Rant & Review of Rough Ryder Small Sowbelly Pocket Knives RR899 RR900 RR959
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2021
- Discussion of Rough Ryder product descriptions and the importance of accurately labeling product. Review of three, small 3.125" sowbelly stockman knives from Rough Ryder. Model # RR899 yellow composition, RR900 amber jigged bone and RR959 Midnight Swirl.
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I'm always happy to see traditional slip joint knives. They are made with pride.
They certainly are.
Thanks for addressing your rant because I share it too. I've always wondered why they didn't call these particular knives "Mini Sowbelly". After all, there are many "mini" canoes and many "mini" copperheads and so forth. I started out collecting the large RR Bow Trapper 4.13", then added the RR Sowbelly Trappers 3.875" to the collection, and then added the RR Sowbelly 3.75" to the collection. So I got very confused when I came across those RR Stockman knives with the Sowbelly shape. And now that I have added Marbles to the collection I have come across the same issue again. I feel better now, how about you?
Yes I do feel better, thanks for the comment. Whats the issue you're having with the Marbles knives specifically?
Your are completely correct. (And we definitely need more RR Small(er) Sowbelly Stockmans.)
Thanks, wegomoe. These are great smaller knives. 👍 .
Beautiful knives!!!Yes!🤗
Thanks for saying so Radek.
I agree. There is nothing silly or overtly pedantic in accurately categorising an object for the purpose of definition and recognition.
That's right. When we rely on search engines to locate products today, it better be pretty straightforward.
I just found the black midnight one for sale 👍 I agree these are small sowbelly’s.
Yes I agree. Thanks for watching and congrats on the knife purchase.
I agree. Those are sowbellies.
Yes, it seems obvious enough.
Just looking at them I would call them small sowbelly stockman knives. I think they made up "Gentleman's Stockman" for the 959 because "small sowbelly stockman" might not have appealed to the masses. Who knows?
Yea hard to say. Naming knives doesn't seem to be SMKWs strong suit.
By the way, that midnight is a head turner.
A very classy Gent's knife. Thanks for having a look at this one, Billy.
Yes, I agree TK, RR needs to call em small sowbellys! When I got the midnight swirl it was advertised as a "Gentleman's Knife", however, I knew by looking @ it.....that it was a SOWBELLY! You are right! Titling these knives Is important when trying to obtain these pieces!
SMKW naming of knives is so willy-nilly it just makes me laugh anymore. I've got my own set names for many of them just to help me remember what has come before. Thanks Tim.
@@ThriftyKaniffy Good way to Do it!
I think of "stockman" as describing a specific blade configuration, and "sowbelly" to be a subcategory that describes a specific shape. So I agree, that a label like "small sowbelly" would be much more appropriate for these knives. But knife names don't always make much sense. Consider all of the different patterns that have "trapper" as part of the name! I even have a high-end Case Peanut with mammoth ivory covers that they called a "trapper nut" because it has a spey blade instead of the usual secondary pen! I didn't know that these small sowbellys existed and I like the size for my style of EDC. Thanks for sharing this video.
Yes, well said. I wanted to bring awareness to these knives, so I guess job done and you are very welcome.
Its NOT a "Bomb Shield".
Look at the shield.
That is a squirrel pelt. Or Flying Squirrel.
Alright, Orlos. If you say so.
The Yellow Comp knives were originally called Old Yellow (as in Old Yeller) They should've called them a "piglet sowbelly" They would've sold better if they would've called it a sowbelly. You have a right to complain. Considering they way they try to call just about everything a Trapper, you think they could have called these sowbellies! Lots of sowbelly collectors out there.
Theses knives came out around 2009-2010 time frame.
Thanks for providing the history. You're right, "Piglet" or even "Porkchop" would have been appropriate. Do you think we will see this smaller pattern again?
@@ThriftyKaniffy , it’s hard to tell it comes down to how well it sold. Most of the time some of their coolest knives disappear because they are too busy pushing someone’s pet design. SMKW love to slap the word “trapper” on a knife and hype the hell out of it and then they ignore a knife like this that, had they did they promoted correctly it would’ve sold like hot cakes.
I never bought these but had I noticed they were small Sowbellies, I’d snatched them up right away!
I was going to buy one of these knives until i seen how unbelievable bad the design is, the two blades that share same spring should have the shallow sides meet so they fit together neetly but they don't. My imperial Congress is made that way and the blade sit together and come out straight from the handle. And I seen many knives where the two blades have shallow sides that meet. The rough rider blades have shallow sides but they are are wrong side so blade is bent/angled to fit, when if done correctly they are straight. The rough Ryder looks like there has been no thought, they look incorrectly made and I will never buy one.
Actually the angled to fit blades "called crinking" was the original method used in multi blade pocket knives such as the congress and the stockman to get all the blades into the blade wells without ending up with a pocket folder that was wider than need be for ease of carry . Since then , you see the more modern version being cheapened as that "crinking" takes more time and sadly the loss of expertise used to achieve packing blades into a thinner knife that enabled something easier on the pocket being replaced with blades that are no longer "crinkled" resulting in a fat knife that no longer exhibits the craftsmanship of days gone by . So that comfort in the pocket suffers as good old craftsmanship goes out the window to a cheap method and lack of what's becoming the lost art of "crinking" .
Pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me .
I agree the cheaper knives don't attempt to make the stockman 3 bladed design as compact as it otherwise could be, but RR does "crink" the blade like the traditional method. Problem is, as Bacon refers to, the blade offset (direction of the thinner side from the tang) are often not aligned for the thinnest configuration so more crinking is required than had they put the offset opposite at each pivot. My guess is that they manufacturer certain blades just one way for all patterns and the stockman is forced to use a secondary blade (sheepsfoot most commonly) designed more ideally for a different pattern. What I don't hear you guys mentioning is manufacturers that use three springs on stockmans with no crinking at all, which in my opinion is more objectionable to an original design (Blue Grass Cutlery does this) that makes for an even heavier and wider carry than a RR. BTW if the RR blade design is a deal breaker for you guys then the Imperial's do that right, but typically use lower hardness steel, and have far fewer handle options, so pick your poison.
Buck started doing that 3 spring stockman quite awhile back . There was American company that did too and I'm failing to recollect at the moment who it was . Even Case makes 3 spring stockman and its a model that was a 2 spring before it became a 3 spring and the model number of it is the same . All you can do is say that the only er ones were 2 spring and the newer ones went to 3 spring . I actually own one of the 3 spring units and was quite disappointed when I recieved it not knowing that Case did this . It's still a nice knife and its not really any wider than the 2 spring version so it is what it is . I can't remember what year that model switched from 2 to 3 springs and its only one out of the four different model Stockmans that they did this with . It's the standard stockman , which is like an eighth of an inch shorter than their large stickmAn . Then there's the medium and small . They are all 2 spring . The old Schrade stuff was the best Stockmans . The Old Timers and Uncle Henrys were great . Schrade had the stockman pattern mastered . I have a bunch of them and none have blade rub and the three blades mesh perfectly . Schrade was perfection in the art of crinking . The new Schrades arnt bad for a Chinese stockman . Probably the best out there . Try are still based on the 2 spring platform but instead of crinking the blades , the grind one side or another so it basically does the same thing as crinking getting all three blades into the space of two . It does leave you with somewhat thinner blades than if they're been crinkled but some say that makes for a better cutter . They're $Cr17Mov which is pretty good stuff really but I'd rather shop around for nice lightly used USA made Schrade stuff . Those were truly the best Stockmans ever made .