The Bain Family Murders
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Sounds comfy is it cold where u live? Sorry just curious
Uk?
@@liliareynero1557 the use of the word “cuppa” might have given it away. The UK is experiencing horrible weather lately! Storms and rain, and cold… I’m so desperate for some sunshine!!
Life is good. 😊
You're got yourself all hooked up to a good night of stories mysteries keep safe
16 years for a massacre of 5 people? That's simply ridiculous. Guilty or not, may well be up for debate, but I believe that someone who murdered 5 people should get no less than a full life tarrif in prison.
If you have read all about this case and listened to the podcast "Black Hands" you would have no doubt that David Bain was indeed guilty. I have read everything there is to read and there are so many details that point to David and very few that point to Robin being the killer. Just a few points off the top of my head: 1. When David got back from his paper round he put all his clothes through the washing machine, before calling emergency services. 2. His paper round was done at least 25 minutes earlier than he normally did it. 3. It would have been impossible for Robin Bain to have shot himself with the rifle that was at the crime scene. 4. David's glasses lenses was found under a bloody item in his brother Stephen's room. Stephen was the only one who seemed to fight his attacker. 5. David had scratches on his hands, likely from his fight with Stephen. 6. Robin had no scratches or blood on him (other than his own). 7. They were able to prove that the time on the computer was digitally altered, something that David was capable of doing. If Robin was the killer and wrote that message, why would he need to alter the time?
So many questions, I have no doubt David was the killer.
That's a lot of compelling facts indeed. I would ask who would do such a thing over an argument about a chainsaw, but people have gone psychotic over less, especially given the torture he had to witness his father being subjected to.
David Bain was indeed guilty. His ridiculous breathing on his phone call was bad enough. Robin Bain was obviously depressed, perhaps headed to dementia. I seriously doubt he knew how to operate a computer. His desk and room at school was very disorderly I did read. It wasn't him who left the note. A girl said one of the Bain girls told her David had been threatening the family with a gun. I don't remember if it's this video but a girl who knew David (at university in the comments section) said he was very angry he couldn't pursue a singing career, opera I think, and his mother wanted the money for a new house build. Sounded legit but who knows. Oops I've landed back on the video I saw ages ago.
@@foo219... he didn't seem to like his father and made the comment his father listened at doors. Remember also David Bain made a point of entering a property with a newspaper delivery so it's reported, and it set the dog barking which hadn't happened before.
He was hoping it was an alibi. It shows it wasn't a spur of the moment break down. It was thought out.
@@foo219 there was much more to it than an argument about a chainsaw. That was just one of many issues the family had.
I listened to black hands and wasn’t convinced he was guilty. Ta-da!
My mother knew Mrs Bain. She was mentally and emotionally disturbed near the end of her life, but a very nice woman. David apparently gave my mother the creeps and she's always doubted his innocence
I've been watching a lot of hoarding docs lately, and I want to point out that not all hoarders are violent, but all hoarders have at least one significant mental illness. Belongings piled to the ceiling, belongings that are hazardous or unusable, rooms in the home that can't be used for their intended purpose, utilities shut off, broken appliances left in disrepair - any one of these things is a red flag and should be taken seriously. Please get psychological help for friends and family members (and neighbors) who hoard! They are suffering in secret!
Hoarding can result from developmental disabilities or other disabilities as well. A lot of people who lose mobility can't manage their house without help but they don't have any help. Same with a lot of ADHDers and autistic people
You can try to get them help, but unless they realize they need and accept it nothing will help. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink."
@@Kat-tr2ig which is the same for all addicts. Unless they want to help themselves you/we are wasting our time.
While it's true to say "if they don't want help you're wasting your time" is true, sometimes people do just need support and nudging.
I know as a hoarder myself, I've gotten so penned in over years of living like this I don't even know where to start.
I think perhaps better idea could be "Get the hoarder in touch with the correct support services ongoing" because it is a intense, difficult, non sensical and emotional issue.
It's complex, and would be very frustrating and draining for anyone thinking clearly.
I think just sending in house clearance people is misunderstanding and underestimating what's needed, that's for sure
Psychological help is good for everyone, including and especially for those caring for (or attempting to care for) others.
I remember listening to that phone call that David made saying "They're dead! They're all dead!" It sounded really fake. I'm absolutely sure he did it.
I've dropped more than half of my true crime subscriptions because of how the stories are told. You tell these stories without much fluff or personal opinions, but also with respect and a gentleness that isn't found on other channels. I appreciate you, and will continue to watch and 👍
Very true.
I’ve been doing the same- so many channels covering these topics can be wildly disrespectful, especially the ones that also cover paranormal/supernatural stuff. Can you recommend some channels you haven’t dropped?
@Mrs Blume I did for a long time, but he's made some r*pe jokes and I just can't with that.
@@digikaa mine are Truly Criminal, Just Though Lounge, Elli Mac, EWU, dreading, This is Monsters, Beyond Evil, and Under the Ash Tree. They're all really respectful, imo.
@A.Girl.Has.No.Name. all these are AMAZING. Only one I watch in addition to these are Danielle Kirsty, Eleanor Neal and That Chapter (although he can be pretty rash sometimes)
You are right. After all these years, as Kiwi's, we still have differing opinions over his guilt and the payout. Why would the father leave a message on the computer saying "sorry, you are the only one who deserved to stay" if in fact David and his father had been at loggerheads for quite a while? We will never truly know I guess. Frustrating.
First-born child always has a special place in parents' hearts. But if they were supposedly arguing/upset over a chainsaw, why would David wipe out his whole family? I'm not saying who I think was responsible for this tragedy, cuz I truly don't know, but Robin seems like he had some serious mental issues... but who can blame him with the way his wife was treating him and his living conditions. Wonder why she was never a suspect, quite frankly, after what she had stated about wanting to shoot him. She sounded like she was going off the deep end, too, with her newfound spirituality.
@@loveforeignaccents I believe David and Robin both had serious mental problems. The family as a whole was so dysfunctional and lived in the most appalling conditions. Someone went off the deep end and the problem was there were a lot to choose from 🤷♀
@@loveforeignaccents inheritance, and he wouldn't be burdened with raising his minor brother, assisting a molested/traumatized or otherwise manipulative/disfunctional sister, etc etc. The timings are extremely off, and I wouldn't expect his father to spare him, let alone bothering to write a message on a computer (those things took forever to turn on and were not exactly reliable / plus added bonus of no handwriting matching possible). Either that or a third party was involved, but without motive, I'm more inclined to see him as guilty than his father.
@@renatopinto3186 Good points.
@@renatopinto3186 David was at least as dysfunctional and manipulative as his sister. Ultimately he chose money over trying to prove his innocence. There was nothing to inherit; the house was falling down and they had very little money. He will not come back here because people would start talking about it all over again and the press would harass him endlessly; glad he is gone even though it has never been resolved.
I'm from New Zealand and this case is still debated. I remember when it happened very well. It was all so strange and there were so many unusual circumstances.
Yes I remember too, and from day 1 I pegged David for the crime and my mind hasn't been changed.
I'm from New Zealand too. Placing the blame on Robin is ridiculous. There's no way he could have shot himself like that from that distance with a rifle. Creepy still, David had an obsession with his sister, the second eldest of the Bain family and wanted to take her out on a date and to the school ball ...it's weird
There was a lot of evidence left out here, including David's timeline of that morning, his computer usage, and other forensic evidence. I don't remember what channel covered the details, but it's definitely not cut and dried.
Matt Orchard - Crime and Society does a great thorough job analyzing this case!
@@user-cp1co5vl7m That's not the channel I watched, so I'm definitely going to check it out. 👍
Anyone interested in learning all the details and evidence on either side of the argument should check out Black Hands by Martin Van Beynen. May be hard to find physical copies outside of NZ but it is on Audible.
@@user-cp1co5vl7m OMG! I just remembered to reply now that I've checked out Matt's channel. I will definitely be watching all of his videos because I love what I've seen so far. I am subscribed to no fewer than 20 true crime channels, but his is unique. While I don't find murder to be funny at all, he has a way of lightening up the seriousness of the subject with a bit of humor, while still remaining respectful. I'm so glad you recommended it. 👍
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What does being a woman narrator have to do with anything? Who cares. The repeated use of the same stock footage is lazy editorial work. My favorite was when she was talking about a white criminal but the footage was that of a black man. Or how 'bout the evil eye stock footage that's used in almost every video... I could go on...
@@zyrrhos If your so critical then why are you even watching the channel and responding to me about stock footage??? I like the channel and so do a whole lot of others . Notice all the positive responses. Along with tons of thumbs up to boot. Go bug someone else with your negativity and if this channel bugs you so much watch something you do like. Don’t bother me again OK!?
@@Laura-zy5jp You should go by Karen and not Laura seeing as the sloppy editorial work of talking about a white criminal but showing a black man doesn't even register to you. I work in film and I'd want to be called out for that kind of poor craftsmanship. You see it as negativity, I see it as necessary criticism to make someone do better. And you're making a comment on a public forum, so you don't get to tell me where and what to post and to whom.
Anyone out there interested in hearing more, the podcast "Black Hands" is an absolute must listen
Thank you for covering this story so well! I’m a New Zealander and have followed this case closely - as many have. There is many very interesting story’s in our short history: Might suggest - The Aramoana Shootings, The Case of Olivia Smart & Ben Hope, The Christchurch Mosque Shootings, The Crewe Murders, Sophie Elliot Murder, Russel Tully shootings, Lisa Blakie Murder, The case of Kirsty Bentley, Cave Creek disaster , Pike River Mine disaster - just to name a few!! Love your channel - keep up the great work !! 🙌🏻
Christchurch Mosque event has been revealed in detail but NZ PM prohibited people from seeing video evidence. Totally rigged.
Cave creek was interesting, my late dad was a builder and when the tv report said only Nails were used to hold the platform to the base we both looked at each other and I said that was Really stupid. Dad was just shaking his head agreeing with me.
@@johnphilipfosterdobson551 That's just negligence, poor workmanship. Leaky homes etc.
As a New Zealander, I say thank you for your objective presentation. I look forward to similar neutrality if and when you present the Olivia Hope - Ben Smart murders / disappearance.
Hear hear
Is this case anyway related to cricketer Ben stokes,
The NZ police really dropped the ball investigating this case.
NZ Police investigate rimes, specifically murders by picking a suspect and making the evidence fit, although this one is still unresolved in many peoples' minds. David was sleeping in his mothers' bed as well as Laniet sleeping out in the caravan with Robin. The whole family was unbelievably dysfunctional, but the Police as usual just stuffed it up and the house burnt down suspiciously just days after the murders when Police were supposed to be guarding it as a crime scene! Karma wrote a book so recouped a lot of the money spent on David's defence.
Not at all. The police got the right man and had all the evidence to prove their case. The retrial was something of a farce notwithstanding the defendant's counsel did a stellar job of putting doubt in the juries mind. RIP Robin
Karam! I don't think karma had much input in this case.,
@@jillspence7227 everything you've stated is categorically incorrect. Stop your bull💩.
They're police so dropping the ball is in the job description...
The youngest boy Stephen was not 17 years old when he died???. He was 14 years, 5 months and 19days. Born in 1980 died in 94.
Good catch. The research on a lot of these true crime channels isn't always the most diligent it seems.
@@foo219 people can make mistakes you know lol you’re not a perfect person either weirdo
You never let us down with your videos they are always so informative and always go into such great detail more so than a lot of other true crime channels that I watch
Great coverage of a complicated case. You are wonderful!
Thank you for your consistently powerful, well researched & compassionately presented videos. You are one of the best true crime channels!
I simply adore your channel. So calming, and so beautifully narrated, with an equally beautiful accent, and with such compassion and respect. The background music is sad, but beautiful and eerily soothing, it goes so well with these tragic stories. Please don't change a thing!!! 💕💕💕
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Im from NZ and remeber this happening when i was 16. For over 30 years Davids guilt or innocence has been fiercely debated. I believe he is guilty, however the problems in that family stemmed 100% from Margaret. She was a sick woman who desperately needed help. Had she been out if the picture a few years prior, this situation never would have happened.
Margaret was the problem? Her husband was raping their daughter. That’s why she was “mentally ill” and calling him “ Belial.”
She could be mad as a hatter....but that doesn't explain daddy banging his daughter out in the truck!
It is so refreshing to hear a Scottish accent narrating 🏴
I thought it was an Irish accent??
As a Scot, a neutral accent,no regional area detectable, nice clear voice!
It's the nicest accent from the British Isles
Love how you leave out your own personal opinions and negative judgements! Great channel! ❤️
Love your vids and generally you get pronounciations right, just couple pointers: Otago is taa not tay, and at one point you said the Australian courts when i think you meant NZ
Otherwise this is a great vid, thanks for your great coverage 💖
I've done some research and the house was burnt down at the request of 2 uncle's and was done with the fire brigade in a controlled burn.
It wasn't burnt by the police.
I thought that was a odd mention as I live in New Zealand and remember it well.
New Zealanders usually have serious murder houses burnt down
I love this channel!!! My only weeeeee little wish is that they were a bit longer. That's just me being selfish, though, because they're so fascinating... yet soothing... because I fall asleep to them.😊👍🤗
100% wish they were longer. that's the only reason this isn't my all-time favorite Channel
Thank you for covering this case, it remains NZ's worst familial homicide. I worked with a former Corrections Officer (Prison Guard) who had been seconded to National Office in Wellington. He was working at Paparua Prison during the period David was incarcerated and found him to be unpleasant and unpopular with other inmates. He concluded by saying he was in no doubt that David was guilty of killing his family.
But he had not one single piece of evidence, did he? Opinions are like assholes mate - everybody's got one.
@@davidjma7226 Of course they do and they're entitled to one but you don't need forensic evidence to form an impression of someone you have daily contact with over a long period. May be more reliable as their guard is down and they're showing their true character.
@@catherineolivia1 can't trust the words of a pig, come on
@@wyatt3239 Aye,let you look after the dregs of society?
I lived in Dunedin at the time and had a friend about David's age who lived in a similar part of town, with a similar family make-up, and worked delivering papers. I quite distinctly remember putting these things together as I walked to school on the morning the news of the Bain killings broke, and standing at a suburban intersection in shock for a good minute or so before being shaken back to the here and now by a tooting horn. It was my friend's mother, waving happily at me from her car. I have seldom been so relieved.
Thanks for doing this case. So sorry for the Bain family. I believe the murderer is still alive.
I love this channel thank u for sharing so interesting 😊
Interesting story...and thank you for bringing back the previous music...
You're doing an outstanding job presenting these cases. But what the police didn't do it seems, is try to figure out who besides David Bain could have performed the killings. They seemed to want to punish David for not having been killed with the rest of the family. Instead of launching all these inquiries to try and get out of compensating David, they should have been more interested in finding the killer.
The police did find the killer and the killer's name was David!!!
@@jimmyavpi... yes and whoever can't see that isn't too bright.
@@annie-kins And what point was that, may I ask?
@@annie-kinswhat point? The comment suggested that David isn’t guilty. The response said their opinion is that David IS guilty. What more is there to get?
@@earnold1896especially if you live in New Zealand and have watched and read Black Hands. David killed his family for Robin but ended up killing her too. David's actions were strange and cold after the murders. So many people brainwashed. The evidence is there. No other DNA but the family which is David's. Noone entering the home except David that morning, no random stranger stalking Arawa Bain, that was David he was in love with his sister.
Your voice and accent are so lovely to listen to!
13:36 "the Police BURNED THE HOUSE DOWN????? What the f?? How does THAT work???
Well done on your pronunciation! New Zealand's Māori language is a tough one. This happened in my country, and it gave me nightmares. Fancy burning the house down with all that evidence within, not one of NZ Polices finest moments.
Yeah police burn stuff down all the time....er, wait a minute...Typical small town provincial police thinking more like it!
It was done at the wider families request (I live in Dunedin)
Thought the thumbnail pic looked familiar... turned out I saw Matt Orchard's video on this about a year ago; luckily -- ? -- my memory isn't so great though, cuz I couldn't remember anything, really, about the case.
Either way, it is a tragedy, whoever did it, for five family members to be wiped out. If David didn't do it, how sad that he lost them all and then was accused, convicted, and had to serve time for it. If he truly was responsible, he pretty much got off scot-free, in my eyes, even though the minimum amount of time he had to serve, he almost did, but that was a slap on the wrist for taking five people's lives.
Anyhow, thanks for the upload and hope you're having a good one!
he was innocent
Dear God looking at the photos he did it!😳His siblings were only beginning to live my heart breaks 💔 for them and if you didn't like your parents. Leave their home and move far away and become the best version of yourself. Instead he chose violence and showed he had psychopathic inclinations. The siblings I feel the most sadness for so young 🌱
Just going to jump in here to say that if anyone has only seen this one video about the case, it's worth looking into it further, including the many circumstances and pieces of evidence that point to David being the murderer. In particular, his saying before the killings that he could use his clockwork paper run to establish/manipulate an alibi. 👀
rubbish he never said that
I just listened to the podcast series on this called black hands. Brilliant. I’m convinced David did it.
@@MissCarolineN well you listened to a podcast & decided he was guilty wow imagine if you had the power of judge & jury based on a podcast 🤦♀️
@@nikkimclay5474lol. Relax and get a life. You’re a little too invested in this. 🤣
Its common in NZ for locals to burn a house down after something very bad happens there. The same thing happened with the other mass killing that happened in Dunedin. Now, that would make a good video. :)
Oh dude we're not yokels
Not only in NZ.
@@larapalma3744 That's your opinion!
Always suspect when someone types out a note instead of putting it in their own handwriting
Was a good narration, ty.
Thank you!
I remember hearing this story before
It's just one of those times where you say to yourself "this family was unhinged." So unbelievably sad. Except the "dad-pedo" RIP Angel's 🕊🌾❤️🩹
Once again DC you told this gut wrenching story with profound insight and straight through without too much commentary. That drives me crazy. A long drawn-out narrator is maddening. I fast forward it sometimes. Watching your channel I'm 🤔😍👍💕💕
I love your channel. You should have millions of subscribers. I recommend your channel a few times
God bless 👑🙏🕊🩵🩵
We don't actually know that Robin hurt the daughter; they all seemed unhinged and you couldn't trust anyone's word; still, it could well have gone much further legally just on her word.
There is no proof of Robin raping the daughter, you are just promoting a bit of gossip with no facts to back it.
I'm confused, you said this was a bx case but said an Australian court dropped the case?
Silly bitch is geographically challenged.
Were Margaret's threats to shoot Robin investigated at all? I'm assuming none of the evidence pointed to her being the perpetrator though, since they put all the focus on David and Robin.
Either way, RIP to the victims, and if David is indeed innocent, I hope he finds peace too.
@ the 5:17 mark it states Stephen was 17 years old when he died? No, if he was born in 1980, he would have been 14 years old at the time of his death on June 20, 1994.
My hometown 😬
Still a very divided case.. many conspiracy theories. Looking forward to your video
Wow! Wild story!
I can only say this is sad, so very very sad. Rest ln Peace poor innocent Children.🌹😔🌹
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Why would she move in with her father if he was abusing her?
Coercion??
Oooh I think this was the channel I said to look into the Bains case when people wanted to know more about NZ crimes after the David Grey story
The police burned the house down 2 weeks after he was arrested? The cops should each put their share of money for the house they destroyed. Even though it was a wreck , there was a real estate value of the home ECT. This is a crazy case. I have heard a few of f these older cases where the evidence is not stored until all appeal have been heard
It was the decision ot the rest of the family to have the house burnt.
And thats a cop's job? Unlikely@@petral6623
A friend of mine testified for the prosecution at both trials (she was a good friend of Laniet) and she *knew* David did it- he was a total creep.
Edited to add: highly recommend 'Black Hands' podcast for anyone with any doubt.
Thanks DC🙏💔🦌
In my opinion this has to be the case of close to the guiltiest man ever being found not guilty, the amount of unquestionable evidence against him it almost borders on ridiculous to think he was found not guilty and is currently a free man.
Even religous people can stray from the way!
Religion makes a lot of people go crazy.
This world is truly evil at times.
I'm a New Zealander and this case still divides us. Robin Bain had the motive, but the physical evidence pointed towards David. I've read Joe Karams books which attempt to refute that evidence, and while not fully convincing, he does offer possible explanations. Because if David zoned out for 20 minutes after discovering the bodies (as he claimed) he may well have walked through blood etc without even knowing. As to his motive, it has been suggested that he had grown to hate the family dynamics and felt trapped. And then there was the inheritance money. Lastly, it's said that David had shown no signs of mental illness before the murders, but some people did find him rather strange. He had written out a fantasy where he raped a woman and got away with it using his paper route as an alibi. Also one of his brother Stephens friends alleged that Stephen had told him that he'd woken the up one night to find David standing over him either pointing a gun or his finger at him (can't remember which) and said "bang bang you're dead" before walking away. If true, then it obviously points to Davids guilt. But somehow I find myself hoping that he isn't...I don't know why.
Thank you for covering this case.
Could you do Aramoana next please?
What about that?
@@araaraste Aramoana was the sight of another mass shooting in NZ. It happened in 1990, 13 people shot and killed. We have our share of tragedies here. Very sad.
Second this request. @Darkcuriosities
Hope everyone is doing well 🤗
Always thought David was guilty. Through the years here in NZ with different articles and re trials. I still do.
Such a blizzard case and so very sad for this family.
It is very easy to slander the dead, who cannot speak for themselves, in order to escape culpability for your own crimes as is what happened here
Why does New Zealand get all the attention? Please consider doing a case from Old Zealand. Thanks.
You didnt mention Robin’s bazaar behaviour at the school 😮. He got kids to write blood thirsty essays and was accused of sexual assault on a child while out of Nz
This case is like the Arthur Thomas case a great possibility of guilt in both cases
Kiwi media is obsessed with this case,even today, continually bringing it up!
Hi Dark Curiosity L❤VE your channel👏👍✌👊❤
Who had gunshot residue on their hands? David or Robin? That would tell you who fired the weapon.
Because someone can't wipe gun residue onto an index finger?? That silencer is like a muffler, chock a block full of carbon residue. Go stick your finger in your car exhaust pipe.
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Why would the Privy Council order the Australian Courts to give a retrial when its a New Zealand case?
Yeah I think she made a mistake there.
I still say the father done it as he had interfered with the daughter. If you read the book. The police put no plastic down and had moved the father's body twice.
Do we know that was true though? She said so but it's a hard thing to prove. Admittedly he may have reacted as it's a hard thing to disprove too, and his job and community standing would have been at stake.
Wow 😮 some police work is unbelievable. Burn down the house and crime scene 2 weeks after the murder? Unbelievable
It was done at the wider families request (I live in Dunedin)
Kiwi here. No one I know even remotely thinks he’s innocent…
Couldn't they test David for any gunpowder residue?
He had washed his hands thoroughly after his paper round saying it was because he had printers ink on his hands. He said he didn't know his family was dead when he returned. He had most likely also taken a shower and put his bloody clothing into the washing machine before he left to deliver the newspapers.
Around 10:00 you say that the Australian courts were told to give David a retrial. This is wrong. It was the New Zealand courts. David Bain was retried in the Christchurch High Court in March 2009.
This happened in my city. Its a very small place, i know several people who knew David alone. My mother grew up in Anderson's Bay
Also Judith Collins was a feral dog 🙅♂️
@@extinctoart yep! lol
For what reason did the cops burn the house down I mean there could have been vital evidence burned with it so it wasn't exactly the smartest thing they could have done
I heard it on another channel about a year ago, and wish I could remember. There was a lot of evidence the wasn't shown here.
cops didnt others did
@@VioletJoy Matt Orchard did a video on the case.
@@MrBombastic302 I saw your other reply to my comment and have it queued up to watch. 👍
Police had removed all the evidence they felt they needed. It was the family who decided to have the house burnt down. It was costing a lot to have security guards who were needed to stop members of the public from entering the property. David agreed that it would be best to have the house burnt down.
The father looks like a crafty old bugger.
Who doesn't love a good murder story.
my parent met david just after he got out of jail, at a bowling alley. lovely man apparently, a bit quiet but that’s to be expected when half the country hates you. we don’t think he did it.
David done it the evidence is so obvious. he's nice to strangers, of course.
I still believe he is innocent. I believe that his father shut the whole family in a plan to blame David for it
Not going to lie, the thumbnail gave me chills. The guy on the very right (who I'm assuming is David) stood out. He looks so stiff, and he has no emotion behind his eyes.
what’s the easiest way to peel a kiwi anyway?
I usually just use a sharp paring knife but i wish there were a tool.
1:02 it says Robin holding Stephen but is that not David? Was a bit confused by the names but figured it out. Anyways what an interesting yet sad case.
Blood is obviously not thicker than water in this case . Horrible story , beautifully narrated and told .
Nothing is like a binge on you tube 😂
Sad. 😢😮
Horrific.
I lived in Taieri Mouth when Robyn worked down the road at Taieri school. I was older and catch th bus into Dunedin for school.
That creep will go crazy in the end. He killed his family and the Police bombed even burning down the house how foolish.
I can’t believe there’s actually any debate about David’s guilt.
Wow so they determined him to be guilty and set him free and paid him close to one million dollars compensation .. 😳
Does anyone else hear wind blowing in the background of the video? It's kind of disturbing me to hear it.
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Admit it: you thought of Resident Evil 7 when seeing that thumbnail.
I'm surprised they could find the bodies in that house.
I am sorry , sir.
You did a great job covering this story. I'm from NZ and I thought you might find the below interesting 🦉
Murder of Harvey and Jeannette Crewe and Scott Guy, a New Zealand farmer, was shot dead at the gate of the family farm in Feilding, Manawatū-Whanganui, in July 2010 at age 31. and
Schlaepfer farm murders, 1992
On 20 May south Auckland farmer Brian Schlaepfer killed his wife during an argument. He went on to kill his three sons, a daughter-in-law and a grandson before committing suicide. His nine-year-old granddaughter Linda was the only one to survive, after hiding in a wardrobe.