Why the Nissan 350Z Still Feels Untouchable 20 Years Later
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- The Nissan 350Z, a timeless sports car icon, has captured hearts and minds for two decades. But what makes it still feel so fresh and exciting today? Join us as we dive deep into the 350Z's enduring appeal. From its raw, naturally aspirated engine to its balanced chassis, we'll explore the elements that continue to set it apart. Is the 350Z truly untouchable, or has time caught up with this legendary sports car?
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After watching the entire video, it felt like you guys had a lot of hostility towards the 370Z. Aside from the 'compliment' we'll call it, given for its interior, the rest of the comments just felt like slander. The reality, not just on paper, is that the 370Z is technically superior to the 350Z - 100%. Even touching on the brakes, the Akebono brakes from the sports model are commonly swapped onto the 350s because they are far superior, especially on track. I get it. The feel is a bit more raw from the 350Z. I've driven enough cars to know this, GTR R34, 350Z and 370Z being the most relevant. But I feel like the difference is really being overstated and if you want a more visceral experience, you can switch to coilovers, strip the interior etc. and have a better handling car in the 370Z. Don't forget that it is a lighter car than the 350Z, and that although the steel subframe may have possibly been cheaper, it is cm for cm, stronger and more resistant to fatigue.
You're 100% correct man, we came out of the gate with WAY too much smoke for the 370z. We really should have been hyping both cars, as it is truly just a fantastic evolution of the platform we own!
We don't script these conversations, so we just got in the car with a general idea of what we wanted to talk about. We wanted to compare the 350z with its contemporary peers, but I think we struggled to come up with any cars that come anywhere near what the Z can do at its price point. So the 370 just started taking strays for no reason 😆 I think the better thing to have done would be to showcase how incredibly both the 350 and the 370 both stack up against cars that sell for double what these cost nowadays.
Love all your points, and thanks so much for watching the whole video! 🙏🙏
It’s a newer model so it will be technically more advanced sure, but it falls short on the looks compared to the 350Z. The 350 has iconic looks, especially when you Google what cars looked like in 2003. I remember first seeing the 350z and it was stunning. When I first saw the 370Z it was meh, ok I guess. That’s the difference between both models.
Drift car, drag car, roll race car, stanced car, TRACK car. You choose how you want to use it but this car is for everyone.
Couldn't say it any better than this 😁
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@@JohnZornAscended Only people this car shouldn’t be for is new drivers under the age of 20 they’re all pretty childish occasionally which ruins the image. But this car slaps, respect it and people will respect you.
@@DemarcusQ I’ve seen plenty of clowns over the age of 20 in a Z. Big wild cam, peaky power curve, and a huge turbo. Big clown type beat..
I've had my 2008 Z for 12 years now. About 175k miles. Never plan on selling it.
12 years! It is so cool how long people seem to be holding onto these cars. It feels like they are being held much longer than average vehicle ownership
I drive an impala ltz. Super comfortable daily. I got ahold of an 03 350z for 1300 bucks last year and last Feb I dumped about 2500 bucks into it. The day I got it running was the last day I drove my impala. It's been the funnest car I've ever owned. Yeah it can be a pain to daily but it's soo worth it. Now if I could stop dropping money on upgrades every week I'm all set. Lol
Freaking love this, that's awesome dude! Steal of a price, and nothing feels better than to get a car that wasn't running back on the road. You have me wanting to drive this one more now 😆 And the mod bug bites so hard, but it feels so good! What do you have next on the list to buy?
@@Automobros next for me is coilovers. 210k miles and the stock ones actually still feel pretty good but the bushings are starting to go. It's gonna be exhaust soon after that.
That'll be a huge upgrade! Yeah this one is still on stock suspension at 137k because it still feels perfectly fine lol. Whenever it starts going downhill we'll probably start looking in the same direction.
And the exhaust will be a game changer! Completely fell in love with the car all over again once we installed the Tanabe
@@Automobros awesome bro. Great video too. Yall were spot on. I may make me a little video once I get to a certain point.
Thank you man 🙏🙏 and please do! Would love to see how far it's come and get updates 😁
I loved my GTR, but it was too much car to have fun on the street and I only ever enjoyed it fully at the track, however a friend of mine had a 350Z manual and honestly that car was 10X MORE FUN to drive around town. More power would actually have ruined that car, because at the power level and handling level, you could ring it out in city roads and have fun all the time. Today I am feeling nostalgic for that simple driving pleasure, would love to have a manual Z-car as a wrench monkey car for weekend fun 🙂
I couldn't agree more, and your opinion holds so much weight coming from GTR ownership!! The GTR is an absolute beast, but it definitely demands a different environment to truly shine. There's something undeniably pure about the 350z, it's like a perfect blend of power and handling for everyday fun.
You nailed it with the "more power would have ruined it" - it's that sweet spot of performance that makes it so special. And the manual transfers every ounce of that fun directly into your body! The older I get, the more I realize it's not about the power number, it's the entire driving experience that makes a car special.
I've been daily driving my 05 350 since I got it in Aug 2014. 206087 later I still look back to admire her before I go in to work. G37 coupe for the weekend.
That's when you know it's true love 🥰 and still cruising at 206k! That's awesome!
I have 07 hr road
roadster 6 speed 100%stock with 96k.
Own this car 10 years. Got the roadster because of the boxer look. Love this car with all my heart
Yeah it really does have that look! Perfect spec, and under 100k! It's still a baby! 😁 These cars just bring so much joy, they're truly special machines
Cool! That's awesome! I have an 03 with 41K Km. Mine too all stock...even the brakes and tires. It is one of the first of 350 sold in North America. 350z's still look modern and personally I think it has aged well. Cheers from Canada
I love the 350z. I've owned 5 Z cars, including 2 350s. One was an HR (07), both were manuals. That said, the 370 really is a better sports car. It's like a leaner and meaner 350z. BTW- A 350z coupe doesn't weigh 3600 lbs. The heaviest 350z coupe was 3400lbs. The base DE coupe weighed under 3200.
My current Z is a 2024 Performance manual. I love this car so much. It's like they combined all the generations of Z into one. It's a greatest hits car. I recently took mine on a 3000 mile road trip across the southwestern US. I averaged almost exactly 30 MPG (manually calculated at fill-ups).
I mean I don't think a comment could hold more weight than this one, you've owned and driven them all, including the newest version!
Thanks so much for sharing this, and officially convincing me that we need to go drive the 370 and "400" and push back against our bias a little bit! 😆
Love my Z HR 2007 keep your throttle body clean you will feel the power I was amazed after I cleaned mine. Never gets old to drive.
Oh snap I know what we're doing next!
Bought one and loved it but had to sell it down the road. Missed it so bought another and been happy as Larry with it the last 5 years. What a motor! Lifes to short to not own one :)
There are very few cars you miss so much that you have to buy one again. It happened to me with a Miata and I believe Justin with a 240sx. We're both 1000% convinced we would never get over selling this Z 😆
Couldn't say it any better than you, life is too short not to own one of these! 😁
This is the first video I’ve seen from this channel. I love the channel already.
Thanks so much man! 🙏🙏
I have had one for 13 years and still love it. They are right, if you got one hang on to it.
It feels like they are a dime a dozen right now, but a Z gets introduced to a wall every weekend..
the driving shots were so peaceful, loved this one! excited to see more of the 350z
Thank you! 🙏🙏 We are too 🥰
I daily drive a 350Z convertible and I haven't missed a backseat in 3 years
@@zheiress9367 if it's the car in your profile picture, that is a handsome vehicle! Love the 6 spoke Rays wheels 🤩
I've had my 2004 350Z roadster for 20 years. I can't sell it. I can't trade it. It has 134,000 miles and still drives so well. I've stayed on top of maintenance and kept it bone factory configuration...except the rims. Black on black with chrome wheels, that's it. Never changed a thing. The thing which always appealed to me was/is the gorgeous lines of the roadster, compared to the coupe. That's always been my preference. Enjoy yours as much as you want, for as long as you want.
Wow an original owner!!! This story says it all; these cars are just so special in their own way. They are just pure driving machines! The plan is to do exactly what you have done, just take care of this one and hold onto it for as long as humanly possible 🥰 Thanks so much for sharing!
I love the 350z it's the goat n/a sports car for me. When I 1st drove the nismo 350z it was amazing fell in love. I still prefer the 350z over the the 370z and the new z!
There's just something about them man! We tried to capture that essence in the video but it's so hard to do this car proper justice. And can't even fathom the NISMO spec 🤩 has to just be on a whole different level
@Automobros the nismo z is different it's wants more revs! It has more power and torque that nismo tune is what a stock z should have been from the beginning. I loved every gear change it was perfection!
Great video. I haven't driven a 350, but I do remember the lasting impression that it left when I saw my first one in person at a fuel station in 2003/2004. Its influence was recalled when I purchased a 2010 Z Roadster Sport in 2018. I made very few upgrades the first few years of ownership until I dumped some money into upgrading the suspension in 2022. Used occasionally as a daily, the ride is a little rough in these East Tennessee hills, but a dose of twisties always numbs that drawback. I prefer the 'vert over the coupe personally, but that's because of the flexibility of the roof. I will add that the car has the optional 7AT (which undoubtedly will upset the purist). It's not a bad transmission, but I wish that the GTR's DCT was in its place.
I DD a 2003 Track. Exterior is unmolested with the exception of 1" wheel spacers on the Rays wheels to get a flush look.
I think it's perfectly livable for DD with the aftermarket clutch pedal upgrade (adding a single mass OEM-weight flywheel really helps too). Continental Extreme Contact DWS plus (HP 4 season tires) add comfort, maintain reasonable street legal'ish grip, and expand the season scope. I NEED a fun car to go do a mundane short grocery run, this has been a life-saver for me!
Performance-wise mine has Intake, plenum, Nismo exhaust - like yours mine sounds soooo good!
Compared to the 370Z, the 350Z PROS are lighter curb weight, and has a prettier lower hood line. Longer wheelbase gives a slightly better ride, interior feels a bit more spacious.
Worse part of the car is the obnoxious rear strut tower bar that kills so much practicality of the rear hatch. 😕
As long as people understand this is a cheap, reliable, reasonably fast & fun GT car they will never be mislead.
The 6 spoke Rays are *chefs kiss* and getting them flush with the fenders is exactly what I would do as well!
We also had the DWS06 on the car when it was full-time DD. Absolutely excellent tires and truly gave year round fun/confidence. The clutch upgrade might be the secret DD sauce ingredient, the OEM clutch feel is what I think drains your energy the most in rush hour traffic! Maybe that is the move when it is time for a new clutch..
Completely agree with all of your comparisons to the 370Z, and on the rear strut bar! They could not have made it any more intrusive 😂
And couldn't say it any better, if you understand exactly what this car is, it is truly hard to beat! Thanks so much for your thoughts and for giving our video a shot 🙏🙏
Found an 08 convertible with 26k just a couple months ago and couldn't help myself. Loving it so far!
What a find!! Welcome to the club 😁
Well done! Love the videos - Keep up the great work guys!
Thank you!!! Lots planned 🙏🙏
a 350z isn't perfect until it has underglow and the NFSU2 soundtrack blasting over the speakers
Ugh you're 100% correct.. Time to become a rider on the storm 😂
That door closed to driving transition👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Thanks man!!! That's my favorite part in the video 😁
It's a fun car! It's just cheaply made and woefully underpowered. The best part about that car is the chassis. It's very old but still relevant in a budget market. It needs a transmission that likes to be shifted and about 100 more hp. You'd think the new Z, but the transmission is pretty much the same.
I got my '04 350Z last year as my first manual car for the weekends, and I feel so validated watching this video! Especially when I think about what car is next or how there are so many other cars out there I want to experience. Now I'm itching to go back to driving on fun roads with it. Its been sitting for a couple weeks but every single time I go I have a blast. Its completely stock so I dunno if I wanna do modifications or keep it stock. Definitely dont see many stock ones these days lol love the video had me smiling the whole time thinking about the drive
Love this so much man, so pumped you took the manual leap! It's the best way to get the most out of cars like this for sure. We're so excited the video found and resonated with you!! And I'm the exact same way, I won't drive it for a little bit and I forget how much fun hopping in and finding a few good turns feels 😁
And that's such a crossroads to be at, now stock is the rare form for these cars to be in! But that mod bite itches for sure 😆 if you have any place to store the stock parts, intake and exhaust make such a huge difference to the experience and are super easy to remove and go back to stock!
Thanks so much for watching 🙏🙏 and let us know if you end up buying any parts! Reading this has me hyped up to go drive now 😂
Picked up a 370z Bout 2 months ago couldn't be happier, no regerts
Welcome to the club man!! I'm sure you had an incredible summer 😁
248k miles on my 04 Track. Completely stock and runs like new. Just change your oil under 5k miles!
100% this! Bulletproof if you take care of it
I might have to get one as my side toy. If not a 3rd Genesis coupe , 2nd mustang but a v8 this time , Camaro , gto or something . Always loved the stock 350z exhaust note. And Iove how they look stock. Although like the 370 looks better but I still love the 350. The 350 got me into the Z’s. I’m already team VQ with my g37x sedan. That’s a nice Z you got in the vid OP.
Thanks so much man!! Truly love this car. Man sounds like the Genesis coupe is a favorite if it's still calling your name 😆 but you're guaranteed to have fun with anything on your list for sure!
I really like the look of the 350z and 370z. About 10 years ago I was torn between a 350z and a 2013 Genesis coupe 3.8 (bk2). I went with the Genesis coupe mainly because I preferred it's styling. I'm at 143k on it, I keep up the maintenance, and lightly modded it (headers, intake, exhaust), which brings me to the disappointing comparison between the Genesis coupe and 350z. The 350z has so much more aftermarket support and it's not even close!
Man I loved the Genesis Coupe so much when they came out! I was in school and couldn't afford one, but it was at the top of my list. The styling was on point, and it was totally different from what everyone else was into, which was the coolest thing to me. You definitely hit the nail on the head though, taking the road less traveled means you get left in the dust in terms of the aftermarket lol. When I had my Nissan Xterra I could barely do anything to it, and my friends with Toyotas could practically rebuild their entire truck 😂
So cool that you've had yours so long and kept it maintained! You keeping if for the foreseeable future?
@Automobros Thanks . I always stay on top of my maintenance. Figure better safe than sorry. I had it walnut blasted at 100k, to clean the carbon out, and it wasn't as bad as I was anticipating. I added a 23 Elantra N last year and love it, but I must be a glutten for punishment because it doesn't have the most aftermarket support either. Lol
@Automobros And just saw the question about keeping it. Yes. Since adding the Elantra N I usually only drive the Genesis maybe once a week, just to drive it. I'd like to build the motor and add forced induction, but it's a bit pricey. Maybe eventually. I have the carbon fiber hood, wing, and other little cosmetics to make it look good. Borla exhaust , which makes it have a low growl, which I prefer over the raspy Ark exhaust sound.
@@godzilla7391 Haha sounds like it made you a proper Hyundai fan! Dude I was listening to a podcast last night and they were talking about how good the Elantra N is. I think the N brand is getting enough of a following to hopefully bring a proper aftermarket to them. Reasonably priced, and they just sound SO insane 🤩
@@godzilla7391 and love to hear that you're keeping the Genesis too! It sounds like it's done up properly, and since you're taking such good care of it, it'll be ready for it when it's time to go wild on the motor 😁
Ohh man I love your car. This is exactly the kind of Z I want to purchase by the end of the year.
Thanks man! Appreciate it and wishing you luck picking one up this year 🙏 please let us know what you end up getting!
The skyline G35 was the platform for all including the GTR.
My 350z, had windows motors,rear bonnet struts, a hand made cabin filter as does not come with one from factory, radiator motors, new clutch pedal with the return spring as the oem does not have one so clutch slave cylinder seals will go, treatment for rust as shown signs on the wheel archs.
Doors handles will break if not careful.
Change your PVC valve.
Thank you for your video😊.
Thank you for watching and for all the info! 🙏🙏
Yet everyone hating tue lack of updates.
It was meant for YOU to update.
Amen brother
Since you are keeping it... use pinch weld protectors on your tower jack stands.
Thanks for the tip! 🙏
Nissan is real daddy!
💯! 😆
Why do people care so much about the sound I don't get it 😂
Me neither man.. I think it's just the easiest thing to hate/joke about. If you straight pipe the VQ it sounds pretty bad, but with a decent exhaust I think it's one of the best sounding engines out there!
350Z is cool but value and performance crown goes to the Corvette. Not sure why anyone would go for one of these at this point as the prices have skyrocketed and they are all clapped out.
It's very hard to argue with that, now we have to go find a Vette and compare! The prices are definitely going up on Zs, and the performance to value ratio is rapidly changing
Not the same price range. 350Z = C4, 370Z = C5 in terms of used prices. My HR roadster craps on any non-ZR1 C4 you'll roll up to that starting line, drag & circuit. Gearing & suspension are both levels beyond the C4's capability.
@@jacquesc3166 Fair
My 08 is my daily. Why drive boring cars? 350z dry, rain or snow.
This is 💯 the correct answer. I need to stop being a old baby and drive this car more! 😆
@@Automobros definitely just be prepared to change rear tires every 6 months and you'll be all set.
😂😂 thanks for the tip!
I daily my 08 as well and I love it! Need tires asap tho
As an owner of a 350z Track Edition I purchased new in 2003, I agree with much of your comments. Well before you published this, I already described my Z as analog. There's no "digital" to it. Yes, it is so raw. You hear and feel everything, road, wind, and mechanical. It's immersive. One friend of mine called it a mini Viper. Sans plenum-spacer and stereo, mine's bone stock and I have no intention of letting it go. But the intake (one for me) and exhaust makes me ponder.
With a duck-feet stance, I'm very interested in that Nismo pedal.
Total immersion is the best way to put it! Very well said.
The intake and exhaust were added purely to enhance everything you mentioned. We installed those not expecting a single HP gain, only to add more driver feedback. it makes it feel like the car is talking more directly to you!
And the Nismo pedal was the smallest touch that made the biggest difference. I thought it would make a marginal difference, but it makes you feel like a rev-match hero. For the price it's a must buy!
@@Automobros Yer gonna make me spend money, I can feel it. ;)
@primaltone hahahaha let us know if you do! 😆
Great bang for the buck.
Truly hard to beat!!
08:30 - 300hp is "enough" for public roads - because - if you're going around corners/mt roads where the Z is at home = it's enough to out drive many more powerful vehicles. It's way more fun to hit a fun set of technical corners > straightline stuff
Roar pedal will fix the throttle situation for you and it's only 150 bucks I have it it's amazing
Oh thanks for the heads up! I'll check it out 😁
I gotta look into this!
Exactly. It's totally fine as it is. Relatively stock is key, just maintain and enjoy 😊
This doesn't get said enough!
@@Automobros 240s which fetch big bucks are all stock not messed with cars. Do you guys follow Collector Car Feed, well worth a subscription. Love your channel boys
@fossilfish786 CCF is my FAVORITE car channel on TH-cam! Those guys are so freaking funny 🤣 Collabing with them is a dream channel goal for me!
@@Automobros It will happen. You guys have that vibe.
Thanks broski 🥰
I remember buying my Z like it was yesterday. Black no compressor (no AC) and window motor blown in summer.
200 000km
and on the 5 hour drive back did 240km/h and still accelerating.
So much fun and so many powerslides, a few drifts.
The only con I'd say is the weight and trunk space.
That's definitely a day to remember 😁 how long have you had yours?
And yeah weight is probably #1 for me
@@Automobros I had to leave the country at the time so sold it after 6 months
I wouldn't mind getting back in a black HR
and what you said is so true ... upgrading is headache all I can think of is E46 m3 which is a money pit or all the way to an m340i
@mohammedalaskary342 oh I gotcha! So kinda the "one that got away" lol. And the HR is just so good! I hope you get into one.
Man you are preaching to the choir about the BMWs too. I think you'll really feel our next video 🤫😆
@@Automobros sick bro! I just hit the subscribe button
can see this channel doing big things
The focus on affordable analog cars in this economy with the nostalgia will be killer.
You probably played need for speed underground. So far every car I've owned is from that game :D
Thanks so much man! Means the world to us 🙏🙏
And that's exactly what we want to do! Just show that you can have a ton of fun on a budget, and that newer isn't always the best 😁
Hahaha I was OBSESSED with NFSU/NFSU2!!! Still some of my all time favorite games! And I do the exact same thing! It's one of my first considerations when buying a car: can I drive it in a game? 😆
Just FYI, you said, "the NVH is pretty much non-existent." I get what you meant, but I think you were referring to sound deadening. NVH stand for Noise, Vibration, Harshness, so this car actually has a lot of NHV. Great video, I'm thinking the next drift car to replace the E36 will almost definitely be a 350Z. It hits so many of the checks for a competent drift car right out of the box with just a diff and some angle.
Thanks for that catch! We definitely get excited when we're doing the driving vids and can get our words twisted up a bit 😂
And I have to agree with you on your choice. From everything I've seen and read, the 350Z has made a name as one of the most drift ready vehicles straight from the factory! The power is already there, making reliability a huge plus. Just diff and angle kit like you said!
How do you like the e36 as a drift car?
Hello brother, amazing video! Are you happy with those Z1 rims? I have a set of those, too, hopefully installing it soon! Are you running spacers? I'm planning to add 15 mm in the front and 20 mm in the rear! My rear rims R19 1.5 +30 😂
Thanks so much man! Yes, I love these wheels so much! One of my favorite purchases for the car, especially combined with these tires! And not running spacers, thought I might but the fitment was perfect right out of the box 😁 ours are R18s, 9.5 +15 in front and 10.5 +25 in the rear
@@Automobros NICE....I personally would get the 18" wheels as well
What kind of front lip does it have? Want it for my Z.
Hell yeah man! Just search " 350z MZ lip" 😁 I can find the direct link to the one I purchased if you'd like, but they should all be relatively the same
I love the 350Z, but the 370Z is better in every single way. 370Z looks way better as well, but I’m biased because I own one. Only upper hand the 350Z has is its cheaper to build and there’s more aftermarket support
@@ahhhue3830 hahaha it's hard not to be biased with these things!
I think the 370 looks like a dick lol. The only thing I'd want from that car is headlights and tail lights on my 350
I want to buy a 350z but its my first car idk about it i can afford the automatic bit not the manual, manuals are expensive in lebanon everyone likes them
If I can offer my opinion, get whatever manual sporty car you can for your first car! Manuals are so much more fun and engaging, and you'll learn a ton about driving and car control.
Then later, when you can afford to get the manual Z that you want, you'll also be more prepared to drive it properly!
(P.S. it is SO cool that our video found you in Lebanon!! 🤯 Thanks so much for watching!)
Sound the 🎺
Facts 😂
Your Z is an HR model so it doesn’t have a CD009. It has a JK41A
Oh yes appreciate this correction!! We had a CD009 in the garage for a year to swap into a different project, so I had that on the mind as we were talking. Definitely misspoke and glad you called it out! 🙏🙏
Was JUST going to say this....But i needed to look for this comment first so I didnt end up being the 2nd one to post it haha
2012 G37 convertible Sapphire Blue! Same car but a definite upgrade. Rolls out and gets looks every MF day. Thx for sharing. Free Agent From Washington DC
The best color by a country mile! Thanks for checking us out 🙏🙏
What about the gallery gaskets issues that will be a problem. Love the car and am looking for one but I see a $3,500.00 repair bill in my future....
A very good call-out! Ours has been so good to us, I haven't thought about those gaskets enough...
It's all kind of the luck of the draw, our HR is at almost 140k and hasn't given any hints of gasket failure yet. You might have years of worry-free driving before it needs to be addressed.
If we do have to do the repair, we'll make sure to film it to showcase the steps/difficulty, and maybe save some people a bunch of money!
Get a '13+ vq37 and that isn't a issue. I was happy to hear about that after I purchased my g37s after missing out on a 350z.
I was quoted $950 for this job. Parts and labor included.
@@peterflores8079 Hi Peter. What state do you live in and what type of shop quoted this price?
@@robgreenstein5917 Yeah I need to know as well lol I am in NY....was quoted $1500
Boosting these cars is a whole different story
Can't even imagine
@Automobros did the supercharger route, was fun, now im getting my DE tuned with a turbo! Excited
@allanhmann5392 that's awesome!!! You can't beat those turbo noises 😁 What did you think of the added SC power? Always been curious but could never bring myself to pull the trigger 😅
@Automobros 1000% recommend if you want reliable added power, and the car drives very much like the stock power band. I believe the car should have come with that power.
Oh no that was the last thing my wallet needed to hear 😆
THE Z IS KING
Bro your Z is CLEAN!! Subbed
@@Automobros that's cool of you.🤙🏿 There's a lot of how tos and build progress. And shenanigans . Enjoy the channel
This was a good video, but i think one major oversight was not mentioning the engine issues. This video made the 350Z seem like a car with no issues. The engine issues are a pretty substantial.
Also, doesnt the 350Z have McPherson struts upfront, not double wishbone?
This is a very fair criticism, and we appreciate the feedback! We have a 07 HR with 140k problem-free miles, but that definitely does not mean that all of these cars do.. Looking back, we absolutely displayed some survivorship bias, and should have pointed out (at the very least) the common issues that these cars face. Probably worth a follow-up video to address this! And thank you for the post, we're really trying to foster a community who will continue the conversation down here in the comments and paint the most complete picture we can! 🙏🙏
For the suspension, technically it is a Double Pivot Front Suspension? It has a upper and lower "wishbones" but that doesn't quite tell the whole story:
auto.howstuffworks.com/nissan-350z-design2.htm
@Automobros No problem. I can tell you guys want to spread good information.
Im not too surprised you've had a good experience. 07-08 350Zs got a fairly significant updated VQ engine compared to the '03-'06s. '03-'06s had major issues with burning oil, so much so that they had a TSB advising owners to bring their cars in to have them checked out.
'07-'08 HR engines are the preferred years to buy. The older ones will have severe engine issues. I believe there is even another common catastrophic design flaw that takes out the engines. Possibly timing chain guides. I'm not positive. I used to know a lot more about 350Zs when they were newer. My friend had a new '08 back then.
The suspension is Multi-Link, front and rear.
Actually, there are three different kinds of engines in these cars: DE, DE "Rev-Up", and HR. The DE is the most solid, imho. It is a bit more "pedestrian", being in Maxima's, Altima's, Pathfinders, etc. However that gives it its strength: Nissan spent alot of time and money, developing that engine. It was in fact tuned to be more sporty, for G35's and 350's. It is the torque-iest VQ, most robust, and that generation sounds the best. These can burn some oil, due to the cheap piston rings that Nissan used. However they do not burn like a "Rev-Up". The DE is a good overall engine. I've seen them with 300k+. In fact, all three of these engines are good. Check your oil levels, especially with the DE's, keep them full, that will solve most problems.
The HR was developed within a couple years. Japanese reviewers had complained that the original VQ was not "sporty" enough. (Didn't rev high enough, apparently). Hence Nissan seemed to release the HR quickly, before ironing out all of the problems. The HR's could have a catastrophic failure: Oil Gallery Gaskets. Due to Nissan, (more likely Renault), cheaping out, and using a paper gasket for the oil gallery, instead of a metal one. Nissan changed this paper gasket to metal, in the 2013+ VQ37VHR. Solving the issue. Some 07-12 Z's and G's were affected, but not all.
The HR is a more race-bred engine, with some impressive techniques used from motorsport, (like the "Ladder Frame", asymmetric piston skirts, etc). The HR had increased compression ratio, more horsepower (but less torque), smoother, higher-revving, better mpg's, etc. A healthy HR is a beautiful thing, no doubt.
This is FANTASTIC information to have here. Thanks so much!
@@JeremyDavis-jp4ep very well said
Neeeesonnn
Love it
Thank you! 🙏🙏
Great cars, I love my v35 coupe! I believe Nissan went with the steel subframes to beef up the rigidity on the chassis.
That's good to know!! I'll put that up there with "making the weight distribution 53:47 so that it's perfect 50:50 under acceleration" 😆 they were in the lab with these cars!
@@Automobros can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not. I’m just going off an article by Mike Kojima going over the suspension changes between the z33 and z34. It was a small weight penalty that the car paid for, less than 10lbs if I remember correctly but the steel subframe kept production cost down, helped with higher corner exit speeds, and helped with torque load amongst other issues they were addressing. I’ll see if I can find it and link it here. As greatly improved the 370z/G37 is, I’d still prefer the older chassis out of pure nostalgia.
My bad! I said so sincerely, it just reminded me of that weight distribution reasoning they gave, an answer that actually makes decent sense to a "why the heck would you do it that way?" question.
I really appreciate the deeper explanation too! That context makes the decision make much more sense, and is honestly a much better reason for the change than my blanket "everyone just started cheaping out after the recession" statement. Thanks man 🙏🙏
I really need to get behind the wheel of a 370z and cure some of my bias lol. It doesn't feel like it in my head, but they made the 370z 2x as long as they did the 350z! I'm sure their ultimate vision for the chassis is best shown in one of those later model years...
Forgot to mention, do not use polyurethane bushes just keep OEM.
💯this! You do not need racecar parts if it is not a racecar 😅
Why not? I just had lower control arms installed on my Z with poly bushings. 😊
@@marioaguilar8259 hahaha well maybe you can give some perspective in favor of poly! The thought is that on daily drivers, you add a bunch of harshness to your regular driving (90%), but don't really see the benefits unless you're absolutely hooning (10%), so on the whole it detracts from your overall experience. But these are Internet opinions, you actually have it done! What do you think of the mod so far? Does it feel dramatically stiffer?
What’s the front lip?
www.drivenbystyle.com/2006-2008-nissan-350z-z33-duraflex-mz-front-lip-spoiler-1-piece-43463.html
G35 coupe baby
The fancy boy! Such a good car
Feels untouchable because you dont own an LS or 2J swap
Didn't even mention how insane these cars can get if you go in an engine swap direction!! Great callout
Looks good, good handling, extremely under powered
Its an NA with a 5.5 second 0-60! The VQ puts in work for what it is
@@Automobros it's slow as balls. You have trucks from the 90s that were faster.
@@Jez-p9kIt’s not that it’s not capable of being quick or fast. Most guys that own these have zero idea how to make it move. The other ones throw money at creating a huge peaky top end..insanely slow from a dig.
@@JohnZornAscended anything can be made to be quick it just takes money. In this case forced induction is the best way. Unfortunately the "kit" mentality which is what most go with is expensive.
@@Jez-p9k Wrong, prime example.
Ehhh e46 is a better car. No trumpets.
Hahaha I do love the e46, but mine tries desperately to prove you wrong in our last video 😂
Also 350Z’s don’t get anywhere near 30mpg lmao
😆 Im aware it's the Internet so idk what to tell you, but both of us have calculated 26-29 average mpgs on 400+ mile trips. Maybe not quite 30, but just trying to make the point the car is an absolute unit in 6th gear on the interstate.. Maybe we just had "perfect conditions"? YMMV I guess 😅
@@Automobros I have a Nismo 2008 I use for commuting about 70 miles highway to and from work every day, car is on stick tune, has test pipes and exhaust otherwise all stock, I get about 260 miles per tank. I have no check engine lights, no codes, fresh spark plugs, only 80k miles. I’m curious how you’re pulling more fuel economy than my 2009 Honda fit out of a 350Z
First of all, sick car brother, congratulations! 🥵
We also are on the stock tune, and then just Nismo intakes and a cat back, but the car will easily go 400 miles on a tank, which I believe is in line with EPA estimates?
www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=24761
260 per tank seems REALLY low, unless you're absolutely hooning it everywhere. Maybe you're running super rich with the test pipes and they are just doing a good job hiding that from your ECU? I might look into getting it tuned.
I don't know if there are differences between the base car engine and the Nismo version though
@@Automobros one other odd thing about my Nismo is the most gas I’ve ever seen it take is about 16 gallons I’m aware it’s supposed to be a 20 gallon tank but both my digital DTE gauge and my fuel gauge are both showing empty like buried empty at 260ish miles and the car only takes 16 gallons lol
That sounds like the floater in your tank isn't accurate, which seems to be somewhat common with these cars. You should definitely have 4 more gallons in the tank. But of course it'd be pretty sketch trying to use those gallons with all your instruments yelling that the tank is empty
The 370z might have taken a few strays in this one.. 😆 Just want it known that we LOVE that car as well! Let us know if you're driving one
I bought a ‘03 Nissan 350z Touring. It had 33,000 miles in 2024! With almost 300 hp and 285 lb-ft torque this car FLIES!
What a find!! Congrats man!! And couldn't agree more, these things rip right out of the box!
2007 stock 350 love mine 70,000 run like new. I keeping it stock they are going to be worth money later down the road look at the price on the 300zx they going for 20,000 crazy.
Yes an HR with baby miles on it!! That's definitely going to be worth real money down the line. And yeah you have the exact right idea, people treated the 300zx like it was worthless for the longest time
untouchable is a little much
how can it be the last analog sports coupe when the 370z is just as analog
the 350z is the ugliest Z car ever produced. (everything wrong with it was fixed in the 370z)
it's a great cheap car for building a dedicated drift/track car out of
but aside from that it's not worth owning
it's a car for the broke boys (nothing wrong with that)
that have a little more money than the g35 buyers lol
12 years ago, people were saying these exact same things about the 240sx...
We really shouldn't have called out the 370z 😆 in so many ways it's the same car, just improved! It's really the whole platform/chassis that seems untouchable in it's price range. I just don't think anything does what quite what this family of vehicles does.
Beauty is in the eye for sure, but the cleaner lines of the 350z are easier on said eyes and will age like wine 😁 I really think you aren't giving this car enough credit!
But yes we are broke boys, so can't argue with you there 😂 thanks for sharing your thoughts! 🙏
What does Broke Boys mean exactly? I've been driving Z33s since 2013, make 140K CAD/yr with 22+ years in the RCAF. My 1st DE coupe was FBO, this 07 HR GT roadster is 1 of 35 and stays stock. I'm 39. Broke Boys?? What???? 😅🤣😅🤣
370z is better
Tell us why! The VQ37HR is dope, but that's the only thing I can think of off the top of my head. And maybe interior?
Wrong
Handling and engine, shorter and wider, 350z undeniably has a bigger following tho, 370 didn't change much (other than inventing rev match,) love my 370 though, it's really a preference thing
@@Wolffhardtt great points! I didn't really think about it being shorter, that's gotta sharpen the handling a fair amount.
Yeah I wish we compared the 350z more to other cars instead of honing in on the 370z, but I think we did because there just aren't many other cars like these! Both cars are absolutely incredible, the styling differences let you get a car closer to your preferences 😁
and I think if the prices came down a little more, the 370 would get a much larger community behind it! It's just so easy to get a 350 cheap nowadays. Thanks for your answer! 🙏🙏
corniest shit i have ever watched on this app. can’t believe i actually made it through the intro lmfao
Hey man we're just glad you made it through the intro 😆 thanks for giving us a shot!
Huh
what kind of comment is this? like many who WANT to do what it takes to make/edit vids for a YT channel, these guys DID. They put in the work and make this content and I am sure they will continue to prosper with their channel & endeavors 👍
350 z is not fast lol. Maybe if you ar a high school kid or something, but they are not even close to fast. My stock honda can smoke any z on the road. Honda is the king of fast cars, Nissan is slow and junk.
This is the truest comment 😆
Gotta know how to drive a Z to get the most out of it. It loves to be wrung out.
@4renzicfiles92 💯 the 2nd half of the tachometer is a whole different car!
I guarantee that Honda can't out do my Z Honda is for women lol
just say ur broke
My 350Z is a G35 sedan with a six speed manual 🤷♂️
Ooooh you got the tuxedo version! 😁