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yea that car had a tractor transfer case so forward and reverse are on a seperate stick from the gears , you can switch between drive and reverse and have 4 gears in each
@@grahamfrickers3446 Because when Volvo bought out the dutch car manufacturer DAF in the 70's they kept producing DAF's 2 remaining models as the Volvo 66 and the Volvo 340, but they were just re-badged DAFs with DAF's signature CVT that could go as fast in reverse as they could forward.
Not only is Dom doing a wheelie AND a burnout at the same time (props to you guys as I've never noticed that before), but he's also expertly controlling all of this without hitting his car on the ground or flipping over despite the absence of wheelie bars.
The reason they did that was because they had a hydraulic bar that would lift the front end of the charger so it could do a wheelie. They added smoke so viewers couldn't see the bar that lifted the front. If was nothing more than movie magic so the scene was more interesting
@@BernieMP YOU MISSED EVERYTHING MY MAN No one could say a story about just a car company winning race while crying in happiness...only James can do it
I'm guessing box office numbers had something to do with it. also street racing is kind of 90's/early 2000's. these zoomers with their electric cars don't really get it.
I remember being at the drag strip around the time of the first movie. A mustang had a nitrous backfire that blew his headlight out. Some dude yelled "NOS" and cleared the stands hahaha
@@NoobZword 7 and later? There's been a lot of people that critiqued the scene in Fast Five where they rip the vault out of the bank and drive it around town. A lot of stuff in Fast Five and Fast & Furious 6 wouldn't work as portrayed or even at all.
the thing about the tractor transmission shifting gears in reverse is true. Many tractors and other heavy equipment have a seperate shifter for engaging forward and reverse which means that you can normally shift into all the gears while going in reverse
as an I.T. engineer, i remember thinking................ NOT A FUCKING CHANCE LOL and after the movie i had friends asking me and i was like ...... "Mate.. no fucking chance in the world" and then they were like "yeah, but what if...." and i was like "NO!!!! NOT A FUCKING CHANCE" i said the same thing when they thought you could charge your cell phone using the energy from your body and holding a few coins separated by some paper (to supposedly create a capacitor) well... the flaw in that plan is..... to charge your phone, Assuming it needs 5V, DC, 2 Amp Your body would need to produce and output WITHOUT LOSS 10 Watts of Power LOL.......yeah right Logically.. if it could do that, YOU'D LITERALLY ELECTROCUTE YOURSELF AND DIE LOL so yeah... NOT A FUCKING CHANCE IN THE WORLD
@@Orange_390 i know.... but it just seems to be the way that when a movie spins a level of shit that to the lamen .. makes them go like...... umm hang on.. is that real ? it seems to be a trend that my friends come to me for the answer LOL
@@martinkuliza mate if you were pissed of by the zombie car scene i suggest you not watch any modern fast and furious. They are getting progressively more ridiculous. A Lykan jumping from 3 consecutive buildings when the damn thing can't even run in a track without catching fire in real life
The cars arent the most expensive in grassroots rallt... the rally license, tires (cant use normal tires for most rallys) parts (wear really quick due to the stress they go thru in rally) and the protection gear is where your money goes in the rally world
they messed it up. The first 3 movies were ok maybe fast 5 and 4 but other than that.... Too much robbing, police and stuff, not to mention the scientific shit.
@@smilemore1997 I didn't mean it like that. I meant that the 1st f&f had a great story than the 2nd movie came it also had a great story. Tokyodrift was great. But than hobbs came, then shaw and that's it. Now it's not a great franchise about an fbi agent and a illegal race clan, but it's more of that typical thing that movies have.. hard to say in words. It's like racing with guns and that's no good cuz it's not fast and furious anymore.... it's something else, you get what I'm saying?
@@marktakac8337 ohhhh. Yes I completely understand you now and I do agree that they aren’t really fast and the furious (as we know it) anymore but the title still stands and by themselves are still good movies.
I’m going to predict the future: Dom shoots a celica into space, crashing into an evil government’s base on Mars by cramming in 10 bottles of nos into the 10 turbos set up on the celica.
Haha I have a minor in Physics, and movies are boring now. All you do is analyze what's "Wrong" with the movie... I understand where you're coming from
9:43 That reminds me of Fast and Furious 5 - Right after the Bank Vault heist, the 2 Chargers seem to switch into their ‘2nd Reverse Gear’ as they speed off with the Safe.
its F+F.... most cars have boxes with 20+ forward and 5+ reverse gears. As well as probably three or four neutrals - because the more neutrals, the better. You can never have too many neutrals.
Right like they are honestly taking it way to seriously like donut bros it’s a movie hence it’s fake 😅😂 but science behind makes more sense then going after cringe lines actors have no say on there lines but they mostly are doing it because they adding something in the meantime until there other regular better content comes back. Day 321 without up to speed 😂🤣
In regards to a car going fast in reverse, you could technically do it with a "standard" transmission -- only if your car had a CVT. A Dutch company called DAF made CVT cars in the 60s and 70s, which gave birth to an unusual competition called "Dutch reverse racing." DAF cars had no speed limiter in reverse gear, which meant the car's reverse top speed was the same as its forward top speed.
That is very interesting but I’m a little confused, how could you have a standard transmission and a Continuously Variable Transmission in the same vehicle? They’re two different systems
Physics has left the chat since the first fast n furious, when the pink s2000 jump off the bridge and the nos create a supersonic speed on the side window
Fun fact - some tractors are quicker in reverse than in forward gears. And yes, they can theoretically go 100 MPH, when powered by a gas engine and not a lazy diesel.
Thank you about the NOS one, I've multiple times talk about how this is impossible (even once at a garage, the mechanic decided to test it, took a blow torch to a stream of nitrious oxide he was spraying in the air). Also love the "Zombie Car Apocalypse", because after the movie my mother goes "is that even possible", and I had to break it down for her (like how not all would have it)
while i totally agree/understand NO itself isnt flammable, theres a big difference in taking a torch to a stream of NO being sprayed VS taking a torch to the actual compressed bottle with it fully shut.
@@tconthepc_6958 or better do that to burning liquid fuel inside some container which should better represent what happens in the movie. I mean its really not what burns that makes thing explode, it's the pressure build up when it burn. gasoline alone can explode if it burns fast enough. I don't really see why adding oxidizer would make it burn slower
@@tconthepc_6958 Bottles have a safety blow-off valve for that reason. It would empty the bottle long before it would explode from pressure. If it DIDN'T have that, it could explode...but luckily they all do
You should talk about the "too soon junior" line and how they always wait with their Nos presses for some reason. That makes no sense - as long as you are not going to make too much power to break traction (like in 1st gear) you should get on Nos as soon as possible for the best acceleration (again, as long as you have traction, which you probably do in 2nd gear in a Jetta)
Yeah I put the blame on this franchise for making everyone believe Nos is like some rocket fuel booster that lasts 5 seconds so you have to perfectly time it. Also that Nos requires additional tuning lol. I always remember that one scene from king of the hill where Dale blows his mower motor in a race by trying to add nos lmao
I want to see the most scientifically accurate movie of all time: A Fast & Furious/Transformers crossover, directed by Roland Emmerich and written by the writers for Spongebob Squarepants.
Craig Lieberman has done a whole channel of fast and furious debunking videos and behind the scenes, he explains the exploding nos scene from a production background, its basically a giant propane tank with a remote detonator in a gutted shell
About the high-speed reverse: The real show-stopper to this is the steering geometry of a car. The steering is set up in a way to get a good directional stability and a righting / restoring moment. While driving forward... Driving reverse, this effect also reverses: The car does not want to drive straightforward by itself and if the wheels start to steer in one direction, they want to increase the steering angle.
The main problem I had with "car zombie apocalypse" when I saw this movie was, even if you could some how "hack them all", most vehicle's don't have any steering input mechanics that you could control. The only exceptions would be cars with self parallel parking feature. Or as you said, self driving assistance feature.
On the reverse thing, when interviewed, the stunt techs who worked on the cars actually said making a car drive backwards at speed was a really simple device attached to the transmission. Sure, it's not your everyday part, but it's possible.
Exactly. I just got done explaining that! ...and in fact, it would work BETTER than a factory EFI in that scenario. This channel so is unbelievably wrong on so many occasions, it drives me nuts!
I always loved when on the movies they could combine both a turbo with NOS, when in reality if you do that your car goes boom, too much stuff going on the engine.
I don’t understand how this is still “Bumper 2 Bumper” when you’re not going over a vehicle from bumper... to bumper. That’s how the show got it’s name, you know? Not to say it’s not still a good show. I enjoyed the episode. Super informative, as usual, but you can feel where I’m coming from, yeah?
You could literally say, "Dude what's making your car go faster" "N0" "Why won't you tell me" "I told you already, N0" "You didn't answer me" "Yes I did, N0"
@@99toyotacorolla Yeah, what the hell was with that? What did the engine make so much torque that it twisted the floor out of the car? ...and I bet that's still a better explanation than anyone who worked on the movie could come up with. And was anyone else confused when a bunch of tuner car lovers were surprised that a Mark IV supra had a 2JZ? Or that Jesse had to explain to Letty how a turbo works?
I've done a wheelie while spinning the tires but that's on my bike and happens quite a lot , isn't unheard of on bikes. But I am sure this happening on a car would be a way different scenario
Even if the tyres are going up in smoke, there's still some forward drive being produced. People apply the brakes for stationary burnouts, after all. On a bike you can lean backwards, drastically reducing how much torque is needed to lift the front. And onn some bikes it should be possible to jank up the front just with your body, no engine torque required at all
I'm a ASE tech and I remember that I was laughing so hard that I couldn't breathe during the whole Cuban race. So many people were pissed and steering at me like I owed them money, my friends were gone before I was able to get my breath enough to stand.
This was easily one of my favorite Donut media vids ever, and I'm a big fan of all the various shows. I got into cars not just for the cars, but for the engineering and ingenious science of cars as well, and this satisfied me.
Ok… learned something here!!!! I know all about turbos and super chargers etc. But I never dug into NoS. And I thought it was REALLY cool that is not jet fuel, but actually a third way of just adding more oxygen to the combustion process just like the basic principle of a turbo or Charger! Thanks Donut!
Yeah pretty much! What sux about the N2O though, is (especially with a decent size shot) keeping the bottle full! I only ran a 200hp plate on one of my cars like 15 yrs ago, and it lasts for quite literally a handful of passes down the strip before you have to top the bottle back off ($$$). Can be tricky too if you're trying to run "consistent" times, as the bottle pressure is always changing. You can, of course, use bottle heaters and stuff, but at that point, you've spent over a grand on you nitrous setup (which you still have to keep getting refilled). It's definitely not for the "budget racer" imho Turbocharge the engine and be done with it! :) ...and add nitrous to that later for extra fun. lol btw, nitrous works really well with turbos (a "50hp shot" will make around 100hp extra with forced induction, too)
Morise the car company that build the mini made a gear box like 10:45 That had this very cool designs you should check it out it was designed so in ww2 you could escape tanks faster in your car
If I remember correctly, there was a G63 that could do 60mph (100kph) in reverse. Stock, out of factory. And some people rolled it, so there was a recall to limit the reverse speed.
I was so ready for Jeremiah to end the video saying the craziest scene, the zombie car apocalypse, was the most realistic but then I realized they were hacking into old models lol
I argued about the zombie car apocalypse with my dad once, I told him most of the cars are too old to have any "hacking potential" 😆, and he was like "nah, shit seems legit" haha
Got to see a presentation at universal done by the stunt drivers, the way they said they normally do the car driving backwards trick is they actually get the body mounted backwards on the frame and have the drivers seat and controls still facing the "front". I could see them just having slow cars for the interstate scene though since relative speeds on camera are all sorts of weird.
Meanwhile, in your videos you forgot to mention the supercharging effect of NOS by cooling the air going inside the air intake. That's in part what makes the mixture more efficient (cooler air = higher density). It's called chemical forced induction. BTW, the NOS won't ignite at explosion, but the bottle under high temperature (the car is on fire) can explode because of expansion of the gas contained inside. So the coloured flames might be kind of right actually ^^. (sorry if my english sucks)
Bottle can't explode. They're equipped with a pressure safety release valve. It dumps it's contents long before the pressure gets high enough to do anything to the bottle.
Well not 250mph because you can't use the power from the ICE in reverse, but you could theoretically go pretty fast in reverse because the electric engines can go just as fast in either direction and you've still got 700hp from them. If it wasn't limited electronically, which I'm sure it is otherwise it's suicide, I bet the Regera could do 180mph in reverse just fine.
They faked it in the movie www.motortrend.com/news/the-fast-and-the-furious-dominic-1969-dodge-charger/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiGvcOz4qruAhWimq0KHdsIC3cQFjABegQIAhAG&usg=AOvVaw2qh3bhmTtnPjrHeEgv6tUZ&cf=1
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yea that car had a tractor transfer case so forward and reverse are on a seperate stick from the gears , you can switch between drive and reverse and have 4 gears in each
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@Leto Day nah i don't care that "how could they!?" but its just annoying
Me: “Brian, how can I do 100mph in reverse?”
Brian: “I said forget about it cuh.”
Ahahahahahahaha nice 😂
*Mater be like:*
*ded*
man he runnin dat Galo's 24
YooooOo u got me dying over here at 2:50am wit this comment. “I sed forget about it cuh”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No one:
F&F 9: “We need to launch the Rocket Pontiac Fiero into space to stop the alien invasion!”
Lol I laughed so hard
The Rock-"we would but the nos went into the coilovers and short circuited the boost gauge"
Elon Musk probably helped them with that one
I bet they are going to drive the tesla that Elon launched into space
That's why I stopped at the fourth one.
But It's Not Science That Makes Those Cars This Ridiculous , It's Family.
Love the comment
@@realredman7253 Thanks 😊
Nothing is impossible if you have *Family*
😂😂😂
@@moriya3727 nothing is possible if you have a strict family
Jeremiah: *"Cars can't drive fast backwards"*
Volvo 340 Automatic: **Laughs in Dutch**
Was looking for this comment. Wasn't disappointed.
Also a v6 charger can go 60mph in reverse. Tested it. If u steer as hard as Brian does your going to roll your car
Why Dutch?
Don't you mean Swedish lmao?
@@grahamfrickers3446 Because when Volvo bought out the dutch car manufacturer DAF in the 70's they kept producing DAF's 2 remaining models as the Volvo 66 and the Volvo 340, but they were just re-badged DAFs with DAF's signature CVT that could go as fast in reverse as they could forward.
Next episode of money pit: "Can NOS™ make the miata do a wheelie?"
@Connor Eyestone I MX5 can obviously do a. Burnout lol
No.... but it can still explode if under extreme heat. Its pressurized like your can of lynx.
@@kouki__outletedits9803 I think he means simultaneously
@@orderofmagnitude-TPATP idk what lynx is
@@PandaOnSkis an anti-persperant. Dioderant
Not only is Dom doing a wheelie AND a burnout at the same time (props to you guys as I've never noticed that before), but he's also expertly controlling all of this without hitting his car on the ground or flipping over despite the absence of wheelie bars.
The reason they did that was because they had a hydraulic bar that would lift the front end of the charger so it could do a wheelie. They added smoke so viewers couldn't see the bar that lifted the front. If was nothing more than movie magic so the scene was more interesting
@@andrewmiller1246 No shit, Sherlock.
@@rars0n Calm down nerd he's just explaining the reason they had both in there, I thought it was helpful
@@bighomie6435 You both missed the point.
@@bighomie6435 you really did miss the point
Vin diesel seems like the kinda guy to permanently run rich just incase he needs to pull the coketab on his wastegate.
😂😂
"Pull the coketab on his wastegate"
I don't know how, but I will incorporate this into my daily vocabulary. :D
Lnao I love your pfp
@@lllBASlll I'll pull the tab on YOUR wastegate ;)
@@DominicDarrell
Easy there, Tiger. You gotta take me out to dinner first- I suggest Gallo's ;)
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@@BernieMP YOU MISSED EVERYTHING MY MAN
No one could say a story about just a car company winning race while crying in happiness...only James can do it
@@BernieMP yeah dude it’s pretty much what donut was built on
@@justinfackler4189 The early videos were all explaining technical stuff, similar to this video.
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The most baffling question in existence isn't how the universe began, but how F&F went from street racing to mission impossible.
Reinventing themselves
I'm guessing box office numbers had something to do with it. also street racing is kind of 90's/early 2000's. these zoomers with their electric cars don't really get it.
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They literally said it in the first movie
Long been explained. Viewers wanted action, few actually wanted cars and racing. Even Craig Lieberman pointed that out.
No way he hacked those cars without going to StackOverflow at least once.
Well moral of the story is that older car without cellular connection is hacker proof 🤣🤣🤣
@@ramadhanisme7 another reason to buy an old ass celica with more rust spots than horsepower
@@Ivannbeats u are essentially driving a car which not only changes colour but degrades over time into fine piece of aluminuim and iron
@@gwadamit8116 grind down the aluminium, mix it with rust and retire it in glorious ball of burning metal.
@@renee_atomik what
I remember being at the drag strip around the time of the first movie. A mustang had a nitrous backfire that blew his headlight out. Some dude yelled "NOS" and cleared the stands hahaha
yup nos, i loved the series but fast 9 had 0 physics imo lol
that so cringy funny haha
@@wykedinsanity they all were out there on physics, especially 5 and later.
@@bodyrumuae2914 especially 7 and later, because it just became the avengers after that
@@NoobZword 7 and later? There's been a lot of people that critiqued the scene in Fast Five where they rip the vault out of the bank and drive it around town. A lot of stuff in Fast Five and Fast & Furious 6 wouldn't work as portrayed or even at all.
“If F&F is real, Spider man would be”
- My Father
Your father is respected
Dads real until they go out to get milk
Loll
Your father is based.
Spiderman is more scientifically accurate than F&F lmao
the thing about the tractor transmission shifting gears in reverse is true. Many tractors and other heavy equipment have a seperate shifter for engaging forward and reverse which means that you can normally shift into all the gears while going in reverse
Nice info 🔥
It would have been easier if they just flipped the rear end upside down.
Very true but the transmission gear ratios would still hold you back. Most tractor/ HE transmissions aren't designed to go faster than 25-30mph.
@@LMG6989 you can install a taller final gear in the diff
Other thing Dom yells GAS not Nos. Check the subtitles
"cant drive fast in reverse"
*laughs in defective gear ratio*
Exactly. Probably not to 100mph but the top speed can definitely be increased (possibly at the expense of a whole bunch of things).
Custom 1.23:1 reverse gear. Have to get it up to at least 45mph in forward before spinning around for reverse engagement.
They definetly used a tractor or semi transmission so they had multiple gears in both directions, there is a article about it somewhere
@@shadowgotmilk1 one of our tractor has 36 reverse gears
@@JussiValkila ah yes, 36 reverse gears
Who esle laughed when Jermaih mentioned that there where many kids in Cuba and the fact that Dom just picks up a random child 😂😂
@F**СК МЕ - СНЕСK МY РR0FILЕ I'll report your channel
Anybody remember when fast and the furious movies were actually about cars and street racing
Yup
I think it was like 20 years ago🤣
Nope, don't remember it at all. It never happened in the first place
I think that stopped after Tokyo Drift to be honest.
They never were. They have always been heist movies. Street racing and cars were, and still are a subplot.
That zombie car scene, christ. I remember just saying "what the fuck is this shit?" In the theater
as an I.T. engineer, i remember thinking................ NOT A FUCKING CHANCE
LOL
and after the movie i had friends asking me
and i was like ...... "Mate.. no fucking chance in the world"
and then they were like "yeah, but what if...."
and i was like "NO!!!! NOT A FUCKING CHANCE"
i said the same thing when they thought you could charge your cell phone using the energy from your body and holding a few coins separated by some paper (to supposedly create a capacitor)
well... the flaw in that plan is..... to charge your phone, Assuming it needs 5V, DC, 2 Amp
Your body would need to produce and output WITHOUT LOSS 10 Watts of Power
LOL.......yeah right
Logically.. if it could do that, YOU'D LITERALLY ELECTROCUTE YOURSELF AND DIE LOL
so yeah... NOT A FUCKING CHANCE IN THE WORLD
@@martinkuliza Most people aren't gonna understand a thing about that capacitor thing but in short yeah, " NO F*CKING CHANCE!!!!!"
@@Orange_390
i know....
but it just seems to be the way that when a movie spins a level of shit that to the lamen .. makes them go like...... umm hang on.. is that real ?
it seems to be a trend that my friends come to me for the answer LOL
Ah come on. I loved the way they were able to hack a bunch of '90's Crown Vics.😁
@@martinkuliza mate if you were pissed of by the zombie car scene i suggest you not watch any modern fast and furious. They are getting progressively more ridiculous. A Lykan jumping from 3 consecutive buildings when the damn thing can't even run in a track without catching fire in real life
We want a d list episode on cheap rally project cars.
Day 50 of asking Jeremiah to do a B2B on an LMP car
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The cars arent the most expensive in grassroots rallt... the rally license,
tires (cant use normal tires for most rallys)
parts (wear really quick due to the stress they go thru in rally)
and the protection gear
is where your money goes in the rally world
@@fuckngreat8955 thanks for the info man. I didn't knew that things. But still we want a d list anyway lol😂
Any car will do... as long as you have the balls.
@@Knockthefout yess we want the d list
If they'd talked about Hobbs and Shaw, they would've spent 5 hours dissecting all the bullshit.
Yeah, or FNF9. The trailer has 5 hours of bullshit in it alone.
they messed it up. The first 3 movies were ok maybe fast 5 and 4 but other than that.... Too much robbing, police and stuff, not to mention the scientific shit.
@@marktakac8337 it’s a movie. If you want scientific accuracy go watch a documentary.
@@smilemore1997 I didn't mean it like that. I meant that the 1st f&f had a great story than the 2nd movie came it also had a great story. Tokyodrift was great. But than hobbs came, then shaw and that's it. Now it's not a great franchise about an fbi agent and a illegal race clan, but it's more of that typical thing that movies have.. hard to say in words. It's like racing with guns and that's no good cuz it's not fast and furious anymore.... it's something else, you get what I'm saying?
@@marktakac8337 ohhhh. Yes I completely understand you now and I do agree that they aren’t really fast and the furious (as we know it) anymore but the title still stands and by themselves are still good movies.
FF12: wheelie while drifting while burn out while stoppie while rolling
While being fwd
So that would mean it's a hybrid muscle & jdm doing all of that on one rear wheel?
@@I_love_bread_and_Hungry_Jacks yo you a math professor?
@@sharx7781 Just using what little common sense & brain cells I have left since 2020.
You would need 48,513,392 pound feet of torque to do that
I’m going to predict the future:
Dom shoots a celica into space, crashing into an evil government’s base on Mars by cramming in 10 bottles of nos into the 10 turbos set up on the celica.
as a former celica owner, i support this
Spoiler alert: That Celica is Scotty's 1994 one.
And in the end he says: Family and then drives off while shifting in an automatic car
They dont do old Japanese sports cars anymore. It would be a 2021 audi rs7
Being engineer really takes out joy of watching movies sometimes...
People who works with computers know what you mean!
Haha I have a minor in Physics, and movies are boring now. All you do is analyze what's "Wrong" with the movie... I understand where you're coming from
Or a VFX artist
Imagine being a film major
@@PontiacBandit i thought i was the only one lol
9:43 That reminds me of Fast and Furious 5 - Right after the Bank Vault heist, the 2 Chargers seem to switch into their ‘2nd Reverse Gear’ as they speed off with the Safe.
its F+F.... most cars have boxes with 20+ forward and 5+ reverse gears. As well as probably three or four neutrals - because the more neutrals, the better. You can never have too many neutrals.
Oh boy, donut just going after the fast franchise aren't they 😂😂
Right!
@@jdiggy24able about time someone did lol
Right like they are honestly taking it way to seriously like donut bros it’s a movie hence it’s fake 😅😂 but science behind makes more sense then going after cringe lines actors have no say on there lines but they mostly are doing it because they adding something in the meantime until there other regular better content comes back. Day 321 without up to speed 😂🤣
@@EAA324 True 😂
Yah
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@@wwblanch24 makes me not trust them when they have the balls to say Raycons are good.
The welfare program for youtubers.
Spencer Lemay I think they are bound by contract to bullshit the quality of their sponsors...
In regards to a car going fast in reverse, you could technically do it with a "standard" transmission -- only if your car had a CVT. A Dutch company called DAF made CVT cars in the 60s and 70s, which gave birth to an unusual competition called "Dutch reverse racing." DAF cars had no speed limiter in reverse gear, which meant the car's reverse top speed was the same as its forward top speed.
Huh, the more you know
That is very interesting but I’m a little confused, how could you have a standard transmission and a Continuously Variable Transmission in the same vehicle? They’re two different systems
@@ratherbefishing4225 he means with just an unmodified transmission that comes with the car.
Electric cars can go that fast in reverse, but obviously F&F is not using EVs
Just like in Big Rigs Over The Road Racing!
Mercedes G Wagon could do 60+ miles per before the recall ( reference: James HRSPR. )🔥🔥🔥
you mean in reverse?
Any car with a CVT can go as fast forwards as it can in reverse. The only thing stopping it is the governor.
@@jacobharryman822 ok
Volkswagen golf 2 could go very fast in reverse
@@milan724726 It can go very fast if you push it off a cliff.
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Much needed video finally here..
Thanks a lot! 🔥
Physics has left the chat since the first fast n furious, when the pink s2000 jump off the bridge and the nos create a supersonic speed on the side window
That jump is actually legitimate. It was done using a remote controlled s2000.
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Fun fact - some tractors are quicker in reverse than in forward gears. And yes, they can theoretically go 100 MPH, when powered by a gas engine and not a lazy diesel.
If you think a diesel is lazy in a tractor, a petrol or ‘gas’ engine would be 10x more lazy. Tractors are heavy. Torque is important.
actually i wasn't a car nerd until i watched the entire SCIENCE GARAGE series you guys made. so thanks you legends
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Man I really missed the OG science garage with Bart.
Gino
Noone:
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@@Domfrey. no
Noone? More like Everyone!
..."if u got it, flash it!" would be better?
@@spetsnazhunter haha I have 48 now
Thank you about the NOS one, I've multiple times talk about how this is impossible (even once at a garage, the mechanic decided to test it, took a blow torch to a stream of nitrious oxide he was spraying in the air).
Also love the "Zombie Car Apocalypse", because after the movie my mother goes "is that even possible", and I had to break it down for her (like how not all would have it)
while i totally agree/understand NO itself isnt flammable, theres a big difference in taking a torch to a stream of NO being sprayed VS taking a torch to the actual compressed bottle with it fully shut.
@@tconthepc_6958 or better do that to burning liquid fuel inside some container which should better represent what happens in the movie.
I mean its really not what burns that makes thing explode, it's the pressure build up when it burn.
gasoline alone can explode if it burns fast enough. I don't really see why adding oxidizer would make it burn slower
@@tconthepc_6958 Bottles have a safety blow-off valve for that reason. It would empty the bottle long before it would explode from pressure. If it DIDN'T have that, it could explode...but luckily they all do
You should talk about the "too soon junior" line and how they always wait with their Nos presses for some reason. That makes no sense - as long as you are not going to make too much power to break traction (like in 1st gear) you should get on Nos as soon as possible for the best acceleration (again, as long as you have traction, which you probably do in 2nd gear in a Jetta)
Yeah I put the blame on this franchise for making everyone believe Nos is like some rocket fuel booster that lasts 5 seconds so you have to perfectly time it.
Also that Nos requires additional tuning lol. I always remember that one scene from king of the hill where Dale blows his mower motor in a race by trying to add nos lmao
I want to see the most scientifically accurate movie of all time:
A Fast & Furious/Transformers crossover, directed by Roland Emmerich and written by the writers for Spongebob Squarepants.
the old writers of spongebob actually had to know about marine biology to an extent
I’d like to see the equations for the safe being pulled by 2 chargers lol
Craig Lieberman has done a whole channel of fast and furious debunking videos and behind the scenes, he explains the exploding nos scene from a production background, its basically a giant propane tank with a remote detonator in a gutted shell
His videos are great.
Last time I was this early, Dom didn't have a Family yet.
Last time I was this early, I got extra credit.
Last time I was this early Dom just got out of Lompoc after serving 2 years for beating a guy with a wrench.
@@djsonicc his character or actor???
About the high-speed reverse:
The real show-stopper to this is the steering geometry of a car. The steering is set up in a way to get a good directional stability and a righting / restoring moment. While driving forward...
Driving reverse, this effect also reverses: The car does not want to drive straightforward by itself and if the wheels start to steer in one direction, they want to increase the steering angle.
The main problem I had with "car zombie apocalypse" when I saw this movie was, even if you could some how "hack them all", most vehicle's don't have any steering input mechanics that you could control. The only exceptions would be cars with self parallel parking feature. Or as you said, self driving assistance feature.
My 2002 Prius has electric power steering.
@@aspecreviews electric power
steering just makes the wheel easier to spin it does not control steering
@@aspecreviews Your not a writer for F&F are you?
"Bust out your TI-89" lol someone went to high-school in early 00's😅
We're still using that in middle school!
Get ready to use it in higher math/stats etc. College classes
My sister had a hussle with those ti-89s
Ti-89 was too expensive in the early 2000s for me to have one. Had to get through high-school with a boring ass scientific calculator
They've been around much longer than that. I graduated in '99 and I'm pretty sure they were around for my whole school career.
The only vehicle I've seen wheely while burning out was a turbocharged hayabusa (motorcycle making like 270 ish hp) it was horrifying
motorcycles are way lighter, so that makes sense
Uncle Jerry: 100mph in reverse is not possible.
CVT Subaru Impreza: hold my head gasket.
I was gonna say the same thing XD what about CVT's
@@dqui8677 CVT's can also go just as fast in reverse as they go forward.
Brian: dies, screaming, in a burning ball of fire with his driver next to him in his porsche after driving 100mph in reverse
On the reverse thing, when interviewed, the stunt techs who worked on the cars actually said making a car drive backwards at speed was a really simple device attached to the transmission. Sure, it's not your everyday part, but it's possible.
this dude looks like an undercover cop trying to buy weed at a highschool party
Lol the "graduate" with man wrinkles
"FAMILY"
Viji
Some Tractors usually have 3 gear levers: all your gears. 2wd and 4wd and then forward or backward. So yes, a tractor can go all gears backwards.
For the Cuban car, boost refrenced fpr raises fuel pressure to compensate for higher boost levels. You don’t need to rejet the carb to up the boost
Exactly. I just got done explaining that! ...and in fact, it would work BETTER than a factory EFI in that scenario.
This channel so is unbelievably wrong on so many occasions, it drives me nuts!
Love how educational and entertaining this is. Imagine if schools explained things like this haha. 🙌🏻
Lol the one about the zombie cars cracked me up when they hacked a CROWN VIC! HOW?!
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I always loved when on the movies they could combine both a turbo with NOS, when in reality if you do that your car goes boom, too much stuff going on the engine.
Turbo engines loves N2O
I don’t understand how this is still “Bumper 2 Bumper” when you’re not going over a vehicle from bumper... to bumper. That’s how the show got it’s name, you know?
Not to say it’s not still a good show. I enjoyed the episode. Super informative, as usual, but you can feel where I’m coming from, yeah?
jerry meant to say back 2 back lol
Why do u fake movies ?
Dom : because we’re family
You could literally say, "Dude what's making your car go faster"
"N0"
"Why won't you tell me"
"I told you already, N0"
"You didn't answer me"
"Yes I did, N0"
Technically it’s N2O
@@yirdna25 yeah, and commonly it is called NOS not No
Wow, donut’s on a fast and furious kick
check Craig Lieberman’s channel , they simply watched some of his videos
That Porsche is a good car my man
I can't wait to see what fast in the furious reference money pit is going with 🤣
Instead of before the intro being "lets go" he should have said FAMILY
ba dududu DOOOOOO DOOOO DOOOOOOOO bzzzzt
Like to agree: WE NEED AN UP TO SPEED ON THE OIL CRISIS SO WE CAN WRAP UP THE REFERENCES
"Warning! Danger to manifold"
Gino
That's the most famous makes no sense thing in fast and furious history and they didn't talk about it
@@triumphtheinsultdog1550 i know right?
You didn't mention Brian's 9 speed manual Eclipse.
The Danger to Manifold, floor destroyer, Eclipse
Brian: dies, screaming, in a burning ball of fire with his driver next to him in his Eclipse after driving 100mph in reverse
@@99toyotacorolla Yeah, what the hell was with that? What did the engine make so much torque that it twisted the floor out of the car? ...and I bet that's still a better explanation than anyone who worked on the movie could come up with. And was anyone else confused when a bunch of tuner car lovers were surprised that a Mark IV supra had a 2JZ? Or that Jesse had to explain to Letty how a turbo works?
10:57 the idea is that he has a separate reverse gear so when he slams it innreverse he still has the top gear but in reverse
This video would need 10 parts to bust all the myths of the FAF series
This is the first raid: shadow legends ad I haven’t skipped through
Can't believe Dom pulled off the front sheet metal by hand! I can't rip that stuff off when only one of the many many bolds are left on lol
NOS, Reverse gear, ZOMBIE CAR APOCALYPSE
"That escalated quickly" is an understatement
How about...
Brian: dies, screaming, in a burning ball of fire with his driver next to him in his porsche after driving 100mph in reverse
Yep.
I've done a wheelie while spinning the tires but that's on my bike and happens quite a lot , isn't unheard of on bikes. But I am sure this happening on a car would be a way different scenario
Even if the tyres are going up in smoke, there's still some forward drive being produced. People apply the brakes for stationary burnouts, after all. On a bike you can lean backwards, drastically reducing how much torque is needed to lift the front. And onn some bikes it should be possible to jank up the front just with your body, no engine torque required at all
I'm a ASE tech and I remember that I was laughing so hard that I couldn't breathe during the whole Cuban race. So many people were pissed and steering at me like I owed them money, my friends were gone before I was able to get my breath enough to stand.
Actually the Wastegate trick would work on a Venturi side draft carb
Hey when will you make a up to speed on the pontiac trans’am/firebird
They have im p sure
Nvm
Let’s hope for the best 😁
@@oliviercote2745 pop up up and down headlights!!!
Cubic
This was easily one of my favorite Donut media vids ever, and I'm a big fan of all the various shows. I got into cars not just for the cars, but for the engineering and ingenious science of cars as well, and this satisfied me.
i've been liking this fast and furious content! interesting to see your takes on all the cringe and strange shit they have going on in the movies lol
Ok… learned something here!!!! I know all about turbos and super chargers etc. But I never dug into NoS. And I thought it was REALLY cool that is not jet fuel, but actually a third way of just adding more oxygen to the combustion process just like the basic principle of a turbo or Charger! Thanks Donut!
Yeah pretty much! What sux about the N2O though, is (especially with a decent size shot) keeping the bottle full! I only ran a 200hp plate on one of my cars like 15 yrs ago, and it lasts for quite literally a handful of passes down the strip before you have to top the bottle back off ($$$).
Can be tricky too if you're trying to run "consistent" times, as the bottle pressure is always changing. You can, of course, use bottle heaters and stuff, but at that point, you've spent over a grand on you nitrous setup (which you still have to keep getting refilled). It's definitely not for the "budget racer" imho
Turbocharge the engine and be done with it! :)
...and add nitrous to that later for extra fun. lol
btw, nitrous works really well with turbos (a "50hp shot" will make around 100hp extra with forced induction, too)
Morise the car company that build the mini made a gear box like 10:45 That had this very cool designs you should check it out it was designed so in ww2 you could escape tanks faster in your car
If I remember correctly, there was a G63 that could do 60mph (100kph) in reverse. Stock, out of factory. And some people rolled it, so there was a recall to limit the reverse speed.
The Ford Crown Victoria could also exceed 60mph in reverse. At least with one available diff ratio
Finally a Raid Shadow Legends sponsorship ad that doesn't sound exactly the same.
10:51 In the 2003 HotWheels Worldrace and 2005's Acceleracers Ignition, the car known as "slingshot" is known to have 3 reverse gears.
Whoever is hating on this guy shut he isn’t James or Nolan but he is himself and that’s good enough
Day 295 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad
*t h e l e g e n d r e t u r n s*
Hello there
One day...
@Kellen Ford he's back!
*THE PROFESY IS TRUE*
I was so ready for Jeremiah to end the video saying the craziest scene, the zombie car apocalypse, was the most realistic but then I realized they were hacking into old models lol
I argued about the zombie car apocalypse with my dad once, I told him most of the cars are too old to have any "hacking potential" 😆, and he was like "nah, shit seems legit" haha
9:50 forza kids be like “jUsT lEnGhEn ThE gEaRs In TuNiNg”
My little brother is a forza kid and I can confirm he does act like he knows more than everyone about cars cus he plays a video game
I want to have intellectual chats with car people. This is epic!
Fun Fact: A Car tire has at 13% Slip the most acceleration.
Site your sources 😤😤😤
@@SWATROLLK9 tire manufacturing 🥸
@@SWATROLLK9 also im from Austria, so i dont know if im find something in english
@@SWATROLLK9 tractor tires are made to their best "acceleration from 50-78% slip.
@@firegames1001 that’s fine. I was just wondering. I never really knew how much slip is too much! Thats awesome
The sales pitch at the end of the video was awesome, took me by surprise.😂
You must be new.
no matter how unrealistic it is , still F&F is my fav car movie franchise!!!!!!
You know a channel has gotten hooked on that sweet sweet sponsor money when they take one from Raid Shadow Legends😂
Maaaan, you can’t go getting me hyped with that
*Pop up up and down headliiiiights*
and expect me to NOT buy one of those shirts
Vino
Vino
Got to see a presentation at universal done by the stunt drivers, the way they said they normally do the car driving backwards trick is they actually get the body mounted backwards on the frame and have the drivers seat and controls still facing the "front". I could see them just having slow cars for the interstate scene though since relative speeds on camera are all sorts of weird.
Never realized the wheelie was doing a burnout at the same time lol
Meanwhile, in your videos you forgot to mention the supercharging effect of NOS by cooling the air going inside the air intake. That's in part what makes the mixture more efficient (cooler air = higher density). It's called chemical forced induction. BTW, the NOS won't ignite at explosion, but the bottle under high temperature (the car is on fire) can explode because of expansion of the gas contained inside. So the coloured flames might be kind of right actually ^^.
(sorry if my english sucks)
Bottle can't explode. They're equipped with a pressure safety release valve. It dumps it's contents long before the pressure gets high enough to do anything to the bottle.
This is the kinds of videos that I love
Love for cars and love for physics
Only me and the boys remember the 250 Miles per hour Regera going in Reverse in Forza Horizon 3
Well not 250mph because you can't use the power from the ICE in reverse, but you could theoretically go pretty fast in reverse because the electric engines can go just as fast in either direction and you've still got 700hp from them. If it wasn't limited electronically, which I'm sure it is otherwise it's suicide, I bet the Regera could do 180mph in reverse just fine.
If you google image search “vintage dragster wheelie” there’s pics of old school dragsters doing wheelie burnouts
I kinda remember those too. They look like around 60s or 70s
occasionally modern drag bikes do it
sure its entirely realistic...
They faked it in the movie www.motortrend.com/news/the-fast-and-the-furious-dominic-1969-dodge-charger/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwiGvcOz4qruAhWimq0KHdsIC3cQFjABegQIAhAG&usg=AOvVaw2qh3bhmTtnPjrHeEgv6tUZ&cf=1
They were also much lighter than a full bodied car. It would require less torque and/or less friction (traction) to lift the front end.
14:43 As a coincidence I clicked the Join button by accident when I started the video, now Donut will haunt me forever...
you missed the sweet sweet alliteration of “Fast and Furious Physics Fibs”
Pfft, listen to this Busta. He must be a cop.
Facts. This guy could set you up in a middle or a drag race or street race LMFAOOO
I'm confused. Is it F&F busta or GTA SA busta?
Donut media should handle commercials for all automotive related products. 😂😂😂😂😂 They the best.