@@AndrewEblingwhat's really nice is you burn as many calories as you need to! The reality of using a bike for commuting is that you might be late, you might be tired, there might be any number of reasons you're behind. And an ebike helps you with that. Especially if you want to flow with city traffic better. I will say for city street use at some point we do need some kind of safety course requirement or license.
@@tanakax25I had to ride a normal bike up 3 giant hills to get to and from work in the middle of the night as a teenager. I got into insanely good shape, and was proud of my ability, but if I had the option for an e-bike I would've taken it in a heartbeat 😂 Showing up to work sweaty and already tired sucks. And then having to grind your way all the way back home after an 8 hour shift sucks even worse
@@GlorifiedGremlin right! I love biking, but I'm not up for that EVERY DAY. And even when I think I am up for it, I get a shitty day that tires me out.. or I'm late coming in, or the wind is against me, or I have to tackle a couple hills like you said. My favorite part of having an ebike right now is going through grass fields since my area doesn't have many bike trails. I just roll over bumpy tall grass fields with ease. On my normal MTB that would be EXHAUSTING
Yeah bikes are a good time I usually enjoy my commute Morning cardio and all that Usually the only thing that sucks is leaving early. Also do you commute in rain on your ebike? If so, what kind
Same situation for me except I got a decently made E-scooter. License got taken 8 years ago, and I've always had that serious 'wanderlust' since I was taught to ride a gas dirtbike by the time I was a few months shy of my 5th birthday (since apparently I had 'mastered' riding a regular bicycle w/o any training wheels just after turning 3yrs). But back to the Epilepsy issue, because of always having the itch to simply explore anywhere and everywhere, I became rather depressed; the feeling of being stuck in a minimum security prison, or having to be on a house arrest perhaps, had been taking a toll on my sense of freedom and general happiness. Walking, taking public transportation, and even riding a traditional bicycle just wasn't cutting it for me in the area I live. Bought the electric scooter last year and even with just a 24mph/38kph top speed, and about a 40 mile range (in 'ECO' Mode), though I get approximately a more realistic 20-25 mile range since I can't keep my heavy thumb out of the throttle. It brings a simple happiness into my days that no damn antidepressants could ever come close to doing for me. I've been looking to upgrade though and can't decide between an E-bike or a new scooter I've had my eye on that is twice as beefy as my current ride. Anyway, glad to see another 'flopper' here making a comment that reflects the same sentiment and reasoning as myself. Carpe Diem
@@Mike-oxlong1029how do you figure? Are we not allowed to go anywhere or do anything? Heck I have active seizures and still have a drivers license hows that make you feel 😂
@@Mike-oxlong1029something that would be much better is all cars have an interlock device for drunk drivers. Driving is not a right so we shouldn't even make it possible for someone to start a street legal vehicle while drunk. Only exceptions would be driving on your own property for work and most people don't have land like that anyway so the farmers would be fine and everyone else would be far safer. Honestly we're in the worst times for transportation, too late for horses and too early for all self driving cars. It's just like elevators used to have a driver's and everyone was scared to trust the automatic ones over someone controlling it when it's been proven countless times that we are terrible at everything we do when compared to computers and processing information efficiently. All self-driving cars should be their own independent entity though to make it extremely difficult to hack someone's car or even say you break a law and your car automatically takes you to the police station or something haha
Hell I'm 29 and to get a car in payments is just way out of my budget and I can't save enough money to buy a decent vehicle I wouldn't have to put money into that I don't have right now I commute with e scooter can't wait to save enough for an e bike .
the whole fun of riding is the fact that you're getting a great workout and getting to your location tho!. Not to mention people who get E bikes generally little-> No trail etiquette or knowledge (especially new immigrants who take their ENTIRE family pf 4-6 as a group , on their brand new 4k$ bikes and go down the trails as slow as possible....and just stand in groups randomly around corners... I've crashed into these groups over 3 times in 2021 alone on mt.Seymour.. on one occasion i almost knocked a child off the edge of a small embankment because his parents were lwtting his walk along the ladder ramps like a damn jungle gym... If I didn't bail and jump off of the 10' high track I was on I would have hit the kid Is going 15 km an hour and he would have fallen down and possibly broken his neck or back as there were logs below us down about 12-13ft.. and then a steeo embankment.. he must have been maybe 7 years old if that. So I had to literally jump off my bike and let myself and my bike fall 12' into a bushy area because there was no way I could slow down in time to avoid the child as to not give him serious concussion or throw him or knock him off the ladder bridge. This has never happened before with anyone on the mountain let alone a child with parents. and I live in the Northwest of British Columbia where mountain biking is 1 of the most popular things you can do here Aside from water sports and mountain climbing/hiking. they're kind of ruining it for the people who ride actual mountain bikes under their own power without those obnoxious2steoke bolt on motors or ebikes... As soon as they get to the bottom of the hill they pack up their bikes as quick as possible and drive out of there as not to be ridiculed by the dozens of other actual mountain bikers hanging out in the parking lot having a good time bonding over the difficult but fulfilling ride they just had... they're definitely not seen as part of the community that's for sure. I'm not saying ebikes can't be fun I'm just saying All of this could be resolved if we just put up some signs reminding people on ebikes not to congregate on actual trails and that people not riding ebikes are much more silent and you're not gonna hear me coming down a trail when I'm going 40km an hour fast enough for you to move out of the way in time if you're just standing there gawking at the trees like an idiot with your $4000 digital camera... Or if we actually had effective park Rangers who understood the safety hazards these travelers and foreigners cause when they come onto our bike parks and and trails thinking it's some simple recreation area when in fact you could get severely injured or kill yourself ( While it is unlikely it's certainly possible I've had 2 or 3 friends severely injured going off jumps and landing wrong including 2 of which that had punctured lungs as well as one with a broken forearm that had exposed bone... if you get in the way of someone coming down a hillfull speed.. YOUR the danger and the reason for a crash. there is no speed limit on the trail. but our signs arnt in mandarin or farsi so they dont understand the danger or rules for safety... My bad I definitely got off subject don't get me wrong I think e bikes are really cool I just think the last place anyone should be allowed to or should be riding them at all is on a actual downhill trail.. If you keep them on the roads I couldnt care less about ppl riding them. even then though people who ride bicycles on the road rarely obey traffic laws and go through red lights all the time..but that's a whole different story though and a whole different type of stupid.
Once I passed a group of older roadies going up a hill. I was testing out my friends e-bike, and they all called me a cheater. Little did they know it wasn't even turned on, so I was carrying an extra 10+ kilos up the hill...
Mtb bikers dislike road bikers on the road.mtb biker dislike emtb biker on uphill.hikers dislike mtb bikers.if someone ask me to choose only one,i i wanna choose emtb.
People need to remember that some of us are disabled and worn out. Biking isn't just about exercise. Sometimes we just want to get outside and cruise around in nature...
I rode mountain bikes all my life.The last few years I noticed I was riding less and less.Bought my electric mountain bike and ride more now than ever before.I’m 66 and still pedal every mile. But it is so much more enjoyable and I get up ready to ride daily!
yes I love my ebike.I have done nearly 1000 miles since January.I have just bought myself a full suspension ebike to go with my hardtail ebike, they are amazing
@@markmistretta01 Go on then. Rider your shitty dirt bike instead of complaining. Except that shit is noisy and a menace to the public. While the ebike is silent and people wouldnt bat and eye about it. Your retarded comparison is stupid. Youre compare a 2 or 4 stroke to an electric motor that uses magnets and silent as hell that produces no emissions and still light enough to be picked up and taken inside your home. Talaria or surrons those are more dirtbikes than ebikes cause theyre designed and look similar to dirt bikes
@@4lalaKitty Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil; for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me. Jesus Christ is first.
I find that PA level 1 on my ebike gives just enough power to compensate for the added weight, giving a performance that's pretty comparable to a regular bike. If I can do it on PA 1, I can do it on a regular bike.
You can put the same effort in as a standard pedal bike, but you just go further and faster for the same energy. And it makes you choose the ebike for many journeys that you wouldn't have time to do on the pedal bike.
@@tylersnow75 You can choose to put the same effort in. Mine on 1 only compensates for the extra weight of the ebike. And it doesn't compensate for me and the boy on the back (i have a seat on the back). I use low power levels normally and put a lot of effort in, but if I need to be somewhere at a certain time I will make it if I push the power up. Otherwise you would choose the car as the time limit would be impossible on a ordinary bike.
I ride an e-bike everyday to school purely just because I can’t take the bus and it’s a 2 mile walk. It’s fun, it’s so worth the money if you get a good brand.
@Joe Joe I've lost well over 100 pounds, still use my E-bike. Mid drive just means I can put the same amount of effort in and go *that much faster* up a hill.*
@@DFX2KX Yeah i have an electric bike and throttle everwhere. I lost weight by hitting the gym LOL Gojng for a ride doesnt gave to always equal exercising. I go out to enjoy my city and smell the air and socially say hello to people some times. But bitches like those yelljng out cheaters dont understand that riding an ebike or electric bike was never abojt racing people It was always about enjoying the throttle. That can cry about it
@@Mash3OH3 exactly. and if you're not using throttle, you get higher speeds with the same amount of work. or can safely push yourself harder since if you overdo it, you've got the throttle to limp your sore ass home, lol
Lock the suspension while climbing Uphill . So that can save your 30% energy and move faster without putting all your pedal stroke power on suspension and without getting tired quickly. 🙄
Then forget to unlock it at the top and wonder why the bike feels so harsh, figure it out at the bottom and start worrying that you've now damaged your suspension. Maybe that's just me haha..
@@kurotsuki7427when you have suspension, you’re turning some of the energy from your body into heat within the shock absorbers with every pedal stroke you make.
61 tomorrow still riding my older bikes. Getting back into riding shape at my age is more difficult. I would try an e-bike but not in the budget. They seem to be heavy and on a longer ride it may not be better. But on my groceries and short rides i wish I had one because of the heat. Starting in the summer out of shape and DVT I have made huge improvements in my health and overall attitude. My bikes are what pulls me out of whatever it is but I would consider one.
You'd never go back once you got a Ebike. The beauty is you can work as hard as you want with a Ebike. Certain hills are still killers and you would never stand a chance on a traditional bike.
@@stevelouie5928 literally simple as fuck lol. They complain for no reason. Was ina cab and dude seen an ebike pass and called him lazy, like bro..... You're in a fucking car.
@@stevelouie5928 I can have all the tools for repairs in a tiny back in my backpack so I can fix anything on the fly where stuff usually goes down. I don't like to work with electronics. It's flimsy and could be issues fixing it in rain, which I get a lot of. Maybe when I get old and weak I will need a motorised assisted bicycle, but I'll more then likely just buy a real motorcycle instead.
Watch a compilation vid of them spontaneously combusting you'll understand why, good luck putting one of them out if it decides to go off out on a trail.
@@corndogko1661 Na that’s just the super Mario speed kickin, the flames die down the faster you go and eventually the super speed wears off and you cool down.
Most of my friends stopped riding when three of our group had heart attacks on the bike. All in good shape but right around 60. Two of us went to Super Light e bikes, not full fat. A 60nm motor is just enough to help you out on long climbs or up technical sections. We see how much we can ride with them off, or on lowest setting. On low it makes my $6k bike, feel like I spent $13k on the top of the line carbon analog bike.
I was the middle guy of 3 going down a 200 Ft hill we had momentum when we hit the woods at the bottom. I caught a 1"-2" sapling cut off about 6" high. My bicycle stopped momentarily I"asked the guy behind me later for clarification ". Did i actually land on my left shoulder and bounce landing on my feet and catching my bicycle with my good arm? My collar bone was snapped and the parking lot was back up the 200' hill. Those two guys quit riding I took about 4-5 months to recover to ride again.I was fairly new at my company and the doctor wouldn't allow me to work. Called in 1 day luckily I started a paid month long class and no one was the wiser. I re-set the bones several times before it gets sticky.
This happened to me on my daily commute home "I was riding uphill in low gear hyperventilating, when an old woman passed me on a ladies shopping bike with a basket and some flowers sticking out, sat bolt upright ! 😐
I ride 6 to 7 days a weeks around 20 miles per ride on my e-bike in PAS 1 for assisted exercise. I’ve lost 38 pounds in about 6 months, thanks in part to diet changes and exercise. Yes diet is the most important, but you need exercise to keep up muscle and get past weight plateau. I live in a pretty hilly area and unless I was in better shape, having to ride strenuously all the time a regular bike was discouraging, not to mention I wouldn’t be able to explore. Not everyone is speeding around on e-bikes. I’m maybe 3 to 5 miles per hour faster than Normal mtb, but like 5 to 10 slower than road bikes, avg about 12 mph on flat trails, roadies litterly fly by me. DIY e-bike too it’s cheaper.
Thanks to arthritis behind my kneecaps I didn't have much choice but to get an e bike. I actually ride a lot more now hills aren't a problem. I'll never regret buying it.
@@muddyguns absolutely not an option: a) I love cycling b) My surgeon says it's good exercise for my knees as there's no twisting. c) I cycle everywhere in my job as a community support worker d) In my town cycling is (a lot) quicker than driving.
@@richardgoddard37 all I see are "my" statements. You're selfish. Too you're no longer "cycling" when you strap a motor and battery on your bike. So, you don't really love cycling...you love riding motorized bicycles. You "loved" cycling and can no longer do it. Ask your surgeon other exercises for your knees. I bet they have a few suggestions.
I don't want to get one for the fact Im going to get too attached to it with the pedal assist and I would kinda get lazy😂 I'm sticking with analog mtb'ing at the moment😂😂
@@n8_vel868 I didn’t mean because you spelled it as “mtb” I meant because you put the word analogue in front of it. There’s no such thing as an analogue mountain bike, that’s just a mountain bike
@@jarnold1789 it's kinda supposed to be a joke between electric bikes being digital and normal mountain bikes I consider analog mountain bikes in this context. I didn't make the joke it's actually from another TH-cam video💁
I have an electric mountain bike they're worth it as you get older, get bad knees or bad back. Some people think ebikes are cheating from the exercise you would get from a regular bike and I get that and in away it's true but when you're in your 50's going through trails and up hills might not be so easy. I try to use more pedaling then throttle.Having your ebike on O is almost same as riding a regular bike if not worse since ebikes tend to be heaviery. PA 1 only makes it help a little easier.
Thats me all the time. I ride an emtb and people pass me all the time. My stamina isn't there and I don't want to ride in turbo. I ride in auto or less all the time.
@@jarnold1789 you'll be amazed though how much of an exercise you can get from an emtb. Take your fingers and type it into youtube and do some research. I am never going back to a regular bike. Also I do pedal on mine or I can't go anywhere.... class 1
@@carajean206 I ride on the lowest assist mode most days, but it’s great to be able to use the power when I want and do 40 mile+ rides on my days off. People who hate on Ebikes are people that can’t afford them and are riding a cheap hard tail. I ride a basic hard tail too some days when I’m in a group mod non ebike owners, but Ebikes are just better and more fun in my opinion
Id never ride one on a trail but they make commuting a breeze. Not having to huff and puff to get moving in an intersection with cars breathing down your neck is an absolute blessing You can also choose how much exercise you get before work. On normal days I just leave it on the lowest setting that gives me a slight boost up hills but maybe Im hung over on a monday morning or have to dress nicely and cant sweat through them Ill pump it up to five so I can just lightly pedal to work.
Keep on riding. . .some spring day 1 will pass you on a climb. ..then realize they forgot to charge/battery died and that damned thing weighs 70 lbs. You will feel great as you pass them
I bought my e-bike 3 months ago, and so far I've put 1640 km on it. Best purchase I've made in years. My only complaint is the high power bikes that ppl ride at 40-50 km/h, on a trail with a 20 km/h speed limit.
155lb rider here and in ridiculous shape and do 40mile rides in the morning up and down Palomar mountain that I could never do on my regular mtbs. It just opens up more riding opportunities. It’s not a crutch unless you keep it in high power mode all the time and never push yourself
Man all these excuses as to what’s better and “doing the climb on my own strength” type thing. It paves the way to thinking like an elitist. I get passed by Super 73s or even Surrons and I never get all bent out of shape over it. Being called a cheater is such a butthurt mentally I just laugh at that shit.
You might enjoy one. It's about having fun and going exploring. I also go a lot further on an ebike and feel a lot more free. I walk many miles per day, not a fitness contest imo.
Nah bro it’s not even close to that. The whole point of mountain biking is that the bike is so light but crazy capable. Unlike a big dirt bike. Mountain bikes fit in extreme tight spaces and maneuver it’s much different ways than a dirt bike. The motor is just there as a small assist for going up hill or gaining speed. It really helps the rider go for longer and further before getting tired. If you ride them to its full capacity for a few hours it’s an awesome workout and a great fuckign time. You can pull of sketchy shit that a bigger bike would never even think of trying.
I kept getting smoked by this chick and her boyfriend and I'm literally like what the f***... There's no way a chick is that much faster than me unless she's a professional athlete... I got a better look at them they were both on e-bikes I'm like okay...
my big concern is for offroad in particular - is e-bikes allow people to ride faster than their skill level would otherwise allow. ala send it straight into a tree. BUT - it's great to see people getting exercise that wouldn't be getting it otherwise. Just be careful.
Maybe up hill, but downhill the weight of the bike helps gain more speed I think most are restricted to like 25mph a lot of riders push faster than this on a normal DH bike
@@JamieMarksify most of what I've seen is just around the local park courses, which are hybrid bmx/cx type courses, but in the woods with a tree "gently" welcoming you if you overcook a turn. 😉
They only allow people to ride faster up a hill, on the flat they're slower as you have to pedal through the motor drag above 25kph. I'm guessing you've never ridden one...🙄
My concern is the massive firework these things can potentially turn into, on trails in the middle of nowhere without fire suppression cause why would you.
Do I hate on them? No. Do I wish I had one? No. If I did, I'd buy one. I like the physical challenge of an ordinary bike. I mean, I will buy one, one day, but only when I'm too old to ride without assistance. I'm 54. If I can stay active, then I reckon I've got another 10 - 12 years yet.
True story tho. My buddy secretely rode ebikes all summer and when i finally got the chance to go ride with him (on a normal bike) he barely did a 5km before quitting on me. Completely out of shape. But what i found really funny is that just before we headed out he actually told me that ebikes are still pretty cardio. I guess he found out the hard way he was wrong. Lol
I just bought fixed fork bike (gravel one) last month. Love it. While I took a look at e-bikes, they didn't make me go "wow". There sure are some pros but there are also some cons. And I don't like the heavy bulky look of it. Anyway, I'm riding to have fun, not to be competitive against motorcycles.
Love my e-bike. It allows me to ride trails/hills that I can not ride on my analog bikes. (71% disabled FWIW) But truth be told, I think more analog riders pass me than I pass them. Also, I always slow way down when passing another rider or hiker. I stop and get off when horses are around. I don't want to lose the right to use any more trails.
that's nice of you. I wish more people had good trail etiquette. I usually see the exact opposite - bikers, e and analog - bombing past me trail running while i dive for cover. I want more single use trails so I can feel safe again like I did all winter when the softies were inside.
In my area, our trails get super muddy during the fall and winter because they have a ton of clay content, and they stay muddy for a while. Our trails are off limits to all uses with those conditions, yet some people still ride, run, and hike the mud and destroy our trails. Call people softies all you want, they probably just don't want to risk ruining the trails on the off chance that they're not completely frozen.
@@TheDustyShredder That is a fair point. Quite often ours get buried in the snow for a while in winter. I try to avoid the muddy season once it gets warmer to avoid extra erosion - I am sensitive to it. They aren't all softies - some are trying to be good stewards- but there are definitely some who are waiting for the fair weather. Plus, unless you got a fatty i'm not sure biking on snow pack that verges on ice is very fun - I've never tried it.
@@taylorlayton4508 it is sketchy for sure, lol. I definitely wiped out a couple times on some actual ice. We don't get a lot of snow very often, so when we do, I make it a point to go out and ride it once it stays for a week. By that point, it's actually quite optimally textured for grip from all the various treads. I try not to ride it when it's fresh because it could still be muddy underneath. Once it stays for about a week, I know that the ground is frozen solid and the snowpack is perfect. However, sometimes it rains a while instead, and that's when it gets sketchy because once that freezes, you've got ice slicks and those are what I wiped out on. I'm running Vittoria Mazza 2.4s, so definitely not fatties. That said, they are very grippy and shed the snow like a husky at full pace.
@@TheDustyShredder beautiful husky simile there and beautiful trail stewardship. careful with the ice - i've gone sideways myself on some black ice on the road. I wish you many dry and safe trails!
the important part is getting out for a ride. On an ebike you still pedal more than you think. It's just that you get to go further, faster, and have more fun.
@@masteroogway1586 It's actually really hard _not_ to pedal, because that's where your feet are. I used mine for trail riding in the back woods. Motor got me through some seriously swampy and rocky terrain. Got to cover 5x the distance I normally would have. Really a lot of fun
In the city it’s a real problem, reckless people on e-bikes going frequently against traffic. I witnessed someone get sent to hospital by an e bike running a red light
I ride a regular mountain bike full on Enduro and I pass e-bikers all the time it's not about how fast you go it's about how much momentum you have how much strength you have
Dude walking 100 years ago like "your horse is a dirty cheater!" It's cool if you enjoy getting the exercise and putting in the hard work, but some people just like to ride to have fun. Maybe to them it's not a contest.
me riding my friend's e bike: embarrassed that it's an e bike so i send it with my legs and give the throttle a bump at level 1 power assist. arrive back to his house with 95% battery after 12 miles. except i went full throttle at the end and it smelled like burning but he said not to worry about it... seriously though i feel like a dork.
I have both a carbon frame racer, and an aluminum framed MTB, on both I tend to pass e-bikes with significant effort I might add. But it's always nice to see, most of the people riding them are older, and not quite as fit as I am, and I love that thier ability to get out and enjoy cycling as much as I do isn't hindered.
I got a used Devinci AC for $3000 USD off of pinkbike, great condition and it came with a second set of wheels and tires. And it actually had pretty good specs too. GX drivetrain, Code RSC brakes, Fox 36 elite and DHX2 factory, and that kind of stuff.
I think are not a competition for bike but for cars. When I realized that I stopped having a problem with it. I see so many people that don’t look like they go out a lot on e bikes. Good for them!
Ebike riders are like Honda drivers they like to speed up when you go to pass them and then get mad when you can keep up with them on your 90s road bike
Spot on. Also what's up with so many people hating bikers who are on trails etc? I even slow down when I'm behind them. People are weird and like to hate..
Same effect I get by not having a car. I've saved SO much money just reinvesting a weeks worth of gas and insurance payments into an ebike that I literally don't even know what to spend money on anymore. I might actually buy a new car lol
Lol I been riding emtbs for four years and bought a normal trail bike last week, I didn't know how hard they were to pedal (I'm 46) but so nice going down weights nothing
What anyone else does is no business of yours unless they are preventing you from also freely going about your life. Let people do what they want, for fuck's sake.
Once there was a man who passed me down the hill with his seemingly new ebike going full speed while I was going slow, and I almost got a heartattack got scared so much. The man was obviously just bragging with his ebike there was no reason for him to pass me with 80 km/h when in fact the road was shitty.
When you've been out for a long ride and your arse and legs are aching, the feeling of the peddle assist pulling you home is sheer bliss, I could never go back to normal bike.
I love the challenge of a good technical climb! Not tempted at all. I do get it for those who ride Bike Parks with no shuttle service. Or people that just don't wanna climb. To each their own!
@@jonthecont good luck riding an ebike on bike trails. It’s a motorized vehicle. Same as a ICE bike, just using semantics to fool oneself into thinking it’s not. No worries, the enviro-nazis will eventually close down whatever trails you enjoy with ebikes first, then soon after MTN bikes will also be banned. Happens out here in Montana all the time. They just tried to close down the remaining 10% of bike trails/OHV areas whilst shrieking,”you need to compromise! Why will you not cOmProMisE?!” Well…you’ve closed down 90% of all the trails since the 90s…when are you going to open up more trails as a compromise, since that’s exactly how the word is supposed to work.
@@downbytheriver501 not in the uk! I can ride any trail or bike park. If I came on a moto cross bike the police would be called. Mx is hated here in uk even in green lanes. Can go anywhere on my e-bike
I used to have an old wallmart bike that was made out of steel. My parents wouldn’t allow me to put a motor in it but when I saw a trick that made your seat up higher I passed people on the trails. But the suspension was ass.
Wats messed up, is i was/is an avid bike rider, but this last year my sciatica has been practically crippling me.. thats the whole inspiration that got me to spend that kind of $. And i love it. I can ride all day and not hurt myself
Hey man little tip for ya. The shocks have a lockout for a reason and climbing a hill is that reason. Lock out your front forks makes climbing way easier
Well I ride to lower body fat while enjoying myself, e bike would negate everything, exhibit a here is a lard ball as you can see, could do with the cardio 😂😂
Lol you only burn a slightly less amount of calories. People like you really do not understand the concept of calories or fitness, but try and talk like they actually know anything. I bet you're the type of person to fall into some fad super-diet.
For me it depends on the type of e-bike. I personally absolutely despise the folding ones because they sh*t the bed in a heatbeat. I got one yesterday and I had to wrestle with all of my strength to fold it and then it wouldn’t turn on. Then the front tire was all messed up. So I immediately threw it in the dumpster and it’s gone now. I’m not gonna even bother selling it, because I’d rather not stress anyone out who is dumb enough to buy it. It just needs to be destroyed at a recycling center. Never again. I’m still really angry about that. However, I do love the non folding fat tire E-bikes with the battery on the frame instead of inside of it. Those work like a charm!
One day, I was riding my e-bike, Rad Runner Plus from Rad Power Bikes(I highly recommend them) and I was riding through the streets of San Francisco, Mission district for you locals, and there was this old chubbier white dude why was peddling his own bike. Back then the bike lanes were off onto the shoulders of Valencia street. My bike is capped out at 20 mph and I was just peddling and cruising through the street. The guy took a notice of it and immediately started riding aggressively around me, like he literally pedaled up to my side and tried cutting me off and literally do what is mocked in this short. By the time I got to 16th street he caught up to me and started swearing at me. I straight up turn to him and loudly said “hey I’m just trying to get to work.” Never saw him or heard from him again, I normally don’t like wishing ill wills but I wouldn’t mind if someone had hit him or anything. Point is he won’t be missed, oh yeah he wasn’t wearing a helmet. I remember talking about it at work and was thinking “I’m sorry that I have a bike that is electronically assisted compared to him. At that point it’s his ego that’s talking and he think a bike is a a bike if you pedal with no assistance and it is a motorcycle once there’s a motor attached to it. I remember thinking that at some point there will be more complications since people are more often than not reckless than they realize. That is not their faults, but rather they never been properly instructed on the rule of the road. As a licensed Driver, I know the rules of what to do and what not to do on the road. Simple as that. However kids don’t know these laws because for most of us who do ride bikes it’s essentially treated like a skateboard, roller skates/blades, and a unicycle. It’s a means for quicker transportation that’s not a car and not walking. Both of which just doesn’t happen overnight, it’s practice. Once someone gets the hang of riding a bike, they’ll ride it everywhere and there’s no law on where you can or can’t take your bike, besides trespassing. However San Francisco has been repaving their roads to dedicate space for bike lanes. Because we all know how selfish car drivers are when it comes to sharing the damn road. If we’re going to ban e bikes, then we should start banning cars too, since all these means of transportation are harmful and unsafe. How stupid does the government think we are, pretty damn stupid, and we’re constantly adding more reasons to justify their claims. Good job America.
Annoying to me when I am riding the paved bike trails with my little dog running beside me and some 90 year old on an e-moped blast by me at like 45 mph.😡
I hate to break it to you, but most people don't understand the beauty of climbing. I don't have a natural climber's body, but the rhythm and magic of an extremely long uphill can't be beaten.
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"I wish i had one"
I wish i had a full suspension💀
Man i bougjt my first full suspect yesterday. Feels like a dream
Still saving for mine
Nah hardtail peak mtb 🤙
@@Melonator13 i prefer hardtails too
I wish I have a cycle
I commute about 300 miles a week on mine. Every time someone bitches about how I cheating I ask how many calories they're burning driving to work.
And what's more, based on data from my power meter, you only burn 30% less calories on an ebike vs non-assisted cycling.
@@AndrewEblingwhat's really nice is you burn as many calories as you need to!
The reality of using a bike for commuting is that you might be late, you might be tired, there might be any number of reasons you're behind. And an ebike helps you with that. Especially if you want to flow with city traffic better.
I will say for city street use at some point we do need some kind of safety course requirement or license.
@@tanakax25I had to ride a normal bike up 3 giant hills to get to and from work in the middle of the night as a teenager. I got into insanely good shape, and was proud of my ability, but if I had the option for an e-bike I would've taken it in a heartbeat 😂 Showing up to work sweaty and already tired sucks. And then having to grind your way all the way back home after an 8 hour shift sucks even worse
@@GlorifiedGremlin right! I love biking, but I'm not up for that EVERY DAY. And even when I think I am up for it, I get a shitty day that tires me out.. or I'm late coming in, or the wind is against me, or I have to tackle a couple hills like you said.
My favorite part of having an ebike right now is going through grass fields since my area doesn't have many bike trails. I just roll over bumpy tall grass fields with ease. On my normal MTB that would be EXHAUSTING
Yeah bikes are a good time I usually enjoy my commute
Morning cardio and all that
Usually the only thing that sucks is leaving early. Also do you commute in rain on your ebike? If so, what kind
Having epilepsy, I'm not allowed a driving license. My ebike is an absolute God-send.
Same situation for me except I got a decently made E-scooter. License got taken 8 years ago, and I've always had that serious 'wanderlust' since I was taught to ride a gas dirtbike by the time I was a few months shy of my 5th birthday (since apparently I had 'mastered' riding a regular bicycle w/o any training wheels just after turning 3yrs). But back to the Epilepsy issue, because of always having the itch to simply explore anywhere and everywhere, I became rather depressed; the feeling of being stuck in a minimum security prison, or having to be on a house arrest perhaps, had been taking a toll on my sense of freedom and general happiness. Walking, taking public transportation, and even riding a traditional bicycle just wasn't cutting it for me in the area I live. Bought the electric scooter last year and even with just a 24mph/38kph top speed, and about a 40 mile range (in 'ECO' Mode), though I get approximately a more realistic 20-25 mile range since I can't keep my heavy thumb out of the throttle. It brings a simple happiness into my days that no damn antidepressants could ever come close to doing for me. I've been looking to upgrade though and can't decide between an E-bike or a new scooter I've had my eye on that is twice as beefy as my current ride. Anyway, glad to see another 'flopper' here making a comment that reflects the same sentiment and reasoning as myself. Carpe Diem
Thats still a danger to others
@@Mike-oxlong1029how do you figure? Are we not allowed to go anywhere or do anything? Heck I have active seizures and still have a drivers license hows that make you feel 😂
@@Mike-oxlong1029something that would be much better is all cars have an interlock device for drunk drivers. Driving is not a right so we shouldn't even make it possible for someone to start a street legal vehicle while drunk. Only exceptions would be driving on your own property for work and most people don't have land like that anyway so the farmers would be fine and everyone else would be far safer. Honestly we're in the worst times for transportation, too late for horses and too early for all self driving cars. It's just like elevators used to have a driver's and everyone was scared to trust the automatic ones over someone controlling it when it's been proven countless times that we are terrible at everything we do when compared to computers and processing information efficiently. All self-driving cars should be their own independent entity though to make it extremely difficult to hack someone's car or even say you break a law and your car automatically takes you to the police station or something haha
Hell I'm 29 and to get a car in payments is just way out of my budget and I can't save enough money to buy a decent vehicle I wouldn't have to put money into that I don't have right now I commute with e scooter can't wait to save enough for an e bike .
I'm riding for the fun not for the pain.. e-bike it is. :D
💯
the whole fun of riding is the fact that you're getting a great workout and getting to your location tho!. Not to mention people who get E bikes generally little-> No trail etiquette or knowledge (especially new immigrants who take their ENTIRE family pf 4-6 as a group , on their brand new 4k$ bikes and go down the trails as slow as possible....and just stand in groups randomly around corners... I've crashed into these groups over 3 times in 2021 alone on mt.Seymour.. on one occasion i almost knocked a child off the edge of a small embankment because his parents were lwtting his walk along the ladder ramps like a damn jungle gym... If I didn't bail and jump off of the 10' high track I was on I would have hit the kid Is going 15 km an hour and he would have fallen down and possibly broken his neck or back as there were logs below us down about 12-13ft.. and then a steeo embankment.. he must have been maybe 7 years old if that. So I had to literally jump off my bike and let myself and my bike fall 12' into a bushy area because there was no way I could slow down in time to avoid the child as to not give him serious concussion or throw him or knock him off the ladder bridge. This has never happened before with anyone on the mountain let alone a child with parents. and I live in the Northwest of British Columbia where mountain biking is 1 of the most popular things you can do here Aside from water sports and mountain climbing/hiking. they're kind of ruining it for the people who ride actual mountain bikes under their own power without those obnoxious2steoke bolt on motors or ebikes... As soon as they get to the bottom of the hill they pack up their bikes as quick as possible and drive out of there as not to be ridiculed by the dozens of other actual mountain bikers hanging out in the parking lot having a good time bonding over the difficult but fulfilling ride they just had... they're definitely not seen as part of the community that's for sure. I'm not saying ebikes can't be fun I'm just saying All of this could be resolved if we just put up some signs reminding people on ebikes not to congregate on actual trails and that people not riding ebikes are much more silent and you're not gonna hear me coming down a trail when I'm going 40km an hour fast enough for you to move out of the way in time if you're just standing there gawking at the trees like an idiot with your $4000 digital camera... Or if we actually had effective park Rangers who understood the safety hazards these travelers and foreigners cause when they come onto our bike parks and and trails thinking it's some simple recreation area when in fact you could get severely injured or kill yourself ( While it is unlikely it's certainly possible I've had 2 or 3 friends severely injured going off jumps and landing wrong including 2 of which that had punctured lungs as well as one with a broken forearm that had exposed bone... if you get in the way of someone coming down a hillfull speed.. YOUR the danger and the reason for a crash. there is no speed limit on the trail. but our signs arnt in mandarin or farsi so they dont understand the danger or rules for safety...
My bad I definitely got off subject don't get me wrong I think e bikes are really cool I just think the last place anyone should be allowed to or should be riding them at all is on a actual downhill trail.. If you keep them on the roads I couldnt care less about ppl riding them. even then though people who ride bicycles on the road rarely obey traffic laws and go through red lights all the time..but that's a whole different story though and a whole different type of stupid.
@@Curtis.Carpenter I will not read your wall of text.
I was speaking about me. Me. Not you and neither anybody else.
@@Curtis.Carpenter no need to write a whole essay on TH-cam lol
There are still e bikes that you exercise with. Pedal assists are a thing, making you faster or having greated distances.
Once I passed a group of older roadies going up a hill. I was testing out my friends e-bike, and they all called me a cheater. Little did they know it wasn't even turned on, so I was carrying an extra 10+ kilos up the hill...
Bro 💀
That’s the definition of never judge a book by its cover
Knowing e-bikes are around 22.5kg, that's impressive. Just imagine u were on the road bike, now that's unfair😂😂
Same thing here. Guy called out "Cheater!", and my e-bike was turned off 🤔
Nobody is bothered though
Mtb bikers dislike road bikers on the road.mtb biker dislike emtb biker on uphill.hikers dislike mtb bikers.if someone ask me to choose only one,i i wanna choose emtb.
People need to remember that some of us are disabled and worn out. Biking isn't just about exercise. Sometimes we just want to get outside and cruise around in nature...
Facts
@@R2D2arthurge💯
It’s nobodies business also
❤❤🎉😊facts
I rode mountain bikes all my life.The last few years I noticed I was riding less and less.Bought my electric mountain bike and ride more now than ever before.I’m 66 and still pedal every mile. But it is so much more enjoyable and I get up ready to ride daily!
Thats the magic of ebikes, its not just about making it easier but about going faster more time; more fun more happiness.
yes I love my ebike.I have done nearly 1000 miles since January.I have just bought myself a full suspension ebike to go with my hardtail ebike, they are amazing
So isn't my dirt bike.
@@markmistretta01
Go on then. Rider your shitty dirt bike instead of complaining. Except that shit is noisy and a menace to the public. While the ebike is silent and people wouldnt bat and eye about it.
Your retarded comparison is stupid. Youre compare a 2 or 4 stroke to an electric motor that uses magnets and silent as hell that produces no emissions and still light enough to be picked up and taken inside your home.
Talaria or surrons those are more dirtbikes than ebikes cause theyre designed and look similar to dirt bikes
This is me. Im convinced i'll finally get back to biking if i get one.
Be proud that you can still get up a hill under your own power.
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@@4lalaKitty yo go back to knocking on doors tf you doin here
@@4lalaKitty Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil; for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me. Jesus Christ is first.
@@4lalaKitty Happy birthday, oh shit right, your leader says no💀 Your are the reason why loser has an L in it
I find that PA level 1 on my ebike gives just enough power to compensate for the added weight, giving a performance that's pretty comparable to a regular bike. If I can do it on PA 1, I can do it on a regular bike.
I would like to have an electric bike but the satisfaction after having made a climb with my strength is something indescribable
You can ride it how you want with or without power your bike your choice 🤓
You can put the same effort in as a standard pedal bike, but you just go further and faster for the same energy.
And it makes you choose the ebike for many journeys that you wouldn't have time to do on the pedal bike.
@@penskib1975 but you go faster uphill so it’s not the same effort
@@tylersnow75 You can choose to put the same effort in. Mine on 1 only compensates for the extra weight of the ebike. And it doesn't compensate for me and the boy on the back (i have a seat on the back).
I use low power levels normally and put a lot of effort in, but if I need to be somewhere at a certain time I will make it if I push the power up.
Otherwise you would choose the car as the time limit would be impossible on a ordinary bike.
Have both
I get great enjoyment of passing a ebike on my non ebike
I bet that happens soooo often.
Actually do that too it's so fun😂
Real talk!!💪🏽I got my Chevrolegs!!
I get the odd guy trying to beat my e-bike while I'm just cruising along not even trying to race them back.
Wouldn't pass me mine does over 60mph see ya
I ride an e-bike everyday to school purely just because I can’t take the bus and it’s a 2 mile walk. It’s fun, it’s so worth the money if you get a good brand.
Are there hills? That’s easy enough on the heaviest pedal bike
Same
Whenever I pass someone on a trail with my e-bike, I always say, “Cheater coming through!”
I've never been envious of weaklings, nor i hate them
I’m 68 years old. Most people are very gracious.
@Joe Joe I've lost well over 100 pounds, still use my E-bike. Mid drive just means I can put the same amount of effort in and go *that much faster* up a hill.*
@@DFX2KX
Yeah i have an electric bike and throttle everwhere. I lost weight by hitting the gym LOL
Gojng for a ride doesnt gave to always equal exercising. I go out to enjoy my city and smell the air and socially say hello to people some times.
But bitches like those yelljng out cheaters dont understand that riding an ebike or electric bike was never abojt racing people
It was always about enjoying the throttle. That can cry about it
@@Mash3OH3 exactly. and if you're not using throttle, you get higher speeds with the same amount of work. or can safely push yourself harder since if you overdo it, you've got the throttle to limp your sore ass home, lol
Lock the suspension while climbing Uphill . So that can save your 30% energy and move faster without putting all your pedal stroke power on suspension and without getting tired quickly. 🙄
Then forget to unlock it at the top and wonder why the bike feels so harsh, figure it out at the bottom and start worrying that you've now damaged your suspension. Maybe that's just me haha..
@@dylan-5287 Yes only you
I will admit i understand none of that. But i have a single speed bike so thats probably why.
@@kurotsuki7427when you have suspension, you’re turning some of the energy from your body into heat within the shock absorbers with every pedal stroke you make.
I lock mine it still kills me going up the hills and I'm not that unfit
The real thing that should be Illegal is the eBike prices. 10k for a bike that would be 4k if it weren't an eBike.
I'll take that a step further, no standard mountain bike should cost 4k in the first place.
good news everyone, YT is selling decent Emtb’s for $3500
61 tomorrow still riding my older bikes. Getting back into riding shape at my age is more difficult. I would try an e-bike but not in the budget. They seem to be heavy and on a longer ride it may not be better. But on my groceries and short rides i wish I had one because of the heat. Starting in the summer out of shape and DVT I have made huge improvements in my health and overall attitude. My bikes are what pulls me out of whatever it is but I would consider one.
Good for you keep at it!
Get one your won't believe how cool they are and you get more of a workout than the peddle bike trust me.
Get one on a payment plan.🎉😂❤
You'd never go back once you got a Ebike. The beauty is you can work as hard as you want with a Ebike. Certain hills are still killers and you would never stand a chance on a traditional bike.
I got smoked by an e-bike on my fixie, then I caught up 10 mins later, the guy was walking it back because it died on him. lol
mmm ya then you woke up and realized your life was a bad dream.
@@Hot_Topic lol
@@Hot_Topic he should have at least pedaled a little. Haha
@@Hot_Topic wow you sound like you hate life that much you project onto others...
You can still use it as a normal bike once the battery is drained bad attempt at a lie
Nah, I neither want to ban or want one. I mean, maybe when I'm older, but I am glad to see anyone ride
Good attitude to have
nope. i like my gravity missile
I understand, but wouldn't it be cool to ride that long down hill section you enjoy more than one or two times in a day? How does 5 or 6 times sound?
Something about getting up a hill with your own strength is just an amazing feeling
You can turn the motor off and use it like a analog bike. The reason ebikes are so amazing is it gives unfit people the confidence to get home.
@@niblet112 analog bike? Just say normal bike.
I love my ebike. Helps with my knee pain
I prefer the simplicity of a normal bicycle that I'm able to fix myself
Ebikes are actually pretty simple. Just a bike with a motor and battery.
@@stevelouie5928 literally simple as fuck lol. They complain for no reason. Was ina cab and dude seen an ebike pass and called him lazy, like bro..... You're in a fucking car.
I fixed any and everything that needed repair on my e-bikes. It’s not much different than a “normal” bicycle. Just a couple of wires and a battery.
@@stevelouie5928 I can have all the tools for repairs in a tiny back in my backpack so I can fix anything on the fly where stuff usually goes down. I don't like to work with electronics. It's flimsy and could be issues fixing it in rain, which I get a lot of. Maybe when I get old and weak I will need a motorised assisted bicycle, but I'll more then likely just buy a real motorcycle instead.
the only additional things I carry are a set of wire-cutters and some electrical tape. which I had anyway for things like brake lines.
The Karen's of the mb world.
I actually don’t, defeats the purpose of a bicycle along with its lightness and simplicity
This is beyond so true. Never had anyone ride my ebike and not smile.
through my local trails there’s signs that say ebikes are banned and I see them up there every time
Watch a compilation vid of them spontaneously combusting you'll understand why, good luck putting one of them out if it decides to go off out on a trail.
@@corndogko1661 Na that’s just the super Mario speed kickin, the flames die down the faster you go and eventually the super speed wears off and you cool down.
Saw this one dude on an e-bike pass me 3 times on a climb
That's the beauty. More time outside and more fun.
Most of my friends stopped riding when three of our group had heart attacks on the bike. All in good shape but right around 60. Two of us went to Super Light e bikes, not full fat. A 60nm motor is just enough to help you out on long climbs or up technical sections. We see how much we can ride with them off, or on lowest setting. On low it makes my $6k bike, feel like I spent $13k on the top of the line carbon analog bike.
I was the middle guy of 3 going down a 200 Ft hill we had momentum when we hit the woods at the bottom. I caught a 1"-2" sapling cut off about 6" high. My bicycle stopped momentarily I"asked the guy behind me later for clarification ". Did i actually land on my left shoulder and bounce landing on my feet and catching my bicycle with my good arm? My collar bone was snapped and the parking lot was back up the 200' hill. Those two guys quit riding I took about 4-5 months to recover to ride again.I was fairly new at my company and the doctor wouldn't allow me to work. Called in 1 day luckily I started a paid month long class and no one was the wiser. I re-set the bones several times before it gets sticky.
In my country you could buy a decent SUV if you convert 6000$.💀
I hate them on my trail because most of them go way too fast with super thick tires on a flat trail so they just kick up massive amounts of dust
Well for transport not to show off on trails or road!
Where should we show off then?
This happened to me on my daily commute home "I was riding uphill in low gear hyperventilating, when an old woman passed me on a ladies shopping bike with a basket and some flowers sticking out, sat bolt upright ! 😐
I ride 6 to 7 days a weeks around 20 miles per ride on my e-bike in PAS 1 for assisted exercise. I’ve lost 38 pounds in about 6 months, thanks in part to diet changes and exercise. Yes diet is the most important, but you need exercise to keep up muscle and get past weight plateau. I live in a pretty hilly area and unless I was in better shape, having to ride strenuously all the time a regular bike was discouraging, not to mention I wouldn’t be able to explore. Not everyone is speeding around on e-bikes. I’m maybe 3 to 5 miles per hour faster than Normal mtb, but like 5 to 10 slower than road bikes, avg about 12 mph on flat trails, roadies litterly fly by me. DIY e-bike too it’s cheaper.
That's two forms of me riding my ebike and non ebike side by side lol
Thanks to arthritis behind my kneecaps I didn't have much choice but to get an e bike. I actually ride a lot more now hills aren't a problem. I'll never regret buying it.
Exactly!
Same
Stop riding, then. Your body is telling you to stop. Also, the torque from the ebike destroys trails. More TQs than ICE motorcycles.
@@muddyguns absolutely not an option:
a) I love cycling
b) My surgeon says it's good exercise for my knees as there's no twisting.
c) I cycle everywhere in my job as a community support worker
d) In my town cycling is (a lot) quicker than driving.
@@richardgoddard37 all I see are "my" statements. You're selfish. Too you're no longer "cycling" when you strap a motor and battery on your bike. So, you don't really love cycling...you love riding motorized bicycles. You "loved" cycling and can no longer do it.
Ask your surgeon other exercises for your knees. I bet they have a few suggestions.
I don't want to get one for the fact Im going to get too attached to it with the pedal assist and I would kinda get lazy😂 I'm sticking with analog mtb'ing at the moment😂😂
You mean mountain biking
@@jarnold1789 yes. I don't know why I spelled it like that🤦💀
@@n8_vel868 I didn’t mean because you spelled it as “mtb” I meant because you put the word analogue in front of it. There’s no such thing as an analogue mountain bike, that’s just a mountain bike
@@jarnold1789 it's kinda supposed to be a joke between electric bikes being digital and normal mountain bikes I consider analog mountain bikes in this context. I didn't make the joke it's actually from another TH-cam video💁
You may be able to zoom past us, but…
We will always have stronger legs
Cool 😂
Nope
yeah no, u havent seen me haul ass on the ebike up a hill once im past the assistance speed
I have an electric mountain bike they're worth it as you get older, get bad knees or bad back. Some people think ebikes are cheating from the exercise you would get from a regular bike and I get that and in away it's true but when you're in your 50's going through trails and up hills might not be so easy. I try to use more pedaling then throttle.Having your ebike on O is almost same as riding a regular bike if not worse since ebikes tend to be heaviery. PA 1 only makes it help a little easier.
I was Right behind a ebike last week on my 1000$ hard tail going up hill bet he thought wtf
Thats me all the time. I ride an emtb and people pass me all the time. My stamina isn't there and I don't want to ride in turbo. I ride in auto or less all the time.
@@carajean206 Get a bicycle and pedal, you’ll be amazed how good of shape you’ll get in
@@jarnold1789 you'll be amazed though how much of an exercise you can get from an emtb. Take your fingers and type it into youtube and do some research. I am never going back to a regular bike. Also I do pedal on mine or I can't go anywhere.... class 1
@@carajean206 You must be an old geriatric so hey good for you for still getting outside
@@carajean206 I ride on the lowest assist mode most days, but it’s great to be able to use the power when I want and do 40 mile+ rides on my days off. People who hate on Ebikes are people that can’t afford them and are riding a cheap hard tail. I ride a basic hard tail too some days when I’m in a group mod non ebike owners, but Ebikes are just better and more fun in my opinion
Id never ride one on a trail but they make commuting a breeze. Not having to huff and puff to get moving in an intersection with cars breathing down your neck is an absolute blessing
You can also choose how much exercise you get before work. On normal days I just leave it on the lowest setting that gives me a slight boost up hills but maybe Im hung over on a monday morning or have to dress nicely and cant sweat through them Ill pump it up to five so I can just lightly pedal to work.
I see a lot of elderly people riding e bikes and they are going a lot faster than young bikers. I guess Darwin will deal wit it.
Only og’s know that this is a repost
Yea
@@sandraf425 Garbage e-waste products that will be obsolete in a few years
Keep on riding. . .some spring day 1 will pass you on a climb. ..then realize they forgot to charge/battery died and that damned thing weighs 70 lbs. You will feel great as you pass them
lmao if that is the moment you are waiting then this video is for you
Anyone who rides an EBike knows to take precautions to not let this happen. Nice lie
That’s Ok, let them have their fun, I’ll just remain at 20mph with the ocasional sprint to 30 mph on my old CAAD 10…
Folks don't know CAAD
i can go 3 mph downhill on a good mountain bike
I bought my e-bike 3 months ago, and so far I've put 1640 km on it. Best purchase I've made in years. My only complaint is the high power bikes that ppl ride at 40-50 km/h, on a trail with a 20 km/h speed limit.
Personally, I won’t get one. Something about making the climb on my own. Now if I was 250lbs and out of shape…
155lb rider here and in ridiculous shape and do 40mile rides in the morning up and down Palomar mountain that I could never do on my regular mtbs. It just opens up more riding opportunities. It’s not a crutch unless you keep it in high power mode all the time and never push yourself
Man all these excuses as to what’s better and “doing the climb on my own strength” type thing. It paves the way to thinking like an elitist.
I get passed by Super 73s or even Surrons and I never get all bent out of shape over it.
Being called a cheater is such a butthurt mentally I just laugh at that shit.
@@Mash3OH3 💯👍🏻
You might enjoy one. It's about having fun and going exploring. I also go a lot further on an ebike and feel a lot more free. I walk many miles per day, not a fitness contest imo.
@@KF1 💯 Couldn't agree more!
Look mountain bikes are super cool but if they got that battery might as well just do Moto cross that’s what I would do anyway
As far as I know, most ebike motors are weaker than the ones used in Bird scooters, quite a bit below motocross bikes.
Nah bro it’s not even close to that. The whole point of mountain biking is that the bike is so light but crazy capable. Unlike a big dirt bike. Mountain bikes fit in extreme tight spaces and maneuver it’s much different ways than a dirt bike. The motor is just there as a small assist for going up hill or gaining speed. It really helps the rider go for longer and further before getting tired. If you ride them to its full capacity for a few hours it’s an awesome workout and a great fuckign time. You can pull of sketchy shit that a bigger bike would never even think of trying.
@@Lazer-yi6qg *laughs in trials and tw200*
Dirty noisy motor cycles. 😮😂
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I kept getting smoked by this chick and her boyfriend and I'm literally like what the f***... There's no way a chick is that much faster than me unless she's a professional athlete... I got a better look at them they were both on e-bikes I'm like okay...
Some ebikes are stealth looking with motor & thin inframe battery!@😮😊
my big concern is for offroad in particular - is e-bikes allow people to ride faster than their skill level would otherwise allow. ala send it straight into a tree. BUT - it's great to see people getting exercise that wouldn't be getting it otherwise. Just be careful.
Maybe up hill, but downhill the weight of the bike helps gain more speed I think most are restricted to like 25mph a lot of riders push faster than this on a normal DH bike
@@JamieMarksify most of what I've seen is just around the local park courses, which are hybrid bmx/cx type courses, but in the woods with a tree "gently" welcoming you if you overcook a turn. 😉
@@JeffBurns they take some pursuading to get them to change direction quickly thsys for sure mate haha
They only allow people to ride faster up a hill, on the flat they're slower as you have to pedal through the motor drag above 25kph. I'm guessing you've never ridden one...🙄
My concern is the massive firework these things can potentially turn into, on trails in the middle of nowhere without fire suppression cause why would you.
Do I hate on them? No. Do I wish I had one? No. If I did, I'd buy one. I like the physical challenge of an ordinary bike. I mean, I will buy one, one day, but only when I'm too old to ride without assistance. I'm 54. If I can stay active, then I reckon I've got another 10 - 12 years yet.
True story tho. My buddy secretely rode ebikes all summer and when i finally got the chance to go ride with him (on a normal bike) he barely did a 5km before quitting on me. Completely out of shape. But what i found really funny is that just before we headed out he actually told me that ebikes are still pretty cardio. I guess he found out the hard way he was wrong. Lol
I want a portable EMP device to fry every ebike that tries to pass me.
I just bought fixed fork bike (gravel one) last month. Love it. While I took a look at e-bikes, they didn't make me go "wow". There sure are some pros but there are also some cons. And I don't like the heavy bulky look of it.
Anyway, I'm riding to have fun, not to be competitive against motorcycles.
Love my e-bike. It allows me to ride trails/hills that I can not ride on my analog bikes. (71% disabled FWIW) But truth be told, I think more analog riders pass me than I pass them. Also, I always slow way down when passing another rider or hiker. I stop and get off when horses are around. I don't want to lose the right to use any more trails.
that's nice of you. I wish more people had good trail etiquette. I usually see the exact opposite - bikers, e and analog - bombing past me trail running while i dive for cover.
I want more single use trails so I can feel safe again like I did all winter when the softies were inside.
In my area, our trails get super muddy during the fall and winter because they have a ton of clay content, and they stay muddy for a while. Our trails are off limits to all uses with those conditions, yet some people still ride, run, and hike the mud and destroy our trails. Call people softies all you want, they probably just don't want to risk ruining the trails on the off chance that they're not completely frozen.
@@TheDustyShredder That is a fair point. Quite often ours get buried in the snow for a while in winter. I try to avoid the muddy season once it gets warmer to avoid extra erosion - I am sensitive to it.
They aren't all softies - some are trying to be good stewards- but there are definitely some who are waiting for the fair weather. Plus, unless you got a fatty i'm not sure biking on snow pack that verges on ice is very fun - I've never tried it.
@@taylorlayton4508 it is sketchy for sure, lol. I definitely wiped out a couple times on some actual ice. We don't get a lot of snow very often, so when we do, I make it a point to go out and ride it once it stays for a week. By that point, it's actually quite optimally textured for grip from all the various treads. I try not to ride it when it's fresh because it could still be muddy underneath. Once it stays for about a week, I know that the ground is frozen solid and the snowpack is perfect. However, sometimes it rains a while instead, and that's when it gets sketchy because once that freezes, you've got ice slicks and those are what I wiped out on.
I'm running Vittoria Mazza 2.4s, so definitely not fatties. That said, they are very grippy and shed the snow like a husky at full pace.
@@TheDustyShredder beautiful husky simile there and beautiful trail stewardship.
careful with the ice - i've gone sideways myself on some black ice on the road. I wish you many dry and safe trails!
“ I wish i had one” Well yes but at least you have proper fitness
the important part is getting out for a ride. On an ebike you still pedal more than you think. It's just that you get to go further, faster, and have more fun.
@@KF1 no you pedal for twenty seconds and it does the work for you i dont think they need to be banned though
@@masteroogway1586 yeah the motor is a huge help. That's what makes them awesome.
@@masteroogway1586 It's actually really hard _not_ to pedal, because that's where your feet are. I used mine for trail riding in the back woods. Motor got me through some seriously swampy and rocky terrain. Got to cover 5x the distance I normally would have. Really a lot of fun
@@masteroogway1586 shows how clueless you are then about them.
In the city it’s a real problem, reckless people on e-bikes going frequently against traffic. I witnessed someone get sent to hospital by an e bike running a red light
I ride a regular mountain bike full on Enduro and I pass e-bikers all the time it's not about how fast you go it's about how much momentum you have how much strength you have
The only mtbs that pass me are the hard core twenty-something crowd and those I allow to pass me.
A skilled regular mountain biker would destroy an untrained ebiker down a difficult downhill.
@@stevenleslie8557 lol
@@stevelouie5928 what about a skilled e-biker
E-bikes are fine if you don't want to earn your elevation. Some of us believe the brutal climb up is half the fun
Dude walking 100 years ago like "your horse is a dirty cheater!"
It's cool if you enjoy getting the exercise and putting in the hard work, but some people just like to ride to have fun. Maybe to them it's not a contest.
@@KF1 whatever floats your boat.
Low IQ take
I own a hardtail and a emtb full suspension both worlds are awesome but my emtb alllows me do more downhills
Been watching your videos, very funny plus you a damn good rider.
Lock out your rear suspension. You'll find a hard tail is better for going up hill
Yes you're right. I can lockout the full suspension. Than ride uphill as a hard tail. 😊
I passed 3 ebikes on my v twin 2 stroke RGV250 powered mountain bike yesterday, left them in a cloud of blue smoke ! 😳😁⚠️😲
Jesus Christ!! Thats a lot of motor for an mtb.
I've ridden rgvs and they went like shit off a shovel.
me riding my friend's e bike: embarrassed that it's an e bike so i send it with my legs and give the throttle a bump at level 1 power assist. arrive back to his house with 95% battery after 12 miles. except i went full throttle at the end and it smelled like burning but he said not to worry about it... seriously though i feel like a dork.
I have both a carbon frame racer, and an aluminum framed MTB, on both I tend to pass e-bikes with significant effort I might add.
But it's always nice to see, most of the people riding them are older, and not quite as fit as I am, and I love that thier ability to get out and enjoy cycling as much as I do isn't hindered.
Its true thou people who say that do want one,, I used to be one of them until I got one lol
Mountain bikers are angry at everyone😂 you should make a video about when they get passed by a dirtbike
True why are they hating
I had a guy cussing at me for having a ebike on the trails but I'm just fast and know how to use my gears. No ebike. Too broke
I mostly hate them because so many riders on an e-bike are super inexperienced and reckless on trails.
honestly i wish i had one too, but damn they are expensive
I got a used Devinci AC for $3000 USD off of pinkbike, great condition and it came with a second set of wheels and tires. And it actually had pretty good specs too. GX drivetrain, Code RSC brakes, Fox 36 elite and DHX2 factory, and that kind of stuff.
I don’t get it. You can buy brand new dirt bikes for the price if these e-bikes
@@cc3775 not everyone is old enough to drive one
Just lease 1.😊
@@cc3775 i see where ur coming from but a dirt bike cant be taken on the path or most roads legally
At least he didn’t slow down and try to have a conversation with you
I've seen riders pass me on trails like they were on an ebike and they weren't. Some people are just way more fit than others.
I think are not a competition for bike but for cars. When I realized that I stopped having a problem with it.
I see so many people that don’t look like they go out a lot on e bikes. Good for them!
Ebike riders are like Honda drivers they like to speed up when you go to pass them and then get mad when you can keep up with them on your 90s road bike
Cope, caveman
Spot on. Also what's up with so many people hating bikers who are on trails etc? I even slow down when I'm behind them. People are weird and like to hate..
Because the torque of the ebike destroys trails. More TQs than an ICE motorcycle
Same effect I get by not having a car.
I've saved SO much money just reinvesting a weeks worth of gas and insurance payments into an ebike that I literally don't even know what to spend money on anymore. I might actually buy a new car lol
I don't want them banned. I just think I should be legally allowed to throw a broom handle at the wheel when they're going at obnoxiously speeds 🤷♂️
Lol I been riding emtbs for four years and bought a normal trail bike last week, I didn't know how hard they were to pedal (I'm 46) but so nice going down weights nothing
I'm just about to do the same.. can't wait for the downs on the lighter bike
I just feel that the ride up should also be a part of working to the fun it should not be skipped
What anyone else does is no business of yours unless they are preventing you from also freely going about your life. Let people do what they want, for fuck's sake.
Once there was a man who passed me down the hill with his seemingly new ebike going full speed while I was going slow, and I almost got a heartattack got scared so much. The man was obviously just bragging with his ebike there was no reason for him to pass me with 80 km/h when in fact the road was shitty.
I got a mountain bike for mountain biking. I got an e bike to make my beer runs to town easier.
When you've been out for a long ride and your arse and legs are aching, the feeling of the peddle assist pulling you home is sheer bliss, I could never go back to normal bike.
Sometimes I ride my ebike raw. And take out the battery
Hard mode biking
Now why would you want to do that?
I agree with banning ebikes on trails and I've never desired to have one not ever. they take away from your workout and they are only for grifters.
It's a bicycle with a motor so that means it's a motorized vehicle.
I love the challenge of a good technical climb! Not tempted at all. I do get it for those who ride Bike Parks with no shuttle service. Or people that just don't wanna climb. To each their own!
Your health is not guaranteed.
The day i think about an engine in a bike i Will buy a MX or a cool scrambler
Good luck riding that on bike trails
@@jonthecont good luck riding an ebike on bike trails. It’s a motorized vehicle. Same as a ICE bike, just using semantics to fool oneself into thinking it’s not. No worries, the enviro-nazis will eventually close down whatever trails you enjoy with ebikes first, then soon after MTN bikes will also be banned. Happens out here in Montana all the time.
They just tried to close down the remaining 10% of bike trails/OHV areas whilst shrieking,”you need to compromise! Why will you not cOmProMisE?!”
Well…you’ve closed down 90% of all the trails since the 90s…when are you going to open up more trails as a compromise, since that’s exactly how the word is supposed to work.
@@downbytheriver501 not in the uk! I can ride any trail or bike park. If I came on a moto cross bike the police would be called. Mx is hated here in uk even in green lanes. Can go anywhere on my e-bike
@@jonthecont sorry to hear that.
I used to have an old wallmart bike that was made out of steel. My parents wouldn’t allow me to put a motor in it but when I saw a trick that made your seat up higher I passed people on the trails. But the suspension was ass.
Wats messed up, is i was/is an avid bike rider, but this last year my sciatica has been practically crippling me.. thats the whole inspiration that got me to spend that kind of $. And i love it. I can ride all day and not hurt myself
This is so true!
It's not, you just want it to be true.
@@tonyb9735 I mean the part where he says that he wants an E-Bike
I have both manual and emtb. Love them both equally! 😎👍
Hey man little tip for ya. The shocks have a lockout for a reason and climbing a hill is that reason. Lock out your front forks makes climbing way easier
Someone legit goes “what the fuck” when I passed him yesterday while he was struggling up a hill. Like bruh I’m doing door dash I’m gone.
Well I ride to lower body fat while enjoying myself, e bike would negate everything, exhibit a here is a lard ball as you can see, could do with the cardio 😂😂
I ride an ebike to save body fat. Different people, different goals.
Lol you only burn a slightly less amount of calories. People like you really do not understand the concept of calories or fitness, but try and talk like they actually know anything. I bet you're the type of person to fall into some fad super-diet.
I don’t wish I had one, I wish they’d stop looking at me like I’m weak altho I’m clearly doing actual exercise.
Nobody is looking at you and thinking anything. Lmfao you've made up an imaginary situation 🤣
Lol you're just incredibly insecure.
For me it depends on the type of e-bike. I personally absolutely despise the folding ones because they sh*t the bed in a heatbeat. I got one yesterday and I had to wrestle with all of my strength to fold it and then it wouldn’t turn on. Then the front tire was all messed up. So I immediately threw it in the dumpster and it’s gone now. I’m not gonna even bother selling it, because I’d rather not stress anyone out who is dumb enough to buy it. It just needs to be destroyed at a recycling center. Never again. I’m still really angry about that.
However, I do love the non folding fat tire E-bikes with the battery on the frame instead of inside of it. Those work like a charm!
One day, I was riding my e-bike, Rad Runner Plus from Rad Power Bikes(I highly recommend them) and I was riding through the streets of San Francisco, Mission district for you locals, and there was this old chubbier white dude why was peddling his own bike. Back then the bike lanes were off onto the shoulders of Valencia street. My bike is capped out at 20 mph and I was just peddling and cruising through the street. The guy took a notice of it and immediately started riding aggressively around me, like he literally pedaled up to my side and tried cutting me off and literally do what is mocked in this short. By the time I got to 16th street he caught up to me and started swearing at me. I straight up turn to him and loudly said “hey I’m just trying to get to work.” Never saw him or heard from him again, I normally don’t like wishing ill wills but I wouldn’t mind if someone had hit him or anything. Point is he won’t be missed, oh yeah he wasn’t wearing a helmet.
I remember talking about it at work and was thinking “I’m sorry that I have a bike that is electronically assisted compared to him. At that point it’s his ego that’s talking and he think a bike is a a bike if you pedal with no assistance and it is a motorcycle once there’s a motor attached to it.
I remember thinking that at some point there will be more complications since people are more often than not reckless than they realize. That is not their faults, but rather they never been properly instructed on the rule of the road. As a licensed Driver, I know the rules of what to do and what not to do on the road. Simple as that. However kids don’t know these laws because for most of us who do ride bikes it’s essentially treated like a skateboard, roller skates/blades, and a unicycle. It’s a means for quicker transportation that’s not a car and not walking. Both of which just doesn’t happen overnight, it’s practice. Once someone gets the hang of riding a bike, they’ll ride it everywhere and there’s no law on where you can or can’t take your bike, besides trespassing.
However San Francisco has been repaving their roads to dedicate space for bike lanes. Because we all know how selfish car drivers are when it comes to sharing the damn road.
If we’re going to ban e bikes, then we should start banning cars too, since all these means of transportation are harmful and unsafe.
How stupid does the government think we are, pretty damn stupid, and we’re constantly adding more reasons to justify their claims. Good job America.
Dudes that ride ebikes have wives that have boyfriends who ride real bikes. Don’t @ me.
Annoying to me when I am riding the paved bike trails with my little dog running beside me and some 90 year old on an e-moped blast by me at like 45 mph.😡
That's hilarious, actually.
90 year old like "outa the way, young punk!"
As someone from the Netherlands i gotta say ebikes are quite dangerous as you can’t often predict how fast they are
All the e bikers trying to convince everyone it's the same workout and effort😂😂😂
Imagine needing an E-bike to get up a hill, you’re taking away half of biking
Your the guy In the video 😂
@@jackdunwody4771 😂
I hate to break it to you, but most people don't understand the beauty of climbing. I don't have a natural climber's body, but the rhythm and magic of an extremely long uphill can't be beaten.
People getting out getting fresh air, isn’t that the most important thing?? Not everyone is about putting on Lycra and climbing the biggest hill.
@@kevinvanhollebeke4560 I agree with you climbing is one of the most important parts of biking