You know why you like your Guzzi? Because of its simplicity and character. It has soul. It is motorcycling back to the basics. It has what you need minus what you don't need. It allows you to enjoy a ride without being distracted by toys. It is a sign of maturity. I hope you enjoy it for years to come.
One of the things I love so much is that they don't hide anything behind skirts and fairings. There is a pure mechanical beauty in every part - the barrels, the starter motor, the shaft drive unit... it is all on display and part of the art that is Guzzi.
I own several bikes that would be considered downgrades from my previous rides. It’s 100% all about how the riding experience and how it makes you feel!
In my garage I have a about a half a dozen 170+hp bikes and then one day I wandered home with a a URAL M72 on a trailer. lol sometimes we get these weird itches that we just HAVE to scratch.
I can't blame you I got a 117 low rider s but I love my 97 magna and valkyrie and I would NEVER get rid of them been through 8 bikes and sold em all except those 2 well and also my evo chopper but that isn't a typical bike
Trying to have fun through power and speed is the short way to the grave. The adrenaline wears of too quickly and you push even further. Just relax and have some fun.
If you "get" Moto Guzzi it makes sense. If you are a spec-sheet warrior you don't know what you are talking about. Glad you are enjoying the bike. Love my Guzzi!
I've ridden all over Europe and the UK on my little 2004 Guzzi. When I first got it, in 2004 new, I joined the Guzzi family. I learned that a 10 minute test ride on a Guzzi is no good; has to be all day. And if you like it, it might just be a lifelong attachment 😊 They are truly unique.
Ditto your sentiments, sir! After a couple quick adjustments, I mounted Griso for a 7500 mile trek around the western US from north to south, and completely enjoyed every inch. Thru rain, shine, high wind sand storms, mountain twisties, to lone prairie blasts, Griso was my loyal steed and personal confidant, with nary a whimper or misstep. The essence of motorcycling.
The moto should be "Ride a Guzzi , put a smile on your face". I had a brand new 83 Suzuki GS850G, which I loved. Then I rode my dads 78 850 Le Mans with Continental pipes. It was hard and slow to shift, throttle was stiff etc. but it was fantastic with its brute sound soulful character. People on the steet were looking to see what the heck was making that awsome sound when I went by with both thumbs up.Hooked ever since. There is nothing compared to riding a Guzzi.
As far as its looks....when I worked in Boston years ago, there was a guy who commuted to work on a green Griso 8V w/brown saddle and parked it right outside my building on the sidewalk. I think it was the most beautiful bike with the best color combination I'd ever seen.
That would be the Tenni colour scheme. A homage to the racer Tommaso Tenni. Very beautiful! He was a racer known as the Black Devil, which also inspired the Diablo Nero colour scheme of Spite's bike.
@@GuzziHeroV50 Very interesting info....thanks. Yes it was beautiful. (It was parked in the Financial District of the city, so most likely very expensive new.)
I have a 2007 Griso 1100 and I'm totally with you here. I have owned Guzzis for many years and it is hard to explain why I love them over every other brand. I think it is probably a mix of the uniqueness, the feel, they handle and perform way better than they deserve to. But it's mainly about the way it makes me smile every time I ride and that isn't something that I can put into words. Whenever any of my friends have a ride on my Griso, they come back grinning and shaking their heads in disbelief. None of them have ever ridden anything that makes them feel the way that a Guzzi does. As the saying goes - you meet the strangest people on a Guzzi! With the riding feel, it is unlike most others. You don't steer the bike with the bars, you lean and then counter the bars because they are so long. Also, a retune is very valuable to improve midrange) there is a flat spot for emissions testing) and will improve MPG. The 1100 has no ABS by the way, I don't think the 1200 does either but I may be wrong.
Excellent Description of the Guzzi experience because on paper it shouldn't work as well as it does. But they reach into your motorcycle soul. The Griso has wooden Brembo Pads, Swap the pads, Fluid but if you really want some amazing brakes put a Brembo RCS19 that is adjustable in piston and leverage. Look in the Manual and drop the forks to the Sport Level for quicker turn in. And that Factory Can weighs 28lbs and a Lithium Battery cuts another 14lbs. Both of those weights are up high so the Griso will transition side to side even better. And in Twisty downhills you will just use engine braking and hear that glorious sound!
4 months on,, The Griso was always on my radar. Yes, I'm a Guzzi fan,, but I was looking for something different,, something more. And if everything goes according to plan,, I'll be the new owner of a 014 Guzzi California Touring. 🙏🏻 Can't wait honestly. Update: Made the purchase!! 🥰 absolutely beautiful black beast 😍.
Same model is available here, old new stock! And the price reasonable considering that here in Malaysia motorcycles are expensive because of the import tax. Would be good to hear your experince with the California.
I have empathy here. I have a speed triple 1200RS....which is an absolute weapon and a masterpiece of engineering.....but i cant stop thinking about a Griso instead.
Turning that throttle just makes you smile - its a truly great bike and in years to come will become classic but its not like any other Guzzi or cruiser
I got the same feeling of "love at first ride" with my California 1400. I jumped from a boulevard 50C and the weight and power difference felt right. MG has a magic spell that catches some of us into a riding dream. Love it!
I totally agree with you on the "everything always needs to be an upgrade" and it leading to an "arms race" in the motorcycle world. That's very spot on. While I love my KTM 1290 SAS (when it's 100%) I have found that it is objectively way more power than anyone can legally and safely use on the street. I think most riders do that whole aspirational thing as they grow in their riding career. I know I did. Now I've got the top end bike in KTMs ADV Touring lineup, and I'm like, "Ok, now what? It's great when it works, but damn does KTM have some QC issues!". At this point I am always thinking of how much this high-strung monster is going to cost me long term, and is that potentially high cost worth it? I can't legally use everything this bike has got on the street. It's only really good for thrills and the occasional high speed pass. I keep going back to considering a 'downgrade' to a smaller Japanese sport touring bike, and just kind of settling in there until I retire from riding some day. Still great fun. Quite reliable. Still has many of the electronic/tech features I want.
I also have a 1290 SA, but I feel about as good about it as Spite feels about his Griso. If you're having quality issues, maybe there are some recalls out for whatever is wrong? Or maybe the guys on the forums might have some solutions. Whatever the case, I hope things get better for ya.
I actually just upgraded to a new 1290 SAS a couple of weeks ago from my old 701 SM. I am loving it to pieces. Literally, just 2 weeks in and I already need a new left side couple connector for the mirror as I broke that one when my bike fell over on some (too) soft grass that it was parked on. lol But yeah, I knew buying in to it that its peak performance was too much for the street, but that's ok. I wanted the down low torque this beast has. I wanted to still have access to 80-100 hp at 4000-5000rpm. I'm very happy with it so far. It has filled me with way more confidence than my old 701 ever did, oddly enough. Like the other commenter here, I also feel as good about my new SAS as Spite feels for his Griso. I'm sorry you haven't been quite as satisfied with it. I hope that can change for you, but if it means you also need to move on, then so be it. It's all part of the journey.
Had my Griso for 8 years now. Recently bought a BMW 1250 GS and was meant to sell the Griso. Still haven’t sold it yet. Longest that I have ever owned a road bike. Such a joy to ride and the only time that I have ever wished for more power was on track days and bike drag racing nights.
That Griso does sound nice, and it seems to have enough power to do what you want without all the Ducati's bells & whistles. It's great to see somebody enjoying a bike so much!
Once a Guzzi gets under your skin - nothing else will do. I do love the Griso such a beautiful looking bike ! I nearly got one but went for a V11 sport instead. Such an engaging ride.
I entirely agree with the way you choose your ride. Living in Canada, our motorcycling season is coming to an end. This is my 47th. The 2013 Griso is my tenth bike. A 750 Bonneville for over 40 years, 3 Suzukis (including a RG500 Gamma!), Yamahas, and a Honda. Good bikes all of them but the Guzzi seems to encapsulate all I want in a motorcycle. Except for a wheel base which is a bit too long, this bike is perfect. As you said, the vibrations, the sound, the looks, the Griso has it all. It has soul. Every ride is a celebration of the here and now. Many thanks.
Spite, You've hit the nail on the head."Its's the right bike for me", "It suits my personality". Thank you for verbalising what should be obvious but often isn't. ATVB
I think that is probably the most underrated comment I’ve heard about motorcycles in a long time. “The next bike doesn’t always have to be an upgrade”. After coming off a 1200cc tech tour de force adventure bike I can agree to that. I have now settled into a middle weight parallel twin with lighter weight and more capable suspension. I couldn’t be happier at the moment. When I first took the bike out in the black hills SD this past summer at one point in the twistiest I told myself, “this is best bike over ever owned”! And that comment was not based on a spec sheet. Thank you Spite for making this point, especially newer riders might not understand this concept. BTW I’ve always wanted a Moto Guzzi but they have always been elusive to me snatching one up. That being said I rode a V85TT at last and wasn’t impressed, at least for me it didn’t work out.
Great observations about your Guzzi. I just sold my Griso for a V85TT, I wanted to go for a bike that I could pile miles on and the Griso was good, but the TT is better. The Griso was so much fun ride at speed, and while I miss it I think the 85TT is the bike for where I am. ENJOY your Griso Sir!
A little hello from the south of France I completely agree with you regarding your view of the criteria for evaluating your machine. I own the 1200 SPORT cousin from MotoGuzzi and I wouldn't change it for anything in the world. I think that whatever the models of the MotoGuzzi brand, the sensations offered by these motorcycles are truly unique beyond the performances. Emotion and sensation
I'm slowly returning to riding, after a long break, considering all my buying options. So I've got older notions in my head of the riding experience to begin with. Some of the advancements or changes over the years intrigue me but others turn me off. My eye has lingered over Moto Guzzis in the past and this video gives me that tingle. Always good to remind folks of THIS EXACT THING regularly or you do get lost in details like specs or latest technologies. Well done.
I too have a Griso and it is a keeper. It reminds me of the 1978 Ducati 900 GTS I had years ago. It tracks perfectly and pulls from low down. I’m a big man and it suits me perfectly.
A lifelong Guzzi owner, (amongst many others ;) ) I am pleased you have found the Guzzi magic. They are not like other brands. It takes time to get to know them. They do not appreciate being bullied and respond well to being ridden with empathy, by playing to their strengths. You coax the best out of them. Guzzi & Ducati come at things from different ends of the spectrum. Ducatis were based on detuned race engine technology. Maintenance costs & reliability are an issue. Guzzi V-Twin engines were based on a military tractor engine. A very solid robust lump which they tuned up to a decent degree. Generally they tend to be more reliable & have shaft drive, with all the plusses & minuses. that brings. Of course like for like, Guzzis are not as agile & fast as Ducatis, but you pay your money & take your choice of what is important to you :)
Congrats on finding a bike you love so much. It is a burly, beautiful beast! Feel like these bikes are underrated and under explored in the motovlogger world. It’s true it’s not all about numbers but how it makes you feel & what you gravitate towards.
See if you can get your hands on an MT01. The US never got them, but i believe there are a few Canadian imports about. If you like a Buell, the Arch, and a Griso, you will freak riding an MT01. A bike way before its time, why it did'nt sell in big numbers then, but is highly sought after now, and still keeps its value in Europe. And thats all coming from a raving confirned Guzzisti.
Back in the day I had 500 Guzzi, suspension was jello, electrics would go intermit in the rain, it was not a looker, wasn't fast... I got a lot of smiles per miles from it. As you say, you have change your riding style if you want the best from your ride.
I imagine you like the Griso for the same reason I enjoy the Kawasaki X-300 so much: Realistic expectations. No one is out here fighting for tenths of a second with camping gear on a bike, or while commuting, or on a weekend trip. There is SO MUCH ego in this hobby at times it seems to infect the entire meta.
In Cruiser World, we have gone from the Victory 92c at 92 ci having the largest engine around at 1500 cc to stock Harleys in 2023 with a 117 ci (1920 cc) engine. The factory custom Harleys (CVO) can be had with a 131 ci (2150 cc) engine. We are way past the point of diminishing returns. As if this wasn't silly enough, many (most?) cruiser buyers go with the Stage 1 or 2 or even Stage 4 upgrade to tack on another 2 to 10 percent horsepower. It's absurd.
If the Griso makes you smile more than the Duc was, then I would argue that you did upgrade. The specs might not agree, which proves the point that "there is a lot more to a bike than specs".
I have a Moto Guzzi V100 and a Victory Vegas. They are both very satisfying to ride although very different to be sure. I am fortunate to be able to walk out into my garage and have to decide which one I will ride that day. By the way I was glad you mentioned that you put lowering foot pegs on your Griso as I am considering doing the same for my Mandello. Thank you for sharing your motorcycle riding journey. Enjoy your Guzzi!
Hey Spite, I should probably finish the vid before commenting but still, I’m inspired by what you did. We always hear from Moto vloggers to get the bike you like, not just follow the specs- and that’s just what you did. I’m glad you followed your heart. Oh, and while the Ducati looked nice, I also prefer the looks and sound of the Griso!
Spot on. I also found the "right" way to ride my 1200 Sport after a few weeks of ownership. I think it relates to the centre of gravity, but let the bike lean beneath you and it becomes light and nimble. I have recently sold it because I am spending all of my time doing adventure rides, but took it for a final ride before handing it over, and that wonderful torquey engine, sound and sweet handling came right back to me. The new owner got a great bike.
One, sounds amazing! I guess I'm a twin guy who never knew it. My triumph also sounds amazing. I've always been a fan of Guzzi but have yet to own one. Back when I raced a long time ago those hard to start guzzis were the baddest ass sounding bikes on the track. Glad to hear you are enjoying it. Your advice is good, I think I need to list my ridiculously fast Italian for perhaps another type.) One could never have too many twins :)
Enjoyed the vid. I am a long time guzzi owner. While performance sports bike have come and gone from my garage and i.have enjoyed them, i always come back to my 850 le mans, nothing puts a smile on my face like that bike. That's what biking is a about
I went down from a CRF1100 Africa Twin AS to a 2023 CB500X. Added panniers and a Rally Raid rear shock and I’m super stoked. Just because it’s a cheaper bike doesn’t mean it’s a lesser bike.
@@robertmifkovic6325 I have, and it's not slow or underpowered. It's also not fast. I'd call the power appropriate or adequate. Just looked it up to make sure my memory wasn't off. 3.1 seconds 0-60 and 11.1 seconds in the 1/4 mile. I'd hardly call that slow or underpowered.
Coming from Gsxr‘s and Aprilia Rsv Mille, I swapt to a Guzzi v7 and man do I love this bike. No need for the overpowered bikes when you found something that really hit the spot
In this video you stated that you haven't bled the clutch because it's 'Not important'. Just a heads up, all the CARC bikes are murder on their clutch fluid. I have no idea why but, like it's predecessor the V11 they just destroy the fluid and if you don't swap it regularly, (At least yearly or every 10,000km.) you will kill the seals in the master cylinder and may get pitting in the alloy of the bore. It's also so easy as there is a remote bleed line under the seat, takes only ten minutes. Do it.
Spot on, it’s all about the way you feel riding it. I have an older griso 1100, and while it’s nowhere near as fast or nimble as my ZX9R, or as shiny and cool and loud as my old softail, I ride it more than the other 2 combined because it’s so much fun, it also sounds awesome with aftermarket mufflers and never fails to put a smile on my face when I wrap the accelerator on.
i'm looking forward to upgrading from my dead 2009 xmax 125... gonna have to wait til january and hope I can get my part of Italy's contribution to buy a new motorcycle when they drop it
Spite, you and I have had a very similar progression of bikes. You had the VFR800, I had the CBR500R (my first bike). You went to a 690 SMCR and Hyperstrada, I moved to a 701 SM. You now moved to the Griso, and I moved on to a 1290 Super Adventure S just a couple of weeks ago. Yeah the Griso and 1290 SAS are not the same category of bikes, but the progression is still paralleled. We went from our little punchy sumos to a 520lb-530lb "big" bike. I was definitely not reaching for the keys of my 701 anymore, and it was my only bike!!! lol Our similar progression of bikes is part of why I like seeing your content, even though I feel we ultimately have a different preference of bikes (I do not like cruisers and Harleys, for example and can also only have 1 bike, so my preferences are also influenced by that). I know you are also an ADV junkie and lust for that Panam. I look forward to when you join the club some day. 🙂 That said, I'm glad you are loving the Griso. I only got 3 rides on my SAS so far also, but I am loving it to pieces. I'm rather shocked how much more confidence I have on my SAS compared to my old 701.
Spite, i think this is your best video to date. I go shopping bikes and i cross shop everything, because in the end its two wheels and a motor. I just have to figure out which one will accomplish what i want within my price range.
Ducati fanboy here. I have a 1260S Back and Steel Diavel and a SFV4S that I’ve draped in almost every piece of Full Six carbon that’s available. Spec sheets don’t mean jack. If it makes you happy, do it. That’s what motorcycling is all about. I also own a Vitpilen 401 and I absolutely love it. It’s about what brings a smile to your face. That’s it. You’re still on 2 wheels and you’re happy. You don’t have to justify it to anyone else. Anyone who preaches hate to you either probably doesn’t ride at all or is trying to justify the only purchase from whatever manufacturer they can afford. Thats it.
I really wanted to post something like this on your last podcast about reviews, but I TOTALLY agree. I wanted an old XL1200R but couldn't quite afford one. I *COULD* afford an XR1200 though, and lots of people online were like "Look at the spec sheet bra!" and "It's the sportiest sportster! It's the best one!" and reviewers were taking that bike out for an hour, thrashing it, and saying "This is peak fucking sportster!" It's not. It's just not. A hopped up sportster is fun, but the seating position is brutal. It's impossible to ride for any length of time. There's no parts for it, no custom parts, it wants to wheelie in traffic, the clutch is brutally heavy.... I sold it. Now I have an XL1200R, and it's FANTASTIC. It has torque, but I can ride it in traffic. The seat is great and I can spend hours on it. The handlebars let me lean in a bit in the corners and have fun, but I can relax on the straights. It's by all measurable qualities a worse bike, but ITS SO MUCH BETTER.
Have a Griso and 3 other bikes. Like you, I had to learn how to ride it, but wow. Wouldn't change it - such a soulful experience. I think you encapsulated it nicely there, sir. Thanks.
Man - what a bike you have there! I've always loved the Griso and it's still on my wish list. For now, I'm riding a 23-year-old BMW R1100S which has something of that same appeal: a big, grunty ai/oil-cooled twin-cylinder engine with great suspension and that elusive thing called character. Here in the UK you can pick up a clean R1100S for £2,500 and mine can more than keep up with my mates who ride far faster newer bikes with ride modes and all that jazz. You don't have to spend a whole lot of money to have a cool ride and you certainly have that with the Griso 😎
Guzzi's appear to have a soul. Have a V11 Sport, now about 13 years. Never going to sell it. P.s. Harley could not make it. P.s. 2 you can do upshifts wihout clutch, just down on throtle and click.
Damn your comments on always upgrading hit me. Coming from the UK where when you're young you start on smaller/ less powerful bikes (which to be fair is probably the reason I'm still alive today) I've always been looking for my next bigger/ faster bike, forgetting in the process that, that isn't what riding is about. Next riding season I'm going to focus on what I love most; racking up big miles on 2 wheels with my mates.
Your point of view is a mature and intelligent one. I recently sold my Suzuki SV 650 and kept a Monkey 125 that I enjoy riding. It is only how you feel driving the bike. I am sure that my next bikes will be lighter and lower than the XSR900 that I proudly own as well. Bigger and more powerful does not mean better. Love your channel.
I just finished my first season of riding. Choose the Trident 660, since it seemed like the right deal: calm, maneuverable but also quite good performance. It ahs a slightly delayed throttle but i think that is perfect for a beginner like me and i am really comfortable with it. i will definetly ride it for another season and then see if i actually want a rowdier bike or one, that i can do longer tours with. Thank you for all your tips and reviews over the past few years Spite, you helped me getting into this hobby 🏍
I've been looking at the trident 660 as my first bike. I'm 28 but I've never ridden before, I'm about to do one of those direct access courses here in the UK. Do you reckon I should go for the trident or would it be smarter to go with something smaller like the new 400cc bike triumph just released?
@@-Eternal-Damnation- i got my license last year when i was 28 :). guess i was in the exact same boat as you. as long as you respect, that the trident has 81 horses you will be fine. It is a rather gentle bike with the three cylinders and delayed throttle. If you grab the quick shifter aswell its perfect. I'd recommend it. BUT allways test drive first :) get like 3-4 bikes you like and testdrive them as close to each other as possible and then decide
I've got an XB9S and it's a blast all the time! Spite needs to find an XB12 to review! Air cooled, torque-first V-twin in a stumpy, agile little package.
I have to agree I had a monster 696 and loved it. Except having a bad back made it hurt to ride. I sold it for something that is 250 pounds heavier wet in a dyna street Bob. Absolutely love the idea because I can ride it aggressive still but it’s comfortable
So true, I had a tracer900 , awesome bike , fast , nimble everything you would expect from a modern bike ...however, I never felt in control of it, I dont put the miles in over a year. I traded for a vn900 custom. Love it, makes me feel alive. Ride what makes you happy
Spite it'd be interesting to see you include MPG figures in any comparisons. I know its a minor point to most - especially americans I guess - but it's definitely a major stat I look at when comparing bikes, especially bikes with similar power numbers
I bought a C50 boulevard last fall after a long break from 2 wheels, loved it, came across a deal on a Harley Street Glide, sold the C50 and bought that this summer, put 4k miles on it before winter, then about a month ago I wanted something a little smaller, lighter and sportier, I had a SV650S 15+ years ago and loved it, so I was looking at those, then I came across the CFMoto's, I thought why not spend a little more money and get something brand new, got a 650NK and love it, now I'm seeing a lot of chatter about the 800NK, I may trade the 650 in for one of those when the dealer has one I can ride.
Too many people roll their eyes when Moto Guzzi riders talk about "character" with their bikes. Unfortunately, character is the only/best word to describe the wonderfulness of how a person will feel when riding Moto Guzzis. Nope, they're not the fastest nor the most technologically advanced motorcycles out there.... but they make us feel great!
All the young folks are going to buy a high hp, super fast bike eventually. (I did that too with a Fireblade and a VFR1200F ) Later in life you'll realize the fun of riding isn't always racing on public roads . I'm riding for 30 years now and I downgraded to a 700cc parallel twin and 75hp.... And I have so much fun with it!
I've recently acquired a GL1500. Not ridden it much, as there's a few issues needing sorted. I got this bike to haul the girlfriend around - basically, if she will come out with me (as she's said she will), then this is the best bike for the job. If it's too uncomfortable, or can't carry all her stuff, or she just never wants to, then no other bike will persuade her, because, realistically, it's an ultimate two-up bike. Also, although it's not my first Wing, it's my first 1500, and there's a good chance that I'll really enjoy it solo. If not, I may just get another cruiser. The thing about ultimate dream bikes, though, is that once you have them, you're kinda stuck. There's nowhere else to go. Do you want to ride that same bike for the rest of your life?
I also have a Griso 1200 8v SE. I agree with you 100%. I have owned a 179 motorcycles, and the Griso is one of the very best ones. I only need to get a better tune on it, since it has a little bit of a flat spot at around 3500 rpm. I feels so good to ride, every single time I take it out. I have 6 other bikes and I love them all, but this one is very special. I had a V7 and thought it was cool looking but very underwhelming to ride. The Griso is fast and burly. It is also so unique! We used to make fun of Moto Guzzis when I was a kid. I remember the Ambassador 700 and how ugly and weird it was. Not the newer bikes, they are so cool looking now. Great review!
The '06 Ninja 650 that I've had for over 17 years is practically out the door with both an upgrade & a downgrade taking its place in the garage. My upgrade is an Aprilia 750 Shiver that's the antithesis of my Ninja, demanding your full attention all the time, lest it kill you with its snappy throttle & grabby clutch. And I love every minute riding it. And the downgrade is a Yamaha 225 Scorpio, a nugget of a little bike that barely beats a Grom off the line, but its air cooled thumper of an engine will take a hell of a beating. That little thing got me from work to home in 17 minutes flat when the Ninjas best has never been lower than 15 minutes. If. like me, you measure motorcycle performance in smiles per mile, the only measurement that really matters, then both of these bikes are a huge upgrade.
This is why I love my vintage triumphs. I’ve got a 1975 T160 trident that’s just gorgeous but a couple years ago I got a 2000 triumph legend that I think is also beautiful except it’s not falling apart all the time and breaking down and it’s easier to start, and it usually always starts which is nice. But I really love that bike. I love both of those bikes as matter fact because there’s just something about them the way they handle the way they feel the way they look and sound to me I just love the feel of that three cylinder engineand that almost jungle cat silhouette that they have sure they’re not modern bikes they don’t do 200 miles an hour but the speed limits 75 here no need to go to much faster than that and even it’s slow speed. These spikes are fun though much more fun at high-speed.
Good video, just to ear the way you talk, you have a lot of fun with. I have a griso 1200 SE, and really like it, so much fun to ride. Sur I miss the power of my diavel, but the griso is more capable on a little back road. And the simplicity of the mechanics, and cost of maintenance it's good factor for the guzzi. Last falls I bought a use v85tt, and I can tell you how much I like this motorcycle to,for different raison. Guzzi made a really good motorcycle with soul. Thank you guzzi for that. 👍. I think I have the perfect combo for less what cost one ducati.
Agree with everything you say here except that the Griso isn't as good looking as a Ducati Hyper, not so! I'm fortunate to won three bikes and my most recent acquisition is a 42 y.o. Laverda 500 twin. Recommissioning it is improving my bike fixing skills (it's low mileage but has been laid up for a while), and while it 'only' make 45 bhp (my V7 850 Guzzi makes more), it's light, flickable and comes on the cam at 6000 rpm making it a treat on UK back roads. That it's gorgeous doesn't hurt either. You don't need 150 bhp to have fun
IDK about performance or reliability; but the Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello S and the Triumph rocket 3 are the best looking bikes out today. That being said I'm buying a Honda f6b for some cross-country comfort.
Guzzi's are all about the experience; how they make you feel. I've ridden three times as many miles on my V7 850 this summer as I rode on my Honda CB500F last year. The Guzzi is more fun; but the real secret is the shaft drive. No more sore knees lubing or adjusting the chain to put me off riding.
It is too bad they don't make this bike anymore. I had a V7 for a while, but traded it in on a Sportster 48 which I like better with some comfort mods Moto Guzzi doesn't have. I don't think I have a next bike in mind for now unless I get into long distance touring.
Thanks Spite for a thoughtful recap over your purchase of a "downgrade" bike - I only have two bikes, but I love them both - the Royal Enfield 650 INT ( with air filter upgrade and end can upgrade - almost too noisy now! - but a huge improvement in HP now 65HP and torque and fun - does the ton easily) and an R1200RT - full of torque and heavy and a bit of fun - and comfortable! One bike is fun, the other is cruising the miles in comfort and day trips with the missus on the back! Your style and professional finish to your vids is testament to your skills, your experience in the game, and your riding skills. The Moto Guzzi Griso is a "classic" motorcycle and you love it - you bought one haha! It shows you are mellowing, gaining more experience in judging motorcycle criteria based on rider needs - not just specifics of HP and top speed! Technology doesn't matter when you enjoy a good bike without it. Horses for courses. We are all going to ride our bikes on the highway, around the curves, the suburbs, and the stop and go. If we want a bike for the weekend race track, then buy one that suits that!! But we all need a stablemate that does what we want, effortlessly and with fun and comfort - the Griso does that!!! Thanks, Graeme NZ
An older bike with character. Ace's a new super-duper bike with all the gadgets. It won't break the bank. Provides all the entertainment you want in the real world. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
I'm based in the UK and bought the new Honda CB750 Hornet in March, I have got 8500 miles on it and it is an absolute delight to ride and never fails to put a smile on my face, I really hope it makes its way over to the states it will sell like hotcakes as its such a great bike and an absolute snip at £6999.
The odd thing is that the Transalp 750 is already available, at least in Canada. I would take that to mean that's it's no accident that the Hornet didn't make it here.
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You know why you like your Guzzi? Because of its simplicity and character. It has soul. It is motorcycling back to the basics. It has what you need minus what you don't need. It allows you to enjoy a ride without being distracted by toys. It is a sign of maturity. I hope you enjoy it for years to come.
One of the things I love so much is that they don't hide anything behind skirts and fairings. There is a pure mechanical beauty in every part - the barrels, the starter motor, the shaft drive unit... it is all on display and part of the art that is Guzzi.
I own several bikes that would be considered downgrades from my previous rides. It’s 100% all about how the riding experience and how it makes you feel!
In my garage I have a about a half a dozen 170+hp bikes and then one day I wandered home with a a URAL M72 on a trailer. lol sometimes we get these weird itches that we just HAVE to scratch.
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I can't blame you I got a 117 low rider s but I love my 97 magna and valkyrie and I would NEVER get rid of them been through 8 bikes and sold em all except those 2 well and also my evo chopper but that isn't a typical bike
Trying to have fun through power and speed is the short way to the grave. The adrenaline wears of too quickly and you push even further. Just relax and have some fun.
@@dmitrijr7065 I'm in my 50s and still cant get enough of things that go fast. cars, bikes, boats, whatever. that's just how some of us are wired.
If you "get" Moto Guzzi it makes sense. If you are a spec-sheet warrior you don't know what you are talking about. Glad you are enjoying the bike. Love my Guzzi!
I've ridden all over Europe and the UK on my little 2004 Guzzi. When I first got it, in 2004 new, I joined the Guzzi family. I learned that a 10 minute test ride on a Guzzi is no good; has to be all day. And if you like it, it might just be a lifelong attachment 😊 They are truly unique.
Ditto your sentiments, sir!
After a couple quick adjustments, I mounted Griso for a 7500 mile trek around the western US from north to south, and completely enjoyed every inch. Thru rain, shine, high wind sand storms, mountain twisties, to lone prairie blasts, Griso was my loyal steed and personal confidant, with nary a whimper or misstep. The essence of motorcycling.
Possible to fix side panniers?
The moto should be "Ride a Guzzi , put a smile on your face". I had a brand new 83 Suzuki GS850G, which I loved. Then I rode my dads 78 850 Le Mans with Continental pipes. It was hard and slow to shift, throttle was stiff etc. but it was fantastic with its brute sound soulful character. People on the steet were looking to see what the heck was making that awsome sound when I went by with both thumbs up.Hooked ever since. There is nothing compared to riding a Guzzi.
As far as its looks....when I worked in Boston years ago, there was a guy who commuted to work on a green Griso 8V w/brown saddle and parked it right outside my building on the sidewalk. I think it was the most beautiful bike with the best color combination I'd ever seen.
That would be the Tenni colour scheme. A homage to the racer Tommaso Tenni. Very beautiful! He was a racer known as the Black Devil, which also inspired the Diablo Nero colour scheme of Spite's bike.
@@GuzziHeroV50 Very interesting info....thanks. Yes it was beautiful. (It was parked in the Financial District of the city, so most likely very expensive new.)
Your comment was spot on mate, only the name is different. It’s not Tommaso, but Omobono instead. Weird name for sure
I have a 2007 Griso 1100 and I'm totally with you here. I have owned Guzzis for many years and it is hard to explain why I love them over every other brand. I think it is probably a mix of the uniqueness, the feel, they handle and perform way better than they deserve to. But it's mainly about the way it makes me smile every time I ride and that isn't something that I can put into words.
Whenever any of my friends have a ride on my Griso, they come back grinning and shaking their heads in disbelief. None of them have ever ridden anything that makes them feel the way that a Guzzi does. As the saying goes - you meet the strangest people on a Guzzi!
With the riding feel, it is unlike most others. You don't steer the bike with the bars, you lean and then counter the bars because they are so long. Also, a retune is very valuable to improve midrange) there is a flat spot for emissions testing) and will improve MPG.
The 1100 has no ABS by the way, I don't think the 1200 does either but I may be wrong.
I have a griso 1200 2013,and no abs brake, 😁
Excellent Description of the Guzzi experience because on paper it shouldn't work as well as it does. But they reach into your motorcycle soul. The Griso has wooden Brembo Pads, Swap the pads, Fluid but if you really want some amazing brakes put a Brembo RCS19 that is adjustable in piston and leverage. Look in the Manual and drop the forks to the Sport Level for quicker turn in. And that Factory Can weighs 28lbs and a Lithium Battery cuts another 14lbs. Both of those weights are up high so the Griso will transition side to side even better. And in Twisty downhills you will just use engine braking and hear that glorious sound!
4 months on,, The Griso was always on my radar.
Yes, I'm a Guzzi fan,, but I was looking for something different,, something more.
And if everything goes according to plan,, I'll be the new owner of a 014 Guzzi California Touring. 🙏🏻
Can't wait honestly.
Update: Made the purchase!! 🥰 absolutely beautiful black beast 😍.
Same model is available here, old new stock! And the price reasonable considering that here in Malaysia motorcycles are expensive because of the import tax. Would be good to hear your experince with the California.
I have empathy here. I have a speed triple 1200RS....which is an absolute weapon and a masterpiece of engineering.....but i cant stop thinking about a Griso instead.
As a 08 Norge 1200 owner. I concur that these are lovely machines.
I've got a 2013 GT8v, love the character & soul, more so than my Ducati multistrada.
@@ftby59mikeD I considered a Multistrada prior to the Norge
Turning that throttle just makes you smile - its a truly great bike and in years to come will become classic but its not like any other Guzzi or cruiser
Liking a worse bike is sooo Guzzi ! Guzzi’s are the best at having character, that certain ‘je ne sais qua’
I got the same feeling of "love at first ride" with my California 1400. I jumped from a boulevard 50C and the weight and power difference felt right. MG has a magic spell that catches some of us into a riding dream. Love it!
I totally agree with you on the "everything always needs to be an upgrade" and it leading to an "arms race" in the motorcycle world. That's very spot on. While I love my KTM 1290 SAS (when it's 100%) I have found that it is objectively way more power than anyone can legally and safely use on the street. I think most riders do that whole aspirational thing as they grow in their riding career. I know I did. Now I've got the top end bike in KTMs ADV Touring lineup, and I'm like, "Ok, now what? It's great when it works, but damn does KTM have some QC issues!". At this point I am always thinking of how much this high-strung monster is going to cost me long term, and is that potentially high cost worth it? I can't legally use everything this bike has got on the street. It's only really good for thrills and the occasional high speed pass. I keep going back to considering a 'downgrade' to a smaller Japanese sport touring bike, and just kind of settling in there until I retire from riding some day. Still great fun. Quite reliable. Still has many of the electronic/tech features I want.
I knew back at the old place when you were simping Harley that you needed to try guzzi and that you'd love or hate them
I also have a 1290 SA, but I feel about as good about it as Spite feels about his Griso. If you're having quality issues, maybe there are some recalls out for whatever is wrong? Or maybe the guys on the forums might have some solutions. Whatever the case, I hope things get better for ya.
I actually just upgraded to a new 1290 SAS a couple of weeks ago from my old 701 SM. I am loving it to pieces. Literally, just 2 weeks in and I already need a new left side couple connector for the mirror as I broke that one when my bike fell over on some (too) soft grass that it was parked on. lol
But yeah, I knew buying in to it that its peak performance was too much for the street, but that's ok. I wanted the down low torque this beast has. I wanted to still have access to 80-100 hp at 4000-5000rpm. I'm very happy with it so far. It has filled me with way more confidence than my old 701 ever did, oddly enough. Like the other commenter here, I also feel as good about my new SAS as Spite feels for his Griso.
I'm sorry you haven't been quite as satisfied with it. I hope that can change for you, but if it means you also need to move on, then so be it. It's all part of the journey.
Had my Griso for 8 years now. Recently bought a BMW 1250 GS and was meant to sell the Griso. Still haven’t sold it yet. Longest that I have ever owned a road bike. Such a joy to ride and the only time that I have ever wished for more power was on track days and bike drag racing nights.
I own a 2017 griso and you are right on the money. It’s a great bike. Plenty fast and I really enjoy riding it. Thanks for a great video. Tom
That Griso does sound nice, and it seems to have enough power to do what you want without all the Ducati's bells & whistles. It's great to see somebody enjoying a bike so much!
Once a Guzzi gets under your skin - nothing else will do. I do love the Griso such a beautiful looking bike ! I nearly got one but went for a V11 sport instead. Such an engaging ride.
The only bike that might take me away from my Griso is an 1100 Sport. I owned one and it is a very special bike.
That's a tough choice, especially if they're both Tenni Green
I entirely agree with the way you choose your ride. Living in Canada, our motorcycling season is coming to an end. This is my 47th. The 2013 Griso is my tenth bike. A 750 Bonneville for over 40 years, 3 Suzukis (including a RG500 Gamma!), Yamahas, and a Honda.
Good bikes all of them but the Guzzi seems to encapsulate all I want in a motorcycle. Except for a wheel base which is a bit too long, this bike is perfect. As you said, the vibrations, the sound, the looks, the Griso has it all. It has soul. Every ride is a celebration of the here and now. Many thanks.
Spite, You've hit the nail on the head."Its's the right bike for me", "It suits my personality". Thank you for verbalising what should be obvious but often isn't. ATVB
I think that is probably the most underrated comment I’ve heard about motorcycles in a long time. “The next bike doesn’t always have to be an upgrade”. After coming off a 1200cc tech tour de force adventure bike I can agree to that. I have now settled into a middle weight parallel twin with lighter weight and more capable suspension. I couldn’t be happier at the moment. When I first took the bike out in the black hills SD this past summer at one point in the twistiest I told myself, “this is best bike over ever owned”! And that comment was not based on a spec sheet. Thank you Spite for making this point, especially newer riders might not understand this concept. BTW I’ve always wanted a Moto Guzzi but they have always been elusive to me snatching one up. That being said I rode a V85TT at last and wasn’t impressed, at least for me it didn’t work out.
Great observations about your Guzzi. I just sold my Griso for a V85TT, I wanted to go for a bike that I could pile miles on and the Griso was good, but the TT is better. The Griso was so much fun ride at speed, and while I miss it I think the 85TT is the bike for where I am. ENJOY your Griso Sir!
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I completely agree with you regarding your view of the criteria for evaluating your machine.
I own the 1200 SPORT cousin from MotoGuzzi and I wouldn't change it for anything in the world. I think that whatever the models of the MotoGuzzi brand, the sensations offered by these motorcycles are truly unique beyond the performances.
Emotion and sensation
Agree with you...Here we say..."sometimes less is more"...
I'm slowly returning to riding, after a long break, considering all my buying options. So I've got older notions in my head of the riding experience to begin with. Some of the advancements or changes over the years intrigue me but others turn me off. My eye has lingered over Moto Guzzis in the past and this video gives me that tingle. Always good to remind folks of THIS EXACT THING regularly or you do get lost in details like specs or latest technologies. Well done.
I too have a Griso and it is a keeper. It reminds me of the 1978 Ducati 900 GTS I had years ago. It tracks perfectly and pulls from low down. I’m a big man and it suits me perfectly.
People like Guzzis for the same reasons they like Sportsters and KLRs, there's something just satisfying in simplicity and time tested engineering
A lifelong Guzzi owner, (amongst many others ;) ) I am pleased you have found the Guzzi magic. They are not like other brands. It takes time to get to know them. They do not appreciate being bullied and respond well to being ridden with empathy, by playing to their strengths. You coax the best out of them. Guzzi & Ducati come at things from different ends of the spectrum. Ducatis were based on detuned race engine technology. Maintenance costs & reliability are an issue. Guzzi V-Twin engines were based on a military tractor engine. A very solid robust lump which they tuned up to a decent degree. Generally they tend to be more reliable & have shaft drive, with all the plusses & minuses. that brings. Of course like for like, Guzzis are not as agile & fast as Ducatis, but you pay your money & take your choice of what is important to you :)
It is all about the smiles per mile the bike can provide, not how big numbers the specsheet has.
It doesn't have ABS, but it's a great bike, I still regret having sold my Griso 8V
Congrats on finding a bike you love so much. It is a burly, beautiful beast! Feel like these bikes are underrated and under explored in the motovlogger world. It’s true it’s not all about numbers but how it makes you feel & what you gravitate towards.
Always loved this bike, looks so special. Had a friend in Italy who owned one, he was an engineer in Brembo.
See if you can get your hands on an MT01. The US never got them, but i believe there are a few Canadian imports about.
If you like a Buell, the Arch, and a Griso, you will freak riding an MT01.
A bike way before its time, why it did'nt sell in big numbers then, but is highly sought after now, and still keeps its value in Europe.
And thats all coming from a raving confirned Guzzisti.
Back in the day I had 500 Guzzi, suspension was jello, electrics would go intermit in the rain, it was not a looker, wasn't fast... I got a lot of smiles per miles from it. As you say, you have change your riding style if you want the best from your ride.
I imagine you like the Griso for the same reason I enjoy the Kawasaki X-300 so much: Realistic expectations. No one is out here fighting for tenths of a second with camping gear on a bike, or while commuting, or on a weekend trip. There is SO MUCH ego in this hobby at times it seems to infect the entire meta.
In Cruiser World, we have gone from the Victory 92c at 92 ci having the largest engine around at 1500 cc to stock Harleys in 2023 with a 117 ci (1920 cc) engine. The factory custom Harleys (CVO) can be had with a 131 ci (2150 cc) engine. We are way past the point of diminishing returns. As if this wasn't silly enough, many (most?) cruiser buyers go with the Stage 1 or 2 or even Stage 4 upgrade to tack on another 2 to 10 percent horsepower. It's absurd.
I upgraded from the Moto Guzzi V7 to the V100. Love that bike.
If the Griso makes you smile more than the Duc was, then I would argue that you did upgrade. The specs might not agree, which proves the point that "there is a lot more to a bike than specs".
I have a Moto Guzzi V100 and a Victory Vegas. They are both very satisfying to ride although very different to be sure. I am fortunate to be able to walk out into my garage and have to decide which one I will ride that day. By the way I was glad you mentioned that you put lowering foot pegs on your Griso as I am considering doing the same for my Mandello. Thank you for sharing your motorcycle riding journey. Enjoy your Guzzi!
maybe this is why people love the MT-07 so much
it's a limited bike, but lots of fun.
I own a 21 plate V85TT with full Race exhaust system and re - map.... It sounds Awesome.. 🔊🔊🤪🔊 🔊
Hey Spite, I should probably finish the vid before commenting but still, I’m inspired by what you did. We always hear from Moto vloggers to get the bike you like, not just follow the specs- and that’s just what you did. I’m glad you followed your heart. Oh, and while the Ducati looked nice, I also prefer the looks and sound of the Griso!
This is what makes motorcycles special
I'm kinda interested in the upcoming Moto Guzzi Stelvio. It catches my eye. I currently own a gsxs1000gt, and it's the best bike I've ever owned.
I'm exited for the new Stelvio as well. I currently own a 2009 Stelvio and I love it. It's my sixth Guzzi, they do get into your blood!
The engine in the V-Rod is an excellent Harley engine and a person needs to spend time on the bike to truly appreciate it.
Damn, you really would love the MT 01. Sadly there is an ocean in the way. I would totally borrow you mine for a review.
Spot on. I also found the "right" way to ride my 1200 Sport after a few weeks of ownership. I think it relates to the centre of gravity, but let the bike lean beneath you and it becomes light and nimble. I have recently sold it because I am spending all of my time doing adventure rides, but took it for a final ride before handing it over, and that wonderful torquey engine, sound and sweet handling came right back to me. The new owner got a great bike.
One, sounds amazing! I guess I'm a twin guy who never knew it. My triumph also sounds amazing. I've always been a fan of Guzzi but have yet to own one. Back when I raced a long time ago those hard to start guzzis were the baddest ass sounding bikes on the track. Glad to hear you are enjoying it. Your advice is good, I think I need to list my ridiculously fast Italian for perhaps another type.) One could never have too many twins :)
Enjoyed the vid. I am a long time guzzi owner. While performance sports bike have come and gone from my garage and i.have enjoyed them, i always come back to my 850 le mans, nothing puts a smile on my face like that bike. That's what biking is a about
Love the motorcycle philosophy….. keep up the good work.
I went down from a CRF1100 Africa Twin AS to a 2023 CB500X. Added panniers and a Rally Raid rear shock and I’m super stoked. Just because it’s a cheaper bike doesn’t mean it’s a lesser bike.
Moto Guzzis are how every motorcycle should be built. Easy valve access, shaft drive and the simplicity of a big air cooled V twin
I always tell people that guzzis feel how alfa romeos drive. They arent the best, they’re the most
Also no power
@@robertmifkovic6325 When did 108hp and 80tq become no power?
@@JC-lk3oy don't look at the spec sheet, ride the bike and you'll will know it slow
@@robertmifkovic6325 I have, and it's not slow or underpowered. It's also not fast. I'd call the power appropriate or adequate.
Just looked it up to make sure my memory wasn't off. 3.1 seconds 0-60 and 11.1 seconds in the 1/4 mile. I'd hardly call that slow or underpowered.
Coming from Gsxr‘s and Aprilia Rsv Mille, I swapt to a Guzzi v7 and man do I love this bike. No need for the overpowered bikes when you found something that really hit the spot
I had a griso for years it was just great to ride made me want to ride everyday. Just was comfy and easy to ride.
In this video you stated that you haven't bled the clutch because it's 'Not important'. Just a heads up, all the CARC bikes are murder on their clutch fluid. I have no idea why but, like it's predecessor the V11 they just destroy the fluid and if you don't swap it regularly, (At least yearly or every 10,000km.) you will kill the seals in the master cylinder and may get pitting in the alloy of the bore.
It's also so easy as there is a remote bleed line under the seat, takes only ten minutes. Do it.
I only have 1, and I still really love it. It is still number 1 on Spites list. VULCAN 650 S!!! 😂 Thanks for the great videos Spite.
Spot on, it’s all about the way you feel riding it. I have an older griso 1100, and while it’s nowhere near as fast or nimble as my ZX9R, or as shiny and cool and loud as my old softail, I ride it more than the other 2 combined because it’s so much fun, it also sounds awesome with aftermarket mufflers and never fails to put a smile on my face when I wrap the accelerator on.
Recently went to a V7 850 from a Ninja 650 and I'm never going back. An on-paper downgrade but on the street it's pure bliss.
i'm looking forward to upgrading from my dead 2009 xmax 125... gonna have to wait til january and hope I can get my part of Italy's contribution to buy a new motorcycle when they drop it
Spite, you and I have had a very similar progression of bikes. You had the VFR800, I had the CBR500R (my first bike). You went to a 690 SMCR and Hyperstrada, I moved to a 701 SM. You now moved to the Griso, and I moved on to a 1290 Super Adventure S just a couple of weeks ago. Yeah the Griso and 1290 SAS are not the same category of bikes, but the progression is still paralleled. We went from our little punchy sumos to a 520lb-530lb "big" bike. I was definitely not reaching for the keys of my 701 anymore, and it was my only bike!!! lol
Our similar progression of bikes is part of why I like seeing your content, even though I feel we ultimately have a different preference of bikes (I do not like cruisers and Harleys, for example and can also only have 1 bike, so my preferences are also influenced by that). I know you are also an ADV junkie and lust for that Panam. I look forward to when you join the club some day. 🙂 That said, I'm glad you are loving the Griso. I only got 3 rides on my SAS so far also, but I am loving it to pieces. I'm rather shocked how much more confidence I have on my SAS compared to my old 701.
Spite, i think this is your best video to date. I go shopping bikes and i cross shop everything, because in the end its two wheels and a motor. I just have to figure out which one will accomplish what i want within my price range.
Ducati fanboy here. I have a 1260S Back and Steel Diavel and a SFV4S that I’ve draped in almost every piece of Full Six carbon that’s available. Spec sheets don’t mean jack. If it makes you happy, do it. That’s what motorcycling is all about. I also own a Vitpilen 401 and I absolutely love it. It’s about what brings a smile to your face. That’s it. You’re still on 2 wheels and you’re happy. You don’t have to justify it to anyone else. Anyone who preaches hate to you either probably doesn’t ride at all or is trying to justify the only purchase from whatever manufacturer they can afford. Thats it.
I had a motoguzzi breve. To this day it’s still top 2 of all my bikes. Something about it put a huge smile on my face.
I really wanted to post something like this on your last podcast about reviews, but I TOTALLY agree. I wanted an old XL1200R but couldn't quite afford one. I *COULD* afford an XR1200 though, and lots of people online were like "Look at the spec sheet bra!" and "It's the sportiest sportster! It's the best one!" and reviewers were taking that bike out for an hour, thrashing it, and saying "This is peak fucking sportster!"
It's not. It's just not. A hopped up sportster is fun, but the seating position is brutal. It's impossible to ride for any length of time. There's no parts for it, no custom parts, it wants to wheelie in traffic, the clutch is brutally heavy.... I sold it. Now I have an XL1200R, and it's FANTASTIC. It has torque, but I can ride it in traffic. The seat is great and I can spend hours on it. The handlebars let me lean in a bit in the corners and have fun, but I can relax on the straights. It's by all measurable qualities a worse bike, but ITS SO MUCH BETTER.
Have a Griso and 3 other bikes. Like you, I had to learn how to ride it, but wow. Wouldn't change it - such a soulful experience. I think you encapsulated it nicely there, sir. Thanks.
I’ve been riding the same bike for 10 years, a Triumph street triple R. No way I’m going to upgrade to anything. I still love this bike.
Man - what a bike you have there!
I've always loved the Griso and it's still on my wish list.
For now, I'm riding a 23-year-old BMW R1100S which has something of that same appeal: a big, grunty ai/oil-cooled twin-cylinder engine with great suspension and that elusive thing called character.
Here in the UK you can pick up a clean R1100S for £2,500 and mine can more than keep up with my mates who ride far faster newer bikes with ride modes and all that jazz.
You don't have to spend a whole lot of money to have a cool ride and you certainly have that with the Griso 😎
I've got a 2017 Griso in red. Looks the business and has a metric tonne of character. Its quirky, fun and a very under rated motorcycle.
Guzzi's appear to have a soul. Have a V11 Sport, now about 13 years. Never going to sell it. P.s. Harley could not make it. P.s. 2 you can do upshifts wihout clutch, just down on throtle and click.
I had a V11 Sport Scura for a few years. It was awesome, just not a long distance machine, too uncomfortable. But a great hot rod!
Damn your comments on always upgrading hit me. Coming from the UK where when you're young you start on smaller/ less powerful bikes (which to be fair is probably the reason I'm still alive today) I've always been looking for my next bigger/ faster bike, forgetting in the process that, that isn't what riding is about. Next riding season I'm going to focus on what I love most; racking up big miles on 2 wheels with my mates.
"I'm gonna go ride my Guzzi some more", I say that all the time. Love my V85TT, I'm eyeballing a Griso though for the another bike.
Your point of view is a mature and intelligent one. I recently sold my Suzuki SV 650 and kept a Monkey 125 that I enjoy riding. It is only how you feel driving the bike. I am sure that my next bikes will be lighter and lower than the XSR900 that I proudly own as well. Bigger and more powerful does not mean better. Love your channel.
I own a 800cc Adventure bike and I'm looking at getting a 300cc dual sport... not a downgrade just different! Keeping both for the record..
I just finished my first season of riding. Choose the Trident 660, since it seemed like the right deal: calm, maneuverable but also quite good performance. It ahs a slightly delayed throttle but i think that is perfect for a beginner like me and i am really comfortable with it. i will definetly ride it for another season and then see if i actually want a rowdier bike or one, that i can do longer tours with.
Thank you for all your tips and reviews over the past few years Spite, you helped me getting into this hobby 🏍
I've been looking at the trident 660 as my first bike. I'm 28 but I've never ridden before, I'm about to do one of those direct access courses here in the UK. Do you reckon I should go for the trident or would it be smarter to go with something smaller like the new 400cc bike triumph just released?
@@-Eternal-Damnation- i got my license last year when i was 28 :). guess i was in the exact same boat as you. as long as you respect, that the trident has 81 horses you will be fine. It is a rather gentle bike with the three cylinders and delayed throttle. If you grab the quick shifter aswell its perfect. I'd recommend it. BUT allways test drive first :) get like 3-4 bikes you like and testdrive them as close to each other as possible and then decide
I've got an XB9S and it's a blast all the time!
Spite needs to find an XB12 to review! Air cooled, torque-first V-twin in a stumpy, agile little package.
I regrett selling my Griso 1200 every day. It is the best and most motorcycle ever made..😢
Good to see you are still just doing what makes you happy Spite
I have to agree I had a monster 696 and loved it. Except having a bad back made it hurt to ride. I sold it for something that is 250 pounds heavier wet in a dyna street Bob. Absolutely love the idea because I can ride it aggressive still but it’s comfortable
Too true. My R1 is objectively a worse street bike than the Speed Triple I traded for it, but I LOVE the R1 and it makes my heart happy.
So true, I had a tracer900 , awesome bike , fast , nimble everything you would expect from a modern bike ...however, I never felt in control of it, I dont put the miles in over a year. I traded for a vn900 custom. Love it, makes me feel alive. Ride what makes you happy
Spite it'd be interesting to see you include MPG figures in any comparisons. I know its a minor point to most - especially americans I guess - but it's definitely a major stat I look at when comparing bikes, especially bikes with similar power numbers
I bought a C50 boulevard last fall after a long break from 2 wheels, loved it, came across a deal on a Harley Street Glide, sold the C50 and bought that this summer, put 4k miles on it before winter, then about a month ago I wanted something a little smaller, lighter and sportier, I had a SV650S 15+ years ago and loved it, so I was looking at those, then I came across the CFMoto's, I thought why not spend a little more money and get something brand new, got a 650NK and love it, now I'm seeing a lot of chatter about the 800NK, I may trade the 650 in for one of those when the dealer has one I can ride.
Too many people roll their eyes when Moto Guzzi riders talk about "character" with their bikes. Unfortunately, character is the only/best word to describe the wonderfulness of how a person will feel when riding Moto Guzzis. Nope, they're not the fastest nor the most technologically advanced motorcycles out there.... but they make us feel great!
All the young folks are going to buy a high hp, super fast bike eventually. (I did that too with a Fireblade and a VFR1200F )
Later in life you'll realize the fun of riding isn't always racing on public roads .
I'm riding for 30 years now and I downgraded to a 700cc parallel twin and 75hp.... And I have so much fun with it!
I've recently acquired a GL1500. Not ridden it much, as there's a few issues needing sorted. I got this bike to haul the girlfriend around - basically, if she will come out with me (as she's said she will), then this is the best bike for the job. If it's too uncomfortable, or can't carry all her stuff, or she just never wants to, then no other bike will persuade her, because, realistically, it's an ultimate two-up bike.
Also, although it's not my first Wing, it's my first 1500, and there's a good chance that I'll really enjoy it solo. If not, I may just get another cruiser. The thing about ultimate dream bikes, though, is that once you have them, you're kinda stuck. There's nowhere else to go. Do you want to ride that same bike for the rest of your life?
I also have a Griso 1200 8v SE. I agree with you 100%. I have owned a 179 motorcycles, and the Griso is one of the very best ones. I only need to get a better tune on it, since it has a little bit of a flat spot at around 3500 rpm. I feels so good to ride, every single time I take it out. I have 6 other bikes and I love them all, but this one is very special. I had a V7 and thought it was cool looking but very underwhelming to ride. The Griso is fast and burly. It is also so unique! We used to make fun of Moto Guzzis when I was a kid. I remember the Ambassador 700 and how ugly and weird it was. Not the newer bikes, they are so cool looking now. Great review!
The '06 Ninja 650 that I've had for over 17 years is practically out the door with both an upgrade & a downgrade taking its place in the garage. My upgrade is an Aprilia 750 Shiver that's the antithesis of my Ninja, demanding your full attention all the time, lest it kill you with its snappy throttle & grabby clutch. And I love every minute riding it. And the downgrade is a Yamaha 225 Scorpio, a nugget of a little bike that barely beats a Grom off the line, but its air cooled thumper of an engine will take a hell of a beating. That little thing got me from work to home in 17 minutes flat when the Ninjas best has never been lower than 15 minutes. If. like me, you measure motorcycle performance in smiles per mile, the only measurement that really matters, then both of these bikes are a huge upgrade.
This is why I love my vintage triumphs. I’ve got a 1975 T160 trident that’s just gorgeous but a couple years ago I got a 2000 triumph legend that I think is also beautiful except it’s not falling apart all the time and breaking down and it’s easier to start, and it usually always starts which is nice. But I really love that bike. I love both of those bikes as matter fact because there’s just something about them the way they handle the way they feel the way they look and sound to me I just love the feel of that three cylinder engineand that almost jungle cat silhouette that they have sure they’re not modern bikes they don’t do 200 miles an hour but the speed limits 75 here no need to go to much faster than that and even it’s slow speed. These spikes are fun though much more fun at high-speed.
Pretty cool to watch you evolve as a rider.
Good video, just to ear the way you talk, you have a lot of fun with.
I have a griso 1200 SE, and really like it, so much fun to ride. Sur I miss the power of my diavel, but the griso is more capable on a little back road. And the simplicity of the mechanics, and cost of maintenance it's good factor for the guzzi.
Last falls I bought a use v85tt, and I can tell you how much I like this motorcycle to,for different raison. Guzzi made a really good motorcycle with soul. Thank you guzzi for that. 👍. I think I have the perfect combo for less what cost one ducati.
Agree with everything you say here except that the Griso isn't as good looking as a Ducati Hyper, not so! I'm fortunate to won three bikes and my most recent acquisition is a 42 y.o. Laverda 500 twin. Recommissioning it is improving my bike fixing skills (it's low mileage but has been laid up for a while), and while it 'only' make 45 bhp (my V7 850 Guzzi makes more), it's light, flickable and comes on the cam at 6000 rpm making it a treat on UK back roads. That it's gorgeous doesn't hurt either. You don't need 150 bhp to have fun
My guess preferences. You come across more like a road warrior (crushing miles) vs go fast. Go fast just isn't comfortable
IDK about performance or reliability; but the Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello S and the Triumph rocket 3 are the best looking bikes out today. That being said I'm buying a Honda f6b for some cross-country comfort.
Haha, I start looking at my next bike right after I get my last one. Shopping and researching bikes for me is as much fun as riding
Guzzi's are all about the experience; how they make you feel. I've ridden three times as many miles on my V7 850 this summer as I rode on my Honda CB500F last year. The Guzzi is more fun; but the real secret is the shaft drive. No more sore knees lubing or adjusting the chain to put me off riding.
It is too bad they don't make this bike anymore. I had a V7 for a while, but traded it in on a Sportster 48 which I like better with some comfort mods Moto Guzzi doesn't have. I don't think I have a next bike in mind for now unless I get into long distance touring.
Oh you can do long distance touring on a Sportster. Ask me how I know 🙂
@@theorthobiker While technically possible, I think I would prefer not to, on a 48 with the small gas tank especially.
Thanks Spite for a thoughtful recap over your purchase of a "downgrade" bike - I only have two bikes, but I love them both - the Royal Enfield 650 INT ( with air filter upgrade and end can upgrade - almost too noisy now! - but a huge improvement in HP now 65HP and torque and fun - does the ton easily) and an R1200RT - full of torque and heavy and a bit of fun - and comfortable! One bike is fun, the other is cruising the miles in comfort and day trips with the missus on the back!
Your style and professional finish to your vids is testament to your skills, your experience in the game, and your riding skills.
The Moto Guzzi Griso is a "classic" motorcycle and you love it - you bought one haha! It shows you are mellowing, gaining more experience in judging motorcycle criteria based on rider needs - not just specifics of HP and top speed! Technology doesn't matter when you enjoy a good bike without it. Horses for courses. We are all going to ride our bikes on the highway, around the curves, the suburbs, and the stop and go. If we want a bike for the weekend race track, then buy one that suits that!! But we all need a stablemate that does what we want, effortlessly and with fun and comfort - the Griso does that!!! Thanks, Graeme NZ
An older bike with character.
Ace's a new super-duper bike with all the gadgets.
It won't break the bank.
Provides all the entertainment you want in the real world.
Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
I'm based in the UK and bought the new Honda CB750 Hornet in March, I have got 8500 miles on it and it is an absolute delight to ride and never fails to put a smile on my face, I really hope it makes its way over to the states it will sell like hotcakes as its such a great bike and an absolute snip at £6999.
The odd thing is that the Transalp 750 is already available, at least in Canada. I would take that to mean that's it's no accident that the Hornet didn't make it here.