Iffath: Former Ahmadiyya Muslim
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2023
- Iffath is a former member of the Ahmadiyya Muslim community, a messianic sect of Islam considered heretical by most mainstream Muslims. Growing up in the USA in the state of Tennessee, she struggled with the multitude of restrictions placed on her, especially since she was female.
The inner conflict she experienced led to decades of depression and self-loathing. A series of events beginning with the market crash of 2008 led her to deep inner work including personal development, meditation, and intuitive development practices. Eventually, her inner guidance system became so strong that she was able to drop the chains of her prescribed religion and live authentically.
Although a multi-business owner, Iffath is focused on sharing her story to help others. She hopes to shine a light in the dark for anyone who yearns to live in alignment with their true selves.
Iffath lives outside of Atlanta, GA with her real estate developer husband and three amazing children. She considers it her greatest privilege to be able to raise her kids with love instead of fear.
You can learn more about her upcoming book here: iffath.com/book/
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I appreciate the love and respect 💗
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Iffath, you are such a brave and wise soul. Thank you for your open heart and for your sharing. This interview is incredible.
Thank you Celeste 💕
Allah bless you
🙏❤️I am so proud of you both for having the courage to find yourself
It's clear that Iffath has been through a lot! God Bless her!
They have no caliph, but an influential madman scamming them for their money, protection racketeering. Those Mirzais are no different to their genetic template - Jehovah's witness.
Look at:
Tahir Mansoor Khan's children being kidnapped
Amatul Rashid raped
Fauzia Faizi
Fiona O'Leary being attacked by Mirzais
Rana Abrar and Chowdhury Yousuf Ahmed being killed
Girls within the Mirzai cult being ostracised and disfellowshipped for marrying boys outside their temples
Protection racketeering under the pretence of Chanda or Jigga tax
Ruhani Khazain, Braheen e Ahmadiyya, Najm us Saqib, etc... that lie about Jesus (peace be upon him)
Hi Iffath and Yasmin Mohammed, Here is THE THIRD KAFIR (in Islamic terms) besides the two of you! Thank you for sharing this nice and informative livestream. I just watched the recording. You both are brave ladies!
I AM a CHRISTIAN (Follower of The Lord Jesus Christ) MAN, was born in PAKISTAN (PANJAB) in a CHRISTIAN family, grew up in PAKISTAN in a CHRISTIAN family, came to the USA (New Jersey) as a student, and have lived in NJ for a long time. I NEVER was a MUSLIM, NEVER will be, and NOT an EX-MUSLIM either! STILL according to the MISINFORMED MUSLIMS, I am a KAFIR like both of you! In Our Beloved Pakistan, probably all three of us will be chased EQUALLY!
I had a college classmate who is an AHMADI. At the university in ISLAMABAD, I knew more AHMADIS, and met some in the USA.
Here is a book that AN EX-MUSLIM (AHMADI) PAKISTANI AMERICAN wrote that you may like to take a look at: SEEKING ALLAH, FINDING JESUS. He went to HEAVEN (NOT THE JANNAH) at an early age. His name was DR. NABEEL QURESHI. He was a Medical Doctor and born in the USA in a MUSLIM (AHMADI) family. He wrote other books too and has a number of TH-cam videos.
www.amazon.com/Seeking-Allah-Finding-Jesus-Christianity/dp/0310092647
Stay safe!
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All Mirzais like this Nabeel Qureshi is facing punishment
@@TheLatiosnlatias02 Why did THE LOST PROPHET face PUNISHMENT when THE JEWISH WOMAN KILLED HIM with LOVE (DELICIOUS LAMB)! How about AHMED DEEDAT? Were they BOTH MIRZAI'S too!
Your stupidity can be your ticket to Hell. So watch it before you give me your dumb question!
That is a question you should ask on Judgement Day.
Much support to you Yasmine!
For all those who left Islam and Ahmadiyyat kindly share how there lives have changed and your new founded freedom given you joy and success and how different it is from the life you left behind
Thank you for your question. Personally, I don't live in constant fear as I once did. As such, I suffer from less anxiety and depression which enables me to be more present for my family and more enjoyable to be around. I am now less judgmental of myself and others, which has allowed me to form deeper, loving and accepting relationships. This is only a sampling of my changes but I hope it answers your question :)
That is great and leaving behind all the wrong people did to you what about your relationship with God Almighty and conviction in your prayer and was there anything that you regret now that you are starting over
@@bushramalik8536, respectfully, I think you're misreading into Iffath's words with your phrase, "all the wrong people did to you". She's not blaming fallible people. She disagrees with the underlying theology, unless your view is that Ahmadiyyat isn't a representation of the underlying theology of Islam. I'd encourage you to download her free first book chapter.
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Beautiful testimony from beautiful women. Love and respect. Congratulations for leaving the darkness to the light.
Hi Iffat, a question if you will please. It seems like after relinquishing faith you are happy and feel yourself. And perhaps you are able to enjoy life and freedom way more than you could while you adhered to a faith system. What are your objectives in proselytizing your “religion”called “no religion”. For example I am an Ahmadi Muslim who converted from main stream Sunni Islam to Ahmadiyyat. Now I feel the greatest urge to let others know about Ahmadi concepts . And I have a clear objective that I want everyone who I reach out to or try to convey my message to, to get the ultimate reward in a life that I believe is much more longer or ever lasting. I would never want to go to someone and tell him/her that accept Ahmadiyya and you will get all the happiness in this life or you will become free of all burdens and restrictions you currently have. In fact, I know that if the person receiving my message accepts it, he will most certainly have hard time from people around him. I would hate for him to experience the hate or isolation from the community. But since I believe that the repercussion and isolation that person would feel is totally worth it, I would be most happy at his acceptance of my message (Ahamdiyyah in this case). I think you and I share the part of isolation and repercussion when our listeners accept our messages. What do you achieve by letting others know to leave the shackles of religion. And of course, if a person feels shackled with any religious system should brake the chains and live a life that gives him happiness. And if your efforts including writing a book encouraging people already feel chained are aimed at providing a support system to those individual then I totally understand and agree that people who give up a faith system should be allowed to live a life that gives them happiness.
From your question, "What do you achieve by letting others know to leave the shackles of religion", I think the sentences that follow are a beautiful answer to your own question:
"Your efforts including writing a book encouraging people already feel chained are aimed at providing a support system to those individual then I totally understand and agree that people who give up a faith system should be allowed to live a life that gives them happiness."
I would like to know how you know any of this is real. If you find meaning in it fine but don’t push it on others
The "girls cant do this" thing is culture rather than religious teachings
Thats so sad to hear that Ex Ahmadi talking about chanda but they dont realize that they are paying forcefully taxes to govt and they are not talking about taxes because IRS Federal govt will arrest them very unfortunate
Chanda is being spent on needy people widow women orphan children etc they are not care to talk about the the effects and use of that chanda in community very sad
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Just like Islam is not Christianity and Christianity is not Judaism and so on and so forth, Ahmadiyya is not Islam. It's not that difficult to grasp
Reminds me of the difference in doctrine between Christianity and Mormonism. And if you ask most Christians they would say Mormons aren't Christians, but if you ask the Mormons they're Christians....the whole Ahmadhiyya movement also was contemporary with the founding of Mormonism.
Just looking and listening to you two beautiful Ladies is so meaningful to me,
I was a convert to the Ahmaddiyya movement but that was a terrible decision on my part! I only joined because I wanted silent prayer and to experience more peace in my life but honestly as Gay man it was HELL ON EARTH! It was absolutely SUFFOCATING! There were so many absolutely IDIOTIC and GROSSLY STUPID restrictions that in the end I just felt had absolutely NOTHING TO DO WITH MY RELATIONSHIP WITH ALLAH WHATSOEVER!
THE Calipha's attitude and stance towards Gay people was so ignorant, idiotic and stupid and homophobic that I honestly felt that he was CALLOUSLY EVIL and in the end I said just exactly what I thought of him in a WHATSAPP group organised for new members! I was ordered to apologise but I couldn't do that! Right or wrong I had spoken from so deep in my heart after immense soul searching of about 6 months that as far as I concerned I had spoken was true. I still believe this to this day! The Calipha doesn't care about Gay people living happy fulfilling lives at all! Gay people's lives are treated as being entirely DISPOSABLE! There's no understanding, no critical thinking and no respect! Only a great deal of self righteousness, blindness, ignorance and stupidity!
Following my outburst I was pretty much "sent to Coventry" and almost instantly treated as an outcast but since I had already decided to just quietly walk away and leave I honestly really didn't care! I then stopped going to prayers with my local group but apart from a couple of WHATSAPP messages I was left in peace!
I also left the area where the local Ahmadi group lived and so that was pretty much it! I did receive a couple of genuine really sincere phone calls a couple of months later and I had a sincere honest conversation with them. I was even encouraged to stand up and fight for my beliefs within the movement but as I said to them the stress was KILLING ME! I told them that I was leaving the movement but that I WASN'T leaving Allah/God which I think really shocked them a bit as far as I can tell but it was the truth! The Calipha is very unlikely to change his views which POISON the entire community and so I'm really glad to be well out of it!
I have to say that I did have a conversation with a very intelligent and empathetic Ahmadi Iman who was absolutely streets ahead of the Calipha on this matter (Gay men's lives) but ultimately although the guy was a really good man he isn't the Calipha and only has limited influence and doesn't even deliver kutbahs!
I'm now a Hindu and I'm just so much happier. I have strong affiliations too with (liberal) Reform Jews and various other liberal faith groups which all in all is really nice!
I can spiritually breathe now and that is the most important thing of all!
Real faith and true spirituality are God-given,this is the fundamental idea that the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is based on.Isalm is not about stories and rituals ,it's a living faith,a faith in which God,Angels,revelation,prophethood and destiny become realities that you experience with no doubt,I think every Ahmadi Muslim who doesn't understand this,should really worry because he's standing on the edge of a cliff,Allah says:And most men will not believe even though thou eagerly desire it.
True
Real faith is personal and doesn’t just mean Islam. There are thousands of other faiths you could learn about if you had an open mind
You lie. That Mirzai cult is a carbon copy of Jehovah's Witness and you're just doing this to mislead others with your nonsense.
Keep doing what you are doing.....people will notice and the change will happend......your efforts wont go into wein....
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Yasmin made me Laugh,
Hijab not forced, just coerced...
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever! Are you a narcissist!?
Be ex muslims and learn from them ..the Status of women ..
Well. She can say and explain anything to in order to run her stream.
What 'stream' are you referring to? Can you expand? I didn't follow. Thanks.
Beautiful Islam Quran my sister
🎉 glad theres at least one person i share genes with that has a brain in my family
Thank you for finding me and illustrating the power of sharing one's story. We are not alone.
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Loved this conversation thanks so much. Just wanted to say that main stream Judaism’s concept of faith is most often used in the context of awful inexplicable experiences we don’t understand. Such as, the Arab world hates the Jews, the western world seems to support the hate from the middle east, we Jews have to have faith that we will not perish from this but instead join together and peace will come out in the end. That kind of faith . Not faith to just keep shut and do what you’re told. That’s why so many Jews are lawyers I think. It’s imbedded In the culture to ask questions constantly and read a thousand different opinions different ways interpreting the religious books and discussing all of the opinions only to conclude that none are ultimately right or wrong. Very different system it seems from that of Islam or Christianity.
Iffath you have never been a Muslim apart from when you were a child - as all children are innocent.... may Allah guide you both back to truth
Listening to Iffath it seems that she had no problem with the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat but the problem was with her strict backward minded parents. However by raising her own children without any religion or belief in God will not be a good idea.
She mentions an experience with the hijab over most of her life, and how it did not sit well with her. This is having a problem with the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama'at and with Islam itself. Religion certainly can provide structure, community, and a starting point on how to orient one's life, but that utility is lost if it doesn't resonate, and causes fiction and unhappiness (let alone not believing it is actually true).
If she joined any other sect of Islam and followed their beliefs it would be far stricter whereas Allah swt says that He has made Religion easy for us, just listen to the Mullahs of the other sects and tell me who follows them fully.
This Channel is low on patronage. Your knowledge and the impact is far more greater in Exmuslim area.
🌹الاحمديه مسلمين يؤمنون بالقرأن والحديث هم جماعه من السنه تعتقد ان امامهم أو قاءدهم يختاره الله لهم ليرشدهم
I'm not a Muslim nor do I reject ahmadi as Muslim infact I like them but
If Muslim means follower of Muhammad as the last prophet, how can someone who believes in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad who call himself as prophet after Muhammad and contradicts many of Islam basic teachings and included Hindu mythology in it, yet can still call himself Muslim when he don't believe in Muhammad as the last prophet...
Seems like a basic logical contradiction.
Unfortunately this kind of mental dissociation is commonplace through the lenses of faith.
An Ahmadi here. I am astonished of the sincerity of Ifftah. If she is still searching for the truth. My advice to her is just one thing. Read at least two or three books of the Promised Messiah and you would be back to Islam Ahmadiyya- The true Islam. The fact of the matter is most do not read but look upon their parents to teach them, their parents when absent will therefore leave a big gap for them in their faith. When their friends who also don’t read fail to answer their questions, they take it like it is a loop hole. There is no question that anyone can ask today that has not been asked before and answered. It is for you though to agree with the answer or not.
I don't think we should confuse living with an open mind with "still searching for the truth." Would you consider yourself still searching for the truth, even though you seem convinced of Ahmadiyyat? While believers may not consciously intend it, this language can often come across as a bit patronizing. Iffath's late parents and existing family were/are (1) very devout, (2) educated, (3) loving Ahmadi Muslims.
Regarding, "There is no question that anyone can ask today that has not been asked before and answered" do you realize that most every denomination of every religion makes this claim?
The operative question then, is not what has been 'answered', but whether people find those answers satisfactory and acceptable. That is of course, for individuals to decide, and they may decide differently than you have.
@@ReasononFaith Had you read what I wrote your answer would have been shorter.
I used “if” throughout, and also said it lies on the person whether the answer is agreeable to them or not.
Thank you for your clarification, @@AhmadiGh. I agree; it is up to the person to decide. Apologies for misunderstanding/misreading your original comment.
I was a devout Ahmedi untill i read Mirza’s book.Once I red it I knew he was a dajjal created by British.I know you never red any of his book
@@AhmadiGh Do you know your Ahmad gulam mirza died in his own diarrhea? Did you he was asked to heal people who were in wheel chair but he close his door on them? Go study why a Musilm is killing other Muslims?
Read Black September in Jordon Google those words and read it Ok?
#Ahmadiyyat101
As an Ahmadi Muslim, to me
clearly, she didn’t had much interest in spirituality, God or religion, and wanted to be “free spirit” like many others, and get immersed in the worldliness.
She has freedom of choice, and matter is between her and her God !
Ahmedia are not Muslim at all
@@mansoorahmed8026 Who cares what you think. Ahmadies are NOT looking for any certificate from you.
You can't be called "Ahmadi" or "Muslim". You're pawn of an influential madman running that cult.
This Ahmadiyya organisation seems to have waged war on the innocent, sincere, and intelligent types of people. No wonder the best quality people wind up leaving this rotten cult that exploits them financially, emotionally and socially. I feel bad for the girls (including lajna imaillahs) and children who grow up in this cult and don't know any better or that madman's intentions. These temples are paid for with money stolen from you and other weak-minded pawns done through protection racketeering which was mislabelled “chanda” which is also called jigga tax.
Whistle blowers like Ahmad Karim Sheikh, Shahid Kamal, Fauzia Faizi, Samina Khan help to slow the progress of oligarchical forces that drive all organisations.
Cult brainwashes girls and children by mirzai temple with ruhani khazain, najm us saqib, braheen ahmadiyya, tadhkira and mta gloves. I have noticed that Ahmadiyya, ISKCON, Mormons, True Buddha School, Baha'is, SDA, JWs and many other pseudo religions will attract vulnerable people such as the mentally ill, outcasts, poor, weak minded and malcontents in society where they'd get exploited financially, socially and emotionally. Who hasn't been taken advantage, scammed or ripped off by a business vendor or salesperson? The same applies to those who preach false doctrine.
I feel so sorry for these teenagers and children they have the most boring lives ever.
Their parents drag them to meetings for grown ups and expect them to listen...
If you have children, you really failed them as a parent.
How can you say that she didn’t have interest in spirituality
@@Moodus55 I got that from her multiple remarks that how dismissive she is and how casually she disregards many Islamic injunctions.
It sounds like well you’re not being forced to wear the hijab you are certainly being coerced, emotionally, manipulated, and pressured into it
Madam, I have a suggestion. I think your knowledge and the way you are able to articulate challenges faced by many good people born in Muslim family who are unable to question their religion or leave it. I think you should have a TH-cam channel on Exmuslim movement separately. I guess there are millions who can speak for women’s right but less than 100 TH-camrs who can make Islamic world less extremist and more accommodative of apostates. you would be a great asses and you will get 500k ( half million) users in no time. In that TH-cam channel you can have a women’s activism as a smaller part of it.
Unfortunately there is noise of immam Mahdi but who appointed by the Allah orders the refuted peoples do not think to came under his abidence .Harat Mohammad saw had came the Rehmatullillalamin for the world .But do not open thier eyes that the rehmat or bless cannot finished to sanctions on Ahmadies that they cannot performed the islamic path .yeh kaisy bud qismat muslims hi yahoud ki turh kehty hi ki Anhazoor saw ka inkar karo .jistarh wo kehty they ki Essa as ki jotha nabi kaho or usky rastah per na chalou .this is truthfull disscriptions by Quran that thier mostly things or believes will like yahoud .May Allah haddyet them and these ullamah also inki jahalet ky perdy khatem ho .Anhazoor saw is not the muslims prperty they were appointed for the World .
As an Ahmadi Muslim, I appreciate you saying that we are kindest Muslims. It is a shame that your parents were not able to explain the scientific and psychological reasons behind Islam, this is a common problem in the Ahmadi Muslim community at the moment. Feel free to check out my happiness classes based on Islam. Anyone is welcome to suggest topics and take part.
😂😂😂 science in islam???? Oh u r Mohhamad's follower so u have right to say only lie
Bro I invite you to True Islam. Not trying to spread hate but atleast accept the true Islam 😢
I don't want you to be in misguided cult.
@@comparativereligiondailynews 😂😂😂
Islam is a fanatical mafia cult with not even an iota of originality excepting discriminatory and demonic concepts such as kafir, umma, hijab, jihad, polygamy, halal and sex slavery etc.
As a person in her family, also born Ahmadi, I will say the exact opposite. Ahmadis are the furthest thing from true kindness. Only in appearance. Masters of manipulation.
Edit: I’m referring to the family more closely related to me in Canada and Pakistan.
If you are considered as non muslim, better to convert to some other religion or else you are neither here nor there..
they despise the kafirs as they are despised by their own breathen. dont be befooled. These Ahmadiyas were the architect of Pakistan!
That's an assumption made by theists that one *needs* a religious identity. I would encourage you to reflect on where you inherited that assumption.
@@ReasononFaith give me a functional society of atheists. In the human civilization time span , none have survived nor could thrive longer, other than remain a text book utopia, often at the cost of disasters like mao's cultural revolution.
@@ReasononFaith one of the fundamental flaws of atheists is that humans are logical. Irrational behavior will not be supported by the majority. Conscience is all encompassing and brotherhood and healthy society is their ultimate objective.
A religion that thrives on the survival of ideology that kills, segregates and divides is not for humanity. What atheists miss is the fact that abrahamic faiths are new to this. Not pagans. Pagans had atheists and they have thrived well. Ajivika has thrived but died out as I have stated above. Please read better
Atheism is simply the the rejection of religious truth claims,@@sreyanshuchaterjee3962. It is not a prescriptive ideology in and of itself. Secular Humanism is one of the options you should compare it too, and look to Scandinavian countries for their happiness and prosperity.
Ahmadi , Qadiani or Mirzai are called Ahmadia jamaat. They are more fundamentalist, conservative and fanatic than ordinary Sunni or Shia.
"Qadiani" and "Mirzai" are derogatory terms for Ahmadi Muslims. Yes, they can be more fundamentalist in some areas, and also more progressive in others. This is why Professor Afzal Upal titled his book on the cognitive science of religion using the Jama'at as a case study, "Moderate Fundamentalists".
Yes, Ahamdies are who made Suicide bombers, beheaded people and always ready to destroy the peace in society.
This Ahmadiyya organisation seems to have waged war on the innocent, sincere, and intelligent types of people. No wonder the best quality people wind up leaving this rotten cult that exploits them financially, emotionally and socially. I feel bad for the girls (including lajna imaillahs) and children who grow up in this cult and don't know any better or that madman's intentions. These temples are paid for with money stolen from you and other weak-minded pawns done through protection racketeering which was mislabelled “chanda” which is also called jigga tax.
Whistle blowers like Ahmad Karim Sheikh, Shahid Kamal, Fauzia Faizi, Samina Khan help to slow the progress of oligarchical forces that drive all organisations.
Cult brainwashes girls and children by mirzai temple with ruhani khazain, najm us saqib, braheen ahmadiyya, tadhkira and mta gloves. I have noticed that Ahmadiyya, ISKCON, Mormons, True Buddha School, Baha'is, SDA, JWs and many other pseudo religions will attract vulnerable people such as the mentally ill, outcasts, poor, weak minded and malcontents in society where they'd get exploited financially, socially and emotionally. Who hasn't been taken advantage, scammed or ripped off by a business vendor or salesperson? The same applies to those who preach false doctrine.
I feel so sorry for these teenagers and children they have the most boring lives ever.
Their parents drag them to meetings for grown ups and expect them to listen...
If you have children, you really failed them as a parent.
@@ReasononFaithNo offense Sohail, but get a job. We knot that you left Islam Ahmadiyyat, because you had your reasons. But it doesn't justify what you're doing here. I read a lot of your works, which are also written by some other people, and found many theological and formal mistakes. No only these were pointed out, you just deflected them with nonsense reasons, such as "I don't read Urdu" also a former member of yours, spoke open about how you handle things inside your own build "cult". But I won't share the name of that person.
@@yoriichitsugikuni8414 thank you for sharing the modern face of Ahmadiyya Islam. Every response has a counter. I’m sorry you felt so taken by the Jama’at ’responding’ to some of my material and being fooled into thinking you don’t need to reflect on it. It is precisely because I have a job I am not producing content including all of the juicy Jama’at material ripe for dissection. Have your Khalifa fund an independently run double blind prayer study as your Messiah boasted about. He cannot and will not, because he knows it will reveal the fraud. Something your Jama’at has a history of with claims of “80 million converts” in one year.
Ex Muslims are more enlightened and a level above Sunni and Shia groups. I am not above Ahmadia groups which has even lotus temple in Delhi.
Lotus temple belongs to Bahai’s not Ahmedia
At least have some knowledge before commenting about Ahmadi Muslims. Don’t mix between Baha’ism and Ahmadiyya Islam.
In Islam there is no compulsion in religion and as the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat is peace loving there is obviously no such thing as a death threat unlike some of the other sects.
It's great that there's no death for apostasy doctrine in Ahmadiyya Islam, although the legacy of mujaddideen who Ahmadiyyat officially recognizes have written in favour of death for blasphemy (Ibn Taymiyya, for example), there is a strong degree of emotional coercion present that makes it difficult for most born Ahmadi Muslims who are non-believers to be honest with their family or community about their non-belief, sadly.
@@ReasononFaith FYI - Ahmadies follow Quran. No one is above Quran. It just simply doesn’t mater what any one else says
Really? Ahmadiyya is another name for a carbon copy of Jehovah's Witness.
It’s really a game or ploy of seduction inherently infused with corruption to get people to buy the organisation's fake books (ruhani khazain, Tufa-i-Gooladia, kashti-nooh, braheen e ahmadiyya, najam us saqib, tadhkira, etc...). The game is money, power and control and unfortunately like all the very young people who weren't mentally mature enough to be aware or realise this. This organisation is such a fraud, they place Islamic veil on the front of the most its prominent buildings, when this corrupt has absolutely nothing to do with Islam. And that madman Masroor Ahmad will do anything to keep his agenda going. Average mirzais don’t even know what that madman is doing behind their backs.
I began to think how you lot were setting up your lives to have such a limited, blinded view.
That cult has nothing to do with Islam.
Driving a wedge in "believing" families by splitting congregations and enhancing loyalty to the organisation is another of the cult's factors.
The influential madman running this cult sees persecution as a good thing; the more the merrier.
It's quite a sick way if thinking. No, suffering is not good.
Plus, they like to claim they're the "most peaceful-loving persecuted" cult.
There are plenty of other denominations like yours in hot water.
If they want to go by that logic, then the other religions must be the "truth."
They even criticise other religions.
Your carbon copy of Jehovah's Witness The organisation loves to play the victim, something they claim Ex mirzais like to do. Nope. When there's injustice a normal person is supposed to go against it.
Next time someone wants to tell you about their cult, agree with them in every detail, but then fabricate some minor disagreement (over, I dunno, how to pronounce whatsoever), act all shocked, but then look them straight in the eyes and say "I'm sorry you were tricked into worshipping Satan." Let's see how they react!
That madman is a super hustler. This mirzai organised cult is a business while "love for all hate for none" is nothing but a marketing slogan. People are deceived on ALL fronts by that madman. Mythology on All levels! THE ONLY TECHNOLOGY COMING OUT OF AHMADIYYA IS TRICKNOLOGY.
The whole Khalifa system of the Mirzais set up by an influential madman
They really covered all the bases in this one:
1. Be an obedient puppet/zombie/robot; independent, critical thinkers are evil
2. We most definitely [redacted] hide files that exposes the true colours of your cult.
3. We force people to squeeze money and pretend it's "chanda" when it happens to children, but if that makes you, Mirzai puppets, look bad then it was someone else's fault.
4. If you're a girl in a violent relationship, sit down, shut up, and take it or else be ostracised, shunned, disfellowshipped and ex-communicated!
This is not true: Moderate Muslims like yourself can be turned into extreme Muslims (some argue real, orthodox Muslims) quickly when they learn about the principle of abrogation (earlier verses like Surah 2:62, 256, are declared not valid anymore and replaced by verses that were allegedly "revealed" by later verses, like Surah 9:5, 29, 30 73). It is an accepted principle by all four schools in Sunni Islam by concensus and is used heavily as a tool to radicalise Muslims.
@@TheLatiosnlatias02They certainly don't seem to want anyone who thinks for themselves!
As long as no one is being harmed everyone is free to live out their Islam in the ways that make most sense to them!
Unfortunately the Ahmadi leadership particularly under the Calipha is absolutely terrible! Instead of a spiritual community you have a cult of non-violent religious fundamentalists!
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Muslim is one who believes in Oneness of Allah and Prophet Muhammad SAW is the last messenger of Allah.
Now it is clear that Ahmadia are not Muslims because they believe that Prophet Muhammad SAW is not their last Prophet but Mirza ghulam is their last Prophet.
Your premise about 'last' instead of 'seal' that leads you to your conclusion is precisely what Ahmadiyya Islam theology makes a case against, especially with the orthodox belief of Jesus coming again in latter days, rendering him to be the 'last', and confusing the entire assumption.
A Muslim is one who believes in the “ONENESS of Allah and that Muhammad (saw) is the messenger of Allah”. This is the translation of ‘Kalima’. There’s no word ‘LAST’ in the Arabic version.
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Anything that deviate from Quran and sunnah is not Islam.
The Jamaat does have a system of Chanda which is NOT compulsory, no one gets expelled from the Jamaat if they can't afford it, people WANT to pay. People are punished for doing something against the teachings of Islam and the punishment is that they cannot pay Chanda, if the Jamaat was desperate for the money why would they refuse money? When an Ahmedi Muslim can't pay Chanda they cry and realise that this blessings has been lost to them. No other sects would refuse money.
Personally, I see this at an attempt at reverse psychology. Even if one took the view of the Jama'at as wanting people's money, this refusal of alms from people who have been punished or suspended is good for 'business'. You see, the psychological narrative and fear created through control ensures more money in aggregate comes in from people than the temporary loss from a few individuals who are being punished. In business, this isn't too different from a 'loss leader'.
An Ahmadi Muslim woman who marries a Sunni Muslim man without permission from the Khalifa of the organization will face this. You say that is is that: "People are punished for doing something against the teachings of Islam and the punishment is that they cannot pay Chanda". However, marrying a Sunni Muslim man is not against Islam, it is a 'crime' against the administrative rules of the Jama'at, superimposed upon the core provisions allowed for by Islam in the Qur'an.
Dirty works within their temple!
If the Mirzai is a girl or a child in a violent relationship, she's forced to sit down, shut up, and take it or else she'd face being ostracised, shunned, disfellowshipped and ex-communicated!
That carbon copy of Jehovah's Witness reeks double-standards.
Ahmadiyya extorts chanda money quite a protection racketeering.
Mirzai pawns get kicked for not paying jigga tax or marrying anyone out of of their temple.
Mirzais are forced to believe in homeopathy medicine
Mirzais are publicly disfellowshipped, expelled and humiliated after being kicked out of the cult.
Being disfellowshipped from a cult of religious fundamentalists whether Ahmadi or not isn't all in all that much of a bad thing and the humiliation that you speak of isn't that much of a humiliation if all it amounts to is expulsion from a cult of UNDISCERNING, UNCRITICAL THINKING religious FUNDAMENTALISTS! Seems like a lucky escape to me!😂😂
Came too Islam Quran my sister heavan Incha Allah my sister
Ahmadaiayat is Nursery of Atheism in Muslim community
Anyone who left Islam Ahmadiyya and Islam had not undersood the soul and sacred logic of their religion!!! ALLAH guide and keep those on right path who ask it from ALLAH.
Replace "Islam" with "Christianity" and "Ahmadiyya" with "Mormon" in your sentence and you'll start to grasp how your statement sounds to everyone else, including those of us who left Ahmadiyya Islam.
I am exmuslim from India I left Islam five years ago
u are brainwashed by christians
Read Quran, this is a message from God...the hadiths of prophet Muhammad are not from God...quran is from God ...he did not sentence women to purdah or hijab , that was done by cowards who worship prophet Muhammad and Islam instead of God
Even in the Quran Allah is telling the prophet to tell his wives to cover and his companion too
@@armaanahmed9638 in the Quran, that commandment is for prophets wives , commandment to them only from God , not Muhammad and God specifically states that He did that because they are the prophets wives and should not be seen like other women ...and nothing is said about companions...that is what you try to include to bring filth into the truth ...the verse says to prophets wives to be seen different from all others so if you include companions then how would prophets wives be seen differently...God never ordered purdah on all women ...this would violate equality and do you think that God is against equality ?
Is that your praise of Him ?
Waht do you praise and why ?
Read Quran....that is where the truth is
@@vakilahmad8085 Qur'an 33:59 tells Muhammad to ask his family members and other Muslim women to wear outer garments when they go out, so that they are not harassed: O Prophet! Ask your wives, daughters, and believing women to draw their cloaks over their bodies.
@@vakilahmad8085 Well, in Surah An-Nut, Allah Almighty said:
“…and not display their beauty except what is apparent, and they should place their khumur over their bosoms…”
The word Khumur here is the plural of Khimar, which is a word referring to a large veil covering the head, neck, and chest. The word Khimar is used widely in the Middle East to refer to tall hijabs, mainly in Egypt.
@@vakilahmad8085 O Prophet! Say to your wives, your daughters, and the women of the believers that: they should let down upon themselves their jalabib.”
The word Jalabib is the plural of Jilbab, which refers to a loose clothing article popular in the Middle East among Muslim women and women.
In some dictionaries, Jilbab is listed as a loose dress that the woman puts on her head and leaves down her body, so it covers both her hair and her chest.
Ahmaddiyae are not Muslims.
Ahmadia are not Muslim
Shia are not Muslim
Ismailia are not Muslim
Zaidia are not Muslim
Alavites are not Muslim
Brelvis are not Muslim
Deobandis are not Muslims
Salafis are not Muslim
I'm not saying that, their Ulema call eachother nonmuslim 😅😅
@@shairafzal9347 Muslim is one who believes in Oneness of Allah and Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is the last messenger of Allah.
Now it is clear that Ahmadia are not Muslims because they don't believe in Prophet Muhammad SAW.
@@laibawahid297 though I'm not ahmadi but I know they believe in prophet Muhammad and they follow all hadiths in the six books and they follow the jurisprudence of imam Abu hanifa. They say that Mirza sahib is promised maseha and a Nabi from the ummat of prophet Muhammad. I personally don't believe in all this but nobody has right to label those who recite the shahadas as nonmuslim.
Their kalima is
La ilaha illa Allah
Muhammad Ur Rasool ullah
Not Ghulam Ahmed rasoolullah.
@@shairafzal9347 Do you believe in khatme nabuwat that one will come after Prophet Muhammad SAW and he(SAW) is the last messenger of Allah.They believe that Mirza ghulam is their Prophet after Prophet Muhammad SAW then how can you say that they are Muslims because they believe in Prophet Muhammad they are not Muslims because they are against khatme nabuwat.don't mislead someone by having little knowledge they are considered as non Muslims in every Muslim country.
Ahmadis aren't Muslims in the same way Catholics are not Christians according to Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. Every sect will _takfir_ the other sect. But by you making it a point to comment here on how Ahmadis are not Muslims, you only turn people off Islam as fostering a petty mindedness that is obsessed with primitive tribal thinking instead of more pressing concerns for humanity. Well done. 👏🏾
It’s shameful group of people claimed to be Muslim inspite of fact that they their leadership is extra corrupt in all respects including knowledge , believes , finance and sex etc
But this corruption factor has been hidden from the world which is being shown by ex ahamdia now a days .
Lies, lies and more lies, that’s what you are preaching.
@@DrQFormula
Even name of Ahmadia is illogical . There leader was Ghulam Ahmad. ( not Ahmad) so they must be called Ghulami or Ghulamane Ahmad( not Ahmadi )
@@sadaat.302🤦
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Ahmadiyya isn't Islam, they aren't Muslim.
Ahmadiyya is true islam ,they are Muslim
Ahmadis aren't Muslims in the same way Catholics are not Christians according to Jehovah's Witnesses, etc. Every sect will *takfir* the other sect. But by you making it a point to comment here on how Ahmadis are not Muslims, you only turn people off Islam as fostering a petty mindedness that is obsessed with primitive tribal thinking instead of more pressing concerns for humanity. Well done. 👏🏾
@@ReasononFaith Sect ? no it's not the same. Islam's most important rule is that God is one and Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) is the last Prophet. Ahmadi's believe that a guy name Mizra Ahmed born in Indian Punjab's city Qadyan is the another prophet and the Messiah(Jesus), Imam Mehdi and claims to be the Marry(mother of Jesus). These claims are of one person who is believed to be Marry and he(Marry) gave birth to himself(Jesus) and these claims were made in early 1900s. No man this is no where near to the definition of Islam. Will you accept that Vladimir Putin is another Prophet after Jesus(PBUH) and Jesus himself and Marry. Will you call them Christians ? lol.
Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) said “Whoever recited the kalima is a Muslim. Kalima is “la ilaha illallah Muhammad ur rasool Allah” translation “There is no God but Allah, Muhammad is His messenger “ “. There is NO Arabic word in the kalima that translates ’last’. Most Sunni Muslims have started to translate the kalima incorrectly by adding the word LAST to it.
All Ahmadi Muslims recite kalima. Thus they are Muslims according to the Holy Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
you follow a fake profhet,go away dare
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I like the way you speak I'm from India can i have your number I'm an Anglo Indian
Ahmedis throw you out of cult if you don't follow their "purdah" hijab rules. Watch their khalifas video about it.
That influential madman really pushed.
It’s really a game or ploy of seduction inherently infused with corruption to get people to buy the organisation's fake books (ruhani khazain, Tufa-i-Gooladia, kashti-nooh, braheen e ahmadiyya, najam us saqib, tadhkira, etc...). The game is money, power and control and unfortunately like all the very young people who weren't mentally mature enough to be aware or realise this. This organisation is such a fraud, they place Islamic veil on the front of the most its prominent buildings, when this corrupt has absolutely nothing to do with Islam. And that madman Masroor Ahmad will do anything to keep his agenda going. Average mirzais don’t even know what that madman is doing behind their backs. I'm grateful every day to be free of the destructive and damaging dogma that held me captive since childhood.
I began to think how my friend was setting up their lives to have such a limited, blinded view. Thankfully, they are now grown and see the ahmadiyya organisation for what it is and want nothing to do with Islam. Driving a wedge in "believing" families by splitting congregations and enhancing loyalty to the organisation is another of the cult's factors.
The fraudulent madman running this cult sees persecution as a good thing; the more the merrier. It's quite a sick way if thinking. No, suffering is not good. Plus, they like to claim they're the "most persecuted" cult. There are plenty of other denominations in hot water. If they want to go by that logic, then the other religions must be the "truth." They even criticise other religions. The organisation loves to play the victim, something they claim Ex mirzais like to do. Nope. When there's injustice a normal person is supposed to go against it.
Next time someone wants to tell you about their cult, agree with them in every detail, but then fabricate some minor disagreement (over, I dunno, how to pronounce whatsoever), act all shocked, but then look them straight in the eyes and say "I'm sorry you were tricked into worshipping Satan." Let's see how they react!
That madman is a super hustler. This mirzai organised cult is a business while "love for all hate for none" is nothing but a marketing slogan. People are deceived on ALL fronts by that madman. Mythology on All levels! THE ONLY TECHNOLOGY COMING OUT OF AHMADIYYA IS TRICKNOLOGY.
The whole Khalifa system of the Mirzais set up by an influential madman
They really covered all the bases in this one:
1. Be an obedient puppet/zombie/robot; independent, critical thinkers are evil
2. We most definitely [redacted] hide files that exposes the true colours of your cult.
3. We force people to squeeze money and pretend it's "chanda" when it happens to children, but if that makes you, Mirzai puppets, look bad then it was someone else's fault.
4. If you're a girl in a violent relationship, sit down, shut up, and take it or else be ostracised, shunned, disfellowshipped and ex-communicated!
- That madman Mirza Masroor Ahmad was worried about how their Khalifa system would end after Mirza Tahir
- Ahmadiyya leadership lied about their convert numbers and population
- Financial frauds of the cult
- Mirza Mahmud Ahmad (2nd madman) child marriages
- The madman gives false hope to desperate Mirzais
- 2nd influential madman called all real Muslims as "Kafir" and "out of Islam" like Ad Nauseum.
- Their cultish behaviour of boycotting ex Mirzais
- The “dreams” relating to that influential madman named Mirza Masroor was not some divine election
- They have a habit of calling themselves the "fastest growing community" when it's just 66 out of 195 countries.
- Mirzai pawns get kicked for not paying jigga tax or "chanda"/marrying out of of their cult.
- Ahmadis indirectly extorts chanda money quite a protection racketeering.
- Mirzais are forced to believe in homeopathy medicine
- the so called mubahala of the 4th madman Mirza Tahir and zia ul haq
- That madman tells Mirzais that eating pork makes you ‘gay’. It was all forbidden for consumption to start with.
- That cult reeks the double standards of the way Mirzais treat girls and children
- It reeks double standards and VIP culture in the cult
- There are major distinctions between 2 madmen's viewpoints
- Pakistan’s creation goes against "prophecy" of Ghulam Ahmad according to KM2
- That madman Ghulam Ahmad called claimants to prophethood as “worthy of death”
- Majority of Mirzai youth are distancing themselves from that carbon copy of Jehovah's Witness.
- Mirzais are publicly disfellowshipped, expelled and humiliated after being kicked out of the cult.
- That madman Mirza Masroor Ahmad has the right to kick out girls who don’t wear the hijab. She doesn't wear hijab, so what?
- That cult can also interfere with politics.
Shameless! Just shameless! People are already suffering so much and you along with the hoaxers are squeezing them like a tube of toothpaste! Outrageous.
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