Train Simulator 2016 - Route Learning: Norwich to Great Yarmouth via Reedham (Class 47)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ค. 2016
- In this next route learning video we take a DRS Class 47 on a non-stop run from Norwich to Great Yarmouth via Reedham, dragging a dead Class 90 set on the rear. There is a small amount of shunting to be done at each end of the scenario.
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The 20/60 restriction over a bridge applies to loco-hauled trains because of their weight. Essentially its to do with the amount of weight placed on each axle, this known as the axle loading. For a Class 156 Super Sprinter the axle loading is about 9 tons per axle, for a Class 47 it can be as high as 21 tons per axle so you can see there's a huge difference. To get the axle loading for a train you simply take the total weight of the train and divide it by the number of axles: Class 156 (38 tons/4 axles (heaviest of the two vehicles in a set) = 9.5 ton axle load. Class 47: 124 tons/6 axles = 20.67 ton axle loading. Hope this explains it! 😊
Thank you PTG - another excellent video. Hope you enjoyed your holiday and have returned refreshed.
Thanks, Chris. Glad you enjoyed this video. I had a great holiday, America was awesome! I'm feeling very refreshed now after that :)
Great Episode you have a lot of experience of the game. Thanks once again for trying to help me with removing the intercity logo I look forward to that!
Stunning graphics on this route!
Some people complain about your commentary but it’s truly informative especially without the HUD. Funny thing is I’ve never actually considered the commentary to be the engineer speaking out loud. More of his thoughts! Haha. Really helps with immersion
Great video, I think you made a good choice going for a loco-hauled train over a unit as I totally agree that driving nothing but units gets boring after a while. Just a couple of extra things about the Class 47s: some have a greater fuel capacity (mainly the 47/4, /7 and /8s being fitted with twin-fuel tanks to improve their range. Also some Class 47s are allowed to do 100mph. The Class 47/7s were specially converted from 47/4s in 1979 to operate Glasgow to Edinburgh push-pull services replacing Class 27s topping and tailing air disc-brake fitted Mk2z sets. For the E-G shuttle they were fitted with TDM (Time Division Muliplex) push-pull equipment and maintained to run at 100mph rather than 95mph. Extra locos were converted in the mid-80s when push-pull working was extended to Glasgow to Aberdeen services in 1985 and Edinburgh to Aberdeen services in 1986. The E-G sets utilised rakes of 5-6 Mk3a coaches and a Mk2f DBSO (Converted from a Mk2f BSO, fitted with a driving can in the guard's van but retaining the gangway connection). Aberdeen services used some Mk3 sets but also used Mk2 sets comprised mainly of air-con Mk2s but with some non-air con Mk2s mixed into some sets. Class 158s replaced all Class 47 push-pull workings in 1990. Also when driving older diesel-electrics such as the Class 37s, 47s and 55s when accelerating the power handle needs to be pulled back occasionally. The traction motors undergo a process known as field diverting, this makes essentially allows the current to rise again every so often allowing greater acceleration rather than the level of current generated by the motors slowly but continually falling. It is good practice to note the speeds at which the ammeter suddenly jumps to a higher reading and to anticipate this by reducing the throttle considerably before this occurs to prevent the train lurching and reduce the likelihood of wheelslip in adverse conditions. Then allow the current in the motors to increase slightly as the motors go through a field divert stage and then once they have then resume full power.
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Fantastic video! Think I may buy this pack as I own everything it needs than the Class 153 that I still need to buy.
great video! thanks very much for your efforts :)
Thanks for your comment, I really appreciate it :)
Love the video this helped me tons
great video like always peter
Also I believe the Class 47s have an eight-notch power handle. Those used on the E-G push-pull shuttles certainly did but I'm not sure about the other subclasses.
Also, to give a smoother start, leave the train brake on at it's lowest setting (or use the loco brake, eithercis fine), select a low power setting, let the amps rise. Then when they have stopped rising, release the brakes and the train will start more smoothly. On E-G shuttles drivers would commonly bring the train to a final stand using the loco brake as it allows a quicker application and release. The air brakes of the WCML Over Shap operate as in real life; they take longer to apply and release depending on the length of the train.
Great video
With the ammeter, the engine revs up into the 'yellow' region at around 22 and 40mph if you are at 2000 Amps. After that you can change the power setting safely to where ever without random jumps in power output.
Edit: The speed restriction at 15:15 is to reduce the impulse from your heavy axle load on the old bridge. Sprinters/lighter consists do not need to reduce their speed at these points due to their lighter axle loads.
Edit: at 45:51 when you're just a loco, you're meant to use your loco brake only :).
Great stuff :-)
Will you do another train guide?
when you drive that loco your ment to pull the power handle back when you approch the speed you want so say you wanna do 50mph pull the handle back at 59mph or 58mph to stop the amp meter from jumping.
Great vid. Why were you only aloud to do 50mph though when the limit is 60?
50mph is the max permitted speed due to the Class 90 in tow.
Alike when Thunderbirds (57's) are rescuing failed Pendolino's, due to the weight of the train and the engine, 50 mph is the maximum permitted speed for dragging a dead consist in this case. Most likely due to wheelspin possibility above 50mph. I guess this speed is increased when a 57 is at the front due to increase power than that of a 47.
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Should also say: I know you did reduce the power at the fiend divert points, I was just trying to illustrate why a driver needs to do so.
Hello PTGRail. I am wondering, are you a real train driver ? since you are so professional in your videos ?
He's not a train driver yet but he is very professional!
i am a train driver
What do you drive
319 from liverpool to preston wigan manchester and warrington
Personally i am planing to become one here in Denmark,
There was someone at Berney Arms and you didn't stop for him. He will be pissed. :D
haddockman30 berney arms is a request stop only. And it is in the middle of nowhere haha.
And it's perfectly fine to go well into the yellow zone when accelerating. You shouldn't exceed 3.5kA though, as this is liable to cause the traction motors to blow in real life.
Can you do the pretendlino to Norwich from London or where ever from you want to go
If I could choose just one 'improvement' to the human body, I would go for super zoom eyes so that we could do without microscopes and telescopes.
Are you planning on doing another q and a video at some point?
Hopefully my comment regarding the driving technique of the Class 47 made sense. Sometimes I feel I ramble on rather tgan explain! 😊
Great Vid!! Can You Do A High Speed Service In The Acela Express Please?!?
Thanks! I plan to in the future :)
my FOV setting doesn't work
Maybe that 20 mph at the bridge around 15 minutes has to do with the weight distribution of locomotive hauled trains?
That's exactly what it means =)
Correct.
What would be the consequences of increasing the power before the rear of the train passed the speed board?
Matthew Stevens It would show as speeding
How many 47's were converted Ito 57's?
33 Class 47's have been converted into Class 57's?
Can someone tell me why certain stations are often shortened or partly unused?
Keeps the costs down.
thanks
@PTGRail could you please do a route learning video on the freeware south west wales route from oakwood shed
Hi there. I don't usually cover freeware routes, unfortunately. But I will consider it :)
ok thanks for responding anyway, its my local route and seems like not many people know about it, the guy who has recently updated it from whitland to pyle does it for nothing and would be nice to get the route known
So do they actually run the Class 90 set from Norwich to Great Yarmouth, because that's very unusual?
It was a summer only service last year but this year it hasn't run.
Hi Ross, as far as I'm aware, this service is run in the summer months to cater for extra demand in the Great Yarmouth region, and it's run very rarely even in the summer months. Not sure if this still occurs today under AGA.
+Leo Martin last time it occurred was when Class 47s were on the Wherry Lines.
The 90s DONT go to Yarmouth at all Because they are too long they go to London Liverpool Street or Liverpool lime street the 153 the 37 and 68 go to Yarmouth not 90s
where did you get the greater Anglia reskins for the 90?
Did you find it?
Brandon Wilson no
You get it in a scenario pack from www.armstrongpowerhouse.com for the wherry lines.
Do you know which one?
@@contrapunctusmammalia3993 Not sure, but I have both. It's 1 of them.
Why would a class 90 diagram be used on the service?
I believe (although I live in the West Country!) that it is because the direct high-capacity express services used into London from Norwich sometimes have their journeys lengthened to Yarmouth via seperate locomotives due to the lack of electrification. Saves folks the bother of having to switch trains!
+Luke Tayler and the fact they have more seats than a 1/2/3 car DMU!
Hi, it would be nice for you to drive a Class 143 Pacer from Cardiff Central to Cheltenham Spa.
Unfortunately the route to Cheltenham hasn't yet been modelled in train simulator.
oh right.
The coupling into the class 90 is not realistic because you wouldn't hit the class 90 that hard and there's always men helping so you wouldn't cause accidents
BERNEY ARMS!
YES!
Can u do a Chatham mainline gillingham to London Victoria class 375 4 coaches
I will be covering that route between Sheerness and Victoria in a Class 465/466 in the near future.
Hello if possible could you please do a London midland route Birmingham new street to liverpool lime street please thank you
Where does the EAST MIDLANDS train go to??
Joe .T never Birmingham. Nottingham, Manchester or Liverpool. All via Peterborough. Most services are fast to Ely then fast to Peterborough.
They do usually stop at Thetford
Okay
Which driver version are you using?
I always keep my Nvidia drivers updated to the latest version. The problem has existed since March 2015 if I remember rightly.
PTGRail Strange I am on driver version 368.22 and I don't have this problem running on 2x SSAA.
I do use the FXAA elminitator mod with the off setting though.
PTGRail Haven't had that problem since the 365. drivers.
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since when where south West train in Norwich
That's an East Midlands Trains service to Nottingham, Manchester or Liverpool via the Breckland Line (Norwich-Wymondham-Spooner Row-Attlebrough-Eccles Road-Harling Road-Thetford-Brandon-Lakenheath-Shippea Hill (15-16 least used station in Britain!)-Ely)
why is the class 90 dead
Because its not using an overhead line to run its being dragged so they class is as dead lol 😊
i live at Norwich i saw this train at Norwich
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90s don't go to Yarmouth
This was a special summer Saturday only run which happened in real life :)
PTGRail why Did you go via reedham and not acle I'm sure if you are an express you would go the quickest way good video anyway
do over speeding
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My videos are aimed towards those who want the most realistic experience, which invariably means AP packs will be used.
Where does one find AP packs ?
@@MrJimbaloid On the Armstrong Powerhouse website. Duh.
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Why would a class 90 diagram be used on the service?
Extra Capacity compared to the 1/2/3 car DMUs!
BanditsVCops Aye, but why drag a 90+DVT with you? Just use some spare Mk 2's. They surely aren't that short on rolling stock.
It's also to provide a straight service as well, and yes they are that short of stock, thats why DRS locos are used and DRS MK2s.