Is It Worth a $500 Premium? | 2020 Gibson Les Paul Slash Collection 50s Standard Vermillion Review

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  • @nissenilsson9158
    @nissenilsson9158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +388

    The guitar costs 3000$, personally there shouldn’t be any “small flaws”

    • @nicklasek6502
      @nicklasek6502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Exactly.

    • @dragan4658
      @dragan4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Thats right, its B stock but Gibson dousnt care about their customers, I think thats obvious.

    • @doffendoffenson4917
      @doffendoffenson4917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Okay but they will still get my money as they have gotten from thousands famous guitarists around the globe. They didn't complain now did they? So who is better to listen to.. a fucking noob or a professional famous guitarist? I think its you lmao

    • @artvandelay2111
      @artvandelay2111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@doffendoffenson4917 Gibson cashing in on ths Slash thing and Slash didn't even play Gibsons .... he played Kris Derrigs.
      He didn't like Gibsons he played, so theres that .......

    • @doffendoffenson4917
      @doffendoffenson4917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@artvandelay2111 wtf are you talking about? Did I mention slash?

  • @nellayema2455
    @nellayema2455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The issue can't be the nut if you hear it when fretted. Take a look at the saddle. Also, it looks like the tail piece is too close to the body--make sure no strings are in contact with the back edge of the bridge.

    • @smokepeddler
      @smokepeddler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrap the strings around the tail stop instead of stringing them straight through the back.

    • @thegusk520
      @thegusk520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@smokepeddler He just needs to first check for clearance, if need be he can simply raise the tailpiece a bit.

    • @smokepeddler
      @smokepeddler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thegusk520 100%

  • @marcolombardomusic
    @marcolombardomusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I don’t mean to hate but I think it’s unacceptable to have nut issues, a portion of the fretboard that needs filing and a ding on a brand new 3000 dollars guitar.

    • @doffendoffenson4917
      @doffendoffenson4917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Marco Lombardo are you depressed?

    • @gastank43
      @gastank43 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@doffendoffenson4917 No, I think he just has issues with his nuts because he don't know any nut-filing sluts to clean out his slots if you know what i'm saying. Ain't nutting but a G-strang.

    • @bripolar
      @bripolar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some people are never happy. Oi

  • @sublyme2157
    @sublyme2157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Slash personally blesses each guitar with cigarette ashes, which is nice.

    • @alijankhan3330
      @alijankhan3330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol this still has me laughing a year later 🤣

    • @DoJo-HyGe
      @DoJo-HyGe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And this one has a nicer heroine- injected nitro finish too

  • @Icantdrive55
    @Icantdrive55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    $3000 and a buzz on the G! Are you kidding me?! With all the other flaws and extra drill holes, I would be sending it back. Gibson get your cases made in Canada.

  • @pawns2prizes
    @pawns2prizes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I just can't get into signature guitars. All the little issues add up and for that price it should be top notch in my opinion, i wouldn't play or pay for it. 🤘

    • @alexandershugayev
      @alexandershugayev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      considering that Les Paul is already a signature guitar, what is the point of double-signing? Also not a fan of signatures - makes me feel like a wannabe to a larger degree that I already am.

    • @alexandershugayev
      @alexandershugayev 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rikkousa hmmm... gotta have a look at that Ed Obrien. Thanks for the tip

    • @stkbkr1
      @stkbkr1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also, especially Slash

    • @JamiesonM
      @JamiesonM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The only signitures I enjoyed were dimes dean from hell and mick thompsons affordable jackson. The Mick signature surprised me bigtime for the price with both playability and being comfortable playing while sounding good. Both their necks fit my weird hands like a glove so, I call it a miracle lol

    • @visionop8
      @visionop8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alexandershugayev Double signing lol! You're right I didn't think of that. It's a little silly when you think about it.

  • @Gizerwizard
    @Gizerwizard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    For the g string buzz check that the saddle screws are seated properly. I had the same issue with my A string and that was the culprit, even with the wire.

    • @hbbishopjr
      @hbbishopjr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. My 60s Standard did the same......intonation screw in front of the saddle is probably slightly riding up and tickling the string.

  • @leighellitts1
    @leighellitts1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm UK based and I just got a 2021 'Appetite Amber' lefty from Thomann in Germany. I'd ordered November Burst and was going to return it, BUT......The AAA flamed top is amazing, the feel and playability is too, so I'm going to keep it. There were quality control issues, but apparently there always are. There was glue and lacquer overspray on the underside binding of the neck for about 2.5 inches and the same on the nut together with glue residue at the nut across the whole width of it. I contacted a different Gibson dealer from where I bought it to ask them about the QC issues and they told me that 'If you want a perfect Gibson, buy a PRS 'cos almost every Gibson has issues.' That surprised me a lot as this cost £2599 and I expected better from Gibson, but hey, I love the guitar so I'll have to put up with the niggles.

  • @billyc6678
    @billyc6678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So I received my guitars over a week ago. The November Burst, and Vermilion Burst. I went over both with a fine tooth comb (so to speak ) and I’m very happy with both of them. I immediately changed the strings on them both cos 10’s are too stiff (the G string in particular) for how I play. All said n done , I absolutely love playing them. No issues whatsoever. I guess I got lucky.

  • @sirpaul2578
    @sirpaul2578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I'm guessing there was not supposed to be a black screen from 5:16 to 5:23 so I figured I'd let ya know. Great video! Cheers

    • @tjgreenawalt436
      @tjgreenawalt436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was like hmm invasion

    • @GODLlKE
      @GODLlKE 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he edits it. He should take the c word out at the end too. TH-cam cutting down On that word use

    • @joeypruitt7750
      @joeypruitt7750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right2goleft seriously? Why can’t you talk about it??

  • @samiam5557
    @samiam5557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Damn QC is still crap on Gibsons. Buzzing G string on a brand new guitar, for shame Gibson!

    • @alexgama7567
      @alexgama7567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      A brand new 3K guitar...
      Honestly, I have a second hand 2014 Epiphone that has better QC than this one.

    • @bgilley8199
      @bgilley8199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Which likely just means it needs a proper setup.

    • @wallywanker7435
      @wallywanker7435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      All guitar makers put out turds. Stop with the one brand bashing. Also if you actually try the guitar you would pick one that don’t have any issues. I don’t understand people that bitch they got a turd , cause if you actually went in a shop and played what your buying and it had issues and you bought it anyway then your the dope. And if you buy online then be prepared to send shit back no matter the brand.

    • @marshallburd5087
      @marshallburd5087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@wallywanker7435 nope your 100% wrong!! those guitars for that kind of money should not exist period.

    • @hakancarlsson2881
      @hakancarlsson2881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@wallywanker7435But you can't take covers off in the store to check for mistakes with drilling... How many times have you bought stuff that has that on it? Ikea sells wood furniture for 1/100 of the price and it doesn't happen... New things from factory shouldn't have scratches and mistakes on them... You wouldn't accept it even on a cheap chinese phone so how is it be even remotely acceptable in guitars that's supposed to be top of the line? I will never understand that...

  • @kingofpwnage2368
    @kingofpwnage2368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Should have come with a slash themed case for the price

    • @mma1st105
      @mma1st105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Should come with slash

    • @kaitodesire
      @kaitodesire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mma1st105 in the case

    • @BennieTarrMusic
      @BennieTarrMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Plus a bottle of Jack and a pack of smokes... :-)

    • @juliancarreon5569
      @juliancarreon5569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The epiphone one does

  • @SocksworthRiffs
    @SocksworthRiffs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    I want no tooling marks on my $3000 guitar, is that too much to ask for gibson? :(

    • @antoniusk8893
      @antoniusk8893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think it’s just too much to ask period. Yes that’s a lot of money, but I don’t think any one guitar is going to be completely spotless by any means

    • @ViciousTuna2012
      @ViciousTuna2012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @nineball26 yes it could be a PRS...which would mean it would be much higher quality than a shitty Gibson

    • @doffendoffenson4917
      @doffendoffenson4917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Gen. Layabout explain to me how a prs is better?😂

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Doffen Doffenson
      “Better” is very subjective. PRS Guitars are not suited to me personally. I’m more into Fenders, but I also own a Gibson and will eventually buy another Gibson. However, as far as larger guitar companies are concerned it is undeniable that PRS has a very high standard in quality control across their entire product line.

    • @sellsn01
      @sellsn01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gibson says yes lol. Most I have seen are not that bad. The new SG I just got on the other hand though........ Yeah I’ll be cleaning that up a bit!

  • @parkerbrown2928
    @parkerbrown2928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I think a blue burst like that would look really good

  • @jamesbookert
    @jamesbookert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    It was throwing my day off that you hadn't uploaded. thank you trogly

  • @CA10Z
    @CA10Z 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Have you ever found a Gibson LP with no issues.....I haven't
    The bad G string would be enough for me to send it back.....Even though I know how to fix it.
    Your lessons are beginning to show....getting much better.

    • @sonsauvage
      @sonsauvage 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the aesthetics of LP's but every single Gibson Les Paul I've owned has had some issues that kept it from being reliable as an instrument

    • @sonsauvage
      @sonsauvage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @zMarkv bro I knew someone would come at me with this. For what I do, and I how I like my instruments to play, the Les Paul out of the box is not stable enough as a platform. It can be made to be, and some models are. Also people use guitars with inherent issues all the time just because that's what they dig. I love Les Paul's, I'm just not going to own another Gibson lp unless it's a less plus

    • @sonsauvage
      @sonsauvage 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @zMarkv haha, we're actually more on the same page than I thought but I'll say this: I've never had to do anything to a Parker, Paul Reed Smith core or s2, suhr, carvin, or Charvel Japan aside from truss rod and saddle adjustment. I am a bit biased to strats and strat derivatives. Lol

    • @helio1055
      @helio1055 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So how do you fix it?

    • @sonsauvage
      @sonsauvage 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @zMarkv yeah fretwork on the SE's is not bad but definitely waaaaay inferior to what you see on s2 and core. and for some reason they just cannot figure out how to cut the nut slots correctly. every single SE i've come across has had the issue. easy fix but still, like, come on. Haven't played any since they started putting Paul's signature on the headstock though, maybe they finally got it down

  • @krzekil
    @krzekil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    For $2999. It shouldn't have any issue's. Gibson is still dropping the ball.

  • @whiteguywolves918
    @whiteguywolves918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    An excellent review which clearly demonstrates. That there are still problems with quality control. Having fret buzz on the G string is unacceptable. I would be disappointed if I had the problem. On a medium priced guitar. Never mind a premium priced signature model.

  • @dragan4658
    @dragan4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    At the price these are being sold they should be labelled as B stock even though the extra drilled hole is hidden. Shame on Gibson! Love the colour!

    • @dragan4658
      @dragan4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Scott Duffy and you spelled douche wrong Einstein, its not doushe! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @dragan4658
      @dragan4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Brad Childress check out the Wolf brand and AIO brands, they seem to be decent guitars and they have a stunning red colours, as well as green colours too. Its www.allinoneguitars.com

    • @dragan4658
      @dragan4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Brad Childress did you see the green ones? If you use the link from someones channel it doesnt always show all the models..allinone has a few, I just looked at them on the site today.

    • @dragan4658
      @dragan4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Brad Childress they are there , aio also on the same site, its an upgraded model from the wolf. No I dont, Ive got a Peavey and a Pacifica. I think Schecter is next, or Ibanez , havent decided. I Want flame top.

    • @dragan4658
      @dragan4658 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Scott Duffy by the way Einstein, in Canada its spelled colour, American is color. You've just been educated, and you're welcome.

  • @Ryedor
    @Ryedor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Cheap Chinese case for a $3000 guitar. WTF !!!! I call BS ! .... but the review was good. :) thx

    • @xianxianterry9396
      @xianxianterry9396 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make a good case is so easy in China Ok?

    • @fanywg
      @fanywg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      U deserve a India case.

    • @nightraven5760
      @nightraven5760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its the exact same case with the same construction and specs, its just much easier and more economical to outsource it. Means they can spend more resources making the actual guitars in the USA

    • @xianxianterry9396
      @xianxianterry9396 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Alter Ego pity for you catchin virus

    • @BaconatorJames
      @BaconatorJames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Case that came my 2019 ES-339 was made in Canada. TBH, they're nowhere close to as good as the deluxe Fender cases.

  • @andrewfrancis3591
    @andrewfrancis3591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Pretty wall hanger, at that money you could get 6 Korean guitars with SD pickups which play perfect out of the box.

    • @gunsofsteele
      @gunsofsteele 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I picked up a Michael Kelly CC50BB used from Sam Ash. Really nice case, guitar looks amazing and....?.......... It plays like butter with a very wide tonal range. It is amazing! The only issue was a loose output jack nut. Neck...Perfect!!! Gibson, get your QC in line already, you've had enough practice.

  • @bengordon7635
    @bengordon7635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have owned 100s of Gibson les pauls from the 50s too now I have too say the 2020 Les paul is one of the best modern Gibson les pauls made too date , Gibson really up there game the neck feel is second too none , nut work is tight , simple electronics and great finishes , solid bodies and sound great ... My 2020 60's Ice tea is absolutely beautiful and weighs 9.2 lbs solid body my go too guitar now .

  • @Gladiator0719
    @Gladiator0719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    For $3k I want Slash's top hat, Slash picks and two groupies... Buying a "signature" anything is because you want to emulate your idol, sound like your idol and feel like your idol.

    • @zenvibes4691
      @zenvibes4691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol. Not necessarily but you know what they say about opinions

  • @sellsn01
    @sellsn01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw the felt washer under the screw on the 2019 I just got in. It was made on September 19th 2019 according to the numbers. I looked because of your videos. It’s an Unburst standard 60’s. It also came with what must be one of the last Canadian made cases, I was happy about that.

  • @yestoES355
    @yestoES355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    not liking the china case. it's a big bummer coming from GIBSON. better getting a 2019 model with the way better TKL cases.

  • @digbyranford6657
    @digbyranford6657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There should be no issues on a guitar this price, and 2 holes where they messed up the drilling for the pickup surrounds, that is ridiculous. And I’m a less paul fan 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @doffendoffenson4917
      @doffendoffenson4917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ikr? Those holes looks ugly... messes up the sound too..... what are they thinking???

    • @MP422ownz
      @MP422ownz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doffendoffenson4917 Yea for real, that guitar belongs in the trash.... its useless because of the little holes nobody ever sees.

  • @robertobrien2903
    @robertobrien2903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The old latches are real brass, the new ones are brass color plated metal of some sort...so sad to see.

    • @nellayema2455
      @nellayema2455 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, a Chinese made case for a USA Gibson is a buzz kill. The Canadian cases are made really well. Not sure about the South American made ones, though.

    • @ch1nmus1c16
      @ch1nmus1c16 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are the cases for all models made in China?

  • @MarshallGTV
    @MarshallGTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    If it were $1000 I would forgive the little things wrong, but not 3k

    • @che2335
      @che2335 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldnt buy it at all buzzing the G even if it was the $499 Epi Standard. $499 or $3000 the expectation is 100% QC I didnt set the price they did.

    • @MP422ownz
      @MP422ownz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tom-gv7hc The chinese case is actually better quality

    • @adammaher6962
      @adammaher6962 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MP422ownz what you just said makes no sense whatsoever

    • @MP422ownz
      @MP422ownz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adammaher6962 why is that ? I have 2 Canadian and 2 Chinese cases. The Chinese ones are better quality.

    • @MP422ownz
      @MP422ownz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adammaher6962 th-cam.com/video/hIzJoWScUAE/w-d-xo.html

  • @danielmankiller5098
    @danielmankiller5098 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched the video again. I noticed the bridge is a Non Wire ABR-1 bridge. Turn the saddle of the G string around, so that it is more centered in the middle of the bridge. The buzz is coming from the saddle intonation adjustment screw not having enough pressure to hold it in its slot. Since it is a Non Wire bridge, the tension from the string holds the saddle down. Because the G string saddle is so far back, there is not enough pressure holding it down.
    Try to remember where the G string saddle has the string seated. Try to put the string slot back in the same location it was, so you don't alter the intonation. Just spin the saddle around, and adjust it back to where it was.

  • @forresthouser5807
    @forresthouser5807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trogly...time stamp 9:49... As an expert in wood finishing, I can tell you this "Weird" spot is a contaminate on/in the wood that caused it to not except the stain evenly with the rest of the wood. Another example of the slipping quality control at the Custom Shops.

  • @russ4454
    @russ4454 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forgot your videos are becoming very impressive good jam man
    That riff section was very well recorded.

  • @Gibson1976uk
    @Gibson1976uk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If I paid for one of those, I would expect it to be flawless

  • @jamesflack8624
    @jamesflack8624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At just under $3,000.00 map. It's not nit picky.
    Lowering your expectations, and saying "oh well" justifies Gibson and their sloppy QC...
    I'm tired of settling for sub standard Made in America quality.
    Gibson, J. C., Mark Agnesi, and the rest are "Authentic" for sure.
    "Authentic" con men, separating the mesmerized sheep from their money.
    I look forward to all the hate, and death threats, for having my own opin.
    Thanks for all the videos, and content you provide...

  • @Mollohandro
    @Mollohandro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For a player needing just one nut slot raised; one can twist up the fiber of a q-tip, slide it in the nut slot, put some super glue on it, and use a utility knife to recut the nut with more clearance once the super glue dries.

  • @TroyPosey
    @TroyPosey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Introducing the all-new Gibson Les Paul Slash Edition... Now sipping in the brand new CoronaCase. 👍🏻

  • @victormats949
    @victormats949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ordered a November Burst and can't wait for it.

  • @Jason-wo5rr
    @Jason-wo5rr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love it! The new slash guitar makes you sound just like slash...........and air Jordan’s make you jump as high as Mike......😐

  • @jjones8817
    @jjones8817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Canada is part of North America. Chinese case I'm not a fan. As always great video!! 🤘

    • @cachemole
      @cachemole 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Made proudly by North Americans. I can't buy a Gibson that comes with a Chinese case. Might as well buy Epiphones now.

  • @MsZappas
    @MsZappas 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great demo trogly! your best yet. good playing, and I can totally hear the slash tone from what you played.

  • @stkbkr1
    @stkbkr1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your an awesome dude Austin, I dig all your vids. BTW your playing has really improved

  • @oliverdbhowells
    @oliverdbhowells 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The latches look excactly the same as on my Gator case.
    After a few years they start falling apart and unlatching randomly. I honestly don’t think that is good enough for a $3000 guitar that will need protection for decades.

  • @stuartmiller7419
    @stuartmiller7419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Say what you like about Gibson, but they never fail to disappoint when it comes to quality assurance, no matter how much you're paying. I have two Gibbos - both great but both flawed, and both too expensive for what they are. I love them both - but that's it for me. The value for money and quality just ain't there when compared to their rivals - and they have so many rivals now. Sad that a dealer sees such lack of attention for the price as par for the course.

    • @DustinAlford
      @DustinAlford 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They seem to be banking more on their name then their quality these days.

  • @dongiovanni-m3i
    @dongiovanni-m3i 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roughly 20 yrs ago I bought a flood damaged wine std husk. Using spare parts I put it together. It was ghastly but great. Eventually had it refinished to match the wine burst customs I'd seen in Gibson posters. Turned out amazing, & prob still in the tri-state area Trogly. When I start to wish I still had every guitar I've let go, I look at Trogly's content (check out his old content if you haven't already). Austin you've had some beauties brother. I have no doubt you'll prob bag an Aldo Nova, McCarty LPs, and even that damn North Star (assuming George didn't make it up.)

  • @gavinhell4597
    @gavinhell4597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    $3000, not the quality you’d expect for that money

  • @peterdebad1
    @peterdebad1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review. Not a Slash guy myself but the guitar looks and plays nice. Have a great rest of the week.

  • @jerryfraker377
    @jerryfraker377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Check the nut on top of the machine head and make sure its snug tight. Ive got some new gibson were the nut is loose on the machine head and causes a string vibration. Hopefully case doesnt have the virus. Lol.

  • @FluffH1
    @FluffH1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Given all those issues with QC I reckon that it would be worth the $500 but not $3,000. If I received that guitar for the asking price I would reject it immediately.

  • @jonno7249
    @jonno7249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Is it worth 500 bucks more? Of course it is! Because uhhh... ummmm... it has skully on the front of the headstock! Oh wait, they dont do that anymore? Its on the back now? Thats not that cool. Ok well it has the special pickups thats cool right arent they worth 500 dollars? No theyre not? Ok i give up, these guitars not worth 500 dollars more than the standards!

    • @Marc_Davila
      @Marc_Davila 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I agree I'd only buy a slash signature if the skull is in front and it's an AFD or special November burst finish I mean it's a waste of 500 just for a finish u can easily slap better Duncan's in it

    • @Aarlog
      @Aarlog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Compared to the Standards these are overpriced. However, these are a steal compared to what some of the older versions of the Slash sigs go for on Reverb. You can find some around the $2500 mark but most are $3500+ now and there's no guarantee the one you want will be available at any given time.

    • @jonno7249
      @jonno7249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Aarlog I guess it might be worth buying just to sell it later for more. Since it is a slash special I can't see the price going down in the future only up.

    • @DarkDare47
      @DarkDare47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Slash needs that alcohol money.

  • @ground4922
    @ground4922 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the montage of the guitar as you played!!

  • @rufusprogrammer945
    @rufusprogrammer945 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vermillion burst looks awesome!

  • @OscarBenben
    @OscarBenben 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent analysis thank’s mate !

  • @srh361
    @srh361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Fender cases are made in China now also and that's really bothering me!

    • @kevdean9967
      @kevdean9967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So is that computer you posted your comment on, your tv, your fridge, your shoes, etc!

    • @srh361
      @srh361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kevdean9967 That's one of the stupidest, most generic comments that most people say that don't give a damn about anything or aren't educated on the issue. You see I understand about the TV, the phone etc etc but when I buy American made guitars priced at over fifteen hundred dollars that I've saved up for,I don't want the case made in China cause that's what I'm trying to avoid buying American made. I understand that in every day life it's impossible to get away from made in China products but in my hobby that I spend tens of thousands of dollars on I avoid that crap and honestly fender/Gibson cases being made in China is bullshit.

    • @xianxianterry9396
      @xianxianterry9396 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ray Why don’t you work on making money and stop talking about the price?is it expensive for You? In my opinion it is so easy to make good case for China.And if it is high price for you,then don’t buy it.Poor poor guy

  • @ruggie.74
    @ruggie.74 ปีที่แล้ว

    The SLashbucker pickups really shouldn't be understated in any reviews! It is a HOT Alnico pickup that doesn't sound like an Alnico-II on the market, including the Slash Signatures. I've played 'em all, and the ones in these Slash Standards sound the best.

  • @RobinKCharlie
    @RobinKCharlie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Culd be that the nut isnt cut at an angle front to back at the tuner side. It shuld be a bit lower. It culd be the spring inside/under of the ABR saddle.

  • @alexfraley
    @alexfraley 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    LPSS00 and VM is the internal numbers used to identify model and color.

  • @DDP73
    @DDP73 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    to check nut hight, fret the 2nd, and make sure there is a slight gap between 1st fret and string

  • @tone1798
    @tone1798 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great informative channel! Though SLASH is definitely in my top 10 fav guitarist, I just can’t get around to buying a signature series guitar. The inspiration is in the mind and soul of the machine operator! With so many choices and music tools at hand just be you!!!!!

  • @roberthadam548
    @roberthadam548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to see you demo and review the Fender Eric Johnson Strats. I recently bought one and find it incredibly versatile and well-made .🤟✌️

  • @bigfrosty1993
    @bigfrosty1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank u for information about two piece back on slash les paul. I got slash appetite burst today and I thought my guitar was crack in back, straight line going from top to bottom but it's two piece back to make 1 piece which in my opinion is really stupid just make it 1 whole piece back not 2 piece back but omg the guitar is really amazing to play feels comfortable only thing I really don't like about slash les paul his pickups needs to be more crunchy like brown sound evh and Angus young sounds in my opinion. if have marshall 1987x reissue head u better have Universal ox to lower loudness or kickass fender overdrive amplifier or marshall jcm 2203. really get tone with pedal too and see how really amazing guitar really is playing guitar unplugged lovely sound

  • @maxmonaco
    @maxmonaco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review, thank you 🙏🏻 good luck

  • @solardisk3
    @solardisk3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your slider shots are looking great!

  • @bryanmchugh1307
    @bryanmchugh1307 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    those PUPS sound AMAZING. To bad about what seems to be a bad G string nut cut. At least it does not come through sounding off when it is plugged in? The red vermillion looks MUCH better here than in even Gibson's own pics. I would absolutely rock it.

  • @jaxonvictoria4345
    @jaxonvictoria4345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My Schecter which costs a whole third of this guitar, was manufactured AND QC’d better. Shame. All the good Gibsons have indeed been made in the yesteryears.

  • @lenduckworth99
    @lenduckworth99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was done with Gibson a while ago. Just find a cheap LP copy you like the neck profile of and mod it up, it will be a fraction of three grand.

  • @seanhershey3390
    @seanhershey3390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm still mad about the Slash seller & the Luthier .GRRRRRR..

  • @hectorbourne
    @hectorbourne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:16 What Happend ? the audio Trogly?

    • @Trog
      @Trog  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      a clip got disabled. I essentially just went on about the puke green colored sharpie

    • @hectorbourne
      @hectorbourne 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Trog Anyway I love ur Videos Trogly !!!

  • @Doug5524
    @Doug5524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I personally would send it back but that's just me and I would tell them to keep it, double screw holes the ruff plastic plate and there is no way I would put the scratchplate on this guitar, damage on this is not on, you would not expect this on a car, A Gibson is around 38 inches long that is not that much to look over in the factory, Gibson has a long way to go and I would sooner have my case made in Canada than China, but a Great video very enjoyable

  • @billyc6678
    @billyc6678 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do agree about the color of the vermilion Burst. I thought it was black also. But it is a darker red, it’s growing on me.

  • @daw162
    @daw162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here's what the slash standard strikes me as. A budget guitar with probably a $500 license payment or something to slash.
    Budget is relative, but it's not slash's guitar. The custom guitar has duncan alnico II pro pickups in it (which I don't like, but slash does). Gibson got stingy and decided that they would make their own imitations for slash's standard offering (which is more like a franklin mint replica at this point because it's becoming nothing like what slash uses).
    How do you offer a guitar for $3000, claim that your own pickups should retail for $175 each (maybe more) and then turn around and tell people that you don't want to put a set of duncan pickups that retail as a PAIR for what you try to retail one of your own pickups for - anyway, how do you take those facts together and tell people "hey bro, you have to go up to the custom level to actually get one with the pair of pickups that retail for half of what we try to retail ours for. At 3 grand retail, we can't put duncan pickups in a guitar when they're in $800 korean guitar. It's just unaffordable".
    None of that makes sense, except to say, it doesn't appear you're getting what you're paying for when you buy a gibson.
    Also, why worry about selling chinese made cases now? Parts of the pickups used in the custom shop guitars are from china, so why worry. They have a lot of debt to pay - we're being farmed along the way (I've owned 15 gibsons, and still have two, lest I be harpooned as being one of those folks who plays cheap guitars and doesn't ever buy gibsons).
    if you're going to spend 3 grand and you want a quality guitar, what do you do? buy a used collings.
    At least it sounds like the tailpiece is aluminum, but that's not too much of a boast, either - it's on pretty much every tokai that costs more than $1000.

    • @MP422ownz
      @MP422ownz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gibson slash buckers are worth more then the Duncans..... also gibson makes a better pickup then seymour duncan.

  • @HelpFrankSlipd
    @HelpFrankSlipd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also noticed the handle location is different. The old cases seem to use the handle's screws to secure the interior compartment, but the Chinese model uses separate screws. If they are making them cheaper, not sure why they would use more hardware.

  • @mhdz10
    @mhdz10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The buzz on the G string might be caused by the string touching on the bridge in a weird way, or the saddle channel is wrongly cut, take a look at it.

  • @Rogeramirez
    @Rogeramirez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a buzz sound once after reinstalling pickups. It has nothing to do with the neck but with the springs that keep the pickup tight. They can resonate if the spring is touching something like the bolt or a plastic.

  • @nathansnelgrove
    @nathansnelgrove 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just picked up a new model today. Only one minor cosmetic issue around the 15th fret where it looks like they overdid some of the binding around a fret, but that's it.
    Only thing I thought worth noting here otherwise is that my case was made in Canada. Maybe that's because I'm Canadian? Who knows. But Canadian cases still exist!

  • @Wargasm644
    @Wargasm644 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the additional drill holes in the toggle cavity is for special medallions on certain models.

  • @tom_buggy
    @tom_buggy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the g string problem is the wire on the bridge get a pen and bend it back or takeit off

  • @monstrok
    @monstrok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the coverage of this model. It is interesting to see how a signature model evolves over time.

  • @roberthenry6910
    @roberthenry6910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    ive always thought it was incredibly funny that the AFD les paul wasn't even a gibson at all, and yet here gibson is

    • @PortalMaster2112
      @PortalMaster2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Play authentic 😉

    • @Hipsters_N_Hippies
      @Hipsters_N_Hippies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gibson has been hard at work for many years now to exactly replicate the sound that was made from a cheap replica guitar that was trying to replicate a Gibson...
      🤔 So if someone would have given them that guitar before the band recorded with it. Gibson would have said that it wasn’t made from the same premium materials. Blah blah blah. Also something about their quality of pickups. Blah blah. (which B.T.W. are late 70’s early early 80’s alnico 2 Pro Seymour Duncan’s)
      and of course that the electronics being used were inferior to their current products on sale. And of course that it didn’t sound as good as one of their own true blue LesPauls. 😂
      But then now today we pay more for that inferior guitar sound....so....yeah.
      It just further proves that actually nothing is worth anything significant until everyone wants it. Then it becomes “valuable.”

    • @OrvilleRickenbacker
      @OrvilleRickenbacker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is an AFD Les Paul?

    • @andrebenoit404
      @andrebenoit404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@OrvilleRickenbacker appetite for destruction les paul. It was a counterfeit gibson les paul made by a luthier used during the guns and roses appetite for destruction album.

    • @jubei7259
      @jubei7259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@OrvilleRickenbacker it was made by luthier Kris Derrig, who was an expert in replicating '59 LP's. I'd say it was most definitely not a 'cheap knock off' & was probably better made than anything Gibson had made in 30 yrs at the time.

  • @marcoslnobrega
    @marcoslnobrega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would the one piece back and the AAA top justify the $500?

  • @andrebenoit404
    @andrebenoit404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are a highlight to my day! If I had to guess that g string issue is the intonation wire vibrating. It probably sounds normal if you hold a finger against its screw while picking it. My les paul standard has a loose wire often if the screws arent rotated just right.

  • @jamescurnick1637
    @jamescurnick1637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was really gonna buy one of these but for some reason I have changed my mind after this close look...thanks for the great video but im out on this one....think I will go trad with like a tobac burst or something 👍
    I think was the buzz that booted the idea of owning one out of my head....just annoying to the max to get that kind of issue out of the box.

  • @bamber119
    @bamber119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The felt washer is also under my 50's standard pickguard as well so Gibson obviously listened. But that G string issue shouldn't happen on a guitar that asks for a high premium in my mind.

  • @thehound2161
    @thehound2161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would crap myself a little if i saw these "MINOR FLAWS" I got to the screw holes and the fret nib, then they can't cut a nut...and wondered if a human had even inspected this thing. I can't risk paying twice as much as i have for any of my dozen guitars, and getting this thing. I can't hear any more excuses. Not looking at the mistakes doesn't make them go away. I have ordered 6 guitars sight unseen and all 6 were under $350. I had zero "small issues", or "mistakes". 0! How can the Grand Daddy of all that is guitar expect us to just say thank you may i have another sir! That is a car for my kid! Keep your candy and give me quality.
    Yes that was a bit dramatic, but....Damn. I still love Trogly and admire his work and persona.

  • @richardcramp2850
    @richardcramp2850 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    sorry not trolling, watch the show all the time . thanks for another great video Austin.

  • @drivers1959
    @drivers1959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for your review..its a shame that Gibson's quality control is lacking to say the least especially for the $$$ you pay for a Gibson Les Paul guitar

  • @jams3maddij
    @jams3maddij 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Screw placement might be because it's a signature. Where his screws are. Bodies mass produce albeit different paint and specs. Just a program fit to spec. Throwing it out there. Keep 'em coming. Nice work.

  • @megatrends
    @megatrends 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you check the string clearance at the first fret with a feeler gauge? If not you may wish to consider adding that feature to your videos ... I bought a 2017 Gibson Les Paul Custom Shop Black Beauty which had 2 thousandths of an inch off too low that caused slight buzzing at the first fret noticeable when hitting the strings harder as an open string.
    Gibson factory spec nut clearance tolerances are easily searchable online and easily measured.

  • @bobby9727
    @bobby9727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Trogly,have you ever review a LP with the Bangal burst? I am really liking the new Gibson Custom access in the Bangal burst WOW looks incredible and what is your opinion of the 498T and 480R pickups.Thank you.

  • @alidan
    @alidan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:47 do you have any idea why that fret looks like its pulling up the wood? if this was an issue Im sure you would have caught it, but it looks like something is wrong with it.

  • @jonseyjones321
    @jonseyjones321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing some effort really put into the editing and the camera work with some B-roll. The key was really clean, with no green colour cast either.

  • @GJ-yr5jo
    @GJ-yr5jo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This guitar should be called "The Slash Paul"

  • @risahu1
    @risahu1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This fret buzzing is totaly unacceptable. When you try a Gibson at the store, take your time. Bring a fret rocker and check all frets. Make sure that the nut is at the right height and that there is no fret buzing. Check how straight the neck is. Try the guitar with clean sound. Fret buzing can be masked with a lot of distortion. If the fret buzing is due to the fact that the bridge is so low that the strings are almost touching the frets, then raise the bridge just a little. If problem persits, tell the seller to send the guitar back to Gibson. But it's after that, that scares me,,,is Gibson realy gonna do sometning with the guitar or are they simply gonna ship it to a different store ???

  • @danharris2253
    @danharris2253 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You ever thought about doing the same type of shows with vintage Pedals? You do a phenomenal job on guitars and seeing some vintage pedals in this layout would be awesome

    • @DustinAlford
      @DustinAlford 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are few things in life sexier then vintage guitar pedals lol.

    • @danharris2253
      @danharris2253 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dustin Alford I do love me some old hand-wired electronics. Stuff is ridiculously expensive compared to reissue or remakes. Just means more when you know a guy took some serious soldering iron burns hand assembling that original Dallas Arbiter Fuzz Face or Shin-ei Wah

    • @DustinAlford
      @DustinAlford 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danharris2253 Ya, it seems like more tlc went into a lot of the older pedals and amps, probably because most of them were wired by people who had genuine passion for the electronics they made. It's harder for that love to translate when you look at a board wired by a computer.

  • @zambination11
    @zambination11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:45 Tsese washers might possibly damage the nitrocellulose lacquer if in contact for a long period of time

  • @KOSTAS84
    @KOSTAS84 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Austin! I think that the extra holes on the cavity of the switch are because even though they pre drill them, when the assembly guy starts putting the guitar together just puts the plastic cover on and screws it without checking to allign the holes from the cover to the pre drilled holes. I'm guessing that because half the holes are painted and finished an the others are not.

  • @nicklasek6502
    @nicklasek6502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I've always been a fan of Gibson, but i'm starting to wonder if these guitars also are made in China. Botched drilling ,crappy pickguard, plastic case..Wtf.

    • @chrisgrabowski2678
      @chrisgrabowski2678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      China makes them better than Gibson America. Poor QC here.They're consistent with that.

    • @BennieTarrMusic
      @BennieTarrMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I live in Thailand and I've played 'Gibson' LPs in stores here that are obvious fakes from China, but still sound pretty damn good and cost about $300

    • @ericbgordon1575
      @ericbgordon1575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chances are, there are a couple of listeners to this channel remembering when $300 was the retail price for a guitar like this during the '60s or '70s. Those were the days when they looked great but were meant purely to be utilitarian. The Gibson name was not pumped up like it was by the time I started learning to play in the '90s.

    • @alexgama7567
      @alexgama7567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ericbgordon1575 , I found you comment very interesting, so I went and did some research.
      U.S. Inflation Rate, $300 from 1960 to 2020
      The U.S. dollar experienced an average inflation rate of 3.67% per year during this period, meaning the real value of a dollar decreased. In other words, $300 in 1960 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $2,614.57 in 2020, a difference of $2,314.57 over 60 years.
      Crazy, isn't it?

    • @ernestochang1744
      @ernestochang1744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexgama7567 that seems aboot right... Rest in peace canadian prices

  • @AMGL1989
    @AMGL1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a bridge issue. The notch doesn’t have a good enough break angle. If it were the nut, it wouldn’t sound the same fretted.

  • @Joshcheyka
    @Joshcheyka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trogly, I just bought a Slash Vermillion and it has a legit black border, its not transparent like yours. It appears they have several styles as you can choose many kinds from Sweetwater that range from full on black border to transparent red shading.

  • @media1981
    @media1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gibson always leaves a small flaws with each guitars to make them unique to each who owns them. Because I have not yet seen a single Gibson guitar that is flawless inside out.

  • @robertmcallister1323
    @robertmcallister1323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I got a PRS Tremonti SE for £500 new. Build quality was flawless and came out of the box in tune and totally playable. Have never needed to tweak it. Amazing guitar. Why can't Gibson do this at the prices they charge?

    • @saltpeter7429
      @saltpeter7429 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just wrote on here that I had a Tremonti se that really impressed me. Awesome neck. I dont care who endorses a guitar, I care if it is good. High five PRS SE.

  • @JuddLofthouse
    @JuddLofthouse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review 👍