I second that. On my 21 M340i xDrive I get up to 41mpg on the freeway and average 33-37mpg on my commute to work. Overall have averaged 31.2mpg since new. Have 44k on it now.
I have a 21 m340 and seriously thinking about tuning . Mind me asking , are you able to hook up from a dig with the extra power ? Also have you done a 0-60 run , if so what does it do it in ?
@@frankcastle1578 I'm on 275 Conti Extreme Contacts and I'm on the edge of traction. It's not that much more slippery than stock though TBH, it hooks pretty well. I just got a Dragy, haven't done a 0-60 yet. It's quicker than stock for sure.
The B58 is one of the best engines ever made. Finally, BMW with some input from Toyota has reliability too. What's not to like? Here in the UK we can get the Touring version with loads of space but the same dynamics. It'll do everything. Wonderful cars.
@@bmwblogbmw originally created the 1st generation B58 engine was in the f series cars (B58B30M0), before it was put in supras Toyota tested the engine and it didn’t fit certain standards. they then tweaked the engine which bmw now benefits from… Now all new gen B58s (B58B30O1) use the Toyota/BMW Tweaked engines and make reliable power and last a long time.. hope this helped
@XxICYxRAINxX why don't toyota give that same input to subaru/ Gr 86 engines. I heard they're blowing up, and toyota refused to honor the warranty. B58 was in production long before toyota used them in the supra.
95% of owners would do better with the 340i over the M3. Better ride for a daily driver and plenty fast. Unless you are a real hard charger, the 340 is a better choice for a daily than the M3.
The problem is that most people could probably be better served by a mid or large size SUV when it comes to daily driving than a M340i. I think that’s why sales of the 3 Series have declined over the past 10 years.
I daily my G80 actually had it since Christmas eve last year. had a 2021 540i previously that on my commute was getting around 29-30mpg. my G80 "on my commute" gets around 25mpg. factor in going to other drives, I'm around 23mpg for the G80 which is not bad at all consider that the 2014 F10 535i I had avg about the same mpg. I also don't find the ride to be that harsh tbh. also even with the MP front lip, it actually has higher clearance than my 540i with the MP style lip.
Don't get the criticism from some. I had a 340i best all rounder I have ever owned. More than enough performance for the road, economical and comfortable. The B58 engine is superb. Only reason I sold it was for a 440i Cabrio which is equally good.
I don't care who says what but this generation of BMWs I great engineering and also much reliable than what ordinary people think of and these B58s are super strong and reliable with a lot more than a potential.
I have owned the 2023 M340i for one year now. I totally agree with your review. One thing about the ride and suspension: I highly recommend you add the adaptive suspension to your car. I don't know what suspension package you had on this car.
I recently bought the 2023 m340i and having a blast with the car, it has plenty of power to ride on normal roads, super smooth handling and the interior is very nice. Coming from a 2014 lexus is350 this car is awsome and a neck breaker.
The Buttons removal in EVERY BMW is just disgusting and Makes NO Sens. It's Infuriating how they went Away from the Ergonomics that was Characteristic of their Brand. It's Not even Safe At All. it just piss me off....
Yep, it's dumb but it doesn't really bother me that much anymore. I'm actually more annoyed buy those fake vacuum cleaner tail pipe tips... wtf said that looked good lol. Give me real tail pipes or give me... an ev?
As a 2024 M440i gran coupe owner I agree 100%. I wish I had found a prior year model with the previous interior with real buttons. I don’t love the big screens one bit and the fake exhaust is a letdown. Wish I had found the right Audi S5 Sportback….
coming from the G30 540i LCI to the G80, I agree. BUT I don't find myself adjusting the air speed that often with the new car. overall hvac system is smarter than the old.
Nice review. Also my favorite current BMW as an all-rounder, and I’ve owned 5 full M cars in the past. Right size, right style, right balance of attributes. If BMW offered the same manual in the M340i as in the Z4, I’d likely buy one. I do understand that so few people like me exist, so BMW can’t make a case for that combo ☹️
I was shocked at how much better it was than the S5. I drove both the pre facelift and facelift variants of the m340i and both of them have just been 20% nicer to drive than the S5. Incredible
The M cars shine on the track. You’re not going to be able to make the M340 both as fast and reliable as the M3 for less than the cost of the M3 over the long term.
Why can’t they put the manual from the z4 into this. That would be fire. As it stands the i4 is a better daily driver but a manual would differentiate the 340.
These modern B58 BMWs are something else, honestly. The infotainment and lack of buttons is a dealbreaker though. You use those functions every time you’re in the car and it’s literally not safe to hide base functions between touch screen presses. That department of BMW are either stupid or being forced to follow this new ethos.
It's not that big of a deal. I rarely use any of the buttons in my 2022 M850 vs the touchscreen in my 2023 M340. The climate menu is right there on the idrive 8 to turn on heated seats and etc. What exactly are you needing to constantly change while driving?
@@PlayafromtheHimalayas I change the temperature a lot, as well as seat heating and air direction. Maybe I’m just a bit fussy over ambient temperature but in the G30 5er that I drive almost everyday, the buttons are just part of my muscle memory
@@UCZ15 I rarely change the temp as it self regulates like a home thermostat. But the temp controls for idrive 8 are on each side of the screen. No more press requirements than if you have the physical button.
Most if not all of those buttons and switchgear used to be made in Ukraine for export to German carmakers. Buttons and switchgears became hard to come by after the war started there two years ago.
@@bmwblog I was about to make a comment how you praise practicality, but you still don't get a chance to try the best shape, which is wagon (estate) like we do here in Europe. We still love wagons so much, that some very famous cars are now only released in that form, so basically you can pick up SUV or wagon. Which makes much more sense than choosing between SUV/crossover and sedan (hatchback). I consider this car as best all rounder in it's category with estate body and market confirms that. Only downside is that they are quite pricey over here.
Just bought one of these in the UK as touring to replace my previous generation 330D estate, absolutely loving it. After 2k miles seen 37mpg+ on longer journeys though typically mid-20s in the city. Only thing I'd love to change is lack of physical heater controls, not offering green as a colour option (bar exclusive colour at £3k+ and big wait) and if Apple CarPlay didn't need the whole screen and put Waze directions on the instrument panel. And if lottery numbers came up would be in the queue for an Alpina B3 Touring, enjoy these cars while we can
I have a 24 440, and on a good day, with the wind behind me, going downhill, in eco slug mode at 71 mph, I'm hard-pressed to get over 30 ( based on 100-200 straight highway) MPG wasn't the main interest, There's no way in hell the 440 would get close to 41mpg. I have about 15k since new, and the average since new is about 25-26mpg.
I own 23' M340ix, the car is great daily driver with very impressive fuel efficiency. However it has very numb steering, and almost no road feedback. You dont really feel the acceleration, even though its rather quick and nimble. G80 M3 is not a huge compromise in terms of comfort, of course... bit more harsh and worse fuel economy... still great though. If you can afford M3 or M4 get one, its very capable in being DD compared to F series. I regret not getting the G80 since there was just 16-7k price difference compared to 340i after tax write-off....
BMW's description: M3 = track tuned high performance car. M340i = road tuned high performance car. I'd never see a track so bought the road car and haven't been disappointed.
Nice review. And wow, the BMW crowd is a different breed. Reading the comments it seems some BMW enthusiasts resent the very existence of this car, as if it somehow takes something away from their beloved status as an M car owner/enthusiast.
I can answer for Sean since I drove the E92 M3. They handle differently. The m340i might be the faster car, but there is something special about the E92 M3 with a naturally aspirated engine. I would take the E92
I have iDrive 8 in my BMW i4. It's mostly fine, but the thing I miss the most are physical radio preset buttons. I have them on my 2018 Audi S4 and it makes flipping between channels a breeze. The voice commands in the BMW work pretty okay, but way too laggy for satellite radio channel flipping. I don't mind the climate controls so much in iDrive 8 since I usually just set the fans in Auto. Moving the temperature on the screen works reasonably well, though still a far cry from the rotating temperature knobs on the Audi. Despite those quibbles, I might well buy an M340i xDrive when the S4 hits its use-by date.
Hey amigo, genuine question. I test drove the 2024 M340($55k) and 2017 M3($45K) and 2018($55K, the LCI bumps it up). The m340 is much nicer with the wrapped screen on the inside, however, from drive perspective and cost perspective, what would you rather the less expensive older M3?
Dont recall what tires were on. I can look up some phots in the review. www.bmwblog.com/2024/04/03/2024-bmw-m340i-xdrive-review/ Usually they come with performance tires in California
i have a 23 m340i with 3k worth of downpipe and exhaust because i wanted more sound. i can’t imagine a more well rounded vehicle at the price point. i really need to rent an M3 onnTuro or something to see if its worth being a daily driver
I guess it is cost saving. But if 10-20% of buyers opt out because of the dash-design and lack of buttons then they are not saving anything? Also the gauge cluster should have a separate housing to separate certain functions from Media. And it looks more sporty.
the mild Hybrid is a great concept, but that is going to badly hurt the B58s reliability. I heard the new version nis already having massive reliability issues.
Great review!! I am going to check it out this week! Red with tan interior. I have a red with tan 2series coupe. Ready for something bigger but keeping the sporty look! Gorgeous car! Congrats!
Appreciate a good m340i video! Which cell phone mount are you using? I have one that clips into the vent, but would like to get that vent movement back.
I looked at a 2021 model and loved so many things about this car. However there were a few things i really didn't like too, like the fake exhausts, lack of standard spec when buying 2nd hand, and weak sounding stock exhaust.
Wonderful package. Great engine, and sadly there is no more development on new ice motors, so this is as good as it gets, and it is!. My only comment is “no manual transmission”, so that makes my only choice the M3 base, if I want a 4 door sedan with a manual transmission. If they can put the manual on the Z4, they could do it on this as well. We’ll see.
Just a correction about the mild hybrid motor - its not in the transmission, its attached by belt drive in the engine bay. You're describing the PHEV motor setup.
@@bmwblog IMO its a bad design. Starter motors have always used tooth or direct drive onto the crank, not belts for a good reason and that reason hasn't gone away. Having a starter generator that could potentially restart the engine dozens or hundreds of times on a long trip is just asking for a sudden belt break and wrecked engine 10 years down the line.
Pretty good review champ. I have been considering one of these for a while to replace my 2020 M2 Competition. I usually get a new car every 4 years or so but I still love the M2 so I’m still under-sided. I’ve had 2 M3’s in the past and a Mercedes C-63 but the M2 in my view is the better drivers car, whilst being a little harsh on poor roads. I don’t like the look of the new M2 so that’s off the list and then of course is the current M3/4 front.
I have a genuine question! What is faster this or a Tesla 3 I recently rented a 2024 330i and a 2020 or 2022 Tesla 3 and I was shocked that the Tesla was that fast! Which car would be better for me to get if I’m looking for the faster car?
G80 owner here- buy the g80. I don't daily it at all but definitely could be easily. Rides just fine in comfort settings. If you cannot afford M3 go with 440 or best you can afford.
I have a tuned 2020 m340 Honestly if you want a m340 than you care about performance and while it's a very quick car, we always want more Most m340 drivers will tune it If i didn't care about specs i would get a 330
Still trying to wrap my head around how this is $9K more than the M240i (when you add 19s and adaptive suspension for an apples to apples). You get 2 more doors, some more legroom, a mild hybrid, and a couple more luxury options. That should be $4K max. Seems like the coupe is a much better deal if you can get away with it, and the sedan market is just higher priced.
@@bmwblog Technically yes, but they are on the same platform with the same drivetrain. As noted the differences are minimal and don't seem to add up to $9K as noted. The extra space would be nice, but not $9K nice (and the M240i is slightly lighter and will handle a bit better).
I found the steering to be really lousy in this car, VSS was not predicable the way it loads in the corners, unlike the M2 and M3. The exterior is great though, hate idrive 8.
@@bmwblog I just prefer the old days when all BMW's had great steering. I must be getting old, but the other brands do a much better job at making steering more direct and natural. A base Macan with a 4 cylinder comes to mind. The X3M40 to me has a much more natural and direct feeling rack, then the current M340.
I was considering one a few months ago when I was car shopping - problem is the car would have been $63k the way I wanted and that is serious coin for a non M3 3 series.
Can the 340 idrive be upgraded to 8.5, etc? I know my 24 440 can't. The coast you refer to isn't fully engaged, if engaged at all, when using distance keeping /driver assist on., even in ecoslug mode.
@@bmwblog Yeah there are some things that BMW has definitely adopted "don't ask, don't tell" attitude. 8.0 was written by a group of programmers in a back room that were using Windows 3.0 as a navigation model
One thing is for sure, B58 again sounds much nicer than the M3/M4. The previous gen S55 in the M3/4 sounded grotesque, and the latest motor still sounds too raspy.
Great car but I've heard the 2024 auto stop-start function can't be manually disabled. It's Off in Sport Mode but On in Comfort. I'm not sure I'd want a car that turns itself off at every stoplight. A minor detail admittedly, but one that could be annoying and frustrating.
I dont know what you mean that" it doesnt get the credit that it deserves", but this has been my wish for my next car. Though personally I'd end up tuning it to get it more "fruity" as they'd say lmao. but yeah its the best of all worlds, fast, daily, comfortable, "cheap" not cheap but cheaper than an M3, BETTER GRILL lmao
Allow me to dispel the hype around the M light models somewhat. I had a 2022 G26 M440 GC XDrive and feel I can compare somewhat as I just received my G80 order. For one, the G80 steering feel is far superior. It isn't even close. Second, the manual option I opted for in my G80 makes it far more engaging/rewarding to drive quickly. So, while the B58 is unreal in its power and delivery, there is a very palpable and real distinction from the true M cars... especially if you know how to drive and like getting after it on some quieter roads.
There is no doubt that the M340i is a fantastic car, but people who looking at them should cross shop with the Giula 2.0 AND a 1-2 year old Giulia Quadrifoglio. Both have a much better steering rack and chassis tuning. The 2.0 will provide more efficiency and in my opinion, more fun around town. It's not until you get to winding country roads that the M340i's more powerful B58 might be enough of an advantage to edge out the Giulia 2.0's better handling and driving feel. And even then, it's tough to use the 382hp in the M340i to fullest extent without losing your license. If you want more performance, but don't want to spend M3 money and still want comfort for longer drives, the Giulia Quadrifoglio will check those boxes and then some. A 2 year old car with 2 years of warranty left will be about the same price or even cheaper than a fully loaded M340i. The Quadrifoglio competes with the M3, and even though it was released in 2017, it's still rated higher than the newer G80 in most serious reviews. But the amazing thing about the Quadrifoglio is in its Advanced or Natural settings, it rides softer than an M340i with M-Sport suspension, and will even be a bit softer than an M340i with Adaptive Suspension set to soft. But throw the QV in race mode, and it's more engaging than an M3. Subjectively, either version of the Giulia looks much better than the M340i, and both are far more unique. You will get questions about your car every time you park or get gas. You will look back at it every time you park. They are just fantastic cars.
best car I had. I recommend it. The only bad thing about it is BRAKES ;D These brakes do not brake. They only slow down the car ^^ Definitely this car should have 6-piston brakes in front. Not just 4.
I have the "ZTK" package with 374mm larger rotors and bigger calipers and so far I was not able to overheat them or have any brake fade. So the best M340i is with ZTK. Plus you have extra coolers.
I'm sick of this 'everything in the screen' no buttons nonsense. There needs to be regulations requiring physical buttons for climate adjustment and volume since automakers are just doing this to appease the Chinese market.
3-5 taps is better than 1 press of a button or turn of a dial? It’s a safety issue. Tactile feel is better to operate when driving. It’s not progression, it’s regression.
All X-drive cars tend to undesrteer and I hate it - nothing like a typical BMW handling although it gives you better traction especially when the car is tuned.
This new interior design look like designers work hard until the release day, but they have a delay and throw that big tablet to finish the job on time
I recently logged a 211 mile trip, freeway average 72mph, 40.1 mpg. I have a 2022 RWD and love it. Its a Swiss army knife.
Few weeks back did a 400 miles trip with 39 mpg on xdrive, for short trips my record is 50mpg over course of 25 miles.
@@Andy090216
I second that. On my 21 M340i xDrive I get up to 41mpg on the freeway and average 33-37mpg on my commute to work. Overall have averaged 31.2mpg since new. Have 44k on it now.
Are you using driver assist to set speed ?
@@craighermle7727 i do use ACC, but for predefined speed, dont like to use the speed set based on traffic signs.
I have a RWD stage 2 (500+hp) M340i and easily pull 36-37mpg on the highway in comfort. It's amazing.
😋😛😋🤤🤤🤤
I have a 21 m340 and seriously thinking about tuning . Mind me asking , are you able to hook up from a dig with the extra power ?
Also have you done a 0-60 run , if so what does it do it in ?
@@frankcastle1578 I'm on 275 Conti Extreme Contacts and I'm on the edge of traction. It's not that much more slippery than stock though TBH, it hooks pretty well. I just got a Dragy, haven't done a 0-60 yet. It's quicker than stock for sure.
@@embiggens1nice ! I’m thinking you should be able to run it in then mid 3.5 - 3.8 if you get a good launch . 😊
How are you hitting 500+ with a stage 2?
Hey that’s me! Thanks for letting me review that car, I absolutely loved it!
Any time!
The B58 is one of the best engines ever made. Finally, BMW with some input from Toyota has reliability too. What's not to like? Here in the UK we can get the Touring version with loads of space but the same dynamics. It'll do everything. Wonderful cars.
How did they get input from Toyota for the B58?
@@bmwblogbmw originally created the 1st generation B58 engine was in the f series cars (B58B30M0), before it was put in supras Toyota tested the engine and it didn’t fit certain standards. they then tweaked the engine which bmw now benefits from… Now all new gen B58s (B58B30O1) use the Toyota/BMW Tweaked engines and make reliable power and last a long time.. hope this helped
@XxICYxRAINxX stop spreading rumors for facts.
@@drone1028 sorry bro I’m actually a BMW tech and I was just joshin…
Fuel pump… HFP is the difference between new and old prior 2020 B58’s 😭😭
@XxICYxRAINxX why don't toyota give that same input to subaru/ Gr 86 engines. I heard they're blowing up, and toyota refused to honor the warranty. B58 was in production long before toyota used them in the supra.
95% of owners would do better with the 340i over the M3. Better ride for a daily driver and plenty fast. Unless you are a real hard charger, the 340 is a better choice for a daily than the M3.
The problem is that most people could probably be better served by a mid or large size SUV when it comes to daily driving than a M340i. I think that’s why sales of the 3 Series have declined over the past 10 years.
@@Polo08816Where did you get your info. from? This has been their best selling segment for this generation.
@@Polo08816you’re not responding to the question!
I daily my G80 actually had it since Christmas eve last year. had a 2021 540i previously that on my commute was getting around 29-30mpg. my G80 "on my commute" gets around 25mpg. factor in going to other drives, I'm around 23mpg for the G80 which is not bad at all consider that the 2014 F10 535i I had avg about the same mpg. I also don't find the ride to be that harsh tbh. also even with the MP front lip, it actually has higher clearance than my 540i with the MP style lip.
@@FrankW1029how many miles a month/ year do you do?
I bought the 2024 M340i in December 2023 and up till this point, I absolutely love every aspect of it.
Don't get the criticism from some. I had a 340i best all rounder I have ever owned. More than enough performance for the road, economical and comfortable. The B58 engine is superb. Only reason I sold it was for a 440i Cabrio which is equally good.
The B58 is legendary
Legend has it he's still adjusting the steering wheel towards him...
It’s true
Glad I'm not the only one thinking about this
I don't care who says what but this generation of BMWs I great engineering and also much reliable than what ordinary people think of and these B58s are super strong and reliable with a lot more than a potential.
I have owned the 2023 M340i for one year now. I totally agree with your review. One thing about the ride and suspension: I highly recommend you add the adaptive suspension to your car. I don't know what suspension package you had on this car.
I think this one had the adaptive. The Sports Suspension is still a bit too harsh
I recently bought the 2023 m340i and having a blast with the car, it has plenty of power to ride on normal roads, super smooth handling and the interior is very nice. Coming from a 2014 lexus is350 this car is awsome and a neck breaker.
Have had mine for a little over a year, love it. Good balance of power and fuel economy
Picked up mine 2 months ago a 2024 in Dravit grey.. Love it one of the better cars I've owned in a long time and it sounds awesome ..Good review
Good choice!
The Buttons removal in EVERY BMW is just disgusting and Makes NO Sens.
It's Infuriating how they went Away from the Ergonomics that was Characteristic of their Brand.
It's Not even Safe At All. it just piss me off....
Yep, it's dumb but it doesn't really bother me that much anymore. I'm actually more annoyed buy those fake vacuum cleaner tail pipe tips... wtf said that looked good lol. Give me real tail pipes or give me... an ev?
As a 2024 M440i gran coupe owner I agree 100%. I wish I had found a prior year model with the previous interior with real buttons. I don’t love the big screens one bit and the fake exhaust is a letdown. Wish I had found the right Audi S5 Sportback….
coming from the G30 540i LCI to the G80, I agree. BUT I don't find myself adjusting the air speed that often with the new car. overall hvac system is smarter than the old.
they should make it an option to have screen controls vs traditional dials
It's cost effective to remove all those buttons unfortunately
Nice review. Also my favorite current BMW as an all-rounder, and I’ve owned 5 full M cars in the past. Right size, right style, right balance of attributes. If BMW offered the same manual in the M340i as in the Z4, I’d likely buy one. I do understand that so few people like me exist, so BMW can’t make a case for that combo ☹️
Have the pre LCI 2020 model and absolutely love it. Particularly the use of buttons.
Idrive 7 FTW
If you are a BMW guy you know about the m340i's is a way better purchase than a M3
I like this guy. He seems genuine and knowledgeable about the product and cars - great review!
:) I'm assuming you know, Sean. He's great! Always good hearing from you, Michael.
My old boss, thanks!
Perfect car for the price range! Beats all competition including S5, C43 AMG
I was shocked at how much better it was than the S5. I drove both the pre facelift and facelift variants of the m340i and both of them have just been 20% nicer to drive than the S5. Incredible
These M lites punch way above their weight. More in competition with the RS / C63 tbf
You do know that the constant turning the engine off and on does prematurely kill your starter engine right?
I got one in 2023 and I love it
honestly these m40i models are crazy quick, makes the m almost redundant
Yes, but there is alway something extra spicy about M cars
@bmwblog my friend just got the g80 M3, I've driven the m440i and was a beast. So that M3 must be neck breaking
It is.No doubt
The M cars shine on the track. You’re not going to be able to make the M340 both as fast and reliable as the M3 for less than the cost of the M3 over the long term.
@@gilsonwilson5935For real neck breaking I recommend the i4 M50
Great review! Your sitting position seems a little close to the steering wheel!? Air bag goes off you gonna get hit pretty hard.
Why can’t they put the manual from the z4 into this. That would be fire. As it stands the i4 is a better daily driver but a manual would differentiate the 340.
Preaching to the choir
100% agree. Sadly, we are a couple of the very few people who would actually buy one.
These modern B58 BMWs are something else, honestly. The infotainment and lack of buttons is a dealbreaker though. You use those functions every time you’re in the car and it’s literally not safe to hide base functions between touch screen presses. That department of BMW are either stupid or being forced to follow this new ethos.
It's not that big of a deal. I rarely use any of the buttons in my 2022 M850 vs the touchscreen in my 2023 M340. The climate menu is right there on the idrive 8 to turn on heated seats and etc. What exactly are you needing to constantly change while driving?
@@PlayafromtheHimalayas I change the temperature a lot, as well as seat heating and air direction. Maybe I’m just a bit fussy over ambient temperature but in the G30 5er that I drive almost everyday, the buttons are just part of my muscle memory
@@UCZ15 I rarely change the temp as it self regulates like a home thermostat. But the temp controls for idrive 8 are on each side of the screen. No more press requirements than if you have the physical button.
Most if not all of those buttons and switchgear used to be made in Ukraine for export to German carmakers. Buttons and switchgears became hard to come by after the war started there two years ago.
I'd take an M340i any day!! Even though right now im in an 2017 X5 xDrive35i with MPPK and MPE. Sounds almost as good as the M340i lol
Have not seen an X5 like that in a while. Quite rare
Lots of additional weight you're moving around in your X5. 🤔
Too bad Bmw didn’t offer touring version with B58 here in the U.S. I’d take that over SUV any day.
The M340d touring is even better :)
@@bmwblog I was about to make a comment how you praise practicality, but you still don't get a chance to try the best shape, which is wagon (estate) like we do here in Europe. We still love wagons so much, that some very famous cars are now only released in that form, so basically you can pick up SUV or wagon. Which makes much more sense than choosing between SUV/crossover and sedan (hatchback). I consider this car as best all rounder in it's category with estate body and market confirms that. Only downside is that they are quite pricey over here.
I own the touring, its awesome❤
Coasting mode has been in BMWs for over 10 years. And the engine does not turn off it just goes to idle mode.
B58 is top class engine. But M3 is always M3
Just bought one of these in the UK as touring to replace my previous generation 330D estate, absolutely loving it. After 2k miles seen 37mpg+ on longer journeys though typically mid-20s in the city. Only thing I'd love to change is lack of physical heater controls, not offering green as a colour option (bar exclusive colour at £3k+ and big wait) and if Apple CarPlay didn't need the whole screen and put Waze directions on the instrument panel. And if lottery numbers came up would be in the queue for an Alpina B3 Touring, enjoy these cars while we can
That ALPINA B3 is a grail :) Amazing car
I have a 24 440, and on a good day, with the wind behind me, going downhill, in eco slug mode at 71 mph, I'm hard-pressed to get over 30 ( based on 100-200 straight highway) MPG wasn't the main interest, There's no way in hell the 440 would get close to 41mpg. I have about 15k since new, and the average since new is about 25-26mpg.
Absolute gem of a car. I’m so so happy I got mine
I own 23' M340ix, the car is great daily driver with very impressive fuel efficiency. However it has very numb steering, and almost no road feedback. You dont really feel the acceleration, even though its rather quick and nimble. G80 M3 is not a huge compromise in terms of comfort, of course... bit more harsh and worse fuel economy... still great though. If you can afford M3 or M4 get one, its very capable in being DD compared to F series. I regret not getting the G80 since there was just 16-7k price difference compared to 340i after tax write-off....
BMW's description:
M3 = track tuned high performance car.
M340i = road tuned high performance car.
I'd never see a track so bought the road car and haven't been disappointed.
You nailed it
Man thus car is absolutely perfect wish to get it one day 🤞🏻
Nice review. And wow, the BMW crowd is a different breed. Reading the comments it seems some BMW enthusiasts resent the very existence of this car, as if it somehow takes something away from their beloved status as an M car owner/enthusiast.
Agreed. It's just an option. Not everyone wants a full M.
Does the BMW you tested had daptive M suspension? or just the M sport suspension that comes as default with the vehicle?
Believe me a G80 M3 is a different level in everyway.
I had to get the M340i cos the carbon cod piece in the M3 would get I'm the way of my wang.
@@biddyboy1570 I took the sports seats because my shoulders would not fit in the buckets. And my Wang is considerably bigger than yours😃
@@geoffbullock8280 eh, you know what girls say about guys with big shoulders.
Yeah, slower 0-60
@@xXTrYhArrdXx 0-60 in 2.9 for standard m3 comp xdrive.
Thanks for the great review. Does it handle as good as E92 m3? I am trying to decide which one I should go for.
I can answer for Sean since I drove the E92 M3. They handle differently. The m340i might be the faster car, but there is something special about the E92 M3 with a naturally aspirated engine. I would take the E92
@@bmwblog Thanks for your comment!
I drove them both. I would go for de m340i 100%.
Its better in everything🤷♂️
Just think of the pros and cons of both cars before committing.
I have iDrive 8 in my BMW i4. It's mostly fine, but the thing I miss the most are physical radio preset buttons. I have them on my 2018 Audi S4 and it makes flipping between channels a breeze. The voice commands in the BMW work pretty okay, but way too laggy for satellite radio channel flipping. I don't mind the climate controls so much in iDrive 8 since I usually just set the fans in Auto. Moving the temperature on the screen works reasonably well, though still a far cry from the rotating temperature knobs on the Audi. Despite those quibbles, I might well buy an M340i xDrive when the S4 hits its use-by date.
Hey amigo, genuine question. I test drove the 2024 M340($55k) and 2017 M3($45K) and 2018($55K, the LCI bumps it up). The m340 is much nicer with the wrapped screen on the inside, however, from drive perspective and cost perspective, what would you rather the less expensive older M3?
That previous generation M3 is a great car. Can't go wrong with it
This guy's quite unhurried & sluggish, but he gets the job done and gives some of the 'you're in the car with me' and is detailed.
It's Sean's first video.I think he did great. It looks easier than it is
Thanks!
Nice review! I was wondering if you use the run-flats that come normally with the car, since there was mention of the tyres.
Dont recall what tires were on. I can look up some phots in the review. www.bmwblog.com/2024/04/03/2024-bmw-m340i-xdrive-review/ Usually they come with performance tires in California
This just sold me on the M340i
It's a great car
I had a 2020 m340 XDrive and I loved it. I have moved on to a 2023 X5MC 😊
My regrets!
i have a 23 m340i with 3k worth of downpipe and exhaust because i wanted more sound. i can’t imagine a more well rounded vehicle at the price point. i really need to rent an M3 onnTuro or something to see if its worth being a daily driver
Yes definitely rent an M3 before buying. It is absolutely amazing for spirited drives but hard to live with as a daily.
They need to put back the manual controls for everything other than the idrive and audio system. Having everything on a touchscreen is just dangerous!
I guess it is cost saving. But if 10-20% of buyers opt out because of the dash-design and lack of buttons then they are not saving anything?
Also the gauge cluster should have a separate housing to separate certain functions from Media. And it looks more sporty.
the mild Hybrid is a great concept, but that is going to badly hurt the B58s reliability. I heard the new version nis already having massive reliability issues.
I wonder why would it hurt though
I literally am in the market for one.
Great review!! I am going to check it out this week! Red with tan interior. I have a red with tan 2series coupe. Ready for something bigger but keeping the sporty look! Gorgeous car! Congrats!
Good choice!
Appreciate a good m340i video!
Which cell phone mount are you using? I have one that clips into the vent, but would like to get that vent movement back.
Why clip the phone to the vent? It’s not 2010 anymore, your car can do and display everything your phone can
Engine and exterior are good. What I am shock at is with this interior. Wide dash screen and less real AC buttons? Really? *shaking head*.
I looked at a 2021 model and loved so many things about this car. However there were a few things i really didn't like too, like the fake exhausts, lack of standard spec when buying 2nd hand, and weak sounding stock exhaust.
Are you in Europe? Because in the US, the exhaust is awesome
Wonderful package. Great engine, and sadly there is no more development on new ice motors, so this is as good as it gets, and it is!. My only comment is “no manual transmission”, so that makes my only choice the M3 base, if I want a 4 door sedan with a manual transmission.
If they can put the manual on the Z4, they could do it on this as well. We’ll see.
Couldn't agree more! Hopefully they will but I doubt it
Just a correction about the mild hybrid motor - its not in the transmission, its attached by belt drive in the engine bay. You're describing the PHEV motor setup.
True. Our fault
@@bmwblog IMO its a bad design. Starter motors have always used tooth or direct drive onto the crank, not belts for a good reason and that reason hasn't gone away. Having a starter generator that could potentially restart the engine dozens or hundreds of times on a long trip is just asking for a sudden belt break and wrecked engine 10 years down the line.
0:01 AUA ! Der schlägt die Tür so heftig zu als sei es ein sperriges Scheunentor. Was für ein brutaler Grobmotoriger !
How do you have the stitching on the airbag? I thought BMW ditched it for 2024?
Do these have a capacity touch steering wheel if you opt for the driver assistance stuff?
Pretty good review champ. I have been considering one of these for a while to replace my 2020 M2 Competition. I usually get a new car every 4 years or so but I still love the M2 so I’m still under-sided. I’ve had 2 M3’s in the past and a Mercedes C-63 but the M2 in my view is the better drivers car, whilst being a little harsh on poor roads. I don’t like the look of the new M2 so that’s off the list and then of course is the current M3/4 front.
Glad I could help
Id lean towards the M2 for the manual transmission.
Great video - thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I think the climate buttons is overblown. Mine is always on Auto and I can’t remeber last time I had to adjust fan speed.
Yes and no. Sometimes, you do need to adjust on the go and it's a bit annoying
I have a genuine question! What is faster this or a Tesla 3 I recently rented a 2024 330i and a 2020 or 2022 Tesla 3 and I was shocked that the Tesla was that fast!
Which car would be better for me to get if I’m looking for the faster car?
For faster car? Tesla. For more fun? M340i
G80 owner here- buy the g80. I don't daily it at all but definitely could be easily. Rides just fine in comfort settings. If you cannot afford M3 go with 440 or best you can afford.
I have 22’ 330i & I want a m3 competition but like u know the price LOL & BAM who knew I actually WANT AND WILL HAVE M340i ❤️😍😍😍😍
Get a pre lci m340, idrive 8 is a huge step backwards from 7.
I have a tuned 2020 m340
Honestly if you want a m340 than you care about performance and while it's a very quick car, we always want more
Most m340 drivers will tune it
If i didn't care about specs i would get a 330
Still trying to wrap my head around how this is $9K more than the M240i (when you add 19s and adaptive suspension for an apples to apples). You get 2 more doors, some more legroom, a mild hybrid, and a couple more luxury options. That should be $4K max. Seems like the coupe is a much better deal if you can get away with it, and the sedan market is just higher priced.
Different cars though. IMO
@@bmwblog Technically yes, but they are on the same platform with the same drivetrain. As noted the differences are minimal and don't seem to add up to $9K as noted. The extra space would be nice, but not $9K nice (and the M240i is slightly lighter and will handle a bit better).
Does the M240i or even the 230i RWD feel better in terms of steering feedback?
I found the steering to be really lousy in this car, VSS was not predicable the way it loads in the corners, unlike the M2 and M3. The exterior is great though, hate idrive 8.
Of course. The steering was supposed to be more numb. Softer. That was the idea
@@bmwblog I just prefer the old days when all BMW's had great steering. I must be getting old, but the other brands do a much better job at making steering more direct and natural. A base Macan with a 4 cylinder comes to mind. The X3M40 to me has a much more natural and direct feeling rack, then the current M340.
I was considering one a few months ago when I was car shopping - problem is the car would have been $63k the way I wanted and that is serious coin for a non M3 3 series.
Yes, prices went a bit crazy the last few years
I have a civic hatchback and been considering buying an M340i in a few years lol trying to decide if it’ll be worth it or not
Can the 340 idrive be upgraded to 8.5, etc? I know my 24 440 can't. The coast you refer to isn't fully engaged, if engaged at all, when using distance keeping /driver assist on., even in ecoslug mode.
I don't think it has the right head unit for the upgrade.
@@bmwblog Yeah there are some things that BMW has definitely adopted "don't ask, don't tell" attitude. 8.0 was written by a group of programmers in a back room that were using Windows 3.0 as a navigation model
I’m sick of people using 15 minutes to state 3 minutes of what we watched the video for. Sorry guy but get to the POINT!!!!!!!!!
One thing is for sure, B58 again sounds much nicer than the M3/M4. The previous gen S55 in the M3/4 sounded grotesque, and the latest motor still sounds too raspy.
I think they sound differently. Not sure if better or worse, but just a different approach.
Great car but I've heard the 2024 auto stop-start function can't be manually disabled. It's Off in Sport Mode but On in Comfort. I'm not sure I'd want a car that turns itself off at every stoplight. A minor detail admittedly, but one that could be annoying and frustrating.
Exactly. It's because of the mild hybrid
@@bmwblog Is there no way around this, other than driving around in Sport mode?
In europe we cant order it with RWD. I dont want an x-drive, so i have to finde another car. :( It would be perfect with rwd.
Don't worry, you guys get the M340i Touring and M340d Touring :) You win
I dont know what you mean that" it doesnt get the credit that it deserves", but this has been my wish for my next car. Though personally I'd end up tuning it to get it more "fruity" as they'd say lmao. but yeah its the best of all worlds, fast, daily, comfortable, "cheap" not cheap but cheaper than an M3, BETTER GRILL lmao
Allow me to dispel the hype around the M light models somewhat. I had a 2022 G26 M440 GC XDrive and feel I can compare somewhat as I just received my G80 order. For one, the G80 steering feel is far superior. It isn't even close. Second, the manual option I opted for in my G80 makes it far more engaging/rewarding to drive quickly.
So, while the B58 is unreal in its power and delivery, there is a very palpable and real distinction from the true M cars... especially if you know how to drive and like getting after it on some quieter roads.
I don't think anyone disagrees. The question is: is this a better daily driver? Is this the smarter choice if you don't need the full blown M bits?
Perfect summary, only thing this car is up against is depreciation alongside 335, 340 F80's
True, didnt think about the F80
Any specific reason your hands on the steering wheel are positioned that way, isn't it little too high ?
:) I think this is the old school of teaching hand position. I pointed that out to Sean as well :)
Honestly the steering wheel grips felt great so even though I usually drive 9 - 3, I sort of switched it up a bit lol
Thanks for swaying me towards the m340 haha
Next year I'll be selling my M3 to get a RAV4 hybrid. Too many cops on the Crest to have fun and I don't trust the BMW on ski trips to Mammoth.
It’s worth to buy.
For sure they have fortified the doors to withstand crash close like we witnessed.
Eh, it's just a door. Nothing happens
Car companies are not listening to the buttons issues
Talked to my dealer!! 🔥👌
There is no doubt that the M340i is a fantastic car, but people who looking at them should cross shop with the Giula 2.0 AND a 1-2 year old Giulia Quadrifoglio. Both have a much better steering rack and chassis tuning. The 2.0 will provide more efficiency and in my opinion, more fun around town. It's not until you get to winding country roads that the M340i's more powerful B58 might be enough of an advantage to edge out the Giulia 2.0's better handling and driving feel. And even then, it's tough to use the 382hp in the M340i to fullest extent without losing your license.
If you want more performance, but don't want to spend M3 money and still want comfort for longer drives, the Giulia Quadrifoglio will check those boxes and then some. A 2 year old car with 2 years of warranty left will be about the same price or even cheaper than a fully loaded M340i. The Quadrifoglio competes with the M3, and even though it was released in 2017, it's still rated higher than the newer G80 in most serious reviews. But the amazing thing about the Quadrifoglio is in its Advanced or Natural settings, it rides softer than an M340i with M-Sport suspension, and will even be a bit softer than an M340i with Adaptive Suspension set to soft. But throw the QV in race mode, and it's more engaging than an M3.
Subjectively, either version of the Giulia looks much better than the M340i, and both are far more unique. You will get questions about your car every time you park or get gas. You will look back at it every time you park. They are just fantastic cars.
Haven't tried the Giulia 2.0 in a while. It's good, but heard about customers having different issues with it. Did they address most of these?
The newer MY2020+ are just about as reliable as the Germans. The QV has come a long way as well.@@bmwblog
best car I had. I recommend it. The only bad thing about it is BRAKES ;D These brakes do not brake. They only slow down the car ^^ Definitely this car should have 6-piston brakes in front. Not just 4.
I think Sean pointed out the brakes as well.
I have the "ZTK" package with 374mm larger rotors and bigger calipers and so far I was not able to overheat them or have any brake fade. So the best M340i is with ZTK. Plus you have extra coolers.
Best car I’ve ever owned
Congrats
Nice car, always like the 3 Series.
What's better m340i non mht or mht version
Tough to say. I drove both. Maybe the non. But you get better efficiency with this one
I'm sick of this 'everything in the screen' no buttons nonsense. There needs to be regulations requiring physical buttons for climate adjustment and volume since automakers are just doing this to appease the Chinese market.
Why you making it sound so bad. My m340i is all screen and love it. Amazing to touch
3-5 taps is better than 1 press of a button or turn of a dial? It’s a safety issue. Tactile feel is better to operate when driving. It’s not progression, it’s regression.
@@schooloftonyhumphries2647 poor you 🙄
@bestcrazyboy8487 it's not about me😆
bro destoyed that door
Idriver 7 is the best
I was left behind with my A45s when I met a tuned M340i on traffic lights. My ego got hurt so much I ordered M3, f* these B58s!
Look good = Audi
Go good = BMW
All X-drive cars tend to undesrteer and I hate it - nothing like a typical BMW handling although it gives you better traction especially when the car is tuned.
I haven't found that. A gentle lift off mid corner gets the car to rotate nicely defeating understeer.
This new interior design look like designers work hard until the release day, but they have a delay and throw that big tablet to finish the job on time
For me, even the M340i is an overkill. The 330i has plenty and sufficient power for daily driving.
Even the 320i is ok for commuting.
Is that „sunset orange“ color?
Melbourne Red
I want this car so bad 😢but other financial commitments eat up my disposable income ughh one day soon 🙏