She got the best deal out of all the wives; living in properties henry gifted her, she continued to be invited to court known as Henry's 'beloved sister', and she outlived the rest of his wives.
exactly! Who would've thought "her portrait not matching how she looked in person" being the reason for her divorce was her saving grace from this marriage? thank god!
It always pisses me off how Henry would tell everyone she smelled bad when it was his own uclerating wound on his leg that smelled like death. Didn't help that the idiot was so proud of his damn calves he would wear tight garters around the base of his knees cutting off blood flow and making everything worse! What a great stinking idiot.
In the show, it seems that Henry later became attracted to Anne, because of her inner beauty & intelligence. I’m glad Anne gave back the ring to Henry, because he was so not good enough for her.
@@vinnieviddivicci5459 she got land, money each month, and the title of ' the kings dear sister' after the divorce. She became a very rich woman with her own castles. In those days it was unheard of
Don't misunderstand. Anne of Cleves ended up having a great life. But Katherine Parr eventually married a man she loved, though she died in childbirth. Still, she survived Henry. Not all of his wives did.
I felt like he felt bad for setting her up to the king if you see when she meets the kings Daughter Charles doesn’t look too happy more upset probably since he’s heard the king putting a fuss he feared Anne’s fate
I wounder if she was ever crowned. I loved that part where she returned her wedding ring to his majesty HENRY...and the look on his face was priceless....
No. Anne Boleyn was the last of his wives to have a coronation. Jane probably would have had a coronation, but she died not long after giving birth to her son.
@@ladyv5655 I have always wondered why Jane Seymour didn't have a coronation. Anne Boleyn was pregnant at the time of her coronation and she and Henry had only been married about 6 months at the time. Jane Seymour and Henry were married 17 months before her death and Henry did talk about a coronation for her, but never actually put those words into action... Then again Anne Boleyn's coronation was very important because Catherine of Aragon was still alive and Henry needed to secure Anne's status as the queen of England. Perhaps she wouldn't have had such a speedy coronation either if Catherine of Aragon had been dead and there wouldn't have been any discussions about her legitimacy as a queen.
problem is by that stage Henry was probably having his own sexual difficulties so we'd never know.And Anne could never remarry as the grounds for her divorce was her being 'married' to a duke- so she was technically married
It was actually really brave of her, if you think about it. She knew that Henry could order her execution at any minute, but she still was sassy enough to give him a symbolic middle finger by sending him her wedding ring with the sarcastic message "destroy this, for it is a thing of little value" Even Henry couldn't miss the unspoken "fuck you, Henry" in that gesture
@@theshillneckedlizard8364 Henry couldn't just execute her no matter what. But she could have ended up like Catherine of Aragon if Henry got furious. But still he couldn't just order a daughter of the Duke of Cleves executed just like how he couldn't get rid of Catherine of Aragon via execution. They are both Princesses/Royalties in their own right and I don't think Henry would risk conflict in their respective kingdoms for killing them.
Truly. If Henry had been stupid enough to order Catherine of Aragon or Anne of Cleves’ deaths he would have been toast. Spain would have beat his ass or Germany would have.
@@Yuno-rr5bw I think this is exactly right. I don't think it's a coincidence the wives he executed were English, i.e. his subjects... the show gives us other reasons too, but I'm sure the political ramifications factored in to some extent.
Does anyone have the scene where Henry and Anne are playing cards and after she wins he asks her if he can stay the night with her (I think that's what happened lol). I love her reaction to it and the fact that they did spend the night together, looking satisfied with each other in that moment (even though he's married to Katherine Howard who I think was dallying around with Culpepper at the time).
I’ve never even watched The Tudors but Joss Stone’s smile is just really really really cute so I can’t help but watch every Tudors’ clip she’s in now lol
I cannot like Catherine Parr that much. She was smarter than the rest when dealing with Henry, but it isn't a special intelligence to learn from the fate of her predecessors. Yes, she did reconcile Henry and his daughters, but she married Thomas Seymour, who was a very bad person and allowed him to sexually abuse Elizabeth, that is a major strike against her and I dislike her the most, even after Jane Seymour.
what is believed by some historians, the irony is after cleves, he couldn't produce a child so maybe he became infirtile also i love Anne of Cleves, she was such a wholesome person
Anne was simply not Henry's type. She was tall and solidly built (Henry preferred petite women), she was blonde (Henry preferred brunettes and redheads. He could not tell from her portrait, as her head was completely covered, and he curiously never inquired about her hair color), she knew no English at first, and she was neither intellectually skilled nor could she dance or play any instruments. Her only talent was sewing. Anne expressed both dismay and surprise when Henry married Catherine Parr (she apparently hoped he would take her back after Catherine Howard was executed), saying that she (Anne) was prettier than Catherine Parr, and portraits suggest that they were at least equal in appearance. Catherine Parr was also quite tall, but at that point, Henry was seeking a nursemaid companion more than anything else.
Perhaps she was more clever than she is given credit for. After all she ended up as the #4 ranking woman in the kingdom (after the king's wife and daughters).
I believe her brother, who was quite fond of her, had the biggest navy in the North Atlantic. So it would have been stupid of Henry to piss him off by being rude or cruel to Anne. Hence the generous divorce settlement.
@3:08 he finds out he made mistake of dumping her. @6:17 she feels saddened about the short marriage he put her through. @6:24 he is feeling very bad about how he treated her.
In real life Anne did not return the ring in person, she sent it via messenger with an accompanying letter. The words are accurate though; in the letter, she told Henry to "break it into pieces, for it is a thing of little value." Gotta hand it to Anne - queen of shade!
Production meeting: "We need an actress to play a woman Henry found wholly unattractive. Suggestions?" "Uhhhh......Joss Stone?" "BRILLIANT! Whoever said snorting your body weight in cocaine makes you stupid had clearly never done as much cocaine as we have tonight!" "I *KNOW* right? You know what we need, like, right now?" "No, what?" "MORE COCAINE! obviously. So, so obviously. .."
Anne was actually very pretty but she accidently hurt Henry's pride at the first meeting, when he came disguised as a commoner and she reacted as any woman reacts when a strange man comes intro her personal space. They just didn't het along, luckily after their divorce they did But this was hella funny, I laughed
Yeah, you all make good points, i don't disagree with any of you. What i was saying is that only a cokehead would be trying to cast an actress to be that ugly duckling and choose Joss Stone. The very beautiful and talented Joss Stone. I'm not looking at this through the lens of history, i know that the real Anne wasn't what most of us would think of as unattractive. I'm just saying that Joss is not who i would think of when trying to cast an ugly duckling. Unless i was on an unhealthy (even by the "IT'S FUCKING COCAINE!" Standard) amount of cocaine. Again, NOT a commentary on the real life Anne of Cleves, who I'm sure was also a beautiful and talented woman. It was just a joke about a tv show. And cocaine.
Pretty sure it is a German accent as she often ends her sentences harshly on the consonants and not make them float on vowels like a French accent would typically do.
Germans would not have sent an ugly person He disliked that she was no nonsense and just not in love or lust for him Being a German she was not prone to be a coquette like Ann Boleyn She was as serious as Catherine of Aragon without her bigotry and she was as innocent and good natured to conquer him as a friend and sister He enjoyed visiting her and gave her riches without expecting anything in return
Pretty sure the acting and portrayal of personality matters more which all the actresses do a phenomenal job doing with a few exceptions just being alright.
She got the best deal out of all the wives; living in properties henry gifted her, she continued to be invited to court known as Henry's 'beloved sister', and she outlived the rest of his wives.
She knew that Catherine of Aragon was exiled and Anne Boleyn was executed. She was smart enough to know that any other choice would not end well.
exactly! Who would've thought "her portrait not matching how she looked in person" being the reason for her divorce was her saving grace from this marriage? thank god!
She still died at 42. Probably a virgin.
ANNE WAS A HONORABLE WOMAN.SHE WAS GOOD TO EVEYBODY
It always pisses me off how Henry would tell everyone she smelled bad when it was his own uclerating wound on his leg that smelled like death. Didn't help that the idiot was so proud of his damn calves he would wear tight garters around the base of his knees cutting off blood flow and making everything worse! What a great stinking idiot.
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exactly! i mean ... ugh! so glad he divorced her, which set her free from this marriage thank god!
I love how Henry's like "damn, I gave up a good thing."
Aleksander Todoric Honestly, it’s a good thing he did, but I get what you mean
Anne probably later appreciated the value of not being desired by Henry. Most of his wives had unhappy lives and deaths.
Right
@@aleksander4519 I wished he never divorced Catherine of Aragon.
In the show, it seems that Henry later became attracted to Anne, because of her inner beauty & intelligence. I’m glad Anne gave back the ring to Henry, because he was so not good enough for her.
She was the true survivor among the wives
What about wife #6 Katherine Parr? She outlived Henry.
@@vinnieviddivicci5459 she got land, money each month, and the title of ' the kings dear sister' after the divorce.
She became a very rich woman with her own castles. In those days it was unheard of
@@vinnieviddivicci5459 yes. But Anne of Cleves is often overlooked as a survivor due to the rhyme about the six wives
Don't misunderstand. Anne of Cleves ended up having a great life. But Katherine Parr eventually married a man she loved, though she died in childbirth. Still, she survived Henry. Not all of his wives did.
@@vinnieviddivicci5459 I'm just saying that the fact that she survived Henry VIII is often overlooked because of her divorce.
Henry Cavill and Joss Stone has a chemistry
I noticed that as well. They should have hooked up.
Am i the only one think Charles and Anne are cute together? I like to think the he was a good friend of her... And least in the series
I was just thinking that. The both enjoy their humor which makes their interaction so good. I would enjoy to see more scenes of them.
I felt like he felt bad for setting her up to the king if you see when she meets the kings Daughter Charles doesn’t look too happy more upset probably since he’s heard the king putting a fuss he feared Anne’s fate
She was a Princess, a very kind, good person. Very much liked by all that knew her.
@@izfroggzy8796 She knew how to play well and survived.
It one of my favourite friendships in the series
Totally platonic to me open and honest
I love that dress. The color, embellishments, and the way it flatters her figure are lovely. Joss stone is so beautiful
She’s got an infectious smile.
Alice Graham agree
I really love her outfit they were so very beautiful looking
I agree she's beautiful
She really is. That's why i found it so amusing they used her to play a woman Henry wasn't attracted to.
Clearly a decision fueled by cocaine lol
I wounder if she was ever crowned. I loved that part where she returned her wedding ring to his majesty HENRY...and the look on his face was priceless....
She was never crowned.
@@vinnieviddivicci5459 thank you for answering my question...
@@lauradarnallterry5464 - In fact, I think after Jane, none of his wives were crowned.
No. Anne Boleyn was the last of his wives to have a coronation. Jane probably would have had a coronation, but she died not long after giving birth to her son.
@@ladyv5655 I have always wondered why Jane Seymour didn't have a coronation. Anne Boleyn was pregnant at the time of her coronation and she and Henry had only been married about 6 months at the time. Jane Seymour and Henry were married 17 months before her death and Henry did talk about a coronation for her, but never actually put those words into action...
Then again Anne Boleyn's coronation was very important because Catherine of Aragon was still alive and Henry needed to secure Anne's status as the queen of England. Perhaps she wouldn't have had such a speedy coronation either if Catherine of Aragon had been dead and there wouldn't have been any discussions about her legitimacy as a queen.
Wouldn't it be ironic if Anne of Cleves was the most fertile of them all?
Right? They probably would have had 10 boys together.
Going on how they described her body type I definitely think she would've been very good at baby making and birthing lol
problem is by that stage Henry was probably having his own sexual difficulties so we'd never know.And Anne could never remarry as the grounds for her divorce was her being 'married' to a duke- so she was technically married
She probably was but one will never know !
It’s a male that determines the sex of a child not a woman people should get that in their heads
I LOVE Sara Bolger as Princess Mary- not one curtseys like her - or gives a better stink-eye.
I agree. Sara curtsies with grace and elegance.
When she said the wedding ring he gave her is “a thing of no value” I couldn’t stop laughing 💀💀💀
It was actually really brave of her, if you think about it. She knew that Henry could order her execution at any minute, but she still was sassy enough to give him a symbolic middle finger by sending him her wedding ring with the sarcastic message "destroy this, for it is a thing of little value" Even Henry couldn't miss the unspoken "fuck you, Henry" in that gesture
@@theshillneckedlizard8364 Henry couldn't just execute her no matter what. But she could have ended up like Catherine of Aragon if Henry got furious. But still he couldn't just order a daughter of the Duke of Cleves executed just like how he couldn't get rid of Catherine of Aragon via execution. They are both Princesses/Royalties in their own right and I don't think Henry would risk conflict in their respective kingdoms for killing them.
Truly. If Henry had been stupid enough to order Catherine of Aragon or Anne of Cleves’ deaths he would have been toast. Spain would have beat his ass or Germany would have.
@@Yuno-rr5bw I think this is exactly right. I don't think it's a coincidence the wives he executed were English, i.e. his subjects... the show gives us other reasons too, but I'm sure the political ramifications factored in to some extent.
@@xxwhispersxx2856 not just Spain, but the Vatican & the Holy Roman Empire because Catharine’s nephews ruled both.
When she returns the ring. Love it!
I Think the main reason Anne of cleves survived the King was because He was smitten by her happiness :)
Does anyone have the scene where Henry and Anne are playing cards and after she wins he asks her if he can stay the night with her (I think that's what happened lol). I love her reaction to it and the fact that they did spend the night together, looking satisfied with each other in that moment (even though he's married to Katherine Howard who I think was dallying around with Culpepper at the time).
I was looking for that scene to
It’s seasons 4 episode 3, Ive searched for that episode a lot now and I’ve finally found it haha 😅
@@juiii9022 whereeeeeeeeee? Pls tell me😭💗
@@taissocla2733 did you find it 😭 cause i don't remember that omg
@@taissocla2733 ah I was watching it on Amazon prime, I meant I finally found the scene :)
I’ve never even watched The Tudors but Joss Stone’s smile is just really really really cute so I can’t help but watch every Tudors’ clip she’s in now lol
I think she was very pretty
Anne is my favorite
Along with Anne Boleyn and Catherine Parr
May she Rest In Peace
I cannot like Catherine Parr that much. She was smarter than the rest when dealing with Henry, but it isn't a special intelligence to learn from the fate of her predecessors. Yes, she did reconcile Henry and his daughters, but she married Thomas Seymour, who was a very bad person and allowed him to sexually abuse Elizabeth, that is a major strike against her and I dislike her the most, even after Jane Seymour.
He knew thst he messed up. Anne was free and didn't have to deal with all that baby shit. He gave her money and welcomed her at court.
Beautiful costumes, jewelry and head decorations!
This is a great video, she had to have been the luckiest of his wives in the long run.
She died on my birthday 444 years before. But from now on i will honor her on my birthday
She became Henry's friend also.
She died on my birthday......many many years before
he realized at that turned the ring he screwed up HARDCORE and she is the one he should have kept
Anna boleyn and anne of cleves were the most iconic queens out of the 6 wives
Actually Catherine of Aragon is.
@@luxetveritas9196 her to ig
In this series Anne Boleyn and Mary look same sometime I mean they look like mother and daughter
Joss Stone is beautiful!
what is believed by some historians, the irony is after cleves, he couldn't produce a child so maybe he became infirtile also i love Anne of Cleves, she was such a wholesome person
King Henry VIII did produce a child after his marriage with Anne. He had a son with Jane Seymour.
@@s.w.d4010They are taking about Anne of Cleves/ Anna Von Kleve not Anne Boleyn.
I love her!!!!!
Katherine Howard trying hard not to look like a naughty girl in front of the sober and serious Mary 😂😂
Anne was simply not Henry's type. She was tall and solidly built (Henry preferred petite women), she was blonde (Henry preferred brunettes and redheads. He could not tell from her portrait, as her head was completely covered, and he curiously never inquired about her hair color), she knew no English at first, and she was neither intellectually skilled nor could she dance or play any instruments. Her only talent was sewing. Anne expressed both dismay and surprise when Henry married Catherine Parr (she apparently hoped he would take her back after Catherine Howard was executed), saying that she (Anne) was prettier than Catherine Parr, and portraits suggest that they were at least equal in appearance. Catherine Parr was also quite tall, but at that point, Henry was seeking a nursemaid companion more than anything else.
Didn't Parr nearly get beheaded too?
@@elyzionite yup
He already had Anne de cleves as a sister
@@elyzionite no he died during they're mariage
@@elyzioniteNo, only Boleyn and Howard did.
Perhaps she was more clever than she is given credit for. After all she ended up as the #4 ranking woman in the kingdom (after the king's wife and daughters).
Anne of Cleaves was the most beautiful, in real life and in The Tudors 😊
How cute and beautiful lady Anne 😍🤩😊
That is so sweet 💖
Sometimes avarage look is a blessing.
She was lucky !
Why?
@@ds1868 ...The king didn't decapitate her !
She was the luckiest of the six, yes more than Parr
@@EstherHulst-Artist- You mean Howard. Katherine Parr, wife #6, outlived Henry.
No. She was smart, not lucky. Smart!
I'm related to Anne of Cleves.
I believe her brother, who was quite fond of her, had the biggest navy in the North Atlantic. So it would have been stupid of Henry to piss him off by being rude or cruel to Anne. Hence the generous divorce settlement.
But he has been bad with Catherine of Aragon who had a nephew king
I was born 400 years to the day after she died.
Forgive me if I get to shy
But Henry you're the reason why
I'm feeling butterflies
Apparently ,lady Anne of cleves was kind and adored by English people.
OK ITS JULY 16 IM GONNA WATCH AS MANY THINGS TO HONOR MY FAVORITE QUEEN
It’s crazy that they cast someone attractive to play someone the King referred to as “looking like a horse”
*break this wedding ring into pieces*
Kathy Burk got quite excited when she found they were auditioning for this role.
He plays with hearts and heads
Don't get why Henry introduced Anne to Katherine. Katherine was her lady in waiting
Anne😍😘😘😘😘😘♥️♥️♥️♥️
They should have prepared her for Henry surprising her, but I'm glad they didn't. They really did her a favor.
@3:08 he finds out he made mistake of dumping her. @6:17 she feels saddened about the short marriage he put her through. @6:24 he is feeling very bad about how he treated her.
In real life Anne did not return the ring in person, she sent it via messenger with an accompanying letter. The words are accurate though; in the letter, she told Henry to "break it into pieces, for it is a thing of little value." Gotta hand it to Anne - queen of shade!
This is were i fall in love with Henry Cavill
Why
Production meeting:
"We need an actress to play a woman Henry found wholly unattractive. Suggestions?"
"Uhhhh......Joss Stone?"
"BRILLIANT! Whoever said snorting your body weight in cocaine makes you stupid had clearly never done as much cocaine as we have tonight!"
"I *KNOW* right? You know what we need, like, right now?"
"No, what?"
"MORE COCAINE! obviously. So, so obviously. .."
And just so it's not confusing, i think joss stone is an amazing and beautiful woman. I'm a fan of hers lol
Actual Anne of Cleves was also attractive, she wasn't interested in Henry during marriage, so he invented an excuse for divorce.
Anne was actually very pretty but she accidently hurt Henry's pride at the first meeting, when he came disguised as a commoner and she reacted as any woman reacts when a strange man comes intro her personal space. They just didn't het along, luckily after their divorce they did
But this was hella funny, I laughed
the idea is she is an ugly duckling who becomes a beautiful swan
Yeah, you all make good points, i don't disagree with any of you. What i was saying is that only a cokehead would be trying to cast an actress to be that ugly duckling and choose Joss Stone.
The very beautiful and talented Joss Stone.
I'm not looking at this through the lens of history, i know that the real Anne wasn't what most of us would think of as unattractive.
I'm just saying that Joss is not who i would think of when trying to cast an ugly duckling. Unless i was on an unhealthy (even by the "IT'S FUCKING COCAINE!" Standard) amount of cocaine.
Again, NOT a commentary on the real life Anne of Cleves, who I'm sure was also a beautiful and talented woman. It was just a joke about a tv show.
And cocaine.
465 years.
I have one question why does she have a French accent when she is German
Same r
Pretty sure it is a German accent as she often ends her sentences harshly on the consonants and not make them float on vowels like a French accent would typically do.
Why are all the Tudor clips like this?
Like what?
@@bowtoyoursensei554 Manually filmed off of a TV with a phone 😆😄
Anne Cleve send to the England wedding day
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Little did sweet Catherine know she would die a gruesome unjust death by the man she called husband.
Why history says she was ugly i don't think she was i also think she was nicer lookin than some of his wives 🤔
Germans would not have sent an ugly person
He disliked that she was no nonsense and just not in love or lust for him
Being a German she was not prone to be a coquette like Ann Boleyn
She was as serious as Catherine of Aragon without her bigotry and she was as innocent and good natured to conquer him as a friend and sister
He enjoyed visiting her and gave her riches without expecting anything in return
It is said she had scars of variole on her face
They couldn't find a actress who could speak with a believable German accent?
Most of all these actors look nothing like the real people that they are portraying, very unrealistic.
uh duh... none of us today were there lmao
Some wives don’t even have confirmed portraits, so it’s impossible to make them look like the actual queens
So ???
Pretty sure the acting and portrayal of personality matters more which all the actresses do a phenomenal job doing with a few exceptions just being alright.