To answer your question as to how the nemes was able to create and maintain the geometric shape as seen in the artwork, I'd like to point out that the ancient Egyptians mainly produced and wore linens. The lower classes wore coarser linen, while the upper classes could afford fine, airy linens. This cloth would then be pleated in one way or another, allowing it to fit snuggly against the body and create those crisp lines. I can't remember if you mentioned it last video, but the "Tarkhan Dress," a tomb find dating to the late fourth millennium BC, still shows evidence of these pleats. Said pleats were not stitched down into place as they are today, but starched. When a textile is starched, it becomes stiff and will hold the desired shape better than if left alone. Have you tried starching your fabrics throughout your experiments? That might be a solution to your problem. I'd recommend doing a bit of research into the topic if possible, it's quite fascinating.
How come nobody has sold these clothes in the modern day? I would kill for these in stores! Although I will try my best to sew myself a nemes, both your videos on ancient Egyptian fashion are amazing!
Hi! Just a quick note, I worship the Goddess Nut, and her name is pronounced more along the lines of "noot," like boot but with an "N"! Or, "new-it" in some texts! I adore this video, I'm looking into veiling, and a few styles really called out to me in this video!
Queen Tiye had amazing examples of wigs and headdresses on her statuary. Also, there is a book The Royal Women of Amarna, which breaks down outfits and jewellery in detail of that time period.
Thank you so much for mentioning this book! Is it this one from the Met? It's wonderful with so many great images, and I wanted to link it here in case it's helpful to some more people! www.metmuseum.org/art/metpublications/The_Royal_Women_of_Amarna_Images_of_Beauty_from_Ancient_Egypt
This was so fascinating. I've never been into anything Egyptian but I love these ideas. Several years ago I read The Red Tent by Anita Diamant- which is the historical fiction story of Dinah. She was the only daughter of Jacob and Rachel from the Old Testament part of the Bible. Her brother, Joseph eventually became a seer for the Egyptian pharaoh (his story was made into Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat). She was taken away along with her Egyptian mother in-law and went to live in Egypt after her husband was murdered by some of her other brothers. The author was talking about the Egyptian linen being woven so fine as to be almost sheer. Are there any extant examples of linen that are like that? I know fibers don't last as long as other materials.
Greetings! I will be attending my very first SCA event in August 2023. Pennsic Wars. Second week Aug 4th -13th 2023. The friend I will be going with is a long time member and has an established Persona. I am still working on mine. Being a crafty dancer [ belly dance] I am focusing in on Egypt. Thank you for this video! Very helpful! However I was trying to find a the pdf pattern on your website and couldn't find it? Should I just sign up on your website, or send you an email ? Please let me know Yes this is a duplicate comment
I’d love to see you attempt some of the other crowns, like the cap crown, that would have been worse by women. I think felt, reed frames, or horsehair are all plausible construction materials for them
Appearently ancien Egyptians had an elongated skullshape, similar to that of some african populations, which allowed them to do those kinds of knots solidely on a shaved head. Those who decided to let their hair grow would have a variety of hair textures, probably coily to soft curls. The phenotypes showed by these Egyptian populations were a mixture of what we would consider an East African look and a Sephardic jew look.
To answer your question as to how the nemes was able to create and maintain the geometric shape as seen in the artwork, I'd like to point out that the ancient Egyptians mainly produced and wore linens. The lower classes wore coarser linen, while the upper classes could afford fine, airy linens. This cloth would then be pleated in one way or another, allowing it to fit snuggly against the body and create those crisp lines. I can't remember if you mentioned it last video, but the "Tarkhan Dress," a tomb find dating to the late fourth millennium BC, still shows evidence of these pleats. Said pleats were not stitched down into place as they are today, but starched.
When a textile is starched, it becomes stiff and will hold the desired shape better than if left alone. Have you tried starching your fabrics throughout your experiments? That might be a solution to your problem. I'd recommend doing a bit of research into the topic if possible, it's quite fascinating.
Thank you, that was very helpful!
How come nobody has sold these clothes in the modern day? I would kill for these in stores! Although I will try my best to sew myself a nemes, both your videos on ancient Egyptian fashion are amazing!
Hi! Just a quick note, I worship the Goddess Nut, and her name is pronounced more along the lines of "noot," like boot but with an "N"! Or, "new-it" in some texts! I adore this video, I'm looking into veiling, and a few styles really called out to me in this video!
I've been fascinated by ancient Egypt most of my life, so I'm loving this series!
Queen Tiye had amazing examples of wigs and headdresses on her statuary. Also, there is a book The Royal Women of Amarna, which breaks down outfits and jewellery in detail of that time period.
Thank you so much for mentioning this book! Is it this one from the Met? It's wonderful with so many great images, and I wanted to link it here in case it's helpful to some more people! www.metmuseum.org/art/metpublications/The_Royal_Women_of_Amarna_Images_of_Beauty_from_Ancient_Egypt
This was so fascinating. I've never been into anything Egyptian but I love these ideas. Several years ago I read The Red Tent by Anita Diamant- which is the historical fiction story of Dinah. She was the only daughter of Jacob and Rachel from the Old Testament part of the Bible. Her brother, Joseph eventually became a seer for the Egyptian pharaoh (his story was made into Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat). She was taken away along with her Egyptian mother in-law and went to live in Egypt after her husband was murdered by some of her other brothers. The author was talking about the Egyptian linen being woven so fine as to be almost sheer. Are there any extant examples of linen that are like that? I know fibers don't last as long as other materials.
Their hair is likely curly/coily or has a lot of volume already considering the area. Also they could have worn wigs under it as well.
This series is so amazing and helpful! Thank you so much!
The mystery is what happened to the big golden hats and helmets that we see on the wall carvings?
Fascinating! Thank you for posting!
You look amazing with all the looks!
Greetings! I will be attending my very first SCA event in August 2023. Pennsic Wars. Second week Aug 4th -13th 2023. The friend I will be going with is a long time member and has an established Persona. I am still working on mine. Being a crafty dancer [ belly dance] I am focusing in on Egypt. Thank you for this video! Very helpful! However I was trying to find a the pdf pattern on your website and couldn't find it? Should I just sign up on your website, or send you an email ? Please let me know Yes this is a duplicate comment
This was a greatly informative video. Thanks a bunch
I’d love to see you attempt some of the other crowns, like the cap crown, that would have been worse by women. I think felt, reed frames, or horsehair are all plausible construction materials for them
I would also want to play with starch, on these.
What is the size if the rectangular
Was leather widely used during this era?
Appearently ancien Egyptians had an elongated skullshape, similar to that of some african populations, which allowed them to do those kinds of knots solidely on a shaved head. Those who decided to let their hair grow would have a variety of hair textures, probably coily to soft curls. The phenotypes showed by these Egyptian populations were a mixture of what we would consider an East African look and a Sephardic jew look.
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