MOTHERSHIP zero edition vs. MOTHERSHIP 1st edition | TKtv

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  • Sean and Alan answer do a deep dive into the differences between the original MOTHERSHIP (0 edition) and the newest version of MOTHERSHIP (1st edition... currently on Kickstarter).
    Our Kickstarter is currently Live! Back it here:
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    Music Attribution:
    "Set Adrift" by Daniel Birch (Mothership Theme)
    "Landing" by Godmode
    "Traversing" by Godmode
    "Trudging Along" by Godmode
    Intro (0:00)
    Pre-Kickstarter Feelings (0:40)
    Why Call it 1st Edition? (1:35)
    Changes to Armor and Combat (6:57)
    Monsters, Health, and Damage (10:31)
    Panic! (14:55)
    Combat Ranges (20:08)
    Character Sheet (20:42)
    Closing Thoughts (21:24)
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  • @pkchar
    @pkchar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I want a mothership soundboard with weapon and ship sounds, and most importantly the mothership and tktv themes and variations!

  • @solomonkim
    @solomonkim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I want a flavor table for when I dip my finger into hostile amorphous ooze creatures and then taste it.

    • @HeadHunterSix
      @HeadHunterSix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Chicken. Always tastes like chicken.

  • @johnsmith3085
    @johnsmith3085 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just discovered this game and company. You guys’ website alone is worth the price of admission. The amount of free content on there, support, accessibility…man, you really knocked it out of the park. Purchasing this boxed set in the morning for sure. Please keep up the good work.

  • @IndieAuthorX
    @IndieAuthorX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I just want to modify things so that I can make a story line that goes along with the Tarkovsky aesthetic of Stalker, Solaris, and Andrei Rublev (Space monk tiem). Not toning down the violence, but emphasizing the psychology and the human element of these kinds of stories. Really happy to be a backer of this Kickstarter! Read the zero edition rules and think the 1.0 will be even better for what I am thinking of crafting!

    • @martinp.9697
      @martinp.9697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I never realised how well this system might go with this. Love the idea!

    • @SrTNick1
      @SrTNick1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're still doing this, there's an official STALKER ttrpg that's fairly famous. It's a bit weird since it's diceless, but it's honestly just fun to read since it has little stories from The Zone and setting information not expanded on much in Roadside Picnic.

  • @noahs97
    @noahs97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Really hoping the wardens screen has all of these wonderful tables on the back 🤞

  • @beakerkell
    @beakerkell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My first dive into Tabletop rpgs and this seems like such a good choice for me. Really excited for this!

    • @IndieAuthorX
      @IndieAuthorX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same, I have been peaking into it for a while, looking for an IP that really stood out to me.

    • @tuesdayknightgames
      @tuesdayknightgames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Be sure to let us know how it goes or if you have any questions.

    • @beakerkell
      @beakerkell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tuesdayknightgames Definitely! We'll try and get some games started once the digital versions are ready. Good luck with everything!

  • @stephenmercerProductions
    @stephenmercerProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That panic system sounds excellent, just neat and perfect.

  • @austintanner5688
    @austintanner5688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "book of 100 interesting encounters" please, something to drag and drop into place or adapt to a situation. pleasseeeeee

  • @Hogwa5hGaming
    @Hogwa5hGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hopefully they are keeping the miliary training/ammo rule. That made it so different and terrifying if you were in a violent encounter and you only had one shot before you had to reload your smg

  • @RoughneckMendez
    @RoughneckMendez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can’t wait to order this new edition! I just ordered the OG version, but this 1st Edition just looks amazing!

  • @clknight2008
    @clknight2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So once the armor is breached it’s completely useless? Wouldn’t it be more fun if every time you got hit the “armor” you have lost an armor point until it was completely destroyed?

    • @Daniel-Strain
      @Daniel-Strain หลายเดือนก่อน

      They list that as an optional rule. That's how I would play it too.

  • @jts8053
    @jts8053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Props for the WFRP 2e shout out. :-)

    • @professorpsych
      @professorpsych 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s the system I’ve played the most BY FAR before Mothership.

  • @SrTNick1
    @SrTNick1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know, if I preorder the Mothership Deluxe Edition do I get the pdf's immediately for things already out like Dead Planet?

  • @kaosdevice
    @kaosdevice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sean REALLY likes the phrase 'edge case'.

  • @NomeDeArte
    @NomeDeArte ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally, my first Mothership rule book was screenshots from this video. So OSR.

  • @collabswithoutpermission
    @collabswithoutpermission 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now that you mention it, after celebrating the launch by streaming Outwars I'm tempted to write my OWN rules for jetpacks!

  • @MartyBucholz
    @MartyBucholz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will there be tools for converting from 0 edition available for purchase or download.

  • @jlb7289
    @jlb7289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t see anything in the rule book about sensors on starships…will that be added to 1e?

  • @ohnoitisnt666
    @ohnoitisnt666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video guys! - may I ask what headset Sean is using?

    • @tuesdayknightgames
      @tuesdayknightgames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's some fancy schmancy expensive one. Alan asked the same question but quickly learned it was out of his price range.

  • @bluecalix
    @bluecalix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm all in on Mothership! Backed the kickstarter and had previously bought a few items on Roll20. Will the Roll20 items be updated to 1st edition?

    • @professorpsych
      @professorpsych 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, Roll20 will be updated. The question is when. Answer: We don’t know but it’s on our to-do’s for sure.

    • @bluecalix
      @bluecalix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@professorpsych Thanks! Congrats on the Kickstarter

  • @lazytitan4221
    @lazytitan4221 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are the rules available on Drivethru rpg the same version as in this updated version?
    If not, when will the drivethrurpg options be updated or purchasable?

    • @tuesdayknightgames
      @tuesdayknightgames  ปีที่แล้ว

      Everything labeled 1st edition (1E) is definitely updated. If you can't find 1E in the description, its 0 edition.

  • @silence3178
    @silence3178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So when exactly would that pdf of the new rules come out ? After the entire Kickstarter?

    • @professorpsych
      @professorpsych 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes. After the Kickstarter. I’d love for you to have it as soon as possible.

  • @sopek1996
    @sopek1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    will the BOX set be released in other languages? example in polish by Black Monk Games and if yes when ? btw great kickstarter

  • @MtnCactus
    @MtnCactus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do monsters still make a combat opposed roll on defense? Or are they moving to the new armor system as well and they'll only use their combat stat on offense?

    • @Daniel-Strain
      @Daniel-Strain หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oddly, only on offense. They seemed to have eliminated opposed rolls of ANY kind, and I can't get my head around an opponent's abilities having NO bearing on your success or failure. There must be some easy solution to this.

  • @nicholasbeer8689
    @nicholasbeer8689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the background music? Especially at 6 min mark?

    • @professorpsych
      @professorpsych 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for reminding me. Tonight I will add attribution to the description.

  • @DFranco83
    @DFranco83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just really learned and interested in running this. Is the new edition going to be on roll20?

    • @tuesdayknightgames
      @tuesdayknightgames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We certainly hope so. It is likely only a matter of "when" more than "if."

    • @LordMaboy
      @LordMaboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tuesdayknightgames What about Foundry VTT?

  • @blamp666
    @blamp666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, but still have a question that you might help, a creature has in its stats "hits: 6 (55)" this means it has to be hit 6 times before being killed, and it has 55 points oh health? Thanks.

    • @renardTrickster
      @renardTrickster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Think of it like this. Each "Hit" is a health bar, and the number in the parenthesis is the size of the health bar. So if you deal less than 55 damage, it still has 6 hits, but once you deal 55 damage, it's down to 5 Hits. You need to get rid of all of its hits to kill it. Additionally, if the thing runs away and heals up, it recovers damage, but not Hits.
      Additionally, if a stat block reads "Hits: 3", then you just need to hit it three times and it dies, with no regard for damage. Which does unfortunately mean that for a creature with Hits but no Health, a crowbar is just as effective as a grenade. I hope this helped.

    • @blamp666
      @blamp666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@renardTrickster thanks very much. I didn't find this rule anywhere, but from what I gathered is because I have the zero edition and those rules are on the first edition that didn't come out yet... how did you find out this? Thanks.

    • @renardTrickster
      @renardTrickster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blamp666 Actually, these rules did exist in 0e. If you have access to A Pound of Flesh or Dead Planet or such, enemy stat blocks will have this notation. But it's true that they weren't explained in the player's guide IIRC. As for where I found out, I think it might have been a post from the official Mothership subreddit where someone asked this same question? Which in turn was probably answered in the Mothership discord if I had to guess.

  • @santiagoparera5531
    @santiagoparera5531 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually like double fails. I usually just tell them "bad things happen to the both of you..." and let them say what could go wrong.
    Usually its a mexican standoff when you get shot and shot back in retaliation, or the fire barrage does actually hit but the enemy gets to close the distance anyway.
    Also, depending on where youre fighting, things will be exploding and computers start shortcircuiting, lights turn off, the amount of noise from the struggles get the attention of more dangerous creatures lurking in the darkness, start grappling monsters and setting things on fire.

  • @rdmsh
    @rdmsh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for making the change around ptsd terminology etc

  • @phantomspcmn
    @phantomspcmn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    woohoo!

  • @Daniel-Strain
    @Daniel-Strain หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the simplicity of just making a combat roll to attack. But I can't get past the notion that WHAT you are attacking has no bearing on how hard it is to succeed. I also can't imagine an rpg can get by without a contest roll system even existing.

  • @petegiant
    @petegiant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spelling error on critical wounds table on entry gunshot 5.

  • @colbyhunter4622
    @colbyhunter4622 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where can i buy 1st edition? i cant find it anywhere. I see a sold out mothership player survival guide on nobleknight games but i dont know if it is 1st edition.

    • @jamesbogart3334
      @jamesbogart3334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They sent them out for backers, pretty sure it goes on general sale in ~1 month.

    • @colbyhunter4622
      @colbyhunter4622 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamesbogart3334 AWESOME! Thank you very much. Do you know where they will be sold?

    • @jamesbogart3334
      @jamesbogart3334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@colbyhunter4622 Tuesday night games website is the best place I know! Should be first result for “mothership 1e” on google, you can get notified when they are in stock again.

  • @ShadyDaisy
    @ShadyDaisy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I applaud your decision to make the Panic conditions less clinical, especially for the reasons given. I think it would be fitting to rename "Heart Attack" to something else as well.

  • @neilskufis139
    @neilskufis139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is genius.

  • @PichulRixth
    @PichulRixth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bleep bloop

  • @danpiligrin
    @danpiligrin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sean, if possible, please note that androids should NOT scare ONLY FRIENDLY players.
    Thanks for the clarifications, after them I liked the fact that you added d20.
    I also hope that you will find time to agree on the translation of the game into Russian. THANKS! SPASIBO! ))

    • @tuesdayknightgames
      @tuesdayknightgames  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great note. Definitely passing it up the chain.

  • @Deguello23
    @Deguello23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amen to the minigame aspect of game design. th-cam.com/video/R_k0iTCChBk/w-d-xo.html That's an easy trap to fall into.

  • @0bsolet
    @0bsolet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same small zine format guys? It's hard to read... I am hoping for a bigger page size...

  • @adammoffat6797
    @adammoffat6797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SOOO excited for this, cant wait for the pdf! DR system for armour looks lovely and a player in my game had a minor freak out last session over the panic rules in EXACTLY the way you guys described lol. Amazing work, true genius

  • @clknight2008
    @clknight2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also about tactics. You’re creating a SYSTEM. While it’s great to be streamlined and leave things open to dm fiat the truth is that most dms won’t make up rules on the fly and would rather stick to printed material. The dms and groups that want to change rules DONT NEED YOUR PRINTED APPROVAL. Everyone else wants rules.

    • @starbournehero771
      @starbournehero771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If a GM isn't making rulings, than you don't need the GM, just a computer. The ability to make rulings adapted to the situation is CORE to the running of TTRPGs... the GM is what makes the experience function the way it does. Also, by telling the GM to use their judgement to resolve actions, and to engage in conversation about how skills may apply, then you are ensuring that the rules as written lead to a GM playing by make rulings. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

  • @remigarreau870
    @remigarreau870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I must chime in as the obligatory 4e defender! It has my vote for the strongest edition of the game, with a really brilliant approach to design, worldbuilding, and usability.

    • @professorpsych
      @professorpsych 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve played a lot of 4th Ed. Not my favorite edition, but I agree that it has its place and deserves respect.

  • @HeadHunterSix
    @HeadHunterSix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I understand the desire to be more considerate of players (and I'm saying this as someone with a condition myself), I simply don't understand why people who might be triggered by something would even play games like this in the first place. I've seen the safety tools for similar games and it would seem irresponsible for people with those particular sensitivities to even expose themselves to such content - or, by regulating or eliminatiing that content in the game, it becomes something completely different. Either way, not the optimal choice.