My go-to card of this type is Library of Leng. Not only does it give you no maximum hand size, whenever you're forced to discard, you can choose whether to put it on top of your library or in your graveyard, and if the discard is random, you may look at it before choosing where to discard it.
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Not that surprised Thought Vessel and Decanter of Endless Water didn't make it, with only Legacy/Vintage/Pauper legality. But Reliquary Tower is legal in Modern, Historic, and Pioneer. And used to be legal in Standard. I'm surprised it didn't make it on...
I played Jin-Gitaxias in my Seance deck. The card was especially powerful in Magic Online because players rarely put a stop at the end of the opponent's second main phase, so if you cast or reanimate it in the second main phase, then pass, the game goes to the end step, and you get your seven cards, even if your opponent had instant speed removal.
People used that same trick with Sheoldred on Arena. Most people didn't put a stop on their upkeep and if they were tapped out, they would take 2 on the draw step before they could put a stop on their upkeep. Thank goodness WotC finally added an auto stop when a Sheoldred is on the field.
@@CanadianBaconPwnage I lost to that BS in one game that I could have tapped my One Ring to heal back up with Sheoldred's ability - but it didn't let me respond to the One Ring damage trigger, just killed me instead.
Those types of cards seem to be more at home in the interesting Forgetful Fish game, along with Dandan's islandhome ability, which never saw play in mainstream tournaments. Always nice to figure out fun variations of Magic the Gathering to actually use cards that never see play but somehow end up as rares that make certain packs dissatisfying when cracked.
Well there are Painter's Servant, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth, so we could at least get to a Top Four. But more don't come to my mind in the spur of the moment.
Let's see.... Off the top: Painters Servant Blood Moon Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth Wild Mongrel Spreading Seas (At least 5 there) There's a few others that might have gotten one or two tops from their block/standards like: Spiritmonger Grave Betrayal Liliana Deaths Majesty Mycosynth Latice Chainer Dementia Master Possessed Centaur Rise from the Grave Heck, any of the man-lands that become colored creatures are technically color-changing cards.
I've personally used the #2 card a lot in one of my favourite EDH decks, Multani Maro-Sorcerer. Wrenn and Seven works great in the deck. Great enough though to make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"? Maybe.
All blue except my GOAT Wrenn and Seven :] Yea Jund/control builds that synergize with ALL of her abilities are what really push her into bomb status; which is interesting since most of her points came from mono green aggro when Chariot was around, just copying that token.
Isn´t part of the Combo betwen Enter the Infinite and Possibility Storm that you only play Sorcerys as part of an Adventure thus Storm can find only Enter when searching for a Sorcery?
As always on these videos, he gives the card kingdom prices (it even says so right there in the video....so idk why you are going on tcg player pricing) as he is an affiliate and their prices are basically always more expensive than other sources. At time of writing, Seagate is $24.99 on there, so it likely dropped a bit since time of making the video.
@@jonothanthrace1530 That's correct; the errata was necessary because the changes to Magic's turn structure in 1999 combined the discard and cleanup phases into a single step: the cleanup step.
Is there any functional difference between having a card say you have no hand size and a card that makes an emblem that says so? How do different cards that affect hand size interact? Like say you had that creature plus one of those no hand size cards.
Emblems are used like changing the rules of the game; on the other hand effects of permanents can do the same, but can be taken away by some sort of removal.
Emblems stick around whereas the effect leaves when the creature it's on leaves. Of course, cards like Finale don't do either, and that's why emblems are good: They reduce memory issues.
As I understand it, "no maximum hand size" cards basically set the number of your max hand size to infinity. So if you have a Reliquary Tower in play, which granted you no maximum, and then your opponent played Jin-Gitaxias, your hand size would go from infinity to infinity minus seven. In other words, Jin's ability wouldn't really do anything in that circumstance. He doesn't give you "a max hand size of zero," he reduces it by seven, which is different.
any cards with x cost you pair it with cards like unbound flourishing. heartbeat of spring. mana flare. gauntlet of might. im only nameing a few i know plenty more some not mentioned restrict it to forests only. or maybe is green red emchantment that also burns owner of lands tapping them while double lands. but in a deck loaded with x cost spells or abilities also for your deck to scale heavily into mid and late game likely more than the opponent.
For Mordenkainen, the dog gets X/X = to TWICE the number of cards.
My go-to card of this type is Library of Leng. Not only does it give you no maximum hand size, whenever you're forced to discard, you can choose whether to put it on top of your library or in your graveyard, and if the discard is random, you may look at it before choosing where to discard it.
lib of leg
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Hears “no maximum hand size”
Me, a commander player: “THOUGHT VESSEL and RELIQUARY TOWER!”
Urza, LHA makes Spellbook an even better mox sapphire
Neither card has ever been played in 60 card.
Don't forget Decanter of Endless Water!
Not that surprised Thought Vessel and Decanter of Endless Water didn't make it, with only Legacy/Vintage/Pauper legality. But Reliquary Tower is legal in Modern, Historic, and Pioneer. And used to be legal in Standard. I'm surprised it didn't make it on...
@@holotori_senior_admin_teno And what deck remotely wants the effect?
I played Jin-Gitaxias in my Seance deck. The card was especially powerful in Magic Online because players rarely put a stop at the end of the opponent's second main phase, so if you cast or reanimate it in the second main phase, then pass, the game goes to the end step, and you get your seven cards, even if your opponent had instant speed removal.
People used that same trick with Sheoldred on Arena. Most people didn't put a stop on their upkeep and if they were tapped out, they would take 2 on the draw step before they could put a stop on their upkeep. Thank goodness WotC finally added an auto stop when a Sheoldred is on the field.
@@CanadianBaconPwnage I lost to that BS in one game that I could have tapped my One Ring to heal back up with Sheoldred's ability - but it didn't let me respond to the One Ring damage trigger, just killed me instead.
@@Sauvenil I think that's a One Ring problem, although it is weird there isn't an auto stop for The One Ring's trigger.
@@CanadianBaconPwnage Definitely, but it just goes to show they don't notice every trigger opportunity like they should.
A Top Ten that will never happen: "Top Ten cards that change color or land type."
Those types of cards seem to be more at home in the interesting Forgetful Fish game, along with Dandan's islandhome ability, which never saw play in mainstream tournaments. Always nice to figure out fun variations of Magic the Gathering to actually use cards that never see play but somehow end up as rares that make certain packs dissatisfying when cracked.
#1 blood moon, #2 Urbog
After that it might be a challenge....
Well there are Painter's Servant, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth, so we could at least get to a Top Four.
But more don't come to my mind in the spur of the moment.
Spreading Seas is played in every Merfolk deck.
Let's see....
Off the top:
Painters Servant
Blood Moon
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Wild Mongrel
Spreading Seas
(At least 5 there)
There's a few others that might have gotten one or two tops from their block/standards like:
Spiritmonger
Grave Betrayal
Liliana Deaths Majesty
Mycosynth Latice
Chainer Dementia Master
Possessed Centaur
Rise from the Grave
Heck, any of the man-lands that become colored creatures are technically color-changing cards.
top 10 cards that never made appearance in all previous top 10s
I've personally used the #2 card a lot in one of my favourite EDH decks, Multani Maro-Sorcerer. Wrenn and Seven works great in the deck. Great enough though to make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"? Maybe.
No reliquary tower? I'm shocked
Not played in 60 card formats
Get outta here with your commander b.s. lol
Seeing a colored artifact is pretty trippy with Folio
Kind of shocked to hear there was so many cards of this type that existed.
All blue except my GOAT Wrenn and Seven :]
Yea Jund/control builds that synergize with ALL of her abilities are what really push her into bomb status; which is interesting since most of her points came from mono green aggro when Chariot was around, just copying that token.
Isn´t part of the Combo betwen Enter the Infinite and Possibility Storm that you only play Sorcerys as part of an Adventure thus Storm can find only Enter when searching for a Sorcery?
Sea Gate may be what everybody wants: a Land with genuine upside; but that in no way JUSTIFYS it being 30$!
It's likely a typo. The median price is $17 on TCG and the market price is $18. It also hasn't seen a reprint yet.
Seems like the only reasonable reason for something to be expensive lol
You just did.
It's weird to be surprised a card that is useful and never seen a reprint to be expensive. I'm surprised it's not 50
As always on these videos, he gives the card kingdom prices (it even says so right there in the video....so idk why you are going on tcg player pricing) as he is an affiliate and their prices are basically always more expensive than other sources. At time of writing, Seagate is $24.99 on there, so it likely dropped a bit since time of making the video.
I wish Gnat Miser and Locust Miser were here. I love those cards.
I'm astonished that Reliquary Tower isn't in there...
Nope. Not played in 60 card formats
No Reliquary Tower?
Nope, not played in 60 card formats
I remember thinking Spellbook was so flavorful and cool.
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Back in Kamigawa block I played discard n those 2 rats that reduced your opponent’s hand size by 1 and 2. 😂
Crypt Rats.
@@nickhughes8179 No. Crypt Rats isn’t in Kamigawa. Gnat n Locust Misers. Reduced opponent hand size by 1 n 2 respectively.
I literally didn't realize until this year that "skip your discard step" is effectively the same thing as "no maximum hand size".
'You skip your discard step' is stronger though as it can't be later overwritten by things like Cursed Rack.
True, but as far as I can tell all discard step skips got errata'd into no max hand size.
@@jonothanthrace1530 That's correct; the errata was necessary because the changes to Magic's turn structure in 1999 combined the discard and cleanup phases into a single step: the cleanup step.
In a couple months I’d love to see top 10 manlands
no more spooky top 10s? :(
MTG Top 10: Friday the 13th Special! | Magic: the Gathering | Episode 646
There will be a spooky one this week
I assumed Jin-G core Augur would be 1
Is there any functional difference between having a card say you have no hand size and a card that makes an emblem that says so?
How do different cards that affect hand size interact? Like say you had that creature plus one of those no hand size cards.
Emblems are used like changing the rules of the game; on the other hand effects of permanents can do the same, but can be taken away by some sort of removal.
Emblems stick around whereas the effect leaves when the creature it's on leaves. Of course, cards like Finale don't do either, and that's why emblems are good: They reduce memory issues.
As I understand it, "no maximum hand size" cards basically set the number of your max hand size to infinity. So if you have a Reliquary Tower in play, which granted you no maximum, and then your opponent played Jin-Gitaxias, your hand size would go from infinity to infinity minus seven. In other words, Jin's ability wouldn't really do anything in that circumstance. He doesn't give you "a max hand size of zero," he reduces it by seven, which is different.
Nezahal inspired: top 10 elder creatures
Already did it
any cards with x cost you pair it with cards like unbound flourishing. heartbeat of spring. mana flare. gauntlet of might.
im only nameing a few i know plenty more some not mentioned restrict it to forests only. or maybe is green red emchantment that also burns owner of lands tapping them while double lands.
but in a deck loaded with x cost spells or abilities also for your deck to scale heavily into mid and late game likely more than the opponent.
I honestly don't know enough of the cards that do this, so I'm gonna guess Reliquary Tower?
Edit:
Well....I was right about it being a land :D
Like and comment for the algorithm.
Reliquary tower is unplayable in commander, but y'all aren't ready for that conversation
Obligatory Reliquary Tower Comment