Everything in life is a Cost vs Benefits analysis. I moved from Toronto to Vancouver as a young man in 1992. I attended UBC and worked and lived downtown for 20 years spending nights after work in Yaletown restaurants and pubs. In that time the population of the city doubled. Between 30,000 - 70,000 people a year moving here. Now that I'm 52 years old my interests and priorities have changed. If a person has children it's not surprising to move out to the suburbs. I've been in Abbotsford for 3 years now. I don't care about going to the beach anymore, I don't ski anymore, I use to enjoy the crowded streets of Robson and Granville but now I don't. I've been entertaining moving to New Brunswick where I can buy a house on 5 acres for $130,000 (small hobby farm). That's hard to resist. I know families with 3 children who have moved to Edmonton and other places where you can make more money and your dollar goes much further. For young people and/or young couples Vancouver is a great place to live. Without question the best weather in Canada only better in Victoria. But I know people who were born and raised here and now live in Regina and Calgary and they find the winters nicer for them in those cities, stating they don't like the wet damp cold we have in Vancouver. It all boils down to personal preference and cost benefits. My aunt and uncle moved to Aldergrove/Abbotsford from Ontario 4 years after I moved to Vancouver in 1996. They've since retired to Nanaimo on Vancouver Island, which is the retirement capital of Canada. With a lifetime of savings for 70 year olds it's possible. If you're a young professional you can't beat Vancouver for lifestyle.
OMG, sounds like we are twins, i'm 54 and bored by the mountain and beach views for many years. i moved in Vancouver in 2000 and now living in surrey since 2013. i would not move to NS or NB just because a house is 130k I emigrated from western europe and i realize that people over there can afford more maybe double with their 3000euro income than a 6000$ net income made in canada. sorry still life affordability is better in EU including buying a property or rent one .
I was waiting for you to mention the social aspect of living in Vancouver. Lots of people find it tough to form close relationships in Vancouver, and often say that others are judgmental and closed off.
As someone from Toronto, while Vancouver is gorgeous as a city I found it extremely boring aside from nature/outdoorsy activities. I also found it very hard for people to let you in, which I was surprised because I thought Toronto people were bad (grumpy & pushy) but... I got the impression that no one in Van really wants to make connections and people are very suspicious and reserved.
Hi Eli I can confirm what you just said. Vancouver people for the most part are not very friendly. Even quite underhanded and selfish. Been there many years. We moved to Alberta, way more friendly people.
@John Meyer Well ok, let's go with Regina then? Actually, I was joking. I have a friend from Winnipeg and I was having a bit of fun with him. You should relax a little.
I lived in Central Alberta for 22 years of my life, moved to Vancouver and I want to go back to Alberta. I guess the wetness and seasonal depression isn’t for everyone 🤷🏼♀️
@@adriannasadventures9549 As I said, it was a jest. Lived in North West Ontrario growing up and my definition of seasonal depression was having sun bright enough to fry my retinas as it reflected off the snow but not being warm enough to keep my eyelashes from freezing together.
As a Torontonian, I find people in Vancouver to be more unfriendly and cold, I also just find that although it is a beautiful city, there seems to be lack of culture, diversity and nightlife/entertainment. Can’t wait to leave.
@Jess Foran - A lack of diversity? What part of the city did you visit? There are massive populations of people from China, Japan, Thailand, India, the Middle East, etc. They are spread out all throughout the Vancouver area. It's unbelievably diverse. They may not all be concentrated in the downtown area but that's not really just "Vancouver" now is it?
Rob On Refresh Yes but diversity of just Asians doesn’t count. You guys don’t have many other ethnicities and races, it feels very white or brown priviledged. I have been living in Vancouver proper for 8 months and I have barely seen any black people. Barely any carribeans, south americans, There are also no latin people or mixed people.
@@jessforan7810 - Wow...so diversity within the Asian population doesn't count? Fascinating. So you define diversity simply by a person's skin color? I think that's a poor way to define diversity. Would it surprise you to know that many people from South America have lighter-colored skin - mostly because of their European heritage? According to the latest census numbers I can find, the "Black" population in Toronto (the metropolitan area being more than twice the size of Vancouver) is around 8% while it is 1% in Vancouver. That's not a massive difference. I think it's more a function of geography than some kind of immigration policy conspiracy. Asia is simply closer to BC. Seattle's demographics are very similar to Vancouver and if I had to wager a guess, New York is probably closer to Toronto from a demographics perspective. It's been that way for decades so shouldn't have been that much of a surprise when you made the move to Vancouver?
So fascinating. It seems like a lot of these issues are affecting cities in both Canada and the US. I’m about to post my own video with this same theme but about Boulder, Colorado. Really interesting to hear about similar problems in other cities!
Almost all western cities are run by liberal politicians. They all have big government and high taxes. Read the book Atlas Shrugged and you will understand.
As someone from LA looking to move to Vancouver they definitely do share some similarities. The high cost of living, homeless issue, and traffic, I mean especially LA being notorious for its traffic. Unfortunately seeing 1 hour of traffic has become normalized for me. Surprisingly a lot of people I talk to, including myself, want to move out of LA because of the weather as well. While having year round sunshine is nice, it gets pretty cumbersome when it consistently hits 30 degrees or more even during the "winter." It would be nice to see some real seasons. Solid videos btw!
I'd like to add that people will constantly tell me not to move to Vancouver because of the cons you listed, as well the claim that social life is tough there, but honestly I'm used to those things in LA so they're really nothing bad relative to my experience right now.
I had seasonal depression and severe migraines all 7 years I lived in Victoria. Sometimes my migraines lasted up to 3 days. Vancouver is gloomy all winter as well. Moved to GTA and had only light headaches a few times. So relieved that I don't have a lingering headache everyday of the winter anymore, no migraines so far. There are a lot of sunny days here.
Oh so thats why my cousin in Vancouver took a photo and he wrote ‘in between’. Note/ in every photo he does that. Now I know the people of Vancouver are always ( in between) lol. Thats why there is nothing to do🤣.
As someone who just moved to Van from Toronto: -The homelessness in certain areas is on a scale I've never seen in the entire world, (maybe skid row in LA?). The east side of Vancouver is an example to the world of what policies to never follow in terms of homelessness, drugs and mental health. -The mountains, hikes and views are even more awesome than you would imagine. -Summers are super sunny. -The ocean is astonishingly overrated, the water is brown at all the major beaches, and just never clear. Some beaches are a lot of fun though because good crowds (wreck beach). -Population is much less diverse than it thinks it is. 90% of people are either white or asian. Almost nobody jaywalks and people really respect rules. -Cheaper than Toronto now with Covid, very easy to find a room downtown around 1k/month.
@@aleeshaidrees34 after nearly a year, I'd say it's a tie. Toronto offers better city life and Vancouver offers better nature. Don't go to Vancouver thinking it's gonna be the LA of Canada. It's more like the Seattle of Canada.
I'm an islander. I live in a temperate rainforest. I'm going to expect it to rain. The people who complain about winter weather around here never actually make it outside to see the forests in the winter. They're usually depressed indoor smartphone addicts.
Same in Hawaii, brah! $2000 a month rent, $12-14/ hr wages and trying to live on tips. Total bullshit and locals born and raised on the Islands can’t afford to buy a house. Tourism and corporate greed have created this. But the weather, food, people and ocean are awesome!
@@FoxExcess ofc, that’s what happens when you’re situated right beside the ocean. Personally, I prefer Toronto and Montreal weather to Vancouver’s but almost everyone I know will say that Vancouver’s is better. I can’t stand humidity
If you have not been here recently it is really hard to explain what a dystopian nightmare Downtown Vancouver has become. It's not just a few blocks either. It looks exactly like the first two RoboCop movies with crime , garbage, rats , people shooting up ,tents on every sidewalk. Then on the same street there will be a Ferrari parked.
spend 15 years in northern Canada with -20 + winters! ill take the rain and gloom +5 to 16 all winter. and as a plus there is always something to do that doesn't take hours to get to.
Yeah the weather is number one for me. I’ve lived here for almost 20 years and I am getting more and more affected by the rain, the grey and the often disappointingly gloomy summers. I pretty much look forward all year to the chance that we may get nice weather in July and August
We've been here for 6 months and I already feel like that. I have seen a lot of other places in BC that I'd love to live though. Hope, Kelowna, Merritt, and other places north of here are more to my liking, .. unfortunately my wife and step son think Vancouver is just great.
It used to be such a cool, friendly city. Real shame it’s changed so much. Portland is the same. Now it’s full of trustafarians, yuppies and L.A. assholes that moved up there. Still some good folk, like in Vancouver but the dynamic has changed massively!
You clearly haven't been to Montreal or Toronto. I've lived in both and just recently moved to Vancouver and it is by far friendlier. As for boring...that's subjective.
Please come stay in Montreal, the warm weather here at -30 and the nice discrimination will make you cherish every ounce of Vancouver. Moving there and never look back. A life changing experience. Toronto is not my thing. Too many people and less green space. You want more friendly place move to Quebec city. I had a horrific experience visiting that city.
I've lived in North Vancouver for almost 6 years and I love it. I fully identify with all of the negatives and reasons people leave but I agree that I'd rather have wet than cold and I just love the mountains and ocean. I will add that the other reason for the traffic issues is that there are no highways in Vancouver just around the outskirts because of some strong neighbourhood advocacy many years ago.
It's literally been raining for 8 months straight now. Not a single day of full sunshine. This is making me suicidal, June feels exactly like January. Sorry, the constant clouds and rain can go fuck itself. Vancouver is a boring wet rag of a city.
Only thing I disagree is months without sun, I’m a landscaper so I can tell you with certainty that it very rarely rains all day every day. There is always breaks in the rain and sun pops out constantly. Again, I’m actually out there so I know. And I’m born and raised here so again, I know. Playing tennis outside in January doesn’t happen anywhere else in Canada so it’s a compromise for sure, we have some gorgeous days in the winter that feel like spring. Anyone else remember the Olympics in February 2010? It was 12 degrees some of those days.
Sorry I call bs, the sun does not “pop out”constantly, the breaks in rain just means it’s still cloudy but not rainy. Olympics was 10 years ago honey and that was an El Niño year (rare). The sun pops out constantly in winter , yeah you’re not for real. Maybe once spring comes round but one thing that is most definitely not popping out in winter here constantly is sun. You lie. Where did you grow up, Tsawassen?? That’s the sunniest part but still, not that sunny. It most definitely is months without sun, even if it’s not raining all day. I’m going to check back with you in a few months , it’s end of October now we’ll see how the season pans out the next few months and who’s right😉 Have fun landscaping in damp Vancouver this winter hey at least there’s no snow! The reality is, November to February it’s overcast with showers for days on end, then there might a break with some sun and cloud for a day or two but not more, then it’s back to grey. If the sun pops out it’s a rare thing.
I think a common growing trend is people will choose to live in Vancouver, but they will work a rotational shift somewhere remote such as FSJ. The salaries offered for up north jobs in BC are too high to ignore.
VeeTravels would you expand on this plz? Do you mean there are places in North BC that offer better salaries compared to Vancouver? If yes, which areas?
I think it’s also important to mentioned that a big part of the increasing homelessness problem is that other provinces are shipping their homeless population to Vancouver , through one way bus tickets, because the weather is more mild in Vancouver , giving them a better chance to survive... people on the streets from places like Nova Scotia and even Quebec..
Thanks so much for these videos, I am still dying to move to Vancouver anyways!! The negatives in my country are significantly worse despite the amazing weather and cheaper cost of living.
I love Vancouver for it's Massive Bio Mass surrounding the city. The year round ice hockey facilities, the year round soccer. The parks and cycling. The ski hills right in the city. My wife and I raised our son in the city. Grandview/commercial drive. We had our little guy in capoeira classes, animation classes, hockey, futebol. It was a great city to raise children and be an active family involved in Arts and culture. Unfortunately, the city became flooded with foreign real estate speculators and criminal drug gangs who launder their profits from fentanyl into Vancouver housing, numbered accounts, luxury cars, etc..Corrupt politicians, the economy of poverty...so much festering dishonesty and greed seethes through the under current of what once was a charming west coast temperate rainforest city. The artists and musicians and writers and bohemians and backpackers and mountaineers have all left. The city worships the KARDASHIANS now.
Have been here for a month to see how it will pan out. Seriously contemplating about moving back to Ontario, but the natural beauty is sucking me in. Thank you, though, for reminding me about the winter weather when I won't see those northern mountains in the rain.
@Frank Lemarin I agree, they're night and day. Montréal's amazing and Vancouver's a hell hole, but I'd rather live in Vancouver than some American toilet.
I am born and raised in Vancouver - third generation here in the Lower Mainland and we recently made the huge decision to sell our home and buy in the Okanagan. The market is so hot right now, and as much as I love my city we are ready for a slower pace of life and to raise our family in a smaller place.
I live in Edmonton, but lived in Vancouver back in 1999. Even at that time it was expensive and the employment situation was bad too. I was however, one of the lucky ones as I lived in Vancouver during the 60's, 70's, 80's, and most of the 90's. The lucky times were the 60's and 70's, as back then, Vancouver was an awesome city. Gastown was really cool and it was clean and safe to walk East Hastings. Then came Expo 86, and after that, the city took a huge slide into what it is now. Before I left I use to say to others, "what good is milder weather and pretty mountains, when you go hungry and can never enjoy them?" I left for Calgary and got a job and an affordable place to live in one day!!! Yes, it's not as mild of weather, but it just toughens you up and now it's been so long, I don't even think about it. I now own a great place in Edmonton, I have a full belly, my bills are paid, and the taxes are low. Vancouver is a very pretty city, (outside of East Hastings), but with what I have now, I would visit but never move back. Just one persons story to consider. All it takes is courage to make the move!
The rain is so nice tho. It cleans the air and makes the air quality better as a result. And sometimes walking in the rain makes me feel happy. When it rains really hard sometime me and my cousin will stand outside the house until we are soaked and are ready to go back in the house. It's fun
I have lived in Vancouver, Toronto, Calgary, Ottawa and Gatineau (Quebec), Vancouver still has much more to offer than alot of other cities. Still one of my favorite cities. I'll take Vancouver over most cities anyday.
I suffer from SAD so Vancouver would not be ideal for me. I do have a brother in Victoria and he absolutely loves BC. He is from Nanaimo and lived in Ontario for a bit but did not enjoy it at all. I myself grew up in Newfoundland so I know what it means to have no sun for weeks at a time!! Where I live now we get lots of sun and have gorgeous hot summers so that works very well for me!!! Thank you for sharing this information with us!!!
@@kevinjohnduerme8963imagine all the Asians pull out now Vancouver will look like Alaska or some village of Romania. The money money 💰💰. They built city with 💰💰💰💰. Go to Alberta pick a random small city now enjoy your 100% canadian atmosphere, small town only white people with nothing to do.
I been in surrey for 15 yrs excellent East Indian food! traffic not bad rents range from 800 to 2500 depending on condition of the place and how many bedrooms. The entertainment and night life is super boring! There is lots of malls and parks, busses run well skytrain runs often to Vancouver but only runs till 1am . Mostly south Asian community living in surrey they are very cliquee so if your not south Asian it can be lonely.Also there is a lot of homeless and south Asian gangs but unless you are involved you should be safe . Just don’t go out alone late at night.
It depends on the persons options. I'm from EU, Spain I was in Vancouver and I prefer it here in Spain and any other EU country. If you are in Canada or North America then I would either choose that city or Toronto
@@stratulatus Mate I think you misunderstood my comment maybe because I didn't use the comas. I meant I prefer Spain and any other EU country than Vancouver as I believe Spain has much more to offer to me. Spanish people can make it easy to Canada but I dont like it it's too depressing, everything is too far away especially if I want to go back to Spain and the gangs problems that Vancouver has like in Surrey. Even if you give me a house in Richmond I won't move there. I love Spain and EU
@@stratulatus where I came from we don't have that North American culture of showing off in fact if you do that all will befriend you. 98% doesn't like America
@@stratulatus Apologies I don't know what CDN stands for but if you can move out to EU I promise you that you'll be welcomed. It's not perfect but it's more genuine than NA
Hey Adam, is the cost of property this high all over BC. I'd appreciate it if you could make some videos on other towns in BC where buying or renting a house would be more affordable compared to Vancouver.
I have spent 14yrs in Vancouver as a immigrant. because of same reasons below. I am totally sick of everything of Vancouver. I gonna leave Vancouver soon forever...Thanks for your explain...
Calgary is better! Locals are friendlier, there aren't any crazy traffic lanes, no homelessness, no pst tax, quality of living is good. A rented apartment costs approximately $2500 and higher.
For the evil people telling him to go back where he came from…. GO KICK A WALL BAREFOOT! This man is taking his valuable time out to provide crucial information for those who want to live in Vancouver. And he’s doing it well by weighing the pros and cons on what people want to know. And all you’re doing is proving why social media and platforms are toxic. Because of people like you! Thanks for your videos bro! Keep them coming 👍
Why are people leaving Vancouver ? Cost of rent. Not just Vancouver but Metro Vancouver rent as a whole is ridiculous. I live in the Suburbs and the rent for a basement suite is still $1400+ a month.
I dont think the weather there is that bad, its about the same rainwise as here in Ireland, but you know you'll have a good summer, here you might just have a few weeks to a month of sun and the rest of the time its grey.
Please continue saying the truth. This way u will increase your subscribers . There are too many TH-camrs who only talk about the good things. I am sharing these type of videos to everyone I can.
I agree with 100% of what you said. I lived in Van for about two years struggling with almost everything you mentioned, but I also had superb moments I will never forget. Today, after a couple of years that I had left the city, I think if the person wants to live there they need a good plan + focus + a considerable amount of money + a bit of luck. BTW, I was trying to find a video to convince me not to love Vancouver anymore... That was a big fail. hahaha Thanks for the awesome content. PS: You forgot to mention how it's hard making friends in Van. That's the worst one in my opinion.
Weather? Are you high? Toronto ... snows all the time, the reason people are here is because of the weather. Moving south? Sure, but we have the best weather in Canada.
Correction. There may be "some" snow in Toronto anytime from the middle of November till the middle of April but it's not that much. We moved from Guelph (about an hour west of Toronto) to Vancouver in the late spring of this year. There are a great many people that try Vancouver and then go back to where they came from because they couldn't handle the depressing weather here. At least with the snow and cold for 5 month the other side of the Rockies there's sunshine most days, and that has a tendency to make people feel a lot better. The downside I see to southern Ontario is the extreme heat and humidity during summer months.
@@timsretirementjourney8323 being from here or living here for a long time, u get used to it. U even come to love it in a way, or at least embrace it. It's what makes it so green and full of huge trees and great rivers and lakes. People adapt. Those that can't or refuse to accept it leave.
@@nucks2233 I can't disagree with what you say. When a person either grows up in a certain place or lives there a long time they get acclimatized and it feels normal. My wife and step son are from the Philippines, and after him coming here to go to UBC he decided to stay here, ... and of course his mom wanted us to follow. They are used to rain, smog and heat, and not that fond of snow, so as with most Asians Vancouver seems like a more comfortable fit for them. As for me although there are some things I do like about Vancouver it wouldn't make my top 100 places in Canada I'd prefer to live. P.S. the Canucks did well last season and that was great to see. They're going to have a very good team going forward.
@@timsretirementjourney8323 I was born and raised in Toronto, (23 years). I've lived in Vancouver for 28 years now. Sunshine average hours per year: Toronto: 2066, Vancouver: 1938, Victoria: 2109, Winnipeg: 2353. I would argue it's more in peoples heads as the hours of sunshine isn't that great otherwise we should all move to Winnipeg. I don't want to be in Ontario for the cold winters or the summers for the humidity. It's a personal choice. I moved to Vancouver because of the weather.
Even tho, that city is known the best weather in Canada lol. The wages is not a problem compared with other's provinces taxes, it fits really well for me. Hope 1day get to there. Greetings from 🇨🇴
There are also people coming back to Vancouver from the suburbs. “While 2020 and 2021 are very similar, in each year only 0.5% of the clients we packed moved from the suburbs to Vancouver, in 2022, this number increased to 2%.”
Very nice and informative video. I think I will stay in Toronto for the next few years (even though I’m not even old enough to move out) but I like it here. Vancouver though seems like a beautiful place and I’d love to visit it someday.
Also, the job market isn't the best. Recently there was a career fair held from 10-2. I decided to show up at 12 : 40 along with a few other people. The security guard informed us that the job fair was finished! Tip: I guess show up right on the dot.
The cost of living is eventually going to crash the housing market because the number of homeless people is going to section off larger and larger portions of the city and ruin property values, as a 25 year old with a 40-45k salary moving out of my families house is not in the books if I want to live an enjoyable life. It is definitely bad when the market is pricing out future generations of locals, people are often too busy working to pay living expenses to make time for leisure activities that help in developing communities and giving people reasons to stay when they can have much better lives in other regions of Canada or the world. Not only the cost of living but also the extortionate ICBC insurance rates, that require you to pay the cost of a decent used car every 2 years on a clean driving record because without it you can't get a license plate for your vehicle.
it’s all about budgeting and spending within your limit (not getting a new iPhone every year or buying an expensive car to impress your friends etc.) I was able to buy an apartment 2yrs after college in the early 2000s by being careful with my spending and investing my savings. It might be harder now because real estate prices have gone up but with historic low interest rates, it’s much easier to service debt.
Homelessness Traffic High Cost and sometimes weather (tons of snow in east side of North America). All these are reasons to stay away from most North American Big Cities.
Well there are a lot of larger North American cities without a lot of unsheltered homeless people. Calgary, Montreal and Quebec City, or Miami, Las Vegas, Boston and New York. When I say New York people think I’m lying. But by 2019, New York only had less than 3500 unsheltered homeless people. That means people living on the streets. That’s less than most major cities in the world, like Berlin, Paris, London, Amsterdam, Stockholm, Rome and etc. New York has a very extensive homeless housing program, as well as a robust rehabilitation system for substance abusers. Int total there are about 60.000 people without their own homes, but 56.500 of those have permanent shelter and do not live outside.
Hmm, just get a remote job and move to Surrey, Langley or Coquitlam. I moved to Langley earlier this year and it’s much better. People are a bit different and not as ‘city’, but it’s not bad.
On rushhour, skytrain can be very busy too, closed to other big european and asian big towns. Hopefully there is a very high frequency of trains. On the other side, when you talk about Van, do you talk about Vancouver City, or Metrovancouver ? Metrovancouver might be easier to live, dispite of the weather. There is less homelessness, it's less expensive.
Honestly Vancouver being the only city I’ve lived in isn’t bad, it’s just the weather I don’t like. The homelessness is just mostly in downtown east side which no one goes to. Other than that I am pretty happy where I live. :)
Just found your channel! Subscribed! Might get a base transfer from Montreal (I’m a flight attendant, so I’m looking for cheapest rent possible + close to airport (no car)) So I’ll be studying your vids! Hope you keep us informed! Thanks dude!
Rain, cold, windy, no sun for 30 days? Welcome to Hamburg, Germany 😛 8 months of winter, maybe 4 months of summer. Rain, rain, rain. And crazy, insane ice cold wind through the winter. But you find 1 bedroom apartments for under 800€ a month and salaries range between 35.000 - 100.000€ in general. We have high taxes (up to 45%) but health care is already included. The more I learn about Canada, the more I realize there are many similarities to Germany.
Calgary is the best city to move to right now despite Alberta's setbacks. sadly, I foresee Calgary heading the same direction as Vancouver and Toronto in the next decade.
This week I'll be deciding if I'll move to VA from MTL. Most of the negatives you mention I can already see in a different shade here in MTL, like the "winter darkness" and such. Which areas are your favourite to live in?
We had a business in Vancouver. There are many reasons to leave Vancouver. If you run a business where you need to lease space and have employees Vancouver is getting worse every year. 3000sqft is $10k property tax. A "standard" house worth $2million (nothing fancy) will likely set you back $10k property tax also. That's like renting ($800+ a month flushed down the toilet). Commuting through downtown (carpool) was a nightmare. Constant construction on most city blocks, every turn more construction. Plus they'd close 2 of 4 lanes on Nelson in morning rush hour... what?? There's nobody with a common sense brain left in city hall. You can't go to Stanley Park or most major recreational places on a weekend because there are 10x as many people there. Parking is crazy expensive. Sure, the beaches are beautiful and ocean is nice and the mountains look pretty. But it's lipstick on a pig. Cost of doing business, cost of running a business, cost of sitting stuck in traffic, cost of having employees sit on a bus on Georgia street for 25mins because some dolt decided to change the bus lane during morning rush hours.... the craziness just doesn't stop. Now, lets add on the recent ideas of making downtown and east to Clark St then south to Broadway a toll zone!! How about the recent announcement that ALL residential parking in the city would soon require paid permits or pay to park. What about the idea of removing at least 2 lanes on the Granville bridge for bike lanes. What?? Vancouver has the highest taxes in the province yet the city complains they are broke. What the hell are they doing with the money?? Oh wait the mayor just renovated one floor at city hall for what $700k while he asked the province for money as they are broke?? Something isn't quite right here. As a business owner, relocating anywhere about an hour out of Vancouver (or further) just makes sense. Three other business owners I know are moving their businesses out of Vancouver. Another one is so fed up with the red tape and crazy permit fees for renovating his warehouse space he's ready to pull the plug. Instead of $140 business license fee, why not move to a community where there is no business license required.... all these things add up. I've lived in Vancouver for decades and I've seen the slow decline. As more businesses move out what is the city's tax base going to be? Jumping ship was the best move ever. Before this I watched the "everyone is leaving California" videos.... it's all the same.... super high cost of living where eventually it negates the positive aspects.
High cost of living in Vancouver, but you can always make more money. One suggestion is gaming, but if you are going to do that, comfort is key. Comfort can be found in a white and black gaming chair.
Great place to visit, but I couldn't live there due to he unaffordability. I watched a different video and many comments brought up the notion that's there's barely a middle class in Vancouver. You're either rich or poor there. Also, I prefer Burnaby as it's more central and you can get to other areas in the region and do things. Not feeling too far away
rather visit for vacation than live - I moved here during the pandemic, so far one local who is white/indigenous Canadian has been the nicest person I met so far - the rest are jerks.
One of the things that I feel people miss about Vancouver is the amazing indigenous artist community. If you are a northwestcoast artist it is a mecca for artists.
@@Shreyansh147 Yeah like I place people travel to from all over the world. Mecca is a religious place that people all over go to visit . Vancouver is the place you go as a northeest cosst indigenous artist.
If you move here under age 30, you can meet people... Not sure if friendliness & care will be there... Wages are poor as a provincial gov employee. You can still do it on 40 gs....
Vancouver's house price is the highest in Canada, but the overall salary is just above the national average. So for the general public, the cost of living is very high. The weather there is rainy, and sunshine may be out of sight for several months. Despite the usual grey sky，Vancouver is actually the warmest place in Canada in winter, which is far warmer than the prairie provinces.
Damn, it's funny for me that those "negatives" seem so bad to many people. I want to move to Vancouver from Poland and the weather here is pretty similar, but even worse as winter is dark, wet and cold. Traffic in Warsaw is pretty much the same. Cost of living even in Van is still lower than in Warsaw, because here, we would earn 50k a year, but spend 2-3 as much, so yeah...
Actually I had a roommate who moved from Vancouver to Toronto.She went back to Vancouver on December.She said Toronto is so cold and she can't take it.
You have to have a lot of money to live here. The weather is terrible most of the year. Unless you like rain and dull clouds most of your life. It’s been cold and raining here for almost 7 months now and it’s not very uplifting.
Everything in life is a Cost vs Benefits analysis. I moved from Toronto to Vancouver as a young man in 1992. I attended UBC and worked and lived downtown for 20 years spending nights after work in Yaletown restaurants and pubs. In that time the population of the city doubled. Between 30,000 - 70,000 people a year moving here. Now that I'm 52 years old my interests and priorities have changed. If a person has children it's not surprising to move out to the suburbs. I've been in Abbotsford for 3 years now. I don't care about going to the beach anymore, I don't ski anymore, I use to enjoy the crowded streets of Robson and Granville but now I don't. I've been entertaining moving to New Brunswick where I can buy a house on 5 acres for $130,000 (small hobby farm). That's hard to resist. I know families with 3 children who have moved to Edmonton and other places where you can make more money and your dollar goes much further. For young people and/or young couples Vancouver is a great place to live. Without question the best weather in Canada only better in Victoria. But I know people who were born and raised here and now live in Regina and Calgary and they find the winters nicer for them in those cities, stating they don't like the wet damp cold we have in Vancouver. It all boils down to personal preference and cost benefits. My aunt and uncle moved to Aldergrove/Abbotsford from Ontario 4 years after I moved to Vancouver in 1996. They've since retired to Nanaimo on Vancouver Island, which is the retirement capital of Canada. With a lifetime of savings for 70 year olds it's possible. If you're a young professional you can't beat Vancouver for lifestyle.
Well said.
OMG, sounds like we are twins, i'm 54 and bored by the mountain and beach views for many years. i moved in Vancouver in 2000 and now living in surrey since 2013. i would not move to NS or NB just because a house is 130k
I emigrated from western europe and i realize that people over there can afford more maybe double with their 3000euro income than a 6000$ net income made in canada. sorry still life affordability is better in EU including buying a property or rent one .
He's in a gamer chair
I totally get what you're saying. Good comment
@@stratulatus Would you ever move back to Europe?
I was waiting for you to mention the social aspect of living in Vancouver. Lots of people find it tough to form close relationships in Vancouver, and often say that others are judgmental and closed off.
Google Vancouverites are:
Top 5 include Rude, Shallow, Snobs, Fake and Unfriendly. Quite a reputation we have earned. 😥
Sounds like Seattle .
@@ZRaden well let's change that. It's in our control. Let's be a community of human beings rather than just walking past each other like robots
@@ZRaden really? that is interesting, do you think "FAKE" and super polite could be the same thing?
People I asked for directions , I must say of all ethnic backgrounds were very friendly.
As someone from Toronto, while Vancouver is gorgeous as a city I found it extremely boring aside from nature/outdoorsy activities. I also found it very hard for people to let you in, which I was surprised because I thought Toronto people were bad (grumpy & pushy) but... I got the impression that no one in Van really wants to make connections and people are very suspicious and reserved.
We got our BC title for a reason, being reserved is something we picked up from the GREAT BRITAIN.
@@LifeCanada2022 yeah, Ontario was colonized by GREAT BRITAIN before Vancouver, but we are still fairly open-hearted out here.
@@elid5123 oh, I thought Ontario is the battlefield of Britain, France and the Yankees, influence from all three.
Hi Eli I can confirm what you just said. Vancouver people for the most part are not very friendly. Even quite underhanded and selfish. Been there many years. We moved to Alberta, way more friendly people.
I thought Vancouver would be friendlier than Toronto since it's smaller in size along with having that laid-back vibe.
Don't worry, one winter in Winnipeg and they'll be back.
but buy then an east indian will own there house
Tell me about it lol. Lived in Winnipeg for 1 winter , thanks but no thanks lol waited for the birds to sing & & I’m back to Vancouver 😜😜😜🇨🇦
@John Meyer Well ok, let's go with Regina then? Actually, I was joking. I have a friend from Winnipeg and I was having a bit of fun with him. You should relax a little.
I lived in Central Alberta for 22 years of my life, moved to Vancouver and I want to go back to Alberta. I guess the wetness and seasonal depression isn’t for everyone 🤷🏼♀️
@@adriannasadventures9549 As I said, it was a jest. Lived in North West Ontrario growing up and my definition of seasonal depression was having sun bright enough to fry my retinas as it reflected off the snow but not being warm enough to keep my eyelashes from freezing together.
As a Torontonian, I find people in Vancouver to be more unfriendly and cold, I also just find that although it is a beautiful city, there seems to be lack of culture, diversity and nightlife/entertainment. Can’t wait to leave.
People are prejudice and it's because it's so expensive people are uppity af
@Jess Foran - A lack of diversity? What part of the city did you visit? There are massive populations of people from China, Japan, Thailand, India, the Middle East, etc. They are spread out all throughout the Vancouver area. It's unbelievably diverse. They may not all be concentrated in the downtown area but that's not really just "Vancouver" now is it?
You’re right, it’s super snooty here
Rob On Refresh Yes but diversity of just Asians doesn’t count. You guys don’t have many other ethnicities and races, it feels very white or brown priviledged. I have been living in Vancouver proper for 8 months and I have barely seen any black people. Barely any carribeans, south americans, There are also no latin people or mixed people.
@@jessforan7810 - Wow...so diversity within the Asian population doesn't count? Fascinating. So you define diversity simply by a person's skin color? I think that's a poor way to define diversity. Would it surprise you to know that many people from South America have lighter-colored skin - mostly because of their European heritage?
According to the latest census numbers I can find, the "Black" population in Toronto (the metropolitan area being more than twice the size of Vancouver) is around 8% while it is 1% in Vancouver. That's not a massive difference. I think it's more a function of geography than some kind of immigration policy conspiracy. Asia is simply closer to BC. Seattle's demographics are very similar to Vancouver and if I had to wager a guess, New York is probably closer to Toronto from a demographics perspective. It's been that way for decades so shouldn't have been that much of a surprise when you made the move to Vancouver?
fellow vancouverite here! born and raised and absolutely love it. obviously there are the negatives, but like you, the positives outweigh them!
So fascinating. It seems like a lot of these issues are affecting cities in both Canada and the US. I’m about to post my own video with this same theme but about Boulder, Colorado. Really interesting to hear about similar problems in other cities!
I'll be sure to check that out! I find it interesting as well!
@@AdamJBell Thanks, Adam! ✌ I just posted if you do want to check it out.
Almost all western cities are run by liberal politicians. They all have big government and high taxes. Read the book Atlas Shrugged and you will understand.
Vancouver makes boulder look like its peanuts to live in boulder .
@@samoday2992 not really. Factor in the exchange rates. 1 million Canadian = 792K USD
As someone from LA looking to move to Vancouver they definitely do share some similarities. The high cost of living, homeless issue, and traffic, I mean especially LA being notorious for its traffic. Unfortunately seeing 1 hour of traffic has become normalized for me. Surprisingly a lot of people I talk to, including myself, want to move out of LA because of the weather as well. While having year round sunshine is nice, it gets pretty cumbersome when it consistently hits 30 degrees or more even during the "winter." It would be nice to see some real seasons. Solid videos btw!
I'd like to add that people will constantly tell me not to move to Vancouver because of the cons you listed, as well the claim that social life is tough there, but honestly I'm used to those things in LA so they're really nothing bad relative to my experience right now.
@@cjspeak Really about the social life being tough in LA? I've always had the impression that the people were friendly and happy there.
I had seasonal depression and severe migraines all 7 years I lived in Victoria. Sometimes my migraines lasted up to 3 days. Vancouver is gloomy all winter as well. Moved to GTA and had only light headaches a few times. So relieved that I don't have a lingering headache everyday of the winter anymore, no migraines so far. There are a lot of sunny days here.
I lived in Vancouver and coming from the states perspective, there's really nothing to do in this "city".🤷♀️
Oh so thats why my cousin in Vancouver took a photo and he wrote ‘in between’.
Note/ in every photo he does that.
Now I know the people of Vancouver are always ( in between) lol. Thats why there is nothing to do🤣.
Except hiking
What do you know? Do you own a gamer chair?
What is missing for example ?
I mean theres the hills right next to it
Vancouver, a world class city: homelessness out of control
Bravo
@Karl Marx New York, Paris
Go back? He's in a gamer chair!
@Zac Atkinson which cities do you recommend
@Zac Atkinson hi. Which cities are better?
As someone who just moved to Van from Toronto:
-The homelessness in certain areas is on a scale I've never seen in the entire world, (maybe skid row in LA?). The east side of Vancouver is an example to the world of what policies to never follow in terms of homelessness, drugs and mental health.
-The mountains, hikes and views are even more awesome than you would imagine.
-Summers are super sunny.
-The ocean is astonishingly overrated, the water is brown at all the major beaches, and just never clear. Some beaches are a lot of fun though because good crowds (wreck beach).
-Population is much less diverse than it thinks it is. 90% of people are either white or asian. Almost nobody jaywalks and people really respect rules.
-Cheaper than Toronto now with Covid, very easy to find a room downtown around 1k/month.
@@aleeshaidrees34 after nearly a year, I'd say it's a tie. Toronto offers better city life and Vancouver offers better nature. Don't go to Vancouver thinking it's gonna be the LA of Canada. It's more like the Seattle of Canada.
Just come down to seattle/portland / san fran has to offer on the homeless scale . We dwarf vancouver.
@@ExploringSpace child nobody thinks Vancouver is the LA of anywhere 😂
1000/ month for real? Like what area? How many beds？
I'm an islander. I live in a temperate rainforest. I'm going to expect it to rain. The people who complain about winter weather around here never actually make it outside to see the forests in the winter. They're usually depressed indoor smartphone addicts.
Moving to Vancouver in November 2021, your videos are super helpful man!
Awesome to hear it Max, I'll continue with them 🙌
Same in Hawaii, brah! $2000 a month rent, $12-14/ hr wages and trying to live on tips. Total bullshit and locals born and raised on the Islands can’t afford to buy a house. Tourism and corporate greed have created this. But the weather, food, people and ocean are awesome!
Hawaii has got nothing on Vancouver's gamer chairs
Vancouver and LA have the “good weather” tax 🤣😅
YES exactly this 😂
Just that LA's is nicer haha
It's actually expensive because the Chinese have taken over.
Vancouver’s weather isn’t even THAT good 😢
But it has the subjectively best weather in Canada
@@mskawaiiism It's humid af
@@FoxExcess ofc, that’s what happens when you’re situated right beside the ocean.
Personally, I prefer Toronto and Montreal weather to Vancouver’s but almost everyone I know will say that Vancouver’s is better. I can’t stand humidity
Thank you Adam. This is very clear and concise, and l appreciate your explanations in detail!
If you have not been here recently it is really hard to explain what a dystopian nightmare Downtown Vancouver has become. It's not just a few blocks either. It looks exactly like the first two RoboCop movies with crime , garbage, rats , people shooting up ,tents on every sidewalk. Then on the same street there will be a Ferrari parked.
It’s very lonley here if u move on ur own and being in a city all alone while it’s so beautiful here and having fun … it really gets to u
spend 15 years in northern Canada with -20 + winters! ill take the rain and gloom +5 to 16 all winter. and as a plus there is always something to do that doesn't take hours to get to.
Yeah the weather is number one for me. I’ve lived here for almost 20 years and I am getting more and more affected by the rain, the grey and the often disappointingly gloomy summers. I pretty much look forward all year to the chance that we may get nice weather in July and August
We've been here for 6 months and I already feel like that. I have seen a lot of other places in BC that I'd love to live though. Hope, Kelowna, Merritt, and other places north of here are more to my liking, .. unfortunately my wife and step son think Vancouver is just great.
Amen. Vancouver isn’t even that warm to deal with the lack of sunlight. I was cold there in august at night smh
I find Vancouver boring and unfriendly compared to other Canadian cities.
It used to be such a cool, friendly city. Real shame it’s changed so much. Portland is the same. Now it’s full of trustafarians, yuppies and L.A. assholes that moved up there. Still some good folk, like in Vancouver but the dynamic has changed massively!
You made my day
You clearly haven't been to Montreal or Toronto. I've lived in both and just recently moved to Vancouver and it is by far friendlier. As for boring...that's subjective.
Please come stay in Montreal, the warm weather here at -30 and the nice discrimination will make you cherish every ounce of Vancouver. Moving there and never look back. A life changing experience. Toronto is not my thing. Too many people and less green space.
You want more friendly place move to Quebec city. I had a horrific experience visiting that city.
Yup. Despite my qualifications I couldn’t land a full time job for almost four fuckin years.
I've lived in North Vancouver for almost 6 years and I love it. I fully identify with all of the negatives and reasons people leave but I agree that I'd rather have wet than cold and I just love the mountains and ocean. I will add that the other reason for the traffic issues is that there are no highways in Vancouver just around the outskirts because of some strong neighbourhood advocacy many years ago.
That's what makes us a good city, in principal (well, it was good and has good parts to it). Chinatown and Commercial Drive would have disappeared.
It's literally been raining for 8 months straight now. Not a single day of full sunshine. This is making me suicidal, June feels exactly like January. Sorry, the constant clouds and rain can go fuck itself. Vancouver is a boring wet rag of a city.
As someone who lives just outside Toronto, I can definitely say I'd rather it be cold than having no sun for 30+ days
30? lol its 120 days easy
@@chriszag702 Yeah I meant continuous days in a row
@@imCurveee yaya, just when you live in it, that 72hr break in the rain befor the next 22 days go un noticed (:
Only thing I disagree is months without sun, I’m a landscaper so I can tell you with certainty that it very rarely rains all day every day. There is always breaks in the rain and sun pops out constantly. Again, I’m actually out there so I know. And I’m born and raised here so again, I know. Playing tennis outside in January doesn’t happen anywhere else in Canada so it’s a compromise for sure, we have some gorgeous days in the winter that feel like spring. Anyone else remember the Olympics in February 2010? It was 12 degrees some of those days.
Sorry I call bs, the sun does not “pop out”constantly, the breaks in rain just means it’s still cloudy but not rainy. Olympics was 10 years ago honey and that was an El Niño year (rare).
The sun pops out constantly in winter , yeah you’re not for real. Maybe once spring comes round but one thing that is most definitely not popping out in winter here constantly is sun.
You lie.
Where did you grow up, Tsawassen?? That’s the sunniest part but still, not that sunny.
It most definitely is months without sun, even if it’s not raining all day.
I’m going to check back with you in a few months , it’s end of October now we’ll see how the season pans out the next few months and who’s right😉
Have fun landscaping in damp Vancouver this winter hey at least there’s no snow!
The reality is, November to February it’s overcast with showers for days on end, then there might a break with some sun and cloud for a day or two but not more, then it’s back to grey. If the sun pops out it’s a rare thing.
When the sun does pop up, it's around 2 pm. Not a time when most people with day jobs could enjoy it.
Very informative like always Adam. Good job!
Thanks again Dinish, I appreciate the continued support 💯😄
I think a common growing trend is people will choose to live in Vancouver, but they will work a rotational shift somewhere remote such as FSJ. The salaries offered for up north jobs in BC are too high to ignore.
Yup I know people who do it! :D
@@AdamJBell Do you agree this trend will continue to grow?
VeeTravels would you expand on this plz? Do you mean there are places in North BC that offer better salaries compared to Vancouver? If yes, which areas?
@@AdamJBell is it still considered a Canadian experience while applying for PR if you were inside Canada but worked remotely for US?
I think it’s also important to mentioned that a big part of the increasing homelessness problem is that other provinces are shipping their homeless population to Vancouver , through one way bus tickets, because the weather is more mild in Vancouver , giving them a better chance to survive... people on the streets from places like Nova Scotia and even Quebec..
Zac Atkinson no, Quebec doesn’t send is homeless people. Actually, the cost of living here (in Montreal) is wayyy cheaper then Vancouver.
yeah right🤣🤣🤣
That is interesting, and i have heard stories like Vancouver shipping homeless people to the interior area, especially during the OLIMPIC period
I left back in 2017, happily living between Los Angeles and Phoenix now! I still miss Vancouver every now and then.
Did you move for work, lifestyle or scenery?
Thanks so much for these videos, I am still dying to move to Vancouver anyways!! The negatives in my country are significantly worse despite the amazing weather and cheaper cost of living.
Great to hear! Yeah the bad parts aren't too bad besides those 2 factors!
What country is your country?
@@25Soupy South Africa
I been living in Van area for 10 years. Can't argue your points. :)
I can't wait to move to Vancouver ❤️❤️ these videos help me so much
Glad to hear it !
Don't bother
The positives far outweigh the negatives... You will love it!!!
Don't move there.
@@FoxExcess where should I??? Toronto’s the same lol. Might aswell
I love Vancouver for it's Massive Bio Mass surrounding the city. The year round ice hockey facilities, the year round soccer. The parks and cycling. The ski hills right in the city. My wife and I raised our son in the city. Grandview/commercial drive. We had our little guy in capoeira classes, animation classes, hockey, futebol. It was a great city to raise children and be an active family involved in Arts and culture. Unfortunately, the city became flooded with foreign real estate speculators and criminal drug gangs who launder their profits from fentanyl into Vancouver housing, numbered accounts, luxury cars, etc..Corrupt politicians, the economy of poverty...so much festering dishonesty and greed seethes through the under current of what once was a charming west coast temperate rainforest city. The artists and musicians and writers and bohemians and backpackers and mountaineers have all left. The city worships the KARDASHIANS now.
We also don’t see the sun for long stretches in Houston because of all the rain. Twice as much as Seattle. I like rainy days just not this heat 🥵
Have been here for a month to see how it will pan out. Seriously contemplating about moving back to Ontario, but the natural beauty is sucking me in. Thank you, though, for reminding me about the winter weather when I won't see those northern mountains in the rain.
Vancouver is nice for Canada. Meaning, if a job opportunity comes up in SF or NY, see ya!
Lmaoo😂😂
If you could leave Canada, the rest of us would appreciate it. Good riddance.
I completely agree with you I love Sam Francisco I’ve never been to New York but yeah it sounds amazing
@@jameshanley809 You as well. Good riddance. Vancouver's a hell hole, but nowhere near as much of a toilet as anywhere in America.
@Frank Lemarin I agree, they're night and day. Montréal's amazing and Vancouver's a hell hole, but I'd rather live in Vancouver than some American toilet.
I am born and raised in Vancouver - third generation here in the Lower Mainland and we recently made the huge decision to sell our home and buy in the Okanagan. The market is so hot right now, and as much as I love my city we are ready for a slower pace of life and to raise our family in a smaller place.
I packed up and moved to the Okanagan as well
I'm thinking of doing the same. Buy a nice farm house up there. Just have to convince the wife.
Good stay in NDP loving BC and avoid the rest of the country where they detest you west coast freaks!
Me too. Kelowna is actually beautiful.
Then you guys price out the locals in the okanagen .
Very informative. Thanks. Need more videos on different neighborhoods of Vancouver.
I always think of our amazing, early springs as rewards for making it through our grey winters.
I live in Edmonton, but lived in Vancouver back in 1999. Even at that time it was expensive and the employment situation was bad too. I was however, one of the lucky ones as I lived in Vancouver during the 60's, 70's, 80's, and most of the 90's. The lucky times were the 60's and 70's, as back then, Vancouver was an awesome city. Gastown was really cool and it was clean and safe to walk East Hastings. Then came Expo 86, and after that, the city took a huge slide into what it is now. Before I left I use to say to others, "what good is milder weather and pretty mountains, when you go hungry and can never enjoy them?" I left for Calgary and got a job and an affordable place to live in one day!!! Yes, it's not as mild of weather, but it just toughens you up and now it's been so long, I don't even think about it. I now own a great place in Edmonton, I have a full belly, my bills are paid, and the taxes are low. Vancouver is a very pretty city, (outside of East Hastings), but with what I have now, I would visit but never move back. Just one persons story to consider. All it takes is courage to make the move!
The rain is so nice tho. It cleans the air and makes the air quality better as a result. And sometimes walking in the rain makes me feel happy. When it rains really hard sometime me and my cousin will stand outside the house until we are soaked and are ready to go back in the house. It's fun
I agree, I don't hate the rain either 🙌
I have lived in Vancouver, Toronto, Calgary, Ottawa and Gatineau (Quebec), Vancouver still has much more to offer than alot of other cities. Still one of my favorite cities. I'll take Vancouver over most cities anyday.
you are absolutely right on everything you state, I lived here for more than 20 years, feel the same, life is hard
I suffer from SAD so Vancouver would not be ideal for me. I do have a brother in Victoria and he absolutely loves BC. He is from Nanaimo and lived in Ontario for a bit but did not enjoy it at all. I myself grew up in Newfoundland so I know what it means to have no sun for weeks at a time!! Where I live now we get lots of sun and have gorgeous hot summers so that works very well for me!!! Thank you for sharing this information with us!!!
Yeah really can be tough in those times of the year! I also lived in Victoria briefly, was quite similar to Vancouver, but more sun!
grey skies and rain is the norm here.
It's kinda "Raincouver" lol, bro
Hongcouver
@@kevinjohnduerme8963imagine all the Asians pull out now Vancouver will look like Alaska or some village of Romania. The money money 💰💰. They built city with 💰💰💰💰. Go to Alberta pick a random small city now enjoy your 100% canadian atmosphere, small town only white people with nothing to do.
But gaming in your gamer chair rain or shine.
Maybe a bit expensive but quality is quality. Tips... live where you can afford base on your income & lifestyle. Adam is right.
The rain in Vancouver is crazy..... no sun light made me so sad...
moving there next month, the company send me to surrey, i'm from Colombia and the city where i live has worst problems to be worried.
There are no terrible issues here, especially if you have a decent job. Other than being expensive, I personally don't have any complaints really.
@@AdamJBell hope to be there, i'll pay a beer for you
Surrey is full of Crime !
Lol you guys, I live in Surrey, it's fine. Stop listening to sheltered / spoiled Vancouverites who think Surrey is Fallujah.
I been in surrey for 15 yrs excellent East Indian food! traffic not bad rents range from 800 to 2500 depending on condition of the place and how many bedrooms. The entertainment and night life is super boring! There is lots of malls and parks, busses run well skytrain runs often to Vancouver but only runs till 1am . Mostly south Asian community living in surrey they are very cliquee so if your not south Asian it can be lonely.Also there is a lot of homeless and south Asian gangs but unless you are involved you should be safe . Just don’t go out alone late at night.
It depends on the persons options. I'm from EU, Spain I was in Vancouver and I prefer it here in Spain and any other EU country. If you are in Canada or North America then I would either choose that city or Toronto
Great insight ^^
@@stratulatus Mate I think you misunderstood my comment maybe because I didn't use the comas. I meant I prefer Spain and any other EU country than Vancouver as I believe Spain has much more to offer to me. Spanish people can make it easy to Canada but I dont like it it's too depressing, everything is too far away especially if I want to go back to Spain and the gangs problems that Vancouver has like in Surrey. Even if you give me a house in Richmond I won't move there. I love Spain and EU
@@stratulatus where I came from we don't have that North American culture of showing off in fact if you do that all will befriend you. 98% doesn't like America
I deleted the original reply, now after reading your comment again. of course spain or EU is better than anywhere in CND
@@stratulatus Apologies I don't know what CDN stands for but if you can move out to EU I promise you that you'll be welcomed. It's not perfect but it's more genuine than NA
So true about the cost of housing. My jaw dropped when I saw a condo listed for over 600G...for a one bedroom...in Burnaby.
Hey Adam, is the cost of property this high all over BC. I'd appreciate it if you could make some videos on other towns in BC where buying or renting a house would be more affordable compared to Vancouver.
I have spent 14yrs in Vancouver as a immigrant. because of same reasons below. I am totally sick of everything of Vancouver. I gonna leave Vancouver soon forever...Thanks for your explain...
Calgary is better! Locals are friendlier, there aren't any crazy traffic lanes, no homelessness, no pst tax, quality of living is good. A rented apartment costs approximately $2500 and higher.
Great video, friend! Vancouver is one expensive city haha!
No doubt about it! Thanks Stephen 🙌
For the evil people telling him to go back where he came from…. GO KICK A WALL BAREFOOT! This man is taking his valuable time out to provide crucial information for those who want to live in Vancouver. And he’s doing it well by weighing the pros and cons on what people want to know. And all you’re doing is proving why social media and platforms are toxic. Because of people like you!
Thanks for your videos bro! Keep them coming 👍
Why are people leaving Vancouver ?
Cost of rent.
Not just Vancouver but Metro Vancouver rent as a whole is ridiculous.
I live in the Suburbs and the rent for a basement suite is still $1400+ a month.
I dont think the weather there is that bad, its about the same rainwise as here in Ireland, but you know you'll have a good summer, here you might just have a few weeks to a month of sun and the rest of the time its grey.
i currently live in vancouver and was thinking of moving to toronto, but honestly i think im happy where im at
Toronto I visit for vacation and go to Barry's bootcamp... at least I am a member of the Barry's Canada fit fam and the coaches are nice/awesome
Ikr. Is it really that expensive as people claim?
Please continue saying the truth. This way u will increase your subscribers . There are too many TH-camrs who only talk about the good things. I am sharing these type of videos to everyone I can.
I agree with 100% of what you said. I lived in Van for about two years struggling with almost everything you mentioned, but I also had superb moments I will never forget. Today, after a couple of years that I had left the city, I think if the person wants to live there they need a good plan + focus + a considerable amount of money + a bit of luck.
BTW, I was trying to find a video to convince me not to love Vancouver anymore... That was a big fail. hahaha Thanks for the awesome content.
PS: You forgot to mention how it's hard making friends in Van. That's the worst one in my opinion.
Weather? Are you high? Toronto ... snows all the time, the reason people are here is because of the weather.
Moving south? Sure, but we have the best weather in Canada.
Correction. There may be "some" snow in Toronto anytime from the middle of November till the middle of April but it's not that much. We moved from Guelph (about an hour west of Toronto) to Vancouver in the late spring of this year. There are a great many people that try Vancouver and then go back to where they came from because they couldn't handle the depressing weather here. At least with the snow and cold for 5 month the other side of the Rockies there's sunshine most days, and that has a tendency to make people feel a lot better. The downside I see to southern Ontario is the extreme heat and humidity during summer months.
@@timsretirementjourney8323 being from here or living here for a long time, u get used to it. U even come to love it in a way, or at least embrace it. It's what makes it so green and full of huge trees and great rivers and lakes. People adapt. Those that can't or refuse to accept it leave.
@@nucks2233 I can't disagree with what you say. When a person either grows up in a certain place or lives there a long time they get acclimatized and it feels normal.
My wife and step son are from the Philippines, and after him coming here to go to UBC he decided to stay here, ... and of course his mom wanted us to follow. They are used to rain, smog and heat, and not that fond of snow, so as with most Asians Vancouver seems like a more comfortable fit for them. As for me although there are some things I do like about Vancouver it wouldn't make my top 100 places in Canada I'd prefer to live.
P.S. the Canucks did well last season and that was great to see. They're going to have a very good team going forward.
@@timsretirementjourney8323 I was born and raised in Toronto, (23 years). I've lived in Vancouver for 28 years now. Sunshine average hours per year: Toronto: 2066, Vancouver: 1938, Victoria: 2109, Winnipeg: 2353. I would argue it's more in peoples heads as the hours of sunshine isn't that great otherwise we should all move to Winnipeg. I don't want to be in Ontario for the cold winters or the summers for the humidity. It's a personal choice. I moved to Vancouver because of the weather.
@@25Soupy maybe it's just that the sunshine can't get through all the wildfire smoke we breath in for a month or more pretty much every year. 🤓
Even tho, that city is known the best weather in Canada lol. The wages is not a problem compared with other's provinces taxes, it fits really well for me. Hope 1day get to there. Greetings from 🇨🇴
There are also people coming back to Vancouver from the suburbs. “While 2020 and 2021 are very similar, in each year only 0.5% of the clients we packed moved from the suburbs to Vancouver, in 2022, this number increased to 2%.”
Very nice and informative video. I think I will stay in Toronto for the next few years (even though I’m not even old enough to move out) but I like it here. Vancouver though seems like a beautiful place and I’d love to visit it someday.
Don't think I'll ever be able to leave my home town of Los Angeles. Spent my whole life in the same area and just love having so much to explore
Also, the job market isn't the best. Recently there was a career fair held from 10-2. I decided to show up at 12 : 40 along with a few other people. The security guard informed us that the job fair was finished! Tip: I guess show up right on the dot.
I lived in Kitsilano for a couple of years. Hated the rain.
Vancouver is a world class city. There will always be more people moving in than out. It’s expensive but it’s not really that bad
I agree with that Brain 💯
The cost of living is eventually going to crash the housing market because the number of homeless people is going to section off larger and larger portions of the city and ruin property values, as a 25 year old with a 40-45k salary moving out of my families house is not in the books if I want to live an enjoyable life.
It is definitely bad when the market is pricing out future generations of locals, people are often too busy working to pay living expenses to make time for leisure activities that help in developing communities and giving people reasons to stay when they can have much better lives in other regions of Canada or the world.
Not only the cost of living but also the extortionate ICBC insurance rates, that require you to pay the cost of a decent used car every 2 years on a clean driving record because without it you can't get a license plate for your vehicle.
it’s all about budgeting and spending within your limit (not getting a new iPhone every year or buying an expensive car to impress your friends etc.) I was able to buy an apartment 2yrs after college in the early 2000s by being careful with my spending and investing my savings. It might be harder now because real estate prices have gone up but with historic low interest rates, it’s much easier to service debt.
@@Brian-uy6iw superb
Really appreciated
Vancouver is not a world-class city. Do you see European billionaires living in Vancouver full time? Ya, no
I always have in mind the sentences“it really depend on how much you earn”
Subs are going up. Keep it going bud👌
Thanks Jon! Hopefully that 10k soon 😀
do you have any official statistics of people leaving Vancouver?
Yes anyone with a functioning brain!!
Homelessness Traffic High Cost and sometimes weather (tons of snow in east side of North America). All these are reasons to stay away from most North American Big Cities.
Well there are a lot of larger North American cities without a lot of unsheltered homeless people. Calgary, Montreal and Quebec City, or Miami, Las Vegas, Boston and New York.
When I say New York people think I’m lying. But by 2019, New York only had less than 3500 unsheltered homeless people. That means people living on the streets. That’s less than most major cities in the world, like Berlin, Paris, London, Amsterdam, Stockholm, Rome and etc. New York has a very extensive homeless housing program, as well as a robust rehabilitation system for substance abusers. Int total there are about 60.000 people without their own homes, but 56.500 of those have permanent shelter and do not live outside.
Hmm, just get a remote job and move to Surrey, Langley or Coquitlam. I moved to Langley earlier this year and it’s much better. People are a bit different and not as ‘city’, but it’s not bad.
Hey Adam, good to see you became youtuber, I subscribed to your channel and hope you succeed in your new journey!
Hey, can do a video on Victoria BC. Coz I got to know there are few specific differences between Victoria & Vancouver..
I may do this in the future!
On rushhour, skytrain can be very busy too, closed to other big european and asian big towns. Hopefully there is a very high frequency of trains. On the other side, when you talk about Van, do you talk about Vancouver City, or Metrovancouver ? Metrovancouver might be easier to live, dispite of the weather. There is less homelessness, it's less expensive.
Honestly Vancouver being the only city I’ve lived in isn’t bad, it’s just the weather I don’t like. The homelessness is just mostly in downtown east side which no one goes to. Other than that I am pretty happy where I live. :)
No man it’s everywhere
is the money in USD or canadian dollar
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Duhhh, what do you think?
I love it here
I do as well! 💯
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Just found your channel! Subscribed! Might get a base transfer from Montreal (I’m a flight attendant, so I’m looking for cheapest rent possible + close to airport (no car)) So I’ll be studying your vids! Hope you keep us informed! Thanks dude!
Awesome to hear!! I'll try to provide 🙌
Rain, cold, windy, no sun for 30 days? Welcome to Hamburg, Germany 😛 8 months of winter, maybe 4 months of summer. Rain, rain, rain. And crazy, insane ice cold wind through the winter. But you find 1 bedroom apartments for under 800€ a month and salaries range between 35.000 - 100.000€ in general. We have high taxes (up to 45%) but health care is already included.
The more I learn about Canada, the more I realize there are many similarities to Germany.
Hi Adam , good video !
Thanks Ellen 🙌😀
I'll be moving to Vancouver in July through the IEC program for $18/hr, man it's gonna be tough.
18 bucks an hour ?? Ha a your gunna be homeless and starve in hongcoover. I make double that I stilll.struggled.
Calgary is the best city to move to right now despite Alberta's setbacks. sadly, I foresee Calgary heading the same direction as Vancouver and Toronto in the next decade.
Great videos!! We are moving next year!!!
This week I'll be deciding if I'll move to VA from MTL. Most of the negatives you mention I can already see in a different shade here in MTL, like the "winter darkness" and such. Which areas are your favourite to live in?
I moved to Montreal from Vancouver two years ago. Now I’m back I. vancouver. Six months of snow ❄️ (it started today) was too much for me.
I've got a video that talks about the different areas of Vancouver. Personally my favourite areas here are Yaletown, West End, and Kitsilano
Montreal has really really hot humid summer like 40 degrees you can barely breath I don’t know about Vancouver I guess it’s more cool for sure
We had a business in Vancouver. There are many reasons to leave Vancouver. If you run a business where you need to lease space and have employees Vancouver is getting worse every year. 3000sqft is $10k property tax. A "standard" house worth $2million (nothing fancy) will likely set you back $10k property tax also. That's like renting ($800+ a month flushed down the toilet). Commuting through downtown (carpool) was a nightmare. Constant construction on most city blocks, every turn more construction. Plus they'd close 2 of 4 lanes on Nelson in morning rush hour... what?? There's nobody with a common sense brain left in city hall. You can't go to Stanley Park or most major recreational places on a weekend because there are 10x as many people there. Parking is crazy expensive. Sure, the beaches are beautiful and ocean is nice and the mountains look pretty. But it's lipstick on a pig. Cost of doing business, cost of running a business, cost of sitting stuck in traffic, cost of having employees sit on a bus on Georgia street for 25mins because some dolt decided to change the bus lane during morning rush hours.... the craziness just doesn't stop. Now, lets add on the recent ideas of making downtown and east to Clark St then south to Broadway a toll zone!! How about the recent announcement that ALL residential parking in the city would soon require paid permits or pay to park. What about the idea of removing at least 2 lanes on the Granville bridge for bike lanes. What?? Vancouver has the highest taxes in the province yet the city complains they are broke. What the hell are they doing with the money?? Oh wait the mayor just renovated one floor at city hall for what $700k while he asked the province for money as they are broke?? Something isn't quite right here. As a business owner, relocating anywhere about an hour out of Vancouver (or further) just makes sense. Three other business owners I know are moving their businesses out of Vancouver. Another one is so fed up with the red tape and crazy permit fees for renovating his warehouse space he's ready to pull the plug. Instead of $140 business license fee, why not move to a community where there is no business license required.... all these things add up. I've lived in Vancouver for decades and I've seen the slow decline. As more businesses move out what is the city's tax base going to be? Jumping ship was the best move ever. Before this I watched the "everyone is leaving California" videos.... it's all the same.... super high cost of living where eventually it negates the positive aspects.
High cost of living in Vancouver, but you can always make more money. One suggestion is gaming, but if you are going to do that, comfort is key. Comfort can be found in a white and black gaming chair.
I pay 1400 including rent bills and bus pass in Vancouver. I have single apartment with room bath and hall. Yes I live in Vancouver.
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Agreed!
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Live...but not living
@@darson9843 I spend the rest on mutual funds stocks traveling gym. It’s a good balance
And here I was thinking of moving to Vancouver for work? Would Toronto/Ontario be a better option?
Same shit different pile
Left two years ago. Never looked back. Not that it is a bad city.
Where did you move to? How does it compare to Vancouver and why did you make the move?
Great place to visit, but I couldn't live there due to he unaffordability. I watched a different video and many comments brought up the notion that's there's barely a middle class in Vancouver. You're either rich or poor there.
Also, I prefer Burnaby as it's more central and you can get to other areas in the region and do things. Not feeling too far away
Can't deny any of that. Good points. It's true the middle class is small because of the living expenses for sure.
rather visit for vacation than live - I moved here during the pandemic, so far one local who is white/indigenous Canadian has been the nicest person I met so far - the rest are jerks.
@R. slightly cheaper, but more vacanies for sure. Well it's also better for Parking compared to Vancouver. Much quieter too.
One of the things that I feel people miss about Vancouver is the amazing indigenous artist community. If you are a northwestcoast artist it is a mecca for artists.
Mecca ?
@@Shreyansh147 Yeah like I place people travel to from all over the world. Mecca is a religious place that people all over go to visit . Vancouver is the place you go as a northeest cosst indigenous artist.
Love this !! 😌
This is posted about Sept/Oct 2020. Could a few of your friends who are moving out be doing so because the $2000/mon CERB ended?
If you move here under age 30, you can meet people... Not sure if friendliness & care will be there... Wages are poor as a provincial gov employee. You can still do it on 40 gs....
Vancouver's house price is the highest in Canada, but the overall salary is just above the national average. So for the general public, the cost of living is very high. The weather there is rainy, and sunshine may be out of sight for several months. Despite the usual grey sky，Vancouver is actually the warmest place in Canada in winter, which is far warmer than the prairie provinces.
Damn, it's funny for me that those "negatives" seem so bad to many people. I want to move to Vancouver from Poland and the weather here is pretty similar, but even worse as winter is dark, wet and cold. Traffic in Warsaw is pretty much the same. Cost of living even in Van is still lower than in Warsaw, because here, we would earn 50k a year, but spend 2-3 as much, so yeah...
Truly lots of people just like to complain haha. I still love it here 💯
Too many blacks in vancouver, moving back to EE myself
Your kidding right ? Warsaw is not even close to as expensive as Vancouver 😂
@@samoday2992 I think he meant that compared to the salary he still spends it all
Are the suburbs bad too specifically Richmond and Coquitlam? I may have a low paying job in either place....which is better?
Actually I had a roommate who moved from Vancouver to Toronto.She went back to Vancouver on December.She said Toronto is so cold and she can't take it.
You have to have a lot of money to live here. The weather is terrible most of the year. Unless you like rain and dull clouds most of your life. It’s been cold and raining here for almost 7 months now and it’s not very uplifting.