1:05 - 1:16 and 1:39 - 1:47 are the exact reasons why I got burnt out and quit from gacha as a whole due to its very nature, especially as someone employed working 9-5 you no longer have the luxury to invest time on scheduled daily basis. It is why I have transitioned myself into traditional single player games which does not have any of time restriction game design like stamina system, weekly bosses, battlepasses etc.
I play Gacha games because 1- They are free with frequent content drops 2- Amazing characters, gameplay with really insane lore and story which is why I play them mainly 3- Doesn't take up much of my time with the grind I am currently playing Genshin since launch, I started HSR in 1.6, ZZZ since launch and WuWa on and off since launch. ZZZ is my favorite of them all and where I actually spend real money.
I think ZZZ (if you don't mind there is little exploration) is Hoyo's best game. I wish the economy was a little less stingy, and that levelling wasn't so expensive, but the game is pretty crisp, the music slaps and the animations of the characters are great - seriously, how cute is Belle!? Couple that with low time investment, a stamina sink, and what's on order is actually fun and the devs actually listen: no more TVs, free Harumasa, and 1.4 really delivered on story ... all in all it's a complete package.
@@John_II Yup not only Hoyo's best game but one of the if not the best Gacha game in the market right now and I have played a lot of gachas before and after Genshin but nothing comes close to the quality and polish that ZZZ has with maybe Reverse 1999 being an exception but it's 2d so it doesn't count the gameplay is boring for my taste but still a lot better than FGO. I have never spent money on any gachas except buying the monthly pass sometimes but ZZZ is the only game where I actually swiped to get M2 Zhu Yuan and M2 Lighter my two most favorite characters in all of gachas.
@@John_II Just picked up ZZZ a few days ago and it's really impressive. Dropped Genshin for it and satisfied as hell with my current line up of WuWa, PGR, ZZZ and HSR. If I had to drop another game, It would probably be HSR due to all the Genshin tier yapping.
I don't know how people can handle more than one Gatcha at a time, but Genshin is all I need because its story and characters are great. But I agree the FOMO/sunk cost can be a bit overwhelming at times. Since I started in 3.2 I use Genshin as a coop game I can play with the wife, so that helps with staying engaged as well.
I get the sunken cost fallacy part and that you miss playing "normal games" - I have that too, but it's such a shame to hear that you quit WuWa but stick with Genshin, cuz honestly WuWa straight up mops the floor with Genshin like crazy in nearly all aspects IMO. WuWa 2.0 is just insane and pretty much the greatest update to a gacha game I've ever experienced and I play(ed) quite a few. I never ever had this much fun playing a gacha game, including every honeymoon phases I had with them before. Playing WuWa 2.0 didn't feel like playing a gacha game at all, but like I was playing a premium full price JRPG or something - I enjoyed the HECK out of Rinascita, man! It's just so good and made Genshin's 5.3 patch look so bad in comparison... And I say all that as a former massive Genshin fan who was heavily invested in that game, but it is losing me more and more now... You should definitely give WuWa another try!
I totally agree with Rinascita. It's the first time I played a gacha where it felt closer to a AAA non-gacha than gachas like Genshin. I'm a huge Genshin fan (until I got disillusioned by how greedy and unresponsive the devs are) but I have to agree that with Rinascita, Genshin doesn't offer anything better in almost all aspects at least for me personally. Including story and story-telling. Perhaps the only thing they have is the content and well-built lore due to its years of active service. I have to say, it's the best gacha patch I've ever experienced as well.
I get you on the fomo, daily checklist downsides. When you get to a point where you're like "I can't be bothered logging in today" and stop playing for a week or two, you'll find that you have no desire to pick it up ever again because all that kept you there was fomo. The only reason I'm sticking with ZZZ and WuWa atm is because I highly value the combat experience. I stopped playing HSR because it was just kind of way too simple, and pulling the newest units will have you beating content on autoplay. And at that point, if little to zero skill is involved, and I'm pressing two buttons or on autoplay, am I even playing the damn game? I've also recently become very jaded when it comes to gacha stories. The first incentive will always be to sell you a characters, so everyone that shows up has little to no depth, characterized poorly with no development (Mavuika is the biggest mary sue, jesus...) and villains are morally gray-washed to be as appealing to as wide of an audience as they can. There are no stakes either because they usually never ever risk anyone dying, and if they do die they'll get revived somehow (Fugue lmfaooooo). I can pick up a 2.5/5 YA novel on goodreads and it'll have a better story, character interactions, character arcs than anything you'd find in a gacha games because the monetization method poisons literally everything.
Another issue is that since the product is the character, they can't change the product after purchase. This doesn't just apply to character kits, but also to the character's personality. Imagine your favourite character going through a traumatic event and coming out with a changed personality or perspective. Some people would love this, but a lot of people would be upset that the character isn't the same any more. (Think of all the people who named their daughter after Daenerys from Game of Thrones; her character development sure wasn't received well.) This is admittedly speculation on my part, and to my knowledge there aren't any laws against having character development unlike with nerfing characters post-launch, but I wouldn't be surprised if the writers and marketing teams are told that they aren't allowed to let a character deviate from their established role too much. With examples where characters did undergo a large change, such as Raiden Shogun or Wanderer from Genshin Impact, the character development happened before the character was first available on banner as I recall. --- tldr: The point of all this is that it's hard to write a good story when you can't do anything with your established characters.
Natlan pretty much made me quit Genshin Impact ngl. Aside from the nation of war really being the nation of dj'ing, dancing, singing and friendships what irked me also was mavuika. The only thing she couldn't do was paint, and it's stated she commissioned the picture of her family in her room. At the end of the archon quest she decides to learn how to paint, does the job in a single day. She destroys Capitano and Xbalanque, and gets told by the latter how damn perfect of a leader she is. It's like the writers didn't even try to hide how much of a mary sue she is. I was hoping that all of this was to build up to her plans failings due to her arrogance, but nah we don't ever see that. Just really disappointing.
I only play Genshin when new story patches drop because that's the thing I'm actually interested in, I don't do dailies anymore. Same goes for Wuwa right now. When I get all the Characters I like in HSR and ZZZ I'll probably do the same.
I get you man, the feeling of wanting to play a game for what it is. The exploration, discovery, and letting our curiosity leads us. Wuwa 2.0 is the closest thing so far, i genuinely just fly around, visited whatever place im curious about. I dont even care about the gacha and the quests i just explore and do stupid shits like flying to highest peaks of the map for sightseeing.
You pay to buy a JRPG and experience it, or you pay (way more than you should) to roll a character in a gacha that the story is totally free. Or you pay with your time doing dailies as you said. It's all a trade off. You need to pay somehow, it just that gachas are inherently more expensive. In my case, I play 6 gachas, doing dailies everyday, and this is how I see it: Genshin, Star Rail and Honkai Impact are the 3 games I like the most. Their stories are awesome, and also their characters. I want to roll for them, so I do every content for that. But even though I also want characters in WuWa and ZZZ, their stories fail to captivate me. I still do dailies most of the time, but I don't use stamina nor do most events. Girls Frontline 2 happens to be in between these 2 groups. I kinda enjoy the story but I don't play the complicated game modes in its events. Edit: I forgot to say, no one plays 3, 4 JRPGs at the same time, so of course it would be strange to play 3, 4 gachas at the same time too. You either choose your 2 main games and focus on that while treating the others as a side enjoyment, or you'll burn yourself.
When Wuthering Wave 2.0 it really felt like a fresh game for me and I was able to ignore the pulling for a while because it was very engaging. In the end you don't need much to enjoy those games.
I agree with you on the banner aspect but even as a daily Genshin, ZZZ, PGR, WuWa [among others...] player and mostly F2P at that, I think it becomes an issue of how far are you trying to push content. Are you trying to clear everything? Are you trying to 36 star abyss and grind out each and every Asterite or max reward even to get the nonesense weapon and skin you know you will never use? Change your approach to how you play them and if you cant afford to YOLO Credit Card whale, then do yourself a favour and pull for what looks fun and work with what you have. minimise the risk of Gacha FOMO by just... Playing the game. I play WuWa the way you said you are playing it right now... also if you are feeling burnt out [I Know the feeling] just take a break perhaps it will change how you enjoy the content.
My current and only gacha is GFL2. Love XCOM style games and this is a simple version but with waifus. There’s so many gachas coming out and feel like I need to stop playing them altogether or else I’ll be hooked. I won’t have time to go through my backlog of games if that happens.
I've been playing gachas for like 10+ years now, and I get it. I'm trying to take my time with WuWa because I marathoned my way to Rinascita to get enough pulls for the characters I want, it ended up making me feel exhausted with it. And then I log into HSR and GI and I have nothing to do besides dailies and its... Such a strange feeling. It also makes me feel like gachas burn through my free time to play games and I end up Not playing other "normal" games, but I still can't let go of them.😂
Its sad because if gotcha games were not gotcha games, they would be far more enjoyable, just selling skins or something for monetization like every other game. On the flip side of the coin, if they were not gotcha games, they wouldn't have the level of revenue available to do all the extremely high-quality trailers/concerts/ etc. that we love them for because gotcha makes far more than skins.
I haven't played any of Genshin's minigame events for like half a year nor any of the Natlan ones. I still treat it like a normal game with the exploration and quests because those are what I still find enjoyable. Definitely don't let the FOMO get to you
I completely understand what you mean by events. There are some like the Beetle Battle in Genshin and the various ones in Azur Lane that don't feel bad because they only take like 5 minutes. But then there are some that are really annoying and just take away from why I started playing Genshin in the first place. There's not even any rhyme to them, they're just whatever the devs feel like doing which makes it even worse.
Honestly as someone who quit wuwa and comeback for the latest update, 2.0 made me hate other gatch games with how amazing it is, but yeah i agree with you playing more then two gatch is ruining your life.
Please give the 2.0 update of wuwa a shot !! I really believe that it could reignite that feeling you're talking about, the new region and the new story are THAT good
I started cutting back on what I do in Genshin, and I enjoy it much more than I used to. I don't like building new characters, so I don't have any reason to spend stamina. Since any new characters I get would need to be built, I just don't get new characters, meaning I don't need to do dailies. A lot of those minigames felt like chores, and since I no longer need stamina or premium currency, I just stopped doing them, too. Now I just play through the story and do exploration while using the teams I already have built. If I don't log in for a week or two, I've missed nothing. I've been using this newfound time to get into other games I've been meaning to play. Funnily enough, that's also a Persona game for me. I loved Persona 4, but never got around to 3 and 5, so I decided I'd rather put my time there instead of doing gacha chores.
As someone who started at 1.1 I'm familiar with genshin burnout. My favourite thing to do in genshin is map exploration. Once its done it's not that fun anymore. I did get addicted to the pulling but grinding became a chore. Taking a break for a year and returning when the new region was 4 patches in was great. Sure I missed some free skins and one plot related event, but other than that it didn't feel like I missed that much. I did it two times: first time in Inazuma then returned in Sumeru, played for three months and dropped it until half of the Fontaine map came out. I'm going to drop it again after the last Natlan tribe part of the map unlocks. Then it's a goodbye until 6.3 probably.
I play the Hoyo games only because of the lore and the characters themselves. I absolutely love the world building. I'm a completionist and a lore lover,so I'm out of ALL content right now. Tomorrow in 7 AM (for me) the 3.0 will be out and I'm absolutely going to be there,I wanna know the new lore and etc. (Cloud Piercer 😭). I get what you mean,it just feels like a chore at this point. I forgot about the pulls,turned on "Take the Journey" on the gramophone and just walkedd around reminiscing before 3.0 drops tomorrow at 7 AM.
I played genshin for three years. Than i started seeing that it becomes worse and worse with each update. I droped it before fountaine update, than returned for at least some fountaine. got arlechino (that is there just to power creep and not to introduce something new and fun mechanics) and wriotheslay (that started the path of disrespect. its not even complete character and large part of his gameplay is hidden behind c1). I dropped it again realizing that it goes the wrong way. Than wuwa came and it was like a breath of fresh air. it had everything we didn't get in GI in 4 years and even more. I thought i'd return to GI in 5.0. But it was natlan. the nation of greed. I think no explanation is needed for this one.
I think the reason y so many ppl got burnout is due to playing so many gachas and gachas that consumes ur time a lot, for ex: after u finish GI story, u have to do zzz next, but ur time and focus got consume by GI, so u don't have the motivs to do zzz, which is the problem. Also another reason is ppl putting all their problems in a gacha game like zzz for example: ppl getting mad due to combat being repetitive and boring in the main story even tho a lot of ppl also hate tvs as well since lauch which made them quit the game and want to removed it entirely. Edit: Overall this is just my speculation, so if u have more knowledge, feel free to correct me, thanks.
It’s been awhile since I felt that just enjoying the game without thinking about my next new character, those were the good old time of Genshin. This days open world gacha especially have been feeling like a drag and feel bunt out quick probably cause of the farming aspect 😪 Been enjoy turn-based and strategy games more, I get more free time with them (also easier to farm in the background).
I quit GI and WuWa just because of its Size. I think Open World+Gacha is a Terrible Concept. 4.0 Took me 2 Days to fully explore. And not even for Sidequests or something it was all for Oculi and Chests,Puzzles or in Short Currency to Pull. 2 Days of just looking into some online Maps and Run from A to B for another Oculi. And thats not even including the Story or Sidequests which are also 2 Days +. Meanwhile HSR 2.0 took me 1 Day to fully explore,doing the Story and doing all Sidequests. I usually like Open Wormd Games but usually just for exploring Resons and not because of FOMO cause i might missing 1/20 of a Pull inside a Chest. These Days my only Gachas i play are HSR and ZZZ cause there i have the Feeling it Respects my Time the most. Daylie Stuff is Done in 5-10 mins, Weekly Stuff is not longer than 15 Mins and once a new Patch comes out its usually around 2-3 hrs of Story and 1 hrs at max to fully explore the new Area.
Pretty sure you can do dailys in wuwa in a 1 min or less in the latest update, and hsr is the last game on earth that respect your time with the bad and unskipiple story they do.
@princeata6335 its just YOUR Opinion. I couldnt care less if you could skip the Story in HSR or not cause i lime it and even read all the Lore Books ingame. So dont assume everyone shares your opinion.
What I did and I dont know if this will help people , is treat them as secondary games. I dont spend more than 20-30 mins on them unless there is something major. Go at your own place and play on your terms. This is why I enjoy games like heaven burns red and GF2. They have auto battle and other stuff just makes farming so easy. I can just focus on the good stuff and go at my own pace.
I literally stopped playing all the gatchas and focused on silent hill 2 remake and came back able to be bothered to play them again so now if it doesn't look fun I just don't play
By the time Xilonen comes around I would already be burned out. I just want enough currency to guarantee that character. That's it. Stop making event and dailies a chore. Wuthering Waves seems to follow the same formula, but improved it. I might play that game til I am burned out.
in wuwa it feels more like HSR. energy is reserved over limit, daylies in 5 min (1 quest and 2 runs of domain or just domain with no quest if you got easier tasks), no limitations on what day to farm talents, no need to craft something like condensed resin, just use double energy for double rewards and thats it. Even if you got a crafting task, your alchemy table is in your inventory like in hsr.
Why would I play persona 5 for 200h for no rewards ? It’s just not worth it unlike grinding a gacha for 200h which is gonna give you a ton of pulls and new gameplay opportunities
You play it because it's fun and it's an actual game, gacha games should not be as main games because of how they are designed. Persona 5 does not waste your time while a gacha game does because it is designed to keep you in the rotation.
@@consumedbythe6678 That's because you play Persona as a game to enjoy and not to get stuck in a constant loop of playing gacha games. I can't tell if you're trolling just have top tier gacha brain rot.
I will prefer gacha games over triple AAA title...in the end it all boils down to preference. But I hate triple AAA with all trashy DLC overall. I played nearly all their games except the woke trash. AAA games only give at least 70-100 hrs of their story content and the rest is just replaying the game. To complete most AAA trophy or achievement only takes at least 300-500 hrs. Unlike gacha games the variety is everywhere is just which of the games hook you the most. In the end of the day I will give gacha live services game my money overall. Than the current gen modern triple AAA title since I already know the outcome...Gacha and any live services game give me thousand of hrs to play thru rather than hundred hrs just to collect dust. Elden ring and it DLc, Wukong, Baldur gate 3, cyberpunk 2077 and the rest are just collecting dust. While the gacha game I can rotate my playthrough and still have my content. In the end I leave the game in my own terms
This is such cope to justify a very clear addiction you have. The idea that a game finishes / comes to an end shouldn't be a negative thing to people yet somehow you're making it out to be like it is one? This is what these predatory glorified casinos have done to people. Jesus man.
Stop with your moral high ground. Gaming itself is form of addiction regardless how you put it. I can say the same way the way speak. At least my mental fortitude is unwavering. Unlike some whining trash pretend they are better gamer. I can spend the game in my own terms since I got the funds to do so. Grow up little man. If all you got is your gaming moral standard.
1000 hrs of repeated content recycled over and over ? Like it's cool if they are secondary games. I myself balance a lot of gachas...but there are so many quality AA and AAA games that truly push innovation and are well worth it. Having an end makes the experience even more enriching imo.
Look, I like gacha but I highly disagree. Replayability is not what primarily dictates a great game. The beauty of these games is their transcience. The fact that they end. I feel like you treat video games as mere products with no artistic value. That's probably why your primary standard of what makes them good is just how many times or how long you can consume them like a commodity. Not gonna lie, this comment made me cringe. It's kinda sad.
with due respect, with the videos you have on your channel..., you play like 90% of your time, just HOYO games... you can´t say you play gacha games... you play mostly Hoyo games those games are the worst example, so..., you are still not qualified to say you play gacha games, and assume as if, all gachas were as predatory like HOYO games so no, pls play more games, for at least a month or two Recommendations: Guardian Tales Nikke Fate Grand Order Limbus Company Reverse 1999 Path to nowhere Blue Archive Snowbreak AFK Journey FF7EC Punishing Grey Raven you still need more experience
1:05 - 1:16 and 1:39 - 1:47 are the exact reasons why I got burnt out and quit from gacha as a whole due to its very nature, especially as someone employed working 9-5 you no longer have the luxury to invest time on scheduled daily basis. It is why I have transitioned myself into traditional single player games which does not have any of time restriction game design like stamina system, weekly bosses, battlepasses etc.
I play Gacha games because
1- They are free with frequent content drops
2- Amazing characters, gameplay with really insane lore and story which is why I play them mainly
3- Doesn't take up much of my time with the grind
I am currently playing Genshin since launch, I started HSR in 1.6, ZZZ since launch and WuWa on and off since launch. ZZZ is my favorite of them all and where I actually spend real money.
I think ZZZ (if you don't mind there is little exploration) is Hoyo's best game. I wish the economy was a little less stingy, and that levelling wasn't so expensive, but the game is pretty crisp, the music slaps and the animations of the characters are great - seriously, how cute is Belle!? Couple that with low time investment, a stamina sink, and what's on order is actually fun and the devs actually listen: no more TVs, free Harumasa, and 1.4 really delivered on story ... all in all it's a complete package.
@@John_II Yup not only Hoyo's best game but one of the if not the best Gacha game in the market right now and I have played a lot of gachas before and after Genshin but nothing comes close to the quality and polish that ZZZ has with maybe Reverse 1999 being an exception but it's 2d so it doesn't count the gameplay is boring for my taste but still a lot better than FGO.
I have never spent money on any gachas except buying the monthly pass sometimes but ZZZ is the only game where I actually swiped to get M2 Zhu Yuan and M2 Lighter my two most favorite characters in all of gachas.
@@John_II Just picked up ZZZ a few days ago and it's really impressive. Dropped Genshin for it and satisfied as hell with my current line up of WuWa, PGR, ZZZ and HSR.
If I had to drop another game, It would probably be HSR due to all the Genshin tier yapping.
I don't know how people can handle more than one Gatcha at a time, but Genshin is all I need because its story and characters are great. But I agree the FOMO/sunk cost can be a bit overwhelming at times. Since I started in 3.2 I use Genshin as a coop game I can play with the wife, so that helps with staying engaged as well.
Wow, this video is super high-quality! This deserves waaaay more views!!!
you've nailed it man. truly sunk cost fallacy is what kept me playing these games and I just missed the feeling of playing genshin for the first time.
I get the sunken cost fallacy part and that you miss playing "normal games" - I have that too, but it's such a shame to hear that you quit WuWa but stick with Genshin, cuz honestly WuWa straight up mops the floor with Genshin like crazy in nearly all aspects IMO. WuWa 2.0 is just insane and pretty much the greatest update to a gacha game I've ever experienced and I play(ed) quite a few. I never ever had this much fun playing a gacha game, including every honeymoon phases I had with them before. Playing WuWa 2.0 didn't feel like playing a gacha game at all, but like I was playing a premium full price JRPG or something - I enjoyed the HECK out of Rinascita, man! It's just so good and made Genshin's 5.3 patch look so bad in comparison... And I say all that as a former massive Genshin fan who was heavily invested in that game, but it is losing me more and more now...
You should definitely give WuWa another try!
I totally agree with Rinascita. It's the first time I played a gacha where it felt closer to a AAA non-gacha than gachas like Genshin.
I'm a huge Genshin fan (until I got disillusioned by how greedy and unresponsive the devs are) but I have to agree that with Rinascita, Genshin doesn't offer anything better in almost all aspects at least for me personally. Including story and story-telling. Perhaps the only thing they have is the content and well-built lore due to its years of active service.
I have to say, it's the best gacha patch I've ever experienced as well.
I get you on the fomo, daily checklist downsides. When you get to a point where you're like "I can't be bothered logging in today" and stop playing for a week or two, you'll find that you have no desire to pick it up ever again because all that kept you there was fomo. The only reason I'm sticking with ZZZ and WuWa atm is because I highly value the combat experience.
I stopped playing HSR because it was just kind of way too simple, and pulling the newest units will have you beating content on autoplay. And at that point, if little to zero skill is involved, and I'm pressing two buttons or on autoplay, am I even playing the damn game?
I've also recently become very jaded when it comes to gacha stories. The first incentive will always be to sell you a characters, so everyone that shows up has little to no depth, characterized poorly with no development (Mavuika is the biggest mary sue, jesus...) and villains are morally gray-washed to be as appealing to as wide of an audience as they can. There are no stakes either because they usually never ever risk anyone dying, and if they do die they'll get revived somehow (Fugue lmfaooooo). I can pick up a 2.5/5 YA novel on goodreads and it'll have a better story, character interactions, character arcs than anything you'd find in a gacha games because the monetization method poisons literally everything.
Another issue is that since the product is the character, they can't change the product after purchase. This doesn't just apply to character kits, but also to the character's personality. Imagine your favourite character going through a traumatic event and coming out with a changed personality or perspective. Some people would love this, but a lot of people would be upset that the character isn't the same any more. (Think of all the people who named their daughter after Daenerys from Game of Thrones; her character development sure wasn't received well.)
This is admittedly speculation on my part, and to my knowledge there aren't any laws against having character development unlike with nerfing characters post-launch, but I wouldn't be surprised if the writers and marketing teams are told that they aren't allowed to let a character deviate from their established role too much. With examples where characters did undergo a large change, such as Raiden Shogun or Wanderer from Genshin Impact, the character development happened before the character was first available on banner as I recall.
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tldr: The point of all this is that it's hard to write a good story when you can't do anything with your established characters.
Natlan pretty much made me quit Genshin Impact ngl. Aside from the nation of war really being the nation of dj'ing, dancing, singing and friendships what irked me also was mavuika.
The only thing she couldn't do was paint, and it's stated she commissioned the picture of her family in her room. At the end of the archon quest she decides to learn how to paint, does the job in a single day. She destroys Capitano and Xbalanque, and gets told by the latter how damn perfect of a leader she is. It's like the writers didn't even try to hide how much of a mary sue she is. I was hoping that all of this was to build up to her plans failings due to her arrogance, but nah we don't ever see that. Just really disappointing.
I only play Genshin when new story patches drop because that's the thing I'm actually interested in, I don't do dailies anymore. Same goes for Wuwa right now. When I get all the Characters I like in HSR and ZZZ I'll probably do the same.
I get you man, the feeling of wanting to play a game for what it is. The exploration, discovery, and letting our curiosity leads us. Wuwa 2.0 is the closest thing so far, i genuinely just fly around, visited whatever place im curious about.
I dont even care about the gacha and the quests i just explore and do stupid shits like flying to highest peaks of the map for sightseeing.
You pay to buy a JRPG and experience it, or you pay (way more than you should) to roll a character in a gacha that the story is totally free.
Or you pay with your time doing dailies as you said. It's all a trade off. You need to pay somehow, it just that gachas are inherently more expensive.
In my case, I play 6 gachas, doing dailies everyday, and this is how I see it:
Genshin, Star Rail and Honkai Impact are the 3 games I like the most. Their stories are awesome, and also their characters. I want to roll for them, so I do every content for that.
But even though I also want characters in WuWa and ZZZ, their stories fail to captivate me. I still do dailies most of the time, but I don't use stamina nor do most events.
Girls Frontline 2 happens to be in between these 2 groups. I kinda enjoy the story but I don't play the complicated game modes in its events.
Edit: I forgot to say, no one plays 3, 4 JRPGs at the same time, so of course it would be strange to play 3, 4 gachas at the same time too.
You either choose your 2 main games and focus on that while treating the others as a side enjoyment, or you'll burn yourself.
When Wuthering Wave 2.0 it really felt like a fresh game for me and I was able to ignore the pulling for a while because it was very engaging. In the end you don't need much to enjoy those games.
I agree with you on the banner aspect but even as a daily Genshin, ZZZ, PGR, WuWa [among others...] player and mostly F2P at that, I think it becomes an issue of how far are you trying to push content. Are you trying to clear everything? Are you trying to 36 star abyss and grind out each and every Asterite or max reward even to get the nonesense weapon and skin you know you will never use?
Change your approach to how you play them and if you cant afford to YOLO Credit Card whale, then do yourself a favour and pull for what looks fun and work with what you have. minimise the risk of Gacha FOMO by just... Playing the game.
I play WuWa the way you said you are playing it right now... also if you are feeling burnt out [I Know the feeling] just take a break perhaps it will change how you enjoy the content.
My current and only gacha is GFL2. Love XCOM style games and this is a simple version but with waifus. There’s so many gachas coming out and feel like I need to stop playing them altogether or else I’ll be hooked. I won’t have time to go through my backlog of games if that happens.
I've been playing gachas for like 10+ years now, and I get it. I'm trying to take my time with WuWa because I marathoned my way to Rinascita to get enough pulls for the characters I want, it ended up making me feel exhausted with it. And then I log into HSR and GI and I have nothing to do besides dailies and its... Such a strange feeling. It also makes me feel like gachas burn through my free time to play games and I end up Not playing other "normal" games, but I still can't let go of them.😂
Its sad because if gotcha games were not gotcha games, they would be far more enjoyable, just selling skins or something for monetization like every other game.
On the flip side of the coin, if they were not gotcha games, they wouldn't have the level of revenue available to do all the extremely high-quality trailers/concerts/ etc. that we love them for because gotcha makes far more than skins.
I haven't played any of Genshin's minigame events for like half a year nor any of the Natlan ones. I still treat it like a normal game with the exploration and quests because those are what I still find enjoyable. Definitely don't let the FOMO get to you
I completely understand what you mean by events. There are some like the Beetle Battle in Genshin and the various ones in Azur Lane that don't feel bad because they only take like 5 minutes. But then there are some that are really annoying and just take away from why I started playing Genshin in the first place. There's not even any rhyme to them, they're just whatever the devs feel like doing which makes it even worse.
Honestly as someone who quit wuwa and comeback for the latest update, 2.0 made me hate other gatch games with how amazing it is, but yeah i agree with you playing more then two gatch is ruining your life.
Please give the 2.0 update of wuwa a shot !! I really believe that it could reignite that feeling you're talking about, the new region and the new story are THAT good
I gave it a try and dropped it again. If you have dropped the Wuwa in past - I am afraid it didn't change how I wasn't hooked by it.
I started cutting back on what I do in Genshin, and I enjoy it much more than I used to. I don't like building new characters, so I don't have any reason to spend stamina. Since any new characters I get would need to be built, I just don't get new characters, meaning I don't need to do dailies. A lot of those minigames felt like chores, and since I no longer need stamina or premium currency, I just stopped doing them, too.
Now I just play through the story and do exploration while using the teams I already have built. If I don't log in for a week or two, I've missed nothing.
I've been using this newfound time to get into other games I've been meaning to play. Funnily enough, that's also a Persona game for me. I loved Persona 4, but never got around to 3 and 5, so I decided I'd rather put my time there instead of doing gacha chores.
As someone who started at 1.1 I'm familiar with genshin burnout. My favourite thing to do in genshin is map exploration. Once its done it's not that fun anymore. I did get addicted to the pulling but grinding became a chore. Taking a break for a year and returning when the new region was 4 patches in was great. Sure I missed some free skins and one plot related event, but other than that it didn't feel like I missed that much. I did it two times: first time in Inazuma then returned in Sumeru, played for three months and dropped it until half of the Fontaine map came out. I'm going to drop it again after the last Natlan tribe part of the map unlocks. Then it's a goodbye until 6.3 probably.
I play the Hoyo games only because of the lore and the characters themselves. I absolutely love the world building. I'm a completionist and a lore lover,so I'm out of ALL content right now. Tomorrow in 7 AM (for me) the 3.0 will be out and I'm absolutely going to be there,I wanna know the new lore and etc. (Cloud Piercer 😭). I get what you mean,it just feels like a chore at this point. I forgot about the pulls,turned on "Take the Journey" on the gramophone and just walkedd around reminiscing before 3.0 drops tomorrow at 7 AM.
I played genshin for three years. Than i started seeing that it becomes worse and worse with each update. I droped it before fountaine update, than returned for at least some fountaine. got arlechino (that is there just to power creep and not to introduce something new and fun mechanics) and wriotheslay (that started the path of disrespect. its not even complete character and large part of his gameplay is hidden behind c1). I dropped it again realizing that it goes the wrong way.
Than wuwa came and it was like a breath of fresh air. it had everything we didn't get in GI in 4 years and even more.
I thought i'd return to GI in 5.0. But it was natlan. the nation of greed. I think no explanation is needed for this one.
wuwa 2.0 ❤
I think the reason y so many ppl got burnout is due to playing so many gachas and gachas that consumes ur time a lot, for ex: after u finish GI story, u have to do zzz next, but ur time and focus got consume by GI, so u don't have the motivs to do zzz, which is the problem.
Also another reason is ppl putting all their problems in a gacha game like zzz for example: ppl getting mad due to combat being repetitive and boring in the main story even tho a lot of ppl also hate tvs as well since lauch which made them quit the game and want to removed it entirely.
Edit: Overall this is just my speculation, so if u have more knowledge, feel free to correct me, thanks.
I quit Genshin for the same reasons, but I still play ZZZ and WuWa.
It’s been awhile since I felt that just enjoying the game without thinking about my next new character, those were the good old time of Genshin. This days open world gacha especially have been feeling like a drag and feel bunt out quick probably cause of the farming aspect 😪 Been enjoy turn-based and strategy games more, I get more free time with them (also easier to farm in the background).
I quit GI and WuWa just because of its Size. I think Open World+Gacha is a Terrible Concept. 4.0 Took me 2 Days to fully explore. And not even for Sidequests or something it was all for Oculi and Chests,Puzzles or in Short Currency to Pull. 2 Days of just looking into some online Maps and Run from A to B for another Oculi. And thats not even including the Story or Sidequests which are also 2 Days +. Meanwhile HSR 2.0 took me 1 Day to fully explore,doing the Story and doing all Sidequests.
I usually like Open Wormd Games but usually just for exploring Resons and not because of FOMO cause i might missing 1/20 of a Pull inside a Chest.
These Days my only Gachas i play are HSR and ZZZ cause there i have the Feeling it Respects my Time the most. Daylie Stuff is Done in 5-10 mins, Weekly Stuff is not longer than 15 Mins and once a new Patch comes out its usually around 2-3 hrs of Story and 1 hrs at max to fully explore the new Area.
Pretty sure you can do dailys in wuwa in a 1 min or less in the latest update, and hsr is the last game on earth that respect your time with the bad and unskipiple story they do.
@princeata6335 its just YOUR Opinion. I couldnt care less if you could skip the Story in HSR or not cause i lime it and even read all the Lore Books ingame. So dont assume everyone shares your opinion.
@@princeata6335Wuwa open world are still terribly created compared to most open world games and the side quest are brain meltingly bad
What I did and I dont know if this will help people , is treat them as secondary games. I dont spend more than 20-30 mins on them unless there is something major. Go at your own place and play on your terms.
This is why I enjoy games like heaven burns red and GF2. They have auto battle and other stuff just makes farming so easy. I can just focus on the good stuff and go at my own pace.
I literally stopped playing all the gatchas and focused on silent hill 2 remake and came back able to be bothered to play them again so now if it doesn't look fun I just don't play
By the time Xilonen comes around I would already be burned out. I just want enough currency to guarantee that character. That's it. Stop making event and dailies a chore. Wuthering Waves seems to follow the same formula, but improved it. I might play that game til I am burned out.
in wuwa it feels more like HSR. energy is reserved over limit, daylies in 5 min (1 quest and 2 runs of domain or just domain with no quest if you got easier tasks), no limitations on what day to farm talents, no need to craft something like condensed resin, just use double energy for double rewards and thats it. Even if you got a crafting task, your alchemy table is in your inventory like in hsr.
If you speak about gacha games outside of the gachasphere you will be insulted. You can literally feel the hate for gacha games by non gacha gamers
You kinda look like the singer Chet Faker, I swear you could be siblings!
Why would I play persona 5 for 200h for no rewards ? It’s just not worth it unlike grinding a gacha for 200h which is gonna give you a ton of pulls and new gameplay opportunities
You play it because it's fun and it's an actual game, gacha games should not be as main games because of how they are designed.
Persona 5 does not waste your time while a gacha game does because it is designed to keep you in the rotation.
@ persona 5 wastes my time because after 200h I get no pulls
@@consumedbythe6678 That's because you play Persona as a game to enjoy and not to get stuck in a constant loop of playing gacha games.
I can't tell if you're trolling just have top tier gacha brain rot.
I will prefer gacha games over triple AAA title...in the end it all boils down to preference. But I hate triple AAA with all trashy DLC overall. I played nearly all their games except the woke trash. AAA games only give at least 70-100 hrs of their story content and the rest is just replaying the game. To complete most AAA trophy or achievement only takes at least 300-500 hrs. Unlike gacha games the variety is everywhere is just which of the games hook you the most. In the end of the day I will give gacha live services game my money overall. Than the current gen modern triple AAA title since I already know the outcome...Gacha and any live services game give me thousand of hrs to play thru rather than hundred hrs just to collect dust. Elden ring and it DLc, Wukong, Baldur gate 3, cyberpunk 2077 and the rest are just collecting dust. While the gacha game I can rotate my playthrough and still have my content. In the end I leave the game in my own terms
This is such cope to justify a very clear addiction you have. The idea that a game finishes / comes to an end shouldn't be a negative thing to people yet somehow you're making it out to be like it is one?
This is what these predatory glorified casinos have done to people. Jesus man.
Stop with your moral high ground. Gaming itself is form of addiction regardless how you put it. I can say the same way the way speak. At least my mental fortitude is unwavering. Unlike some whining trash pretend they are better gamer. I can spend the game in my own terms since I got the funds to do so. Grow up little man. If all you got is your gaming moral standard.
1000 hrs of repeated content recycled over and over ? Like it's cool if they are secondary games. I myself balance a lot of gachas...but there are so many quality AA and AAA games that truly push innovation and are well worth it.
Having an end makes the experience even more enriching imo.
You got an addiction man, go touch some grass!
Look, I like gacha but I highly disagree. Replayability is not what primarily dictates a great game.
The beauty of these games is their transcience. The fact that they end.
I feel like you treat video games as mere products with no artistic value. That's probably why your primary standard of what makes them good is just how many times or how long you can consume them like a commodity.
Not gonna lie, this comment made me cringe. It's kinda sad.
with due respect, with the videos you have on your channel...,
you play like 90% of your time, just HOYO games...
you can´t say you play gacha games...
you play mostly Hoyo games those games are the worst example, so...,
you are still not qualified to say you play gacha games, and assume as if, all gachas were as predatory like HOYO games
so no, pls play more games, for at least a month or two
Recommendations:
Guardian Tales
Nikke
Fate Grand Order
Limbus Company
Reverse 1999
Path to nowhere
Blue Archive
Snowbreak
AFK Journey
FF7EC
Punishing Grey Raven
you still need more experience
Hoyo shill
Waifu gacha games are disgusting, still waiting for only husbandos gacha open world rpg so there will bo no waifu gooners there ☺️
one guy opinion
loser