@rojoo3842 i was referring to how many years Guthrie has been playing , me ? I couldn't be 10% ofwhat Guthrie can do , he's forgotten more than i could know
One of the best for sure. And what makes him even better is he is a super nice humble man. I shared a beer with him at Namm one year and he was so down to earth and friendly
@@buwovwitega3723red baron is a Billy Cobham song :) but he does a mean version of it But yeah he has his own songs; to be fair i dont think theyre as easy to digest for the majority of people so i dont blame the op for thinking the way they do
Astounding technique and tasteful licks but he tries to cram in too much and does not use enough space in his playing. Stop showing off on laid back song like this. We already know about your speed and precision
@@OnlyShred It does have perfect timing but musically it doesn't tell a story. And is clearly lacking in space. Fives and other songs and playing of his I do love. This solo leaves you wondering how did he condense all that and add in those risky Indian slides and other risky moves and make it sound metronomically perfect at the same time rather than a piece of music that gets beyond guitar virtuosity. I would rather have heard Robin Trower, Roy Buchanan or Eric Johnson playing on this type of backing or for Govan to play possum more on it . I also love Holdsworth and Shawn Lane for the technical stuff and some of Govan but I feel like Govan tries to people-please too much, like he's patting himself on the back as he plays
@@WetSealTV-eo7bvno one can please everyone... This is a one minute snippet of a larger piece, so this is likely telling the story he wanted to tell at this moment, If you've ever witnessed him live it's like watching angelic presence in plain sight and sound
@@WetSealTV-eo7bvi think were confusing not liking a piece of music with it not telling a story. Nothing wrong with not liking it... but to argue that an artist is showing off and not creating music on that basis i think is silly. You wont connect with every piece of music, its part of the fun of it really. But guthrie is expressing himself, the fast parts are part of his voice, thats the way he talks. Not liking his story doesnt mean hes not telling one tho :)
Guthrie is one of the most skilled guitarists alive but is he influential and is he an innovator? Tim Henson cannot play all the styles Guthrie can play but I think he's more influential. You hear how other guitarist copy him. You could detail how he has this mixed technique with tight rhythmic arrangements, tapping and slides etc. But what can pick out from Govan's playing that is unique and say that it has been influential on other guitarists? Maybe someone can answer this. With Mancuso obviously he is using a bass player-like fingerstyle technique. Pat Metheny had his chorus like sound in jazz and focused on triads and inversions. We Montgomery , octaves. Scofield has a Monk-like angularity mixed with funk elements. Holdsworth had he 4 notes per string and unusual sequence groupings and use of extended scales. Somebody fill me in on what aspects of Govan's playing you could say is influencing other's guitarists playing?
I would argue, guthrie was a key person in reigniting jazz fusion. He was one of the first youtube guitar sensations and he influenced many to take up jazz fusion. I would say, guthrie defo has a signature where he seemlessly blends an authentic blues core with lots of his jazz and shred chops... he basically made us all aware this was possible; that guitar music can be fused in such a way where you can hear all of these touches in the playing while staying in flow... Look up matteo mancuso and mateus asato talking about guthrie... he defo left a mark on the new generation
Govan is a guitarists guitarist. Neil Young is more 'influential', he wrote songs that actually impacted American politics. But he can't play guitar worth a darn. Influence is just one measure of 'greatness'. Govan is flying way over the heads of most casual music listeners. He's like Zappa's 'Black Page'. Even skilled musicians are like WTF even is that?!?!?!
@@davidcooke8005 interesting point. Flying over someone's head might be more a factor of timing... something from a painter like van gogh can fly over someones head until after the artist's death. But the interesting pt you bring up is the literary nature of music (tied to its lyrical content). I guess that power it has as a literary device falls more in the realm of literary analysis, but it has to be recognized nonetheless; Mao's cultural revolution was partially based on the idea that music and art's literary content had to be objectified by the people as serving the public interest and anything that was deemed otherwise was destroyed or rejected. On the otherside, the market deems any lyrical content viable, so long as it makes money, partially resulting in an emphasis on lowest common denominator or shock value lyrics in most modern music... i guess trying to find a balance between those is the trick
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Remember kids, if you practice 25 hours a day for 25 years... you still won't be this good.
25, try over 40 years at least
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@@MarkSmith-jo2bf GUTHRIE is 110%, you will still be at 75%
@rojoo3842 i was referring to how many years Guthrie has been playing , me ? I couldn't be 10% ofwhat Guthrie can do , he's forgotten more than i could know
Incorrect
One of the best for sure. And what makes him even better is he is a super nice humble man. I shared a beer with him at Namm one year and he was so down to earth and friendly
His flow is remarkable. It transcends technique.
Amazing technique without loosing the amazing FEELING
Losing.
@@mojopin70 Sorry. Lost it.
he wouldn't be able to do this without the Itchy & Scratchy shirt
Flatlands again!
Under appreciated genius
He is simply the best ever...
Truly amazing what he can do with 12 notes.
And all the notes in between as well
A nother planet!
Agreed
For me guthrie will always be the only one
Fuuuuuuh-kin hell! 🤯
Best in the world (right now & for awhile now I'd say) Hands down !
flatlands
His pick is so pointy
a very rock composition classically
Great improvisational skills.
Natural born musician, guitarist,can't teach this kind of musicianship...light years ahead of myself,and many,many others!...very jealous☹️
look up Igor Paspalj...
Matteo Mancuso is only 27. How do you explain that one?
Brilliant technical guitarist, shame he can’t write songs like the other greats.
You are not familiar with his Erotic Cakes Album, right?
Funny man 😅..
Waves, Ner Ner, Sevens, and the songs with the aristocrats sweaty knockers, furtive jack,flatlands,Red Baron and the likes are what 😂?
@@buwovwitega3723red baron is a Billy Cobham song :) but he does a mean version of it
But yeah he has his own songs; to be fair i dont think theyre as easy to digest for the majority of people so i dont blame the op for thinking the way they do
Astounding technique and tasteful licks but he tries to cram in too much and does not use enough space in his playing.
Stop showing off on laid back song like this. We already know about your speed and precision
Imo this solo has perfect timing, space and feel it’s very bluesy while also never sounding like something I’ve heard 1000 times before
@@OnlyShred It does have perfect timing but musically it doesn't tell a story. And is clearly lacking in space. Fives and other songs and playing of his I do love. This solo leaves you wondering how did he condense all that and add in those risky Indian slides and other risky moves and make it sound metronomically perfect at the same time rather than a piece of music that gets beyond guitar virtuosity. I would rather have heard Robin Trower, Roy Buchanan or Eric Johnson playing on this type of backing or for Govan to play possum more on it . I also love Holdsworth and Shawn Lane for the technical stuff and some of Govan but I feel like Govan tries to people-please too much, like he's patting himself on the back as he plays
@@WetSealTV-eo7bvno one can please everyone...
This is a one minute snippet of a larger piece, so this is likely telling the story he wanted to tell at this moment,
If you've ever witnessed him live it's like watching angelic presence in plain sight and sound
try to imagine more, im sure you'll find more to that😅
@@WetSealTV-eo7bvi think were confusing not liking a piece of music with it not telling a story. Nothing wrong with not liking it... but to argue that an artist is showing off and not creating music on that basis i think is silly.
You wont connect with every piece of music, its part of the fun of it really. But guthrie is expressing himself, the fast parts are part of his voice, thats the way he talks. Not liking his story doesnt mean hes not telling one tho :)
Guthrie is one of the most skilled guitarists alive but is he influential and is he an innovator? Tim Henson cannot play all the styles Guthrie can play but I think he's more influential. You hear how other guitarist copy him.
You could detail how he has this mixed technique with tight rhythmic arrangements, tapping and slides etc.
But what can pick out from Govan's playing that is unique and say that it has been influential on other guitarists? Maybe someone can answer this.
With Mancuso obviously he is using a bass player-like fingerstyle technique. Pat Metheny had his chorus like sound in jazz and focused on triads and inversions.
We Montgomery , octaves. Scofield has a Monk-like angularity mixed with funk elements. Holdsworth had he 4 notes per string and unusual sequence groupings and use of extended scales.
Somebody fill me in on what aspects of Govan's playing you could say is influencing other's guitarists playing?
I would argue, guthrie was a key person in reigniting jazz fusion. He was one of the first youtube guitar sensations and he influenced many to take up jazz fusion.
I would say, guthrie defo has a signature where he seemlessly blends an authentic blues core with lots of his jazz and shred chops... he basically made us all aware this was possible; that guitar music can be fused in such a way where you can hear all of these touches in the playing while staying in flow...
Look up matteo mancuso and mateus asato talking about guthrie... he defo left a mark on the new generation
Guthrie brought the human aspect back to guitar virtuosos.
Greg Howe and him reignited the jazz/fusiongenre. Without him, I don't think Mancuso would be where he is now.
Govan is a guitarists guitarist. Neil Young is more 'influential', he wrote songs that actually impacted American politics. But he can't play guitar worth a darn. Influence is just one measure of 'greatness'. Govan is flying way over the heads of most casual music listeners. He's like Zappa's 'Black Page'. Even skilled musicians are like WTF even is that?!?!?!
@@davidcooke8005 interesting point. Flying over someone's head might be more a factor of timing... something from a painter like van gogh can fly over someones head until after the artist's death.
But the interesting pt you bring up is the literary nature of music (tied to its lyrical content). I guess that power it has as a literary device falls more in the realm of literary analysis, but it has to be recognized nonetheless; Mao's cultural revolution was partially based on the idea that music and art's literary content had to be objectified by the people as serving the public interest and anything that was deemed otherwise was destroyed or rejected. On the otherside, the market deems any lyrical content viable, so long as it makes money, partially resulting in an emphasis on lowest common denominator or shock value lyrics in most modern music... i guess trying to find a balance between those is the trick
Cant even play in key
Do you not have ears ?
@@OnlyShred I'm classically trained and have perfect pitch. Guthrie and bassist are playing in two different keys.
@@bridgetgidget1446 it’s jazz 😐
@@bridgetgidget1446 he’s also using a lot of outside notes
@@OnlyShred It's fake jazz. Only jazz song Guthrie knows is Donna Lee and he plays it like an amateur.
I knew it had to be a solo on Flatlands. Some of the most tasty Guthrie licks are on his improvs over Flatlands