Ah, Dragon Ogres! The best Ogres, the Kings of Ogres and Dragons, before there were Ogres and Dragons! Those big monster things that Kibs would have fought if he hadn't wanted to fight the glorified Chaos Dwarf Manticore rip-off, that can fly. I don't know whether its a better or worst option, lol. Oh, speaking of walls, Arch. Kholek Suneater was larger than Praag's great walls, and his hammer smashed through them allowing Archaon's predecessor to just... walk on in. So some of the big boys can do more than climb!
Campaign idea: A dragon ogre sleeps underneth a town in some caves. A bunch of culists tries to wake him up. The players find a mystical tome with the lightning spell. In the climax the dragon ogre wakes up and promises to let the players live if they feed him lightning.
the only thing I'd say is make the storming of the hideout be a hush hush thing that the guards don't know about but the lord does. Because otherwise the solders can and will roll cannons down the streets to deal with this thing if they are able to run away Edit: nevermind, thought you said city, not town. any Empire town would have some things to deal with heavy hitters, but thats a ballista mounted on a wall, not cannons which can be moved
Hey Arch, you mentioned a Particular Dwarf and his Human Companion. Might we be getting a video on them sometime in the future? I’ve started listening to the Audiobooks and absolutely laugh my ass off at their adventures!
It's a made up word based on Latin. So no in no way. Arch=ark like it does both in real life and any other time it appears in 40k see archon, architect, etc...
Greetings! Preiss algorithm gods! Finaly good dragon ogres video on youtube! One of strongest and coolest units it warhammer! And Krakanrok the Black friking slept when end times chapend.... best idea ever !
Hm? I'm pretty sure the Dragon Ogres struck their deal cause they were dying out. The Dragons ruled the old World, and were mortal enemies of the Dragon Ogres. THe dragons are equal in age to the Dragon Ogres, and likely there are emperor dragons who match the age of the the oldest Dragon Ogres. It was said the Dragons ruled entire *Empires* and held court and battle among themselves not unlike the Kings of the Old World. Hence why the Dragon Ogres needed the Dark Gods to give them immortality. Heck the dragons even have the same Dreamscape, It's implied in some of the High Elf books that all the dragons are connected in the dreamworld and that they relish going there, so much so that mountains grow over them.
Man I remember back in End Times, my 21 Asur Spearelves held off 5 of these suckers and took only 3 casualties (Loec was with my rolls) and stabbed down 3 of their number... right before Valten caved in Archaeons skull.
@@alithanar8 still cant beliefe the noble skaven allied with chaos and not with the empire during the endtimes, i mean when they go nuts then the proper way.
@@alithanar8 Dark elves, high elves or wood elves. All elves are arrogant evil pricks that need a good hammering in their face. And we noble and proud dwarfs will deliver them justice for shaving the beards of the dwarven diplomats.
Their remains seem to not rot, a chunk of dragon ogre claw has been sitting out in the elements for millenia in a village in the empire and it hasn't deteriorated one bit and in AOS, they forge their weapons out of their own scales
I'm already confused. So the Gods did lie to them. They were promised they would never die, which they did. They were promised they would never stop growing and yet the current day Dragon Ogres are supposed to be much smaller than the first of their kind. That's also a really weird gift from Tzeentch. Of all the gods he'd be the one to grant them complete stagnation and decay.
You know Arch, since you have a Warhammer Rp campaign running (despite the Canadian) why don't you do a lore video for the things that the players and viewers are encountering. It would be great for the new guys as well as the regular viewers.
I can just imagine two Imperial soldiers just sitting there trying to figure out some way to make a bigger Pike and then here comes to savage Orcs with their giant spear. Yeah that should work just fine. I still just find that too funny that the only advancement of technology for Savage orc was to just make a bigger spear🤣
The dragon ogres need a good lawyer, they might get out of fighting FOR the chaos gods. In staid, they could come (when calles) and fight their wars. Doesn't say what side however? If shalia or Myrmidia or another god feels like taking them under their wing I think some of them genuinely could get out of the dominion of Chaos. Or at least not be slaves to darkness, but go down swinging against the gods that cursed them
2:15 - The one with the feathered a##? | 5:10 - Ah yes, you mentioned him when you did the lore video on the Warhammer Fantasy version of Anakin Skywalker. | 13:10 - Well, Khorne cares not from wence the blood flows, only that it flows. | The Dragon Ogre would probably ask themselves "How do I know this?!"
@jay frost Not personally that's why I'm here now lol, I know better then to trust a deal with the Horned Arch and his plague skaven. I support by buying shirts now and then instead haha.(was hard to pass up the no Heretics allowed kreig shirt.)
Really great work Arch I don't know as much as I'd like to about the old world, and these single topic videos are a really fun and engaging way to learn about it Thanks
The very definition of "Better, not more", although the Dragon ogres themselves might not enjoy it that much... Then again, there ARE advantages to being both immortal AND never being able to have children... Just saying!
Beats of the old world? Dread saurian? Carnosaur? Estegadon? Ha? Ha? Oh, and didnt dragonogres ask for help to the chaos gods coise they were fucke by the old ones? Or did i smoke that
Inmortality as described here would include either never dying or reincarnating if they did for some reason died, possibly also regeneration, seems that the end result mentioned here Arch was making them "Eternal" not "Inmortal" as unable to die. Also are they reincarnated into the Chaos Wastes or Chaos Realm if they are killed? or could they actually be wiped out.
See I always thought the dragonogres made the deal with cause God's out of desperation. The Old once were moving the world and changing the climate, this change in climate could have started wiping out the dragonogers which is why they made the deal for immortality.
So, why wouldn't chaos want these things to create more of themselves? Seems like Chaos got the short end of the stick by ensuring they can't get more of them for their wars.
Arch has deleted a lot of his previous material so it shouldn't be too difficult for him to rerelease/remake his old uncontroversial videos (such as the gods of humans).
Meanwhile in Total War Warhammer:
Dragon Ogre: We used to be kings! Rulers of this world!
Chaos Lord: *YOU! ARE! A! BATTERING RAM!* Now get to work!
"Towers and rams. Towers and rams."
@@harbl99 i remember this from somewhere lol
Why would you use any Chaos Lord but Kholek Suneater?
@@Sothpawman the need for more armies
@@jacobburch7555 a very popular review of TWW2
Reminder of this video: never bargain with Tzeench, because he can add font 0.5 notes between the lines
He'll he doesn't even need to do that I'm personally convinced that most insurance and used car salesmen are followers of tzeentch.
Doesn’t everyone carry a contract magnifying glass with them at all times?
Dont forget the Immaterium typefont, which most mortals cant see or comprehend.
All subject to change without notice
It only uses 0.5 size font on the things it wants you to find.
I wonder why I cannot help but think this is ment for the audience and for 4 little skavens who might be a bit optimistic
Tzeentch: I will bring CHANGE
Also Tzeentch: Except for the Dragon-Ogres
Guess he figured he'd change his MO.
Hope you'll do more of these videos in the future. Imagine a video on the Jabberslythe
Ohh man I can only hope.
Arch should call the series "Wonderful beasts and where to find them"
Just because.
In Warhammer beasts find you and it is not going to be wonderful if they do so
@@phreakazoith2237 I'm sure there's plenty of Slaanesh worshippers who'd beg to differ.
Horrible beasts and how to avoid them
Terrifying beasts and how they find you.
And this is Arch once again being the nicest and most generous DM in all of Scandinavia.
Does anyone else miss the old music from arch's first Warhammer fantasy videos, that music plays in my mind every time I think of chaos warriors
"Why are you thinking about Chaos do much son....." ask while sharpening spear head.....
Anomalie from Kevin Macleod, if anyone asks.
@@theblancmange1265 I have been wondering this for years thank you
@@Kevc00 He had the music in the description for most if not all of those videos. Unlike today.
Ah, Dragon Ogres! The best Ogres, the Kings of Ogres and Dragons, before there were Ogres and Dragons! Those big monster things that Kibs would have fought if he hadn't wanted to fight the glorified Chaos Dwarf Manticore rip-off, that can fly. I don't know whether its a better or worst option, lol.
Oh, speaking of walls, Arch. Kholek Suneater was larger than Praag's great walls, and his hammer smashed through them allowing Archaon's predecessor to just... walk on in. So some of the big boys can do more than climb!
and in twwh he is only as big as them, perhaps even only as big as the gates.
@@jacobhederstrom8198 True, its a shame. According to the lore, his head is quite a bit higher than the wall itself.
Dosent make sense to my why ssench haven't made his most loyal fertile for a little to get a few more the completely infertile make little sense to me
@@jameswilliams2075 Are you really expecting logic from Tzeentch?
@@akakios7386 he's intelligence and magic so at least some
Inclement weather is bad news in the real world. Inclement weather in Warhammer fantasy is really bad news.
☄⚧🧞♀️🌋🌩⚡❄🔥🌊🌌🌀
Campaign idea: A dragon ogre sleeps underneth a town in some caves. A bunch of culists tries to wake him up. The players find a mystical tome with the lightning spell. In the climax the dragon ogre wakes up and promises to let the players live if they feed him lightning.
the only thing I'd say is make the storming of the hideout be a hush hush thing that the guards don't know about but the lord does. Because otherwise the solders can and will roll cannons down the streets to deal with this thing if they are able to run away
Edit: nevermind, thought you said city, not town. any Empire town would have some things to deal with heavy hitters, but thats a ballista mounted on a wall, not cannons which can be moved
@@robrib2682 dragon ogres can and have shrugged off direct cannonball hits before
Arch: "The best way to defeat Dragon Ogres? … Pikes and cannons."
Me: (Laughs in Nuln)
Well, granted, dragon ogres are specifically stated to be able to shrug off cannonballs to the chest
Arch's way of saying
"5 minutes before disaster"
Dragon Ogres: Do we want to cut a deal with Tzeentch who offers us immortality or with Slaneesh who offers us immorality?
we don't need dragon ogres with the proclivities of the fimir
Hey Arch, you mentioned a Particular Dwarf and his Human Companion. Might we be getting a video on them sometime in the future? I’ve started listening to the Audiobooks and absolutely laugh my ass off at their adventures!
dew it
Grimgore would probably love the chance to get one of those choppas. >:D
You only made this video to scare the RP team, didn't you?
When a Mommy dragon and an Orc daddy love each other verry much....
It's not dragonorc its dragonOGRE
Why ogre no eat dragon to increase gut size?
When you see an orc humping a mountain
@@_OliverGrey When you see an Ork humping anything since they reproduce by fighting.
#BlameSlaneesh
@@VioletDeathRei hump-fu, the art of impregnation combat
Dragon Ogres eat lighting? Do they crap thunder?
If Arch keeps mispronouncing “Archaon” I’m going to start a Black Crusade.
Seriously, it’s “Are-kay-on”.
It's a made-up name every single audiobook pronounces differently.
It's a made up word based on Latin. So no in no way. Arch=ark like it does both in real life and any other time it appears in 40k see archon, architect, etc...
Greetings!
Preiss algorithm gods!
Finaly good dragon ogres video on youtube!
One of strongest and coolest units it warhammer!
And Krakanrok the Black friking slept when end times chapend.... best idea ever !
"Simple right?" When dealing with Tzeentch, that's a big fat NOPE!
Hm? I'm pretty sure the Dragon Ogres struck their deal cause they were dying out. The Dragons ruled the old World, and were mortal enemies of the Dragon Ogres. THe dragons are equal in age to the Dragon Ogres, and likely there are emperor dragons who match the age of the the oldest Dragon Ogres. It was said the Dragons ruled entire *Empires* and held court and battle among themselves not unlike the Kings of the Old World. Hence why the Dragon Ogres needed the Dark Gods to give them immortality. Heck the dragons even have the same Dreamscape, It's implied in some of the High Elf books that all the dragons are connected in the dreamworld and that they relish going there, so much so that mountains grow over them.
Man I remember back in End Times, my 21 Asur Spearelves held off 5 of these suckers and took only 3 casualties (Loec was with my rolls) and stabbed down 3 of their number... right before Valten caved in Archaeons skull.
Man i remember in the End Times when my dwarfs warriors destroyed a unit of elven spearmen. I miss those days :(
@@_OliverGrey Well that just goes to show dwarves are more oathbreaker than elves. Unless they are Druchii then you can go nuts
@@alithanar8 still cant beliefe the noble skaven allied with chaos and not with the empire during the endtimes, i mean when they go nuts then the proper way.
Alith Anar canon ending, convince me otherwise
@@alithanar8 Dark elves, high elves or wood elves. All elves are arrogant evil pricks that need a good hammering in their face. And we noble and proud dwarfs will deliver them justice for shaving the beards of the dwarven diplomats.
It would be interesting if they never rot, since they are in fact permanent, so why would their body’s decay and be removed?
They are used as everlasting materials for weapons and whatnot, therefore little remains are preserved.
Their remains seem to not rot, a chunk of dragon ogre claw has been sitting out in the elements for millenia in a village in the empire and it hasn't deteriorated one bit and in AOS, they forge their weapons out of their own scales
Anyone else think Archaons sword sounds like the screaming sun in Rick and Morty?
I do now.
@@robertnelson9599 Another falls to the dark gods
Reddit go home.
Rick and morty is horrible, if that is not in the first episode or two your trash for knowing what it is....
@@magustrigger9195 You're.
And you've literally never watched it, have you?
Why did I have the vision of a certain group of skaven trying to take down a dragon ogre with warp lighting?
I can hear the sucker laughing 😅
I thought Dragon Ogres and Dragons were the two first race on the the old world. And they war’ed each other.
The Dragon Ogres waged war with the Ogres in the Mountains of Mourn, but not the dragons.
@@robertnelson9599 they fought both
Will we get a Lamassu as well?
I think he already did one a few years ago.
@@insanehippiehippieinsane3828 I don't suppose you know the title? If not, the search begins.
@@zanothium15 I was looking through to tell you and I cannot find it. Arch has had to private a lot of older stuff due to TH-cam BS.
Its in the chaos dwarves Bull centaurs vid
More fantasy lore! Praise the emperor!!
The Emperor Protects.
Praise Karl Franz!
0:21 straping gentleman? watch out for the rule34 of this.
Report back brother xD
I'd imagine a little illicit substances was involved in the creation of the dragon ogers. All while listening to heavy metal.
You want to kill a dragon oger ? Just use dwarf.
Dwarf what? Cannons? Organ guns? Slayer King, perhaps?
Would that be an "Ogre-Slayer" or a "Dragon-Slayer"?
Dwarves:the cheese army
Why i feel that certain skaven group should watch this video.
I'm already confused. So the Gods did lie to them. They were promised they would never die, which they did. They were promised they would never stop growing and yet the current day Dragon Ogres are supposed to be much smaller than the first of their kind. That's also a really weird gift from Tzeentch. Of all the gods he'd be the one to grant them complete stagnation and decay.
Fighting a Dragon Ogre in CQC is suicide!? I KNOW JUST THE GUY!!!!!
Stormcast Eternals, because everything Games Workshop made needed Space Marines.
Can't wait for the Astarties Blood Bowl team.
@@Marinealver I was referring to the Doom Slayer fighting one of these things WWE style like he once did to Angron,
Hope the RP is paying attention to this one.
Eating lightning and crapping thunder wh-style
Man, I almost feel bad for the Dragon Ogres. For they are doomed.
It's been forever since we got a proper Warhammer Fantasy Lore video! And what a beautiful beast to start on. :D
You know Arch, since you have a Warhammer Rp campaign running (despite the Canadian) why don't you do a lore video for the things that the players and viewers are encountering. It would be great for the new guys as well as the regular viewers.
Who's to say he's not doing that here?
In the business, we call this foreshadowing
It's been awhile but always love some fantasy lore
New models of them would be something spectacular to see!
Expansive too 😅
For some reason, I think this video is aimed at a particular person...
Ah good old Warhammer fantasy.
Hopfully you do the Lammasu next ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
Everyone is gangster til the dragon ogre rolls 3 degrees of success and your skaven party dissapears...
Is it me or did he not mention Kholek once in that entire video?
I wouldn't want to meet one. Ogres and dragons are bad by themselves, never mind mixing them.
I can just imagine two Imperial soldiers just sitting there trying to figure out some way to make a bigger Pike and then here comes to savage Orcs with their giant spear.
Yeah that should work just fine. I still just find that too funny that the only advancement of technology for Savage orc was to just make a bigger spear🤣
The dragon ogres need a good lawyer, they might get out of fighting FOR the chaos gods. In staid, they could come (when calles) and fight their wars. Doesn't say what side however?
If shalia or Myrmidia or another god feels like taking them under their wing I think some of them genuinely could get out of the dominion of Chaos. Or at least not be slaves to darkness, but go down swinging against the gods that cursed them
I mean it would be funny to see a actual nice Dragon ogre just taking leisurely strolls through the country side
Aka a zoet
meh in total war warahmmer i need one units of spears with shields and hunters for good measure :)
How topical. I just finished the Skaven rp episode where it was introduced
I remember seeing these guys in my buddies old chaos army book. I was a fan then. I still am now.
Ohhh shiteee yes
What do my tired, old eyes see? A lore video?
How can Dragon Ogres be around longer than Dragons... and Ogres?
2:15 - The one with the feathered a##? | 5:10 - Ah yes, you mentioned him when you did the lore video on the Warhammer Fantasy version of Anakin Skywalker. | 13:10 - Well, Khorne cares not from wence the blood flows, only that it flows. | The Dragon Ogre would probably ask themselves "How do I know this?!"
Oh, thank the God Emperor, a clear cut video with obvious bad guys! after the whole badab thing i really missed that.
It's up, also first
Yes Witch Hunter, the one named Balevolt..
@jay frost Channel members get to see the video early and thus get to make the first comments.
@jay frost Not personally that's why I'm here now lol, I know better then to trust a deal with the Horned Arch and his plague skaven.
I support by buying shirts now and then instead haha.(was hard to pass up the no Heretics allowed kreig shirt.)
@jay frost Well in this case Subscribestar demons
Really great work Arch
I don't know as much as I'd like to about the old world, and these single topic videos are a really fun and engaging way to learn about it
Thanks
12:55
how about Armored fist ?
Or , my personal favorite - Panzer Battalion
Nice to see some more fantasy lore
More Warhammer Fantasy lore. YES!!! I love it! Thanks Arch.
For the algorithm...
For the algorithm Gods*
@@VioletDeathRei blasphemy...
Wernt the dragons themselves also around before the old ones showed up?
I suddenly want to see a Dragon Ogre fight a Lynel.
The very definition of "Better, not more", although the Dragon ogres themselves might not enjoy it that much... Then again, there ARE advantages to being both immortal AND never being able to have children... Just saying!
Really, the biggest downside seems the whole servitude thing.
Is there an Algorithm post already?
0:38 Because “breathe fire” isn’t quite as pedal-to-thy-metal and balls-to-thy-wall as “eat lightning” now is it? ⚡️⚡️⚡️
I missed these. Thanks man.
Beats of the old world? Dread saurian? Carnosaur? Estegadon? Ha? Ha?
Oh, and didnt dragonogres ask for help to the chaos gods coise they were fucke by the old ones? Or did i smoke that
Inmortality as described here would include either never dying or reincarnating if they did for some reason died, possibly also regeneration, seems that the end result mentioned here Arch was making them "Eternal" not "Inmortal" as unable to die.
Also are they reincarnated into the Chaos Wastes or Chaos Realm if they are killed? or could they actually be wiped out.
See I always thought the dragonogres made the deal with cause God's out of desperation. The Old once were moving the world and changing the climate, this change in climate could have started wiping out the dragonogers which is why they made the deal for immortality.
Makes me think choosing not to fight the Dragonogre was the right call.
I just finished putting together an Ork army for 40k. Time to break out the Big Stabba!
So, why wouldn't chaos want these things to create more of themselves? Seems like Chaos got the short end of the stick by ensuring they can't get more of them for their wars.
I am here for your knowledge man thing, yes-yes!
I'm really happy to see you doing more fantasy again, Hope you can get around to doing some more Chaos Dwarf content.
More Lore? thank you!
Question for Arch what would warp lightning do? Would it be like some super powerup or not? Also has it ever been done before.
If magical lightning powers them up like normal lightning, why would warp lightning be any different?
Does anyone else think it’s weird that they were made infertile? Like you have this awesome beast but now you’ll only ever lose more and more of them.
Love me some oldhammer, hope to see more in future
I thought you were reserving this channel for 40k and not WHF trash.
I've missed the warhammer fantasy content !
Arch has deleted a lot of his previous material so it shouldn't be too difficult for him to rerelease/remake his old uncontroversial videos (such as the gods of humans).
I miss the warhammer fantasy setting.
@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 same
Dragon ogers are the oldest???
what about the dragons
Dragon-oger implies things
Dragon Ogers are some of the coolest monsters in Warhammer. Glad you included on in your RPG.
I noticed that in the best ways to kill one, you didn't list "4 retarded skaven"
He a big boy, need lots hugs and love.....you can love the violence out of them like you do with pitbulls
Haven't been this early since my birth
00:50 Yea, those front legs won't support that weight.
Neat! I loved video , more please , Thank u.
Holy shit I didn't think arch did fantasy lore at all anymore lol. Love it arch thank you!!
what about aviation? archers mounted on of flying creatures - pegasi, manticores, flying carpets?
This video feels like it was made specifically for the skaven campaign
Finally back to making normal videos again. Took long enough
Dragon Ogre Chaos Knights.
Change my mind.
Are there Dragon orgers in AOS or did Sigmar and Gorkamorka kill them all?
Yes they are in AOS. I think they are an e tire choS faction with nothing but dragon levee in it.
I don’t know Calard cut ones head off with his sword so he must be god