This is a great comparison. One point of analysis that I agree is missing from car audio cable is the temp ratings. Typical welding / battery cable has 105C rating which I suspect is much higher than car audio cables.
EC = european community (old naming for what is today the european union) Thanks for the video! I used welding wire in my first ever install, like 10+ years ago, mainly because the price of "dedicated" amp wire was insane back then. I'm researching for my current car install, and got to you clip :) I'm definitely going for welding wire.
Thanks for this video. It definitely helped me understand. This welding wire I intend to use for power grid as in my country Pakistan we don't have 50mm2 and above cables available easily and so we have to rely on Welding wires for our needs. Definitely thanks for this video :).
There is a difference between class M and class K welding wire too. Class M has smaller strands and is even more flexible, it is also rated to carry more amperage with a more durable sheath.
Raw cat. A fellow wire aficionado. Just watched an absurs video of a guy burning the jacket on power wire saying how much better welding wire is, and read your comments on his misleadingly titled video.
That welding cable looks to be quite cheap as its flexibility is restricted, decent welding cable is very flexible. as you say the spec sheet will tell you the number of strands and it will vary depending on the grade, also welding cable comes in double insulated for even more insulation....
main reason of tinning + hair thin stands in "audio" wire is to sell you as less copper as possible ) more surface area = more tin. so this "OFC" wire is mostly tin actually.
Is the welding wire something that welders may have scraps laying around to give away? Or what they have lasts a long time and they wouldnt have un needed amounts laying around❓
One last thing - If you could test the electrical conductivity/ Voltage drop across these cables, we'll get to know if Stinger literally makes any sense at all !!
This is a great video but you really only compared one level of audio cable to welding cable. There is oxygen-free cable or ofc for audio as well. But yes, one of your only really delivering power you really only need To worry about amperage ratings and possibly temperature rating. If you're installing this close to any heat inside of your engine compartment. Most of us will be having minimum wiring inside the injured compartment, so temperature rating really isn't an issue.
@@barbiegamaestan456well, that "plating", considering how thin the individual strand is, is basically gonna be the whole cross section of the wire. I didn't see no copper in that stinger wire tbh
You are absolutely right, apologies for that. You are the first person from 4900 that watched this video to tell me this. My video editing skills were very poor at that time.
@@RAW-CAt No need to apologise you're making videos for us for free, I just thought it was funny. I was wearing headphones you might miss it on speakers.
@@RAW-CAt well anything under an ounce we just add butter..because grams is rather small. Plus as an added bonus, the butter gives copper a smoother response..doesn't sound like the tinned stuff.
This is a great comparison. One point of analysis that I agree is missing from car audio cable is the temp ratings. Typical welding / battery cable has 105C rating which I suspect is much higher than car audio cables.
Again one more video where I learnt something. Thank you for making such video.
EC = european community (old naming for what is today the european union)
Thanks for the video! I used welding wire in my first ever install, like 10+ years ago, mainly because the price of "dedicated" amp wire was insane back then. I'm researching for my current car install, and got to you clip :) I'm definitely going for welding wire.
Thanks for this video. It definitely helped me understand. This welding wire I intend to use for power grid as in my country Pakistan we don't have 50mm2 and above cables available easily and so we have to rely on Welding wires for our needs. Definitely thanks for this video :).
There is a difference between class M and class K welding wire too. Class M has smaller strands and is even more flexible, it is also rated to carry more amperage with a more durable sheath.
Raw cat. A fellow wire aficionado. Just watched an absurs video of a guy burning the jacket on power wire saying how much better welding wire is, and read your comments on his misleadingly titled video.
I literally just watched that video before coming to this one
That welding cable looks to be quite cheap as its flexibility is restricted, decent welding cable is very flexible. as you say the spec sheet will tell you the number of strands and it will vary depending on the grade, also welding cable comes in double insulated for even more insulation....
main reason of tinning + hair thin stands in "audio" wire is to sell you as less copper as possible )
more surface area = more tin. so this "OFC" wire is mostly tin actually.
Is the welding wire something that welders may have scraps laying around to give away? Or what they have lasts a long time and they wouldnt have un needed amounts laying around❓
Doubt it. It's not a consumable. Everybody buys only what they need.
One last thing - If you could test the electrical conductivity/ Voltage drop across these cables, we'll get to know if Stinger literally makes any sense at all !!
Stinger lists the strand count on their site
This is a great video but you really only compared one level of audio cable to welding cable. There is oxygen-free cable or ofc for audio as well. But yes, one of your only really delivering power you really only need To worry about amperage ratings and possibly temperature rating. If you're installing this close to any heat inside of your engine compartment. Most of us will be having minimum wiring inside the injured compartment, so temperature rating really isn't an issue.
Has aluminum carry heat.
How many watts rms have your system in total in order to use 35 mm welding cable? Thanks
My amplifiers have much more power available than I need. All combined on max volume probably around 1000W.
Thanks for replying. My system will be about 2k watts rms so I will need to run 50 mm cable rated to 300 amps or so
If you want to compare cables, you have to make temperature rise test.
you can use copper car audio cable not all are aluminum
Stinger seems to use some sort of alloy, not pure copper.
It's pure copper. Tin plated for corrosion resistance in car.
Can you still solder stinger wire
@@barbiegamaestan456well, that "plating", considering how thin the individual strand is, is basically gonna be the whole cross section of the wire. I didn't see no copper in that stinger wire tbh
Can we use welding wire for car amplifier?
Yes, I use welding wire exclusively.
u cant say Audio Cable has more resistance and other not, without testing the actuall resistance.
A video talking about audio and there is no sound on the left channel.
You are absolutely right, apologies for that. You are the first
person from 4900 that watched this video to tell me this. My video editing skills were very poor at that time.
@@RAW-CAt No need to apologise you're making videos for us for free, I just thought it was funny. I was wearing headphones you might miss it on speakers.
Welding wire ftw! Grams in America are "grams". 😉
I thought you are using ounces and butter sticks😁
@@RAW-CAt well anything under an ounce we just add butter..because grams is rather small. Plus as an added bonus, the butter gives copper a smoother response..doesn't sound like the tinned stuff.
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