Kimber Ultra Carry II malfunction update
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มี.ค. 2023
- An update from the last video I uploaded going over the malfunctions i was experiencing using my new Kimber Ultra Carry II. Even after sending it back to Kimber to have the feedramp polished I was still experiencing issues. But decided to clean and lubricate it really good and give it one more chance and these are the results of that outing.
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Shooting into a giant pile of rocks probably isn't a great idea young buck
That is a legal shooting spot thousands of people shoot at this spot every month it's on DNR property everyone who owns guns in my area shoots there, not once have I heard of a ricochet hitting anybody shooting at that spot. It was the first place I was taken to go shooting and I have personally shot probably 20,000 rounds into those rocks and have yet to even hear the whistle of a ricocheting bullet. Plus the fact that the rocks are porous and break on impact from bullets plays a major factor in why this is a legally allowed shooting spot on department of natural resources land. And one of the very few legal shooting spots that is still open in my area. But I appreciate your concern
@counterstrike2A used to be legal to beat your wife and kids with anything smaller than the diameter of your thumb 👍 still don't make it a good idea lol 😆. Good luck to you.
I agree. You go shooting rocks, you're liable to anger the big rock monster. Ever watch Never Ending Story? Yea. Big rock guy like that.
Yeah, that made me cringe. Never saw a range like that.
Good to see that it's doing what it was intended to do 💯💯
🙏 Thanks, me to!
Really glad to see it’s functioning properly for you, my thoughts were magazine issues then ammunition.
Thanks me to. However I am definitely very disappointed that I had to send it back to Kimber to get the feed ramp polished in the first place... I would have thought this being the most expensive gun I've purchased so far that I wouldn't have issues like this, especially considering the $500 1911 that I got 7 years ago. Still to this day hasn't had any malfunctions and that thing was made by American tactical imports. Go figure lol
I have an Ultra Carry II also. I've used nothing but Tripp magazines. Never a hiccup.
Well after I sent mine back to Kimber to have the feed ramp polished. I haven't had any issues anymore as well. I also have talked to probably close to 80 other people who have had the same issues as me and some even worse malfunctions. So I wish I would have gotten a gun as reliable as yours. But unfortunately not every gun can come out working perfect so consider yourself lucky
I have one of these back at Kimber right now. It exhibited the same issues as yours. I'm confident that it will return running just fine. These little 1911's can be very finicky and I knew that going in, so I had no problem returning it for tweaking. Continued good luck with yours!
Thanks! Same to you! I'm in Washington State and they had mine repaired and shipped back to me in a week exactly so hopefully you get yours in a timely manner. I'm going to send you the link to the first video I made on these malfunctions showing how often it was happening. This was also before I started heavily lubricating it before each use. That seemed to be the difference for me that and of course Kimber polishing the feed ramp when I sent it back to them. th-cam.com/video/qZGql_IMBSc/w-d-xo.html
The video also includes a screenshot of the invoice Kimber sent back with my handgun showing all of the repairs and work they performed on it they even refinished the Barrell removing a blemish that I didn't discover when originally purchasing it, so that was unexpected and much appreciated
@@counterstrike2A I watched all of your videos to see if I was having the same malfunction (I was). Your vids were very helpful.
@@buggin1951 Thank you for the feedback 🙏 glad to be of assistance. If you haven't subscribed already, you should cuz I'm planning on making a disassembly and cleaning tutorial video on this Kimber ultra carry two here in the next month or so. As well as other videos. I try to upload once a month if I'm able to but being busy working full time it's hard to meet that schedule but I do my best. Thanks again for your kind words and for supporting my channel. Have a great rest of your day
Don't be so sure. Mine's been back twice. Needs to go back again, but I don't see the point anymore.
I have the Ultra CDP II and it works flawlessly. In 1970 I purchased a Browning Hi Power that was occasionally jamming until I switched to Remington ammo. It has run perfectly since then. Your Kimber could be finicky as to brand/ bullet weight.
When I sent it back to Kimber for inspection they ended up performing work on it the main repair being they polished the feed ramp so I think I just was unlucky and got a defective handgun cause since then it has been performing allot better
You should try strike hold for cleaning and lubricant…
I bought an old used one and it’s worked flawless. I hope you oil yours kimbers are known for having tight mechanics. No loose slop in those things
In the video I say that since I started heavily oiling and lubricating it before range trips that has since fixed the problem
@@counterstrike2AI agree a semi auto dry is not good. My Ar 15 loves to run wet. I found lightly oiling and then wiping off any excess doesn’t work on my firearms. Oil is a guns best friend and it help cleaning a weapon much easier. I don’t live in the Sahara dessert so I’m not worried about sand and dirt.
Bill Wilson of Wilson Combat has a good bid on lubricating 1911s.
It is a beautiful little pistol it is a shame to see it having issues, I will look for something else
Not sure if your only in the market for a 1911 or a compact but my most recent purchase was an m9 Beretta and I'm absolutely loving that handgun
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Feed issues are always mag related. I bet you had some curled tips on a mag or 2 that just didn't agree with that ramp. If they hold the cartridge tight too far out, you get stumps like that where the round noses into the ramp and stops. If they're loose, they lose control of the round too quickly and it can start to flip up too far and jam with a tilted cartridge. Tight ones will break in, loose ones will need bent or tossed, depends on what's out of spec.
1911 runs wet real wet. They can be dirty but they need oil. My ultra carry 2 in 9mm and 45acp has run 800 rounds before cleaning but oiled after 150 to 200 rounds. Grab that ultra carry this side of white knuckle grip small pistols need that. Showed this to couple dozen shooters and their problems went away.
… awesome (congratulations)
Bought an Ultra Carry and a Micro 9 at the same time. Couldn't get either one to function reliably. Tried Wilson, Chip Mcormick, Pro Mag, Colt, and S&W mags to no avail. Traded them off and will never buy another Kimber. I don't play the "send it in for repairs" game 'cause at that price point you shouldn't have to.
Armscor jams my Kimber Ultra carry cdp all of the time.
Yeah switching to Remington & blazer brass definitely seemed to helped along with keeping it overly lubricated as well
Try wilson combat mags seems like has fixed that problem for some people
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It’s a shame they’re having issues with the newer ones. I have a much older one that has never given me any problems
Yeah, from what I heard from somebody who has a family member who worked for Kimber, their Yonkers manufacturing facility was shut down in New York and apparently quality control decreased greatly after they announced that the impending closure and my firearm just so happens to be stamped that it was made in that very manufacturing plant. I could see why that would happen too. If you knew you were going to get laid off and your factory was closing down, you probably wouldn't be paying great attention to detail or wouldn't have a large amount of pride in the quality of work you were putting out. At least that's what I have come to learn through someone's speculation. Don't know if that's true, but it does sound like they're newer products haven't been passing. Very good quality control lately that's for sure
Never a problem with mine.
Consider yourself lucky
I'd say that 99 out of 100 issues with Kimber 1911s are magazine related. Get some Wilson Combat, Chip McCormick or even Kim Pro mags and use them exclusively. That's what I run in ALL my 1911s, Kimbers included.
All I've used with my Kimber is the magazine that came with it and Kimber pro mags, but I plan on trying some Wilson combat mags out been meaning to get online and buy some
If you're going to use them in a compact pistol be sure to get the right size. Wilson mags use better/stronger springs plus a polymer follower which virtually guarantees positive cycling and feeding. Midway, Brownells and of course Wilson themselves all carry them for about $35 or so each.@@counterstrike2A
Just ordered 2 compact Wilson combat mags last night 1 stainless steel 1 black polymer and they both have 8 round capacity I was pleasantly surprised about that. I'll be making a video on them after properly testing them out and putting them through some rounds hopefully they do the trick $90 for both of them so got my fingers crossed
I believe the owners manual says the gun requires a 500 round break in period cleaning and lubricating every 100-150 rounds.
I've put over 2,000 rounds through mine and clean it after every trip to the range
Wtf lubricating every 500 rounds sounds like too much work
Too much work? I would think if you owned a premium $1,000 handgun you would try to do everything you could to keep it in the best working condition possible. After you've done it enough times you can do it in literally 20 minutes or less. Just take some practice and some determination
You should use 124 grain ammo
I just bought one I love it. You have a problem sometimes feeding with some of the junk ammo
I actually had to ship it back to Kimber and they polished the feed ramp and shipped it back to me. That and using Wilson combat magazines basically fixed the issue
Your shooting a precision weapon that costs with tax and mags over 1,000.00 Not made to shoot wet! Clean, not oily! 500 minimum break in. Wilson combat or kimber mags only, premium ammunition. It's a Kimber. Some men like them tight- you can't be cheap nor sloppy if you want them to fire correctly. And rock chips fly and ricochet!!! IMHO
@jackiemurphey1368 that doesn't negate the fact the handgun was defective and had to be shipped back to Kimber to be repaired and have the feed ramp polished. The only magazines I own are Kimber OEM factory mags and Wilson combat. And when I say wet I mean I clean and lubricate my handgun after every time I take it shooting. And I was well over 1000 rounds before I shipped it back to Kimber.
So chill with the accusatory speculations this isn't a one-time thing. There's thousands of reports of other people having similar issues with their guns from Kimber. Their quality control has declined exponentially over the last 5 years.
@jackiemurphey1368 I also only use oil during the cleaning process after that I wipe away any excess oil and then apply gun grease to the critical moving parts. This isn't my first 1911 my original full size 1911 I've owned for 6+ years and that thing has never experienced any malfunctions tbh pretty sad that a entry level $450 1911 outperforms a $967 after tax Kimber premium 1911
Man. That thing looks pretty much identical to the Springfield ronin emp. Are they made by the same factory and just stamped with a different name?
As far as I know. Kimber just makes their own line of firearms to the best of my knowledge. On the handgun itself it says it was manufactured in Yonkers, New York
Hmmm, I hate to see another Kimber fail video but there's a lot of them it seems. I own a variety of manufacturers and calibers. Never once had issues like I see with these, are you seating you ammo in the mag? palm slap it till its solid is a good habit, is the slide smooth to remove in disassemble? It's a pickie eater ? Best of luck
I had to send it back to Kimber where they proceeded to need to polish the feed ramp after Inspection runs good now
Mine was back in less than one week and runs like a top now.
Mines definitely running better than before but once you get up to 100 rounds or so it starts having issues again once it starts getting gummed up with gunpowder residue. So I found the only way to keep that from happening is to keep it very lubricated. If i plan on shooting more than 100 rounds in one range trip I definitely bring oil with me and that seems to do the trick. I just make sure to always clean it after every time I take it shooting and bring lubrication with me to the range haven't had a chance to shoot it recently because I just got done recovering from a broken wrist in steel plate surgery. But I'm going to take it shooting here very soon and hoping things go smoothly
So i found a used Ultra Raptor II at my LGS for $650 ! My dream gun.Not a scratch on it but had some goofy grips on it.Called kimber and they sent me some zebra wood grips for $52 bucks.ordered some WC mags for it right off the bat cuz of the stories i heard.Well come range day i brought the 2 kimber mags 2 sig mags 2 chip mckormick mags that look just like the factory kimbers,1 mag from my girsan ultimate sc and the 2 wilson top of the line black mags.All were 7 rounders except the sigs for my emperor scorpion carry.Three times on all full mags the results were ,Kimber,girson,McCormack every round fed every time.Sig rounds 6&7 failed to feed all three times,and Wilson Combat would not feed on any mag or any shot without bumping the slide into battery.Weird huh?Are Their top of the line 7 rounders not good for kimbers?The cheap metal mags with metal followers worked flawlessly every time!Super accurate smooth shooting weapon.But why doesnt it like wilson mags?
Not sure what kind of mags you're running, whether they're standard 1911 eggs or not, but the camera ultra carry too doesn't work with standard 1911 mags. They use a smaller magwell for the ultra carry 2. So it's considered a compact 1911 and apparently using a standard 1911 magazine can cause internal damage to the hand gun. So you should only be exclusively using compact 1911 magazines for the ultra carry 2. If You were using just standard 1911 magazines, I could see that being the issue as to why those mags weren't working correctly
Since the raptor is a 3-in compact 1911, I'm assuming same thing goes for it that it can only use compact 1911 magazines just like the ultra carry 2 does
Hope this helps
@@counterstrike2A they were wilson compact elite mags specified for our guns probably over bought myself .
Counterstrike - I think mine performed even worse than yours. Sent it back twice, still has issues! My question to you - even with your insight about keeping it well-lubed, do you feel you can trust it to carry? I can't, and I'm genuinely traumatized to the extent that I can't imagine ever being able to fully trust it, even if I never had another misfire. It's been that troublesome.
It's definitely always on the back of my mind, but I've come to realize it seems to only start having that malfunction after about 100 rounds or so. We're fired through it and the gunpowder residue starts building up on the inside of the feed ramp and chamber. So as long as I always clean it after a day at the range, I feel fairly confident that I won't have any failure to feeds or go into battery. But then again, I also feel confident if that malfunction does occur I can fix it with one quick slap of my palm although at the expensive price point we both paid for what I thought was a high quality premium firearm. We shouldn't even be having this discussion. The thing should be running flawlessly. I put over 6000 rounds through my Glock 17 and never had a single issue with it and that thing was half the price. It's just crazy to me that Kimber keeps consistently putting out products that aren't impeccable
Before ever experiencing these malfunctions I didn't used to carry with one in the chamber but now knowing this malfunction is a possibility. I always carry cocked and locked now so that way I know I can at least get one round off without the possibility of a malfunction occurring. I'm also hopeful that is the round count goes up. Things will get better. At least that's what I'm hoping for lol. How many rounds have you gotten through yours so far?
@@counterstrike2A I laughed out loud at that. The idea of carrying one in the chamber to guarantee at least one Bang! What a state of affairs. Yeah, everything you said about price point is on the money, so to speak. But did you notice the price dropped $200 since Jan? And during an inflationary period? Has to reflect waning sales. Watch for them to discontinue or rename it. Keep posting updates, I'll be curious. But between you and I? I got a lemon, not a firearm.
I've also been getting a lot of comments about trying different magazines such as compact, 1911, Wilson, combat magazines. I currently am not able to try that out at the moment. I actually broke my wrist a month ago and just had a steel plate put in my wrist 5 days ago. So that's pretty low on my priority list at the moment, but that's definitely something I'm going to try in the near future. Cuz as of right now I've only used Kimber magazines the same that came with it from the factory and then the compact 1911 Kimber tack magazines
@@joshuahangtree1560 yeah I feel the same way and actually the last time I checked on Cabela's website it looked like the price that actually gone up. I'm in Washington State so not sure if that has anything to do with it but let me pull it up really quick on their website and see what they have it listed at right now
Unusual grip.....
I agree. I've been working on it. That was my first compact handgun I've ever owned. So kind of taught myself and obviously I wasn't doing it right in the beginning (in this video)but I've gotten better at it
But we all got to start somewhere
@@counterstrike2A whatever works brother! I have a few unusual things going on myself hahahaha...I'm just glad to see some of the next generation showing the old 1911 platform some love on here. She's a beaut. CHEERS!
@@71TFFC yeah definitely my favorite. My first handgun was a full-size 1911 and this Kimber has been on my wish list for the last 6 years. Finally got to get my hands on it. I actually just got done walking down to my car from my shooting spot. Just took my brand new Beretta M9 shooting for the second time!
@@71TFFC and as for the grip lol honestly it didn't work and I've been working on fixing it and controlling the recoil better. But I broke my wrist in April and had to have surgery. Had to have a steel plate put in with 12 bolts on my right wrist. Luckily I'm left-handed but it's kind of like learning how to shoot all over again with a support hand with reduced mobility to it
How is it currently shooting after proper break in has been done?
It's running pretty decent now just seems to start having hiccups if I shoot over 100 rounds at the range. To fix that I found that bring oil and keeping it lubricated If I plan on going over 100 rounds in one session that seems to do the trick
@counterstrike2A what oil are you using? I want one, but am just doing some research. Also, what all mags have you tried?
@@vinceruland9236 I've been using Remington Rem Oil & as for the magazines I have just been using the magazine that came with it and I have also purchased a couple of Kimber tac mags. Plan on trying some Wilson combat mags. The only thing you got to watch out for is since this isn't a standard size 1911 regular 1911 magazines won't work with it. You can only use micro 1911 magazines because apparently there is a difference since the magwell is a different size than a standard 1911
Try different mags - like Wilson Combat, or other aftermarket mags that might work better than the Kimber mags.
In all my KIMBERs i run nothing but Wilson Combat Mags and have not had one problem. This is over approximately a 25yr period!
Try selling it and buying a Glock.
As i commented on your first video, i just couldn't trust the gun with my life. I sold it at a loss. I believe the manual says it takes 500(!) rounds to break in the gun. I sold it at a loss. Too unreliable.
After they polished the feed ramp and making sure to keep it regularly oiled, I haven't really come across any issues that seemed to solve the problem for me, but I can understand your hesitation at trusting that to your life
@@counterstrike2A that's good. They did that for me but it refused to go into battery. There was a 1 or 2mm gap at the front and it just went *click* every other round. I also had continued failure to feed. I was horribly disappointed that they didn't replace it for me. Glad it worked out for you. 👍
Get yourself Wilson Combat 47 mags…problem solved
Yeah for sure I use wilson combat clips in my 1911's feed excellent compared to most others
That mussel flip is huge that can induce poor extraction. You should listen to your viewers, Why the hot ammo.
I quit using that ammo about 8 months ago and started using Wilson combat mags and that did the trick
And also not sure how far you made it through the video but I did send it back to Kimber and they did admit to some defects they polished the feed ramp and also made a couple other repairs and I also fixed my grip
I had a budget 1911 full size and that thing never had any issues with it. It was a American tactical import full-size GI 1911, I spoke to somebody on Reddit who worked at the manufacturing plant in Yonkers New York and he said that quality control for the last couple years they were in operation drastically decreased due to the fact they were shutting the place down and laying off all the employees who worked there. It's definitely not an isolated incident. I have spoken to at least 20 other people who have had the same issues. I've also come to learn that compact 1911s tend to have a lot of issues. But glad I finally got everything in working order
Just picked one up hows she runnin ?
Better than before I sent it to Kimber to get the feed ramp polished but I'm definitely very disappointed with the overall performance considering the $1,000 price. My $450 5" A.T.I. 1911 has never had a malfunction. But this Kimber gave me a real hard time tbh if I could go back in time with the knowledge I have now I would definitely not go with this firearm which is really sad because this was always a gun on my bucket list that I always wanted. It's definitely running better now after learning to keep this thing heavily oiled when shooting that definitely seems to do the trick for me. I haven't had a chance to try yet, but a lot of people are recommended trying different magazines with it such as Wilson, combat compact, 1911 magazines. I just haven't gotten around to purchasing one yet because I actually broke my wrist two months ago and had to have two surgeries, one of which was a steel plate put into my wrist. So I haven't shot it for a couple of months but before breaking my wrist heavily lubricating it before taking it shooting seem to greatly reduce the number of malfunctions but I would still have at least one or two on every outing. So one other thing I heard was any of the kimbers that were produced in the Yonkers New York manufacturing plant seem to have more issues than the other manufacturing plant that produced. Kimber's handguns so that's one thing to look at is if yours is produced in Yonkers then it's more susceptible to having malfunctions. At least that's what somebody told me that had a family member that worked at that Kimber production facility. Apparently they close that production facility down and the last two years they were manufacturing the firearms. They knew the plan was going to close. So apparently the quality of the products they produced went way downhill causing issues such as this one
@@counterstrike2A well i wish i saw this video before spending 1200 on mine havent picked it up yet im in CA gotta wait ill pick up some wilson combats on ebay while i wait though hopefully mine isnt made in yonkers haha and hope your wrist heals up soon playa couldnt resist the size and look of this 1911 though
I know right that's the same reasoning I had when purchasing it lol. Just make sure you get the compact 1911 magazines because apparently standard 1911 magazines will not work with this 1911 being as it is a compact 1911 just something to look out for
@@counterstrike2A picked mine up few days ago ive ran 300 rounds of federal all through wilson combat mags and have had no jams no problems at all
Only shot about 3 mags out of the kimber magazine and it was locking back prematurely its a shame the magazine that comes with the gun is faulty across the board but man it was a pleasure with wilson combat magazine even the 10 round mag ran flawlessly
Not encouraging. I almost bought one today for 1200 bucks. One would think for that price range, they would be reliable. I have owned past 1911s and they all jam. 😢
I have bought a total of 4 glocks now and they are ugly guns, but they dont jam.
Yeah if you're going to spend that kind of money I would recommend Wilson Combat. I personally regret not getting that instead
Might I recommend a M9 Beretta that was the most recent handgun I purchased and I am absolutely in love with that thing. The more modernized version is the 92fs I think that has a picatinny rail on the bottom to attach a laser or flashlight
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They also have a 15 round capacity with 9 mm Luger. If you don't live in a state like mine that limits your magazine capacity to 10 rounds Washington State.......
@counterstrike2A that would be a great idea, but I am looking for an edc. My edcs are glock26, sw shield, xd9, and I almost pull the trigger on a kimber ultra carry. Last month I bought a kimber ss target 2 in 10mm. That is a nice gun for side arm when hunting. Before that my side arm is a glock 20, glock 21, my 357mag revolver. I have more, but those are what I carry. The other handguns are safe princesses. Lol
@@theotherguy3083 yeah that's exactly why I got my Kimber. I was able to ship it back to them and have them polish the feed ramp and it doesn't have any issues anymore. But yeah, after paying about $1,000 after tax it was very disconcerting having to ship it back to them for them to fix it before it works properly. That's for sure
Just sell it and get a Glock.
Already got a Glock
Buy cheap ammo and you will have issues. $1000 gun and skimp on ammo. Your fault
Not really sure that's accurate considering I had to ship my gun back to Kimber and after they repaired it the problems stopped happening