It's 2024 And Ford Still Has PAINT ISSUES | Detailer's First Look
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- The 2024 Mustang Darkhorse is an amazing looking car, but it seems Ford still has some quality control issues when it comes to the paint. Is the car ruined and who pays for the damage? What would you do if you just purchased this brand new $80,000 car?
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Who the hell cares it’s a car if I had that kind of money to spend on a mustang I won’t care about the little paint chip there wtf it’s a car it’s meant to be driven not put in a living room. Omg look at this paint chip I can’t detail it I’m scared wtf
😂 why did you watch the video?
@@ChicagoAutoPros it’s a childish stupid video about you bitching about a microscopic paint chip, if the owner of the car not bitching why are you
So your okay with paying 80k on a car and have imperfections on it????
Dumbest take on the internet.
I own a 2019 Bullitt and you bet your ass that I care about what the paint looks like because that paint is what makes THAT car. And yes, it’s a Ford, and yes, the paint is not perfect, and yes it’s annoying AF.
The fact that a $45-50k at best car is now $80k makes me get over the itch for any toys like this real quick.
I'm not made of money but make a decent living and things are just stupid these days.
Be smart and never buy a MUSTANG for $80,000 😂
be smart and don’t buy any car for 80k.
Never buy a Mustang period. 😆
@@bobby3914looks like you couldn’t afford even if you wanted to lmao
Lol it's 120k here in New Zealand!
@@jonathankunwar6999 what's your point Illiterate? You actually think it's normal over paying for a vehicle. Now that's funny.
Thanks for showing us these flaws on this S650 DH. As a current 2019 S550 GT owner, from this, looks like these early batch production units still have the same general sort of surface and finishing QC issues as the entirety of the S550 program. One thing, the driver rear quarter panel edge that has the paint cracked off the corner - that is due to a drip or run. Since the bumper fitment is tight and precise (which itself is a good thing), when assembly of the bumper happened, it cracked the run/drip off. The passenger rear quarter panel wheel well edge, where the debris was noted - that is an appalling example of larger debris not getting filtered out before painting occurred. Either it was in the paint itself, or it was already on the body. Scratches on the RR quarter glass, that is sloppy-a** removal of the factory stickers and adhesive, by dealer during PDI - looks like someone used too sharp a blade or something.
One thing Ford did at the Flat Rock, MI, plant where these are assembled, they invested heavily just prior to the S550 program, in the body shop area - it has ostrich feather rollers, that the body in white (BIW) rolls through, supposedly to remove any remaining surface contaminants, just prior to painting. It's clear that none of this is working very well.
Expectations should definitely be managed when it comes to surface QC expectations from any of the domestic OEs. As a Mustang, the plastic panel gaps and slightly exposed clips are somewhat of a non-issue. But *MAJOR* paint, dust and debris issues on painted metal surfaces is a big factor, which can lead to corrosion. Even from factory, at all OEs, can't expect perfection - tiny super isolated dust nibs are normal. However, large ones are not. My own S550, in black, bought new off the showroom, had quite a few here and there, but I didn't let it bother me, and the hassle of asking the dealer repaint, with the risk of them ruining something else on the car while in their possession wasn't worth it. However, with the prices being asked for vehicles lately, including this Dark Horse example, approaching $100k depending on equipment, right away, people become - rightly so - much more critical of the much more blatantly egregious issues noted in this vid.
The problem is that the S650 is more expensive, uglier, slower and heavier than the S550. These imperfections become a bigger deal at this point. Unacceptable.
If you had taken your S550 in. It would have the similar or worse issues.
@@ClickbaitMotorsports Yeah, inexcusable.
Ford has had paint issues since the late 80's, that I know of.
It started back then with the absolute garbage primer that they were using.
Had issues on my '91 GT, thankfully it wasn't a deal breaker. Being a solid color was nice, the lower body Grey colored GT's had a lot of issues.
@@danielfair4675 Now these are $75K (+markups) vehicles. They are no longer democratized affordable performance cars as originally intended. The margin for error in QC is smaller. Now we're comparing to the Supras, and BMW Ms. If Ford wants to keep putting out crappy quality, then they should lower the price back to $40K-$50K.
they turn out garbage like this, yet UAW has the balls to open discussions with wanting a 40% pay raise! its a clown world.
as a aspiring body tech and painter thank you for vids like this! this is so helpful for looking for mistakes. would love more detailed analysis like this ! I also work at a ford dealer and will be checking on every new mustang we get now for this stuff, crazy.
I just checked a new 2024 mustang at work. It also has paint chipping in the wheel well edges as well
My brand new 2017 GT350 had so many paint issues. I had to have almost the whole car repainted. Thankfully Ford covered it all but it was not amazing having a brand new shelby that has been almost fully repaint. Most body shops are very lousy and after having my car at 3 different highly regarded shops, their work was still subpar. I ended up selling it and moving on to a C63.
What did you pay for your repaints? Usually a good indicator of a decent paint job is pricing, and breakdown of the work they will do. Most body shops will repaint and don’t finish the job by doing either minor sanding, dirt nib removal, over-texture removal, etc.
I didn't pay a dime. As I said in my last comment Ford covered it all under warranty @@jacobshank9362
I worked as a paint engineer in the summer, typically you get that when it’s sprayed really wet and heavy (usually to meet orange peel targets and achieve color match). Paint suppliers can heavily influence the need to paint heavy. As far as the air bubble could’ve been caused by water on the raw plastic, which didnt get dried or blown off correctly.
True but whatever the cause id be pissed if it were me lol
Every Ford I owned had paint issues, very thin layers. Clear coat was so thin, a professional body shop refused to wet sand and buff. Then I moved on:)
The paint meter doesn't lie.
@@ChicagoAutoPros I was very surprised that you did not find any problems with the depth of the layers (excluding the sanded part), after all the paint horror stories I've heard about Fords...
I ordered a DH Premium fully loaded including painted stripes,and Carbon Fiber Wheels. Waiting for delivery not patiently though, especially watching videos like yours. Thanks for the detailed inspection. I bought a New expedition Eddie Bauer fully loaded black. I found light spots in the paint and Ford allowed me to get a completely new paint job at my choosing of the shop. Turned out great still have the truck 25 years later it sits in my garage like my dark horse will
Unfortunately, an 80k car doesn’t mean an 80k paint job. It’s all across the board with manufacturers nowadays. Corners are cut…err…not painted properly.
That being said, I do find Lexus, Audi and BMW having some of the better quality. Still not perfect but more acceptable.
A car is more than a paintjob.
They aren't 80k, more like low 70's with every option available. I'm ordering one for $63k, but not till next year. maybe they will do better after they get their raises, lol!
Gotta factor in the ADMs from dealerships. So it’s actually ~$90K.
Cadillac paint jobs are pretty close to Lexus much better than fords paint jobs
I wonder if every car at this point needs PPF given the changes to paint due to EPA and wear and tear - manufacturers just need to include it on the vehicles or offer it as an option
Also everything he is finding is figure is pretty common for cars at that price now with how supply is now - have even seen issues with exotics like this in some videos
I would be interested to see a follow up on this once the customer has been notified. curious to see if they know about some of this and what actions they will take as far as having the dealer make it right. also, this could hurt the value of the car at a later date now that this has been documented in a way. just my opinion. thanks for the deep dive inspection, it sucks that more shops don't do this anymore.
Owner sent this video straight over to the Ford dealership. Just waiting to hear back...
@@touring189 But if the owner accepted the car and signed for it does he have a leg to stand on? He can't prove it left the dealership with these faults? I suppose I was lucky had my CS 2016 imported to the UK, only 3 in the UK and 2 are on Air Bases. But mine has lived outside for 7 years in London weather rain and rain and sun. But other then a bit of the dreaded bonnet rot, it's been fine and she is black. looking at that car it seems the standard has got worse not better. But don't robots now do all the painting and putting the panels together? U would think they would do a better job, if the Terminators are built like Ford Cars, we will be fine 🙂they will fall apart hahaha
It will more than likely be covered under warranty@@goldengooner5654
Yeah I wouldn’t want to know, lol. Take it for window tint and learn everything cosmetically wrong with the car I just bought 😢.
It was built on bring you kid to work day😝 Hey Timmy, want to paint this customers new Mustang that cost a fortune🤣
😂
One thing to remember, it's the manufacturer at fault here (not the dealers, as much as everyone wants to blame them). There's a certain standard in the auto manufacturing industry that allows for certain defect types/sizes on certain panels of a car/ truck. Pretty much, the lower on the vehicle the defect is, the higher the tolerance to ship it. The same goes for gaps on panels and trim pieces. Those blisters/boils and chipped though, should've been caught at the EOL (end of line) section of the factory to be repaired before shipping. Hopefully the customer can take it to the dealer and relay this back to the manufacturer. My source, I used to work at the "paint hospital" of a major car manufacturer. All I did was "paint repair " on defects such as these or larger and fix em to factory finish/standard.
Paint hospital is GM, correct? My wife works at the Wentzville plant in the paint department. I've heard her use the term "paint hospital" before.
@petedogg369 that's the general term used in the industry. Even third party vendors such as mirka, iwata, SATA, 3M refer to those departments as paint hospitals.
Thanks for sharing.
Btw, I've heard that modern cars' painting is thinner and more "fragile" than what it used to be in the past and therefore chips from stones etc are much easier to happen.
Is that true or is it just another glorification of the good old times?
Those also occur at Boeing with their customers; however enough complaining and you should still get your way.
@@kalinandonov2799 Glorification, most new cars have a higher standard when painting to avoid certain things like orange peel, they target those a lot more with heavy coating and thicker paint jobs, it also helps achieve the desired color and looks a lot better.
After watching this video I rode my bicycle over to my Ford dealership and started to critique a few of their new Mustangs on the lot. There were a lot of fitment issues. One of them was you could see the headlight mounting points where the bumper meets under the headlight. I also saw some peeling paint in the areas that you showcased. If I were going to buy one of these cars I would wait until they get their act together. I’m very picky as well. When I purchase a new car, I look at everything including all of the gaps to see if there any issues. Hopefully Ford will get this corrected soon.
Wow! You are a crazy car guy 😂
@@ChicagoAutoPros well with 94 purchases under my belt. I guess I am kind of crazy, car crazy 😂
You mean the people that make 15 an hour didn't take pride in that 90k car? Lol. Then on top of it the dealer that sold it could of really cared less when they prepped it. Even if the dealer noticed it they just wanted it off the lot with a signature
Enjoy watching this video. Its nice to know there are still people who actually take pride in their work and KNOW what they are doing. Unfortunately, we don't have anything like this in my area.
These defects are completely unacceptable. These are the same guys that want 32 hr work weeks and 40 percent raises? Id ask ford to buy it back if it were mine.
I pretty much agree with you. It's a kind of a farce.
I’d be sick if I came in for tints on my new ride and then I sit there listening to an hour’s worth of issues
I feel bad for the guy that bought that. The quality control is horrible on the new mustangs from all the ones I’ve seen in person. And if they do fix all that paint it’s never going to be 100% right.
Do you mind sharing l What dealership you viewed these 2024 Mustangs that had build quality issues. I've seen s few leftover 2023 Mustang with some basic problems, but no new ones
That was staged. A limited production Dark Horse happens to be there with the entire video being a review to increase subs. Why review the interior 24:42 mention the back seat or open the hood for s car in for tinted windows. Bull Sh*t
@@DWH300 I’m in Illinois. Rod baker, river view, fair oaks ford.
keep up good work! super nice that someone is that precise!
Quality is king!
Attention to detail speaks tons about your character. Respect!
Great video. Going to use your advice and look closely when I take delivery of mine soon.
Best of luck! Hope this video was insightful.
Man, your attention to detail is amazing. I wish you guys were here in Orlando. I bought a new car four weeks ago and took it to get ppf applied and they didn't do a good job, like they just didnt care.
Quality is king. If it's not done right it's not worth getting at all. We do have customers ship their cars in from across the country to get our install quality and top-notch customer service. Please reach out if you have any inquiries and we will always have a solution.
Yeah they would do super good in Florida
Thank you bro I've learned much from this presentation!!
Knowing what to look for is critical when buying a vehicle. I thought I knew much now I realize I dont know s%$t 🤦🏿♂️.
Truly appreciate the knowledge. Most detail shops/cermic coating installer truly don't do this crazy. I just had my vehicle delivered and had it cermic coated. Looks great, but i highly doubt installer went through such specifics. I will be taking a second look for sure. To be continued...
So glad you were able to show this to the owner i bought a 2017 mustang brand new. Paint started peeling off the back windshield edge after 3 years 1 month. Ford will warranty aluminum panels after 3 years usually but anything else your out of luck
In high-school my buddies dad bought a brand new gt500 blue with white stripes top tier and that had a ton on dirt in the paint when I detailed it. Somehow my 03 cobra had absolutely no issues with the original paint.
A (New) vehicle is very nice, but it’s really hard to enjoy. I’ve had the experience….you’re always worried about something happening to it. That first ding or scratch, always makes you Physically sick. Someone is going to park beside of you, regardless of your extreme efforts. You’re really better off …buying a very nice used car, that isn’t perfect.
Save yourself a lot of Money….Protect your Sanity… and just Enjoy your nice ride.
Great Video! I've got one on the way and now I know what areas to check. Heads up though, that color is Atlas Blue, not Blue Ember.
My 2018 required a stage 1 paint correction and roof respray straight off the show room floor. Looks like nothings changed
Yes, Ford has and still has major paint/quality issues. I own a 2022 FJG Mach 1 and it has quite a few dust nibs clearly visible to the naked eye. Also own a 2018 Ruby Red F150 and it has MAJOR paint defects on the roof. For comparison, own a 2023 Audi SQ5 Mythos Black and has ZERO defects.
German luxury vehicles have QC inspectors that go through the whole vehicle(inside/outside) once it is fully assembled from the assembly line.
Back in 2006 my gt came with the same issues so back to the dealership it went to get those paint issues fixed because it really stands out on black.
I have some similar paint issues on my new Bronco. I took it to the dealer and they said “You bought a Ford, what did you expect? If you’re worried about stuff like that you should have bought a Lexus.”
nothing has changed with ford quality for the last 30 years aside from the insane price.
My father had a 2008 Ford Expedition. The lift gate had a problem with the paint color. It did bubbled and chipped some paint off. My father never did get it fixed.
I believe, my opinion, that small deflector in front of the rear wheel opening (at 18:00) is there for one or both of these reasons: 1. governmental regulation requires a shield if the tire is outside of the bodywork,' 2. it could be there for aerodynamics to send the airstream away from the wheel opening.
Aero. Tire/wheel acts as a pump and by kicking the air out around it, you give that air somewhere to go without disrupting airflow as much.
Imagine paying 80K for 500 horsepower and terrible paint. LOL
I got two of them! The black one has a display problem it gos off from time to time! Now my yellow one with 6200 miles is in getting an all new display!!!
that's atlas blue not blue ember
Appreciate the correction.
@@ChicagoAutoPros np…atlas is beautiful but the ember just hits different
When is the renovated Lexus deep clean going to be posted? We’re eagerly awaiting!
Trying for next Saturday.
The people that let this car leave the factory want a 40% increase in wages and benefits. This car must have been extremely expensive and to allow a vehicle to be delivered to a customer in this condition is deplorable.
My 22 race red gt has all kinds of paint defects from factory. Sanding marks , sand/polish marks from dust nibs that they attempted to correct . It's frustrating.
All my mustangs had issues like this with the paint from day 1.
The last gen Focus had an issue where the rear bumper was too tight against the rear 1/4, causing paint to flake off and rust. Very common on 2015-2018 STs.
Had a 1968. It was a Rustang, and they're still building them!
Learn, improve, succeed. Good message 🤘🏿
Got one coming! I will look over it like a fine tooth comb! Thanks for the info! Mine is going to be manual! Save the manuals! And I have blue ember coming!
As a panel shop repair guy the problems with the last gen stang was panel gaps see through paint front bar assembly being too heavy for bar guides seam sealer on camter too roof splitting and causing corrosion between the skins the gap under the headlights is far different no paint in important areas paint contamination on most surfaces black plastics are poor in quality im not hating on mustangs as i actually wanted to buy one but the quality needs too step up a few notches but most people dont see this until there been accident damaged then they get picky on the repairs
How do you fix those micro scratches on the navigation/speedometer screens? Do you install protection film?
I mean, it's basically a S550 refresh, so it makes sense. I'm sure it was engineered with as little line modifications as possible in mind.
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@@LB-bo8os lol no
@@bobbowie9350 Agree... so much not "redesigned on s650" as you stated. Frod just applied a few of their normal engineering band aids to the chassis and added an interior update, then changed the platform designation to keep the sheep happy. Oh and marked up the price.
It's someone's job to inspect each one of those elements that you pointed out and to check for irregularities and defects. Really an oversight by them and is unacceptable. It's should've never left the factory like that.
Ford Focus RS required a repaint after dealer saw the paint flaws. Quality control not what it needs to be. I doubt anyone actually looked at the car as it finished assembly.
Why would anyone get a Dark horse with a 10 speed auto?
I love watching your videos to learn but I agree with the disease part, I watch this one reluctantly because I don't want to learn how to spot these things and then never be able to un-see them lol, but agree that some seem to really pop out only in LED lights under specific circumstances (in our case we have a city lighting post outside or home that at night lights up, it's useful after washing cars for me to see what I missed).
But still I want to learn, even if in my case it's just caring for our boring daily drivers (a minivan and a crossover) because that means they'll look new/great years down the road. Heck I still remember one time I was pulled over for ehm, speed reasons, and the cop stroke up some slight investigative (but still genuine) conversation about how my 08 car still looked so shiny some 8 years later. My goal is that in 3 years my wife's minivan will still have all those piano black/gloss black surfaces mostly scratch free while newer cars will already look swirled and faded, and with a black on white car, that makes the white paint really pop.
For speed reasons 😂
What did Ford change structurally from a 4 cylinder 2016 mustang at your local airport's rental car lot?
Love a guy with an Eagle Eye… fantastic video, Jason! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Thanks 👍
This is the EXACT SAME REASON I sold my 2022 after 2 months of ownership. Literally Ford doesn’t give a damn about quality on their paint
Also the bubbles were on every panel down to the plastic or metal. After 2 months
I hear ya! I bought a new 22 GT convertible in February and kick myself for not looking it over better. The panel alignment is beyond bad and I found a dent in the door that I did not see at delivery, looks like they tried to fix it just like in this video. The car has 300 miles on it, sad quality all around.
Fire it up, does it have the piston slap/2k rattle?
Honestly detailing business has taken on another level. Every damn thing is protected and coated and people keep their car 3 years. Spend money on the car and spend 10k on all kinds of protection and like is said have it for short time. I have owned and kept my cars for over 20 years all close to 300k miles. The money I saved on these protection assuming 4-5 cars most people would buy in that time frame equates to brand new car for free.
I bought a brand new '18 Explorer for my wife. 30k miles goes by and the front hood edge looks like corrosion under the paint. It was bubbling up. I took it to a dealership that delt with a well-known local body shop. The service manager took pics of the edge and told me he'd contact Ford.
Months went by, and he finally called me and said Ford agreed to fix the issue. But he said it would be covered under the normal warranty, not the corrosion warranty they claim to have.
When I scheduled for the body shop to have it, I was told I had to pay for the rental and get reimbursed. When I found out how much a rental was for the same model explorer, it was a quarter what they said they'd pay for the rental. Rental was supposedly covered under my warranty. Long story short, Ford finally agreed to pay the rental charge. I believe it helped that the dealer I used actually rented cars out, so it was a dealer renting it to me.
After the repair was done, I submitted for reimbursement. The charges were on my credit card because they required a card for payment for the rental. Ford then sent me a breakdown on cost. The taxes were omitted, and it stated they do not reimburse taxes. Something no one mentioned till now. So over $150 not being reimbursed. Then they sent me a debit card with the refund on it.
The only problem with that is that I could not apply the card to my credit card to pay it off. No cash advance, no gas pumps. It could only be used for retail sales. Such bs. They said that's how they always issue reimbursement. I ended up swiping the card with my square, and lost another 50something for fees. It's so ridiculous that they require a credit card to rent, but you can't pay that off. So what was supposed to be a free warranty item ended up still costing me money.
I was happy with the paint shop and they did an excellent job repairing the hood.
Not knowing the reimbursement process is what made me irritated. Why would you force someone to pay for a rental, then make it where they can't pay that off? And to top that off, before I was reimbursed, they had me submit a 2nd time the credit card receipt for proof of payment of the rental car.
They know you're not allowed to pay a card with a card and to not allow cash advance is just ridiculous.
Is that hood aluminum by chance? I know some car manufacturers were having issues with galvanic corrosion on aluminum sheet metal in contact with dissimilar metals such as steel components.
Worked at FCAPin 2015, this was the norm there. They do have a dept to take care of these paint defect items. BUT….looks like where mustangs were made, this got by.
It's very obvious that you are running a quality shop there. Can tell from your vibe ;-0 I've had some bad experiences. One company cut my 4Runner's paint all up installing PPF. Fun.
Ford Quality. No surprise. My 2022 Mustang GT has the same thing. I’m gonna have to sand it a little next spring and touch it up and blend it in.
Don’t forget this is the first year… always problems. I heard Ford has panel problems with fitting and stuff with the 2024 Mustangs. I’ll wait until 26-27 to upgrade.
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I paid extra for the cyber orange and I have huge dust particles in a couple places. The panel fitment is terrible, especially the door handles. My b5 blue dodge paint was perfect, so I know if can be done. I had a new 88 Mustang that had no clear coat. I remember the paint would come off when I waxed it. It was faded badly within a year or two.
My 2022 atlas blue ford explorer st has spots on every panel where the body wasn't prepped and cleaned properly during the painting process. Sad what they are charging and what is being delivered.
A review when a manufacture doesn’t fly you out to an exotic location, shower you in gifts, food and drink. Thank you guys
That happened at the dealer and they tried to fix it, When car comes off truck I check it before PDI and when I pick up car I use an led, shit when I pick up a gun I bring an led
Looked at a Cadillac Blackwing with $8100 dollar paint job Maverick Noir Frost what kind of paint is that.
Checked out a Mustang GT and I found the chip and the bubbles at the dealership on multiple models.
Great vid
I brought a genesis gv70 2024. It has same issues as well, lot of hairline scratches and paint chips right below windshield. Should I just get the free paint job offered by dealership?
Interesting Vid!
The paint peeling in all of the wheel-well corners is a bit odd...almost like too much paint followed by too quick of a cure? A painter would know.
I'm am a huge Ford fan but some of their work lately is quite concerning. Not to mention what the CEO is doing to the company, but we wont go there.
Last year I was looking to get an F-250 and they had a Velocity Blue one sitting on the lot. The more I looked at it, the paint didn't look right.
The sheen was off, and the orange peel didn't seem consistent. I continued to poke around (like you do) and bingo, I found overspray on the door handles!
I don't know why both sides had been reshot. Maybe it got key'd? I don't know. But seeing your vid, and others that have surfaced about quality issues, I am very suspect of Ford these days.
1 you don’t have to prep oem panels out of the factory for paint. 2 all the imperfections mainly were at contact points between fender to bumper / quarter panel to bumper and the figments are so tight I bet all them damages were from the assembly at the factory when they were putting the bumpers on
Keep in mind the price you pay for one of these DH models is excessively high just to get fitment and paint issues. It’s unacceptable form a quality stand point
That's the thing I don't like about Ford's. Bet if you look underneath you will find rust beginning to form as well. Ford's are terrible at rust prevention from the factory!
I work in the auto body industry and I can tell you that although this is worse than most, alot of new cars aren’t perfect like we think they are from the factory. Also, they definitely get damaged and repaired by the dealers who wreck them all the time and most don’t have to disclose anything if they’re internal repair is under $500. Which they dictate the price.
My 24k ford maverick didn’t come with paint chips like that. Albeit they still undercut some necessary steps when painting a car
I found many dirt nibs in my white 24. Get these cars under fluorescent lights and you can see everything. I'm not upset about it though. I found nibs in my 18 as well.
when i bought my 2014 gt i looked it over to make sure it wasnt chipped anywhere i passed on a metallic red one because i found chips by the hood and doors.
Disappointing for sure when you pay that much for a new car. When the UAW is about to strike or is on strike, it might not be the best time to buy a car. Ford seems to have a lot of QC issue and the pricing is just stupid. The S650DH has so much cheap hard plastic to remind you it's the same as a 35K Mustang. A fun performance car that has acceleration to match its depreciation.
😳😳 At first I thought it was nit picky…and the more it went on I thought my gosh, I will NEVER buy new. 😅😂
The early s650s had panel issues which ford has acknowledged and delays in productions where they shit down a week here and there to correct production issues
My 2022 Toyota Rav4 has so many paint issues like dust painted and I have one really bad one. Even the exaust pipe left side is so much lower than the right one. Other than that the vehicle is pretty good.
Being an old body man and detailer, all car manufacturers of vehicles that are “affordable” suffer from poor paint quality and often times bad fit and finish.
One of my favorite flaws is the transparent paint typically associated with black basecoat clearcoat. Nothing like seeing primer when looking at a vehicle in bright sunlight.
My mint condition 05 Mustang GT is junk when looking at it critically. It’s hard to imagine paying $80k for a damn mustang…. It’s just a mustang!
For a spooky Halloween episode, do one of the rolling piano gloss black nightmares with PGB rocker panels and wheel arches like the Ariya or the RAV4 Prime.
Painted wheel wells dont make sense honestly. Its only a matter of time before they chip, and its usually the first area to start to rust. And all from very minor unavoidable road debris. I see some modern vehicles are going with hard plastic wheel wells and that makes alot more sense to me.
My mom bought a 2017 Ford Escape two years ago and the paint is already peeling off and my 2014 Lexus hasn't even started to peel yet. Ford needs to find some people who know how to paint cars.
I got a 2024 ecoboost mustang a week ago and there was buffing compound all over it from factory
Sucks they couldnt even bother to clean it properly.
I did. I wasn't about to let anyone else touch it.
I see my car is a reflection on me. I am meticulous about frequently examining my car for blemishes. When I notice a blemish, it makes me sick. So I see blemishes corrections as an upkeep item. Years ago when I could finally afford a nice car. I noticed that I would rarely get stopped by the police. Cops do profile hoopties.
Did you ever get an answer from Ford on the paint issue? I spoke to them and told them that this paint issue needs to be resolved before I consider buying one, if they are missing this problem what else is wrong that you can't see?
You guys are amazing
Has the owner said anything about all the paint issues after the video? I hope they take it back to the dealer and get some of those things repainted…
The customer was notified, if we have an update we'll post it on our Instagram story!
Euro Fords have same issues, I owned 2006 Focus ST and after 5 years it started to rust where fender meets rear bumper. Ford said warranty over and nothing they can do. That was main reason for me to stop buying 2000+ year Fords. I really like Mustangs ( I have 1966 hardtop) but new Mustangs are way too expensive and paint quality seems to be bad still.
@ 17:08 - You're saying, "centrifugal force", but you're looking for "station wagon effect". :)
An $80,000 Dark Horse or a $120,000 GT500.... shares the SAME body and interior as the high school GIRL driving a $29K V6 Mustang turd! The imperfections don't seem too bad now. This is why I just can't stand buying the TOP-OF-THE-LINE models that share the same cheap platforms.
When you put it that way....
After owning a 2020 Mustang GT premium with every option imaginable.. I'll never own another ford again. The thing was junk from the get go...
1) There were micro dents all over it. (I purchased it new with 3 miles on it) There were pin sized dents on the A-pillar hood, etc. Not sure how they got there but I didn't notice until I got home (1 mile drive home) the dealership was less than helpful. I had to pay out of pocket to get the pin size dents removed. (the paint in general "magnetic grey" wasn't great, had to be extensivly paint corrected and again, micro dents removed before I could get a xPel wrap put on it)
2) the backup camera didn't work from day 1 and took 6 months for them to replace it. I was told to "look backwards".
3) It developed the BBQ tick 3 months after I purchased it at 1.5k miles. It would just tick and tick loudly.. basically it sounded like your car does after you drive it and shut it off and you hear the metal ticking as it cools down, except this happens when the car is running. Obviously not a great thing to hear. I took it to Ford they said "it's normal". Yeah, it's normal to make a clink, clink sound randomly.. obviously doesn't sound right and is almost embarassing a new car sounds like that.
4) the 6 speed manual transmission from China.. yeah, that thing SUCKED.. I guess I'm spoiled from my Corvettes that have a Tremec, but come on.. that thing was horrible... enough said there.
I could go on with the quality issues but who has the time? I sold the damn thing 1 year after owning it and couldn't get rid of it fast enough.
Did you ever figure out where the dents came from?
@@ChicagoAutoPros I didn't. I assume they happened at the factory or when it was shipped. Because I saw the car on the lot (in the showroom to be specific) it was always under really favorable lighting where the flakes in the paint really hid the dents. Once I got it home and again my house was just 1 mile away just took a couple mins to get home.. I noticed a small pin head style dent without scratches in the a-pillar. Then another one on the driver's door in the same size and style. Then when I went to get the paint xPel wrapped, they did what you did and went around and found a bunch more dents all over the car. They had to do Paintless dent removal to get them fixed as much as possible before they wrapped it. I had to eat the cost because the dealership claimed they're not responsible. The car had 4 miles on it when I complained to them.. to no avail.
I hope you did not lose too much on this car
I just found dents similar to yours on my 22 gt, it has 300 miles on it now, bought in February, and unfortunately I need to pay to get it fixed! Sad because the car is actually fun to drive.@@davidcovey3001
CAN A CLEAR COAT 2 stage paint job ever be perfect. The old one stage enamel could be fixed pretty easily.
Ford Ceo "we want to focus more on quality and reliability" 😂 BS more like we want to overcharge and make as much as we can
I have same scratches on same window
Love the video. Convinced me ford hasn’t done much to the old problems I seen on s550 exterior. Disappointing ……
Fords always have paint issues my boss and i have repainted several mustangs and found rust on a brand new e-mach roof.