I have a cousin who is married to a man like that. She's a fat dark-skinned woman with a wonderful personality. Her husband is self-absorbed and feels entitled to be treated like a king even though he doesn't bring her any value. It hurts to see a wonderful woman be diminished by him because he weaponizes her low self-esteem against her.
Well you need to do your part. Whenever you have chance to praise her, you should praise her up to heven. For example: Damm Name, you really win a Lottery when you married Name or that beautiful black woman. Or you really have easy in life with her. Or I wish I have a man like her, etc.
I've been puzzling over why women would align themselves with people who so obviously hate them, and now I've finally realized - they think this will protect them. Mocking, belittling, harassing, bullying other women is their way of ensuring that this behavior and attitude is never turned on *them*... but it's only a matter of time. :/
Sadly, I dont understand why, but women themselves participate even in the worst forms of oppression against their own kind. Here, in India some even well educated female gynecologists and nurses will insist their pregnant patients to abort their fetuses if its a female, just because its a female !!! Mothers and paternal grandmothers will murder their infant daughters/grand daughters, just because its a girl !!! These are just a few example. The list is long ! Its really sad...
Yeah. This is what I came to in high school and college. I can sympathize to a certain extent because being isolated is hard. I just can't completely throw away my integrity and morals because I am afraid of being on the other end.
Yes, they're so selfish, desperate, and blind. I'm convinced that some of them see what is happening but don't mind because they know their message sells to incels. Like @justpearlythings
It’s wild to me that people use someone’s age as an insult or slur. Like, I don’t know about you all, but I didn’t have a say in when I was born. I also cannot help getting older; it’s kinda what happens as time goes on. If you’re not getting older then you’re not alive.
I am a man from India, and sadly the cancer called manosphere is growing here as well. A number of men here, i met, told me they are into these toxic manosphere stuff and that worries me. Whats even more worrying is that, most women here are least bothered by this growing plague and some women themselves even have a soft corner for the toxic manosphere ! I mean, whats wrong with this world ?
Fear that women evolving without the need for a man is what is scaring them. What’s wrong with being desired versus being needed? Patriarchy is the cancer that’s destroying the divine connection between the genders (all genders).
Girl I ask these questions all the time wtf is wrong with this world? Then I realize God made the world like this because he doesn’t want us to be too comfortable as earth isn’t our home but heaven is. Most of these people will end up in hell if they refuse to change their egoistic demonic ways smh
Sixteen Hours?! And one livestream was 8 hours. He didn't get tired? Need a nap? Need some water? I cannot imagine talking about someone I don't like for that long. That sounds exhausting.
Thank you for saying this about college. I'm out here fighting for my life against these celebrities that swear you don't need it just because they didn't.
Right, it’s annoying. Like what are people trying to promote here? When I didn’t have a college degree with no skill. I worked at a warehouse making 8.50$ an hour. I was hard headed didn’t listened to my parents. And quickly realized I needed to do something. So I went to medical assistant school that wasn’t much better pay and then eventually became a nurse. I am not rich but I’m okay.
I'm Gen Xer. Every since I was in high school and was found to be bright, I was ridiculed by black men for wanting to be better than them when the only thing I wanted to do was get a degree to survive and get a better paycheck. The usury and abuse of black women are great. Going to college and joining a historically black Greek fraternity as a little sister, showed me that black women were only there to do fundraising for men who turned around and waisted that money on partying and alcohol. It was disappointing. When I joined a HB sorority my sophomore year, my sisters and I gave THOUSANDS to charity and even got an award for being most philanthropic sorority on campus beating many white sororities! Yet, we were the villians! We are respected in the community. Many of us have never married, some of us have married out of our race while others are part of the LGBTQIA community that adopts kids and do good for community! We are not on public platforms bashing one another rather working hard to do good. Yet, we are riduculed for being grandmothers now and literally creating the next generation of college educated Millennials, Gen Ys and Alphas under a barriage of people especially black men and TicTok creators saying college is stupid and not needed creating ignorance in their wake!
@@fredrika27 yea, I don’t understand this sentiment. Why are people encouraging this? It’s like if you didn’t go to college or want to study and put in the work, why try to promote it’s not needed ? It baffles me. When I flunked out of college I didn’t tell people oh I flunked out of college it’s not important or needed. I worked mediocre jobs and took my ass back to college, studied and got my degrees and got a better job.
Yeah, try immigrating without a skill(aka trade school) or an education as a normal person, it's just impossible. Plus you make way less, you're likely stuck at a worse job, and you're maybe not thousands of dollars in debt from student loans however you're likely still living at home. You can't pay everything it takes to live independently on $15 an hour in half the country anymore, and that's not even a realistic wage in the other half, $8-$10 is still common place nationwide. Meanwhile with even an associates degree you make several more dollars even in low earning states, which means paying rent becomes somewhat possible. There's definitely lots of incentive for people to either get a trade or an education, but celebrities love thinking just because they're really lucky, they can tell us how they succeeded and it'll work. At this point I think they do it on purpose so they stay on top and we stay broke and subservient to them, desperate for their table scraps, and unlikely to pose a threat.
I use to watch the Black Manospehere when I was in High School It messed me up and I was looking at women differently until I left it alone. About college other groups of people value a college education, I live in Dallas all the Asians and Indians that go to UT-Dallas graduate with STEM degrees working in IT or Engineering and they get with someone in the same field, get married put their incomes together and live in the suburbs and their kids go to good schools to get an education. The manospehere doesn’t value that they shame women with degrees because they’re looking to elevate themselves with someone with the same attainment as them.
I’m so proud of you 👏🏼👏🏼. Yet, ppl shame education however, had you not ever had those experiences of (observational learning) as well, you may have been warped into that mindset for life. Education opens your mind and deepen your thought processes. Let them stay shallow…
Yes, you didn’t know … all you need to do is pick a target 🎯 and talk about them for weeks then Look in the Manosphere playbook and follow the instructions. The highest producing target is black women and if you really want to hit it big black women like Harriet would be a golden ticket. I love this session because she handle the matter with grace and integrity while keeping her dignity intact 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Facts. I think A lot of men don’t even believe what they’re saying but bc they’ve been hurt they spend their time in an eco chamber which panders to them to feel better. This garners views, which garners money.
@Jay P Go awayyyyyyyy! You just want to start arguments and care Nothing about resolutions. This beautiful and poised women articulated every point perfectly. If you missed it, go seek professional guidance.
You shouldn’t be disgusted that male equivalents would emerge when you wage a gender war. You weren’t entitled to a one sided conversation. Feminist have their toxic characters in over abundance. The manosphere at least allows for dissent to challenge that aspect which is inevitable because free people will do all sorts of things. Feminism needs to break with forcing consensus so it can evolve.
@@samariam3043When have points and opinions helped anybody? U read the news lately? 63% of men and women 34% under 30yrs r single? Thats called stats!! and it shows that women r dating wayyyyy more than men and they r dating very hypergamous. (Dating and sharing the same men) So sit on ur points and opinions! 🤔
The fact that the woman wants said she’d rather be a pick me and not a skip me. Girl being in a relationship is not that hard and you sticking beside a man who don’t respect you! What a bozo!
The SIGN language is strong in this one. She doesn’t understand that the so-called manosphere is a place where the rules and structures that favor her have no currency. She can’t fathom that men would deign to think and act independently of the “right-think” that she was indoctrinated into at college.
As a black man im appalled of the anti black women vibe I get from black manosphere creators, how can you hate your own, its like were in the upside down world, a few bonths ago i watched a blue haired white man (Destiney) stand up and defend black women against a black man (coach gregg) tearing them down, i was in disbelief. As black men we must do better
It's all orchestrated...they're all agents. Not that it makes it any better since they are still putting out negative and patently wrong info about black women.
I see this anti-education view pushed mostly by men. Women are doing better in school at least in terms of enrollment and graduation rates. I think the concept is called gender contamination. I think it is playing a part into the smear campaign of higher education. Plus, a good education helps women be more independent. Men dislike even the smallest measures that allow for greater female autonomy it seems.
yes. they want bw to become so demoralized that we give up on ourselves. some might but the majority of us will not. we did not come thru slavery to then be slaves to bm.
This was the most well put together clap back I’ve ever seen. I admire you Kim for your ability to compile this type of response when you really coulda read them for filth in the most disgusting way!
She’s missing the mark in expecting men to limit their support to those possessing exemplary male status. These are regular men who are happy to hear from regular men. You don’t have to be rich or living the high life.
@@edtastic You missed the mark (see the 29:40 mark). Kim wasn't saying they shouldn't look up to regular men/people, because she herself was living a mediocre life herself but she still did good work. She's saying that these men with the platforms should not be Lying to their viewers that they are of exemplary status, nor shaming regular people and women, when they have been living in a regular home with a regular woman for Years.
This man and his toxicity reminds me of how some of my guy friends in jr high were fatherless and basically created their ideas of what men were based on the worst of the worst media we were all consuming at the time. Fiction raised these men and it's obvious it was bad fiction at that. The manosphere sounds like unacknowledged Jr high trauma run amok.
Trust me it's not just the ones without dads I grew up in a community where not that many of us were fatherless. Unfortunately a lot of these fathers are not very good examples even when they are around because of how they treat the women in their lives. That's why so many men with fathers in my community think women are supposed to basically be their slaves and constantly dehumanize us
@@thatblvckhippie1911 actually the evidence shows that kids who have fathers in the house, have better outcomes than kids who just live with their mothers. Let's be honest ladies have no problem with men working like slaves at multiple jobs to provide for their family but ladies today think it's slavery to cook and clean for their own family in their own home. If a lady doesn't want to cook and clean for her own family she doesn't deserve a family. The same way that a guy doesn't deserve a family if he won't work to provide for them.
Thank you so much for promoting higher education. We have too many anti-intellectual people in positions of leadership, many of whom are racist white people (DeSantis etc.)
@@deejay1216 Cuban-Americans in Florida are often very right-leaning, notoriously so actually. In many cases, their parents or grandparents were Capitalist Batista-supporters who fled to Miami to escape the revolutionaries taking their land and liberating their hideously-exploited Afro-Cuban laborers, so it goes almost without saying that it's not an uncommon thing to see among Florida Cubans. And there's no contradiction between someone being of Latin American descent and being a white supremacist. There are plenty of white Latinos, and those white Latinos generally see themselves as white, as Latino isn't a race.
The issue isn't go to college or get a trade, to me. Both getting a college degree and getting a trade can lead to economic viability. The problem is when people don't have a plan or opportunities to make a living wage.
Odds are I will have more in common with a teacher who makes the *same income* as a truck driver. What part isn't clicking? Virtually my entire immediate social circles (both genders) have degrees. If you're stuck at income youre not understanding the conversation.
Yes, the living wage has a specific definition that doesn't reflect what I meant. The goal is enough income, health insurance and retirement benefits to live without working two or three jobs. That's possible for those with trades as well as those with degrees. But that's me...for others the class/culture difference between those with and without college degrees is too much to negotiate in a relationship. Because I grew up with aunts, uncles and cousins with varying educational experiences; I am not as concerned about those differences.
I’m thankful that I make a living wage and have had a few jobs that offer both health benefits and a 401k without a degree. I was blessed to get into banking and work my way up at an early age. I also think trades are so needed in our community. Electricians and heating and air are in always in demand and pay a living wage with benefits. I also encourage my nephews to go to college and see the world. The social aspect alone is worth it.
It kills me too how these manosphere types will minimize college education and degrees while heavily leaning on the misinterpreted statistics done by people with a formal college education and years of academic research. It’s ironic. Most of the time, the people who shout down education are just insecure because they do not have one. And Kimberley is right. The gap between the college educated and the trades man is very large. You are talking about different experiences, different types of friends, likely different interests, different novels read, different views, etc. and those things can be overcome, BUT I rarely see the tradesman/woman trying to meet the college educated halfway. Instead, we often see the college educated being called elitist and having to give up the things they like to, for lack of a better term, dumb themselves down/lower themselves. People want to be able to talk about the things they like with a partner.
The manosphere doesn’t shout down education. It actually pushes young men to pursue secondary education. It’s only education-indifferent when it comes to choosing a wife because most of modern educated women don’t seem to be interested in being traditional, domesticated wives.
@@hr9336 If after receiving an education, women do not want to live a life of servitude, that should be a sign to you that "traditional" values are not beneficial to women. Also what always makes me laugh are these same men who want "traditional" wives being outraged when a traditional wife gets her fair share in a divorce. Do you want traditional marriage or not?
@@hr9336 Well no, most college educated women have debt to service and will need to work to pay it off, so being traditionally domesticated isn’t going to be super high up on the list of priorities. If men saw college educated women with academic connections, a passion and proven aptitude for learning they could pass down to their children, and the means to make money for the household that isn’t working in a crappy min wage job as just a different type of domestication, then I think there would be less animosity.
Thanks for this video. While I'm not black, I'm definitely part of the lonely/"incel" demography preyed upon by these people and I've lost a good friend to that fashy manosphere shit - and let me tell you, it's pretty heartcrushing to see one of your best friends drift into that direction and becoming gradually more hostile to any attempt to even discuss it. I just hope he finds someone nice who pulls him out of that awful scene. :
@@Tessy29k even though I know there are a lot of dangerous ideas in the “red pill”, it’s also important to look at why men are vulnerable to this… there’s a lot of troubles men are facing that make them vulnerable to these ideas… and sadly, red pill movement offers blame/projection of pain. It’s not an excuse, but it’s important to understand the specific issues both men and women are facing in modern dating/relationships and the disconnecting corporate system we live in.
@@juneelle370 women also go through existential crises. It's important to sit with yourself in silence and calm the storm without drawing other people into it. That's what makes people (men) strong. Women are seeing this (IMO it's a psyops) and withdraw even further, because we operate from a point of safety and security. It's important men like these find ways to outlet. Write letters to themselves, journal, find hobbies that get them out more. There's a video you need to Watch titled "Why 80% of autoimmune sufferers are women". The consequences of partnering with men who have not poured into themselves and made themselves whole are very direct for women.
I knew when you came through the door swinging with "I only debate equals" that you were going to READ that man. There is nothing I love more than a classy, diplomatic, well educated come back. I was clutching my pearls the entire time😂
I had to stop 45 minutes in and ask if you have time, can you make a short about this point about black people in college? I have a sixteen-year-old that I am trying to get ready for college and nobody is jumping on to support. He's too smart not to go to school, and as I see it, after he gets his degree he has the rest of his life to explore what he wants to be. This is such an important message for our young black people. We do not have the privilege or the time to be playing games! To this day!
But as a sidenote he's clearly such a lucky dude to have somebody like you who believes in him in his life 😭 your comment is so sweet. Would also love to see that video if you're reading kim
Here's an easy argument. A lot of success means dealing with people who ARE credentialed or who ONLY respect people who are credentialed. If you're an artist, that means being connected with people who can buy your art (aka rich), and being able to converse with them persuasively. if you're a community organizer that means dealing with politicians, if you're a blue-collar worker who might want to own a business, that means dealing with banks and investment firms. It's much easier to be successful with the type of experience that means your encounters with these people are useful to you because they're putting you in a class above others. Even for something like acting, the fact of the matter is that the black people who are successful went to college for drama, almost all of them.
I also wanted to add (regarding College debt) that debt is not a moral failing of the individual. It is a SYSTEMIC issue. And many men on that side are obsessed with "wealth building" without fully understanding Capitalism
Honestly if someone was streaming for hours about me I’d want to call the cops, that is so alarming. But maybe because I’m not so much in the public eye.
The manosphere is getting so out of control. And one of the female pushbacks is literally to stand behind these men??? It's wild to me. It's crazy to think that your views (which everyone here agrees with) are considered "radical" because you believe people deserve to have the right to choose themselves and demand what matches their own self-imbued worth and integrity. Options and equality.
Dude look... its simple no one is arguing yall can't get pumped and dumped. Everyone knows you're are the worlds walking sperm receptacles. We are telling women that ON AVERAGE no man of means is gonna wife up a fat, ran through old hag with kids. Hell sleep with you but he'd be an idiot to marry you. Especially when he has so many options. So... if you are apart of a group NOT ALL WOMAN but the women who are 72% single mothers, 50% Herpes, 80% Obese and wears someone else's hair on your head. You might end up having to lower your standards AND NO lizzy is not a 10 sry 🤓
Feminism got out of control a long time ago and we put up with it. The desire for feminist hegemony is a problem for men and women alike. We have a lot more ideas about how to live that ought be heard and debated.
@edtastic If more learned how to actually live and LET live, we wouldn't have to debate. Unless you're attempting to bring everyone under a single life style, why is there a debate? If my out of control feminist self isn't telling you what type of life to lead and simply minding my business, what you worried about it for?
@@edtastic LMFAO, y'all really do live in your own reality. Feminism hasnt even BEGUN to truly percolate the way it truly NEEDS to. That response is a piss poor BS excuse for BM's rampant misogyny. But its not like anything is going to change...
@@edtastic I agree. There doesn’t seem to be room for nuance but it’s really just giving everyone the freedom and options to make their own choices. No matter their race, gender, caste,
@24:40 The reason he does this, and goes to bed with the same kind of woman he trashes…this is his covert way of abusing her. Keeping her In her place. Convincing her, and people around her, that HE is good enough for her, and she cannot do better. He is mocking women like her, so she can know that she doesn’t deserve better and best not leave him, or she will be alone and miserable. You won’t get me to feel sorry for her, nope! Not at all! Even tho she is clearly being abused emotionally and mentally. You know why? Cause Any of us can choose this kind of man, but we choose to be alone. So while i sit here man less, trying to figure it out. She will NOT get my compassion. Because THIS is a choice. And she has accepted the belief that any man, is better than no man. So much so, that she is willing to throw OTHER BW under the bus who look like her JUST to keep her HER man. No girl code. No compassion.
Pleeeease do a video on the importance and Pros of a college education. I’m so SICK of the narrative that it’s not for everybody….too many young Black kids are using this tag line to try and skip steps only to end up doing nothing serious and waste their 20s
What about the cons? Doesn't that matter too? People should know the good and the bad when it comes to any endeavor in life. So that their hopes aren't shattered when the cons outweigh the pros in certain instances.
I’m 21 years old I got an associates degree in HVAC at my community college, but my father wanted me to continue going to school I was hesitant about it then I came to realization now I’m in the process of transferring to a 4 year university.
Getting unsuspectingly pulled into the Manosphere content a few years back has me wary of men content creators now. Those guys have no love for black women or black people for that matter. I'm here for anyone calling out their bs.
Ms. Kim is a whole librarian. The way she was reading that youtuber and his gf in the most intellectual, eloquent, and calm manner had me kinda shook ngl.
@@brotherumarj3370 true but they are being influenced by guys like Kev. S IN A mid life crisis, criticizing women, sometimes men, telling chick what it means to be feminine, and set in their ways. Classic mid life crisis.
FD Signifer had the same thing happen to him... smh. They were tryna call him gay and other things because he doesn't agree with/follow manosphere rhetoric.
They have to ride someone’s coattails. Remember when rappers use to start beefs to sell records? These manosphere content creators need to stir up drama to gain momentum for their channels. They are trying to start controversy with bigger creators to get views. The pick-me is doing it because she needs validation. It’s the same reason all these pick-mes do anything.
They made their own coattails. Opponents are necessary but the targets are abundant. For Harriet isn’t special or particularly important. They’d rather talk about some real celebrity.
@@edtastic the couple Kimberly is referring to think she is special. I mean why else would someone sit down for hours to talk about someone else? Given that his channel is smaller and less known, he is using Kim to gain more attention for his page... essentially riding on her coattails.
@@edtastic Anyone working 16 hours to degrade another person thinks the person is superior to them. This is a well know tactic used to try to bring another person down to the level you perceive yourself to be on. Men do it all the time to obtain or keep a woman they feel is out of their league. Y’all are see through.
Desirability is not a virtue or character trait, it's a subjective judgment that only people with a desperate need for external validation let others effect their self esteem with.
I'm trying to figure out how disempowered a man needs to be in his real life before he feels like being a cyber bully of black women is an improvement. 👀🙄
My husband has completely changed once these videos started popping up in his feeds. We got into a bad fight and that’s when I started to notice the videos. Now his communication skills are garbage. He would never tell me to shut up. Now he does. He used to never let me cry. Now I cry myself to sleep. Only thing he cares about is sex and work. Only been married a year. :,(
Smh this is terrible. I know nothing of your relationship but please remember you are a human and deserve to be treated that way. Seems like he treated you that way to get you into the marriage.
Many women who are considered 'older' are slamming up against the fact that they have settled for their half-a -man.😂 The cognitive dissodance is real.
Kim, it's the intellectual dragging for me 💅🏿👏🏿. I really love how you take every moment good or bad and you make it into a teachable moment while you can still hear the dragging within. Happy belated birthday 🎉 my hubby's was on the 11th.
When you mentioned how the woman that participated in talking down on you looked all I could think about is …the jokes write themselves every. Single. Time.
This clap back was well done. It gave all the grace that I hope we all can follow. ❤❤She was not triggered, emotional or talking out of the side of her neck but so tactfully addressed the person and their commentary w/o shaming and calling them names. I hope we all aspire to handle bullying this way. Lastly to be honest if he/they were to see this, I think the tone would go over their head 😂
Kim - idk how you do it. You are a scholar, trying to talk to these losers, who don't have the bandwidth to even understand. They don't even meet the prereqs to watch your videos. Not sure what your plan is, but choose you always. We are here for you.
These types of men are sooo pathetic. They get spend hours and resources on attempting to tear down women, hours telling a woman why they don't want them or don't think any man will want them while these women are literally minding their business, thriving in all areas of life and are not missing out on dates the way these lowlifes will make it seem. They assume a woman's worth is tied up in her desirability. Who would want a man who hat brings no value to the equation. It's maddening. Stay unbothered and thriving ladies.
It’s likely narcissistic abuse, too. Explaining the dynamic between them. It’s going to be awful when he leaves, but she may realize how far she fell to have a crumb of companionship from a man who is so deeply lost and trauma filled that he genuinely will never treat her well. It’s a shame and it’s a lie she and women who pick these men are being sold. It’s a sham.
@@sbond7510 thanks for the lesson, since english is not my maternal language, spelling and sometimes the proper grammar are deffinitely my achilles heel. But seriously dont you think we overuse that term narcissist?
They're talking about the same Britney Renner who had a child with an NBA player, but they supposedly looked down on her as a "predator" for said player being about a year or two younger than her? And now they're--checks notes 🤔--defending her?
That NBA player was 7 years younger and the backlash came from the fact that she met him when was he 18 or 19 in college and she was 26. Definitely a side eye there but I agree with everything else you said. It’s grifting at its finest.
@@TheSomethingnew1Yet those same men won’t see anything bad if it was a man in his 30s trying to groom 18, 19 years old women. There are even men in their 40s who do the same sh*t to 18, 19 years old.... why is there not enough backlash.
@@YouYou-sm8tf well men are being met with vitriol for doing the same thing. Unfortunately it’s from mostly women. Men don’t call out other men when it comes to this. Either way it’s gross. But I’m pretty sure Brit was trying to get a bag and it backfired. She was on live last year admitting to being broke. I think that’s why she’s trying to appeal to the manosphere now. For opportunity.
Girl, the jokes write themselves. Sis had the gall to be 40+, plus size, dark-skinned, with natural hair (all 4 of which I am), & a baby mama & out here parroting a "man" while he berates a black woman who encourages all black women. Chile.....I just cannot.
People who are healthy and well-adjusted don't degrade others. They don't hold up physical appearance as the most important thing in life and they care about having real connections with human beings. We are in need of widespread mental health resources. What we're seeing now is a sick society in real time.
I found the man while I want to hear his rant, I don’t want to click the video because I don’t want TH-cam thinking I want to watch that kind of content. Lmao
Yes that part about college is so important!! And I find so much of the people saying you don't need it, didn't go. Going to college allows you more of a chance to live a better life. It's not a guarantee but the chances are high. Worse as someone from Jamaica, I may not be in the field I studied for but my degree opened doors, would have not been able to be living in currently my 3rd country without. So while those people chat, I am here enjoying the experiences that piece of paper allowed me to have.
Just want to say I love you and your channels. It hurts to see you treated this way when you're such a kind, positive and uplifting person. I appreciate how you have opened my eyes to how you and Black women are treated.
The funniest thing is that at a point they were so again Brittany calling her at types of names like golddigger and stuff. But when she started singing their tune shesthw most amazing thing that has happened. Honestly people don't know what they want
Using logic and applying the argument to the conclusion is a problem for those people. Their coupling is a very common one in the black community. Why demonize your own normal situation? Their arguments are steeped in a lot of self hatred. Just look at his own situation.
Kimberly, the way this led me down the most bizarre rabbit hole. 😳 The little man and DS attacking each other about their lifestyles and women ... So I went to look, thinking they had to be ballin' with some 10s on their arms. Girl. The regular of it all. 🙈 Why are they so loud? So strange.
Jealous of Brittany Renner’s dating pool? These same men who Brittany said she was disgusted with herself for evening sleeping with them. The math is not mathing. Let's be real, who is in a much better position than the other despite what these men say or their desirability politics?
The little man’s woman has low self esteem. Not only is he physically undesirable (short, crippled, and funny looking), he’s financially challenged, and he lacks critical thinking skills. I almost felt sorry for her until I faced the fact that she chose to be with him for 14 years knowing that a man at the bottom doesn’t value her. She is projecting her self hate onto you.
What are these big differences between college educated people and tradesmen? How are these differences so vast that the idea of romance between individuals of these groups is unthinkable?
Lets be honest the women who spend their time auditioning for these roles are usually the same roles they will need help getting out of. Don’t let these clownesphere dudes bait you they are mad and jealous that their scare tactics has backfired. When you have to use insults or ad hominems you have already lost the argument.
1ST AN 8 HR LIVE STREAM IS ALARMING AND UN HINGED af!! i would legitimately be scared simultaneously hella flattered! #2. the pettiest most thorough classsy nice nasty hurtful read EVAAAAAA LMAOOOO!! annihilation literally! trust they feelings are hurt hahah
Yesssss! I've been saying this over and over 45:02! I feel like I have been on repeat... and said it again this AM. I even had the conversation this past weekend (AGAIN) that the trades often times represent a "ceiling". Ultimately, I chose college educated men because of the exposure and types of conversations. It is what it is... people do not like when I say such things. I have no idea who verbally attacked you glad you cleared it up. (Yes, I live under a rock)
I often just lurk when I watch your content (as a feminist I enjoy listening to your content because it can help me learn, and sometimes even makes me see things from a black womans point of view - but I often don't comment because I know my pasty white english self isn't among the target audience. I don't usually think I have anything of substance to really add to the dialogue, so I stay in the back seat so to speak). I just want to say I admire your class and patience. It takes guts to put your face out there on a video (something this guy doesn't have) and speak out and express yourself so openly - it also takes a lot of self restraint to turn the other cheek (I agree it's for he best, guys like this just thrive on attention/views). But I also like that you don't just accept the abuse lying down, and chose to use it in a productive way to open up a conversation about Manosphere men and the women who weirdly tolerate and/or perhaps even love them. Your ability to turn just about anything into a teachable moment is what I enjoy so much about this channel.
The idea that you can simply partner across class and educational lines is truly maddening. Being a college graduate and having exposure to that kind of diversity challenges all your beliefs and refines them. It also shapes what you enjoy doing in your free time, where you want to spend your money, and your overall politic. Due to patriarchy, a college educated woman would need to work with a blue color man to bring him into her world and more importantly, he’d have to come willingly and without pushback. He’d have to be a willing student and pupil. Lots of women have tried to do this and found that patriarchal teaching is too entrenched in men’s minds to actually become a teachable in this area.
Kim shout out to you for watching someone talk about you for 16 HOURS. SIX.TEEN.WHOLE. HOURS??? Sis. I could never. Even if they were singing my praises I'd be like "...no thanks". I can't even tolerate that. That's too much me for me lol. ETA I understand the importance of college. I have a whole Master's degree and I love learning. LOVE learning love school lol. However, I work in education and I also understand college is not for everyone. College focuses mostly on one way to learn and understand information. And for some (please note not the majority), that one way of learning doesn't mesh with the way their brain interprets and understands information. Like... literally lol. If you have the support and tools needed to make college accessible, I think you should try to go. However, if there are no tools to support making that learning and understanding accessible for folks who's brains work differently...it's not worth their pain and finances.
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Just to say the guy you're talking about does this to everyone. He could do 8 hours on a fly on the wall.
I'm so glad you didn't let that misogynoir creep stop you from having your event!
I have a cousin who is married to a man like that. She's a fat dark-skinned woman with a wonderful personality.
Her husband is self-absorbed and feels entitled to be treated like a king even though he doesn't bring her any value. It hurts to see a wonderful woman be diminished by him because he weaponizes her low self-esteem against her.
Well you need to do your part. Whenever you have chance to praise her, you should praise her up to heven. For example: Damm Name, you really win a Lottery when you married Name or that beautiful black woman. Or you really have easy in life with her. Or I wish I have a man like her, etc.
Question is is she happy about her circumstances
That… sounds like emotional abuse she’s experiencing. I just got out of that situation and I wish her healing and freedom from that.
Sounds to me like she should be thankful.😂
@@FatherDIVINE. Who could be happy with emotional abuse?
I've been puzzling over why women would align themselves with people who so obviously hate them, and now I've finally realized - they think this will protect them. Mocking, belittling, harassing, bullying other women is their way of ensuring that this behavior and attitude is never turned on *them*... but it's only a matter of time. :/
Sadly, I dont understand why, but women themselves participate even in the worst forms of oppression against their own kind.
Here, in India some even well educated female gynecologists and nurses will insist their pregnant patients to abort their fetuses if its a female, just because its a female !!!
Mothers and paternal grandmothers will murder their infant daughters/grand daughters, just because its a girl !!!
These are just a few example. The list is long ! Its really sad...
Yeah. This is what I came to in high school and college. I can sympathize to a certain extent because being isolated is hard. I just can't completely throw away my integrity and morals because I am afraid of being on the other end.
Yup, look at Laren Southern
Yes, they're so selfish, desperate, and blind. I'm convinced that some of them see what is happening but don't mind because they know their message sells to incels. Like @justpearlythings
That part.
It’s wild to me that people use someone’s age as an insult or slur. Like, I don’t know about you all, but I didn’t have a say in when I was born. I also cannot help getting older; it’s kinda what happens as time goes on. If you’re not getting older then you’re not alive.
I am a man from India, and sadly the cancer called manosphere is growing here as well. A number of men here, i met, told me they are into these toxic manosphere stuff and that worries me. Whats even more worrying is that, most women here are least bothered by this growing plague and some women themselves even have a soft corner for the toxic manosphere ! I mean, whats wrong with this world ?
Fear that women evolving without the need for a man is what is scaring them. What’s wrong with being desired versus being needed? Patriarchy is the cancer that’s destroying the divine connection between the genders (all genders).
Negativity sells! People need something…anything to blame for their problems and failures!
What is it about Kim's content that u enjoy, as a non-black person
Girl I ask these questions all the time wtf is wrong with this world? Then I realize God made the world like this because he doesn’t want us to be too comfortable as earth isn’t our home but heaven is. Most of these people will end up in hell if they refuse to change their egoistic demonic ways smh
@@ennvee1989 literally everything. Her political stances are so valuable.
“I only debate my equals”🔥🔥🔥 YASSSSSSSS
I almost fell out of my chair. I don't blame Kim forget that Leach
So me today
Yesssssss!!! She need to Let Em Know!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥
That was a bar 👏🏽✨
Sixteen Hours?! And one livestream was 8 hours. He didn't get tired? Need a nap? Need some water? I cannot imagine talking about someone I don't like for that long. That sounds exhausting.
It's hate-livestreaming. Complete waste of time and energy. It obviously produces a low vibe.
Right?! That’s obsession.
I can’t either. I would run out of things to say.
His girl should be concerned…
That’s a Holiness revival type schedule…and you didn’t get closer to the Lord after all of that. Take it away from me!
Thank you for saying this about college. I'm out here fighting for my life against these celebrities that swear you don't need it just because they didn't.
Right, it’s annoying. Like what are people trying to promote here? When I didn’t have a college degree with no skill. I worked at a warehouse making 8.50$ an hour. I was hard headed didn’t listened to my parents. And quickly realized I needed to do something. So I went to medical assistant school that wasn’t much better pay and then eventually became a nurse. I am not rich but I’m okay.
@@NadiaPinkWell done! Good for you learning how valuable you are!
I'm Gen Xer. Every since I was in high school and was found to be bright, I was ridiculed by black men for wanting to be better than them when the only thing I wanted to do was get a degree to survive and get a better paycheck. The usury and abuse of black women are great. Going to college and joining a historically black Greek fraternity as a little sister, showed me that black women were only there to do fundraising for men who turned around and waisted that money on partying and alcohol. It was disappointing. When I joined a HB sorority my sophomore year, my sisters and I gave THOUSANDS to charity and even got an award for being most philanthropic sorority on campus beating many white sororities! Yet, we were the villians! We are respected in the community. Many of us have never married, some of us have married out of our race while others are part of the LGBTQIA community that adopts kids and do good for community! We are not on public platforms bashing one another rather working hard to do good. Yet, we are riduculed for being grandmothers now and literally creating the next generation of college educated Millennials, Gen Ys and Alphas under a barriage of people especially black men and TicTok creators saying college is stupid and not needed creating ignorance in their wake!
@@fredrika27 yea, I don’t understand this sentiment. Why are people encouraging this? It’s like if you didn’t go to college or want to study and put in the work, why try to promote it’s not needed ? It baffles me. When I flunked out of college I didn’t tell people oh I flunked out of college it’s not important or needed. I worked mediocre jobs and took my ass back to college, studied and got my degrees and got a better job.
Yeah, try immigrating without a skill(aka trade school) or an education as a normal person, it's just impossible. Plus you make way less, you're likely stuck at a worse job, and you're maybe not thousands of dollars in debt from student loans however you're likely still living at home. You can't pay everything it takes to live independently on $15 an hour in half the country anymore, and that's not even a realistic wage in the other half, $8-$10 is still common place nationwide. Meanwhile with even an associates degree you make several more dollars even in low earning states, which means paying rent becomes somewhat possible. There's definitely lots of incentive for people to either get a trade or an education, but celebrities love thinking just because they're really lucky, they can tell us how they succeeded and it'll work. At this point I think they do it on purpose so they stay on top and we stay broke and subservient to them, desperate for their table scraps, and unlikely to pose a threat.
I use to watch the Black Manospehere when I was in High School It messed me up and I was looking at women differently until I left it alone. About college other groups of people value a college education, I live in Dallas all the Asians and Indians that go to UT-Dallas graduate with STEM degrees working in IT or Engineering and they get with someone in the same field, get married put their incomes together and live in the suburbs and their kids go to good schools to get an education. The manospehere doesn’t value that they shame women with degrees because they’re looking to elevate themselves with someone with the same attainment as them.
I’m so proud of you 👏🏼👏🏼. Yet, ppl shame education however, had you not ever had those experiences of (observational learning) as well, you may have been warped into that mindset for life. Education opens your mind and deepen your thought processes. Let them stay shallow…
You see how you opened your mind and now your life will benefit.
15:08 *”you do not have to be a martyr to be loved!”*
Grifting seems to be the preferred profession of this moment of social media culture. 🤦🏾♂️
Yes, you didn’t know … all you need to do is pick a target 🎯 and talk about them for weeks then Look in the Manosphere playbook and follow the instructions. The highest producing target is black women and if you really want to hit it big black women like Harriet would be a golden ticket.
I love this session because she handle the matter with grace and integrity while keeping her dignity intact 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Shows how insecure people are it’s scary
Facts. I think A lot of men don’t even believe what they’re saying but bc they’ve been hurt they spend their time in an eco chamber which panders to them to feel better. This garners views, which garners money.
Thank you Kim. I am also disgusted. The men who follow these men need to know these podcasters be lying and scamming.
She did not even try to debunk any statistics tho.🤔
@Jay P Go awayyyyyyyy! You just want to start arguments and care Nothing about resolutions. This beautiful and poised women articulated every point perfectly. If you missed it, go seek professional guidance.
You shouldn’t be disgusted that male equivalents would emerge when you wage a gender war. You weren’t entitled to a one sided conversation. Feminist have their toxic characters in over abundance. The manosphere at least allows for dissent to challenge that aspect which is inevitable because free people will do all sorts of things. Feminism needs to break with forcing consensus so it can evolve.
@@samariam3043 he's entitled to comment on a public yt thread.
@@samariam3043When have points and opinions helped anybody? U read the news lately? 63% of men and women 34% under 30yrs r single? Thats called stats!! and it shows that women r dating wayyyyy more than men and they r dating very hypergamous. (Dating and sharing the same men) So sit on ur points and opinions! 🤔
The fact that the woman wants said she’d rather be a pick me and not a skip me. Girl being in a relationship is not that hard and you sticking beside a man who don’t respect you! What a bozo!
I’m sick of those bird brained women but at the same time feel bad for them.
Not really
The SIGN language is strong in this one. She doesn’t understand that the so-called manosphere is a place where the rules and structures that favor her have no currency. She can’t fathom that men would deign to think and act independently of the “right-think” that she was indoctrinated into at college.
As a black man im appalled of the anti black women vibe I get from black manosphere creators, how can you hate your own, its like were in the upside down world, a few bonths ago i watched a blue haired white man (Destiney) stand up and defend black women against a black man (coach gregg) tearing them down, i was in disbelief. As black men we must do better
It's all orchestrated...they're all agents. Not that it makes it any better since they are still putting out negative and patently wrong info about black women.
I see this anti-education view pushed mostly by men. Women are doing better in school at least in terms of enrollment and graduation rates.
I think the concept is called gender contamination. I think it is playing a part into the smear campaign of higher education. Plus, a good education helps women be more independent. Men dislike even the smallest measures that allow for greater female autonomy it seems.
yes. they want bw to become so demoralized that we give up on ourselves. some might but the majority of us will not. we did not come thru slavery to then be slaves to bm.
@@marie-francoiset9402 🎯🎯🎯🎯
Because a college education has never been worth less than it is now. The time and cost just aren't worth it
I'm Gen X at 48 and will be 50 next year; I believe the Black Manosphere is a money grab from specific individuals.
I was always told growing up that Education is the only real way out of poverty, especially higher education.
as long as you don't go too far into debt it is.
College isn't the only way to get an education.
This was the most well put together clap back I’ve ever seen. I admire you Kim for your ability to compile this type of response when you really coulda read them for filth in the most disgusting way!
You said read them for filth😂Yea, it seems attacking woman and especially black woman is the recycled trend.
She’s missing the mark in expecting men to limit their support to those possessing exemplary male status. These are regular men who are happy to hear from regular men. You don’t have to be rich or living the high life.
@@edtastic You missed the mark (see the 29:40 mark). Kim wasn't saying they shouldn't look up to regular men/people, because she herself was living a mediocre life herself but she still did good work. She's saying that these men with the platforms should not be Lying to their viewers that they are of exemplary status, nor shaming regular people and women, when they have been living in a regular home with a regular woman for Years.
As a BLACK MAN from Oklahoma, I love your channel Kim! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Wassup fellow OKIE!! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
This man and his toxicity reminds me of how some of my guy friends in jr high were fatherless and basically created their ideas of what men were based on the worst of the worst media we were all consuming at the time. Fiction raised these men and it's obvious it was bad fiction at that. The manosphere sounds like unacknowledged Jr high trauma run amok.
I'm curious, where you born in a home with both parents married to each other?
@@tipsandtricks6071 My parents separated around 1st grade and our step dad joined the family a few years after. Why do you ask?
@@kworrell2020 🤔
Trust me it's not just the ones without dads I grew up in a community where not that many of us were fatherless. Unfortunately a lot of these fathers are not very good examples even when they are around because of how they treat the women in their lives. That's why so many men with fathers in my community think women are supposed to basically be their slaves and constantly dehumanize us
@@thatblvckhippie1911 actually the evidence shows that kids who have fathers in the house, have better outcomes than kids who just live with their mothers. Let's be honest ladies have no problem with men working like slaves at multiple jobs to provide for their family but ladies today think it's slavery to cook and clean for their own family in their own home. If a lady doesn't want to cook and clean for her own family she doesn't deserve a family. The same way that a guy doesn't deserve a family if he won't work to provide for them.
Thank you so much for promoting higher education. We have too many anti-intellectual people in positions of leadership, many of whom are racist white people (DeSantis etc.)
He has the damn nerve, and DeSantis’ father is from Cuba🤷🏽♀️.
And yet DeSantis wouldn’t be where he is without Harvard!
@@deejay1216 Cuban-Americans in Florida are often very right-leaning, notoriously so actually. In many cases, their parents or grandparents were Capitalist Batista-supporters who fled to Miami to escape the revolutionaries taking their land and liberating their hideously-exploited Afro-Cuban laborers, so it goes almost without saying that it's not an uncommon thing to see among Florida Cubans.
And there's no contradiction between someone being of Latin American descent and being a white supremacist. There are plenty of white Latinos, and those white Latinos generally see themselves as white, as Latino isn't a race.
The issue isn't go to college or get a trade, to me. Both getting a college degree and getting a trade can lead to economic viability. The problem is when people don't have a plan or opportunities to make a living wage.
College is not about a living wage. It is about the kinds of jobs that facilitate health and retirement income
@@Knologic you’re mistaken
Odds are I will have more in common with a teacher who makes the *same income* as a truck driver. What part isn't clicking?
Virtually my entire immediate social circles (both genders) have degrees. If you're stuck at income youre not understanding the conversation.
Yes, the living wage has a specific definition that doesn't reflect what I meant. The goal is enough income, health insurance and retirement benefits to live without working two or three jobs. That's possible for those with trades as well as those with degrees. But that's me...for others the class/culture difference between those with and without college degrees is too much to negotiate in a relationship. Because I grew up with aunts, uncles and cousins with varying educational experiences; I am not as concerned about those differences.
I’m thankful that I make a living wage and have had a few jobs that offer both health benefits and a 401k without a degree. I was blessed to get into banking and work my way up at an early age. I also think trades are so needed in our community. Electricians and heating and air are in always in demand and pay a living wage with benefits. I also encourage my nephews to go to college and see the world. The social aspect alone is worth it.
It kills me too how these manosphere types will minimize college education and degrees while heavily leaning on the misinterpreted statistics done by people with a formal college education and years of academic research. It’s ironic. Most of the time, the people who shout down education are just insecure because they do not have one.
And Kimberley is right. The gap between the college educated and the trades man is very large. You are talking about different experiences, different types of friends, likely different interests, different novels read, different views, etc. and those things can be overcome, BUT I rarely see the tradesman/woman trying to meet the college educated halfway. Instead, we often see the college educated being called elitist and having to give up the things they like to, for lack of a better term, dumb themselves down/lower themselves.
People want to be able to talk about the things they like with a partner.
The manosphere doesn’t shout down education. It actually pushes young men to pursue secondary education. It’s only education-indifferent when it comes to choosing a wife because most of modern educated women don’t seem to be interested in being traditional, domesticated wives.
@@hr9336 If after receiving an education, women do not want to live a life of servitude, that should be a sign to you that "traditional" values are not beneficial to women. Also what always makes me laugh are these same men who want "traditional" wives being outraged when a traditional wife gets her fair share in a divorce. Do you want traditional marriage or not?
Because they are not intellectuals. It’s all entertainment for a 14 year old base.
@@hr9336 Why exactly do modern women need to be traditional domesticated wives? You never articulated that point.
@@hr9336 Well no, most college educated women have debt to service and will need to work to pay it off, so being traditionally domesticated isn’t going to be super high up on the list of priorities. If men saw college educated women with academic connections, a passion and proven aptitude for learning they could pass down to their children, and the means to make money for the household that isn’t working in a crappy min wage job as just a different type of domestication, then I think there would be less animosity.
Thanks for this video. While I'm not black, I'm definitely part of the lonely/"incel" demography preyed upon by these people
and I've lost a good friend to that fashy manosphere shit - and let me tell you, it's pretty heartcrushing to see one of your
best friends drift into that direction and becoming gradually more hostile to any attempt to even discuss it.
I just hope he finds someone nice who pulls him out of that awful scene. :
💙
Your friend is unhappy and miserable because I honestly don't know one happy man that would ever involve himself in that nonsense
@@Tessy29k even though I know there are a lot of dangerous ideas in the “red pill”, it’s also important to look at why men are vulnerable to this… there’s a lot of troubles men are facing that make them vulnerable to these ideas… and sadly, red pill movement offers blame/projection of pain. It’s not an excuse, but it’s important to understand the specific issues both men and women are facing in modern dating/relationships and the disconnecting corporate system we live in.
@@juneelle370 women also go through existential crises. It's important to sit with yourself in silence and calm the storm without drawing other people into it. That's what makes people (men) strong.
Women are seeing this (IMO it's a psyops) and withdraw even further, because we operate from a point of safety and security.
It's important men like these find ways to outlet. Write letters to themselves, journal, find hobbies that get them out more.
There's a video you need to Watch titled "Why 80% of autoimmune sufferers are women". The consequences of partnering with men who have not poured into themselves and made themselves whole are very direct for women.
@@VeeKayGreenerGrass 💜 agree!!!
I’m so glad women are recognizing their worth and not settling for less especially when it comes to relationships
This woman is an invaluable GEM. Period.
You meant valuable ?
@@melb2336 Gary Jones has said well bc invaluable means PRICELESS.
@@bernadettejones7597 well then he should’ve said priceless 🤔
Absolutely!
@@melb2336 You’re buggin why does it matter which synonym he uses 💀
"writing ideological cheques that their lifestyle cannot cash" .... just paused the video to absorb that quote 🙌🏿🗣️
These guys aren't worth talking to. The women who side with them are lost in male Identified mind. I hope She Wake up one day
I knew when you came through the door swinging with "I only debate equals" that you were going to READ that man. There is nothing I love more than a classy, diplomatic, well educated come back. I was clutching my pearls the entire time😂
I had to stop 45 minutes in and ask if you have time, can you make a short about this point about black people in college? I have a sixteen-year-old that I am trying to get ready for college and nobody is jumping on to support. He's too smart not to go to school, and as I see it, after he gets his degree he has the rest of his life to explore what he wants to be. This is such an important message for our young black people. We do not have the privilege or the time to be playing games! To this day!
Its time for you to put your son around circles of those currently in college or who has been there.
But as a sidenote he's clearly such a lucky dude to have somebody like you who believes in him in his life 😭 your comment is so sweet.
Would also love to see that video if you're reading kim
Here's an easy argument. A lot of success means dealing with people who ARE credentialed or who ONLY respect people who are credentialed. If you're an artist, that means being connected with people who can buy your art (aka rich), and being able to converse with them persuasively. if you're a community organizer that means dealing with politicians, if you're a blue-collar worker who might want to own a business, that means dealing with banks and investment firms. It's much easier to be successful with the type of experience that means your encounters with these people are useful to you because they're putting you in a class above others. Even for something like acting, the fact of the matter is that the black people who are successful went to college for drama, almost all of them.
A degree in what?
@@ashmeadowphoenix you are on point!! totally true.
I also wanted to add (regarding College debt) that debt is not a moral failing of the individual. It is a SYSTEMIC issue. And many men on that side are obsessed with "wealth building" without fully understanding Capitalism
They are obsessed with the "get money, get b***hes rhetoric
Honestly if someone was streaming for hours about me I’d want to call the cops, that is so alarming. But maybe because I’m not so much in the public eye.
You have inspired me in many ways. The way you handled this was beautiful ❤
Also. I love and miss that green chair. Soooo🙃
The manosphere is getting so out of control. And one of the female pushbacks is literally to stand behind these men??? It's wild to me. It's crazy to think that your views (which everyone here agrees with) are considered "radical" because you believe people deserve to have the right to choose themselves and demand what matches their own self-imbued worth and integrity. Options and equality.
Dude look... its simple no one is arguing yall can't get pumped and dumped. Everyone knows you're are the worlds walking sperm receptacles. We are telling women that ON AVERAGE no man of means is gonna wife up a fat, ran through old hag with kids. Hell sleep with you but he'd be an idiot to marry you. Especially when he has so many options.
So... if you are apart of a group NOT ALL WOMAN but the women who are 72% single mothers, 50% Herpes, 80% Obese and wears someone else's hair on your head.
You might end up having to lower your standards AND NO lizzy is not a 10 sry 🤓
Feminism got out of control a long time ago and we put up with it. The desire for feminist hegemony is a problem for men and women alike. We have a lot more ideas about how to live that ought be heard and debated.
@edtastic If more learned how to actually live and LET live, we wouldn't have to debate. Unless you're attempting to bring everyone under a single life style, why is there a debate? If my out of control feminist self isn't telling you what type of life to lead and simply minding my business, what you worried about it for?
@@edtastic LMFAO, y'all really do live in your own reality. Feminism hasnt even BEGUN to truly percolate the way it truly NEEDS to. That response is a piss poor BS excuse for BM's rampant misogyny. But its not like anything is going to change...
@@edtastic I agree. There doesn’t seem to be room for nuance but it’s really just giving everyone the freedom and options to make their own choices. No matter their race, gender, caste,
That "I have exactly who I want" got me in my feelings sis. Very, very, very best of luck for you and may you have continued bliss.
@24:40 The reason he does this, and goes to bed with the same kind of woman he trashes…this is his covert way of abusing her. Keeping her In her place. Convincing her, and people around her, that HE is good enough for her, and she cannot do better.
He is mocking women like her, so she can know that she doesn’t deserve better and best not leave him, or she will be alone and miserable.
You won’t get me to feel sorry for her, nope! Not at all!
Even tho she is clearly being abused emotionally and mentally. You know why? Cause Any of us can choose this kind of man, but we choose to be alone. So while i sit here man less, trying to figure it out.
She will NOT get my compassion. Because THIS is a choice. And she has accepted the belief that any man, is better than no man. So much so, that she is willing to throw OTHER BW under the bus who look like her JUST to keep her HER man. No girl code. No compassion.
I never thought about it that way 🤔 That makes so much sense.
Pleeeease do a video on the importance and Pros of a college education. I’m so SICK of the narrative that it’s not for everybody….too many young Black kids are using this tag line to try and skip steps only to end up doing nothing serious and waste their 20s
I completely agree with your comment. They want the easy way out.
What about the cons? Doesn't that matter too? People should know the good and the bad when it comes to any endeavor in life. So that their hopes aren't shattered when the cons outweigh the pros in certain instances.
@@SwissMissss the con’s degrees that lead to jobs that can automated or low pay.
@@tam6011 it’s the type of Degree that they’re going for
I’m 21 years old I got an associates degree in HVAC at my community college, but my father wanted me to continue going to school I was hesitant about it then I came to realization now I’m in the process of transferring to a 4 year university.
Getting unsuspectingly pulled into the Manosphere content a few years back has me wary of men content creators now. Those guys have no love for black women or black people for that matter. I'm here for anyone calling out their bs.
You are a lady, a scholar, & a comrade 💕 keep up the excellent work
I'm a Gen X er. I am proud of you Ms Kimberly. A most articulate response.
Ms. Kim is a whole librarian. The way she was reading that youtuber and his gf in the most intellectual, eloquent, and calm manner had me kinda shook ngl.
You are so encouraging, If someone spent that much time defaming you they are threatened by your intelligence
People especially younger, need to realize most of these men are having a Mid life Crisis.
Guys like sneako are in their 20s.
@@brotherumarj3370 true but they are being influenced by guys like Kev. S IN A mid life crisis, criticizing women, sometimes men, telling chick what it means to be feminine, and set in their ways. Classic mid life crisis.
FD Signifer had the same thing happen to him... smh. They were tryna call him gay and other things because he doesn't agree with/follow manosphere rhetoric.
Meanwhile he’s married with two kids smh
“But if I’m regular, what are you?" 😭😭😭
They have to ride someone’s coattails. Remember when rappers use to start beefs to sell records? These manosphere content creators need to stir up drama to gain momentum for their channels. They are trying to start controversy with bigger creators to get views. The pick-me is doing it because she needs validation. It’s the same reason all these pick-mes do anything.
They made their own coattails. Opponents are necessary but the targets are abundant. For Harriet isn’t special or particularly important. They’d rather talk about some real celebrity.
@@edtastic the couple Kimberly is referring to think she is special. I mean why else would someone sit down for hours to talk about someone else? Given that his channel is smaller and less known, he is using Kim to gain more attention for his page... essentially riding on her coattails.
@@edtastic Anyone working 16 hours to degrade another person thinks the person is superior to them. This is a well know tactic used to try to bring another person down to the level you perceive yourself to be on. Men do it all the time to obtain or keep a woman they feel is out of their league.
Y’all are see through.
Desirability is not a virtue or character trait, it's a subjective judgment that only people with a desperate need for external validation let others effect their self esteem with.
Woop there it is.
I'm trying to figure out how disempowered a man needs to be in his real life before he feels like being a cyber bully of black women is an improvement. 👀🙄
My husband has completely changed once these videos started popping up in his feeds.
We got into a bad fight and that’s when I started to notice the videos.
Now his communication skills are garbage. He would never tell me to shut up. Now he does. He used to never let me cry. Now I cry myself to sleep.
Only thing he cares about is sex and work. Only been married a year. :,(
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Wow, I hate that you're going through this.
Get out!! …if he’s not willing to work things out with you
Smh this is terrible. I know nothing of your relationship but please remember you are a human and deserve to be treated that way. Seems like he treated you that way to get you into the marriage.
I’m so sorry to hear that
I can't even guess who she is talking about. But she's absolutely right that lady is living her very own personal hell, my heart aches for her
Many women who are considered 'older' are slamming up against the fact that they have settled for their half-a -man.😂 The cognitive dissodance is real.
Kim, it's the intellectual dragging for me 💅🏿👏🏿. I really love how you take every moment good or bad and you make it into a teachable moment while you can still hear the dragging within. Happy belated birthday 🎉 my hubby's was on the 11th.
When you mentioned how the woman that participated in talking down on you looked all I could think about is …the jokes write themselves every. Single. Time.
BW y'all need to get FAR, FAR, FAR, AWAY from this dysfunctional a*** community.
This clap back was well done. It gave all the grace that I hope we all can follow. ❤❤She was not triggered, emotional or talking out of the side of her neck but so tactfully addressed the person and their commentary w/o shaming and calling them names.
I hope we all aspire to handle bullying this way. Lastly to be honest if he/they were to see this, I think the tone would go over their head 😂
Kim - idk how you do it. You are a scholar, trying to talk to these losers, who don't have the bandwidth to even understand. They don't even meet the prereqs to watch your videos. Not sure what your plan is, but choose you always. We are here for you.
These types of men are sooo pathetic. They get spend hours and resources on attempting to tear down women, hours telling a woman why they don't want them or don't think any man will want them while these women are literally minding their business, thriving in all areas of life and are not missing out on dates the way these lowlifes will make it seem. They assume a woman's worth is tied up in her desirability. Who would want a man who hat brings no value to the equation. It's maddening. Stay unbothered and thriving ladies.
It’s likely narcissistic abuse, too. Explaining the dynamic between them. It’s going to be awful when he leaves, but she may realize how far she fell to have a crumb of companionship from a man who is so deeply lost and trauma filled that he genuinely will never treat her well. It’s a shame and it’s a lie she and women who pick these men are being sold. It’s a sham.
I see you just learn that word narcissistic.
@@navytanutrof1823 it’s learned not learn.
@Navy Tanutrof and now, you've just learned the word "learned". 💀
@@SteveAyanami thanks, as a foreigner in your land of America, I speak 3 languages and English by far is the hardest when it comes to spelling for me.
@@sbond7510 thanks for the lesson, since english is not my maternal language, spelling and sometimes the proper grammar are deffinitely my achilles heel. But seriously dont you think we overuse that term narcissist?
They're talking about the same Britney Renner who had a child with an NBA player, but they supposedly looked down on her as a "predator" for said player being about a year or two younger than her?
And now they're--checks notes 🤔--defending her?
Exactly why I take none of these men’s outrage seriously. None of them are truly concerned about predators
they’re grifters,they will defend the women they’re supposed to hate if they say what they wanna hear it’s hilarious
That NBA player was 7 years younger and the backlash came from the fact that she met him when was he 18 or 19 in college and she was 26. Definitely a side eye there but I agree with everything else you said. It’s grifting at its finest.
@@TheSomethingnew1Yet those same men won’t see anything bad if it was a man in his 30s trying to groom 18, 19 years old women.
There are even men in their 40s who do the same sh*t to 18, 19 years old.... why is there not enough backlash.
@@YouYou-sm8tf well men are being met with vitriol for doing the same thing. Unfortunately it’s from mostly women. Men don’t call out other men when it comes to this. Either way it’s gross. But I’m pretty sure Brit was trying to get a bag and it backfired. She was on live last year admitting to being broke. I think that’s why she’s trying to appeal to the manosphere now. For opportunity.
Its cowardice to attack someone while hiding your face.
Girl, the jokes write themselves. Sis had the gall to be 40+, plus size, dark-skinned, with natural hair (all 4 of which I am), & a baby mama & out here parroting a "man" while he berates a black woman who encourages all black women. Chile.....I just cannot.
“I have exactly who I want”. Yes! No interest in searching for his channel. Thank you for the video ❤
People who are healthy and well-adjusted don't degrade others. They don't hold up physical appearance as the most important thing in life and they care about having real connections with human beings. We are in need of widespread mental health resources. What we're seeing now is a sick society in real time.
I found the man while I want to hear his rant, I don’t want to click the video because I don’t want TH-cam thinking I want to watch that kind of content. Lmao
Yes that part about college is so important!! And I find so much of the people saying you don't need it, didn't go. Going to college allows you more of a chance to live a better life. It's not a guarantee but the chances are high. Worse as someone from Jamaica, I may not be in the field I studied for but my degree opened doors, would have not been able to be living in currently my 3rd country without. So while those people chat, I am here enjoying the experiences that piece of paper allowed me to have.
The work you do is so important and informational. For me, as a non Black (but minority) woman, I sadly see similar things in my community…sigh.
Just want to say I love you and your channels. It hurts to see you treated this way when you're such a kind, positive and uplifting person. I appreciate how you have opened my eyes to how you and Black women are treated.
The funniest thing is that at a point they were so again Brittany calling her at types of names like golddigger and stuff. But when she started singing their tune shesthw most amazing thing that has happened. Honestly people don't know what they want
They literally forgot about how she got pregnant by that young basketball player and were calling her a predator
16 hours???? That's a fan 😭😅
“Reciprocal care” is the name of the game! ❤
The trolls always always call her Harriet. We know her name is Kim 😂😂😂
I am so happy that you see reality, the shallow insults that they throw, and your own power and beauty.
“Bragging about how you acquired the lemon is something else. It’s a choice.” KIM I am not dealing with this today😂. A real lyrical genius.
8 hour live stream?!?!, he a fan he just don't know how to express that extreme love
Using logic and applying the argument to the conclusion is a problem for those people. Their coupling is a very common one in the black community. Why demonize your own normal situation? Their arguments are steeped in a lot of self hatred. Just look at his own situation.
Kimberly, the way this led me down the most bizarre rabbit hole. 😳 The little man and DS attacking each other about their lifestyles and women ... So I went to look, thinking they had to be ballin' with some 10s on their arms. Girl. The regular of it all. 🙈 Why are they so loud? So strange.
At this point I think they are trying to scare all the dudes from average/regular women.
No one to compete with...
@@lizziedanse8335 I think you may be on to something
@@lcfreshh4 no competition, no standard to be compared to. Grifting.
You articulated brilliant, nuanced and authentic analyses to personal and systemic attacks against black women. We love you Kim! Thank you.
The way you talk about your partner and your friends and family is so wonderful 😭💕
Jealous of Brittany Renner’s dating pool? These same men who Brittany said she was disgusted with herself for evening sleeping with them. The math is not mathing. Let's be real, who is in a much better position than the other despite what these men say or their desirability politics?
The little man’s woman has low self esteem. Not only is he physically undesirable (short, crippled, and funny looking), he’s financially challenged, and he lacks critical thinking skills. I almost felt sorry for her until I faced the fact that she chose to be with him for 14 years knowing that a man at the bottom doesn’t value her. She is projecting her self hate onto you.
36:07 "While y'all are figuring it out, you cannot expect BW en masse to be rehabilitation centers for broken BM." 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Translation
BW are not wife material..
@@wadeoverwater No one wants to be your struggle wife!
@@wadeoverwater If you believe that a wife's purpose is to be a rehabilitation center for a broken man, then you are not husband material.
@@Lynn.B.
Said by who?
Perpetually single BW.
@@wadeoverwater BM are not husband material.
I first found out about you in college. I used to read your articles online. So happy to see a face with who you are.
A scholastic READ!! ✨
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Yes!
You living in this man’s head rent free.
😂😂😂😂😂
How to Neutralize Articulately. Also the Whitney shirt is so appros.
What are these big differences between college educated people and tradesmen?
How are these differences so vast that the idea of romance between individuals of these groups is unthinkable?
Lets be honest the women who spend their time auditioning for these roles are usually the same roles they will need help getting out of.
Don’t let these clownesphere dudes bait you they are mad and jealous that their scare tactics has backfired. When you have to use insults or ad hominems you have already lost the argument.
You dragged them in the most professional & articulate way possible 💜
1ST AN 8 HR LIVE STREAM IS ALARMING AND UN HINGED af!! i would legitimately be scared simultaneously hella flattered! #2. the pettiest most thorough classsy nice nasty hurtful read EVAAAAAA LMAOOOO!! annihilation literally! trust they feelings are hurt hahah
Yesssss! I've been saying this over and over 45:02! I feel like I have been on repeat... and said it again this AM. I even had the conversation this past weekend (AGAIN) that the trades often times represent a "ceiling". Ultimately, I chose college educated men because of the exposure and types of conversations. It is what it is... people do not like when I say such things.
I have no idea who verbally attacked you glad you cleared it up. (Yes, I live under a rock)
YOU BETTER GET THEM TOGETHER KIM, I love a classy, intellectual read!!!
I often just lurk when I watch your content (as a feminist I enjoy listening to your content because it can help me learn, and sometimes even makes me see things from a black womans point of view - but I often don't comment because I know my pasty white english self isn't among the target audience. I don't usually think I have anything of substance to really add to the dialogue, so I stay in the back seat so to speak).
I just want to say I admire your class and patience. It takes guts to put your face out there on a video (something this guy doesn't have) and speak out and express yourself so openly - it also takes a lot of self restraint to turn the other cheek (I agree it's for he best, guys like this just thrive on attention/views). But I also like that you don't just accept the abuse lying down, and chose to use it in a productive way to open up a conversation about Manosphere men and the women who weirdly tolerate and/or perhaps even love them. Your ability to turn just about anything into a teachable moment is what I enjoy so much about this channel.
You’re giving healed & high frequency!!! I love this for you. Sending blessings!! 💖
The Reverend Pastor Kim, You be preaching for FREE on this app! for FREE!
The idea that you can simply partner across class and educational lines is truly maddening. Being a college graduate and having exposure to that kind of diversity challenges all your beliefs and refines them. It also shapes what you enjoy doing in your free time, where you want to spend your money, and your overall politic. Due to patriarchy, a college educated woman would need to work with a blue color man to bring him into her world and more importantly, he’d have to come willingly and without pushback. He’d have to be a willing student and pupil. Lots of women have tried to do this and found that patriarchal teaching is too entrenched in men’s minds to actually become a teachable in this area.
Kim, I’m not black myself but still love the message of your videos.
Thank you Kim.❤
whew, a classy read.
😂😂😂 You stayed just on this side of petty. I ❤ it!!!! You teetered, ma'am!!
Kim shout out to you for watching someone talk about you for 16 HOURS. SIX.TEEN.WHOLE. HOURS??? Sis. I could never. Even if they were singing my praises I'd be like "...no thanks". I can't even tolerate that. That's too much me for me lol.
ETA I understand the importance of college. I have a whole Master's degree and I love learning. LOVE learning love school lol. However, I work in education and I also understand college is not for everyone. College focuses mostly on one way to learn and understand information. And for some (please note not the majority), that one way of learning doesn't mesh with the way their brain interprets and understands information. Like... literally lol. If you have the support and tools needed to make college accessible, I think you should try to go. However, if there are no tools to support making that learning and understanding accessible for folks who's brains work differently...it's not worth their pain and finances.