Joe, I want to thank you for bringing all these cars to us. It really helps when we need to buy new cars, so we can know the real experience. Great video as always
@@ML_1515probably quite good. These newer VW crossovers and SUVs can be pretty damn reliable if you stay on top of your routine maintenance and keep on top of the maintenance guidelines. A little more cost per year on average but worth it
I'm OK with the flat black only because I think it holds up better to those nicks from stones and other road material. I do love that blue color. Agree on the fake exhaust - so stupid. I test drove a vehicle almost exactly like this and really enjoyed the experience. Loved the digital dashboard. I'm just waiting till next year to trade in my car... Want to see the redesign on the Sante Fe.
Thanks Joe ... my wife was considering an Atlas a couple years back .... but ... she went with a different / smaller vehicle ... a Sub Forester Sport because of MPG, price ... when I drove the Atlas V6 the engine didn't really grab my attention ... it kinda sounded like the one you drove ... lol ... a little bit grainy/unrefined/out-of-breath... but having said that ... the Sub Forester is grainier and more unrefined ... If I were to buy this or the Honda Passport ... the Passport is a no-brainer ... reliability / maintenance costs / resale value / iVTM-4 (SH-AWD in Acura lingo) ... Keith Chicago IL
OK the Atlas Cross Sport V6 SE with Tech is in the driveway now. Passport looks goofy in comparison and has a timing belt engine. Driving yes the Hondas quicker but the Atlas is a work horse not a touring car, on my 3rd VW and just used to the shifter layout and manual mode.
I have the 2018 Atlas SE with Tech v6 (ASE) and I LOVE IT. Fully functional 3rd row that my 6'2" 280 lbs body fits very comfortably in. Lay the 3rd row down, behind the 2nd row, and I have 55.5 cu. ft. and the Cross Sport (CS) has 40.3 cu. ft. All of the seats folded down, I have 96.8 cu. ft. and the CS has 77.8 cu. ft. Granted I lose space with my 3rd row in the upright position of only 20.6 cu. ft. You also lose some interior cargo height in the CS due to the angled slope towards the back end. The interior head room is a bit less in the CS. Front head room is 39.4" in the CS and 41.3" in the ASE. Rear head room in the CS is 37.8" and 40.4" in the ASE. It's not meant to be sporty like the Audi, Mitsubishi, or any other SMALLER LIGHTER SUV. This vehicle has a gross weight of 5,842 (curb weight of 4,464 and the ASE is 6,019 (curb weight of 4,594). My V6 can garner about 365 to 380 miles on a full tank of gas city driving and I have hit 480 to 525 highway long distance and in ECO mode. It all comes down to how you drive and the conditions it's being driven in. Snow mode and off road are incredible. These are my own personal opinions and the numbers are from Edmunds & VW. I am in the process of obtaining either a 2023 Atlas SE with Tech or the whole remodeled 2024 later this summer.
Totally agree. I have had my ‘23 for 4 months and am shocked by how poor the gas mileage is. Ridiculously crappy. How, in this day and age, how has VW not remedied this?
I'm okay with the flat black around the wheel wells because in the states that salt roads like PA ,over time it'll help the wells from rusting. But yes I agree with you about the rear wiper and fake exhausts. Both are a zonk
I own a 2021 Cross Sport. I like everything about it except the V6 engine. It doesnt have enough power. I wish VW would offer their 2.5L Turbo 4 cylinder with 300HP they used to put into the Golf GTI
Great work Joe keep up the great work. I had a suggestion, would you mind doing a review of the mammoth pickup track that is running wild and has people talking about it
276hp Natural is not Bad , Adding a Single Turbo and some Good Turning you can easly get 400hp+ and Twin turbo your would be in the Neighborhood of 500hp + That is what i would do right after buying One. There is soo much space in the Engine Bay
I gotta say I got the Jeep in this comparison. After we found out we are expecting, I had to get rid of my Arteon for something bigger. I looked at the Atlas since I was use to the Volkswagen infotainment system but after messing around with the Jeep, I think I got more bang for my buck. The UConnect system is really intuitive, the Alpine speaker system sounds amazing, seats are a lot nicer, I have surround camera, fam cam, I even have a second dash for the passenger, and a lot more options for a smidge more than what Volkswagen is asking for.
What was price of Jeep if you don’t mind me asking. I was in same situation as you but went with the Atlas Crossport SEL r line. Jeep with same options was a bit more when came to price.
@@Chyapoppyseed it was about $55k, but it’s the L so it’s three rows which is what we needed. I think with the 2 row it would’ve been a little cheaper if it was Limited trim.
I have a late production 2018 Atlas SE w/tech. I say late because the first run in 18 had a ton of issues. VW fixed most for the 2nd run. 99k miles and no major issues. I maintain it, mostly tollway driving, 23mpg w/ vr6, 4 motion. I was disappointed when this came out. It’s definitely not a poor man’s Q8. Just looks too frumpy. Hopefully a redesign is coming soon.
When my warranty goes out I’ve been planning on seeing what happens. Supposedly ie’s tune makes 318 hp on the atlas. That’s with I don’t think any mods of any kind even. It’s just a detuned gti r engine to start with.
Great review! Was the windshield on this one cracked though? I caught it near the end of the video then rewatched it to make sure I wasn't losing it lol
@@db9071 LMAO! True story! I went to test drive a brand new V.W one time and the A.C did not work. That was how I figured out V.W’s where junk, but I sure liked the look and feel of them. 😂
Did the heated seats not indicate off when you turned on the ventilated seats? Haven't seen that before in a vehicle, usually one cancels out the other.
Vw could have saved a bundle and just given us the shorter, european tiguan. We in n.a. Get only the stretched version. The taos and shorter tiguan are almost same size.
Please ask Your friends in VW if there would be PHEV Altas soon - also for Europe, ok? Regular Atlas is the most family friendly suv, Ford Expedition is 2nd - just because it is too big:)
How's that just 1 R badge on the 2022 VW ATLAS SE, the 2023 Ford F150 RAPTOR R has TWO R badges one on the front and one on the back what's with VW??????????????
It’s a nice looking car, I’d have to zonk the v6 being underpowered and no turbo. I guess if they would have added the turbo then it would have been too much of a competition against the Q8.
No turbo is needed for longterm reliability (they alreay have a turbo 4). They need to make it 3.8 and get 330HP/290TQ out of it. for what it offers currently,it's over priced.
Empty engine bay 😂. As an engineer, I can tell that this is a telltale sign that the main thing they wanted to achieve with this car is to make it big.
& to keep an anti-aerodynamik high front end to satisfy the reptilian brain of childish males. Even the refresh front-end of the '23 Escape get more truckish. Almost all suvs have the space to put the spare tire above the engine as the europeans did in the past
It’s empty because vr6 is so compact that they could fit that engine in a Golf. Beauty of this engine is that it is not as wide as a v6 and not as long as an inline 6. I have a degree in mechanical engineering myself and it’s surprising that you don’t understand why that engine bay is so spacious
@@SacrificeBreedsSuccess ok if you say it's not as wide as a v6 so the angle between the 2 cylinder banks should be more acute resulting in a taller engine like the diagram on : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine#:~:text=The%20Volkswagen%20VR6%20engine%20was,to%20a%20traditional%20V6%20engine.
@Zman I know that. They have used VR6 since the times of MK3 Golfs. To me it looks like a bad attempt to milk a platform in a lesser brand…while charging 50k and giving you a half empty engine bay as a reminder of what the chassis could handle. I would’ve been okay with that if they provided maybe a frunk to use that extra space? Half empty engine bay in a 50k car is pitiful to me. Although some might say that you get the same platform of a Lambo and and Audi for less price. To each their own.
Something I've been curious about lately. What is the main thing that determines if an engine has a significantly lower torque value vs horsepower? It seems like most of the time they're nearly equal, but in some vehicles, I see that the torque might be 100 less than horsepower.
TBH for daily use, smoothness is the most important factor. You can compare a v6 from Japanese auto maker to a let's say BMW 3 series which has a i4 in it. The bmw will be faster but not near as comfortable as the v6
These used to have horrific reviews, my us, this is not be on our list, they aren’t built very good. Most have a horrible delay when accelerating, which is scary.
grand cherokee is better all around. not debatable. better looking, wider range of luxury. The comp i think would be the Grand cherokee limited and is much better option. However, on both vehicles i do not like the flatt black non painted fenders. to get that in jeep you have to spend over 60k. at least in the atlas, you can get the front and rear bumper painted for under 50k
WHO ACTUALLY HAS ONE OF THESE? I have one and I'm wondering if you're driver side window is loud as shit when it's windy out? It drives me crazy. I even went back to the dealer to test drive another. Maybe in extra tripping but it's incredibly annoying
Joe, I want to thank you for bringing all these cars to us. It really helps when we need to buy new cars, so we can know the real experience. Great video as always
3:34 I totally agree. Manufacturers need to stop putting flat black around the wheels. It makes it look cheap.
My first SUV from VW!! Brilliant video Joe.
Any uodate?
@@ML_1515probably quite good. These newer VW crossovers and SUVs can be pretty damn reliable if you stay on top of your routine maintenance and keep on top of the maintenance guidelines. A little more cost per year on average but worth it
I'm OK with the flat black only because I think it holds up better to those nicks from stones and other road material. I do love that blue color. Agree on the fake exhaust - so stupid. I test drove a vehicle almost exactly like this and really enjoyed the experience. Loved the digital dashboard. I'm just waiting till next year to trade in my car... Want to see the redesign on the Sante Fe.
This guy is a whole lot of different vibe,
Making car reviews fun to watch 😂
❤❤Twinkie parking spots😂😂
Keep going Mr ratiti 💯
You got it man!
We're getting close to that magic number Joe. 1 Million! U got this man. 👍 I wanted to request you to do an unveil of the 2024 GMC Sierra HD please.
I will track one down for you.
@@ericB3444 Nope it's SlOOPY DOOP BOOP
@@RaitisRides Your the best Joe! Can't wait
@@RaitisRides also Acadia SLT Elevation
Thanks Joe ... my wife was considering an Atlas a couple years back .... but ... she went with a different / smaller vehicle ... a Sub Forester Sport because of MPG, price ... when I drove the Atlas V6 the engine didn't really grab my attention ... it kinda sounded like the one you drove ... lol ... a little bit grainy/unrefined/out-of-breath... but having said that ... the Sub Forester is grainier and more unrefined ... If I were to buy this or the Honda Passport ... the Passport is a no-brainer ... reliability / maintenance costs / resale value / iVTM-4 (SH-AWD in Acura lingo) ... Keith Chicago IL
That is some really great ownership input Keith.
OK the Atlas Cross Sport V6 SE with Tech is in the driveway now. Passport looks goofy in comparison and has a timing belt engine. Driving yes the Hondas quicker but the Atlas is a work horse not a touring car, on my 3rd VW and just used to the shifter layout and manual mode.
Is there a huge crack in the windshield?
I have the 2018 Atlas SE with Tech v6 (ASE) and I LOVE IT. Fully functional 3rd row that my 6'2" 280 lbs body fits very comfortably in. Lay the 3rd row down, behind the 2nd row, and I have 55.5 cu. ft. and the Cross Sport (CS) has 40.3 cu. ft. All of the seats folded down, I have 96.8 cu. ft. and the CS has 77.8 cu. ft. Granted I lose space with my 3rd row in the upright position of only 20.6 cu. ft. You also lose some interior cargo height in the CS due to the angled slope towards the back end. The interior head room is a bit less in the CS. Front head room is 39.4" in the CS and 41.3" in the ASE. Rear head room in the CS is 37.8" and 40.4" in the ASE.
It's not meant to be sporty like the Audi, Mitsubishi, or any other SMALLER LIGHTER SUV. This vehicle has a gross weight of 5,842 (curb weight of 4,464 and the ASE is 6,019 (curb weight of 4,594). My V6 can garner about 365 to 380 miles on a full tank of gas city driving and I have hit 480 to 525 highway long distance and in ECO mode. It all comes down to how you drive and the conditions it's being driven in. Snow mode and off road are incredible.
These are my own personal opinions and the numbers are from Edmunds & VW. I am in the process of obtaining either a 2023 Atlas SE with Tech or the whole remodeled 2024 later this summer.
simply put.....you do the BEST reviews !
You are spot on sir ! Joe does the most comprehensive and entertaining reviews anywhere.
The Atlas is on the MQB platform. The Audi Q8 is on the MLB Evo platform. Not the same thing.
Exactly what I was gonna say
Joe and Steven work so well together.
Thanks David for saying that!
KappaPride
Great review. The suv looks a lot like my Volkswagen Tourage here in the U.K.
I have this 2021 i love the car hate the gas 15-17mpg average. Slow for the amount of power and gas that it waste.
Totally agree. I have had my ‘23 for 4 months and am shocked by how poor the gas mileage is. Ridiculously crappy. How, in this day and age, how has VW not remedied this?
@@thomasfrawley5395 I recommend u put it in custom mode steering normal, engine sport, I have been getting better mpg, also smoother response.
Too heavy for that size engine. Thanks for the info though.
I get 27 mpg highway and 21 city on my '21 VR6 4M. Not sure how you're driving but this has been my experience.
"To the door panels!" My favorite line lol
Good stuff Joe! Like the interior and the tech. Not in love with the exterior design. Looks a bit military to me. Thanks for bringing it to us.
Thank you for being super supportive Michael!
Hey Raiti's Rides Can You Make The 2023 VW Tiguan SE-R Line Black
Will do Sunjib!
I love it Joe and Lori and Steve and keep up the great work real true 👍 and I love the video real true 👍 💯💯💯
I (personally) call it the budget Q8
I'm okay with the flat black around the wheel wells because in the states that salt roads like PA ,over time it'll help the wells from rusting. But yes I agree with you about the rear wiper and fake exhausts. Both are a zonk
I like the three seat memory for the Husband, Wife and the tow truck driver! 😂
Is it better then cadillac XT 6 premium 2022
I own a 2021 Cross Sport. I like everything about it except the V6 engine. It doesnt have enough power. I wish VW would offer their 2.5L Turbo 4 cylinder with 300HP they used to put into the Golf GTI
Thanks for sharing that great personal ownership experience.
Wish they used LED for the front turn signals
Great work Joe keep up the great work. I had a suggestion, would you mind doing a review of the mammoth pickup track that is running wild and has people talking about it
Will do Samuel.
@@RaitisRides thank you very much Sir 👍👍
Joe when will Toyota release the price on the 2023 Prius ? I’m dying to know if I’ll be able to afford one or not
@14:01 JOE'S "2022 Matt Watson Carwow'ism of the Year" (A high compliment indeed!!)
Squick! squick! squick squick!
I wonder how this SUV handles in the snow and on ice. That's the only reason I'm considering this SUV for the coming winter.
Amazing video Joe!
Thanks Luis for being so supportive!
@@RaitisRides You're welcome
'look on down below' yeah a chop front end too would have been smarter unless you want to put a blower.
276hp Natural is not Bad , Adding a Single Turbo and some Good Turning you can easly get 400hp+ and Twin turbo your would be in the Neighborhood of 500hp +
That is what i would do right after buying One. There is soo much space in the Engine Bay
I have 2020 Atlas Cross Sports in the same color and it looks identical lol... it's like they barely tried.
You think VW is reliable on 2022 thinking back and remembering some of the electrical problems on previous models Joe?
One can hope.
I like the clean interior styling……..exterior, not so much. I’m keeping my grand Cherokee summit 😎. Thanks Raiti’s !! Whoops, and Steven 😃
Good call Tom! You are so very welcome.
That Silver on the Dashboard is Soo Chevy Design in the 2000's. I Hate that , it looks soo Cheap
Hey Joe, Venus and Serena ain’t twins
I gotta say I got the Jeep in this comparison. After we found out we are expecting, I had to get rid of my Arteon for something bigger. I looked at the Atlas since I was use to the Volkswagen infotainment system but after messing around with the Jeep, I think I got more bang for my buck. The UConnect system is really intuitive, the Alpine speaker system sounds amazing, seats are a lot nicer, I have surround camera, fam cam, I even have a second dash for the passenger, and a lot more options for a smidge more than what Volkswagen is asking for.
I’m personally not a fan of keep wranglers and all types of wagoneers but the trackhawk is my dream suv
Thanks for sharing that great input from your experience!
Nice...got an arteon for me and a jeep GCL for the wifey..Sounds like you have an Overland or Summit at the least,...very nice
What was price of Jeep if you don’t mind me asking. I was in same situation as you but went with the Atlas Crossport SEL r line. Jeep with same options was a bit more when came to price.
@@Chyapoppyseed it was about $55k, but it’s the L so it’s three rows which is what we needed. I think with the 2 row it would’ve been a little cheaper if it was Limited trim.
Is the cracked windshield an optional upgrade?
I have a late production 2018 Atlas SE w/tech. I say late because the first run in 18 had a ton of issues. VW fixed most for the 2nd run. 99k miles and no major issues. I maintain it, mostly tollway driving, 23mpg w/ vr6, 4 motion. I was disappointed when this came out. It’s definitely not a poor man’s Q8. Just looks too frumpy. Hopefully a redesign is coming soon.
I like the flat black with the white and dark gray paint jobs. The other colors do look weird.
Those are the 21 inch Braselton wheels not 20 inch
❤️🚗 Thank you Joe and Stephen! 🤠❤️
I’d get a cross sport with the 2.0 turbo and throw a tune on it. That would be a fun suv.
When my warranty goes out I’ve been planning on seeing what happens. Supposedly ie’s tune makes 318 hp on the atlas. That’s with I don’t think any mods of any kind even. It’s just a detuned gti r engine to start with.
Most doll interior I’ve ever seen specially at that price point.
This one reminds me of a less less luxurious Lincoln Corsair, especially with the atlas emblem that’s located on the side door and overall build.
Great review! Was the windshield on this one cracked though? I caught it near the end of the video then rewatched it to make sure I wasn't losing it lol
Prius review?
New here. Love your Description style
I’m going with the Jeep but I do like both of them though so that kinda adds to mess of going back and forth about them.
It is a nice SUV. Looks well built and nice features but man I allloooottt of plastic. Thanks for showing us.
I love the color overall it looks good. 56k little pricey for what it is .
I had a V8 Toureag if spelled correctly. It was awesome, miss it.
Serena and Venus are not twins. Venus has been doing the business about 15 months longer.
This is very true!
I love mine, my one complaint is the transmission can be a little jerky sometimes.
We have the tiguan and it's true, same thing here but funny thing is it's the same transmission that's used in the rav 4 lol
@@timothybracken1728 , Leave it to V.W to take something good and figure out a way to make it junk! 😅
@@figmo7494 Thats for sure, junk.
@@db9071 LMAO! True story! I went to test drive a brand new V.W one time and the A.C did not work. That was how I figured out V.W’s where junk, but I sure liked the look and feel of them. 😂
@@figmo7494 well it seems that jatco trany in the mitsubishi are reliable
Is there dual climate in this??
Hey Raiti I’ve been looking at the Atlas cross sport and Tiguan, can you do a review on the 23 Tiguan for comparison please 😁
The Q8 and the Cross Sport do not share a platform lol.
Did the heated seats not indicate off when you turned on the ventilated seats? Haven't seen that before in a vehicle, usually one cancels out the other.
You can run both
Vw could have saved a bundle and just given us the shorter, european tiguan. We in n.a. Get only the stretched version. The taos and shorter tiguan are almost same size.
Pretty sure those are 21” and not 20” wheels?
Thanks you for info.
Joey. Correction to you. These are 21 inch wheels. You said 20 inch 🛞. When you said that I said. Know. They are 21 inch
I think I’ll just keep my gli autobahn for now 😄
Is not bad, it looks good and the cargo area is great but VW doesn't come to my mind when I think about getting a new car.
This is a very good point!
Is that a crack in the windshield??
I never understood the trend of fake exhaust tips. It doesn’t look good or stylish. If those exhaust tips were real would look great
Two row or three row ???
Please ask Your friends in VW if there would be PHEV Altas soon - also for Europe, ok? Regular Atlas is the most family friendly suv, Ford Expedition is 2nd - just because it is too big:)
That still has the old VW mib2 infotainment system. Come on!
Tell me about it.
Not enough of a performance upgrade from the 2.0t to the V6 in the Atlas. Too bad they don't offer the Atlas version in the Tiguan.
They were just going for efficiency with its original tune on the Tiguan. It can do the same power with a simple tune and still be reliable.
@@wadeepperson6906 A void the warranty. VW can do better.
2022 Volkswagen Atlas Cross Sport SEL 4MOTION AWD R-Line!
How's that just 1 R badge on the 2022 VW ATLAS SE, the 2023 Ford F150 RAPTOR R has TWO R badges one on the front and one on the back what's with VW??????????????
It’s a nice looking car, I’d have to zonk the v6 being underpowered and no turbo. I guess if they would have added the turbo then it would have been too much of a competition against the Q8.
No turbo is needed for longterm reliability (they alreay have a turbo 4). They need to make it 3.8 and get 330HP/290TQ out of it. for what it offers currently,it's over priced.
Empty engine bay 😂. As an engineer, I can tell that this is a telltale sign that the main thing they wanted to achieve with this car is to make it big.
& to keep an anti-aerodynamik high front end to satisfy the reptilian brain of childish males. Even the refresh front-end of the '23 Escape get more truckish. Almost all suvs have the space to put the spare tire above the engine as the europeans did in the past
It’s empty because vr6 is so compact that they could fit that engine in a Golf. Beauty of this engine is that it is not as wide as a v6 and not as long as an inline 6. I have a degree in mechanical engineering myself and it’s surprising that you don’t understand why that engine bay is so spacious
@@SacrificeBreedsSuccess ok if you say it's not as wide as a v6 so the angle between the 2 cylinder banks should be more acute resulting in a taller engine like the diagram on : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VR6_engine#:~:text=The%20Volkswagen%20VR6%20engine%20was,to%20a%20traditional%20V6%20engine.
@Zman I know that. They have used VR6 since the times of MK3 Golfs.
To me it looks like a bad attempt to milk a platform in a lesser brand…while charging 50k and giving you a half empty engine bay as a reminder of what the chassis could handle.
I would’ve been okay with that if they provided maybe a frunk to use that extra space? Half empty engine bay in a 50k car is pitiful to me.
Although some might say that you get the same platform of a Lambo and and Audi for less price. To each their own.
I think the same like Scotty about VW.
I like the jeep Grand Cherokee is this cheaper tho ?
Like this midsize SUV not ugly the body is nice though VWs aren't bad cars stuck with a Jeep instead.
Why hasn’t VW put a larger infotainment screen in like a 12 inch and real exhausts? Deal breaker!
Something I've been curious about lately. What is the main thing that determines if an engine has a significantly lower torque value vs horsepower? It seems like most of the time they're nearly equal, but in some vehicles, I see that the torque might be 100 less than horsepower.
TBH for daily use, smoothness is the most important factor. You can compare a v6 from Japanese auto maker to a let's say BMW 3 series which has a i4 in it. The bmw will be faster but not near as comfortable as the v6
Bore/stroke determines that. Longer stroke, higher torque. Also the runner length on the intake manifold changes torque outputs.
They make toilet bowls with led lighting!? Where have *I* been!?
These used to have horrific reviews, my us, this is not be on our list, they aren’t built very good. Most have a horrible delay when accelerating, which is scary.
I think I’d like a 3rd row
...then get one
Hey I have led lights in my toilet bowls 😅
thanks
Very attractive vehicle, except for the fake vents.
That camera sticking out is so wack.
grand cherokee is better all around. not debatable. better looking, wider range of luxury. The comp i think would be the Grand cherokee limited and is much better option. However, on both vehicles i do not like the flatt black non painted fenders. to get that in jeep you have to spend over 60k. at least in the atlas, you can get the front and rear bumper painted for under 50k
Those are 21 inch wheels. The se with tech comes with 20 inchers! But good review on the cs. Not digging the 2024 model.
0:29 No Jetta or Passat
Love the VR6 engine turbo would be terrible
This is a very good point!
As soon as you take this into auto car wash, that from camera is going to get knocked off the mounting.
WHO ACTUALLY HAS ONE OF THESE?
I have one and I'm wondering if you're driver side window is loud as shit when it's windy out? It drives me crazy. I even went back to the dealer to test drive another. Maybe in extra tripping but it's incredibly annoying
Reader's digest or TV guide!! You're out of control sir 😝😝🤣🤣
That is a lot of money still for not having a third row
Or LED front turn signals
...they do make a third row..it's called the Atlas....this is a Cross Sport
Just picked up one for my wife for 39,000. It is a dream to drive.
Hi
Hi There!
Why would a toilet bowl need led lights? 🤣
Think about it.
Basically a fwd lambo urus with 2 less cylinders n 4
yup, that's the only difference
Awesome.
I am glad that you are liking this one.
@@RaitisRides I know,it perfectly describes “the people’s car” very nicely.
Heyyyy Q8 on a budget! Lol
Quick question were you driving a vehicle with a cracked windshield?😂😂😂