Great test with a positive outlook even after the discovery of the burnt motor and ESC! Great content, your exactly right, we learned the limits of that combo and it all just apart of the hobby! Thanks for the vid Joe! Keep it up brother 👍
Great job Joe - you let the smoke out ! I don’t know why complete failures are so cool. That was awesome. I guess it’s the 8 year still in my brain. Can’t get too mad at pushing the limits
Aw man! Was so looking forward to the 8s run 🤣 Just purchased the SCX6 myself, uploaded a few stock videos but ready for upgrades now, and need to sort a clicking diff… I’ll be taking note from your videos as always 💪🏼😃
Well thank you for over Powering your motor !!! Now every time I attempt to think I want to try! 8s I will remember this. So I owe you a big thank you for saving me $200 I enjoy all your videos🥸 Thanks
most guys know that you can over gear a motor...but you can under gear one as well. I'm not sure if that is what happened here...but 20mph with 6s just feels like that motor was able to spin up too fast and/or too high.
Definitely part of it man I've only ever killed one brushless motor like that. It was a traxxas velenion vxl 3s system I'm not sure what even caused it to go but it had seen some abuse over the years so it's hard to day
Better title "how to lose $350 in two seconds flat". Thanks for the information that's more valuable to those of us who like to modify than you might think.
Yeah well…. I ordered another 1650/mmx8s system, then I came to my senses and ordered another motor, the 1260kv. So for me it was a bit more than that.
Those 1717 1650’s see to grenade quite often. I think there’s an issue with the Kevlar wrap. Castle replaced mine under warranty…. Only had about 10 1/2 throttle 8s runs on it
I recently put that same system in my scx6 ….bought the combo used with 2 runs on it (it was super clean and looked brand new) I literally ran it 2 more times on 8s and the armature seized and smoked just like yours did …..ripped around in second gear for about 5 minutes each time but mostly did some crawling in 1st gear…..not too impressed. I did like the power tho and might order just a new motor, then just run on 4 or 6s
Expensive lessons, thank you for the sacrifice brother, you kept your cool, I would have lost it, seems lately everything is at a higher price point, I know why they say it, just dont fully believe it, companies making up for past lost revenue is what I think is blasting these prices in the stratosphere lol😎
All bushings no bearings yep been there on a 1:10 slash all stock brushless with 3s ran in high grass 4 3s lipos back to back got crap hot lol but your test was in ideal conditions
Hi , im looking in buying an rc , m'y choice as stoped on two models, i would like toi gave tout advise on m'y choices is IT possible to get in touche privately, thank you
Oh Heck that magic smoke come out of both of them 😝 😃👉 Amain, Amazon and eBay are Great places, I also shop Hobbytown and my Affiliate with Redcat Racing. I've not spent the amount that you have but almost 3k this year through all... ✌🤠👍 HFLPRCing 👍😎👍 AOAH 🌟 RCF4L 🙏 Stay Safe and Play Healthy Brother Joe 🤜🇺🇸🤛 BOV4L HOOAH ❣️
Do you get a discount on vitavon ? Or is it just that good where you will spend your own cash on each vehicle? Honest question no disrespect or bitching . I’m looking at buying some .
@@ExocagedRC yes I did see the hobby Wing which is what I tend to use but I've actually never really had a failure with a hobby wing I have burnt up a few castles. But that's just my experience a lot of people like them little castles
- 1650kv is 6S max unless it’s a speed run with a larger pinion. What you aren’t accounting for is the extreme acceleration in low gear causing too much shear force.
@4:25 their was a tiny bit of smoke you can see it just above where the battery was connected, I can’t wait to try higher voltage on my crawler haha 🍻😄
ya i hear ya brotha!!!!!! my wife is on the verge of de-nuttin me after all the money i spend on the hobby lol......".it was an accident " i tell her ,or its a limited addition or "i need It"...etc!! funny how she always calls bullshit on me, hehehe. i got heavy fingers Joe,i'm just lookin at stuff but my hand accidentally falls on the buy button,....stupid hand always gettin me in trouble;)
It shouldn't have. By my calculations a fully charged 8S lipo should max out at 55,440 RPM in that 1650 KV motor. It is rated for 56,000 RPM. It's close but it's still below the rating.
yeah, in theory it should not go above the max like Do RC stated but it was pretty much a no load situation where it hit its max rpm and didn't like it very much!
@@DoRC - 1650kv is 6S max unless it’s a speed run with a larger pinion. What you aren’t accounting for is the extreme acceleration in low gear causing too much centripetal force.
@@kingwillie206 acceleration doesn't cause centripetal force. Rotation does. The rate at which the object gets up to speed does not affect centripetal force.
Great test with a positive outlook even after the discovery of the burnt motor and ESC! Great content, your exactly right, we learned the limits of that combo and it all just apart of the hobby! Thanks for the vid Joe! Keep it up brother 👍
Great job Joe - you let the smoke out ! I don’t know why complete failures are so cool. That was awesome. I guess it’s the 8 year still in my brain. Can’t get too mad at pushing the limits
I would've probably been in tears after this , you're incredibly calm
Well, it sucks but luckily I’m in a position to replace it and it didn’t actually break anything on the truck.
@@ExocagedRC that's excellent, it's good to have spares around in this hobby
That's just part of a fun rc hobby.Sometime things will break.We always learn from from our mistakes.And move forward to make things better.
Really cool to see you really fry something. I appreciate you walking through all the upgrades.
Thanks man. Yeah I do destroy things from time to time but I’d rather not. LoL
Wow, 8 seconds?! Low speed is fine, but in high speed mode it's awesome. It's like a monster truck.
Interesting.😃👍👍👍
lol yeah
I have the same setup with a 23 tooth pinion on 8s . It’s been running great! Good look on the setup 👍
Great video.
I prefer to think that RCs are virtually immune from catastrophic failure...
...Some failures are just more expensive than others.
😂😂 true!
Carnage...all in the name of fun and our entertainment...thanks my friend!!!
Video after video perfectly demonstrating “How Not To Drive Your RC” Instant 0-100% throttle in 1st gear pegged at full RPM. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Aw man! Was so looking forward to the 8s run 🤣
Just purchased the SCX6 myself, uploaded a few stock videos but ready for upgrades now, and need to sort a clicking diff… I’ll be taking note from your videos as always 💪🏼😃
When I get the new parts in I'll give it another try, it will be new so will be under warranty right? LOL
@@ExocagedRC as long as they don’t watch you videos then warranty should cover the inevitable 😂
Nice one man. Dis a number on that motor
I had the same set up... and mine caught on fire. Castle motor and ESC set up ARE JUNK!!!
Always something to learn by observing someone else’s catastrophic failure LOL Awesome content. Loving the December drive em all series BTW
Here within 5 minutes lol. But I'm not up at 2am often lol. Have a good day Joe!
Sometimes it's not up 2 us wen the video up loads I hate that especially wen they drop really really late...but the videos help out tho..✌👋🌍🇺🇸
Yeah I'm enjoying your Christmas drive some very interesting and cool rigs and a merry Christmas and happy trailing
Thanks man!
Well thank you for over Powering your motor !!! Now every time I attempt to think I want to try! 8s I will remember this. So I owe you a big thank you for saving me $200 I enjoy all your videos🥸
Thanks
most guys know that you can over gear a motor...but you can under gear one as well. I'm not sure if that is what happened here...but 20mph with 6s just feels like that motor was able to spin up too fast and/or too high.
Wow... You're really going above an beyond !!
lol well I don't intentionally mess stuff up
Definitely part of it man I've only ever killed one brushless motor like that. It was a traxxas velenion vxl 3s system I'm not sure what even caused it to go but it had seen some abuse over the years so it's hard to day
Smoking Joe EXO!!! Carnage sucks but it is cool to watch!!!🤘🤘🤘
Better title "how to lose $350 in two seconds flat". Thanks for the information that's more valuable to those of us who like to modify than you might think.
Yeah well…. I ordered another 1650/mmx8s system, then I came to my senses and ordered another motor, the 1260kv. So for me it was a bit more than that.
@@ExocagedRC Haha! If it's ok I'm going to have to live vicariously through this one.
Looked like a sweet setup in the SCX6 on 4s.
You're the King of Bash, Shit gonna happen ! Keep rockin' Joe.
That sucks, that set up is not cheap but at least we now know it's limits 👍
we know the limit? Don't tell me you wouldn't be curious to see what happens at 14s.
Those 1717 1650’s see to grenade quite often. I think there’s an issue with the Kevlar wrap. Castle replaced mine under warranty…. Only had about 10 1/2 throttle 8s runs on it
This one is over a year old so I guess it was due.
Just discovered this channel😁 all I can say is subbed
You are quite funny. Thanks for the destructive demo.
Ouch. Awesome truck but clearly for the boys with deep pockets... 30mph is pretty epic in something that huge. Color me green
Yeah can’t win them all, but that was super cool appreciate you sharing
not kidding on spending i didn't want to look either but it sure is fun.
I recently put that same system in my scx6 ….bought the combo used with 2 runs on it (it was super clean and looked brand new) I literally ran it 2 more times on 8s and the armature seized and smoked just like yours did …..ripped around in second gear for about 5 minutes each time but mostly did some crawling in 1st gear…..not too impressed. I did like the power tho and might order just a new motor, then just run on 4 or 6s
Castle Cremations 😂
Hottest name in the game 🤣
Seeing this comment I expected to see him let the car burn down! 😂
Glad that didn't happen
LoL heck no!! I was ready to run with that thing to the water hose!!
Omg 😂 8:20 - 8:37 I’m dying ☠️ 😂 that’s exactly how I feel and that look of guilt at the end 🤣🤣🤣
Expensive lessons, thank you for the sacrifice brother, you kept your cool, I would have lost it, seems lately everything is at a higher price point, I know why they say it, just dont fully believe it, companies making up for past lost revenue is what I think is blasting these prices in the stratosphere lol😎
Lol.. MAN!! That thing was on its way to taking flight! 👍
32mph on 6S. Yeah 8s would have been in the 40’s
Holy cow are you keeping the bearings in good shape I'm eager to know oil and every once in awhile maybe
That jeep is amazing
Hey how did you remove the slipper clutch to put the vitavon trans/ motor mount thinks
Always seeing posts at 2am haha
That's unfortunate. I might calculations on 8S the motor should have maxed out at 55,440 RPM. That's close to the 56,000 RPM limit but still below it.
yeah I'm sure it was due and in 1st gear I'm also pretty sure it was like a free rev for it.
Holy smokes. That's crazy
Lol Joe you crazy man! I love it keep it up!!! 😎
What makes the rotor break like that? My stock x-maxx did the same thing after i ran only six packs through it.
The wraps come loose and high rpm and the magnets try to fly out
All bushings no bearings yep been there on a 1:10 slash all stock brushless with 3s ran in high grass 4 3s lipos back to back got crap hot lol but your test was in ideal conditions
You give the people what they want!
LoL I try
My 8s castle system up in smoke, 2nd run.
Looks like 3s is enough for me if I had this rig....🤭😂
Killed two of those motors brand new within minutes on 8s. Gave up after the second one. 1650 doesn't like 8s
Hi , im looking in buying an rc , m'y choice as stoped on two models, i would like toi gave tout advise on m'y choices is IT possible to get in touche privately, thank you
Cooool😎👍 scx6 8s awesome🔥
Got a few arrma 6s motors on the shelf that look exactly like that. Still haven't learned when to stop! And I never plan to either
👂 you said 75hundred??!! I was with you on that expression bud!. 😧
Yeah buddy. I haven’t even looked at my Amazon or EBay yet
Once, I avoided looking then found out my CC account was maxed out!. 😂 😳 cheers
The can on the motor has maximum rpm stamped on it. The rotors do not like breaking the sound barrier.
It was only for half a second. 😂
You must be in Florida with that sunshine
Sooo, $7500 at AMain this year. How much have you made off this TH-cam channel this year. Can you put it in perspective for us?
Thanks for giving her hell in a cool way, not riding it like a powerwheels lol! How come nobody has made a huge crawler out of power wheels yet? Lol 😉
Is the holms hobbies 1/8 puller pro big enough?
well the 1900kv hobbywing is back in it sooo
That right there sir is why hobbywing is a better setup
Very nice bro
man, I was looking forward to seeing it rip on 8s lol. But that was crazy fast on 6s. Wonder how well it will hold up bashing at those speeds.
I’ll go this again but with a 1280kv instead of the 1650kv
I want 1 but im not a big crawler person,i hear crawling with these is way more realistic tho,just wish they werent soo expensive.
yeah they move way more realistic
haha but noooo just keep driving it til you find out what broke haha
I did!!
No mechanical sympathy.. my favorite. That thing would have done probably 50mph on 8s I can imagine
Probably order the 1260kv motor so it’ll last.
@@ExocagedRC - He should have used a much larger pinion and that would have worked, but yeah, 8S is too much for that KV in that vehicle.
Wasn't there a wire unsoldered from the motor??
It can be fixed😂. That's rough bud.
Would've been interesting to see what the motor temps were when that happened.
Enough to smoke. 😂😂
Well. Since one of the wires seems to have desoldered itself. It was about 361°f. A bit toasty.
right, he should definitely repeat that
I mean honestly what did you think was going to happen full Throttle 8s?
Oh Heck that magic smoke come out of both of them 😝
😃👉 Amain, Amazon and eBay are Great places, I also shop Hobbytown and my Affiliate with Redcat Racing. I've not spent the amount that you have but almost 3k this year through all...
✌🤠👍 HFLPRCing 👍😎👍 AOAH 🌟 RCF4L 🙏 Stay Safe and Play Healthy Brother Joe 🤜🇺🇸🤛 BOV4L HOOAH ❣️
Do you get a discount on vitavon ? Or is it just that good where you will spend your own cash on each vehicle? Honest question no disrespect or bitching . I’m looking at buying some .
He is a dealer for vitavon so I'm assuming he gets wholesale pricing
yeah I'm a dealer so that helps a lot, but nothing is ever free or cheap in this or any hobby. I spend a LOT on this hobby, too much.
@@ExocagedRC for sure. I spend a lot in this hobby and I don't think it's a quarter of what you do :-)
We're you able to read the logs?
Good old Castle creations creating flames I don't understand why people like that brand so much they always go to crap
Castle is pretty good for me. Failures happen with all brands. You saw the Hobbywing rotor at the end right?
@@ExocagedRC yes I did see the hobby Wing which is what I tend to use but I've actually never really had a failure with a hobby wing I have burnt up a few castles. But that's just my experience a lot of people like them little castles
It happens sometimes. Bummer tho.
- 1650kv is 6S max unless it’s a speed run with a larger pinion. What you aren’t accounting for is the extreme acceleration in low gear causing too much shear force.
when is the 12s video coming? Hurry up boy, we are all not getting any younger 😁
You get the vitavon axles for scx6
Yeah they are on there.
I hope at least you gain them likes and views out this disaster
would be awesome if this video made enough for the replacement!! LOL
Fun when stuff happens but not on the wallet it gets grumpy lol
I'm waiting to see a 40-50mph setup with one of these, I know someone is gonna do it
Over Current 8S ?
I think it had some deterioration and this 1st gear free rev just caused it to fail
Loooool, the 1717 isn't meant for that much weight. Should've just used a 2028
money well spent to a great hobby
Castle mmx8s only can handle 11kg (24 pounds), stock sx6 without battery weights 24,5 pounds
keep in mind gearing plays a major roll. I could run this truck off a brushed 540 if I geared it low enough
@4:25 their was a tiny bit of smoke you can see it just above where the battery was connected, I can’t wait to try higher voltage on my crawler haha 🍻😄
Like we say in the UK, oopsy daisy 😁
Damn no replacement rotors either.... Dang it
yeah I just ordered the whole combo, will do more checks on the esc
@@ExocagedRC for sure good call. I just hope my xlx2 1100kv combo dies do anything crazy in my k8s exb lol. Great content btw keep it up!!! Cheers!
Try the same test, but with the Hobbywing xerun 4268 1900kv you have. And a Hobbywing xerun XR8 Pro 200a esc.
Wow. It seemed to be pretty good on 4s.
ya i hear ya brotha!!!!!! my wife is on the verge of de-nuttin me after all the money i spend on the hobby lol......".it was an accident " i tell her ,or its a limited addition or "i need It"...etc!! funny how she always calls bullshit on me, hehehe. i got heavy fingers Joe,i'm just lookin at stuff but my hand accidentally falls on the buy button,....stupid hand always gettin me in trouble;)
Oooooo ‘smokin’ (in the voice of the mask)
Shame it took ya esc with it 🥺
the esc still boots up and connects to castle link, I'll mess with it some more
@@ExocagedRC fingers crossed then 🤞
Its Joe vitavon to the rescue
😂😂 if only Vitavon made motors!!
Why is there no 5s and 7s?
not sure, I've used 5s in the past, we just seem to go 123468 here
In a lot of cases where 6 is too much and 4 ain't enough the 5s is often the sweet spot
with that gear reduction it was probably about the same as free reving and over reving it.
Yep
So it over revved because the low gear didn’t put enough load on the rotor to slow it down enough and keep the centrifugal force down to safe levels?
It shouldn't have. By my calculations a fully charged 8S lipo should max out at 55,440 RPM in that 1650 KV motor. It is rated for 56,000 RPM. It's close but it's still below the rating.
yeah, in theory it should not go above the max like Do RC stated but it was pretty much a no load situation where it hit its max rpm and didn't like it very much!
@@ExocagedRC yeah really shouldn't matter but given that it blew up I guess it did matter: (
@@DoRC - 1650kv is 6S max unless it’s a speed run with a larger pinion. What you aren’t accounting for is the extreme acceleration in low gear causing too much centripetal force.
@@kingwillie206 acceleration doesn't cause centripetal force. Rotation does. The rate at which the object gets up to speed does not affect centripetal force.
So who's the next rc company to come out with the 1/6 bronco? Lol you know its about to get real...js future reference
Why is there not a buget rtr 1/10 crawler around 100 bucks? There's a million bashers, SC's, and on road...
$7,500 this year at Amain alone? Oh my!
yeah LOL way too much!!!
Support your local hobby shops
I'm liking 2nd gear on 6s
4:26 a lil puff of smoke from wire in the back . lol