Hi dirty , why wouldn't a pt sign against medical advise form for decision making ? 10:37, wouldn't this potentially relieve the physician of any liability ?
Hey dirty, with the new legal developments in the states about maternal and fetal health, does your answer on informed consent in the case of the mother with eclampsia still hold? How do we go about answering these now?
@@rusky5101 - Oooh I just asked the same question. Maybe NBOME won't ask that kind of question - but so far they seem to want to hit you with everything from the left field - :(
Whoa, i read that questions as the grandmother refusing treatment. Where does she get off? I was assuming the mother would be post ictal, and was shocked at the reveal. Makes sense once you explained it though.
is it important that a doctor verbally explain all the risks/benefits of an upcoming procedure, or is it enough to just get the patient to sign the paper? If a doc writes in his notes that he verbally described the risks/benefits and the patient agreed, when in fact, the doc DID NOT verbally explain the risk/rewards is this consider falsifying a medical record? thanks!
First of all, "Thank you" for these videos. I found these accidently and I am finding these very helpful. Secondly - in the light of the Dobb's decision - will the answer be "C", as all other choices will get mom and the doctor arrested - someone please help clarify, I am super confused. Thank you.
I would imagine that it just has something to do with the standard legal language. Kind of like how there are tons of laws based on what "reasonable" people would do/conclude. So there's not a perfect definition, it's more based on consensus. That's just my take though!
If we look at the terms in literal statistical sense 1) Average = mean ( you count in every other individual in a community, the outliers make a significant impact to the mean) 2) Mode = Majority (most repeating value in a sample size/population, outliers don’t make a big change ), but you don’t want just the majority of the people to be considered in decision making, you want to count in every single outlier ( JUSTICE component of Ethics = equity not equality) . Looking at this way makes some sense as to why they use the word “average”
Why does it appear we’ve abandoned medical “informed consent” in the realm of vaccines? Looks like mandates have legally stripped us of our competency? Thoughts?
@@detailed8962 was pre-med. Instead, i got into the 6k year old system of healing they currently refer to as " "alternative medicine ", private home healthcare for paraplegic persons and hospice for the terminally ill.
Why don’t physicians have a Informed Consent form that both the patient and physician fill in this important information- so that they are both secure in the agreement of treatment, the course of treatment and the options, risk and benefits. Seems to me that would be so easy to do.
Really - so how should we respond to it, in the new changed environment? I thought all choices except C would get the mother and the doctor arrested -very confused (and concerned for the real peeps). Thank you.
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Lmao damn bro gotta keep the medical police and advertisers happy?
@@ChrisLee-xq9le docs sure be shillin' HARD these dayz.
I assume you got a utoob warning because informed consent is taboo this year?
Hi dirty , why wouldn't a pt sign against medical advise form for decision making ? 10:37, wouldn't this potentially relieve the physician of any liability ?
Earlier ethics and communication skills were too difficult for me,thank u so much for these wonderful videos....kudos to ur hardwork...!
Hey dirty, with the new legal developments in the states about maternal and fetal health, does your answer on informed consent in the case of the mother with eclampsia still hold? How do we go about answering these now?
i was wondering the same thing
@@rusky5101 - Oooh I just asked the same question. Maybe NBOME won't ask that kind of question - but so far they seem to want to hit you with everything from the left field - :(
Whoa, i read that questions as the grandmother refusing treatment. Where does she get off? I was assuming the mother would be post ictal, and was shocked at the reveal. Makes sense once you explained it though.
An option for CC in English would be helpful.
is it important that a doctor verbally explain all the risks/benefits of an upcoming procedure, or is it enough to just get the patient to sign the paper? If a doc writes in his notes that he verbally described the risks/benefits and the patient agreed, when in fact, the doc DID NOT verbally explain the risk/rewards is this consider falsifying a medical record? thanks!
Excellent question, I would say indeed falsifying
First of all, "Thank you" for these videos. I found these accidently and I am finding these very helpful. Secondly - in the light of the Dobb's decision - will the answer be "C", as all other choices will get mom and the doctor arrested - someone please help clarify, I am super confused. Thank you.
isn't 'the consequences of not having the antibiotics/ procedure done' part of informed consent too?
What is the difference between the average patient and statistical majority of patients in the first example?
I would imagine that it just has something to do with the standard legal language. Kind of like how there are tons of laws based on what "reasonable" people would do/conclude. So there's not a perfect definition, it's more based on consensus. That's just my take though!
If we look at the terms in literal statistical sense
1) Average = mean ( you count in every other individual in a community, the outliers make a significant impact to the mean)
2) Mode = Majority (most repeating value in a sample size/population, outliers don’t make a big change ), but you don’t want just the majority of the people to be considered in decision making, you want to count in every single outlier ( JUSTICE component of Ethics = equity not equality) . Looking at this way makes some sense as to why they use the word “average”
May I ask why choice B for the last question is wrong?
She's just refusing a treatment. The request for a AMA is necessary if she wanted to be discharged against medical advice.
@@karineskandar oh I see thank you
You use to have a heme synthesis pathway up with ferrets for lead poisoning etc.... what happened to that one? Please post again! please! Dirty4Life
Thank you.🙏🏻
where's the next part of this video?😢
wow that was indeed tricky. I chose D but then turns out it was A. This is very interesting.
Thanks!
Why does it appear we’ve abandoned medical “informed consent” in the realm of vaccines?
Looks like mandates have legally stripped us of our competency? Thoughts?
10:19 I think it won't hold true now 😢
Amazing series. Very very helpful
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Why is it dirty tho
Money &/or greed/ego.
@@elsiepfeiffer1395 omg that's so true I'm slowly realising that doctors are narcissistic money loving monsters.. I'm a medical student
@@detailed8962 was pre-med. Instead, i got into the 6k year old system of healing they currently refer to as " "alternative medicine ", private home healthcare for paraplegic persons and hospice for the terminally ill.
@@elsiepfeiffer1395 good on you
Why don’t physicians have a Informed Consent form that both the patient and physician fill in this important information- so that they are both secure in the agreement of treatment, the course of treatment and the options, risk and benefits. Seems to me that would be so easy to do.
At 10 minutes it was not a tricky question and shouldn’t be a tricky question for any physician
Really - so how should we respond to it, in the new changed environment? I thought all choices except C would get the mother and the doctor arrested -very confused (and concerned for the real peeps). Thank you.