People Have No Idea about Tesla's Full Self-Driving Software
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This video showcases Tesla's FSD Beta v11.4.7.2 software. This video was filmed on October 18th, 2023 using FSD Beta 11.4.7.2 - v2023.27.6.
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As a 37 year old male who is going to be 38 on November 5th disabled/special needs who can't drive this is a amazing video. Such a exciting time to be alive. FSD V12 is going to be level 5.
Yes!
fsd v12 is still extremely far away from level 5. even Elon admits that the current car/hardware will never be level 5
If you go on TH-cam and type Elon Musk's Full Speech at the 2023 World Artificial Intelligence Conference he says in the video fsd v12 is level 4 or 5. In the article Elon Musk Just Said That AI Could Make Tesla "the Most Valuable Company in the World by Far." Here's How He Thinks It Can Happen. In the article he says fsd is baby AGI which in my opinion is level 5 Can you show me your sources where he says that the current car/hardware will never be level 5
@@PSonefan Elon also said we would have robo taxi by 2019 😂
Did you get a new software update yesterday? I haven't got the newest update yet!
I tried the knee against the steering wheel trick but deactivated it unintentionally on a turn so I will never do that again. I just move the volume up and down when the nag comes on now. I can't wait for it to go away. I think it would be safer without that requirement. It can monitor attentiveness with the camera. The nag just draws my attention to the screen and to satisfying it instead of the road. If I actually kept my hands on the wheel all the time as I'm supposed to 1) it would defeat the purpose of a self driving system and 2) it increases the chances of unintentional deactivations, which are much more dangerous than just trusting the system to work properly.
Good points!
I have used FSD every day for the last 2 years. It's great. Don't get me wrong, though - it is FAR from 'perfect'. I know all the spots it usually struggles with, and I am more than confident with the system even with its shortcomings. I've used it all over the USA on my many long-distance (3,000 to 5,000 miles each) road trips. City driving is great. Highway driving has DRASTICALLY improved. But, the biggest struggle FSD has is rural routes. It simply does not do well. In many rural areas.
I'd even wager that the current version has slipped backwards in some instances.
Very eagerly awaiting FSD V12, and HW4 in my soon-to-be-mine CyberTruck (in the first 10k orders)
2021 Model 3 Performance w/HW3
If your willing to share, do you experience phantom braking or phantom slow downs? Is there a resolution … perhaps changing preferences/settings etc?
Lol good Ole cyberdork. Make sure to put a sticker on the back "elon is my daddy"
I’ve been using FSD (v10-11..) daily, for almost 2 years on my M3P too. Hey , how clueless are people when they talk about FSD . It’s either tesla drivers who think their free base autopilot is somehow the same as FSD , or random people who get all their information from TikTok. “FSD is dangerous and morally wrong”. Like shut up loser , have fun in traffic this afternoon 🦧 🤡 😂 . God ppl are so dumb. I bet if you went back to the year 2000 and told people we would have self driving cars they would have been like “no way that’s great ! the future is just like science fiction ” … yet 2024 “meh self driving car is bad i don’t see the point “. Anyways, keep enjoying the robot 🤖 chauffeur .
@@ahmadalanjary2020 BMW has self driving that works the same exact way teslas does. Its actually better because it doesn't randomly jolt u and u never have to touch the wheel every few seconds and look straight head. Like teslas safety features make u do. U seem like a tesla sheep to think other brands don't have self driving. They just don't advertise it because people that buy a BMW want a performance ultimate driving machine.
That's unfortunate as my wife and I were looking to use it for rural areas. Is it an internet thing?
The highlight of my week is using FSD! FSD is something I dreamed about as a kid in the 80's.
Same!
Sad life
@@techgeektesla1854 pathetic
i just subscribed, thanx for the great video, keep u the good work from South Africa.
I agree with merge-I also have to disengage sometimes as it won’t fall Behind and tries to pass on right as merge coming to one lane.
I think zipper merge does what it’s supposed to: go to the end. In LA, we frequently have drivers who preemptively cut over, not realizing that they’re just extending their own drive by doing that. If everyone zippered at the end of the merge, the left-hand lane would have a much smoother experience. The question is: had there been a car perpendicular to you, what would FSD have done? Probably only Tesla can answer.
I am originally from Missouri but have lived in California since 1984. California doesn’t promote zipper merge, I’m not sure why. Missouri’s Department of Transportation (MDOT) actually prescribes zipper merge in construction zones. I’ve seen it during annual visits to family. WHY I ALL states do mandate zipper merge is beyond me. If everyone KNOWS what’s expected during the merge, lot less road rage. Had one elderly lady cuss me out because I didn’t get in line like a lemming.
FSD will slow down to wait for an opening if there's a car directly beside you when you change lanes.
Fun watching a fellow kzoo guy! Great vid!
Nice vidéo. Unfortunately for us in France WE can't use FSD.😭
But people like U show me how good it's becoms with Time.
Keep on informe us and have a great Time on road with Ur Tesla and FSD👍
I love the view that your new camera position is providing, and also the illumination of the pedals is a very nice feature!
After some time now I have to thank you again for these videos and your neutral non-hyping commentary.
Just one question: how much does FSD satisfy you as a user rather than a tech geek? I mean, in the end you are paying Tesla for working for them, for doing some kind of testing work which a normal company would have to pay people in order they would do it!
I really appreciate your voluntary contribution and role as an early adopter and FSD tester, or should I say teacher to FSD!
Thanks for your kind comment!! I'm so glad to hear that you like my new camera setup. To answer your question, if I wasn't filming videos as a tech geek & voluntarily giving my time away (I get pennies on the dollar for the time I put into editing the videos), I would still be satisfied with FSD. Even though it's still a little bit on the "experimental" side, I do find it useful, and I love to show it off to other people. It gets me excited whenever I use it, and if it's a known area and I'm not in a rush (TWO VERY IMPORTANT FACTORS), then I always use it off-camera, for pleasure.
@@techgeektesla1854 Thank you John for your answer! I'm glad that you actually find FSD-Beta useful and not just a "fun toy". Like this you can keep the frustration level reasonably low while waiting until you won't have to be Tesla's driving instructor anymore!
Hi i love the way you record all of this. It's different that anyone else, Usually other channel record their face it's really annoying for me but You did a great job. I start to subscribe your channel from now
According to Tesla you are to keep your hands on the wheel while auto pilot is enabled
What software is needed for this ? And what cpu does yours have and how to check it ? Would be great 👍
Hey if u have the gopro hero 12 you could turn the hdr on so the outside ans inside are correctly exposed
I have a question, when u do auto drive, you have to put the destination in first so that Tesla know where it goes.
Thanks. I got a tesla 3. But no change lane etc. Is this a US thing? I'm in the UK ❤️
The one I test drove had fsd but keep nagging every time I wasn’t on the wheel. How did yours have no nagging notifications?
Great vid, are you using a head strap mount for cam? Definitely a much cleaner looking vid with this perspective. You can lock exposure by using manual settings (I guess you know this😁)
Yes, locking the exposure doesn't improve the outcome too well in my experience. I've tried it and had worse results, but I'm willing to try it again. Have you had good results with that?
@@techgeektesla1854 i do watersports and I do an exposure lock on the sea so the sky doesn't overexpose too much, also using a gradient filter works too.
Try those little all-glass blind spot mirrors. Really helps with seeing those "invisible" cars, especially since the car lacks an integrated monitoring system. Replace the stock adhesive /use some 3M VHB tape so they don't go flying off at highway speed (ask me how I know).
The car has an integrated blind spot monitoring system, it is just displayed on the screen not on the mirrors like most cars. Remember that the car itself has a 360 degree view around it.
The car absolutely sees 360 degrees
Had my first ride in a self drive Tesla today and it's one of the coolest things ever !! 😀👍
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I'm not understanding... are the images for reference fo vs12 residing in the computer in the car? They can't be in the cloud, too slow to respond. But how much storage do you need to put them in the system in the car given there are millions of miles of reference images! ???
I have a suggestion and if you agree maybe you can somehow get it to Tesla. As you note, we can classify situations on a spectrum from hard to relatively easily for FSD to manage. Currently, it seems like the idea is to keep improving FSD to handle all these situations and then somehow prove to regulators that it's safer, significantly safer than humans. But what if the software created a green zone where FSD can easily manage. Tesla could do this in an workable state. Even start with a stretch of Interstate. The software identifies the green zone and you don't have to keep your knee on the wheel or whatever. You need data to show FSD is safer. With that data, you can start building these green areas with greater and greater coverage. You have your foot in the door. I drive b/n Raleigh NC and Arlington on i85 and i95. Nearly all could be green (even though for politics, this would not be a good start). IOW, start taking bites.
Nice video enjoyable!! I did notice you got very little nag interaction from the car. Then I heard you talking about touching it with your knee. Are you letting it drag the wheel some Are you just tapping it? I'm on the latest version and I can't get it to do that well for me with the nag. And I always am very alert and try to use FSD 95 plus percent of the time.. Don't get me wrong it's the best it's ever been I'm getting some great drives like you very enjoyable.. Thanks for another great video!! ✌️
Thanks so much for your comment! I'm using my knee at relatively fixed intervals to proactively avoid the nag. Responding to the nag is one thing. Preventing it is another. A slight touch every 12-14 seconds prevents the nag entirely.
This looks really good
Yes quite impressive for huminitration
Version 12 is going to be a paradigm shift for FSD and after that every Tesla on the road will suddenly become a self aware robot on wheels! Future is not far away!
What makes you think that?
@@chriswright9096 because we know what they have done till now (which is have the hardware ready in every car sold till now) and we know what they have doing (which is work furiously on the software) and the moment they match what have been doing with what they have already done, every car will become an autonomous robocar!!
So have you noticed any improvements with FSD in cities type roads? Because I know that it was struggling a lot in your previous video in that area.
In downtown Chicago? It impresses far more than it disappoints! If I didn't verbally point out the disappointments in those videos, it would be hard to see the mistakes. It's not perfect. But it's still really amazing what it can do today. For driving on city streets in the suburbs? It's incredibly useful! I use it even when I'm not filming and I could never go back to completely manual driving. It's nice to have the option to turn it on whenever I want.
Good vid. WE still have a long way to go folks. I was driving on country roads in snowstorms at 14, and this thing was stopping at a mall stop sign for like 15 seconds with no traffic around. Probably going to be 15-20 years before it is at human level.
15-20 years 😂
@@joshc7865 NPC alert. Never driven in the snow
When will you get v12?
Crazy cool
I have to take over way too often for it to be useful.
How are you getting your pov? How are you also show the speed views? My life has changed since buying a Tesla a couple of months ago as I get panic attacks driving on expressways. Got a FSD subscription and I am back on. I want to document this like you are to educate those who are not aware of the changes we are going through for the better. Thanks for your content that helped me buy my first EV and FSD.
First of all, congratulations! I'm super happy for you and your new purchase! It is certainly a life-changing technology, but it definitely requires some attention to detail - that merge, for example, could have easily pushed my car into another car. You definitely need to be careful. All of my recording equipment is listed in the description of my videos. 🙂I provide insider tips to my Patreon subscribers, including information about extra accessories, photos of my setup, and additional details on how I film. For the camera setup in this video, the GoPro is essentially mounted right in front of my face. 😬This is not only unsafe, but it makes for a very awkward driving experience. I would definitely not recommend filming this way if you're new to FSD Beta, or if you're uncertain about how it will operate on certain roads. But, whatever you do, please share your videos with me! Best of luck in your Tesla & FSD journey. 👋
@@techgeektesla1854 The new meta smart glasses may end up being perfect for this sort of thing!
How can i do this in my 2022 twska model 3?
Kalamazoo!!! I know me some kzoo when I see it.
How douse it cope with pothole’s?
Good job👍💯🇺🇲
Hi JOHN, can we subscribe this option just for one month to test drive this new experience for 200$ and stop after one month?? Thx for your answer
Yes you can subscribe for the month but no guarantees you will get access to FSD beta
How to set it up as hand off wheel all the time? Is it only for 11.4.7? Mine is 11.4.4
I’m using my knee in the video.
I love FSD but too expensive and also it cannot detect speedbump or pothole that would damage the car. I live in snow area.....
How did you turn the driver monitoring off and no nags to tag on the wheel?
My knee, watch my knee.
I don’t get the excitement for fsd? The whole point of self driving it to eliminate human error. Therefore you should be in the back seat.
Hey that's kalamazoo!!!
Just noticed the small steering wheel icon turns in real time according to the actual steering wheel
yeah! 🤩
Scary AF
Wait... I'm watching this video & the voice said "Stadium drive"! Lol! I drive by this shopping plaza every day. I live 5 minutes from here. Small world.
Wow!! That’s awesome.
You really should redact the destination address from your vehicle. Yes, the address could be a few different states, but you already mentions I-131. I went to high school in Grandrapids so it doesn’t take much to know you’re in Kalamazoo area either
Cool that you figured it out! I'm not that paranoid about it, but thank you so much for your concern. 🙏
Seems like a very annoying and dangerous distraction to have to monitor and supervise a task instead of just doing the task.
I have 2019 Tesla model 3 with FSD but I just cannot let go of my controlling of wheel. It's just unnatural to me. Hopefully V12 get me some confidence on FSD. I'd happily use it on high way driving but not on local driving.
Is it true that when you pay the $10k+ fir full self driving you can’t transfer it over to a new tesla? can you sell the tesla with full self driving option for a higher price?
It’s true. The price isn’t much higher with FSD when you sell it, unfortunately. This will change when it gets much better and more people know how good it is.
Great video demonstration
Zipper merge is the correct way to merge.
0:27 where did tesla post this video? Curious to see!
Yes, you can see it here: twitter.com/Tesla/status/1714299552944078934
I think the software is relying too much on the right lane markings. The opposite of what you said about merging is also evident, even in Auto-Steer (not FSD). On a straight road staying in a. single lane (center lane a turn lane), the vehicle always want to move the right if the line marker say starts to move the right for just a cross road. Why? The vehicle is not turning. It assumes it should always be the right lane for some reason. Stay in the lane unless navigating further up. Otherwise, stay in the lane just like a human would do.
NIO has this to and just got their certification from the Chinese gov to start using it in
their cars...
I prefer to be in control
Hi, could you set the side mirror to see the blindspot instead of the same view as your rear view mirror? You’d see a lot more. Don’t need to see the same thing twice and have a huge blind spot.
WIP.. Thanks
You still have to nudge the wheel in “full self driving”?
Yes
And it’s gotten worse since the recall. If you look more than 2 second left or right, nudge.
Do you think FSD has reached the point where it could work in the most 'benign' driving environment in the world - the Las vegas tunnel?
Yes, I think so.
Bro, I hope you don't get folks hurt with this vid. IMO, the tech is not there yet. Too many surprises. It just to complicated without digital tracks.
This is amazing, but on the highway I would've shat myself when doing this for the first time
I've seen multiple videos this week about Tesla FSD. It seems like a common weak point in all the videos is their lane changing
My problem with FSD is that it does not scale well. It is completely useless here in Europe. Everyone who bought it wasted 10K.
Begging your pardon, but FSD has been a thing for, like 6 years or more, and they still call is Beta -- how is that even remotely accurate. Is Windows 11 a Beta version of Windows?
I watched another FSD video a couple weeks ago that was shot in San Francisco, which is right in Tesla's backyard, and within the 15 minute video FSD had to be interrupted by the driver to prevent FSD from hitting parked cars -- it also blew through a stop sign and did so at way more than the typical California rolling stop. In 2018 Musk stated, without and hedging at all, that FSD could take you from CA to NY with the driver never interrupting FSD -- in 2023 that's still not possible. BTW, how much does it cost to add FSD to the car at time of purchase? My understanding is that FSD is about $15K by itself -- so you the owner of the car are giving Tesla $15K, not for FSD, but for the promise of FSD. And, many years later we still do not have true FSD.
Also, while you can pat yourself on the back for making a drive like this I might remind you that Tesla has released video that purports to show fully functional FSD more than 5 years ago. You can cherry pick a route and time of day and doing so might make it look like FSD is where it needs to be, but plenty of other videos show that even places that Tesla should be 100% familiar with and FSD is still trying to hit parked cars and kids riding bikes!
Kalamazoo!
That’s right!
Hope that’s not your home address in the top left corner at the end of the video. Might want to blur that out.
Nice. What year is your Model 3?
2019 LR RWD Model 3, 325 miles
Almost put me through an intersection since it thought the crossing traffic green light was my own.
Where will this be in 1 year? 2 year?
Great question - It will only get better IMO - I can't wait for the day when I don't need to sit in the driver's seat.
@@techgeektesla1854I hope it will get to that point in the next year or two, that’d be amazing, but I’m willing to be more patient
A short drive and a success because it performed this time like a learner driver?
I do wonder if one of the reasons Tesla drivers have the highest accident rate of drivers of all brands of cars is because of this defective FSD availability.
I like the Obama sponsored Netflix movie Leave the world behind. It shows a bunch of Teslas smashing into each other after they lost connectivity! One right after another, 💥 smash smash smash!! I watched it a few times, so much fun!
So Full Selve Driving isn't actually full Self driving....
It’s terrible at stop signs. Horrible at turns on red lights, drives into pullover lane on freeway thinking it’s a lane, says weather issues when glass is clean with no sun or clouds. The worst is if you are going say 70 (65mph limit), the. Part of highway goes to 50 or 54, tesla essentially slams on the breaks to meet new speed limit when every car on road stays at 70, causing honks and near misses.
Is this the self driving software that was just recalled because it’s not self driving software, and not as safe as Tesla would like you to think?
Don't let the main stream media fool you. Automated driving features with Tesla are very safe and often TOO safe. The recall was voluntary. When you update apps on your smartphone, do you consider that a recall? An update was released to include additional warnings and to help monitor drivers' behavior through the in-cabin DMS. The recall helps with 2 things: (1) Prevents misuse from people who abuse the system, and (2) Prevents misuse from people who are unfamiliar with the automated features. Is it a car manufacturer's responsibility to prevent people from driving while drunk? Tesla's automated features are SAE Level 2, which means the driver is in control and 100% fully responsible for driving the vehicle. Should Tesla also include a breathalyzer in their cars?
Tesla as a company.. The whole Tesla brand across many business sectors is very underrated!! Worse.. Unfairly targeted because of Elon personality which has nothing negative to do with the excellent products and innovation it churns. More, if it was not for Elon risk taking and wild plans futuristic vision!! All the tech advancement that we see today would not be possible! Haters will hate.. do your thing.. never stop or wait! Does not matter!
I'm sorry but Tesla is doing it wrong on how they train the autopilot from the beginning. First of all, there is this term called "crowdsourcing". The training data itself needed to be collected by the Tesla drivers from all over the world itself. Every driver reaction to unknown circumstances will be processed and then Autopilot will be trained. Therefore not only you'll be having the most optimum driver software, you'll be having different driver versions for each country very fast. The way they train is old school and that's how aviation software is being trained. That's why there is this saying "Aviation regulations are written in blood." The reason is that somebody needs to die in order for you to update the aviation software. People are having accidents and dying for Tesla to have their autopilot software updated. Do you see where I'm going?
Version 12 has to be very far away, probably at least two years. I have yet to experience a flawless Drive using FSD Beta. Always something wonky or even dangerous.
Think version 12 will come sooner. Limited by compute and they need to retrain. FSD non beta yes maybe 2 years.
I don't think it matters when Version 12 arrives (or 13 or 14 for that matter). Those are all just numbers. The only important question is; when will it work? I mean, when will it work according to Musk's own definition (send it out at night, driverless, to act as a 'robotaxi'). I think this is still a decade or two away and it will likely not be Tesla that first achieves it.
FSD is still awesome and the most self driving vehicle A to B all roads available. I’d rather have a base car with FSD than Performance Car without. I really love my Y Performance FSD (transfer) even compared to S P100D (FSD donor)
People have no ideas the cost for replacing the batteries pack
Same price or less compared to replacing an engine. Batteries don’t need to be replaced until 200,000 miles or more.
Amazing stuff! Think nvidea and others are doing the same, at the same level, it just isn't being broadcasted. Still... Just amazing.
...................................... Did NOT turn on the BLINKER!!!!!
FSD v12 won't be available to the public until at least 2024.
I hate people that try to be nice in traffic and wave you to go into traffic when there are two or more lanes. You just look at them like what are you on bro
Yeah, tell me about it. 😡 The guy who waved me on saw the accident happen and proceeded to drive away like nothing happened.
If you have a wreck, especially with another tesla, are you or anyone at fault?
That's a great question! If two Tesla's using FSD get in a crash, who is at fault?
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You have a great day to, lord Vishnu Bless Everybody. I think really really close now to level 3
We know thats its killed 40 people and that they now recalled it because of safety issues.
What in the Wall-e is going on here.
It's cool that you are paying to test a beta software, can you please not involve people that are not participating?
I give it 5 years tops before humans are no longer driving cars.
Howcome when the video seems so perfect while accident still occur.
Don’t be fooled by this driving condition. The city driving with cars double parked left and right with buses passing by is far from being automated on its own. I won’t ever depend on it in the big city, and this is from my own experience with the current updated version. I’d give 10 blocks or 10 minutes of this autopilot in nyc for an accident to happen when left alone
You have a good point - you won't see this sort of drive in downtown Chicago, either. I think the technology will get there in the future though! It's headed in the right direction.
TechGeek sees his TSLA shares tank today, tries to make uplifting FSD video to see if it helps.
😂🤣
Don't worry, the news of Toyota and Lexus joining the NASC charging network will get that stock right back on track. 👍🧐
@@techgeektesla1854 Teslas automotive sector is reaching the top of the bell curve. Optimus, AI and energy is where they have the most potential. Will take another 5 years to flesh out.
@techgeektesla1854
I think you answered a bot... also one comment thread below (user stanslsv) is also a bot. Saw these identical comments on fullmarscatalogue fsd test channel...
The ai is getting crazy good... 👀
Long term TSLA investors focus on real metrics not Wall Street FUD jitters. Elon and Co. focus on “can do” not “can’t do”.
A fun note about Starbucks in Sweden:
They came here in 2010, thinking they could take over in one of the most coffee drinking countries in the world. Worth noting: Almost no one eat and drink in the car here.
They expanded a lot.
They started closing down.
Now, we have one at the largest airport and three close to each other in the capital center.
I bet they will be out of here within a few years.
Until it has wide release and Tesla accepts liability, FSD is just BETA. It’s a risky gimmick for so many things.
What it does for you is great, but if it’s so great, why isn’t it out?
I use it daily, even when I'm not filming & I get a lot of use out of it. It's not perfect. But it's getting better! Let's see how long it takes to be released without the "Beta" in front of it.
This is the sign of true laziness.
It's a shame that all the work that was done up to version 11 is now being thrown down the drain.
............................... Your car HAS the DOG Filipino yellowish CHEAP looking SEMI wood on the Dash...LQQK's Sooooooo very cheaP!
I just wish they didn't drop the USS sensors just to save themselves $14. I am 100% sure this would be even better if it still had them.
How dull, a car driving for you…
This just as Tesla recalls all vehicles.