No at least Congress paid middle man and got those on time...but I am more concerned why aren't congress raising the same issue in Parliament.@@Love-wz4vg
Year 3000 tak bhi amca aa gaya to badi baat hogi. India ko fighter jet procure karna chahiye, amca/tejas ke bharose rahne ka koi fayda nahi. 1986 se funding mil rahi hai HAL ko tejas keliye.
When Nigeria will develop their 10th generation fighter plan.. then also Indian think tank would be discussing about roadmap to AMCA.. HUMCA…TUMCA…ZUMCA.
@@rajalapli3637 Pakistan kabhi hara nahi sakta. Pakistan is not India’s problem. aukaat nahi hai Pakistan ki. Real problem is China. Is India ready to protect its territory.
Koreans and Turks have shown what proficiency is. The way they are working shows better planning and execution of projects. Where as in India it is all about bombastic claims and then just shifting the goal post.
पुष्पक विमान श्रीलंका से क्यो लेना है।हमारे ग्रंथो में सब विधि लिखी है विमान बनाने की ।😂😂 isro chief की हेल्प से drdo बना लेगा पुष्पक विमान फिर देखना चीन अमेरिका कैसे थर थर कांपते है विश्व गुरु से 😂😂
@@User91272Bhai ye alag level ke lullhipo hn Bahar ki ideology theory padhenge to omg black myth monkey kratos Zeus Falana dhamkana Magr apne ka mazak udate hn
@StreeDogMax01 As a Pakistani ise baton par mere khyal main koye be sochana Nahin hona chaye, Kyonke jab ik country nuclear power ban he jata hain to oske dushman 100 bar sochane pe majbor ho jata hain k attack karna k Nahin, or simple se bat hain k India ik ise military rakte hain Jo world k top 10 main ate hain, na weapon k kami na personal k kame na fighter jet's k kami na tank,s k kami na pise na resurf k kami hain, to Kyo fiqar karne hain, ap Afghanistan k Taliban ko deke Jo na air defense system rakta na air force na navy na proper military personal na proper government, na pisa likin fiqar wo kese k be Nahin karte or jab fighte karte hain to samne se he karte hain.
Baat to sahi hai 😂 Jab sirf Gandhiwadi kamm hi karna hai to weapons k liye Haye tauba kyo Macha rakha hai ? Nepal, Maldives, Kangladesh sab ek ek kar k ya to China ya USA ki godi me baith ja rahe hai, aur self proclaimed 56 inch Narendra Gandhi instead of crushing these countries like Russia, is going and giving 56 meter gyan of peace to Sigma Putin If Tomorrow we get attacked and have to struggle to fight a defensive war then Russia will return the gyan of peace to us instead of giving help 😂
@@Jai_Shree_Ram_108-s9s true ,pr Bhai capability gap nhi hona chhiye Iaf ki capability paf se lag kr rhi hai Naa hi long range air to air missile Naa hi 4.5++ genration aircraft iaf induct kr rha hai
Early delivery of AMCA is not desirable. We have scheduled them for 2150 which is 200th year of Shri Modiji's birth anniversary. Till then Rafale and Rafale M loot should continue. Two things should be kept in mind , high ticket programs are not suitable for make in India as they lack provision of 30 percent advance payment in foreign currency and consequently payment of bribes in Swiss banks. We should consider make in India programs only for items like shoes, caps , bullet proof jackets etc.
AMCA and Tejas 2 timelines are known for sometime. They are the strategic investments keeping in view of the long term needs. No point in winging about them. On the tactical and more so current demand, identify any low hanging fruits. In my opinion IAF can look at adding additional squadrons of Su 30 MKI, Fast track the Super Sukhoi upgrade, procure 2nd hand Mirages/ those 21 odd Mig 29 airframes and upgrade them to UPG level. Also add couple of more S400 squadrons and increase the number of SAMs and augment the deterrence mechanism. No point questioning AMCA timelines or Tejas 2 timelines. Increase investment in Kaveri engine and make it a national priority project. I doubt if there will be large scale and all out war in near future which will be suicidal for aggressive party. So I see the enemies so called 5th gen fighters as display pieces only which covers only their small dog syndrome.
Past trends point out that IAF will keep on relying on imported platforms as frontline fighters for the foreseeable future. Local platforms will not be able to replace foreign platforms by 25%. F-35 seems the only viable option at this stage but the US will charge full price and strategic benefits out of this deal. US relationships with any state are purely transactional and let's see what the US will ask India in return in addition to high price and total control of technology, weapons, parts, etc.
They cant even put 10 videos without amca....pura channel amca n tejas ke naam par chala rahe😂😂 Twitter par yeh aaya, n ol that wtf man yej news hai li bas channel chalani ki koshish kar rahe
Bhai sahab bilkul sahi bol rahe ho yaar Aaj mere Dil Ko Khush kar Diya man ki baat chhin liya India kisi se Tamasha nahin khata hai tab tak sikhata nahin hai use chij ka Dhyan nahin deta hai
HAL doesn't have the expertise to make 5 gen aircraft. They should collaborate with Established companies like Boeing, Rafael, Lockheed, Airbus That's what Korea has done and brought Their 5th gen aircraft into production.
Completely hapless about AMCA ...at a time when I thought india will going to be 4th nation after usa china and Russia to make their 5th gen aircraft but look south korea and turkey actually made their product and are flying it ... We are loud mouth ass !!
Very true. Hope HAL and IAF r listening...having unrealistic expectations right at the time of induction and constantly changing/adding specs as was done for MK1A will only delay the process. As recently reported the Tejas MK1 platform is a capable one and MK1A will only add towards improving the capability. So IAF shud work with HAL to gradually increase the potency afyer first filling in the numbers with an acceptable platform inducted to begin with. So also for the MK2. Resolve the engine issue with the RD 33MKs while waiting for the Kaveri. Use the indiginised AL31fp engines for the TEDBF and AMCA. In short plllllls get on with it.
In 2020 I had commented that 2035 is when AMCA would fly. Got a lot of flacks for that comment. Now it's almost 2025 and we're slowly moving towards the same situation.
Looks like IAF wants to remain in discussion and evaluation.. doesn't want to get prepared for conflict...looks like we may face a situation where PAF will gain an edge...
We should go for : 1.Rafael with indian production line 2. Fast forward Kaveri engine & it's other verients with colab with foreign experts. 2. Think for supersonic Bombers more then 10-12 in number. Which can give enough offensive bite in Sea & Surface .
Russia has opened a new plant and hanger for the production and testing of the Su57 so we don't think it will take time for russia to deliver them to us they just need money to keep things going.
भाई तुमने बिलकुल सही कहा , भारत को वर्तमान में 500 से अधिक युद्धक विमान तत्काल चाहिए , 2035-2040 तक इन आवश्यक विमानों की संख्या दोगुनी अथवा उससे भी अधिक होगी....
Napunsanta ki bhi hadd hoti hai 10 saal se sarkar chala rahe hai desh ko ek jet engine test k liye facility nahi de paye aur america per bharosa karke bewkoofi kardi
Chill bro ,only air force dosent decide everything in a war with limited budget we have to see everything, nobody is offering us su57 and F35 plus neither china or Pakistan is in a position to atack us we have enough arsenal to defend and attack at the same time last but not the least we are a Nuclear country we can target Beijing and Islamabad simultaneously so plzz just chill .
Ab agar koi timeline par majak banata hai to koi gyan na de ki defence production me time lagta hai etc....IAF se lekar Hal aur ADA tak infact real culprit Govt hai...Agar Govt ki different bodies late hai to dosh govt ka hi hai...
Good insight and better than Alfa Defence channel because you maintain decency and not take things to your ego and pass sarcasm on people asking questions or have different opinions.
It is very interesting to see how the narrative has changed after Modi Sarkar losing its absolute majority!! Suddenly voices are being again heard on why import of military hardware is now imperative 😉
govt is sleeping on defense as usual....IAF chief himself said lately , " atma nirbharta cannot be at the expense of national security".... seeing past record we will be lucky to see amca prototype by 2050.... u have to be ashamed when a bankrupt nation like pakistan with defense budget 1/10th of ours will have an edge
According to me we should buy at least 8 squadrons of fifth generation fighter aircraft (F-35, SU-57 or SU-75) from the US or Russia in MRFA and rename AMCA to Six Gen aircraft, for this we should join France or the British Six Gen programs. IAF should focus on ORCA, Tejas Mark 2 and Tejas Mark 1A, with these programs they should fill the depleting squadrons. Love ❤ for India and Indian Armed Forces.
Era of manned fighters is coming to an end. Unmanned UCAVs can not only perform the same job more efficiently, but also bring down the cost of owning, operating and maintaining such systems. Not only future, but even the present belongs to AI and automation. PS: Advanced versions of systems like Patriot and S500, makes air space literally impregnable for any kind of fighter. Even conventional fighters cost a ton to operate and maintain. 5th generation fighters are simply unaffordable for countries like Pakistan unless they are not only being gifted for free but are also being maintained by some friendly country.
The retoric of Indians that "we do not need to compete with Pakistan" now is reversed as it is india that is trying to compete with Pakistan to maintain it's edge.While India's squadron numbers are declining like stock shares in a stock market crash.
India is compelled by the circumstances to purchase Swedish saab 39 as stop gap arrangement due to its forgen policy. India yet to decide Russian camp or western camp. India is floating in the middle. The policy is successful in short term but in long run it is impossible. India will have to decide eighter to be a part of bricks or part of American camp. You can't sail In two vessels at a time.
2050 is more realistic- based on current progress of Tejas. Expect that IAF will get a 5th gen fighter when rest of the world will be headed towards 8th gen
Main point which give headache to iaf and all indian jets program for time line delaying was "ENGINE" , National projects issue karo engine ko All IIT , IIM, jitni bhi premium institute usko engage karo
itna asan nhi hai bro jet engine banana , jaab drdo khud nhi bana paa rhe tho iit kha sei banna denge ,, itna simple hota jet engine develop karna tho har country kei pass apna jet engine hota , even china copies american jet engines still cannot replicate 100%
Ladai shuru hone bad takatwar Bano Isse to better h ki Ladai hone ki situations create hone se pehle hi takatwar Bano Taki koi ladai shuru karne ki himmat hi na kar sake 😊
AMCA i think is not going to join before 2038 or so, we are just too slow and sometimes i do believe india is waiting for su 75 to be flown by Russia and then to get it off the shelf or with TOT. There needs to be a strong push from national security point of view
The question here is, Russia ने इसको ukrain war में क्यों इस्तेमाल नहीं किया? बैठे रहो, सोचते रहो और last में जैसे तैसे औने पौने दाम में खरीद लो। एक dozen supplier, दो dozen अलग किस्म का विमान। Strategic edge कभी नहीं प्राप्त कर सकते इस तरह। अफसोस!
IMO Indian government knows weaknesses and limitations of HAL and that is why they are reluctant to give max resources fearing that not only colossal amount of money will be lost but also the precious time. OR corruption of top brass or highest figures in government echelons want to go for panic buying later on and mint hell lot of money as a commission. Moreover, procuring such weapon system from a foreign country wont allow Indian government to run its foreign policy independently; which so far is the hallmark of India. Collaboration seems a best way to move forward.
It will be good if India place a trial order for Su 75 order and it will be good if the bird is made in India. We need at least 55 squadron strength to have an aggressive posture.
Import karna hi padega India k private company or government company kisika aukat nehi ha asa fighter jets bananeka Indian engineering itnivi accha nehi hai sad but true
Would you please point out the fields of foreign collaboration?As far as I can understand indigenous radar,irst,maws, lws,rws,mission computer,ram coating have already been developed which is not the case for Korea. Of course those need to be optimized.I think if the budget is increased and it is taken as mission mode national project then within 4-5 years all issues may be solved. Engine, DAS like systems are yet to be developed. And it is sad that govt. is not taking any serious call on this. At least they can increase budget on indigenous projects and testing facilities.
Atleast it's 2035. By looking at the level of intelligence the politicians and bureaucrats have in our country, 3035 looks more correct. By the time India gets 5th gen fighters, westerners and China will have 10th gen with them.
5th gen Foreign Country se buy bhi karenga tab bhi 2/3 saal specifications and other things discussion mein lag jayega, 4/5 saal jets ko delivery mein, which is almost same timeline for AMCA , Itna major timeline mein farq nahi hoga So AMCA par e govt. ko focus karna chaiye
हमें टेमपेस्ट 6 gen फाइटर jet में शामिल होना चाहिए... जिससे हम अगले दशक में पाक से आगे हो सकते हैं.... साथ ही साथ amca और tedbf तेजस mak-2 भी तब तक तैयार हो जायेंगे........
Good, but haven't we see even we can't deliver mk1a due to lack of engine... If we procure more components from outside then anybody can hijack our amca program.. what is the solution for that..
I have gone through the comments, I am from Pakistan, India defense industrial base is very weak. Indian defense organizations are over estimating their technical capabilities and trying to make everything locally. 5th generation fighter jets technologies are more specialized. In my opinion with out Joint ventures it is not possible for India to meet 2035 deadlines for AMCA.
Bharat n Modi govt must initiate multi prong strategy to procure 5th gen fighters from where it can get. China n pak won't wait for India to induct it's 5th gen fighters.
AMCA is nothing but content for youtubers.
I can sense your blood group is B(-)
i am pretty sure that i will see amca in my grave EDIT- I AM NOT A CONVERT
And that will be soon coz China and Pakistan are having stealth jets, so they'll send all of us indians to grave.
@@Godofwar-fw1lu hahahahaha
with our attitude, even 2035 timeline seems way way too optimistic tbh
Modi government is becoming failure but congress gov will be more worse 😢😢
@@Love-wz4vg money is everything so any gov will fail
No at least Congress paid middle man and got those on time...but I am more concerned why aren't congress raising the same issue in Parliament.@@Love-wz4vg
@@kushagravlogs5627 not at all this govt entered Private sector... Look at growth in drone sector.
Year 3000 tak bhi amca aa gaya to badi baat hogi. India ko fighter jet procure karna chahiye, amca/tejas ke bharose rahne ka koi fayda nahi. 1986 se funding mil rahi hai HAL ko tejas keliye.
When Nigeria will develop their 10th generation fighter plan.. then also Indian think tank would be discussing about roadmap to AMCA.. HUMCA…TUMCA…ZUMCA.
In defence bechar dia ha pak na tum ko .compare with pak you Are alien .
@@rajalapli3637 Pakistan kabhi hara nahi sakta. Pakistan is not India’s problem. aukaat nahi hai Pakistan ki. Real problem is China.
Is India ready to protect its territory.
@@Godofwar-fw1lu chamcha spotted .Aree brainwashed kid dimag kaha hai tumhara 😂😢
@@Godofwar-fw1lu ha bhai tumhari congress ne toh America bana rakha tha desh , Tejas nhi bana paye 15 saal tak
Thumka
Once a wise man said india is a confused country 😅😅
Who ? 😅
Who ? 😅
Who? 😅
Abhi Vaad channel me hi to kisi guest ne bola tha 😂
Lee Kuan Yew
Iaf and all governments of india are sleeping beauty.
PAF is 100 years ahead than iaf .
@@Butergostop watching godi media please
@@Risingphoenixfirestop being delusional pakistan ki puri economy debt me hai pahle apna karja to chuka le fir aayenge compare karne
mujhe ek baat samjh nehi aa raha isro se madat kyu nehi leta separate team banake
Koreans and Turks have shown what proficiency is. The way they are working shows better planning and execution of projects. Where as in India it is all about bombastic claims and then just shifting the goal post.
But BAE and Lockheed any day can stop those programs... This risk factor will always be hanging on there head.
Global hunger index .plus defence bechar dia ha pak na tum ko .
@@tathagatabasu7926both those companies want to make profits.
Now iaf purchase pushpak vimana from srilanka 😂
पुष्पक विमान श्रीलंका से क्यो लेना है।हमारे ग्रंथो में सब विधि लिखी है विमान बनाने की ।😂😂
isro chief की हेल्प से drdo बना लेगा पुष्पक विमान फिर देखना चीन अमेरिका कैसे थर थर कांपते है विश्व गुरु से 😂😂
@@neeleshsharma9893aa gaya pappubhakt yaha bhi
Nahi Bhai Iaf will use ISRO rockets 🗿
@@User91272Bhai ye alag level ke lullhipo hn
Bahar ki ideology theory padhenge to omg black myth monkey kratos Zeus Falana dhamkana
Magr apne ka mazak udate hn
Rote bhi tum he log ho jab govt tax badhati hai
2035 mein China aur Pakistan 6th generation fighter plane use kar rahe honge 😏 ham 2050 mein bhi bus wait hi kar rahe honge 😤
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@murtazaali4882
@StreeDogMax01
As a Pakistani ise baton par mere khyal main koye be sochana Nahin hona chaye, Kyonke jab ik country nuclear power ban he jata hain to oske dushman 100 bar sochane pe majbor ho jata hain k attack karna k Nahin, or simple se bat hain k India ik ise military rakte hain Jo world k top 10 main ate hain, na weapon k kami na personal k kame na fighter jet's k kami na tank,s k kami na pise na resurf k kami hain, to Kyo fiqar karne hain, ap Afghanistan k Taliban ko deke Jo na air defense system rakta na air force na navy na proper military personal na proper government, na pisa likin fiqar wo kese k be Nahin karte or jab fighte karte hain to samne se he karte hain.
2035 itnaa jaldi..... thoda jyaada der mein aati tho aur a6a hota ....
haha i can't believe ill get married and have kids before i see amca and i am only 22
Dont worry 2040 tak nahi hoga.
3520 me 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
PAF is no one in south Asia .no compare with any one .
Why we need battle tested weapon. If we have to do only kadi ninda only.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Baat to sahi hai 😂
Jab sirf Gandhiwadi kamm hi karna hai to weapons k liye Haye tauba kyo Macha rakha hai ?
Nepal, Maldives, Kangladesh sab ek ek kar k ya to China ya USA ki godi me baith ja rahe hai, aur self proclaimed 56 inch Narendra Gandhi instead of crushing these countries like Russia, is going and giving 56 meter gyan of peace to Sigma Putin
If Tomorrow we get attacked and have to struggle to fight a defensive war then Russia will return the gyan of peace to us instead of giving help 😂
Kadi ninda 🐢 turtle
🤪🤪🤪🤪 aukat bata di
@@bineetgupta"instead of crushing these countries"
Kon sa Sutta foonk rha he
humlog optimist bhi nai hai..humlog pata nai kya hai. Ego and appeasement and lack of accountability are the main reasons. we r in mess now.
Import lobby always wins in the end
Now rethink on this topic with the original MMRCA and FGFA plans we made. And never executed. Things would have been different now.
We have so messed up that soon we will be importing from Pakistan 😂😂
Pakistan is also importing...
Please make a detailed video on russian electronic warfare star system karakusa 4 that has become nightmare for both Nato and ukraine
India ko jab Pakistan 27feb 2019 jaisa bjaaa kr chlaa jayega tab India jagegaa
Tab sabhi induction start hojayege 😂😂😂😂
Bhai wo pure debt me hai aur agar import he karna hota to hum bhi Russia se import kar lete lekin apna khudka banana hai
@@Jai_Shree_Ram_108-s9s true ,pr Bhai capability gap nhi hona chhiye
Iaf ki capability paf se lag kr rhi hai
Naa hi long range air to air missile
Naa hi 4.5++ genration aircraft iaf induct kr rha hai
Khof Dekho dar he gaye hain ke Pakistan j 31 ley raha Hai tumhre pas Raffle tou Hai 😂😂
Early delivery of AMCA is not desirable. We have scheduled them for 2150 which is 200th year of Shri Modiji's birth anniversary. Till then Rafale and Rafale M loot should continue.
Two things should be kept in mind , high ticket programs are not suitable for make in India as they lack provision of 30 percent advance payment in foreign currency and consequently payment of bribes in Swiss banks. We should consider make in India programs only for items like shoes, caps , bullet proof jackets etc.
Ha jese tumhari congress ne toh bahut achha kaam karke rakha tha , bc 15 saal tak funding rok ke rakhi thi tejas ki
AMCA and Tejas 2 timelines are known for sometime. They are the strategic investments keeping in view of the long term needs. No point in winging about them. On the tactical and more so current demand, identify any low hanging fruits.
In my opinion IAF can look at adding additional squadrons of Su 30 MKI, Fast track the Super Sukhoi upgrade, procure 2nd hand Mirages/ those 21 odd Mig 29 airframes and upgrade them to UPG level.
Also add couple of more S400 squadrons and increase the number of SAMs and augment the deterrence mechanism. No point questioning AMCA timelines or Tejas 2 timelines. Increase investment in Kaveri engine and make it a national priority project.
I doubt if there will be large scale and all out war in near future which will be suicidal for aggressive party. So I see the enemies so called 5th gen fighters as display pieces only which covers only their small dog syndrome.
Airforce is like - Apun ko kisiki jhamelame ichh nehi padneka , salary leneka bindas rehneka kya.
🙏🇮🇳 जय हिंद 🇮🇳
भाई आपने बिल्कुल ठीक कहा
It's a bitter truth that the IAF lacks in the vision, always been a state of out dated arms compared to our NAVY and ARMY.
Past trends point out that IAF will keep on relying on imported platforms as frontline fighters for the foreseeable future. Local platforms will not be able to replace foreign platforms by 25%. F-35 seems the only viable option at this stage but the US will charge full price and strategic benefits out of this deal. US relationships with any state are purely transactional and let's see what the US will ask India in return in addition to high price and total control of technology, weapons, parts, etc.
They cant even put 10 videos without amca....pura channel amca n tejas ke naam par chala rahe😂😂
Twitter par yeh aaya, n ol that wtf man yej news hai li bas channel chalani ki koshish kar rahe
Bhai sahab bilkul sahi bol rahe ho yaar Aaj mere Dil Ko Khush kar Diya man ki baat chhin liya India kisi se Tamasha nahin khata hai tab tak sikhata nahin hai use chij ka Dhyan nahin deta hai
HAL doesn't have the expertise to make 5 gen aircraft. They should collaborate with Established companies like Boeing, Rafael, Lockheed, Airbus That's what Korea has done and brought Their 5th gen aircraft into production.
Completely hapless about AMCA ...at a time when I thought india will going to be 4th nation after usa china and Russia to make their 5th gen aircraft but look south korea and turkey actually made their product and are flying it ... We are loud mouth ass !!
Very true. Hope HAL and IAF r listening...having unrealistic expectations right at the time of induction and constantly changing/adding specs as was done for MK1A will only delay the process.
As recently reported the Tejas MK1 platform is a capable one and MK1A will only add towards improving the capability. So IAF shud work with HAL to gradually increase the potency afyer first filling in the numbers with an acceptable platform inducted to begin with.
So also for the MK2. Resolve the engine issue with the RD 33MKs while waiting for the Kaveri.
Use the indiginised AL31fp engines for the TEDBF and AMCA.
In short plllllls get on with it.
Now, can say D. matrix is back..👍
Absolutely Right... Best Video...
We have currept system
Currept leaders
We are lazy
Always do something after opponents
Every department is highly currepted
Soch raha hu defence news dekhna hi band kru depression hone lga 2035 mai dekh lunga tab tak mai rha to
In 2020 I had commented that 2035 is when AMCA would fly. Got a lot of flacks for that comment.
Now it's almost 2025 and we're slowly moving towards the same situation.
2035 takk Tejas Mk2 induct ho jaye wahi badi baat hai.. par current situation of IAF :( PAF ne J-31 Inducted.. upar sae PLAAF very large :(
MKI ki production nahi ho pa Rahi hei , MK2 ka jawab dek reha ho, or AMCA ka baat bhi karna paap hein
That’s pretty good analysis 🎉
Iss tarah se chalta raha to 2050 takbhi nahi ho payega 😢
We are begging for aircrafts, but everyone buying the time. This way forces never work.
Looks like IAF wants to remain in discussion and evaluation.. doesn't want to get prepared for conflict...looks like we may face a situation where PAF will gain an edge...
Money isn't the issue, will power is.
We should go for :
1.Rafael with indian production line
2. Fast forward Kaveri engine & it's other verients with colab with foreign experts.
2. Think for supersonic Bombers more then 10-12 in number. Which can give enough offensive bite in Sea & Surface .
haha yea. also develop a space plane to take over the world with indian scam call centers money.
What about GOING FOR F21 IN MRFA
Maybe Saab will be a good choice for mrfa, getting help in production for lca tejas mk 2, and amca and local production of gripen for fast delivery
Russia has opened a new plant and hanger for the production and testing of the Su57 so we don't think it will take time for russia to deliver them to us they just need money to keep things going.
भाई तुमने बिलकुल सही कहा , भारत को वर्तमान में 500 से अधिक युद्धक विमान तत्काल चाहिए , 2035-2040 तक इन आवश्यक विमानों की संख्या दोगुनी अथवा उससे भी अधिक होगी....
Until and unless there's no next war like Kargil where India will be caught off-guard in battle
No progress is to be made
2040 pakad lo 2035 bus kahane ki baat hai
Napunsanta ki bhi hadd hoti hai 10 saal se sarkar chala rahe hai desh ko ek jet engine test k liye facility nahi de paye aur america per bharosa karke bewkoofi kardi
Since amca is delayed, so we have to procure Rafael fighter.
Official Timeline of AMCA leaked.
2030: 1st Prototype roll out.
2035: Testing completed.
2038: IAF requirements not matched.
2040: IAF want 6 Gen Jet.
2042: AMCA project failed ❌
2045: project stopped ❎
IAF is visionless.
Bhaiya RD 33 Engin jo ki india me manufacture hoga us per video bana dijiye. ❤❤
Chill bro ,only air force dosent decide everything in a war with limited budget we have to see everything, nobody is offering us su57 and F35 plus neither china or Pakistan is in a position to atack us we have enough arsenal to defend and attack at the same time last but not the least we are a Nuclear country we can target Beijing and Islamabad simultaneously so plzz just chill .
Ab agar koi timeline par majak banata hai to koi gyan na de ki defence production me time lagta hai etc....IAF se lekar Hal aur ADA tak infact real culprit Govt hai...Agar Govt ki different bodies late hai to dosh govt ka hi hai...
You are right bro
Good insight and better than Alfa Defence channel because you maintain decency and not take things to your ego and pass sarcasm on people asking questions or have different opinions.
It is very interesting to see how the narrative has changed after Modi Sarkar losing its absolute majority!!
Suddenly voices are being again heard on why import of military hardware is now imperative 😉
govt is sleeping on defense as usual....IAF chief himself said lately , " atma nirbharta cannot be at the expense of national security".... seeing past record we will be lucky to see amca prototype by 2050.... u have to be ashamed when a bankrupt nation like pakistan with defense budget 1/10th of ours will have an edge
According to me we should buy at least 8 squadrons of fifth generation fighter aircraft (F-35, SU-57 or SU-75) from the US or Russia in MRFA and rename AMCA to Six Gen aircraft, for this we should join France or the British Six Gen programs. IAF should focus on ORCA, Tejas Mark 2 and Tejas Mark 1A, with these programs they should fill the depleting squadrons.
Love ❤ for India and Indian Armed Forces.
Era of manned fighters is coming to an end.
Unmanned UCAVs can not only perform the same job more efficiently, but also bring down the cost of owning, operating and maintaining such systems.
Not only future, but even the present belongs to AI and automation.
PS: Advanced versions of systems like Patriot and S500, makes air space literally impregnable for any kind of fighter.
Even conventional fighters cost a ton to operate and maintain. 5th generation fighters are simply unaffordable for countries like Pakistan unless they are not only being gifted for free but are also being maintained by some friendly country.
The retoric of Indians that "we do not need to compete with Pakistan" now is reversed as it is india that is trying to compete with Pakistan to maintain it's edge.While India's squadron numbers are declining like stock shares in a stock market crash.
Nice analysis
अब हमे पता चल रहा है की रूसी PAK FA प्रकल्प से बाहर होना मूर्खता थी.
HAL is giving a golden opportunity to the PAF .... to fail and defeat IAF. ...HAL's consistent failure will cost the nation heavily.
Blame modi not hal , just like u blame nehru for 1971
India is compelled by the circumstances to purchase Swedish saab 39 as stop gap arrangement due to its forgen policy. India yet to decide Russian camp or western camp. India is floating in the middle. The policy is successful in short term but in long run it is impossible. India will have to decide eighter to be a part of bricks or part of American camp. You can't sail In two vessels at a time.
2050 is more realistic- based on current progress of Tejas. Expect that IAF will get a 5th gen fighter when rest of the world will be headed towards 8th gen
BTW American GE Gone in Sleep Mode. After Giving Sweeen & South Korea With GE-F414 Local Manufacturing Factory but Not Giving in India.🤦🤦
Rumor is that DRDO is nothing but a CGI company that makes great 3D AMCA renders. They should rename DRDO as Dreadful Delayed Organization
Main point which give headache to iaf and all indian jets program for time line delaying was "ENGINE" , National projects issue karo engine ko All IIT , IIM, jitni bhi premium institute usko engage karo
itna asan nhi hai bro jet engine banana , jaab drdo khud nhi bana paa rhe tho iit kha sei banna denge ,, itna simple hota jet engine develop karna tho har country kei pass apna jet engine hota , even china copies american jet engines still cannot replicate 100%
@@arungulia9231 Maine islie kaha ki IIT or Saari premium institute ko drdo ,HAL, GTRE ,NAL inked sath engage karo or milke banoa
Ladai shuru hone bad takatwar Bano
Isse to better h ki
Ladai hone ki situations create hone se pehle hi takatwar Bano
Taki koi ladai shuru karne ki himmat hi na kar sake 😊
AMCA i think is not going to join before 2038 or so, we are just too slow and sometimes i do believe india is waiting for su 75 to be flown by Russia and then to get it off the shelf or with TOT. There needs to be a strong push from national security point of view
Send this video to deference ministry ASAP
The question here is, Russia ने इसको ukrain war में क्यों इस्तेमाल नहीं किया?
बैठे रहो, सोचते रहो और last में जैसे तैसे औने पौने दाम में खरीद लो। एक dozen supplier, दो dozen अलग किस्म का विमान। Strategic edge कभी नहीं प्राप्त कर सकते इस तरह। अफसोस!
IMO Indian government knows weaknesses and limitations of HAL and that is why they are reluctant to give max resources fearing that not only colossal amount of money will be lost but also the precious time. OR corruption of top brass or highest figures in government echelons want to go for panic buying later on and mint hell lot of money as a commission. Moreover, procuring such weapon system from a foreign country wont allow Indian government to run its foreign policy independently; which so far is the hallmark of India. Collaboration seems a best way to move forward.
I have stopped watching videos on the TEJAS program and preparedness of IAF and its squadron strength.
Me too.. Deeply concerned
I think 2035 timeline for AmCa will only harm indian enemies 😂
It will be good if India place a trial order for Su 75 order and it will be good if the bird is made in India. We need at least 55 squadron strength to have an aggressive posture.
America ny abhi thora sa pakra h neutral country ko phat gai h😂 #world class engine from America
Samosa mark 2 bhi 2040 tak nahi aane vala
Wow Tejas mk2 in 2032 AMCA in 2038 AMCA mk2 in 2045 😂😂
Import karna hi padega India k private company or government company kisika aukat nehi ha asa fighter jets bananeka Indian engineering itnivi accha nehi hai sad but true
Would you please point out the fields of foreign collaboration?As far as I can understand indigenous radar,irst,maws, lws,rws,mission computer,ram coating have already been developed which is not the case for Korea. Of course those need to be optimized.I think if the budget is increased and it is taken as mission mode national project then within 4-5 years all issues may be solved. Engine, DAS like systems are yet to be developed. And it is sad that govt. is not taking any serious call on this. At least they can increase budget on indigenous projects and testing facilities.
Atleast it's 2035. By looking at the level of intelligence the politicians and bureaucrats have in our country, 3035 looks more correct. By the time India gets 5th gen fighters, westerners and China will have 10th gen with them.
2035 thak service me aur 2040 thak time lagega unko proper production karne me 😅
F-35 rent pe le lena chahiye 15 saalo ke liye just like russia se submarine lete hai
5th gen Foreign Country se buy bhi karenga tab bhi 2/3 saal specifications and other things discussion mein lag jayega, 4/5 saal jets ko delivery mein, which is almost same timeline for AMCA , Itna major timeline mein farq nahi hoga So AMCA par e govt. ko focus karna chaiye
हम देख रहे हैं और देखते ही रहेंगे करेंगे कुछ नहीं । राजनीती हावी है
It may be ready by 2055, sometimes I think , We are living in fantasy world, come back to real World my dear India
Regarding the F35s india has looked at it and it is very expensive just to get 36 you are looking at $20 billion dollars.
Don't obsess over stealth very much focus on Tejas and Kaveri. If we need then buy 2 squadrons of Su-57.
Congretchulation
हमें टेमपेस्ट 6 gen फाइटर jet में शामिल होना चाहिए... जिससे हम अगले दशक में पाक से आगे हो सकते हैं.... साथ ही साथ amca और tedbf तेजस mak-2 भी तब तक तैयार हो जायेंगे........
Good, but haven't we see even we can't deliver mk1a due to lack of engine... If we procure more components from outside then anybody can hijack our amca program.. what is the solution for that..
Nation hi secure na hokar enemies ke under ja skta hai
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Paise ka kya aachar daloge 😅
F-35 is necessity now. Otherwise we will not have advantage on enemies. Also need to extend to 55 squadrons FA for 2 front threat.
His voice has a emmotion of frustration
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I have gone through the comments, I am from Pakistan, India defense industrial base is very weak. Indian defense organizations are over estimating their technical capabilities and trying to make everything locally. 5th generation fighter jets technologies are more specialized. In my opinion with out Joint ventures it is not possible for India to meet 2035 deadlines for AMCA.
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Bharat n Modi govt must initiate multi prong strategy to procure 5th gen fighters from where it can get.
China n pak won't wait for India to induct it's 5th gen fighters.
We could invest in SU 30 highly Upgraded version with Kaveri engine aprx 10 sqdr.