I still remember the day I dreamed with a symphony outstandingly beautiful an complex, my brain created everything effortlessly. I'm pretty sure if I had the knowledge to write that down it would qualify as one of the greatest symphonies of the past centuries. Unfortunately I forgot most of the parts already...
One tip for anyone wishing to compose a symphony but not willing to pay for a program like finale (I hear it is not for free): I can warmly recommend musescore, it is a very good, free music notation software with a great community ready to help... But that is only in passing. I'm glad that you decided to share the composition processes of a classical symphony as I am a real fan of the time of late classics in all, expecially cultural, relations. I'm looking forward to see all of your videos from this series to once compose a symphony on my own.
I concur! Especially with how MuseScore 4 performs these days. It's honestly one of the best notation softwares out there, and being free open-source software certainly helps. :)
Michael: Thank you so much for this series! I've watched several times now, and I am rewatching it AS I compose my first symphony. It has been an invaluable resource and very inspirational - which is great because it seems to be the ONLY series of this kind on TH-cam. If you or anyone else reading has any free or very inexpensive resources they recommend, please comment below. Thank you!!!
I'm currently taking music theory and I never really had any background in music at all. I'm composing a symphony for my end of the class final. Mostly for fun though because it doesn't have to be a symphony but a 16 measure song incorporating all the theory we've learned. Seems a bit easy for me even though I previously knew nothing about music. Composing is very relaxing and rewarding when you get something going. The challenge of composing a symphony with 9 days to complete, fills me with excitement due to me telling myself "oh I can do that with some time to spare". Your explanation of creating a symphony and the parts to it are wonderfully done.
I’ve been playing double bass for about a year and consider myself pretty well versed but I would like to do something on the side and I’d love to make actually good music worth listening to and this series will help a lot.
Thanks Mike for putting this up. I'm in an interesting position, my piano is decent, I was a semi-professional vocalist with about a dozen roles as an opera principal with orchestra, and tons of chorus gigs plus the usual church jobs. I got trained at a famous conservatory in New Jersey, so it turned me on to a lot of excellent stuff. The Britten War Requiem. Stravinsky's Oedipus Rex. Parsifal. I did the 9th at a Festival , that was pretty excellent. Bernstein was supposed to conduct it but he got too sick by then. Long story shorter, I picked up a Digital Audio Workstation in 2018 and got more into composition. I'm taking Intro to Comp through MIT OCW, it is getting things flowing. I've been going back and forth through several genres trying to get my album done, but somehow I keep coming back to the immortal classics. I fell in love with the Holy Minimalists, a few times a year I find myself listening to the Gorecki 3rd. I love everything by Arvo Part. Phillip Glass is pretty good and MIT had us listening to a lot of avant-garde stuff which is almost a total loss aside from opening up the ear a bit. Film scores are always great, and I love all the third stream dudes trying to unite jazz, postromantic and 12-tone. Even better, this video series is incredibly illuminating and helpful, it might put things over the top for me and something decent might come out of my computer. IT's a great idea to start classical and then I could spice it up from there.
Waouh !! Incredible muscial and melodic lessons given here, thank you so much. Writing and playing rock/pop songs and music, i try to integrate some classical parts in our songs, and naturally I try to understand ( we can't say study, i'll need a whole life to this !) how all these genius made classical masterpieces. The gift you offer here is just very understandable by new becomers, even if writing notes on musicals lines in a real learning, we have some tips here to write it with midi system and Virtual instruments. I've just watched the whole creation of the 1st movement, it's amazing !! Thanks a lot to share this with many people. Very kind of you. Subscribed and going to watch and listen others things you have on your Channel. Thanks again Michael. Greeting from France. ;)
Thank you for this series! Exactly what I've been searching for amidst a sea of overly complicated symphony tutorials lol. I have a decent foundation in music theory and I'm jumping into the deep end after writing a few simple pieces and now seeing what I can come up with following your videos. It's been a lot of fun learning more composition tools!
I found your channel recently. Very interesting and creative. Thank you for your time and patience in sharing your knowledge. I have been composing my first symphony for a few months. Before, I composed a string quartet. I would love for you to hear them and also my first movement from Symphony No. 1 called "Nova." I would appreciate your opinions and comments. Grettings from Santiago, Chile.
Thank you so much for making this video series. I have always felt apprehensive about writing a symphony but this gives me so much encouragement to start.
Great video, I am going to watch the whole series! What would be nice to hear nore about is the composition part itself. This video already had great tricks on its own, but I am quite sure I'm going to feel a really blank canvas when I sit down to write. Maybe it is just because I haven't listened to classical music that much, but writing classical melodies and harmonies in a coherent way just seems really complex for me. :) Also contemporary orchestration like Max Richter and Olafur Arnalds make would be really interesting to preview, how it differs from orchestration and composition like this. Thank you!
Nice video. Mozart fan much? No seriously, this is what composing is, it's a struggle with the imagination. I'm working on a piano sonata, or fantasia, not sure technically what it would be categorized as, but it's a struggle, you hear it one way, you think great that's it, next day you hear it slightly different, so you change it, few days days later your like no! what I had before was better! Great let me rework this for 15th time. But it's great fun and means a lot to me to compose. Great video.
I counted that the exposition is 33 bars long. 8 bars 1 theme, 10 bars transition, 11 bars 2 theme and 6 bars closing theme. Why this length, and what to aim for when I'm a beginner making a composition? I just noticed this, now I've made the first three parts (1st theme, transition and 2nd theme) all 8 bars long, so I'm wondering if that is wrong or too short, if I should change it up etc.?
Sounds like you are doing brilliantly. The more compositions you write, and also the more music you listen to while reading the score, the more you'll see how the parts work together. There is no single right way, and you'll find examples of equal length segments exactly as you describe. The most common organization, however, is a shorter theme 1 and a longer section containing theme 2 and the closing theme. That way, the exposition does not feel too rooted to the ground in the primary key. You want to get your air ship up in the air quickly and keep it floating up there. I personally prefer irregular length phrases, because it keeps the music from sounding too predictable or square. But the truth is, anything can work. You have to decide what sounds right to you.
@@grazgorilla Thank you for this wonderful reply! I decided to make my theme 2 a bit longer in the end. This whole series looks absolutely wonderful, I am going to watch through it all. At the same time I think I am going to have to try and read some theory on harmony and making melodies like this. It is good training, for like you said, the melodies here are not predictable in the same way as modern music is. Really hard (at leas for me, at this moment) too, but also rewarding. Thank you for making this series, it truly is a blessing. Also, have a great day today and greetings from Finland. :)
@@grazgorilla ps. Do you happen to know of any good pieces to listen to while reading the score? I'll try to find some good ones and do whay you suggested above, sounds like a good idea!
@@ImaplanetJupiteeeerr Try the Mozart piano sonatas. Easy to get a book of them. And they are performed all together on the following wonderful TH-cam video: th-cam.com/video/Wcgd1oCbW4g/w-d-xo.html
Good question. In this kind of music, I'm thinking exclusively about the melody when I write the sketch. I harmonize it afterward. But there are other kinds of music where the harmonies take first place. Such as the late romantic, chromatic-harmony movement I outlined in the video, How to Write the Slow Movement of a Romantic Symphony: th-cam.com/video/S0-m4tJwj7s/w-d-xo.html
With my DAW I can play it in then go back and edit which might be a little quicker. But this process was faster than I had expected, he must have an incredible ear or a keyboard nearby. The trick for me is to play it in one part at a time, I think that will work pretty well. I don't have to do any transposition because the DAW just plays that piano note with the instrument.
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"yes i wrote 9 symphonies, you're supposed to die after the ninth one but I'm holding up pretty good so far" 😂😂😂😂
The curse had been modernized ...... he stopped posting on TH-cam 🥲
The gods of the baroque period are giving him strength
I still remember the day I dreamed with a symphony outstandingly beautiful an complex, my brain created everything effortlessly. I'm pretty sure if I had the knowledge to write that down it would qualify as one of the greatest symphonies of the past centuries. Unfortunately I forgot most of the parts already...
Yea, same
That's completely fine! I encourage you to try again, and have fun
Sometimes experience is just meant to be that -- experience. Sometimes trying to record, reproduce, and prepare for posterity just gets in the way.
Same
I've had a few dreams like that too! It sounds like brilliant music and then one minute after I wake up I forget most of it.
One tip for anyone wishing to compose a symphony but not willing to pay for a program like finale (I hear it is not for free): I can warmly recommend musescore, it is a very good, free music notation software with a great community ready to help...
But that is only in passing.
I'm glad that you decided to share the composition processes of a classical symphony as I am a real fan of the time of late classics in all, expecially cultural, relations. I'm looking forward to see all of your videos from this series to once compose a symphony on my own.
I concur! Especially with how MuseScore 4 performs these days. It's honestly one of the best notation softwares out there, and being free open-source software certainly helps. :)
Soundslice is a great app
haha that was a lot of fun and makes total sense. Now part 2!
Michael: Thank you so much for this series! I've watched several times now, and I am rewatching it AS I compose my first symphony. It has been an invaluable resource and very inspirational - which is great because it seems to be the ONLY series of this kind on TH-cam. If you or anyone else reading has any free or very inexpensive resources they recommend, please comment below. Thank you!!!
I'm currently taking music theory and I never really had any background in music at all. I'm composing a symphony for my end of the class final. Mostly for fun though because it doesn't have to be a symphony but a 16 measure song incorporating all the theory we've learned. Seems a bit easy for me even though I previously knew nothing about music. Composing is very relaxing and rewarding when you get something going. The challenge of composing a symphony with 9 days to complete, fills me with excitement due to me telling myself "oh I can do that with some time to spare". Your explanation of creating a symphony and the parts to it are wonderfully done.
I’ve been playing double bass for about a year and consider myself pretty well versed but I would like to do something on the side and I’d love to make actually good music worth listening to and this series will help a lot.
Thanks Mike for putting this up. I'm in an interesting position, my piano is decent, I was a semi-professional vocalist with about a dozen roles as an opera principal with orchestra, and tons of chorus gigs plus the usual church jobs. I got trained at a famous conservatory in New Jersey, so it turned me on to a lot of excellent stuff. The Britten War Requiem. Stravinsky's Oedipus Rex. Parsifal. I did the 9th at a Festival , that was pretty excellent. Bernstein was supposed to conduct it but he got too sick by then. Long story shorter, I picked up a Digital Audio Workstation in 2018 and got more into composition. I'm taking Intro to Comp through MIT OCW, it is getting things flowing. I've been going back and forth through several genres trying to get my album done, but somehow I keep coming back to the immortal classics. I fell in love with the Holy Minimalists, a few times a year I find myself listening to the Gorecki 3rd. I love everything by Arvo Part. Phillip Glass is pretty good and MIT had us listening to a lot of avant-garde stuff which is almost a total loss aside from opening up the ear a bit. Film scores are always great, and I love all the third stream dudes trying to unite jazz, postromantic and 12-tone. Even better, this video series is incredibly illuminating and helpful, it might put things over the top for me and something decent might come out of my computer. IT's a great idea to start classical and then I could spice it up from there.
Waouh !!
Incredible muscial and melodic lessons given here, thank you so much.
Writing and playing rock/pop songs and music, i try to integrate some classical parts in our songs, and naturally I try to understand ( we can't say study, i'll need a whole life to this !) how all these genius made classical masterpieces.
The gift you offer here is just very understandable by new becomers, even if writing notes on musicals lines in a real learning, we have some tips here to write it with midi system and Virtual instruments.
I've just watched the whole creation of the 1st movement, it's amazing !!
Thanks a lot to share this with many people. Very kind of you.
Subscribed and going to watch and listen others things you have on your Channel.
Thanks again Michael. Greeting from France. ;)
The best way to write a symphony is just to do it ! Great video !
Thank you for this series! Exactly what I've been searching for amidst a sea of overly complicated symphony tutorials lol. I have a decent foundation in music theory and I'm jumping into the deep end after writing a few simple pieces and now seeing what I can come up with following your videos. It's been a lot of fun learning more composition tools!
I found your channel recently. Very interesting and creative. Thank you for your time and patience in sharing your knowledge.
I have been composing my first symphony for a few months. Before, I composed a string quartet.
I would love for you to hear them and also my first movement from Symphony No. 1 called "Nova."
I would appreciate your opinions and comments.
Grettings from Santiago, Chile.
Thank you so much for making this video series. I have always felt apprehensive about writing a symphony but this gives me so much encouragement to start.
this is fascinating and quite enjoyable!
Really enjoying the series..Getting to learn a lot
Great video, I am going to watch the whole series! What would be nice to hear nore about is the composition part itself. This video already had great tricks on its own, but I am quite sure I'm going to feel a really blank canvas when I sit down to write. Maybe it is just because I haven't listened to classical music that much, but writing classical melodies and harmonies in a coherent way just seems really complex for me. :)
Also contemporary orchestration like Max Richter and Olafur Arnalds make would be really interesting to preview, how it differs from orchestration and composition like this.
Thank you!
awesome video
I'm digging the dark humor😂😂😂
Makes perfect sense
Just an aside: It’s kinda wild to see, in the video’s thumbnail, an F-only, single horn!
This first theme reminds me a bit of haydn’s 39th symphony second movement
VeryWondarFul.
Nice video. Mozart fan much? No seriously, this is what composing is, it's a struggle with the imagination. I'm working on a piano sonata, or fantasia, not sure technically what it would be categorized as, but it's a struggle, you hear it one way, you think great that's it, next day you hear it slightly different, so you change it, few days days later your like no! what I had before was better! Great let me rework this for 15th time. But it's great fun and means a lot to me to compose. Great video.
What website did you use? Or app?
could you do a series on how to compose nocturnes
I counted that the exposition is 33 bars long. 8 bars 1 theme, 10 bars transition, 11 bars 2 theme and 6 bars closing theme.
Why this length, and what to aim for when I'm a beginner making a composition? I just noticed this, now I've made the first three parts (1st theme, transition and 2nd theme) all 8 bars long, so I'm wondering if that is wrong or too short, if I should change it up etc.?
Sounds like you are doing brilliantly. The more compositions you write, and also the more music you listen to while reading the score, the more you'll see how the parts work together. There is no single right way, and you'll find examples of equal length segments exactly as you describe. The most common organization, however, is a shorter theme 1 and a longer section containing theme 2 and the closing theme. That way, the exposition does not feel too rooted to the ground in the primary key. You want to get your air ship up in the air quickly and keep it floating up there. I personally prefer irregular length phrases, because it keeps the music from sounding too predictable or square. But the truth is, anything can work. You have to decide what sounds right to you.
@@grazgorilla Thank you for this wonderful reply! I decided to make my theme 2 a bit longer in the end.
This whole series looks absolutely wonderful, I am going to watch through it all. At the same time I think I am going to have to try and read some theory on harmony and making melodies like this. It is good training, for like you said, the melodies here are not predictable in the same way as modern music is. Really hard (at leas for me, at this moment) too, but also rewarding.
Thank you for making this series, it truly is a blessing. Also, have a great day today and greetings from Finland. :)
@@grazgorilla ps. Do you happen to know of any good pieces to listen to while reading the score? I'll try to find some good ones and do whay you suggested above, sounds like a good idea!
@@ImaplanetJupiteeeerr Try the Mozart piano sonatas. Easy to get a book of them. And they are performed all together on the following wonderful TH-cam video:
th-cam.com/video/Wcgd1oCbW4g/w-d-xo.html
@@grazgorilla Thank you, I will do that! :) 🎼
If this is you building Ikea furniture i guess I'm working on the budget bookshelves at K mart 😂
ı need your help mr graziano ı got the first theme and the transitaion but ı cant write anything to other
nstrunments or moving on to 2nd theme
how much are you thinking about the chord changes as opposed to the melody
Good question. In this kind of music, I'm thinking exclusively about the melody when I write the sketch. I harmonize it afterward. But there are other kinds of music where the harmonies take first place. Such as the late romantic, chromatic-harmony movement I outlined in the video, How to Write the Slow Movement of a Romantic Symphony:
th-cam.com/video/S0-m4tJwj7s/w-d-xo.html
it's crazy that there are still people today who compose by setting a note with the mouse... really funny.... 🤩
With my DAW I can play it in then go back and edit which might be a little quicker. But this process was faster than I had expected, he must have an incredible ear or a keyboard nearby. The trick for me is to play it in one part at a time, I think that will work pretty well. I don't have to do any transposition because the DAW just plays that piano note with the instrument.
guys does micheal graziano has a social media platform or any communicate way ???
He Survived Nine!
What website is that🤨
1:18
@@jordan.newsom yeah I already knew that
Hi Graz, I am Michael I liked your videos and helped me a lot thanks for sharing this l have gained a basic how it works.
Thanks Prof. Michael
Is he still alive?
He still is! And has since uploaded a couple dozen more videos on composing symphonies!
I need help writing transitions, it's just so FRUSTRAITING!