Like many have said before me, it is great to see you back in the shop. Take all the time you need in your recovery. We need you to be healthy and showing us the way to get these projects done.
Hi Mike, sure enjoy your helpful videos, unlike you I cannot find any of the Honda minis around my area, this one was bought in pieces off mostly Ebay. So, it is a project for sure. Madder of fact I have not had luck finding any four stroke Hondas from this era in my area. They are just that popular I'm assuming. Thanks for stopping by Mike.
First off I am glad your recovering from your surgery, and your moving forward on a new project that is going to be great to watch, Thank you for such great content and sharing your knowledge I am always inspired by your ideas and craftsmanship, your fan Joe.
Hi Dale, It's so lovely to see you back in the shop again. I was thinking about you and wondering when we would see you again. then today 10th November a notification popped up. This new project looks like it will be fun I will be there every step of the way. I have been watching a lot of your past videos all good my friend. take care Dale see you soon in the shop buddy.
Thank you, Brian, I am ready to get going, I just could not do nothing for the weekend video, so I gathered up all that stuff and did the introduction. Not the same as hands on grinding, welding, and boring, but I think it was accepted pretty well. All that other stuff will be coming up. Thanks again Brian.
The 4 speed little xr75 was surely a game changer as well, tough as hell and if you were young and crazy , surely it fit your over reving needs without blowing up
Can't wait for this one, I got a brand new '72 SL70 when i was 14. It was a blue one. My only new bike until 2022. Loved that thing, got me in a ton of trouble haha.
Hi Dale Good To See You Are On The Recovery Nice Little Project , I'm Glad You Are Painting The Frame, ( Not Powder Coating It ) I Would Not Waste My Money On Powder Coat, It Chips Then Gets Water Etc Underneath It And Rusts Your Frame Out. I'm Sure There Are People Who Swear By Powder Coating & They Will Think It's The Bees Knees. I Would Not Waste My Money On Powder Coating Any Bike. If I Get A Chip On The Paint , I Can Easily Fix It & Won't Cost An Arm & A Leg To Do It
No argument from me Jon, I have never powder coated anything. Paint was good enough for the factory its good enough for me. I agree it is an expense that I don't need.
In the late '70's when I was training to be a motorcycle mechanic I had to fully rebuild a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke. My 2 stroke was a 71 TS90 with a 100cc motocross kit and the 4 stroke was a 71 SL 70. I bought it for $50 from a guy that used to flat track it and was moving up to a Kaw G4. I installed a Powroll 104cc bore kit in the SL. It has always had a smoking problem but the cases needed to be replaced (threw a chain) so it has been sitting almost 50 years. I have collected all the parts to restore it to mostly stock. I will be interested to see how that 125 fits in there. The cases do have bosses for the the lower mounts. Mine are stripped so I don't use them. I'm going to have to drag that thing out and do some work in it.
Glad to see you up and about , don't rush the healing process . It is crazy how fast parts for anything add up now , this will be a cool build for sure !
Great to see you up and about Dale, take it easy and look after yourself my friend. Don't rush, we will be here. This looks like a fun project, I'm completely on board with the philosophy of this one. Best wishes, Dean.
Thanks Dean, I'm doing pretty good. I'm ready to get back to the shop. Yeah, wish I had a Honda engine, it's just cost prohibited to do it that way. These Lifen engines are bolt in for the most part. It's just a fun project, the RM in the box project I did much the same way. It's easier to find most of the parts than it is to find a complete bike.
Hi Dale hope you're back to full strength. Great project, I've never seen an SL in the flesh, I'm sure it will look really good when finished. As you know the costs can quickly rack up, I like original Honda motors but yes they are expensive to rebuild & a Lifan is a good option. All the best, Darren.
Thanks Darren, I wish I had the original engine to rebuild but since this is just a bunch of parts procured to make a bike, it was just too much to find an engine and then rebuild it.
Hi Dale, I hope you're feeling stronger. I'm just finishing up a restoration of one of these bikes. I had one as a kid so this has been a lot of fun. Regarding the engine mounts, there are two bolts (8 mm) attached to the bottom of the engine. It looks like someone removed these tabs on your frame. I really enjoy your channel. You do very nice work. Keep riding, Dave.
Thank you and I am much better. Yes, I have had a couple folks send me pictures of the lower bolts. I think most folks just hang them from the rear two. But I will be cutting these brackets off and reinstalling them so they will be used when I'm done. Think this will be a fun project.
Looks like a cool project. Hope you feel better soon. I have a well-worn XR-75 that needs a little work. The kids got a lot of fun out of it back in the day. Thanks for the project intro. Love these videos! Keep 'em coming.
Thank you, I am doing good and ready to get back to the shop. You should dust of the XR and freshen it up a bit. Think you will enjoy the project, lots of parts available for these little machines.
Thanks Doug, doing better this week, heading out to the shop today. Yeah, this has been a good year collecting parts for this project. Now it's time to give it a go.
Looks like a great project Dale. I've got a Honda CA160 that also needs a lot.That's the one they call the Baby Dream, but it's real name is Benly. I found aftermarket chrome exhausts and an aftermarket wiring harness which was easier than trying to make one up. I think the total cost for the harness was $29 so, it was a no-brainer. It's a 60s bike, so it's pretty amazing that I found aftermarket exhausts.
A buddy of mine wheels and deals in the little Honda trails, and other mini bikes. He's always buying engines and parts off of Amazon. They have some pretty trick looking anodized parts. I machined a top triple clamp for him to make it work on one he was rebuilding. Just had to bore the holes for the forks a little larger, and over to one side a little.
It is amazing how much aftermarket support there is for these. Certainly not that way for most of the other bikes I deal with. That was fun machining the triple, I did one of those on the 360 flattracker I have in the shop. I enjoy that machining op.
Nice. Good things will happen, just like they said. Jaguars, Enfields, and Jeeps are made in, or by people from India now, and Honda has been offshoring parts for more than 40 years. Great way to go.
Yeah, the aftermarket is strong on this little machine. I am sure that will help move this one along, I'm just not use to having so many good parts, I usually have to make or rebuild lots of stuff for these old bikes.
you don't need the bottom mounts, the motor hangs in there with 2 long bolts in the back just like you said, when you get it running you will throw rocks at those yamaha's cuz that thing will purr like a kitten and start on the first kick every time, iv got one and its the best running motor iv ever owned, can't wait 2 see you get on it, good luck with it and glad your doing good...
Thanks James, yes, I guess Honda did use the bottom bolts, but most folks just use the two hanging bolts in the rear. We will see how it turns out. Long way to go to get it running, next summer on the paint for sure.
You look like you are hurting. Hope you get better brother. I have a book if you need info. I would be in bad shape if I had a motorcycle junk yard. And I do still have a few parts from a Cl100 build.
Yeah, they are cool machines but small they are. A growing boy can outgrow one in a year. I have never messed with one, so this is all new to me. That means twice the fun.
I have an alarm 70 that I swapped out the original engine for a 140 cc Chinese engine. It was very difficult to get it into the frame because the cylinder and head are longer than the 70 that I took out. It fit but didn’t slip in like the original. The original engine ran fine but only went about 35.
Frankenstein was cool and he had many miss matched parts. LOL. had to pick myself off the floor when i saw the picture, 4 stroke/Chinese. anyway sounds like a fun project to me.
Yes, this is not what I usually do, I wish I had the original engine, but I don't. Chinese is not my thing, I really had to think about this a while, for I don't by Chinese tools or much of anything else from there.
@@montana2strokeracer warranty is almost impossible to get even if its offered. hate to do business with China also, they are eating our lunch, just hope Trump can put a dent in our relationship/or lack of that is.
I'm a huge fan of your work but Id need also a huge clothespin on my nose to purchase and use that Chinese motor. It's cheap because.......... Anyway, look forward to this build. I'm an old Honda guy so really want to see how things go
Yeah, I know, I hate the fact that I am going that way, but I don't have any engine, and this is how I can watch my pennies and still do a project. Heck the kids won't care, as long as it goes.
There's a market for those bikes. Parents with a large property or a farm will buy that for their kids or personal use. A head/tail light and speedo would make it more desirable. No need to put a number plate on it. People don't want the hassle of annual road taxes.
I think so, even a new minibike these days is over 5000.00, unless its Chinese. No body needs to ride something like this on the street. Its off-road fun only.
> 25 hundo seems way out of line to save something for posterity. ya, my best friend back in the day had an sl-70 which he put a hooker header on it. the potentially problematic thing with the motor would have been the crankshaft mounted clutch. to put it in perspective in 1983 i purchased off the showroom floor from AERO P.A. for 1900$ a NOS '82 husky XC-250. owned & raced it trouble free for 20 something years even came with a title which allowed me the opportunity to license it for (enduro) competition.
Those days are gone my friend. These days a Husky 250 will run you over 10000.00 and I doubt it will last 5 years trouble free. A small minibike new these days is over 5000.00 unless it's a Chinese built machine. I still think 2500.00 is reasonable in today's market.
The XL70 came standard with turn signals and a speedometer. The gas tank is a different shape and the tail light was black instead of chrome. Not too much else is different.
The little xr75 had a different engine design,it was a little more of a peppy engine design than the sl70s,the xr75 was had a little faster throttle response while accelerating,its the downfall of the older 50,70,90 engine design,that actually was originally hondas early moped motor design
Yeah, I like the vertical engines better myself, had a SL125 years ago, it was just nicer looking to me. Really though, the little Honda 4 strokes just never could compete with the same size 2 strokes. But they last longer for sure.
Like many have said before me, it is great to see you back in the shop. Take all the time you need in your recovery. We need you to be healthy and showing us the way to get these projects done.
Hi Dale!
It is grate to see you back with New projects.
Take care yourself.
Thank you Luis
Looks like a fun project.
Hi Mike, sure enjoy your helpful videos, unlike you I cannot find any of the Honda minis around my area, this one was bought in pieces off mostly Ebay. So, it is a project for sure. Madder of fact I have not had luck finding any four stroke Hondas from this era in my area. They are just that popular I'm assuming. Thanks for stopping by Mike.
First off I am glad your recovering from your surgery, and your moving forward on a new project that is going to be great to watch, Thank you for such great content and sharing your knowledge I am always inspired by your ideas and craftsmanship, your fan Joe.
Thank you, Joe, I am looking forward to getting back in the shop and starting this new project also. Going to be fun.
Thanks Dale , I love riding these old small Hondas . Thanks for the update Dale .
Yeah, all those little bikes from that era are cool. I think more now than then.
Hi Dale, It's so lovely to see you back in the shop again. I was thinking about you and wondering when we would see you again. then today 10th November a notification popped up. This new project looks like it will be fun I will be there every step of the way. I have been watching a lot of your past videos all good my friend. take care Dale see you soon in the shop buddy.
Thank you, Brian, I am ready to get going, I just could not do nothing for the weekend video, so I gathered up all that stuff and did the introduction. Not the same as hands on grinding, welding, and boring, but I think it was accepted pretty well. All that other stuff will be coming up. Thanks again Brian.
Anxiously awaiting this SL70 project. I just started a 1972 CL70 and might want Lifan option. GET WELL SOON. Great channel and content!
Yeah, me too Chad, but it will probably be a while since I just had a setback in my recovery. Thanks for hanging out with me in the shop.
The 4 speed little xr75 was surely a game changer as well, tough as hell and if you were young and crazy , surely it fit your over reving needs without blowing up
Good to see you back in the shop Dale. Super excited for this build as I'm a big fan of Honda mini's.
Thanks Mike, and I'm looking forward to this project.
Wish you well Dale..!
That's a nice project SL70 Honda coming up... Good Luck on the build ! 👍
Thank you, I think it will be a fun project. A Honda.....not seen very often on this channel. Looking forward to it.
Can't wait for this one, I got a brand new '72 SL70 when i was 14. It was a blue one. My only new bike until 2022. Loved that thing, got me in a ton of trouble haha.
Cool machines for sure, they are well built, and I believe this is going to be a fun project.
It is great to see you back Dale.
We hate Lilly SL is going to be a sweet little ride.
I can’t wait to see the finished project.
Thanks Don, hope your surgery goes well also. Yes, a nice little bike, got a long way to go on it.
Glad to see you are recovering well Dale! That sounds like it will be a really nice project. Looking forward to it. Take care of yourself.
Thanks Dave, I think this is going to be fun. Will do my friend.
glad to see you back dale great little project your goin to be a busy man next video please
All for the fun of it Mark!
Hi Dale: Good to see you today.......Good Luck on your recovery........Hope to see you back "in the groove soon".
Yep doing good Bob, thanks a bunch.
Hi Dale
Good To See You Are On The Recovery
Nice Little Project , I'm Glad You Are Painting The Frame, ( Not Powder Coating It )
I Would Not Waste My Money On Powder Coat, It Chips Then Gets Water Etc Underneath It And Rusts Your Frame Out.
I'm Sure There Are People Who Swear By Powder Coating & They Will Think It's The Bees Knees.
I Would Not Waste My Money On Powder Coating Any Bike. If I Get A Chip On The Paint , I Can Easily Fix It & Won't Cost An Arm & A Leg To Do It
No argument from me Jon, I have never powder coated anything. Paint was good enough for the factory its good enough for me. I agree it is an expense that I don't need.
Great to see you back in the workshop. Look after yourself mate. The main thing is to get back to full strength.
Cheers, Peter.
Thank you, Peter, I am doing much better, heading out to the shop to start this weekend's video.
In the late '70's when I was training to be a motorcycle mechanic I had to fully rebuild a 2 stroke and a 4 stroke. My 2 stroke was a 71 TS90 with a 100cc motocross kit and the 4 stroke was a 71 SL 70. I bought it for $50 from a guy that used to flat track it and was moving up to a Kaw G4. I installed a Powroll 104cc bore kit in the SL. It has always had a smoking problem but the cases needed to be replaced (threw a chain) so it has been sitting almost 50 years. I have collected all the parts to restore it to mostly stock. I will be interested to see how that 125 fits in there. The cases do have bosses for the the lower mounts. Mine are stripped so I don't use them. I'm going to have to drag that thing out and do some work in it.
Awesome, sounds like a great project. Glad to see you tackle it. The 125 engine is bolt in, no mods required.
Have fun Dale! Look forward to seeing it come together.
Should be fun Graham, hope you come along on the ride.
@montana2strokeracer Glad to see you back in the shop Dale. We missed you.
Well, this will be a very cool video series! A Honda? With a Chinese engine? That's new! Great to see youo back making videos, my friend.
I know I know, Chinese, I don't even buy Chinese tools. This out in left field for sure. Still going to be a fun project.
The G4 had stainless fenders,nice
Glad to see you up and about , don't rush the healing process . It is crazy how fast parts for anything add up now , this will be a cool build for sure !
Thanks John, coming along pretty good those doctors are amazing what they can do. Yeah man this thing is going to be fun and cool.
Great to see you up and about Dale, take it easy and look after yourself my friend. Don't rush, we will be here. This looks like a fun project, I'm completely on board with the philosophy of this one.
Best wishes, Dean.
Thanks Dean, I'm doing pretty good. I'm ready to get back to the shop. Yeah, wish I had a Honda engine, it's just cost prohibited to do it that way. These Lifen engines are bolt in for the most part. It's just a fun project, the RM in the box project I did much the same way. It's easier to find most of the parts than it is to find a complete bike.
Hi Dale hope you're back to full strength. Great project, I've never seen an SL in the flesh, I'm sure it will look really good when finished. As you know the costs can quickly rack up, I like original Honda motors but yes they are expensive to rebuild & a Lifan is a good option. All the best, Darren.
Thanks Darren, I wish I had the original engine to rebuild but since this is just a bunch of parts procured to make a bike, it was just too much to find an engine and then rebuild it.
Hi Dale,
I hope you're feeling stronger. I'm just finishing up a restoration of one of these bikes. I had one as a kid so this has been a lot of fun. Regarding the engine mounts, there are two bolts (8 mm) attached to the bottom of the engine. It looks like someone removed these tabs on your frame. I really enjoy your channel. You do very nice work. Keep riding, Dave.
Thank you and I am much better. Yes, I have had a couple folks send me pictures of the lower bolts. I think most folks just hang them from the rear two. But I will be cutting these brackets off and reinstalling them so they will be used when I'm done. Think this will be a fun project.
Thank you for today's video, it's great to see you with a new project. Take good care of yourself and I hope that your recovery is coming along well.
Thanks Curtis, this is going to be fun. Looking forward to the little Honda.
Looks like a cool project. Hope you feel better soon. I have a well-worn XR-75 that needs a little work. The kids got a lot of fun out of it back in the day. Thanks for the project intro. Love these videos! Keep 'em coming.
Thank you, I am doing good and ready to get back to the shop. You should dust of the XR and freshen it up a bit. Think you will enjoy the project, lots of parts available for these little machines.
Good to see you back in the shop Dale. Even if for a sneak peek at your next build. Quite an inventory of parts collected to get started on this one.
Thanks Doug, doing better this week, heading out to the shop today. Yeah, this has been a good year collecting parts for this project. Now it's time to give it a go.
Looks like a great project Dale. I've got a Honda CA160 that also needs a lot.That's the one they call the Baby Dream, but it's real name is Benly. I found aftermarket chrome exhausts and an aftermarket wiring harness which was easier than trying to make one up. I think the total cost for the harness was $29 so, it was a no-brainer. It's a 60s bike, so it's pretty amazing that I found aftermarket exhausts.
Hey Jack, yeah, these Hondas have lots of parts support compared to the other bikes. My problem is I just can't find the bikes around here.
Glad to see you back at it.
Hi Dale l will be following this project with enthusiasm as when l was young, l had a XL 70 which was a great little bike.
Thanks Darren, glad to have you along on the ride, this is going to be a hoot to build.
Hope all is well.Dig the project.im working on a 1972 cb100 now.have 2nd one that's complete.very fun to ride.
I'm doing good James, thank you. All these bikes are so much fun, especially the smaller ones.
A buddy of mine wheels and deals in the little Honda trails, and other mini bikes. He's always buying engines and parts off of Amazon. They have some pretty trick looking anodized parts. I machined a top triple clamp for him to make it work on one he was rebuilding. Just had to bore the holes for the forks a little larger, and over to one side a little.
It is amazing how much aftermarket support there is for these. Certainly not that way for most of the other bikes I deal with. That was fun machining the triple, I did one of those on the 360 flattracker I have in the shop. I enjoy that machining op.
@@montana2strokeracer Nice.
Here too!
Nice. Good things will happen, just like they said.
Jaguars, Enfields, and Jeeps are made in, or by people from India now, and Honda has been offshoring parts for more than 40 years. Great way to go.
Yeah, the aftermarket is strong on this little machine. I am sure that will help move this one along, I'm just not use to having so many good parts, I usually have to make or rebuild lots of stuff for these old bikes.
you don't need the bottom mounts, the motor hangs in there with 2 long bolts in the back just like you said, when you get it running you will throw rocks at those yamaha's cuz that thing will purr like a kitten and start on the first kick every time, iv got one and its the best running motor iv ever owned, can't wait 2 see you get on it, good luck with it and glad your doing good...
Thanks James, yes, I guess Honda did use the bottom bolts, but most folks just use the two hanging bolts in the rear. We will see how it turns out. Long way to go to get it running, next summer on the paint for sure.
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I have 8 XR75's, KO through K3, I need to send you one, they all need restoration.
Wow, you need to start bringing them in one at a time and getting it done. It really is a lot of fun. Join the fun my friend.
You look like you are hurting. Hope you get better brother. I have a book if you need info. I would be in bad shape if I had a motorcycle junk yard. And I do still have a few parts from a Cl100 build.
Not really Cain, just some discomfort, yes, I know the feeling I have way too many motorsickle parts around here, but no Honda stuff.
My first motorcycle was a 1972 SL70 and it had the optional speedometer. Out grow that little sucker fast and went to the yamaha at3
Yeah, they are cool machines but small they are. A growing boy can outgrow one in a year. I have never messed with one, so this is all new to me. That means twice the fun.
I have a SL175 that in the row of projects ! Pretty complete apart from the air filter things.
That will be a nice project. I liked the entire line of the SL models.
@@montana2strokeracer It is indeed Dale !
Too bad there's very little to find about the SL175.
i built one similiar, would pull wheelies in all 4 gears. the 125 motor is taller, so i am anxious to see how you get the stock pipe to fit.....
I have an alarm 70 that I swapped out the original engine for a 140 cc Chinese engine. It was very difficult to get it into the frame because the cylinder and head are longer than the 70 that I took out. It fit but didn’t slip in like the original. The original engine ran fine but only went about 35.
Yes, they aren't easy but do go in without modifications, I have watched Minibike Mike do it many times.
Frankenstein was cool and he had many miss matched parts. LOL. had to pick myself off the floor when i saw the picture, 4 stroke/Chinese. anyway sounds like a fun project to me.
Yes, this is not what I usually do, I wish I had the original engine, but I don't. Chinese is not my thing, I really had to think about this a while, for I don't by Chinese tools or much of anything else from there.
@@montana2strokeracer warranty is almost impossible to get even if its offered. hate to do business with China also, they are eating our lunch, just hope Trump can put a dent in our relationship/or lack of that is.
I'm a huge fan of your work but Id need also a huge clothespin on my nose to purchase and use that Chinese motor. It's cheap because..........
Anyway, look forward to this build. I'm an old Honda guy so really want to see how things go
Yeah, I know, I hate the fact that I am going that way, but I don't have any engine, and this is how I can watch my pennies and still do a project. Heck the kids won't care, as long as it goes.
I love SL70s . What happened health wise?
Yeah, cool machines, had robotic surgery to remove the prostrate. Now I pee like a 15-year-old. I'm excited.
There's a market for those bikes. Parents with a large property or a farm will buy that for their kids or personal use. A head/tail light and speedo would make it more desirable. No need to put a number plate on it. People don't want the hassle of annual road taxes.
I think so, even a new minibike these days is over 5000.00, unless its Chinese. No body needs to ride something like this on the street. Its off-road fun only.
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Thanks buddy.
When am I going to see that old early red and chrome tank Kawasaki G4 ,10 speed trail boss show up?😊
Probably when you send one this way, LOL. I haven't seen one in my locale in years.
Take your time recovering Dale! Projects will all get done in good time!
Looking forward to seeing the results on this one!
Thanks Wayne, back in the shop a little at a time. Ready to take the new adventure with the SL70
Janus Motorcycles are made with Chinese engines.
> 25 hundo seems way out of line to save something for posterity. ya, my best friend back in the day had an sl-70 which he put a hooker header on it. the potentially problematic thing with the motor would have been the crankshaft mounted clutch. to put it in perspective in 1983 i purchased off the showroom floor from AERO P.A. for 1900$ a NOS '82 husky XC-250. owned & raced it trouble free for 20 something years even came with a title which allowed me the opportunity to license it for (enduro) competition.
Those days are gone my friend. These days a Husky 250 will run you over 10000.00 and I doubt it will last 5 years trouble free. A small minibike new these days is over 5000.00 unless it's a Chinese built machine. I still think 2500.00 is reasonable in today's market.
What's the difference between a XL 70 and a sl-70?😮
The XL70 came standard with turn signals and a speedometer. The gas tank is a different shape and the tail light was black instead of chrome. Not too much else is different.
I don't have a clue, think Pete has you covered below.
The little xr75 had a different engine design,it was a little more of a peppy engine design than the sl70s,the xr75 was had a little faster throttle response while accelerating,its the downfall of the older 50,70,90 engine design,that actually was originally hondas early moped motor design
Yeah, I like the vertical engines better myself, had a SL125 years ago, it was just nicer looking to me. Really though, the little Honda 4 strokes just never could compete with the same size 2 strokes. But they last longer for sure.