Great video Viny! I was a machinist for SKF USA until they relocated to India. The raceway (SKF called it a "cup") you were trying to make is a difficult part to craft at home. At the factory we used a magnetic chuck and cup shoes at the 6 and 3 o'clock positions to hold the cup centered in place during the grinding process. The process is to first make the cup larger than the finished product by around +.030 to +.060 (+.75 to +1.5mm) then heat treat the rough oversized "green cup". After the heat treat process, the cup is then finish ground to size with a stone (while using coolant). We used Cincinnati Milicron grinding equipment that held the cup in place with a magnetic chuck. You could substitute a finish grinder in place of your lathe tool holder and if you can work out a magnetic chuck for your lathe driver with steadying shoes at the 6 and 3 o'clock positions, welcome to the bearing manufacture business. I realize you're probably not going to make this exact size cup again but the same process applies with all bearing cups. I know you can do it, understanding the process is the key.
that or finish machining after heat treating, skinny big diameter pats are a pain if you want minimum distortion you gotta flip them bunch of times before machine them to size
That’s a big win. keep your eye out for another bearing race. Somewhere out there, on a shelf in a dusty box with the label worn off is pair of rebuild kits, bearings, races, gaskets and seals. The biggest changes in my lifetime is the internet and information sharing, so keep a list of part### , it’s out there somewhere. Great TH-cam channel!
Paul from Ontario here... I love the video, great repair... I am working on IH 434 here... When I am forced to machine thin unhappy parts like that, I have been known to hose clamp a die grinder or even a 4 inch electric grinder right to the tool holder, then grind the parts... Way less pressure on the parts and chuck teeth... I might have even been seen gluing or spot welding parts to a heavier base to clamp. Or even, heaven forbid right to the chuck... I am an outside the box thinker... I don't like it when parts come out to try to get me lol... Cheers... You seem like a cool guy to hang out with :)
Hey thanks Paul for your suggestions! My mindset was not at it's best this afternoon of machining, and thinking of smarter/safer ways to make it was not my priority, unfortunately! 🤦♂️I'll do it better next time!
@@VinyB57 Kinda makes a guy wonder how they made them in the first place? :) One piece like you did, or rolled and welded or maybe stamped or maybe even powder pressed? IDK?
@@paulpedersen6904 I've seen parts like that made from thicker sheet metal heated and conformed in a many ton press and die to "rough shape", then the inside is ground to surface, the rest then cut off, and ces't viola!, a new part. IDK if part of Viny's parts problem is where he is- most bearings are in standard sizes, if for no other reason than the sheer cost to have a proprietary line done for them.
Also, a trick for the arsenal... the Liquid JB Weld will affix very firmly, but becomes a fluid again and turns loose at about 6 or 700 degrees Fahrenheit, easily achievable with propane or a mapp gas torch and PROBABLY without affecting your heat treat TOO much. So you could always affix the workpiece to something more skookum with the JB, machine it, then separate the two with the plumber's torch. I'm told you can do the same thing with super glue but... spinning schtuff held together with superglue in a lathe a foot form my face makes my tail all bushy. The original source of this wisdom came to me from an old guy that had a bulldozer with a live PTO shaft coming out the back of the transmission. It wasn't a spud, it was machined right onto one of the main shafts of the trans. It was hardcore, double-secret unobtainium, would have required completely disassembling the crawler and THEN completely tearing down the transmission, and that just wasn't going to happen. The whole thing was on the brown side of ripe, and disturbing the factory assembly to such an extent would just result in a whole lot of deferred maintenance. But the splines were clapped on the PTO shaft, and it would keep throwing the PTO driveline for whatever implement they were using. Now, they only used this machine occasionally, and only with two implements, and they used one for half the year and the other for the other half. So they drove the coupling pin out of the yoke for the implement shaft, stuffed it in place on the PTO output shaft, mixed up a batch of liquid JB weld nice and runny, poured it in the hole and let it run around the splines and set up cock stiff. They'd run the implement half the year, swap it out for the other one, warm up the coupler with a torch, and it would slide right off and they'd swap to the other implement shaft, lather, rinse, and repeat. He assured me they'd been doing this for years with no problems. Might solve a tricky fixturing issue at some point in the future. Cheers!
Great video as always. A note on cleaning, as I do a lot of assy/disassy of heavy equipment (loaders, graders, fork lifts)... get a rubbermaid storage tub and pour a gallon of diesel in it. Don't clean parts as you disect assemblies... put whole assembly in the tub and clean your parts as you go. It helps keep your work space much cleaner and the filth is contained.
The humor side of these videos always cracks me up. Got a good friend and his wife up in Winnipeg. Were going up there next year. LOL May just stay there.
That was painful. Love the patients to fix it. Put a new tractor on the wish list. It only took me 30 years to get my new tractor, only wish i had it sooner. Love your channel and joking around. Keep up the good work.
Hope it wasn't too painful to watch! 😉 I kinda like my old MF... in a few years she will be the best looking thing around the neighborhood...😅 (if I exclude my wife! )
Wow!!..That was a lot of work!!!..Really great seeing you fabricate the parts you need..I just purchased an old Atlas lathe and I believe the learning curve is a little steep but I will get there..-John
Oh my lord, this looks just like the tractor my grandfather sold a few years ago, albeit his was heavily modified after MANY YEARS of daily use. What made him sell it in the end? He was getting too old to keep up with it, and parts were impossible to get, especially where we live(so we had to weld and make our own parts). They truly dont make them like they used to. thanks for the video
Vinny I love your videos and hope to use some of what you have learned and taught on the channel to fix up my truck and a few other things I want to get running again👍
Vinny is my spirit animal I swear…..😂😂😂. Heck of an effort. I’m actually shocked and impressed you were able to make a lot of the parts you made in your own shop.
I’m in Vancouver, else I’d come by with a case of a Molson to celebrate a terrific job, one that the patron Saint of all Canadian men, Red Green, would certainly approve in both quality and execution!
I like it. Very resourceful. Have to do that when you want to keep the old iron alive instead of falling into that pit of having to buy new stuff that doesn’t last. Kinda the same boat we are in with the ‘83 Case 1490 (rebadged David Brown,) most stuff is either unavailable, crazy expensive or only readily found in Europe where DBs are all over.
I watch TH-cam vids for entertainment and information, your video gave me plenty of entertainment. I will watch for more of your videos. Also, I to am a Canadian. Thanks for sharing
Hey! glad you got entertained my fellow canadian friend! There's a few more vids available! But start with the newest stuff...the younger, the better...a mean...you got it, right? 🤦♂️
I have to say that is about the toughest part I've ever seen anyone successfully make to repair a piece of equipment. Getting that steel bearing race part fabricated, hardened, and installed without specalized tools and equipment took this to a whole different level. Skill, ingenuiety, and sheer willpower to get the job done that you displayed makes me applaud you. I commend you to the highest level, you are a different kind of man, a type not often seen today, quite rare indeed. Thank you for posting this record of your work.
Viny you're the engineer here and you're the one who has an idea of what he's doing but, wouldn't have been better to make 3D printed dimple dies for the bearing race and given it shape with a press???
I wouldn't do 3D printed dies, cause it needs to be at 90° and would required a sh!t ton of force to forme...but I think, you're right, they must have used that process to manufacture those races...I never though about dimple dies...good idea mate! 👌
@VinyB57 tbh 3D printed dies made of nyloncf or petg filaments could be fairly strong, I suggest looking into it for future projects, but I suppose it's a simple enough shape that you could've made the dimple on the laith Excellent work as always! I can't wait to see more restoration work done to this tractor
You have some of the most enjoyable mechanical videos I have ever seen on the 'tubes. Amazing job. We have a similar Masey parked in the woods here near our farm shop that was parked 30+ years ago because of similar issues. Parts you can no longer get. I occasionally will search Ebay for parts, and I do get lucky sometimes. Eventually I will have enough parts to get it put back together. I just don't have the patience or tooling needed to make my own parts like you do.
I have been subbed, always like and often add my 2 cents here in the comment section. You are making this tractor be ready for another 40 years, well, at least 20 🙂 Thanks VinyB 👍💪✌
One thought on heating up the bearing race, you could try a makeshift oven by heating it up with the torch and surrounding it with fire bricks, maybe it could contain enough heat to get it up to temp
Love your work! You know what will happen in another 40 years' time... some TH-camr (or the equivalent) will dismantle that hub and marvel at the repairs... perhaps not in a sympathetic way!! But you can only do the best with what you have, and I think that is exactly what you've done. Well done!
Vraiment du beau travail! Sérieux j’ai adoré ton vidéo! Ça fesait très drôle d’écouter en anglais avec un accent connu😂Mais ma partie préférée c’est les sacres 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks , I have already watched all your tractor videos and look forward to more My first tractors were roper garden tractors but built my own loader and backhoe for them Planning on swapping them over to the massey
I would be very interested to see how the 3d-printed seal holds up in the long term. I think it has a fighting chance in the low speed, short action environment though.
Oh yeah, I'm sure it will be just fine! If it wasn't for the time it takes to re-assembled the spindel with the yoke, printing a new one and changing it would be super easy!
Once again, you have absolutely amazed me, Mr. B, and your French Canadian accent and corny jokes are part of what has endeared me to you and your adventures. By the way, did you ever get heat in your shop? Thanks for sharing with us Viny, I certainly enjoyed it!
Je suis content que vos vidéos aient été diffusées sur ma suggestion. Je peux tout à fait comprendre vos frustrations. Et comprendre vos frustrations dans plus d'une langue était extrêmement pertinent. Restez au chaud cet hiver, mon ami. J'essaierai de faire la même chose dans la neige de SLC, Utah.
@@VinyB57 Option C : Brésil. J'ai grandi aux États-Unis. Mon père est français. Depois de um certo tempo, todos os idiomas baseados em latin se misturam. Abraços.
Get some refractory bricks for sitting parts on to hear treat, they're pretty cheap and won't suck heat. In lieu of plate you can use a high carbon square baror round and roll into a circle, leave a good overlap and forge weld or weld the ends together with an equivalent filler. You can get a lot more material varieties on round than plate form and much cheaper.
too bad shipping would be hella expensive, but I think all those parts are available in Argentina, lots of Massey Fergusson tractors and combines, and therefore lots of repair parts. And since we are used to keep everything even when farms and manufacturers move to new equipment, part stores usually keep the repair parts from when they opened for business
Front end loader and a backhoe is asking for major trouble with those compact tractors. When we were a farm tractor salvage yard, we would sell the front end parts almost as soon as we got the tractors in. We've even sold 2wd conversion kits for these MF, and Deutz-Allis tractors. Eventually my dad was able to find a bearing manufacturer so we could sell new bearings for these, but that was years ago and we stopped being a salvage yard 5 years ago.
Next time you machine something like the bearing race, the last matching operation should be to separate the race from the excess material. You want to use a surface where a large tolerance does not affect the fit or function of the part. You may even do the separation after the heat treat. Also try using an insulating surface on top of your metal table when heating up your part, like some thin cement board. This way you will get less heat transfer out of your part.
If you have to make another bearing race in the future. Finish your bearing services to specks, leaving the outside a little bit of extra material like a T shape. Print out a hard plastic plug for the bearing side that is pressed in place. Then chuck it in the 4 jaw. Take a grinder and bring the outside to specks. It shouldn't become warped as easily, and you can clamp to scrap material for hardening. Love your videos, BTW.
It's just Tremclad...a very basic paint here in Canada. It sold in all hardware store here! I darken it, using black Tremclad! I did like 1/3 black and 2/3 silver!
You could have used the soft plate as a face plate and bored it to be an interference fit to hold the outer diameter of the bearing race while you machined the inner diameter. It would be round then. You could have heated the race evenly in a wood fire to get it to the hardening temperature and done the same to temper it. So your ingenuity is not as good you think. But the outcome was much better than it was, so well done. Remember the heating trick, you don't need to spend money on a furnace after all! A very entertaining video. 😂😂😂
Good job! No one like you can make this more entertaining then you....its really interesting that it hasnt made sounds before, I mean you have put this Masy to his/her test.....ok the backhoe , could it maybe been helping to NOT make the sound you had in the beginning of the film...? Question.... hardening steel at home, does it have to be a special kind of steel, or can you hardening any kind? And does not hardening marke it more britall? And can you use any oil, I got at home....? Really nice job, and love to see you films, always the first Im starting to watch at then you realized the new! Take care!
Tony, you need high carbon steel, if you want to have hardened steel. Yes, pretty ,much all oils will work, some may more toxic then others! You should check youtube videos about the subject to get more details!
😎👍😎 Wow.. Ive watched many youtube videos of various repairs ...first time ive seen someone make a race..in their garage..as well as a seal.. Way to go ..👍👍👍
That was a lot of "Quack"s during the spindle reassembly! Wonderful work on your Massey. I'm working on a 1455 that was given up for dead by the educational farm I volunteer at.
@VinyB57 the maintenance crew that had possession beat her to hell. I'm redoing the clutch, then I need to straighten the engine covers and find a new front cover. They ran the tires nearly bare, with one off the rim! Oh, and to make things fun they threw the keys away when they pushed her into the junk pile. Now she's under the education/farm inventory, so she will be ok.
@VinyB57 I may have one that I haven't used in forever if you are interested. Not much use for the big one as I have a smaller one and CNC on my Bridgeport.
Use the mystery steel to make a set of dies to press a new outer race for that large diameter bearing. Probably have to do it in 3 steps to slowly crunch a piece of 4140 sheet into shape.
Just found your channel and this is the first video I have watched. You got a thumbs up and a new subscriber. Your video is informative and very entertaining. Keep up the good work.
Link to website and plans: 57design.ca/
Was this a massy 205-4 ?
Don't use gloves with rotary equipment
Consider a 6-jaw chuck for similar operations.
@@wandahelmer1038 210-4
Repaired without a single piece of baler twine in sight. This guys good,very good
HAHAHA! 🤣...There's at least 20 nails on that thing, but no baler twine so far!
OH MY GOD IT's JASON BOURNE
Great video Viny! I was a machinist for SKF USA until they relocated to India. The raceway (SKF called it a "cup") you were trying to make is a difficult part to craft at home. At the factory we used a magnetic chuck and cup shoes at the 6 and 3 o'clock positions to hold the cup centered in place during the grinding process. The process is to first make the cup larger than the finished product by around +.030 to +.060 (+.75 to +1.5mm) then heat treat the rough oversized "green cup". After the heat treat process, the cup is then finish ground to size with a stone (while using coolant). We used Cincinnati Milicron grinding equipment that held the cup in place with a magnetic chuck. You could substitute a finish grinder in place of your lathe tool holder and if you can work out a magnetic chuck for your lathe driver with steadying shoes at the 6 and 3 o'clock positions, welcome to the bearing manufacture business. I realize you're probably not going to make this exact size cup again but the same process applies with all bearing cups. I know you can do it, understanding the process is the key.
Fascinating. Thank you for the detailed reply!
that or finish machining after heat treating, skinny big diameter pats are a pain if you want minimum distortion you gotta flip them bunch of times before machine them to size
kentucky fried MVP, thank you for sharing
Fellow Canadian / Machine shop owner here - Really nice job! Even though that race gave you hell, the ability to make a part like that never gets old!
Thank you fellow Canadian / Machine shop owner! 😉
how can i get my own canadian? i want to own one too
@@thatwierdbilly3076 🤣🤣
I earn a living as a tractor mechanic. I laughed, cried and puked while watching this. I'll be back tomorrow for more.
It's always so nice to see an old good, good old tractor being restored for yourself. It's almost like new. 😊
Almost-iiishh...😬
Farking hilarious!!! I really felt the mismatched inner shafts
I did too! 😅😉🤦♂️
@@VinyB57 in your back i bet!! ive got one (back) out right now myself and been there and done that mistake before too
Awesome job!
Recreating worn out steering bearing races seems crazy hard, but you got it back in service without factory parts.
That’s hero stuff.
That’s a big win. keep your eye out for another bearing race.
Somewhere out there, on a shelf in a dusty box with the label worn off is pair of rebuild kits, bearings, races, gaskets and seals.
The biggest changes in my lifetime is the internet and information sharing, so keep a list of part### , it’s out there somewhere.
Great TH-cam channel!
Paul from Ontario here... I love the video, great repair... I am working on IH 434 here... When I am forced to machine thin unhappy parts like that, I have been known to hose clamp a die grinder or even a 4 inch electric grinder right to the tool holder, then grind the parts... Way less pressure on the parts and chuck teeth... I might have even been seen gluing or spot welding parts to a heavier base to clamp. Or even, heaven forbid right to the chuck... I am an outside the box thinker... I don't like it when parts come out to try to get me lol... Cheers... You seem like a cool guy to hang out with :)
Hey thanks Paul for your suggestions! My mindset was not at it's best this afternoon of machining, and thinking of smarter/safer ways to make it was not my priority, unfortunately! 🤦♂️I'll do it better next time!
@@VinyB57 Kinda makes a guy wonder how they made them in the first place? :) One piece like you did, or rolled and welded or maybe stamped or maybe even powder pressed? IDK?
@@paulpedersen6904 I've seen parts like that made from thicker sheet metal heated and conformed in a many ton press and die to "rough shape", then the inside is ground to surface, the rest then cut off, and ces't viola!, a new part. IDK if part of Viny's parts problem is where he is- most bearings are in standard sizes, if for no other reason than the sheer cost to have a proprietary line done for them.
Also, a trick for the arsenal... the Liquid JB Weld will affix very firmly, but becomes a fluid again and turns loose at about 6 or 700 degrees Fahrenheit, easily achievable with propane or a mapp gas torch and PROBABLY without affecting your heat treat TOO much. So you could always affix the workpiece to something more skookum with the JB, machine it, then separate the two with the plumber's torch.
I'm told you can do the same thing with super glue but... spinning schtuff held together with superglue in a lathe a foot form my face makes my tail all bushy.
The original source of this wisdom came to me from an old guy that had a bulldozer with a live PTO shaft coming out the back of the transmission. It wasn't a spud, it was machined right onto one of the main shafts of the trans. It was hardcore, double-secret unobtainium, would have required completely disassembling the crawler and THEN completely tearing down the transmission, and that just wasn't going to happen. The whole thing was on the brown side of ripe, and disturbing the factory assembly to such an extent would just result in a whole lot of deferred maintenance. But the splines were clapped on the PTO shaft, and it would keep throwing the PTO driveline for whatever implement they were using.
Now, they only used this machine occasionally, and only with two implements, and they used one for half the year and the other for the other half. So they drove the coupling pin out of the yoke for the implement shaft, stuffed it in place on the PTO output shaft, mixed up a batch of liquid JB weld nice and runny, poured it in the hole and let it run around the splines and set up cock stiff. They'd run the implement half the year, swap it out for the other one, warm up the coupler with a torch, and it would slide right off and they'd swap to the other implement shaft, lather, rinse, and repeat. He assured me they'd been doing this for years with no problems.
Might solve a tricky fixturing issue at some point in the future. Cheers!
@@paulpedersen6904 I'd say stamped for sure.
Love your channel Viny! This video was especially fun.
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Great video as always. A note on cleaning, as I do a lot of assy/disassy of heavy equipment (loaders, graders, fork lifts)... get a rubbermaid storage tub and pour a gallon of diesel in it. Don't clean parts as you disect assemblies... put whole assembly in the tub and clean your parts as you go. It helps keep your work space much cleaner and the filth is contained.
Someone who actually fixes. Perfect.
The humor side of these videos always cracks me up. Got a good friend and his wife up in Winnipeg. Were going up there next year. LOL May just stay there.
That was painful. Love the patients to fix it. Put a new tractor on the wish list. It only took me 30 years to get my new tractor, only wish i had it sooner. Love your channel and joking around. Keep up the good work.
Hope it wasn't too painful to watch! 😉 I kinda like my old MF... in a few years she will be the best looking thing around the neighborhood...😅 (if I exclude my wife! )
Wow! Wire-brushing with a drill while turning on a lathe has to be the definition of multi-tasking! Well done on the DIY! 🎉
one of the most interesting and entertaining repair videos ive seen in a quite a while....it earned a new subscriber
Wow!!..That was a lot of work!!!..Really great seeing you fabricate the parts you need..I just purchased an old Atlas lathe and I believe the learning curve is a little steep but I will get there..-John
Love lathing...if that's a verb! 😅 Once you start making precise parts, you'll be hooked! So keep up mate!
@@VinyB57 I absolutely believe you!!..Thank you for answering me..-John
Oh my lord, this looks just like the tractor my grandfather sold a few years ago, albeit his was heavily modified after MANY YEARS of daily use. What made him sell it in the end? He was getting too old to keep up with it, and parts were impossible to get, especially where we live(so we had to weld and make our own parts). They truly dont make them like they used to.
thanks for the video
Thanks for the comment mate!
Vinny I love your videos and hope to use some of what you have learned and taught on the channel to fix up my truck and a few other things I want to get running again👍
I've never watched one of tour videos before. Loved it. Good job!
Vinny is my spirit animal I swear…..😂😂😂. Heck of an effort. I’m actually shocked and impressed you were able to make a lot of the parts you made in your own shop.
Glad I'm spirit animal! 😁 Am I like an otter or something?!
I’m in Vancouver, else I’d come by with a case of a Molson to celebrate a terrific job, one that the patron Saint of all Canadian men, Red Green, would certainly approve in both quality and execution!
Hey thanks mate! ok for the Molson ! It's been a while since I had one tho!
Patron saint That's good...
J ai vraiment beaucoup ri, tu a beaucoup de patience. Felicitations pour la reparation 👍
Hey un gros merci dang! 👌
What a great job and vid. Your honesty in the fact that there is no such thing as a 5min job is very refreshing. Thanks for sharing.
Greetings from Australia - great work revitalising this ancient beast. Great video!! :)
You, sir, get both a like and a comment, you deserve it!
thanks mate! 👍
Great video
Learned hot metal looses magnetic attraction
But it is gaining it back as soon as it's cooling down!
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Some day please do a laymen’s version on aneling hardening steel, please include mild steel and hard stuff like input shaft
I like it. Very resourceful. Have to do that when you want to keep the old iron alive instead of falling into that pit of having to buy new stuff that doesn’t last. Kinda the same boat we are in with the ‘83 Case 1490 (rebadged David Brown,) most stuff is either unavailable, crazy expensive or only readily found in Europe where DBs are all over.
Randomly popped up in my feed, thoroughly enjoyed this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great stuff, as usual!!
Thanks Sten!
Well done Viny. Love your work. (And so funny too)
Thank you, very kind!
I stumbled onto this video via the algorithm. This is a very interesting and entertaining video. Thanks for making it!
Hey thanks for your comment mate!
Love your content viny! Please keep it coming!!!
The sounds you make when things go wrong... You're my spirit animal 22:20
🤣🤣 Glad I am! 🤣🤣
Watching your frustration, I am happy that my '67 Massey Fergusson 135 is not 4wd. Merci beaucoup monsieur.
I watch TH-cam vids for entertainment and information, your video gave me plenty of entertainment. I will watch for more of your videos. Also, I to am a Canadian. Thanks for sharing
Hey! glad you got entertained my fellow canadian friend! There's a few more vids available! But start with the newest stuff...the younger, the better...a mean...you got it, right? 🤦♂️
The legendary tale of the super bent lace 🤣!men your story telling tallent is on point
Enjoyed the creation of 'good enough' parts.
A wonderful cross between entertaining and instructive. Thanks
I have to say that is about the toughest part I've ever seen anyone successfully make to repair a piece of equipment. Getting that steel bearing race part fabricated, hardened, and installed without specalized tools and equipment took this to a whole different level. Skill, ingenuiety, and sheer willpower to get the job done that you displayed makes me applaud you. I commend you to the highest level, you are a different kind of man, a type not often seen today, quite rare indeed. Thank you for posting this record of your work.
No! Thank YOU for such a kind comment! Glad you recognized the hard work that went into fixing this old girl!
Nice work!
Thank you! Cheers!
Viny you're the engineer here and you're the one who has an idea of what he's doing but, wouldn't have been better to make 3D printed dimple dies for the bearing race and given it shape with a press???
I wouldn't do 3D printed dies, cause it needs to be at 90° and would required a sh!t ton of force to forme...but I think, you're right, they must have used that process to manufacture those races...I never though about dimple dies...good idea mate! 👌
@VinyB57 tbh 3D printed dies made of nyloncf or petg filaments could be fairly strong, I suggest looking into it for future projects, but I suppose it's a simple enough shape that you could've made the dimple on the laith
Excellent work as always! I can't wait to see more restoration work done to this tractor
@@VinyB57 Tack weld that race to a face plate once it got too thin to be safe. Great video!
Hard way makes it more valuable
@@VinyB57 am i right?
You have some of the most enjoyable mechanical videos I have ever seen on the 'tubes. Amazing job. We have a similar Masey parked in the woods here near our farm shop that was parked 30+ years ago because of similar issues. Parts you can no longer get. I occasionally will search Ebay for parts, and I do get lucky sometimes. Eventually I will have enough parts to get it put back together. I just don't have the patience or tooling needed to make my own parts like you do.
Thanks for your comment mate! Good luck with your rebuild!
I have been subbed, always like and often add my 2 cents here in the comment section.
You are making this tractor be ready for another 40 years, well, at least 20 🙂
Thanks VinyB 👍💪✌
Big thanks! Can we start with 10 years...not sure the engine will live that long! 😅
@@VinyB57 10 years are good enough 🙂
And after 20 it's sold for scrap and ends up being rebuilt in the Punjab to last another 50 years.
I do apprécie a good dose of humour in the soirée! Great vid. :D
Glad you liked it!
I truly admire your patience! 😁
Thanks Martin!
Or is it Martine...sorry..I'm confuse! 😅
@@VinyB57 Haha, you got it right the first time, it's Martin. :)
That is the most heroic repair i have ever seen!
Phil, UK
thaks Phil! Viny CA
Just discovered this channel... I am all in!
Glad you are! 🤙
One thought on heating up the bearing race, you could try a makeshift oven by heating it up with the torch and surrounding it with fire bricks, maybe it could contain enough heat to get it up to temp
Fantastic work as always and another great video dude!
Thanks dude! 🤙
Love your work!
You know what will happen in another 40 years' time... some TH-camr (or the equivalent) will dismantle that hub and marvel at the repairs... perhaps not in a sympathetic way!!
But you can only do the best with what you have, and I think that is exactly what you've done. Well done!
🤣 I hope I'll be this old and tire TH-camr, who already forgot who made that part and keeps commenting in a ''sympathetic way''! 🤣
@@VinyB57 Very old and sipping apple brandy on that porch you built!
I liked the video and the fun you had LOL
Great job, I love to make old things new again.
Me too, it's way more rewarding!
Vraiment du beau travail! Sérieux j’ai adoré ton vidéo! Ça fesait très drôle d’écouter en anglais avec un accent connu😂Mais ma partie préférée c’est les sacres 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks , I have already watched all your tractor videos and look forward to more
My first tractors were roper garden tractors but built my own loader and backhoe for them
Planning on swapping them over to the massey
First video i have seen. Subbed after a few minutes. Love the project and love the accent!
Awesome! I hope you enjoy the rest of my vids! 😉
great job and excellent entertainment
I enjoyed that. Nice work!
Cheers mate! Glad you liked it!
Excellent!
You are incredibly skilled and enjoyable to watch. 😂
Thanks David, glad you liked it!
That beautiful welding table came in clutch, great video…as usual!!!
You have no idea...best tool ever!
Buying larger ball bearings to fill a bigger gap is a good idea, might use that one day
I would be very interested to see how the 3d-printed seal holds up in the long term. I think it has a fighting chance in the low speed, short action environment though.
It will be good, it's not going to do 100k miles or 100mph in Viny's yard.
Oh yeah, I'm sure it will be just fine! If it wasn't for the time it takes to re-assembled the spindel with the yoke, printing a new one and changing it would be super easy!
Awesome video man! Love watching these! Always a good laugh!
thanks Josh for you good comments, that helps greatly the channel! 👍
Incredible Viny!
that was fantastic,
thanks mate!
Once again, you have absolutely amazed me, Mr. B, and your French Canadian accent and corny jokes are part of what has endeared me to you and your adventures. By the way, did you ever get heat in your shop? Thanks for sharing with us Viny, I certainly enjoyed it!
Hey big thanks! No heat yet in the shop!! I like it cold I guess! 🤷♂️
Hi Viny, You are absolutely right this video deserved a subscription, So I did, Keep up the good work.Gord ,Ontario .
Thanks Gord!
WOW! I am impressed with your efforts.
Je suis content que vos vidéos aient été diffusées sur ma suggestion. Je peux tout à fait comprendre vos frustrations. Et comprendre vos frustrations dans plus d'une langue était extrêmement pertinent. Restez au chaud cet hiver, mon ami. J'essaierai de faire la même chose dans la neige de SLC, Utah.
So if you're from Utah, you must speak english...so is it a translate comment or do you really speak french?
@@VinyB57 Option C : Brésil. J'ai grandi aux États-Unis. Mon père est français. Depois de um certo tempo, todos os idiomas baseados em latin se misturam. Abraços.
Great work sir!
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Get some refractory bricks for sitting parts on to hear treat, they're pretty cheap and won't suck heat.
In lieu of plate you can use a high carbon square baror round and roll into a circle, leave a good overlap and forge weld or weld the ends together with an equivalent filler. You can get a lot more material varieties on round than plate form and much cheaper.
Top class content, fantastic
Glad you enjoyed it!
too bad shipping would be hella expensive, but I think all those parts are available in Argentina, lots of Massey Fergusson tractors and combines, and therefore lots of repair parts. And since we are used to keep everything even when farms and manufacturers move to new equipment, part stores usually keep the repair parts from when they opened for business
This is a pro in action watch and learn!
Oh thank you..I'm doing my best, without spending too much!
Front end loader and a backhoe is asking for major trouble with those compact tractors. When we were a farm tractor salvage yard, we would sell the front end parts almost as soon as we got the tractors in. We've even sold 2wd conversion kits for these MF, and Deutz-Allis tractors. Eventually my dad was able to find a bearing manufacturer so we could sell new bearings for these, but that was years ago and we stopped being a salvage yard 5 years ago.
Next time you machine something like the bearing race, the last matching operation should be to separate the race from the excess material. You want to use a surface where a large tolerance does not affect the fit or function of the part. You may even do the separation after the heat treat. Also try using an insulating surface on top of your metal table when heating up your part, like some thin cement board. This way you will get less heat transfer out of your part.
If you have to make another bearing race in the future. Finish your bearing services to specks, leaving the outside a little bit of extra material like a T shape. Print out a hard plastic plug for the bearing side that is pressed in place. Then chuck it in the 4 jaw. Take a grinder and bring the outside to specks. It shouldn't become warped as easily, and you can clamp to scrap material for hardening. Love your videos, BTW.
Awesome job!! Enjoyed the video!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Say, can you drop a link to the [silver] paint you used on them [restored] arms? Thanks 😊
It's just Tremclad...a very basic paint here in Canada. It sold in all hardware store here! I darken it, using black Tremclad! I did like 1/3 black and 2/3 silver!
@@VinyB57 => great 👍 thanks 😊
You could have used the soft plate as a face plate and bored it to be an interference fit to hold the outer diameter of the bearing race while you machined the inner diameter. It would be round then. You could have heated the race evenly in a wood fire to get it to the hardening temperature and done the same to temper it. So your ingenuity is not as good you think. But the outcome was much better than it was, so well done. Remember the heating trick, you don't need to spend money on a furnace after all! A very entertaining video. 😂😂😂
Well done mon ami !
Good job! No one like you can make this more entertaining then you....its really interesting that it hasnt made sounds before, I mean you have put this Masy to his/her test.....ok the backhoe , could it maybe been helping to NOT make the sound you had in the beginning of the film...?
Question.... hardening steel at home, does it have to be a special kind of steel, or can you hardening any kind? And does not hardening marke it more britall? And can you use any oil, I got at home....?
Really nice job, and love to see you films, always the first Im starting to watch at then you realized the new! Take care!
Tony, you need high carbon steel, if you want to have hardened steel. Yes, pretty ,much all oils will work, some may more toxic then others! You should check youtube videos about the subject to get more details!
Viny very interesting seal material how about a 100 hour update on seal and bearing integrity?
I'll be glad to do it...only if the spindel was not such a F*&?$%er to put in! 😅
excellent video
Glad you liked it!
A big hello from Nova Scotia , just purchased a MF 1010 and just found your channel
Oh Nice, a little 1010! I spotted one yesterday on marketplace, these are great tractors! Would love to have one with my 210-4!
😎👍😎
Wow..
Ive watched many youtube videos of various repairs ...first time ive seen someone make a race..in their garage..as well as a seal..
Way to go ..👍👍👍
Thanks Jerry!
Es tie what a job!! Nice work!!
Merci, merci! 🙏
Cool vid, Vinny! Great repair! Awesome channel
Thank you, appreciate it!
That was a lot of "Quack"s during the spindle reassembly! Wonderful work on your Massey. I'm working on a 1455 that was given up for dead by the educational farm I volunteer at.
1455 nice! That's a bigger beast then mine! Hope she's not in a too bad of a shape! 😉
@VinyB57 the maintenance crew that had possession beat her to hell. I'm redoing the clutch, then I need to straighten the engine covers and find a new front cover. They ran the tires nearly bare, with one off the rim! Oh, and to make things fun they threw the keys away when they pushed her into the junk pile. Now she's under the education/farm inventory, so she will be ok.
@@retirednavychief6983 Wtf! 🫥 It's the first time, I think my 210-4 is in better shape then someone else's tractor! 😅
I appreciate the calibrated elbow torque wrench.
A node to AVE. Focus yah fahk!! Love it.
Great video, thank you.
Great video Viny!
The swear compilation was great 😂
Do you have a rotary table for your mill? Could you have tried milling it?
unfortunately, I don't a rotary table yet! I'll get one, one day for sure! I though using my boring head...but it's a too large of diameter for it!
@VinyB57 I may have one that I haven't used in forever if you are interested. Not much use for the big one as I have a smaller one and CNC on my Bridgeport.
Use the mystery steel to make a set of dies to press a new outer race for that large diameter bearing. Probably have to do it in 3 steps to slowly crunch a piece of 4140 sheet into shape.
Just found your channel and this is the first video I have watched. You got a thumbs up and a new subscriber. Your video is informative and very entertaining. Keep up the good work.
Thanks mate, glad you subbed! 🤙
Very cool.
That tractor looks super useful.
It is disgraceful that MF doesn't support it with parts.
Glad you could get it going again.
It's really super useful! Love this thing! MF never built the thing in ht e first place, it's rebadged Hinomoto E23!
Good job. I grew up using a Massey Ferguson 230, fine fine tractor.
I have the same tractor. We pay attention to the proper torque on the front pivot joints.