I think I'm the type of person who can read the same storyline over and over again with different characters and still love every minute of it! I loved this series so much, more the later books, (book 1 got confusing), but I never really hate hearing the same troupes and storylines, I love it
Ooooo so excited to talk to other people who've read the Ravenel Series! What I liked about them is that they followed tropes to the point of ridiculous, so I was less bothered by the out of touch reality. Cold Hearted Rake had me absolutely tee-heeing, Marrying Winterbourne reminded me of The Paradise. I remember looking forward Pandora's and Gabriel's novel, which I enjoyed, but it did seem that she wasn't following through on the characters she had created. I was so disappointed in Cassandra and Tom's story - it was more about self discovery for Tom. It did have nice fluff at the end, though I agree it falls weirdly flat as a series finale. Who could possibly be left? Unless they grow up dear little Carys :P
The Hathaways series by her is really good!! It's another one that kind of spins off the Wallflowers series, but it's executed better. I've read most of her backlist (except the Vallerands and a few standalone) and its all pretty good. I think my problem with the Ravenels is that she's started to recycle her characters and situations, so for someone who has read a lot of her work everything feels kind of stagnant and forced. It's still pretty good, but just not as good.
The next one comes out in July 2021. You were a bit harsh in your critique but I'd agree that these aren't Lisa's best books. I think they are still good though. I never had to force myself to get through them or quit reading one though.
I started the first of this series but didn’t continue because I wasn’t feeling hooked. My favourite LK series is her wallflower quartet but I really recommend her Hathaway series too if you haven’t read it.
I just read a Cold Hearted Rake and what you said about their romance taking a step back I felt that!! It started off so strong and then I felt like it was really dragging because we kept going to Helen 🤐 I'm glad the third book was better though
I have completed the wallflower series and I loved them.now I have started the revenel series.i loved devil in spring and devil's daughter and completely agree with you on the comments of marrying winterborne.
Hi Lisa! Thank you for this video! I love LK but I DNFed Cold Hearted Rake and Marrying Winterborne. I was just bored and couldn’t get into the characters. I didn’t believe their chemistry and I just didn’t care, so I haven’t continued on with the series. However, please read the Hathaways series!!! It’s amazing and my favorIte LK series!! I think you’d really enjoy it if you love LK!
Lisa I appreciate your commentary about Lisa kleypas all her books are great my favorite is dreaming of you. Please try to do a comments to the generation of the first books in the 70 and 80. I acknowledged that there a controversy but there so good and unfortunately those stories are great and readers does not appreciate their content. Thanks 🙏 from new jersey
I came across a new author on amazon by the name "Mary Selseleh" . You go through a series of different emotions reading her books. I couldn't put the books down for days. Suer engaging and just different if you´re in for a new adventure.
I‘ve read the full series this year, and it was my introduction to Kleypas. I enjoyed it overall and didn‘t mind that the first book contained two storylines, but it did drag out the second book for me, when it didn‘t follow the same structure and didn‘t introduce the third book. I have since started reading the Wallflower series, and what I will say is that, compared to the Ravenel series, I have found it to be more questionable in terms of consent. I understand that the Wallflowers were published earlier, but having to take that step back is a little annoying, especially when you have an example of how it could play out instead.
@@FeministFashionistaK It’s been a little while since reading them but here’s a few things I remember: *spoilers incoming* 1. The first time the characters in the second book are intimate, Lilian is heavily intoxicated, so cannot technically give consent. 2. Sebastian abducts her, threatens rape... and then gets let off the hook fairly easily in the following book, for it was but “a joke”, of course, can’t you see, Lilian? And yet, he never once directly apologises to her. 3. If I remember correctly, when Sebastian recovers from his fever, Evie initiates sex and he explicitly says ‘No’, which she disregards. I think Kleypas shows Sebastian’s POV as an attempt to legitimise Evie’s actions, but that is not how consent works. Hope that answers your question in parts 🌻
I wasn’t a huge fan of the Ravenels series, except the Devil’s Daughter. All the other guys just felt the same. The Wallflowers series is my fav, esp the first and third
I read them out of order. And really enjoyed it. I read 5, 2,3,4,6,1. I thought they held up as stand alone novels, and I hated the first book. I thought the guy was emotionally abusive, so it almost ruins the other books for me.
I would say yes because it gets confusing when all the characters keep showing up. And there are events that are set up in the previous book to make the next book happen
Please review the Hathaways! Thumbs up from people who want it! 🤩
Oh I love those....🥰😭
Wallflowers is the best Kleypas series, but my favorite single book of hers is Dreaming of You.
I think I'm the type of person who can read the same storyline over and over again with different characters and still love every minute of it! I loved this series so much, more the later books, (book 1 got confusing), but I never really hate hearing the same troupes and storylines, I love it
None of my Kleypas books have stepbacks now cause I always had to rip them out so my parents didn't know what I was reading!! Love this video heh
BUAHAHA so smart! Thanks for watching!!!
lol........so sad, the stepbacks are so beautiful
Ooooo so excited to talk to other people who've read the Ravenel Series! What I liked about them is that they followed tropes to the point of ridiculous, so I was less bothered by the out of touch reality. Cold Hearted Rake had me absolutely tee-heeing, Marrying Winterbourne reminded me of The Paradise. I remember looking forward Pandora's and Gabriel's novel, which I enjoyed, but it did seem that she wasn't following through on the characters she had created. I was so disappointed in Cassandra and Tom's story - it was more about self discovery for Tom. It did have nice fluff at the end, though I agree it falls weirdly flat as a series finale. Who could possibly be left? Unless they grow up dear little Carys :P
“Because he has 5 emotions” lol
LMFAO I KNOW I WAS LIKE COME ON TOM .....
I absolutely love Lisa Kleypas!!
I forced myself to finish CHR. Then i came here to see what I could skip. I'm going to read Cassandra's book
I think the black and white dress for “Hello Stranger” is a play on her being a doctor 🥼
The Hathaways series by her is really good!! It's another one that kind of spins off the Wallflowers series, but it's executed better. I've read most of her backlist (except the Vallerands and a few standalone) and its all pretty good. I think my problem with the Ravenels is that she's started to recycle her characters and situations, so for someone who has read a lot of her work everything feels kind of stagnant and forced. It's still pretty good, but just not as good.
The next one comes out in July 2021. You were a bit harsh in your critique but I'd agree that these aren't Lisa's best books. I think they are still good though. I never had to force myself to get through them or quit reading one though.
I started the first of this series but didn’t continue because I wasn’t feeling hooked. My favourite LK series is her wallflower quartet but I really recommend her Hathaway series too if you haven’t read it.
I just read a Cold Hearted Rake and what you said about their romance taking a step back I felt that!! It started off so strong and then I felt like it was really dragging because we kept going to Helen 🤐 I'm glad the third book was better though
Where did you buy this new reprint with the stepback? I saw them on Amazon but I can’t understand if they have the stepbacks or not
I have completed the wallflower series and I loved them.now I have started the revenel series.i loved devil in spring and devil's daughter and completely agree with you on the comments of marrying winterborne.
Hi Lisa! Thank you for this video! I love LK but I DNFed Cold Hearted Rake and Marrying Winterborne. I was just bored and couldn’t get into the characters. I didn’t believe their chemistry and I just didn’t care, so I haven’t continued on with the series. However, please read the Hathaways series!!! It’s amazing and my favorIte LK series!! I think you’d really enjoy it if you love LK!
Quinn IS my all time fave. The bridgertons!!
I should finish that series!!!
Lisa I appreciate your commentary about Lisa kleypas all her books are great my favorite is dreaming of you. Please try to do a comments to the generation of the first books in the 70 and 80. I acknowledged that there a controversy but there so good and unfortunately those stories are great and readers does not appreciate their content. Thanks 🙏 from new jersey
Thank you for supporting Judith ❤️❤️❤️❤️😭😭😭 your comments make me smile
The part where you talked about just collecting her books is too relatable 😂
I came across a new author on amazon by the name "Mary Selseleh" . You go through a series of different emotions reading her books. I couldn't put the books down for days. Suer engaging and just different if you´re in for a new adventure.
I can tell you were confused, because I'm confused, lol. I'm not a big fan of LK which ones are your favorites? I like The Gamblers of Craven's
I think my favourite would still have to be devil in winter but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if i went back and reread it and didn't like it...
I‘ve read the full series this year, and it was my introduction to Kleypas. I enjoyed it overall and didn‘t mind that the first book contained two storylines, but it did drag out the second book for me, when it didn‘t follow the same structure and didn‘t introduce the third book.
I have since started reading the Wallflower series, and what I will say is that, compared to the Ravenel series, I have found it to be more questionable in terms of consent. I understand that the Wallflowers were published earlier, but having to take that step back is a little annoying, especially when you have an example of how it could play out instead.
What issues of consent in Wallflowers? That's my all time favorite series and I've never noticed anything...
@@FeministFashionistaK It’s been a little while since reading them but here’s a few things I remember:
*spoilers incoming*
1. The first time the characters in the second book are intimate, Lilian is heavily intoxicated, so cannot technically give consent.
2. Sebastian abducts her, threatens rape... and then gets let off the hook fairly easily in the following book, for it was but “a joke”, of course, can’t you see, Lilian? And yet, he never once directly apologises to her.
3. If I remember correctly, when Sebastian recovers from his fever, Evie initiates sex and he explicitly says ‘No’, which she disregards. I think Kleypas shows Sebastian’s POV as an attempt to legitimise Evie’s actions, but that is not how consent works.
Hope that answers your question in parts 🌻
Oooo I just got the first book in this series!
I love a good smut book lol
I wasn’t a huge fan of the Ravenels series, except the Devil’s Daughter. All the other guys just felt the same.
The Wallflowers series is my fav, esp the first and third
I read them out of order. And really enjoyed it. I read 5, 2,3,4,6,1. I thought they held up as stand alone novels, and I hated the first book. I thought the guy was emotionally abusive, so it almost ruins the other books for me.
I liked them.
Do you have to read them in order?
I would say yes because it gets confusing when all the characters keep showing up. And there are events that are set up in the previous book to make the next book happen
@@remarkablylisa thank you 😁
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HAHAHA a lot of people did in my other videos!!
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