Andreas Preuninger has become a legend similar to Mercedes' long-time S-Class boss Dr. Storp - and that's saying something. He has now been director of the GT class for 23 years - Dr. Storp was director for 'only' 12 years.
As usual, an awesome addition to the product line. And also as usual, in the US you will only be able to get one if you are an original 918 buyer, or if you're lucky enough to get an allocation and are willing pay at least $100K over list price. That's the current world of buying Porsche GT models.
Yeah exactly the problem with Porsche nowadays and why I won't buy a new model from them. People like myself who would buy this car and daily it aren't allowed to buy it anyway
But the rs is priced at $100,000 more than a touring and it is essentially the same car except without rear wheel steering which oddly is now a positive? Porsche is genius - charging for options they won’t let you have on a car.
This man knows the mass of every nut and bolt of this automobile. I can't imagine the countless hours he and his team poured into developing this masterpiece.
It's a beautiful machine. And the timing is amazing - 60th anniversary and probably the final 992.1 model (unless there is a new GT2RS coming.....haven't heard peep about that though).
1380kg kerb weight, isn't this roughly the same as the 997 gen GT3 RS? That's impressive given that the ST is 25% bigger, more powerful and way faster. Congrats, what a car! Wish BMW had bothered doing the same effort for their ///M birthday...
What a weapon, fantastic package Andres, thanks! Especially the original Porsche crest. I doubt that my local will give me an allocation of the 1963, probably only for people to garage.
Say this an awful lot on socials, TH-cam and online but I really wish there were more real world based car performance reviews. Of course they don’t or wouldn’t suit every category of car out there but for example someone thinking of swapping from say a BMW 530d to an M3 no reviewer on TH-cam really gives you that level of performance based review that it makes you think ‘right I’m off to the dealership’. 0-60s, demonstrated launch control, 1/4 miles, drag races with very similar cars, footage of a car on the road with seemingly nothing else there. They aren’t really what people want to see when deciding on a road car. They’re fun don’t get me wrong. I love to see drag races but everyone does them and they’re not really ‘real world’ demonstrations. In the real world you want to know if a car can comfortably overtake on a backroad with a 2-3 car backup in front of you, whether you can put your foot down on the motorway when John in his 58 reg A6 gets right up your arse and you don’t particularly want to have to shift across, just how much you can embarrass the local chavs in their Mountune Fiest ST when they try and go past you on a twisty road. Situations like those are what it would be really fun and good to see from a car review on TH-cam. Or even just drag race something like an RS3 against a bunch of cars you’re likely to see ‘road wankers’ driving that think they’re king eg 56 reg 320d, any Fiesta ST, 58 reg Range Rover Sports, Jaguar XF…… etc. if you’re thinking about splashing £60-70k+ on something, having a reviewer on TH-cam give you a bit of ‘feel good’ about higher performance road cars by demonstrating more real world scenarios it would go down a treat with a lot of folks on TH-cam imo.
Its cool, but not a $100k-dollar-premium-over-the-GT3-touring cool. Realistically, you can replace the stock GT3 wheels with aftermarket carbon fiber wheels, and that alone will account for probably 25% of the weight reduction of the ST.
you are correct. What you don't get is the RS engine updates, shorter gearing, carbon panels, the S/T interior and the special damper calibration(on the TG video, Andreas insisted on special damper calibration in order for the car to work better as road car... so, what I understand from that is something similar with what honda did with type-r vs acura type-s damper calibration). I do not believe one second that all of those changes make up for 100k but, there's the limited edition thing and also, most probably, this is the last pure gt3(no turbo, no electric, no nothing) so, yeah, there's that as well m
Why is it now a good change to have eliminated the rear wheel steering? On other models they charge extra for the rear wheel steering yet on this Car they are charging a $150,000 extra for removing the rear wheel steering? So how is it better to not have rws? Wait- they put on an old version of a hood logo? Well that is worth $50,000 extra… and they perforated the headliner? What is that worth? $1,000 extra? On the black one no deviated stitching? A bunch of cosmetic stuff- for hundreds of thousands extra? Almost two thousand cars does not make it all that rare. The low weight fly wheel wil make u It harder to shift easily. Lower weight flywheel is cheaper than to make isn’t it? This makes the old 992 GT3 look like a real bargain!
The "S/T". I'm guessing it's naturally aspirated as no TT was mentioned. But, as a car celebrating 60 years i would have expected something more "outstanding". That spparates this 911 from allt he others...this is just a minor tweak of a GT3 Trouring...which I think is still the better car and the one i'd choose. It keeps "rear wheel steering" (essential in city driving) and it has sound isolation you 'd want in an "everyday driver". Or a car you might want to drive more than once a week on a Sunday mornig. I would have lliked to have seen Porsche introuce a more "affordable" naturally aspirated e.g. Carrera S as the 60th Anniversary model. A car that has the "essential" characteristics of a 911 with only tech and preformance we actually need. Odd there is no "affordable 911 nat-aspir car" yet....for people who want a naturally aspirated car as their first 911...possibly their only 911 (I hear you need to have owned or bought 4 911's to be allowed to order a GT3 Touring/RS/STd..so wrong....i thought Porsche wants to sell cars :))
Love Porsche, have owned a few. Why are there so many videos covering these unobtanium GT models? For the average Porsche or sports car buyer, these cars simply aren’t available. Every person who is given an allocation will either park them in a garage for a decade to sell them for double the price, or sell them in a year or two and drive them for free plus make some bonus money. The rest of us look at them and go “cool car, looks like a dream spec” but it’s not even a consideration, so why hype them up so much? Everyone will be pre-sold to preferred Porsche return customers at a healthy dealer mark up. So we can then stare at one at a cars and coffee event or Porsche gathering and wonder what it might be like to drive or own one? I’m not bitter, i just don’t care, and why does anyone else who can’t afford or get an allocation for one even bother to watch these videos?
I can afford this car and I still won’t get an allocation, so I totally hear you. Give it a little bit of time Porsche GT prices will start to fall, and the selling model for Porsche will have to be amended The only caveat that can ruin my prediction is if they go full electric on a 911, which will undoubtedly raise the price and the desirability of the ICE 911s
Another car for TH-camrs to show off or wealthy collectors to hide in a garage. Nothing for the bread and butter Porsche client, if something like that even exists. Don't get me wrong: it's great Porsche keeps developing stuff like this. But you'll basically never ever be able to experience any of this.
@@bingoberra18yeah.. probably most of them will not leave a showroom floor without 400k and, after all of them will be delivered, I believe the ones that will be sold with delivery miles will go in excess of 500k. I am sure there will be a shmuck that will ask 1 mil for one... and probably it will exist some other shmuck to pay that asking price.
Most, in the US, unless you’re a 918 VIP will average $300K over MSRP. I wouldn’t expect to see these on the second hand market for less than $650K (my prediction is that they’ll initially be around $750K-$800K, and will level back down to $650K)
Damn. They tried to kill the R speculators with the 911 GT3 Touring, and are resurrecting them with the ST. Lovely thing, but… ffs… another unobtainable, limited run bauble for those with 5 other Porsches already in the garage. Which is fine, btw… just a bit irritating. Interesting that they deleted the RWS. Good to know it’s not considered vital to the ultimate driver’s 911.
the yearly porsche slush fund... Like the 911 R and all others like it. Porsche can literally put out the same car and add g or k or ss or Ts or ur ... The mentalists will parrot the same thing... It's a strange social conditioning where no one dares say it's nothing special at all...
I do dislike it when Porsche make a limited edition. Obviously only selected customers will be able to purchase one, lock it away and then sell it when it has appreciated in value., So the rich get richer.
Beautiful but we'll hardly ever see one, they'll almost all be ordered by preferred Porsche buyers and sold for huge premiums, collected, exchanged again and hardly ever used. What a shame.
Sounds like a gt3 touring for a lot more money without the rear wheel steering? The 911T is the same with rear steering and with less hp which has 400 hp which is still too much for a street car. A silly new cobbled together Models’s to gasps porsche goofy fans to spend $400,000 plus on a car that cost them almost nothing extra.
Dude couldn’t stop interrupting to say nothing like humm oh yeah like let the man talk your attention level is like 2/10 couldn’t wait for him to finish talking he sounded on a hurry or some shit
Peak 911? Let’s hope it’s not Porsches Golf MK7.5 moment…anything afterwards downhill, and now you find the product is increasingly compromised by cost, EV and regulations.
Let me guess. Already sold out? 100 to Moscow, 100 to Emirates, 100 to China, 100 USA and the rest to connected collectors worldwide. Won't see one on the street ever.
Except you can’t buy one unless you’ve bought 5 Porsches already. You won’t get allocation. So young-ish people like me who are now making enough to have one can’t buy one. Lame Porsche. More more so young enthusiasts can actually buy one, not just old enthusiasts.
Believe me - older clients get screwed as well. I've bought 11 Porsches over the last 30 years including 3 GT3's, and the way Porsche does business now if I want to change up my 991.2 GT3 for a 992 I'd still have to pay $60-70K markup to get a new one. It didn't used to be that way.
This is perhaps the best road car ever built. Bloody hell.
It's too big as are all modern supercars.
911R part 2😊 this is going to be a classic and possibly the best 992 or 991 to have.
Andreas Preuninger, legend in the game!
Any time Andreas is interviewed I watch it! His enthusiasm never disappoints- he’s the real deal.
Andreas is exactly the type of person that should head up all performance car divisions. Absolute legend
Porsche could even double their sales if they cloned him as a saleman.
So are you going to pay him 10x his salary? No way 1 man can have a work life balance with that idea. Booo
@@AlohaSteve808 work life balance is for losers
Andreas Preuninger has become a legend similar to Mercedes' long-time S-Class boss Dr. Storp - and that's saying something. He has now been director of the GT class for 23 years - Dr. Storp was director for 'only' 12 years.
@@1q2w3e4r5t6zism must be an absolute dream job, really envy him
Words are not enough to express how I feel by looking at all the details of this beauty...and that powertrain! Absolutely sensational.
That front fender/door area is magnificent. What a car.
As usual, an awesome addition to the product line. And also as usual, in the US you will only be able to get one if you are an original 918 buyer, or if you're lucky enough to get an allocation and are willing pay at least $100K over list price. That's the current world of buying Porsche GT models.
Which would put price around $400K. 😮😮😮
Thats the current world of America is a rip off shithole scam regardless of the car you buy
Yeah exactly the problem with Porsche nowadays and why I won't buy a new model from them. People like myself who would buy this car and daily it aren't allowed to buy it anyway
ADM will easily be ~$150k+
@@Airbag1010674 So as someone pointed out elsewhere: a museum piece
The sound this thing makes is incredible.
It sounds identical to the gt3, gt3 touring or gt3-rs - they all have the same engine. Perforated headliner does not make the car sound better
@@jeffreykilpatrick3592 Did I say the GT3 or RS dont sound good?
But the rs is priced at $100,000 more than a touring and it is essentially the same car except without rear wheel steering which oddly is now a positive? Porsche is genius - charging for options they won’t let you have on a car.
@@jeffreykilpatrick3592 lol
This man knows the mass of every nut and bolt of this automobile. I can't imagine the countless hours he and his team poured into developing this masterpiece.
Porsche doing it again. Amazing.
Those revs were so satisfying 🤤
This is the sickest GT product they have made, and that's saying a lot.
An angrier GT3 Touring...I like it. 🍷🗿
It totally is. Am I wrong for wanting to put back seats in it? I have a 5 year old..... Lol
@@BrothaEwh I guess not. Specially because it's focused on road driving instead of the fastest track laps.
@@BrothaEwhnope, the Touring would make a LOT more sense with back seats and slightly softer suspension.. instead of just no wing
It's the Honda Type R of 911s
Really impressed with the transmission upgrades
Absolutelyperfect...but I don't even want to imagine how rare they are going to be.
That colour scheme is perfect, although I'd ditch the stickers
Love how they have kept the dials
The new 911 R, I need it.
It's a beautiful machine. And the timing is amazing - 60th anniversary and probably the final 992.1 model (unless there is a new GT2RS coming.....haven't heard peep about that though).
1380kg kerb weight, isn't this roughly the same as the 997 gen GT3 RS? That's impressive given that the ST is 25% bigger, more powerful and way faster. Congrats, what a car! Wish BMW had bothered doing the same effort for their ///M birthday...
It is not faster than the standard gt3 - same engine. Just a lot odd silly cosmetics for an extra $200,000 .
@@jeffreykilpatrick3592 read : 997 gen
Just image how much better it would have been if it was the same size as a 997 and 20% lighter ?
///M 50th year should have been really special. Its half century. All we got is an Ugly XM
@@ertugrulbae46 I was thinking about the new CSL. Forgot about that XM's marketing last nail in the coffin!
I need a 911ST in my life! 😎
Would love to see Andreas visiting Jay Leno Garage. It'd be an epic episode.
I will get this spec - but without the side badging. It's simply perfect!
It's a beautiful machine.
What a weapon, fantastic package Andres, thanks! Especially the original Porsche crest.
I doubt that my local will give me an allocation of the 1963, probably only for people to garage.
Pumped up touring.....
I’m 60. We’re made for each other.
1270kg dry - that's actually unbelievable
Power to weight ratio will be about the same as the 911 Turbo. 👍🏻
"Feels like it rips out of tarmac". I like that.
Stunning cars. Peak 911.
"Bee-spoke" LOL
Only 300 K and harder to get than a date with a super model
Great!! Can anyone actually buy one?
Got to love Porsche couple of changes add some letters and jack up the price by 10's of thousands
Anyone else getting bored of watching reviews about cars Porsche won't sell you?
wow! super nice Pcar.
Does this have the 9000rpm redline?
Another unobtainable Porsche thanks to the entire allocation being spoken for.
I’m dying!
Not a fan of the dual exhaust in the middle of the rear diffuser 😢😢😢
brilliant
So can I be allowed to buy one? Didn't think so.
Say this an awful lot on socials, TH-cam and online but I really wish there were more real world based car performance reviews. Of course they don’t or wouldn’t suit every category of car out there but for example someone thinking of swapping from say a BMW 530d to an M3 no reviewer on TH-cam really gives you that level of performance based review that it makes you think ‘right I’m off to the dealership’. 0-60s, demonstrated launch control, 1/4 miles, drag races with very similar cars, footage of a car on the road with seemingly nothing else there. They aren’t really what people want to see when deciding on a road car. They’re fun don’t get me wrong. I love to see drag races but everyone does them and they’re not really ‘real world’ demonstrations. In the real world you want to know if a car can comfortably overtake on a backroad with a 2-3 car backup in front of you, whether you can put your foot down on the motorway when John in his 58 reg A6 gets right up your arse and you don’t particularly want to have to shift across, just how much you can embarrass the local chavs in their Mountune Fiest ST when they try and go past you on a twisty road. Situations like those are what it would be really fun and good to see from a car review on TH-cam. Or even just drag race something like an RS3 against a bunch of cars you’re likely to see ‘road wankers’ driving that think they’re king eg 56 reg 320d, any Fiesta ST, 58 reg Range Rover Sports, Jaguar XF…… etc. if you’re thinking about splashing £60-70k+ on something, having a reviewer on TH-cam give you a bit of ‘feel good’ about higher performance road cars by demonstrating more real world scenarios it would go down a treat with a lot of folks on TH-cam imo.
That would be cool if you could actually buy one and drive it without being a flipper or Jay Leno
Its cool, but not a $100k-dollar-premium-over-the-GT3-touring cool. Realistically, you can replace the stock GT3 wheels with aftermarket carbon fiber wheels, and that alone will account for probably 25% of the weight reduction of the ST.
you are correct. What you don't get is the RS engine updates, shorter gearing, carbon panels, the S/T interior and the special damper calibration(on the TG video, Andreas insisted on special damper calibration in order for the car to work better as road car... so, what I understand from that is something similar with what honda did with type-r vs acura type-s damper calibration). I do not believe one second that all of those changes make up for 100k but, there's the limited edition thing and also, most probably, this is the last pure gt3(no turbo, no electric, no nothing) so, yeah, there's that as well m
@@eugenuxlast pure nonsense how many times have enthusiasts heard that
Why is it now a good change to have eliminated the rear wheel steering? On other models they charge extra for the rear wheel steering yet on this Car they are charging a $150,000 extra for removing the rear wheel steering? So how is it better to not have rws? Wait- they put on an old version of a hood logo? Well that is worth $50,000 extra… and they perforated the headliner? What is that worth? $1,000 extra? On the black one no deviated stitching? A bunch of cosmetic stuff- for hundreds of thousands extra? Almost two thousand cars does not make it all that rare. The low weight fly wheel wil make u
It harder to shift easily. Lower weight flywheel is cheaper than to make isn’t it? This makes the old 992 GT3 look like a real bargain!
💯💯
THIS is the kind of Porsche 911 analysis I want to see…by an real German Porsche Factory representative.
Give me a Touring with back seats and softer suspension.. instead of just doing a wing delete
How do you spell the color name? Shar Blue?
Shore Blue
So it is like a GT with the comfort of a regular carrera? I’m so confused with all the versions and trims
Its the touring version of the GT3 RS
@@AB-fr2ei Oh, so “street looking” GT3 RS?
@@Zelielz1 basically yeah
Also its manual and its 140 KG lighter than the RS
I'll take two.
It’s just sad that Porsche releases these master pieces just to be flipped by dealers (stealers) at twice the MSRP….at least that’s what happens in 🇺🇸
Porsche is the only manufacture now producing real driver's car.
Umm, hardly.
You spelled "investor's objects" wrong I guess.
@@markw9512💯
Another (brilliant) car that won’t be driven and is purely made to make flippers and OPCs money.
Y not build a car for everyone that wants it ?
The "S/T". I'm guessing it's naturally aspirated as no TT was mentioned. But, as a car celebrating 60 years i would have expected something more "outstanding". That spparates this 911 from allt he others...this is just a minor tweak of a GT3 Trouring...which I think is still the better car and the one i'd choose. It keeps "rear wheel steering" (essential in city driving) and it has sound isolation you 'd want in an "everyday driver". Or a car you might want to drive more than once a week on a Sunday mornig.
I would have lliked to have seen Porsche introuce a more "affordable" naturally aspirated e.g. Carrera S as the 60th Anniversary model. A car that has the "essential" characteristics of a 911 with only tech and preformance we actually need. Odd there is no "affordable 911 nat-aspir car" yet....for people who want a naturally aspirated car as their first 911...possibly their only 911 (I hear you need to have owned or bought 4 911's to be allowed to order a GT3 Touring/RS/STd..so wrong....i thought Porsche wants to sell cars :))
Love Porsche, have owned a few. Why are there so many videos covering these unobtanium GT models? For the average Porsche or sports car buyer, these cars simply aren’t available. Every person who is given an allocation will either park them in a garage for a decade to sell them for double the price, or sell them in a year or two and drive them for free plus make some bonus money. The rest of us look at them and go “cool car, looks like a dream spec” but it’s not even a consideration, so why hype them up so much? Everyone will be pre-sold to preferred Porsche return customers at a healthy dealer mark up. So we can then stare at one at a cars and coffee event or Porsche gathering and wonder what it might be like to drive or own one? I’m not bitter, i just don’t care, and why does anyone else who can’t afford or get an allocation for one even bother to watch these videos?
I can afford this car and I still won’t get an allocation, so I totally hear you.
Give it a little bit of time Porsche GT prices will start to fall, and the selling model for Porsche will have to be amended
The only caveat that can ruin my prediction is if they go full electric on a 911, which will undoubtedly raise the price and the desirability of the ICE 911s
€ 411.200 for the basic version at least, in my country. 😒😒
IN GOD WE TRUST 💎😇
Glad they altered that silly pop-up rear flap
so they say it's not track focused, yet put in a roll cage 😂😂😂😂
Another car for TH-camrs to show off or wealthy collectors to hide in a garage. Nothing for the bread and butter Porsche client, if something like that even exists. Don't get me wrong: it's great Porsche keeps developing stuff like this. But you'll basically never ever be able to experience any of this.
To all the rich and crazy Porsche supporters. Go and get it. The company and their shareholders need more money. 😂😂😂😂
Double Wishbone Suspension 🤣 Citroen had that 90 years ago.
Ok
can you name a better solution for a sports car? nope so why mock it?
what's Citreon Nordshleife lap time?
@@FenderUsawhy brag about it
Those overpriced GT3 tourings are about to take a dive. This is next level. PROPER!
I dont think so, it´s just that this one will go for even more than them on the second hand market, just like the 911R
Yeah, the 911 s/t is not overpriced. 🤣
@@bingoberra18yeah.. probably most of them will not leave a showroom floor without 400k and, after all of them will be delivered, I believe the ones that will be sold with delivery miles will go in excess of 500k. I am sure there will be a shmuck that will ask 1 mil for one... and probably it will exist some other shmuck to pay that asking price.
Most, in the US, unless you’re a 918 VIP will average $300K over MSRP. I wouldn’t expect to see these on the second hand market for less than $650K (my prediction is that they’ll initially be around $750K-$800K, and will level back down to $650K)
"Form an orderly queue" bollocks, you have to be on the "list" to get any limited edition Porsche.
just a 911r
Damn. They tried to kill the R speculators with the 911 GT3 Touring, and are resurrecting them with the ST. Lovely thing, but… ffs… another unobtainable, limited run bauble for those with 5 other Porsches already in the garage. Which is fine, btw… just a bit irritating.
Interesting that they deleted the RWS. Good to know it’s not considered vital to the ultimate driver’s 911.
Unobtanium!
Can't help but feel a Lotus Exige is better value for money and basically the same specs.
Another 911 version … they cannot be serious
But can you actually buy it,might get one when I get my Rolex Daytona, oooh never then!!!!!!
the yearly porsche slush fund...
Like the 911 R and all others like it.
Porsche can literally put out the same car and add g or k or ss or Ts or ur ... The mentalists will parrot the same thing... It's a strange social conditioning where no one dares say it's nothing special at all...
Exactly 💯💯
But porsche boys will eat dog shit as long Porsche is releasing it
porsche
I do dislike it when Porsche make a limited edition. Obviously only selected customers will be able to purchase one, lock it away and then sell it when it has appreciated in value., So the rich get richer.
Beautiful but we'll hardly ever see one, they'll almost all be ordered by preferred Porsche buyers and sold for huge premiums, collected, exchanged again and hardly ever used. What a shame.
What's the point? You can't even buy one unless you have a relationship with the dealer and brand. That's the reality. 🤔
The real Shame you can't buy them. Limited and sold already.
Now offer a slim body kit and further weight loss.
No back seat....thought it was meant to be road orientated
❤🙉
Cool cool cool another car you can’t actually buy
Sounds like a gt3 touring for a lot more money without the rear wheel steering? The 911T is the same with rear steering and with less hp which has 400 hp which is still too much for a street car. A silly new cobbled together Models’s to gasps porsche goofy fans to spend $400,000 plus on a car that cost them almost nothing extra.
gt3 rs "touring"
Yep.
It's like the bolt action on a rifle.
Am I the only one sick of this cliche when it comes to describing a short shifter at this point?
@@TheBucketOfTruth Yes
@@TheBucketOfTruthno
Dude couldn’t stop interrupting to say nothing like humm oh yeah like let the man talk your attention level is like 2/10 couldn’t wait for him to finish talking he sounded on a hurry or some shit
Real car porn..
Lovely car which will sadly be bought & flipped for stupid money, modern Porsche way
Peak 911? Let’s hope it’s not Porsches Golf MK7.5 moment…anything afterwards downhill, and now you find the product is increasingly compromised by cost, EV and regulations.
Another Porsche you cannot buy. 😂😂😂😂 how much over msrp for this one?
OVERPRICED AS USUAL.
Let me guess. Already sold out?
100 to Moscow, 100 to Emirates, 100 to China, 100 USA and the rest to connected collectors worldwide. Won't see one on the street ever.
yet another unavailable product with wall to wall advertising
Except you can’t buy one unless you’ve bought 5 Porsches already. You won’t get allocation. So young-ish people like me who are now making enough to have one can’t buy one. Lame Porsche. More more so young enthusiasts can actually buy one, not just old enthusiasts.
Believe me - older clients get screwed as well. I've bought 11 Porsches over the last 30 years including 3 GT3's, and the way Porsche does business now if I want to change up my 991.2 GT3 for a 992 I'd still have to pay $60-70K markup to get a new one. It didn't used to be that way.
So frustrating. And half the people who buy end up flipping after “owning” for 6+ months and putting
370k starting price in switzerland. L porsche
боже не дай им изуродовать порше
Is this car a toy? Because it is so small...
You will never see it unless you have a special relationship with Porsche. BS!
$375k .... posche is losing touch with reality.