Instead of remakes for Gen 5, I feel like they should just make a B&W 3. That way they could follow the traits of what the remakes have done with updated graphics, a nostalgic return to Unova and reusing elements from past games past Gen 5 AND avoid the games being too faithful/too different from the previous entry. Plus I think it’s fitting for this Gen considering instead of a third release, we got B&W 2. Though realistic, I am expecting a remake of B&W.
Sadly theyre gonna likely milk the idea of remakes for all eternity, but now at least we could get a legends type game of Unova where they actually try so hope thats good
Honestly it’s so sad how Nintendo and Game Freak tried to make more story driven Pokémon games but fans HATED gen 5 at the time because there “wasn’t old Pokémon” and “the story is too complicated” it’s so dumb…..
Absolutely what you said!! All the hate talk for gen 5 at the time kinda back-stabbed Gamefreak, Pokemon & directors, I feel. Even from back then, they’ve been trying to change
@@MarceloZ2 I remember being the one person when gen 5 came out like hey this games pretty cool and everyone else talking about how stupid it looked and not even giving it try mockin the pokemon's designs and stuff i think part of it is when gen 5 came out alot of people i knew were out growing the games but didn't realize it so they were just making fun of it
Pokemon White was my first real Pokemon game and I absolutely loved it. Gen 5 was and still is my favourite. Seeing people hate and mock it was sad and frustrating and now, 10 years later everyone says how it was actually good and I feel kinda like "I TOLD YOU! YOU DIDN'T LISTEN AND LOOK WHERE THAT LED US!"
I feel like BW&BW2 were complete games that have become iconic in the community for a reason. If its just gonna be a chibi "faithful" remake then I'd honestly prefer them not make them. I'd rather them let us revisit unova as a new game with a new story especially a legends game. We would get to go back to unova but we can see it in a different time and have lots of history building. The same routes would look interesting and exciting to explore yet would have resemblance to the modern region we know. Whatever they do I just want some effort put into it.
My wishlist for Generation 5 Remakes would be only one, please reveal the true form of kyurem since kyurem only have two additional forms by absorbing the two other dragons, I mean come on, it’s obvious that kyurem is the original dragon because kyurem is said to be stronger than both of his counterparts and kyurem is missing the truth and ideals from his former complete body, so his body is completely frozen and now he’s a dragon/ice type, maybe in Pokémon Black and White Remakes or even Pokémon Black and White 3, they should reveal the true form of kyurem when kyurem is still the original dragon, and in this unified dragon form, kyurem is going to be a pure dragon type with an ability that boosts all dragon, ice, fire and electric type moves and in this form, kyurem is going to have the highest base stat total of all dragon types and the original unified dragon form of kyurem is going to be called unified kyurem or original kyurem, and in the movie even referred kyurem as the strongest dragon type pokemon, so that’s why We are 💯% sure that kyurem is the true original unified dragon. And kyurem needs a new item that allows kyurem to absorb both legendaries to become the true original dragon form of kyurem because kyurem is just so cool.
if they remake gen 5. i really hope they acknowledge that hard mode exists and make it available from the start. XD knowing tpc and their recent track record... they would probably only remove stuff from the games instead of adding stuff though. its like a 50/50 chance that something like the PWT, Pokestar studios, or even black city/white forest would stay since it would take extra effort :/. bw/2 has so much stuff you could put into a category of "they didn't have to, but they did".
My wishlist for Generation 5 Remakes would be only one, please reveal the true form of kyurem since kyurem only have two additional forms by absorbing the two other dragons, I mean come on, it’s obvious that kyurem is the original dragon because kyurem is said to be stronger than both of his counterparts and kyurem is missing the truth and ideals from his former complete body, so his body is completely frozen and now he’s a dragon/ice type, maybe in Pokémon Black and White Remakes or even Pokémon Black and White 3, they should reveal the true form of kyurem when kyurem is still the original dragon, and in this unified dragon form, kyurem is going to be a pure dragon type with an ability that boosts all dragon, ice, fire and electric type moves and in this form, kyurem is going to have the highest base stat total of all dragon types and the original unified dragon form of kyurem is going to be called unified kyurem or original kyurem, and in the movie even referred kyurem as the strongest dragon type pokemon, so that’s why We are 💯% sure that kyurem is the true original unified dragon. And kyurem needs a new item that allows kyurem to absorb both legendaries to become the true original dragon form of kyurem because kyurem is just so cool.
They'll make gen 5 remakes for sure. But it's gonna disappoint a lot of fans because it'll only be a remake of BW1. And because it'll only be BW1, no PWT. Same thing as ORAS and BDSP with no Battle Frontiers.
To be fair ORAS at least added the Delta episode, new mons til gen 6, mega evolutions and the battle palais while BDSP only gave us the new underground adventure and some minor things. I share the same opinion that (sadly) Black/White remakes will be terrible...
BDSP wasn’t a cash grab it was a “You MFs want a remake, here’s a remake” because they clearly knew people would expect a classic style remake and just threw it to ILCA and told them to not really stray that far because it was their first game and GF probably felt it better to have them play it safe to avoid them getting behind (which ILCA still managed to do) while GF made Arceus instead.
They could make a game like oras, that captures the feeling of the original while innovating. Or they can split it into two games, one being super faithful and one being very innovative like sinnoh remakes. Personally I would prefer an oras style remake. But I kinda want it to stay in 2d. Gen 5 was the last game we got in 2d and it was special because of that. I really don't want them to render it in plain generic 3d with no soul like bdsp. An octopath style remake that celebrates the 2d pixel art while bringing a modern hd edge to everything would be amazing.
ORAS aren't particularly good remakes either though. Heartgold & Soulsilver are the gold standard for remakes with FireRed & Leafgreen coming in second. I don't even think the other remakes are worth talking about in a discussion about remakes because you get more out of playing Emerald and Platinum respectively. You don't get more out of playing Crystal or Yellow than you do of the remakes of their respective generation, conversely.
After the disappointment of the past several years, BW remakes are where I decide whether or not I ditch the series unless Scarlett and Violet (plus future installment) completely rebuild my faith. At this point I'm just waiting for remake time to come around again in 4 years or whatever since I lost my white vers and don't want to spend 500% on eBay
I'm already feeling kinda meh on Scarlet and Violet. Yea it might be open world now but from the trailers it seems like they've went back to the archaic "running into pokemon and teleport to battle arena" thing which reaaally kills the immersion. Especially after playing a game where you just throw your pokenon out and the battle happens right there in the world. It's crazy how something so small can completely turn me off to the game. I mean you just did it, and no one can argue that it's not objectively better, why would you not just have that as a staple now? I don't get it. Gamefreak always taking one step forward and three steps back. I don't know how to feel about these new games. It's just meh.
@@TaqSoto Yea believe me I know how you feel I haven't felt excited for a Pokemon game in a looooong time! In fact the last Pokemon game I remember playing was Y but after seeing how poorly made and low quality the game's have been as of lately honestly I've just lost all interest. And I also agree with you on the whole game freak taking one step forward and three steps back thing, I mean a lot of things they discarded from previous game's I feel should've been kept in as a staple to the series. Following Pokemon, The VS Seeker, having a cell phone and having your mom being able to save some of your money for you while's out on your adventure, the mach and acro bike's, making your own secret base, Pokemon contest's, the battle frontier, The VS Recorder, triple battles, rotation battles, active in game season changes, an actual hard mode and mega evolution. Yup A LOT of stuff could've been kept in.
Besides the 1st generation remakes, there is a pattern I have noticed 2•2=4. We got gen 2 remakes in gen 4 3•2=6. We got gen 3 remakes in gen 6 4•2=8. We got gen 4 remakes in gen 8 My theory is we will get gen 5 remakes in gen 10
I really don’t know how they are going to replicate the feeling of Gen 5. It was peak 2D era. IMO the Gen 5 games have aged very well compared to Gen 4 and other games.
Pretty good video, but just as an FYI, they've had two internal teams for a while. Basically they have two teams for Pokémon and then a third team for their "GEAR project" stuff which is basically their indie stuff like Tembo the Badass Elephant for example. You can see that they've had two teams though given the timing of Gen 4+ releases though since BW came out only a year after HGSS, and a year is super short for a dev cycle, especially for a 3D game that does a fair amount of upgrades to the engine as well. Also, many might wonder why there are some regressions between releases there, like no following Pokémon for example, and part of that is from them being developed in tandem more or less. Looking inside of BW also shows some remainders from DP and nothing from HGSS also giving more evidence of the tandem development. I think the issue more is that their current three year cycle is too short for how much more effort is needed on bigger scale projects to get the same level of quality.
My guess is Gen 5 remakes come out a year after the Gen 10 games. "Pokemon Light Black and Pokemon Dark White, Available Worldwide November 18th, 2026."
My wishlist for Generation 5 Remakes would be only one, please reveal the true form of kyurem since kyurem only have two additional forms by absorbing the two other dragons, I mean come on, it’s obvious that kyurem is the original dragon because kyurem is said to be stronger than both of his counterparts and kyurem is missing the truth and ideals from his former complete body, so his body is completely frozen and now he’s a dragon/ice type, maybe in Pokémon Black and White Remakes or even Pokémon Black and White 3, they should reveal the true form of kyurem when kyurem is still the original dragon, and in this unified dragon form, kyurem is going to be a pure dragon type with an ability that boosts all dragon, ice, fire and electric type moves and in this form, kyurem is going to have the highest base stat total of all dragon types and the original unified dragon form of kyurem is going to be called unified kyurem or original kyurem, and in the movie even referred kyurem as the strongest dragon type pokemon, so that’s why We are 💯% sure that kyurem is the true original unified dragon. And kyurem needs a new item that allows kyurem to absorb both legendaries to become the true original dragon form of kyurem because kyurem is just so cool.
Honestly, I think that having Gen 5 remakes in the next 4 years should be bare minimum. That was peak pokemon for me, and probably mostly most us, and even the sequels associated with gen 5 even more. I would rather dlc after dlc after dlc just to delay it as much as possible for quality. I could care less if the national Dex comes back, but I know there are people that want that the most (sometimes). My point is, I just want a tad bit more time. I bought 1 copy of each games since diamond and pearl and that supports them, maybe a bit more differences besides literal night and day and a few pokemon. Maybe plot points, areas, and such. I always have enjoyed pokemon games, but a little more spice could go a long way
Fr like: The gym leaders were actually memorable and were involved in the story. The game felt complete and there were no game breaking features. And it was overall a pretty cool game that really did a lot for Pokemon.
Yeah especially since Ingo was reintroduced into the story. It’d be nice to get a remake since not everyone knows who he was before PLA, but I would rather quality over them shoving it out as fast as they can.
Well dont compare future black and white games or black 2 white 2. They wont make it like gen 4 remakes dont worry, they won't make it chibi or faithful it's just for gen 4 remakes
I think that they let anothrr company make the game because gamefreak was busy with violet and scarlet and legends arceus, It is 2 big games and since gamefreak has a few developers i hope they did a more simple gen 4 remake. It had a lot of potential tho... it could be like oras and add gigantamax in the game aswell with open areas like sword and shield, and they could enhance characters, story, etc
Generation V was the last games to use chibis. X and Y made it full 3D. Even if they use the Gen 4 remakes' chibi style for the Gen 5 remakes to be faithful, they can't do it for Kalos without downgrading. With the reception of BDSP's chibi models and how they are one generation away from being done with remaking the sprite-styled games, I think the 3D chibi thing is going to be exclusive to the Sinnoh remakes.
The pattern seems like the remake comes after you double the number of the generation Gen 2 remakes in Gen 4 Gen 3 remakes in Gen 6 Gen 4 remakes in Gen 8 Gen 5 remakes in Gen 10?
Next games are let's go johto for sure, but I agree I'm pretty worried about actual main series remakes. I hope they all get the oras treatment from here on out. Those were some good remakes.
Instead of doing remakes it would be so cool to get dlc in the main games where we can visit one of the old regions, just like in Crystal! Like, going to Unova after finishing scarlet/violet
There is no way that'll happen ever again. Last time we had 2 regions in a game was 23 years ago( i don't count HGGS because they are remakes). And the second region had nothing to do in it other then get the gym badges. Don't get your hopes up.
They should make it that when you beat the bw remake it starts bw2 (you would be able to choose to go back and forth at the title screen) and they make your team at the end of bw into a superboss at the end of bw2
Remakes seem to follow two patterns: they’re on new hardware and they’re 1/2 the new Gen #. Besides Gen 1 being remade in Gen 3: - Gen 4 had Gen 2 remakes - Gen 6 had Gen 3 remakes - gen 8 had gen 4 remakes I think Gen 5 remakes will follow this pattern and will be part of Gen 10. Maybe Gen 9 gets a Let’s Go style Johto game 🤞
There's another way to interpret the pattern though: every gen gets a remake, two console generations later. The GB games got remakes on the GBA, the GBC games got remakes on the DS, the GBA games got remakes on the 3DS, and one set of the DS games so far has had a remake on the Switch. So I would say its even odds whether the Gen V games will be on the switch as well.
Very good points, one thing i really want if we re-visit Unova is to see the original unova dragon. Since Zekrom is my favorite Pokémon, and I like Reshiram a lot too, seeing the original dragon they came from would be awesome
I mean, when they aren't being overseen by Game Freak/The Pokémon Company, ILCA has worked on stuff like Nier: Automata, Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Yakuza 0, and Dragon Quest XI, so I would guess that they weren't the primary reason why BDSP ended up like it did.
I’ve been convinced since announcement that PLA was originally meant to be the remakes. I also hope that a future “platinum” version will be released using PLA’s engine but I doubt that would happen.
I am pesemistically optimistic about the gen 5 remakes. I hope they turn out better than the gen 4 remakes did. I don't want to get my hopes up too high, but I just hope the gen 5 remakes turn out well. Fingers crossed!
If they do a Gen 5 remake, I would love for them to keep the difficulty feature that it has whether through unlock or get it from the beginning, allow us to turn off and on the exp share(or get rid of it entirely), a whole new story, and there's a lot of other stuff that I and other people want but would take too long to type out
gen 5 did have quite nice features with the battle train that many of us missed out on. With how accessible wi-fi is for everyone around the globe, it could be INCREDIBLE! Imagine organizing tournament modes with ramdom trainers across the world!
I’ve been replaying my copy of White 2 over the past week, and I do feel it’s definitely way too soon for a gen 5 remake. If they’re going to be the same quality as the gen 4 remakes, nah. I’ll just go replay the originals instead of handing out $60 for a crumpled up and stepped on version of my childhood.
We need to at least get both the main game and sequels as base plus all events playable without Internet including dream training. One added things: Mega Evolutions and paradox Pokemon.
Ok i have a small formula i noticed for remakes, they always come out at the generation that is double the number of the original, except gen 1 but its the only exception Gen 2 - Gen 4 Gen 3 - Gen 6 Gen 4 - Gen 8 Since pokemon is now releasing yearly, gen 9 is already confirmed for this year, Scarlet and Violet - Whatever Pokemon Does to Fill a Year(WPDtFaY) - WPDtFaY - Gen 10 main games - Gen 5 remakes or WPDtFaY I put 3 games/dlc per gen because its what happened to gens 8 and 7, so 5 or 6 years if my prediction is correct, thats what i have for release date
I really hope we get both a B/W and B2/W2 in a same game, so as to have a continuous playthrough. I can already read some of y'all commenting against it lol
The remake release schedule has actually been extremely consistent. There's a new remake in the first generation on a new console (Gen 3 on GBA had FRLG, Gen 4 on DS had HGSS, Gen 6 on 3DS had ORAS, and Gen 8 on Switch had BDSP). I expect Gen 5 remakes on the Switch 2 or whatever.
I grew up with pokemon when it started with red and blue. I love the pokemon franchise. What I don't like is how the games get easier and easier. I miss the challenge and the grind. It made u feel accomplished at the end of the game. Nowadays we have exp share that's automatic which I hate with a passion and easy trainers to fight. I remember when our red and blue rival battles even in johto was a little nerve wrecking cause they honestly weren't the easiest qt the time. That's the fun. I keep playing the new games but I never look forward to it like I used too. It also doesn't help that kids these days get there hands held with everything and aren't challenged cause God forbid we make something difficult and force the kid to actually think about it. This is all my opinion.
Fun fact, Gamefreak has one of the worst employee work schedules I’ve seen out of a Japanese game studio. Also pla and bdsp were both delayed because of Covid.
I've been saying this for years: Pokemon is a victim of its own success. The games are rushed out because they need there to always be something new. Something new to be turned into plushies, anime, trading cards, pyjamas, bed sheets, action figures etc etc etc. They've got their foot strapped to the accelerator and the brakes are broken. Even if the developers want to slow down and spend a couple years making a really good game, they can't because they need to pump out new content to support everything else.
I heard that originally Pearl and diamond was going to have all the features legends bad but they couldn’t make it work, so they separated those features into a second game instead? Which I think is incredibly fascinating and slots with what you said in the video!
I don't want remakes for Gen 5. Despite it being my favorite generation, I don't feel like anything will do it justice. Ever. No, no. What I'd like to see is a "continuation" of Legends where this time, it takes place in Unova. There's obviously quite a lot of lore that can be expanded on. In fact, one of the Gym Leaders is in a museum and library.
-Pokémon Legends: Kyurem pitch- The game is set in Unova, thousands of years ago, during the quarrel between the 2 brothers over truth and ideals. Just like the Diamond & Pearl clans, there will be 2 sides during the main story. You will be able to side with truth or ideals during the climax. Might add a rough story pitch here later.
I’m absolutely fine with Gen 5 getting the BDSP treatment because they are just really good games and the BDSP treatment didn’t really suit BDSP, but I bet it suits BW.
I actually have a counter argument to the “no set pattern for remakes”. Every set of remakes to come out thus far (besides FRLG/Let’s Go) has come out in the generation number that doubles their original generation of release (Gen2 remakes in gen 4, gen 3 remakes in gen 4, gen 4 remakes in gen 8, etc) so if we follow this pattern we’ll get gen 5 remakes as early as next gen. Still too early to say but I just thought I’d mention that.
upon a new console the devs also need to get used to working with said console's limitations, diamond/pearl were on the same console as b2w2, and the difference between those games is absolutely insane
my favorite thing about past remakes it how you saw older regions in new game engines, enhancing or giving a new spin on old regions Gen 8 has a good battle system imo and the human models are actually pretty damn good so i was excited to see Sinnoh in 3D with those models etc but…no…we got a lazy “faithful” remake. I didn’t even care for ORAS but i loved seeing the world in the XY region, how Mega Evolution impacts the region, and everything else they introduced. It made it so that there were two unique ways to explore Hoenn.
I’d love to see them take as much time as possible with the bw/bw2 reimagining (or remake, but preferably the former). Gen 5 was my first dive into the series, and if waiting means I’m in a retirement home before it comes out, so be it. I’d love to see Unova reimagined into an artstyle like X/Y (if they want it to be nostalgic) or a modern style like SV. I want to see Pokéstar studios come back, the PWC could have characters from games that came out after BW for added fanservice! Theres also the mini-beauty paegent that could (should) return as well. There is so much that the pkmn company needs to refine if everything that makes BW really special is to be added into the remakes, so if it takes 10+ years for “Blinding White” and “Void Black” to come out I don’t care. I just want Gen5 to get as much love as it can for everything that it came packed with.
Honestly we need to see the original dragon!!!! Kyurem need justice How does necrozma get its two forms and completed form thru fake mega evolution and a Unique Z-Move ontop of that while Kyurem gotta go white or black forms only Also I would like the gen 5 games to have a new game plus mode Where the first play through is white/Black then New game plus is Black/white 2 But the gyms are way higher level So base game would be Level 1 - level 50 (can’t go higher) Then NG+ goes Level 50 - level 100 Each playthrough has 50 levels. And FULL NATIONAL DEX ALL 900+ Pokémon IDGAF doesn’t matter if I can catch them in game just as long as I can get them into the game thru home. GMAX was ASS X moves were decent Megas are necessary now no exceptions Bring them back
There really is a lot to potentially consider when it comes to revisiting Unova. I wouldn't be surprised if doing so would leave someone put off no matter what ends up happening. We could question which games to remake, could both get remade, or could it be some kind of composite? If it's B1W1, Do we keep the original Unova native only Dex or update to be more like sequels? What about the National dex? If the Unova base Dex is kept then the expedition that happens in the post game that leads directly into the B2W2 Dex should also be part of the game in some capacity and maybe even addressed directly as some kind of event. What things should be tampered with to smooth out the playthrough? I recently replayed Black version and feel like the distribution of the Pokemon in the Dex could of been better, the way we are prevented from entering the Dream Yard proper until after the first Gym isn't needed, and being able to explore that next route past just a bit would be nice. Those changes would go along way in helping players feel less railroaded and open up more options for the player in those early moments of the game and feel like perfectly valid things to do considering how options immediate explode in quantity by the 2nd to 3rd Gym. Instead of remakes how about another sequel further in Unova's time line where we get to see the Unova change again thus completely dodging the above questions entirely? In such a scenario, should the original games get a kind of remaster with quality of life improvements? What mechanics should be brought over, is it possible to reimagine some instead using them whole sell, and could we see regional variants added in if the remake is of the sequels or is replaced with another new sequel. What about the idea of further emphasizing the changes in the original native Pokemon Unova brought on by the new additions to the population rather than how Regional variant show the other way around. This could provide a nice opportunity to create new native Pokemon to like Legends did for Sinnoh. Maybe now that Basculin has some environmental pressure it could regain it's evolution or gain new ones for each of the 2 forms.
My desired outcome of this inevitability would be a port of B/W/B2/W2 (maybe as a “Black and White” gimmick with B1/W2 on one release, and W1/B2 on the other) and followed up with a B3/W3 release. That way, even if the threequals are rushed and not great, it’s at least not destroying the original and adds more onto the lore in general
I think part of the problem is that Pokémon has just gotten to big for Gamefreak. They are forced to create the games in short time to match with everything else to Pokémon, such as the TCG. They get rushed, and only get focus on things that will make them sell better. It's unfortunate.
I don't even think Black and White need remakes. They still hold up to this day and have minimal flaws. Maybe give Unova more attention by giving it a "Legends" game. I would hate to see Pokemon going full Disney by remaking original products that don't need one.
I'd love if they remake B/W. They are my favorite Pokemon games. But if they mess it up... I will be super disappointed. I want it like the FF7 remake. Take the story and worlds, and expand on them.
I can agree that BDSP were mediocre remakes. I enjoyed them and had fun, but, I think my praise was focused more on my experience with the League and all the rematches. I hope the Unova remakes add in Basculegion with new Colors for both formes. I also want more Non-Unova Pokémon available in the main story like early access to Shinx via game data that gives you access to places like Galar/ IoA/ CT for Sword/ Shield, Sinnoh for BDSP and Obsidian Fieldlands with PLA. How the Fieldlands would work in Unova remakes, maybe a Dialga is present in Castelia City that takes you to Hisui? I dunno. Maybe for each game, certain Pokémon are available each day in BW/ BW2 Remakes? Galar could cycle through Pokémon from Kalos onward, Sinnoh could cycle through stuff Kanto to Hoenn and Hisui would give access to Hisuian Formes and Sinnoh Pokémon. Meaning if you want a team consisting of Hisuian Samurott, Luxray, Klefki, Gengar, Lycanroc and Ursaluna, you can. Of course, you'd be given the Hisuian Pokéballs in Hisui and battle your Hero character in Jubilife Village using the team Arceus was beaten with.
Honestly it often times feels like video game developers now want to just sell a product (and yes I know there main focus is always it make money but still) and not make an enjoyable experience/form of art….
So something ive noticed when it comes to remakes is they remake the gen when the number is double. So gen 2 during gen 4, gen 3 during gen 6, gen 4 during gen 8, and gen1 when ever they want money. So gen 5 probably during gen 10 if they continue with this streak
Going of of the pattern of remakes coming out in the generation double theirs, gen 2 in gen 4, gen 3 in gen 6, and recently gen 4 in gen 8, I believe we are going to get gen 5 remakes whenever generation 10 is realesed
Honestly i really don't want them to mess up gen5 because of remakes but if by any chance they revisit unova as a sequel or prequal and not as a remake, i really want them to make the original legendary dragon that reshiram, zekrom, and kyurem split off from since they never really elaborated upon it's original form
My wishlist for Generation 5 Remakes would be only one, please reveal the true form of kyurem since kyurem only have two additional forms by absorbing the two other dragons, I mean come on, it’s obvious that kyurem is the original dragon because kyurem is said to be stronger than both of his counterparts and kyurem is missing the truth and ideals from his former complete body, so his body is completely frozen and now he’s a dragon/ice type, maybe in Pokémon Black and White Remakes or even Pokémon Black and White 3, they should reveal the true form of kyurem when kyurem is still the original dragon, and in this unified dragon form, kyurem is going to be a pure dragon type with an ability that boosts all dragon, ice, fire and electric type moves and in this form, kyurem is going to have the highest base stat total of all dragon types and the original unified dragon form of kyurem is going to be called unified kyurem or original kyurem, and in the movie even referred kyurem as the strongest dragon type pokemon, so that’s why We are 💯% sure that kyurem is the true original unified dragon. And kyurem needs a new item that allows kyurem to absorb both legendaries to become the true original dragon form of kyurem because kyurem is just so cool.
I personally think that they are gonna skip black and white or not give them a fully fledged remake and more something like a legends game and make X and Y remakes or sequels connected to violet and Scarlett bc of the geographical proximity
The remakes absolutely do have a pattern. It’s (current gen)/2 = the gen to receive a remake. E.g. HGSS (4th gen) 4/2=2 original johto came out in gen 2 ORAS 6th gen 6/2=3 hoenn came out in gen 3 BDSP 8th gen 8/2=4 sinnoh came out in gen 4 Following this trend we can expect unova games in gen 10
I'm scared but excited. My childhood is coming full circle. Most hours logged into any generation ever for me. Gen 3 and it's remakes are a close 2nd. But gen v is un beatable for replayability
In my opinion, i would think that idealistically to have BW/BW2 ports to the switch and a legends type game. I think that with BW2, they wrapped up the region’s story pretty nicely and a BW3 would probably be more iffy and shoehorned in for lore. A legends type game would be perfect for lore expansion and a chance to see the original dragon.
Idk I think another pattern to the remakes is the remake always come out once the initial generation is doubled. Gen 1 kinda had a remake in gen 2 with Kanto’s inclusion, gen 2 remakes came out in gen 4, Gen 3 remakes in 6, and Gen 4 remakes in 8. I’m almost 100% sure we’ll see Gen 5 remakes in Gen 10.
Honestly I don’t think they need remakes at all. I love the aesthetic of gen 5 way more then the current games and I wish the gen 3 remakes had come out during gen 5 so we could’ve gotten gen 5 aesthetic Hoenn. Also I’m terrified of a remake especially after the horrible Sinnoh remakes…..
A interesting thing I've noticed happening with the remakes (not saying it is a pattern) is other then the gen 1 remakes it's like they take the current generation and then they divide by 2 for what remake lines up where. So 2 and 4, 3 and 6, and then 4 and 8. Sorry if I worded it poorly, I don't know if I explained it well 😅
Hey I would be excited for a Gen 5 remake if they make it one of these days, it would be cool if they add both Black&White and Black&White2 areas in the game, and Kyurem Fusion.
I mean there is a pattern if you count out the gen 1 remakes. Gen 2 remakes came with Gen 4, then Gen 3 remake came with Gen 6. And you guessed it Gen 4 remakes came with generation 8 so im guessing Gen 5 remakes will come with Generation 10.
This issue with gen 5 now after the release of gen 9 is that they either need to go the legends route for gen 5 or scarlet Violet route with gen 5. I don’t think they will go the same route as bdsp with black & white but how can they go anywhere with it the game has evolved past making a remake as it would require going straight to the redrawing board.
My wishlist for Generation 5 Remakes would be only one, please reveal the true form of kyurem since kyurem only have two additional forms by absorbing the two other dragons, I mean come on, it’s obvious that kyurem is the original dragon because kyurem is said to be stronger than both of his counterparts and kyurem is missing the truth and ideals from his former complete body, so his body is completely frozen and now he’s a dragon/ice type, maybe in Pokémon Black and White Remakes or even Pokémon Black and White 3, they should reveal the true form of kyurem when kyurem is still the original dragon, and in this unified dragon form, kyurem is going to be a pure dragon type with an ability that boosts all dragon, ice, fire and electric type moves and in this form, kyurem is going to have the highest base stat total of all dragon types and the original unified dragon form of kyurem is going to be called unified kyurem or original kyurem, and in the movie even referred kyurem as the strongest dragon type pokemon, so that’s why We are 💯% sure that kyurem is the true original unified dragon. And kyurem needs a new item that allows kyurem to absorb both legendaries to become the true original dragon form of kyurem because kyurem is just so cool.
I hope they just don’t remake them. Black and White are my favorite Pokémon games and after playing bdsp gen 4 left a horrible taste in my mouth to the point where I don’t even wanna see platinum. I really don’t trust game freak with this and I hope they just pour all their resources on a legends style game for gen 5 and we at most get a port of this game. Part of its charm is the animated sprites which will just be lost on a remake anyway. I’d rather get a port of a good game and a not rushed, shitty looking legends experience than another bdsp and a rushed legends game.
A pattern that I've noticed with Pokemon remakes is that they always are made in the generation that's double of their own (Gen 1 excluded of course) I mean think about it. Gen 2 remakes came out in Gen 4, Gen 3 remakes came out in Gen 6 and the Gen 4 remakes came out in Gen 8. I feel like I'm the only one who sees the pattern.
Game freak does have 2 teams! It’s been confirmed. They have a team of experienced devs and new devs. The new devs were put on legends and the experienced ones on gen 9 while ilca did remakes.
Since Gen 5 created Fusion it would only make sense that the entire team should work on it we care more about making a proper Gen 5 remake then we do about any new gen
Something I have learned from being part of the Pokémon Community for the last 15 years is that the fans will find something to bitch about NO MATTER WHAT. Gen 1: BeSt ThInG eVeR (genwunners) Gen 2: Too many babies! Gen 3: Too much water! Gen 4: HP bar too slow! Gen 5: Where are all the old Pokémon?! Gen 6: Game too EZ >:( Gen 7: Z-Moves DUMB! Gen 8: #Dexit!! Fans require perfection and will screech when it's not perfect to them.
My prediction for when we get gen 5 remakes has been gen 10 for awhile now. My reasoning for this is because, aside from fire red and leaf green which released with gen 3, all the remakes have release with the gen that is twice their own. Heart good and soul silver were apart of 4, ORAS was gen 6, and gen 4 was paired with 8.
An interesting pattern is that we tend to get remakes on every even numbered generation, with extra games on the odd ones. If this pattern is intentional, it may be why we never got pokemon z in gen 6 (although maybe we can get it in gen 12)
I think the two teams dynamic at GameFreak is actually really good as a software developer myself at a certain point a teams becomes to large and it feels clunky to work with the others. Sure with a good management it can work, but there is a reason why most beloved games in the past years were created by small teams consisting of old and new developers. Communication is easier and the mix of old developers and their experience and new developers bringing in new methods is really good. But there are two things I think that hold GF back, the first one is the lack of new and young developers they have some but they seem to prefer to stick to the old teams, the other problem I see is there game engine. If what I read is true every Pokemon game on the Switch is being run on a modified 3DS engine, which they adjusted and ported to the Switch. This limits their games by alot and is the reason they graphics aren't what we expect. This is also were the second team could come in clutch. They should simply start developing a new engine based on an already existing one from Nintendo. Sure it's alot of work but it will benefit the whole company. This would mean that while they developing this engine the other team would need to develop DLC for the current game but that shouldn't be a problem. But I think GF is to lazy. They will probably wait for the next console and do it.
ILCA is busy with One Piece Odyssey right now and I would say it looks better than BDSP let's hope they treat One Piece with care. As for Pokemon Legends Arceus to me that felt like the real deal Gen 4 remake if anything I can see Gen 5 getting the same treatment and hype up Pokemon Legends treatment with the original dragon. But if anything after Gen 9 we will most likely see Gen 2 remakes considering after Gen 4 we got those ans hoping since Pokemon Legends Arceus sold well I really want it to become a series itself. But if ILCA gets to remake Gen 5 hoping GameFreak would give them more creative freedom because in the concept art from ILCA it seems like they were going all out but then Masuda stepped in to keep it safe and I don't Masuda the man is doing his job.
Games change during development all the time so I would imagine the concept art orginally was gonna take it to a Platinum direction but then they decided to go to the original Diamond and Pearl direction Masuda wanted that to happen but like I said he was in charge of the remakes a lot of passionate Pokemon Fans tend to hate on Masuda they see him as the guy that ruined Pokemon but to me I see him as a awesome dude that is passionate about Pokemon as well,I'm not blaming Masuda the guy is a genius when it comes to music he created some of the best in the Pokemon series not to mention he also directed Gen 5 as well. The concept art isn't a rumor Johto Jonny did a video on the Concept Art of what the gen 4 remakes were originally once different but basically yes they change that's how it is for game development.
@@FTChomp9980 but like I said concept art is not indicative of the product and it was always gonna be DP remakes - third versions are never remade. Masuda does deserve more respect though
@@FTChomp9980 Johto Johnny had no evidence for that claim. I love him and his discussions and analysis, but that claim about the concept art wasn’t true at all. Even the art book itself says differently. He was trying to figure out why BDSP wasn’t done better and looking for a way to blame Masuda because he doesn’t like Masuda. He even says Arceus was so good because Masuda wasn’t involved when that is demonstrably incorrect.
Instead of remakes for Gen 5, I feel like they should just make a B&W 3. That way they could follow the traits of what the remakes have done with updated graphics, a nostalgic return to Unova and reusing elements from past games past Gen 5 AND avoid the games being too faithful/too different from the previous entry. Plus I think it’s fitting for this Gen considering instead of a third release, we got B&W 2. Though realistic, I am expecting a remake of B&W.
I’d LOVE a Black & White 3. Honestly I’d love to have the Aestheticig actually Gen 5 but with the switch’s power and graphics.
Sadly theyre gonna likely milk the idea of remakes for all eternity, but now at least we could get a legends type game of Unova where they actually try so hope thats good
Black & White 3 would be so cool!
As much as I'd love the idea of B/W3, it won't happen, we'll just get whatever is the least effort and cost for them to crap out quickly.
Idunno I’d prefer a legends Kyurem over a bw3
Honestly it’s so sad how Nintendo and Game Freak tried to make more story driven Pokémon games but fans HATED gen 5 at the time because there “wasn’t old Pokémon” and “the story is too complicated” it’s so dumb…..
Yeah, people are now reaping what they've sowed.
Absolutely what you said!!
All the hate talk for gen 5 at the time kinda back-stabbed Gamefreak, Pokemon & directors, I feel. Even from back then, they’ve been trying to change
@@MarceloZ2 I remember being the one person when gen 5 came out like hey this games pretty cool and everyone else talking about how stupid it looked and not even giving it try mockin the pokemon's designs and stuff i think part of it is when gen 5 came out alot of people i knew were out growing the games but didn't realize it so they were just making fun of it
Pokemon White was my first real Pokemon game and I absolutely loved it. Gen 5 was and still is my favourite. Seeing people hate and mock it was sad and frustrating and now, 10 years later everyone says how it was actually good and I feel kinda like "I TOLD YOU! YOU DIDN'T LISTEN AND LOOK WHERE THAT LED US!"
@@nataliaborys1554 i feel u
I feel like BW&BW2 were complete games that have become iconic in the community for a reason. If its just gonna be a chibi "faithful" remake then I'd honestly prefer them not make them. I'd rather them let us revisit unova as a new game with a new story especially a legends game. We would get to go back to unova but we can see it in a different time and have lots of history building. The same routes would look interesting and exciting to explore yet would have resemblance to the modern region we know. Whatever they do I just want some effort put into it.
Id like to think they’d actually pay attention to the backlash of the previous remakes but thats just wishful thinking 😩
My wishlist for Generation 5 Remakes would be only one, please reveal the true form of kyurem since kyurem only have two additional forms by absorbing the two other dragons, I mean come on, it’s obvious that kyurem is the original dragon because kyurem is said to be stronger than both of his counterparts and kyurem is missing the truth and ideals from his former complete body, so his body is completely frozen and now he’s a dragon/ice type, maybe in Pokémon Black and White Remakes or even Pokémon Black and White 3, they should reveal the true form of kyurem when kyurem is still the original dragon, and in this unified dragon form, kyurem is going to be a pure dragon type with an ability that boosts all dragon, ice, fire and electric type moves and in this form, kyurem is going to have the highest base stat total of all dragon types and the original unified dragon form of kyurem is going to be called unified kyurem or original kyurem, and in the movie even referred kyurem as the strongest dragon type pokemon, so that’s why We are 💯% sure that kyurem is the true original unified dragon. And kyurem needs a new item that allows kyurem to absorb both legendaries to become the true original dragon form of kyurem because kyurem is just so cool.
Or better yet. How about making an Legend: Kyurem?
@@kerrywien6775 or the first three types Pokémon dropping the dragon type for an ability that still powers it up
@@SoulStoryMode it is nintendo and game freak. They probably won't listen a bit. They kinda never do
if they remake gen 5. i really hope they acknowledge that hard mode exists and make it available from the start. XD
knowing tpc and their recent track record... they would probably only remove stuff from the games instead of adding stuff though. its like a 50/50 chance that something like the PWT, Pokestar studios, or even black city/white forest would stay since it would take extra effort :/. bw/2 has so much stuff you could put into a category of "they didn't have to, but they did".
If they remove Pokestar studios Im throwin HANDS
@@SoulStoryMode I'll join ya
My wishlist for Generation 5 Remakes would be only one, please reveal the true form of kyurem since kyurem only have two additional forms by absorbing the two other dragons, I mean come on, it’s obvious that kyurem is the original dragon because kyurem is said to be stronger than both of his counterparts and kyurem is missing the truth and ideals from his former complete body, so his body is completely frozen and now he’s a dragon/ice type, maybe in Pokémon Black and White Remakes or even Pokémon Black and White 3, they should reveal the true form of kyurem when kyurem is still the original dragon, and in this unified dragon form, kyurem is going to be a pure dragon type with an ability that boosts all dragon, ice, fire and electric type moves and in this form, kyurem is going to have the highest base stat total of all dragon types and the original unified dragon form of kyurem is going to be called unified kyurem or original kyurem, and in the movie even referred kyurem as the strongest dragon type pokemon, so that’s why We are 💯% sure that kyurem is the true original unified dragon. And kyurem needs a new item that allows kyurem to absorb both legendaries to become the true original dragon form of kyurem because kyurem is just so cool.
Actually the best thing to come out of gen 8 was Legends Arceaus hands down.
Yes, if you talk about main games. If you included side games, would your opinion be different?
agreed! Been a while since the majority of the Pokémon community collectively enjoyed a game like they did PLA.
Yeah it was but they should've added more new Pokemons instead of adding only bunch of them.
@Awesome Ocelot It's been two weeks since I wrote to you! Could you please answer my question?
@@SuperPlacido1 Spinoff games like Pokemon Snap don't really belong in any gen, though.
They'll make gen 5 remakes for sure. But it's gonna disappoint a lot of fans because it'll only be a remake of BW1. And because it'll only be BW1, no PWT. Same thing as ORAS and BDSP with no Battle Frontiers.
The PWT is my favorite post game content from pokemon.
To be fair ORAS at least added the Delta episode, new mons til gen 6, mega evolutions and the battle palais while BDSP only gave us the new underground adventure and some minor things. I share the same opinion that (sadly) Black/White remakes will be terrible...
As a huge Gen 4 fan, I can only hope Gen 5 fans get a game worthy of their generation, because we certainly didn’t get one
Legends was cool though!
Gen 5 was my first experience in pokemon and i enjoyed it but never really played it bc i used to suck at pokemon and didnt really understand it
Gen 2 & 3 got what they deserved, gen 4 just received garbage!
Na
@@MrMonkey2150 cry
@@user-ye9bc7nw2c stfu dude, nobody wants you here
BDSP wasn’t a cash grab it was a “You MFs want a remake, here’s a remake” because they clearly knew people would expect a classic style remake and just threw it to ILCA and told them to not really stray that far because it was their first game and GF probably felt it better to have them play it safe to avoid them getting behind (which ILCA still managed to do) while GF made Arceus instead.
They could make a game like oras, that captures the feeling of the original while innovating. Or they can split it into two games, one being super faithful and one being very innovative like sinnoh remakes. Personally I would prefer an oras style remake. But I kinda want it to stay in 2d. Gen 5 was the last game we got in 2d and it was special because of that. I really don't want them to render it in plain generic 3d with no soul like bdsp. An octopath style remake that celebrates the 2d pixel art while bringing a modern hd edge to everything would be amazing.
ORAS aren't particularly good remakes either though. Heartgold & Soulsilver are the gold standard for remakes with FireRed & Leafgreen coming in second. I don't even think the other remakes are worth talking about in a discussion about remakes because you get more out of playing Emerald and Platinum respectively. You don't get more out of playing Crystal or Yellow than you do of the remakes of their respective generation, conversely.
ORAS was awful tho. it destroyed any nostalgia of RSE
@@carolej339 i cant play hgss outside of difficulty hacks. the level curve really dunks on it.
@@Janinex98 What are you talking about oras was way better than the originals
@@sussexisalbania8959 emerald existed
After the disappointment of the past several years, BW remakes are where I decide whether or not I ditch the series unless Scarlett and Violet (plus future installment) completely rebuild my faith. At this point I'm just waiting for remake time to come around again in 4 years or whatever since I lost my white vers and don't want to spend 500% on eBay
Ditch it man you know it not going be good
I'm already feeling kinda meh on Scarlet and Violet. Yea it might be open world now but from the trailers it seems like they've went back to the archaic "running into pokemon and teleport to battle arena" thing which reaaally kills the immersion. Especially after playing a game where you just throw your pokenon out and the battle happens right there in the world. It's crazy how something so small can completely turn me off to the game. I mean you just did it, and no one can argue that it's not objectively better, why would you not just have that as a staple now? I don't get it. Gamefreak always taking one step forward and three steps back. I don't know how to feel about these new games. It's just meh.
Ditch it, unless you're a meme simp
emulators exist
@@TaqSoto Yea believe me I know how you feel I haven't felt excited for a Pokemon game in a looooong time! In fact the last Pokemon game I remember playing was Y but after seeing how poorly made and low quality the game's have been as of lately honestly I've just lost all interest. And I also agree with you on the whole game freak taking one step forward and three steps back thing, I mean a lot of things they discarded from previous game's I feel should've been kept in as a staple to the series. Following Pokemon, The VS Seeker, having a cell phone and having your mom being able to save some of your money for you while's out on your adventure, the mach and acro bike's, making your own secret base, Pokemon contest's, the battle frontier, The VS Recorder, triple battles, rotation battles, active in game season changes, an actual hard mode and mega evolution. Yup A LOT of stuff could've been kept in.
They'll probably do a Legends type game. Especially since gen 5 are the only games with sequels so i'd be weird if they just do BW and not also B2W2
Besides the 1st generation remakes, there is a pattern I have noticed
2•2=4. We got gen 2 remakes in gen 4
3•2=6. We got gen 3 remakes in gen 6
4•2=8. We got gen 4 remakes in gen 8
My theory is we will get gen 5 remakes in gen 10
Lmao
Hopefully. I prefer that over gen 9 so that it wouldn't be rushed.
Or instead of the remakes, they could make another Pokemon Legends game, this time with the original dragon that has been said in the Unova lore.
@@PlahaKumar I can respect that but I would honestly prefer sequels to black and white 2
@@Saffronmoon-sv2es ORAS remake of BW sounds good, updated Pokedex, and stuff. And the best thing is Mega for more unova pokemon
I want B&W3, if only to see Hilbert/Hilda finally reunite with N, and toss in Ingo getting back to Emmet while you're at it!
I really don’t know how they are going to replicate the feeling of Gen 5. It was peak 2D era. IMO the Gen 5 games have aged very well compared to Gen 4 and other games.
Pretty good video, but just as an FYI, they've had two internal teams for a while. Basically they have two teams for Pokémon and then a third team for their "GEAR project" stuff which is basically their indie stuff like Tembo the Badass Elephant for example. You can see that they've had two teams though given the timing of Gen 4+ releases though since BW came out only a year after HGSS, and a year is super short for a dev cycle, especially for a 3D game that does a fair amount of upgrades to the engine as well. Also, many might wonder why there are some regressions between releases there, like no following Pokémon for example, and part of that is from them being developed in tandem more or less. Looking inside of BW also shows some remainders from DP and nothing from HGSS also giving more evidence of the tandem development. I think the issue more is that their current three year cycle is too short for how much more effort is needed on bigger scale projects to get the same level of quality.
My guess is Gen 5 remakes come out a year after the Gen 10 games. "Pokemon Light Black and Pokemon Dark White, Available Worldwide November 18th, 2026."
Tragic as to how realistic this is LOL
I can see Pokémon Jet Black & Ivory White being the titles
It’s from the Ace Attorney PW games
I keep saying that. We’ll probably get Gen 5 remakes after Gen 10 on the next console.
My wishlist for Generation 5 Remakes would be only one, please reveal the true form of kyurem since kyurem only have two additional forms by absorbing the two other dragons, I mean come on, it’s obvious that kyurem is the original dragon because kyurem is said to be stronger than both of his counterparts and kyurem is missing the truth and ideals from his former complete body, so his body is completely frozen and now he’s a dragon/ice type, maybe in Pokémon Black and White Remakes or even Pokémon Black and White 3, they should reveal the true form of kyurem when kyurem is still the original dragon, and in this unified dragon form, kyurem is going to be a pure dragon type with an ability that boosts all dragon, ice, fire and electric type moves and in this form, kyurem is going to have the highest base stat total of all dragon types and the original unified dragon form of kyurem is going to be called unified kyurem or original kyurem, and in the movie even referred kyurem as the strongest dragon type pokemon, so that’s why We are 💯% sure that kyurem is the true original unified dragon. And kyurem needs a new item that allows kyurem to absorb both legendaries to become the true original dragon form of kyurem because kyurem is just so cool.
Knowing gamefreak conga dance of rushed garbage, I wouldn't be surprised if we got it next year
i think we should just get b&w 3
Honestly, I think that having Gen 5 remakes in the next 4 years should be bare minimum. That was peak pokemon for me, and probably mostly most us, and even the sequels associated with gen 5 even more. I would rather dlc after dlc after dlc just to delay it as much as possible for quality. I could care less if the national Dex comes back, but I know there are people that want that the most (sometimes). My point is, I just want a tad bit more time. I bought 1 copy of each games since diamond and pearl and that supports them, maybe a bit more differences besides literal night and day and a few pokemon. Maybe plot points, areas, and such. I always have enjoyed pokemon games, but a little more spice could go a long way
Fr like:
The gym leaders were actually memorable and were involved in the story.
The game felt complete and there were no game breaking features.
And it was overall a pretty cool game that really did a lot for Pokemon.
Yeah especially since Ingo was reintroduced into the story. It’d be nice to get a remake since not everyone knows who he was before PLA, but I would rather quality over them shoving it out as fast as they can.
Well dont compare future black and white games or black 2 white 2. They wont make it like gen 4 remakes dont worry, they won't make it chibi or faithful it's just for gen 4 remakes
Right. Receptions, reviews, and backlashes can make it easier for developers to fix issues.
I think that they let anothrr company make the game because gamefreak was busy with violet and scarlet and legends arceus, It is 2 big games and since gamefreak has a few developers i hope they did a more simple gen 4 remake. It had a lot of potential tho... it could be like oras and add gigantamax in the game aswell with open areas like sword and shield, and they could enhance characters, story, etc
This is Gamefreak they're going fk it up
Generation V was the last games to use chibis. X and Y made it full 3D. Even if they use the Gen 4 remakes' chibi style for the Gen 5 remakes to be faithful, they can't do it for Kalos without downgrading. With the reception of BDSP's chibi models and how they are one generation away from being done with remaking the sprite-styled games, I think the 3D chibi thing is going to be exclusive to the Sinnoh remakes.
The pattern seems like the remake comes after you double the number of the generation
Gen 2 remakes in Gen 4
Gen 3 remakes in Gen 6
Gen 4 remakes in Gen 8
Gen 5 remakes in Gen 10?
Next games are let's go johto for sure, but I agree I'm pretty worried about actual main series remakes. I hope they all get the oras treatment from here on out. Those were some good remakes.
Instead of doing remakes it would be so cool to get dlc in the main games where we can visit one of the old regions, just like in Crystal!
Like, going to Unova after finishing scarlet/violet
There is no way that'll happen ever again. Last time we had 2 regions in a game was 23 years ago( i don't count HGGS because they are remakes). And the second region had nothing to do in it other then get the gym badges. Don't get your hopes up.
They should make it that when you beat the bw remake it starts bw2 (you would be able to choose to go back and forth at the title screen) and they make your team at the end of bw into a superboss at the end of bw2
Remakes seem to follow two patterns: they’re on new hardware and they’re 1/2 the new Gen #. Besides Gen 1 being remade in Gen 3:
- Gen 4 had Gen 2 remakes
- Gen 6 had Gen 3 remakes
- gen 8 had gen 4 remakes
I think Gen 5 remakes will follow this pattern and will be part of Gen 10. Maybe Gen 9 gets a Let’s Go style Johto game 🤞
There's another way to interpret the pattern though: every gen gets a remake, two console generations later. The GB games got remakes on the GBA, the GBC games got remakes on the DS, the GBA games got remakes on the 3DS, and one set of the DS games so far has had a remake on the Switch. So I would say its even odds whether the Gen V games will be on the switch as well.
Lmao
What if Gen 5 was in the HD-2D art style like Octopath Traveler and Live a Live?
Fun in theory, not sure how that’d play out in motion, would LOVE to see a fan-made version of this though!
Very good points, one thing i really want if we re-visit Unova is to see the original unova dragon. Since Zekrom is my favorite Pokémon, and I like Reshiram a lot too, seeing the original dragon they came from would be awesome
I would love to see black and white 3 with new features and with modern day Pokémon features.
I mean, when they aren't being overseen by Game Freak/The Pokémon Company, ILCA has worked on stuff like Nier: Automata, Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Yakuza 0, and Dragon Quest XI, so I would guess that they weren't the primary reason why BDSP ended up like it did.
If we look at the trends, there has been an average of 2 generations between each remake, so I’m not expecting gen 5 remakes until gen 10
I’ve been convinced since announcement that PLA was originally meant to be the remakes. I also hope that a future “platinum” version will be released using PLA’s engine but I doubt that would happen.
I am pesemistically optimistic about the gen 5 remakes. I hope they turn out better than the gen 4 remakes did. I don't want to get my hopes up too high, but I just hope the gen 5 remakes turn out well. Fingers crossed!
If they do a Gen 5 remake, I would love for them to keep the difficulty feature that it has whether through unlock or get it from the beginning, allow us to turn off and on the exp share(or get rid of it entirely), a whole new story, and there's a lot of other stuff that I and other people want but would take too long to type out
gen 5 did have quite nice features with the battle train that many of us missed out on. With how accessible wi-fi is for everyone around the globe, it could be INCREDIBLE!
Imagine organizing tournament modes with ramdom trainers across the world!
I’ve been replaying my copy of White 2 over the past week, and I do feel it’s definitely way too soon for a gen 5 remake. If they’re going to be the same quality as the gen 4 remakes, nah. I’ll just go replay the originals instead of handing out $60 for a crumpled up and stepped on version of my childhood.
We need to at least get both the main game and sequels as base plus all events playable without Internet including dream training. One added things: Mega Evolutions and paradox Pokemon.
Ok i have a small formula i noticed for remakes, they always come out at the generation that is double the number of the original, except gen 1 but its the only exception
Gen 2 - Gen 4
Gen 3 - Gen 6
Gen 4 - Gen 8
Since pokemon is now releasing yearly, gen 9 is already confirmed for this year, Scarlet and Violet - Whatever Pokemon Does to Fill a Year(WPDtFaY) - WPDtFaY - Gen 10 main games - Gen 5 remakes or WPDtFaY
I put 3 games/dlc per gen because its what happened to gens 8 and 7, so 5 or 6 years if my prediction is correct, thats what i have for release date
I really hope we get both a B/W and B2/W2 in a same game, so as to have a continuous playthrough.
I can already read some of y'all commenting against it lol
Maybe the main game is BW1, but the team plasma storyline from BW2 becomes a Delta Episode type thing. And you can fight all the gym leaders somehow.
@@Stinkoman87 I see Game Freak doing that 😅
The remake release schedule has actually been extremely consistent. There's a new remake in the first generation on a new console (Gen 3 on GBA had FRLG, Gen 4 on DS had HGSS, Gen 6 on 3DS had ORAS, and Gen 8 on Switch had BDSP). I expect Gen 5 remakes on the Switch 2 or whatever.
What are the songs used in this video?
ILCA also seemes to get cut down by TPC. If you look at ILCAS Artwork for the GEN4 game, phew ... What a difference.
Gen 5 deserves A LOT! That map could be big and beautiful. That story! THAT STORY! Also, I ONLY want BW Pokémon in Gen 5, NO other Pokémon!
I grew up with pokemon when it started with red and blue. I love the pokemon franchise. What I don't like is how the games get easier and easier. I miss the challenge and the grind. It made u feel accomplished at the end of the game. Nowadays we have exp share that's automatic which I hate with a passion and easy trainers to fight. I remember when our red and blue rival battles even in johto was a little nerve wrecking cause they honestly weren't the easiest qt the time. That's the fun. I keep playing the new games but I never look forward to it like I used too. It also doesn't help that kids these days get there hands held with everything and aren't challenged cause God forbid we make something difficult and force the kid to actually think about it. This is all my opinion.
Fun fact, Gamefreak has one of the worst employee work schedules I’ve seen out of a Japanese game studio. Also pla and bdsp were both delayed because of Covid.
Not related to remakes but the only thing black an white was missing was Pokémon being able to follow you those triple battles wjere so hard
I've been saying this for years: Pokemon is a victim of its own success. The games are rushed out because they need there to always be something new. Something new to be turned into plushies, anime, trading cards, pyjamas, bed sheets, action figures etc etc etc. They've got their foot strapped to the accelerator and the brakes are broken. Even if the developers want to slow down and spend a couple years making a really good game, they can't because they need to pump out new content to support everything else.
I heard that originally Pearl and diamond was going to have all the features legends bad but they couldn’t make it work, so they separated those features into a second game instead? Which I think is incredibly fascinating and slots with what you said in the video!
Imagine if Bandai Namco made Gen V remakes. That would be amazing. Bandai Namco puts way more effort into Pokemon then anyone else
Most remakes have been really good so far, my point : fire red and leaf green, heartgold and soul silver, omega ruby and alpha sapphire
I don't want remakes for Gen 5. Despite it being my favorite generation, I don't feel like anything will do it justice. Ever.
No, no. What I'd like to see is a "continuation" of Legends where this time, it takes place in Unova. There's obviously quite a lot of lore that can be expanded on. In fact, one of the Gym Leaders is in a museum and library.
-Pokémon Legends: Kyurem pitch-
The game is set in Unova, thousands of years ago, during the quarrel between the 2 brothers over truth and ideals. Just like the Diamond & Pearl clans, there will be 2 sides during the main story. You will be able to side with truth or ideals during the climax.
Might add a rough story pitch here later.
I’m absolutely fine with Gen 5 getting the BDSP treatment because they are just really good games and the BDSP treatment didn’t really suit BDSP, but I bet it suits BW.
"Blow easy!"
*That can't be taken out of context at all /s*
I actually have a counter argument to the “no set pattern for remakes”.
Every set of remakes to come out thus far (besides FRLG/Let’s Go) has come out in the generation number that doubles their original generation of release (Gen2 remakes in gen 4, gen 3 remakes in gen 4, gen 4 remakes in gen 8, etc) so if we follow this pattern we’ll get gen 5 remakes as early as next gen. Still too early to say but I just thought I’d mention that.
upon a new console the devs also need to get used to working with said console's limitations, diamond/pearl were on the same console as b2w2, and the difference between those games is absolutely insane
my favorite thing about past remakes it how you saw older regions in new game engines, enhancing or giving a new spin on old regions
Gen 8 has a good battle system imo and the human models are actually pretty damn good so i was excited to see Sinnoh in 3D with those models etc but…no…we got a lazy “faithful” remake. I didn’t even care for ORAS but i loved seeing the world in the XY region, how Mega Evolution impacts the region, and everything else they introduced. It made it so that there were two unique ways to explore Hoenn.
I’d love to see them take as much time as possible with the bw/bw2 reimagining (or remake, but preferably the former). Gen 5 was my first dive into the series, and if waiting means I’m in a retirement home before it comes out, so be it.
I’d love to see Unova reimagined into an artstyle like X/Y (if they want it to be nostalgic) or a modern style like SV. I want to see Pokéstar studios come back, the PWC could have characters from games that came out after BW for added fanservice! Theres also the mini-beauty paegent that could (should) return as well. There is so much that the pkmn company needs to refine if everything that makes BW really special is to be added into the remakes, so if it takes 10+ years for “Blinding White” and “Void Black” to come out I don’t care. I just want Gen5 to get as much love as it can for everything that it came packed with.
Honestly we need to see the original dragon!!!! Kyurem need justice
How does necrozma get its two forms and completed form thru fake mega evolution and a Unique Z-Move ontop of that while
Kyurem gotta go white or black forms only
Also I would like the gen 5 games to have a new game plus mode
Where the first play through is white/Black then New game plus is Black/white 2
But the gyms are way higher level
So base game would be
Level 1 - level 50 (can’t go higher)
Then NG+ goes
Level 50 - level 100
Each playthrough has 50 levels.
And FULL NATIONAL DEX
ALL 900+ Pokémon IDGAF
doesn’t matter if I can catch them in game just as long as I can get them into the game thru home.
GMAX was ASS
X moves were decent
Megas are necessary now no exceptions
Bring them back
There really is a lot to potentially consider when it comes to revisiting Unova. I wouldn't be surprised if doing so would leave someone put off no matter what ends up happening. We could question which games to remake, could both get remade, or could it be some kind of composite? If it's B1W1, Do we keep the original Unova native only Dex or update to be more like sequels? What about the National dex? If the Unova base Dex is kept then the expedition that happens in the post game that leads directly into the B2W2 Dex should also be part of the game in some capacity and maybe even addressed directly as some kind of event. What things should be tampered with to smooth out the playthrough? I recently replayed Black version and feel like the distribution of the Pokemon in the Dex could of been better, the way we are prevented from entering the Dream Yard proper until after the first Gym isn't needed, and being able to explore that next route past just a bit would be nice. Those changes would go along way in helping players feel less railroaded and open up more options for the player in those early moments of the game and feel like perfectly valid things to do considering how options immediate explode in quantity by the 2nd to 3rd Gym.
Instead of remakes how about another sequel further in Unova's time line where we get to see the Unova change again thus completely dodging the above questions entirely? In such a scenario, should the original games get a kind of remaster with quality of life improvements? What mechanics should be brought over, is it possible to reimagine some instead using them whole sell, and could we see regional variants added in if the remake is of the sequels or is replaced with another new sequel. What about the idea of further emphasizing the changes in the original native Pokemon Unova brought on by the new additions to the population rather than how Regional variant show the other way around. This could provide a nice opportunity to create new native Pokemon to like Legends did for Sinnoh. Maybe now that Basculin has some environmental pressure it could regain it's evolution or gain new ones for each of the 2 forms.
Was the soup good??
Usum isn't just the same game again, it's like platinum and emerald but in 2 versions
My desired outcome of this inevitability would be a port of B/W/B2/W2 (maybe as a “Black and White” gimmick with B1/W2 on one release, and W1/B2 on the other) and followed up with a B3/W3 release. That way, even if the threequals are rushed and not great, it’s at least not destroying the original and adds more onto the lore in general
I think part of the problem is that Pokémon has just gotten to big for Gamefreak. They are forced to create the games in short time to match with everything else to Pokémon, such as the TCG. They get rushed, and only get focus on things that will make them sell better. It's unfortunate.
I don't even think Black and White need remakes. They still hold up to this day and have minimal flaws. Maybe give Unova more attention by giving it a "Legends" game. I would hate to see Pokemon going full Disney by remaking original products that don't need one.
I'd love if they remake B/W. They are my favorite Pokemon games. But if they mess it up... I will be super disappointed. I want it like the FF7 remake. Take the story and worlds, and expand on them.
I'm very skilled at picking up on persona 5 music being used, and there was the music that plays in safe rooms at 3:55 or so
Right but what if we got a legends style remake instead
I can agree that BDSP were mediocre remakes. I enjoyed them and had fun, but, I think my praise was focused more on my experience with the League and all the rematches. I hope the Unova remakes add in Basculegion with new Colors for both formes. I also want more Non-Unova Pokémon available in the main story like early access to Shinx via game data that gives you access to places like Galar/ IoA/ CT for Sword/ Shield, Sinnoh for BDSP and Obsidian Fieldlands with PLA. How the Fieldlands would work in Unova remakes, maybe a Dialga is present in Castelia City that takes you to Hisui? I dunno. Maybe for each game, certain Pokémon are available each day in BW/ BW2 Remakes?
Galar could cycle through Pokémon from Kalos onward, Sinnoh could cycle through stuff Kanto to Hoenn and Hisui would give access to Hisuian Formes and Sinnoh Pokémon. Meaning if you want a team consisting of Hisuian Samurott, Luxray, Klefki, Gengar, Lycanroc and Ursaluna, you can. Of course, you'd be given the Hisuian Pokéballs in Hisui and battle your Hero character in Jubilife Village using the team Arceus was beaten with.
Honestly it often times feels like video game developers now want to just sell a product (and yes I know there main focus is always it make money but still) and not make an enjoyable experience/form of art….
So something ive noticed when it comes to remakes is they remake the gen when the number is double. So gen 2 during gen 4, gen 3 during gen 6, gen 4 during gen 8, and gen1 when ever they want money. So gen 5 probably during gen 10 if they continue with this streak
Going of of the pattern of remakes coming out in the generation double theirs, gen 2 in gen 4, gen 3 in gen 6, and recently gen 4 in gen 8, I believe we are going to get gen 5 remakes whenever generation 10 is realesed
Honestly i really don't want them to mess up gen5 because of remakes
but
if by any chance they revisit unova as a sequel or prequal and not as a remake, i really want them to make the original legendary dragon that reshiram, zekrom, and kyurem split off from since they never really elaborated upon it's original form
What do you think the gen 5 remakes will be called? Im thinking Jet Black and Smoke White
My wishlist for Generation 5 Remakes would be only one, please reveal the true form of kyurem since kyurem only have two additional forms by absorbing the two other dragons, I mean come on, it’s obvious that kyurem is the original dragon because kyurem is said to be stronger than both of his counterparts and kyurem is missing the truth and ideals from his former complete body, so his body is completely frozen and now he’s a dragon/ice type, maybe in Pokémon Black and White Remakes or even Pokémon Black and White 3, they should reveal the true form of kyurem when kyurem is still the original dragon, and in this unified dragon form, kyurem is going to be a pure dragon type with an ability that boosts all dragon, ice, fire and electric type moves and in this form, kyurem is going to have the highest base stat total of all dragon types and the original unified dragon form of kyurem is going to be called unified kyurem or original kyurem, and in the movie even referred kyurem as the strongest dragon type pokemon, so that’s why We are 💯% sure that kyurem is the true original unified dragon. And kyurem needs a new item that allows kyurem to absorb both legendaries to become the true original dragon form of kyurem because kyurem is just so cool.
I personally think that they are gonna skip black and white or not give them a fully fledged remake and more something like a legends game and make X and Y remakes or sequels connected to violet and Scarlett bc of the geographical proximity
The remakes absolutely do have a pattern. It’s (current gen)/2 = the gen to receive a remake.
E.g.
HGSS (4th gen) 4/2=2 original johto came out in gen 2
ORAS 6th gen 6/2=3 hoenn came out in gen 3
BDSP 8th gen 8/2=4 sinnoh came out in gen 4
Following this trend we can expect unova games in gen 10
I'm scared but excited. My childhood is coming full circle. Most hours logged into any generation ever for me. Gen 3 and it's remakes are a close 2nd. But gen v is un beatable for replayability
Unova on the gen 10 engine will be great no matter how they slice it
If they remake Pokémon black & white then they gotta give us the original dragon. Rashiram + Zekrom + kyrem = ?
In my opinion, i would think that idealistically to have BW/BW2 ports to the switch and a legends type game. I think that with BW2, they wrapped up the region’s story pretty nicely and a BW3 would probably be more iffy and shoehorned in for lore. A legends type game would be perfect for lore expansion and a chance to see the original dragon.
Idk I think another pattern to the remakes is the remake always come out once the initial generation is doubled. Gen 1 kinda had a remake in gen 2 with Kanto’s inclusion, gen 2 remakes came out in gen 4, Gen 3 remakes in 6, and Gen 4 remakes in 8. I’m almost 100% sure we’ll see Gen 5 remakes in Gen 10.
Lmao
Honestly I don’t think they need remakes at all. I love the aesthetic of gen 5 way more then the current games and I wish the gen 3 remakes had come out during gen 5 so we could’ve gotten gen 5 aesthetic Hoenn. Also I’m terrified of a remake especially after the horrible Sinnoh remakes…..
A interesting thing I've noticed happening with the remakes (not saying it is a pattern) is other then the gen 1 remakes it's like they take the current generation and then they divide by 2 for what remake lines up where. So 2 and 4, 3 and 6, and then 4 and 8. Sorry if I worded it poorly, I don't know if I explained it well 😅
Hey I would be excited for a Gen 5 remake if they make it one of these days, it would be cool if they add both Black&White and Black&White2 areas in the game, and Kyurem Fusion.
btw, your new background music is nice. which was the jazzy banger you used to have?
Not sure which one you mean, but I’ll probably end up using it again
I mean there is a pattern if you count out the gen 1 remakes. Gen 2 remakes came with Gen 4, then Gen 3 remake came with Gen 6. And you guessed it Gen 4 remakes came with generation 8 so im guessing Gen 5 remakes will come with Generation 10.
This issue with gen 5 now after the release of gen 9 is that they either need to go the legends route for gen 5 or scarlet Violet route with gen 5. I don’t think they will go the same route as bdsp with black & white but how can they go anywhere with it the game has evolved past making a remake as it would require going straight to the redrawing board.
I just know if they remake Sun and Moon, it BETTER be Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon.
Yeah. Generation 7 is one of the Best Generations of Pokémon. A Remake of it WOULD BE AWESOME.
My wishlist for Generation 5 Remakes would be only one, please reveal the true form of kyurem since kyurem only have two additional forms by absorbing the two other dragons, I mean come on, it’s obvious that kyurem is the original dragon because kyurem is said to be stronger than both of his counterparts and kyurem is missing the truth and ideals from his former complete body, so his body is completely frozen and now he’s a dragon/ice type, maybe in Pokémon Black and White Remakes or even Pokémon Black and White 3, they should reveal the true form of kyurem when kyurem is still the original dragon, and in this unified dragon form, kyurem is going to be a pure dragon type with an ability that boosts all dragon, ice, fire and electric type moves and in this form, kyurem is going to have the highest base stat total of all dragon types and the original unified dragon form of kyurem is going to be called unified kyurem or original kyurem, and in the movie even referred kyurem as the strongest dragon type pokemon, so that’s why We are 💯% sure that kyurem is the true original unified dragon. And kyurem needs a new item that allows kyurem to absorb both legendaries to become the true original dragon form of kyurem because kyurem is just so cool.
I hope they just don’t remake them. Black and White are my favorite Pokémon games and after playing bdsp gen 4 left a horrible taste in my mouth to the point where I don’t even wanna see platinum. I really don’t trust game freak with this and I hope they just pour all their resources on a legends style game for gen 5 and we at most get a port of this game. Part of its charm is the animated sprites which will just be lost on a remake anyway. I’d rather get a port of a good game and a not rushed, shitty looking legends experience than another bdsp and a rushed legends game.
A pattern that I've noticed with Pokemon remakes is that they always are made in the generation that's double of their own (Gen 1 excluded of course) I mean think about it. Gen 2 remakes came out in Gen 4, Gen 3 remakes came out in Gen 6 and the Gen 4 remakes came out in Gen 8. I feel like I'm the only one who sees the pattern.
If Pokémon has taught me anything, it’s to *not* look for patterns honestly.
Game freak does have 2 teams! It’s been confirmed. They have a team of experienced devs and new devs. The new devs were put on legends and the experienced ones on gen 9 while ilca did remakes.
If they end up being anything like BDSP I'm fvckin crying
Also pls be BW2 remakes
Being excited that Gamefreak will actually properly utilize new switch hardware is like being excited for world hunger ending.
Since Gen 5 created Fusion it would only make sense that the entire team should work on it we care more about making a proper Gen 5 remake then we do about any new gen
Something I have learned from being part of the Pokémon Community for the last 15 years is that the fans will find something to bitch about NO MATTER WHAT.
Gen 1: BeSt ThInG eVeR (genwunners)
Gen 2: Too many babies!
Gen 3: Too much water!
Gen 4: HP bar too slow!
Gen 5: Where are all the old Pokémon?!
Gen 6: Game too EZ >:(
Gen 7: Z-Moves DUMB!
Gen 8: #Dexit!!
Fans require perfection and will screech when it's not perfect to them.
My prediction for when we get gen 5 remakes has been gen 10 for awhile now. My reasoning for this is because, aside from fire red and leaf green which released with gen 3, all the remakes have release with the gen that is twice their own. Heart good and soul silver were apart of 4, ORAS was gen 6, and gen 4 was paired with 8.
sorry about the soup :( I have no idea what to think about gen 5 remakes because those are the games that I grew up with.
An interesting pattern is that we tend to get remakes on every even numbered generation, with extra games on the odd ones. If this pattern is intentional, it may be why we never got pokemon z in gen 6 (although maybe we can get it in gen 12)
I think the two teams dynamic at GameFreak is actually really good as a software developer myself at a certain point a teams becomes to large and it feels clunky to work with the others. Sure with a good management it can work, but there is a reason why most beloved games in the past years were created by small teams consisting of old and new developers. Communication is easier and the mix of old developers and their experience and new developers bringing in new methods is really good. But there are two things I think that hold GF back, the first one is the lack of new and young developers they have some but they seem to prefer to stick to the old teams, the other problem I see is there game engine. If what I read is true every Pokemon game on the Switch is being run on a modified 3DS engine, which they adjusted and ported to the Switch. This limits their games by alot and is the reason they graphics aren't what we expect. This is also were the second team could come in clutch. They should simply start developing a new engine based on an already existing one from Nintendo. Sure it's alot of work but it will benefit the whole company. This would mean that while they developing this engine the other team would need to develop DLC for the current game but that shouldn't be a problem. But I think GF is to lazy. They will probably wait for the next console and do it.
ILCA is busy with One Piece Odyssey right now and I would say it looks better than BDSP let's hope they treat One Piece with care. As for Pokemon Legends Arceus to me that felt like the real deal Gen 4 remake if anything I can see Gen 5 getting the same treatment and hype up Pokemon Legends treatment with the original dragon. But if anything after Gen 9 we will most likely see Gen 2 remakes considering after Gen 4 we got those ans hoping since Pokemon Legends Arceus sold well I really want it to become a series itself. But if ILCA gets to remake Gen 5 hoping GameFreak would give them more creative freedom because in the concept art from ILCA it seems like they were going all out but then Masuda stepped in to keep it safe and I don't Masuda the man is doing his job.
Concept art is not indicative of a final product. BDSP was always going to be the way it was which I think is fine tbh
That is not what happened with the art and Masuda. We need to stop spreading that rumor
Games change during development all the time so I would imagine the concept art orginally was gonna take it to a Platinum direction but then they decided to go to the original Diamond and Pearl direction Masuda wanted that to happen but like I said he was in charge of the remakes a lot of passionate Pokemon Fans tend to hate on Masuda they see him as the guy that ruined Pokemon but to me I see him as a awesome dude that is passionate about Pokemon as well,I'm not blaming Masuda the guy is a genius when it comes to music he created some of the best in the Pokemon series not to mention he also directed Gen 5 as well. The concept art isn't a rumor Johto Jonny did a video on the Concept Art of what the gen 4 remakes were originally once different but basically yes they change that's how it is for game development.
@@FTChomp9980 but like I said concept art is not indicative of the product and it was always gonna be DP remakes - third versions are never remade. Masuda does deserve more respect though
@@FTChomp9980 Johto Johnny had no evidence for that claim. I love him and his discussions and analysis, but that claim about the concept art wasn’t true at all. Even the art book itself says differently. He was trying to figure out why BDSP wasn’t done better and looking for a way to blame Masuda because he doesn’t like Masuda.
He even says Arceus was so good because Masuda wasn’t involved when that is demonstrably incorrect.
You would think one of the greatest franchises EVER would take more pride in their output! ✊🏾😤