Meteor | The new-generation air-to-air missile
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- The missile to dominate future air combats, We are investigating the Meteor. #meteor #missile #mbda
Why is there a need for a highly capable air-to-air missile like the Meteor?
How would the missile affect future air combat?
What are the advantages of the Meteor over its current counterparts?
What new opportunities does the missile offer to the European defence industry?
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Can europe make an antisattelitte weapon? For example a big missile for rafales instead of fuels. Can they ? For example a big missile for rafales or any eurojet instead of fuel tanks. The idea is simple, jets can go anywhere fast and sattelites CANT change their velocity much! The first strike nowdays is to put the enemy sattelites down fast. If europe makes such a weapon a bigger 'meteor 2' with trigonic final phase they can become a strong option in global market vs US
I believe the missle, thanks to the new engine configuration, has the ability to loiter in an area and engage targets autonomously, long after the fighter that launched it departed the area.
This opens up many interesting tactical options, for one a mid-air ambush could be created.
Next thing you know they can fly back to a tanker to get refuelled, imagine a sight like that, a missile being refuelled
@@Hexigonic to be fair that's what drones do, especially as they are stealthy now.
@@Hexigonic it solid fuel so I kind of doubt they can refill it.
But the neutron plattform, that is sort of a slave fighter can do that. The point wirh the neuron is that it flyes in formation with something like a gripen with a extra set of missiles.
Not even remotely. It's got a longer burn time than a regular solid rocket motor, but it's nowhere near what you are suggesting
@@Hexigonic refuel?? That missile flies at Mach 4! I really don't think so.
As for the missile's radar can detect targets less than 1m², very modern radar could do that given close enough range, though Meteor's probably even better than previous missiles
Could it detect 0.0001 square meters?
@@Milvus_In_Excelsis maybe from 5-6 kms instead of 20-30kms for 4 and 4.5 gen aircraft
@@anishdynamo at 5 to 6 km who is it still able the fly at that point? It would get killed.
@@Milvus_In_Excelsis It's formula between long range detection search circle and the missile pinpoint aiming on the target, if the long range detecting radar (e.g from the attack aircraft ) had detecting circle of around 5 KM then is't still can guide the missile to the right direction before he start relining on it own radar.
Even if detecting circle were wider having such missile chasing you from distance will make the aircraft busy dodging it from distance this will make it neural in the battle and can't do it role in the battle(e.g attacking base airfield )
Meteor has no rival when it comes down to Air to Air missiles
The aim-260 would love to talk to you.
@@freddarau It is just a project, while there are already dozens of meteors sold in the market, if not more.
The Chinese and Pakistanis are saying PL15 is better. What would be your opinion on it?
@@freddarau AIM-260 is achieving its extra range by going larger and heavier than the 7inch diameter of the Meteor/AIM 120, consequently aircraft will be able to carry fewer of them.
@@freddarau Not in service yet, but maybe soon?
An excellent, very informative video on a wide range of aviation items related to the Meteor! Thank you for keeping my interest going throughout the video. Sometimes videos start strong and then flame-out. Yours was the opposite of that...
Thanks for your nice comment
@@WeaponDetective Did France eventually agree to sell meteor missiles to Egypt?
For you personal information
MBDAN 1 is an industrial company in the aeronautics, space and armaments industry, European leader in the design of missiles and missile systems.
It is a joint subsidiary of Airbus (37.5%), BAE Systems (37.5%) and Leonardo (25%) 3.
MBDA employs around 11,000 people spread across France (5,050 people), the United Kingdom (3,500 people), Italy (1,350 people), Germany (1,200 people), Spain (30 people). ) and the United States (50 people).
In 2018, the company announced a turnover of 3.2 billion euros with a portfolio of 17.4 billion euros and an order intake of 4.0 billion euros3; it is the second in the world missile market behind the missile division of Raytheon (4.2 billion) 4 and ahead of those of Lockheed Martin (2.3 billion) and Rafael Advanced Defense Systems (500 million) 5.
Thank you mate, really informative 👍
Thanks for uneasy-to-understand, professionally produced military video. This category of missiles is where the US is playing catch-up to Europe, Russia and especially China.
What’s uneasy to understand about it?
This channel need more attention.
Nice video with clear explaining of Metore missile in dogfight aircrafts used (air-air) strike with clear explaining its history producing and countries participating in this project which increases its abilities too nice channel in clearly explaining of weapons characters thanks
Love your vids keep it up
Good video 📹 👍
As long as the plane is capable, the missile is the most important thing.
The french prononciation of "Rafale" is not "Raphael" (the renaissance painter) but "Ra Fa L" with the ending "e" that is silent. The "...ale" is prononced as in "decimal" or "minimal".
Anyway, very interesting video. Thanks !
its very irritating for non french speakers when to pronounce an e or not :D
thank you Rafael
I just want to add a little correction, the "-ale" sound is not the same one as "decimal" and "minimal" where the "a" is muted. It's actually more similar to the pronunciation of "all", so you would pronounce it Raf - all.
@@thomasbessis2809 i'ts correct
@@thomasbessis2809 yes and it s not like it is impossible to have the proper way to pronounce it ;-)
Moreover I agree with you, it is enough a common error you will see basically on almost 50% maybe even more, videos ... so none French speakers, this is the way : www.google.com/search?q=Rafale+google+translate&rlz=1C1GCEB_enBE950BE950&sxsrf=ALeKk02DK77ktqRDYMfELhXrDWs3UoTf3A%3A1621932064337&ei=ILisYO6SFLWAjLsP3cqu2Ac&oq=Rafale+google+translate&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBAgjECcyBggAEBYQHjoHCCMQsAMQJzoHCAAQRxCwA1DeE1ibFWDqHGgBcAJ4AIABVYgB-wGSAQEzmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpesgBCcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjuoq3kt-TwAhU1AGMBHV2lC3sQ4dUDCA4&uact=5
Good piece.
Great video! And interesting choice in background music....
Meteor is my one of the favourite air to air missiles 😍😍😍😍
Do you even have that in your force?
@@mnd7381yes india have it. As we bought Rafales.
@@NeerajKumar-qv4hg I saw he's Bangladeshi. They don't have those in the air force. India bought probably from our EU nations
@@NeerajKumar-qv4hg India only buys things
Very informative and well illustrated video about this advanced missile.
Protip : Rafale is pronounced like Raf-Al (the french combat aircraft), not Ra-fa-el (Israelian weapon's manufacturer)
The answer to high off bore angle, active seeking, highly networked missiles with almost 100% interception rate, is to saturate the airspace with attritable launch and sensor platforms. UAVs will do the heavy lifting of future air operations. The question is, can you make them so cheap, that you could maintain squadron strength in contested airspace for the time of a whole peer to peer campaign?
Best answer is to refit gen 2/3 and old gen 4 fighters with INS and other avionics packages to be a "poor man's drone". These old airframes (think Panavia Tornado, early F-16, Mirage 3, F-4) will essentially be on a 1 way trip as missile sponges to absorb enemy missile inventory. You can then use other raids composed of high end fighters, missiles etc to come in behind these sacrificial airframes to hit the targets in enemy territory.
@@richardmartin8998 you do realise that modern fighters also have 30mm cannons right?
Cheap drones which would cost less than a meteor missile are for sure subsonic, there are drones as slow as 200km/h which is slower than an attack helicopter.
Shooting down such a target can be very cost effective with a gun run.
For the old fighters being the "poor man's drone" you need to consider the pilot. As stated in the video training of a skilled pilot can be more expensive than a 4th gen fighter itself.
In case for a plane to be cheaper than a meteor it would need to be a very, very old plane, even an f4 costs more than just a missile. Considering any missile on the f4 the price goes up.
Sending low skill pilots (as it was done during WW2) to fight enemy jets can go very wrong very fast. A low skill pilot with limited weapons (probably no weapons since its just a target for the enemy meteors) can be dealt with mica or even a gun run with the 30mm gun which are far cheaper than a meteor.
For example, an f16 would cost around 10-20million, adding fuel and the pilot training the price can easily go up to 30million. A meteor only costs 2million.
Finaly, you need to consider the morale. A low skill pilot having to deal with meteor armed jets would probably chicken out even if he is sent to die. Its not only a lower skill pilot which already drops his morale, he is outgunned or not armed at all.
the missile that shot down an amraam in mid-flight in a test above the north sea . imagine that
didnt knew that.
never knew that - I know a Sea Wolf hit a 4.5" shell once but I can't find any reference to an Amraam intercept.
Wouldn't be surprised since AMRAAM has a very predictable flight path with limited maneuvering capabilities after its short duration burn runs out.
What's really surprising is that it hasn't been replaced sooner, I guess it's harder to make a missile than the fighter that launches it.
@@MrBabylon you really believe that the US still using amraams? Us only unclassified stuff that's 30 years old and out of service.
@@freddarau nonsense.
Decent missile for the RAF to have, it's an extremely capable weapon that will benefit both the Typhoon and the new F-35.🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
I agree with you
Pretty sure the meteor doesnt fit inside the F-35s weapons bay. But it could carry it on the wings, but that makes the F-35 alot less stealthy.
@@zoom5024 it fits the air to ground internal pylon but not the air to air due to it having bigger fins than amraam , a modified version is being worked on so it can be fully integrated on the f35’s block 4 update. Also U.K. and Japan are working on a version with an aesa seeker for Japans f35’s
@@zoom5024 I'm fairly certain that it can be fired from a typhoon at extreme range, and be guided in by a much closer F-35 using Data Link.
Therefore the F35 doesn't need a 'dirty' configuration with externally held missiles to be lethal
Similar to how a forward observer stays stealthy to guide in the big guns on the ground.
@@jmcgaminghov9994 The F35 might as well use a slammer then !
Seems like the Meteor would be a great candidate for surface to air missile system like the NASAMS that utilize the AMRAAM.
this is really a badass missile.
Just bought a few now all I need is a manual and a 5th generation super manouverable air superiority fighter!
It's so good it's almost unfair.
Welcome brother
In 2 sec to Mach 2, whoa
Я полагаю, что ракета, благодаря новой конфигурации двигателя, имеет возможность зависать в районе и поражать цели автономно еще долгое время после того, как истребитель, запустивший ее, покинул этот район.
Это открывает много интересных тактических возможностей, например, может быть создана воздушная засада.
We never get to see the missiles hit :/
Nice video guys, thanks for posting.
Instead of only flares and chaff for defense against missiles, the fighter should also carry short range anti-missile missiles that can shoot forward and aft.
Is it me or are our Chinese brothers becoming a little bit too cocky?
Excellent video. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the long-range benefits get negated in many cases by 'low risk' Rules of Engagement that require visual target identification before launch
The same with stealth as F-15 pilots had to get within 20 km so not to shoot down F-117
@@Karl-Benny Also worry about noncombatants. In the Vietnam War, neutral UN observer aircraft had to be accounted for, among other problems.
With advanced IFF and no-fly zones that can be worked around.
Metoor have a system where the engagemang can be reconfirmed. It would not be that hard to send a photo of the target.
You had me at the point where u said that sweden and germany have a part in its dev. Lethality guaranteed.
That's bang for the buck
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The meteor knows where it is
The meteor just need a taxi driver
Aren't there proposals to give the Meteor a new warhead and passive seeker to make an anti radiation version?
I dont believe anyone is working on a Anti-Radiation version though its functionality that could be added. Japan is working on a new missile that marries their AAM-4B's seeker to a Meteor body so that it will fit in the internal bay of the F-35, Britain might see that as a possible upgrade if it improves performance as they are currently doing a missile conversion kit to allow Meteor to fit as well (have to reduce the fins to fit). The advantage of the Japanese radar is its compactness which might offer some range/weight improvements.
You may be thinking of Germany's ARMIGER program which was cancelled. It did have intakes for air breathing rocket.
hey dude, where are you from. your accent comes very familiar
Some inaccuracies but mostly good.
Must come from an american
Yet, curiously, it doesn't have the AIM54-Phoenix. A fifty year-old system.
Was that smoke trail from meteor in the beginning of video. If that was the case, then that is considered a weakness.
To my understanding the mix of fhe fuel change when it burns throu it. Early on its high on oxidizer, then its reduced more and more, then after a while there is verry little or non at all.
Impressive!
Can they develop , double the range as needed by US Navy , n many other navies to replace the Phoenix? Also air to surface for SEAD? Also booster n surface launch as Seasparrow replacement?,
European countries aren’t allowed to bid for US Missile contracts. Not even the U.K.
@@jugganaut33 Talk about NATO , SEATO , Five Eyes n QUAD shooting themselves in the foot!
Yet ships , aircraft can be tendered in partnership with USA companies!
Can you do a video on the RBS15 Gungnir
Thanks for your interest. We have added the RBS-15 to our list. We will make the video as soon as possible.
Make video on pl 15
I wonder if surface-to-air version will be developed?
Is the surface to air Aim? Agm ? No there isn't
No there won't lol do know much about this do you
@@shaundavidssd well, the early AMRAAM was used as a SAM and that must have had a much shorter range than the meteor
@@shaundavidssd You can not put a patriot on a humvee....
It need a radar relay radio...and that need to be in range. That relay pretty much have to be airborn due to the curvature of the earth. Of cause you could technicaöly engage vety high targets, but if they dive tou would lose secondary radar contact
Just the job for giving an enemy's arse a splitting headache.
Hope Indonesia also purchase it when the Rafales starts coming!
Datalink, interesting, so you can hack all the missiles :D
If you are a fast hacker!
That's exactly that Electronic Warfare System is for, genius. That, maneuvering and flares+chafs is how a jet dodges a missile else it almost impossible to dodge/evade a missile which is coming at you with 4X speed.
Meteor dual Datalink works with Eurofighter Typhoon and Gripen C. Not that other aircraft...
An episode on the new AIM-260 would be a nice compliment to this video.
The AIM-260 isn't even done yet, lol.
Like that ever stopped a vid maker from doing an in-depth development piece...:)
@@randybentley2633 It's not done yet and in depth video of AIM-260 JATM is not possible. Not only it is yet to see outer world, the details of target specs is highly classified. You can barely find anything via open research. Some sources say it's capable of 350 kms, some say it's capable of 200 kms. Lmao
Just picture a pie.
In the sky.
and put a $2B price tag on it.
@@nucleargandhi101 About the only thing we know is it has double the range of the AIM-120 (since they doubled the size of the air-target testing range) and its achieving its extra range performance via being larger in diameter than the 7 inch Meteor/AIM-120 (Meaning its likely an F-35 will only be able to carry two rather than four internally).
Please note that the French "Rafale" aircraft prononciation in english is not "Rafael" (which is a human name) but instead "RAFAL" to avoid confusions.
France produit ☝️🤙
No, France, U.K., Italy, German, Swedish, product.
Developed by the UK alone at first then later other nations like France & Germany joined the project. The UK is the development leader 39.6%, Germany 16%, France, 12.4%, Italy 12%, Sweden/Spain 10% each. The design programme was completed by UK's MoD through the Integrated Project Team (IPT) on behalf of the partner nations. MBDA which is a European multi-national was chosen as the prime-contractor for production of the missiles but over 250 companies from across Europe were involved in making components.
The MBDA Meteor is a long-range air-to-air missile produced by a European consortium of MBDA, Airbus and Saab Bofors Dynamics.
parallel to the development of range of the BVRAAM in their ranges how much IFF system become efficient & sophisticted by now ? it is a well known fact that all BVRAAMs work in close coordination with the IFF system for right identification of enemy aircraft .
Yeah, just that IFF isn't often used in war, because it gives you away. From, i think now 8 AIM-120 BVR kills, was one friendly fire.
is this only ram jet air to air missile? since ram jets are used for more than 40 years for some missiles its so weird not to use it for air to air missiles too
its not a ramjet its a ducted rocket
@@Gui1The its a ducted rocket ramjet... so its effectivly both
The only system i know of what so ever thst been in active service using a ram jet is the bloodhound. And those misiles are huge. And the range is shorter.
Cast spell: Meteor: Final Fantasy reference.
Are you Swiss? I am. I was responsible for the ammunition surveillance of all missiles in Switzerland.
As one of the development goals of the METEOR was to be compatible with the AMRAAM launchers, I suggest to compare it to the AIM-120 C and not to bigger missiles. Thanks!
Damn bro calm down u can be a little nicer to content creators :/
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3:22 The aircraft is called "Rafale" ( pronounced "Raff-ahl" - the french word meaning a gust of wind or a machine-gun burst), not "Rafael" the bibblical name.
Well the Typhoon and Rafael only campare to the earliest Gripen A/B. C/D and especially E/F is much harder to compare to.
Rafale*
It's a MiG Killer....let's hope it NEVER is shot at one, but if it does, I'm sure it'll hit and hit hard
This smells like a modern slammer!👍🦧🥱😈⚙🔩🔧🏍🏎🚀🛸🪂👻😉
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To say it looks promising,keeping in mind technology has become a thing if the future.I,m am curious though how will they stop the Chinese laser system ,from blinding and disabling are satellites.I,m curious to know ,could they come up with some kind of mirror system that would reflect it back .I guess it,s simple to say technology has become vital.Another curiosity China ran a simulated program, with missles 30 times faster then the speed of sound .Wondering how will these missles compare with that.!
Speed is about altitude. Is the altitude is just sufficently high you can go at any speed. You cant go at mach 30 at 50 000 fwet then what ever doing thst will burn up. The space shuttle do about mach 24 on reentry and it is both sheelded and have a very carefull renetry plan. If you cut down to fast you just burn
Well. I hope Finnish F-35's will have Meteor, AIM-260 JATM, CUDA and/or Peregrine, HARM, JASSM ER etc...
If you compare the Meteor with the American AIM-120 AMRAAM, wich one would be better??
Do the newness of the missile you have to compare to the aim 260, or the aim 54. Very long range AA missile.
@@freddarau You can't compare the Aim-54 with it - it's too heavy and too outdated.
@@emhyrvaremreis4540 the aim54 is a quite modern missile, the same range and speeds as a meteor, the reason it was mentioned because it was one of two long-range air-to-air missile platforms the US has developed.
@@freddarau The rocket is old. In addition, the Meteor has a ramjet and is significantly more manoeuvrable and lighter.
@@EmperorLionflame your point? Ram jets were made in the 50s by the US, the meteor is old tech in a new missile. And no, the Russian r-37 would clap the fuck out of the meteor. Twice the range and at mach 7.
rafale is best jet for meteor missile :D
No, it's not. The Typhoon has better thrust to weight, it can fly higher & faster, meaning it can "throw" the missiles further.
It's Rafale not Rafael. It's Rafale not Rafael. It's Rafale not Rafael. It's Rafale not Rafael. It's Rafale not Rafael.
Thanks for clearing that up
It's missile, not missle
@@marsupiomarsupi4421 Rapheal is an Isreali company.
@@kdrapertrucker no h in that company's name
India said that there missile will be on par or better. If I know Indians correctly there missild is going to beat the Meteor.
Highly doubt it. They'll try, and they definitely would want it, but India is still decades behind the Europeans when it comes to pretty much every type of military weaponry. From submarines to tanks, from airplanes to missiles, and from radars to drones.
Cold War is not war. It is a huge business and advertisement campaign.
New?
Achilles heel of the meteor is it's price. It costs around €2,000,000 and given the fact that pilot usually needs to shoot two missiles to get s high kill percentage it becomes very expensive proposition.
Geez u can buy a nice nice plane for 2 mill euro
The unit price isn't fixed. It will decrease as production increases and returns-to scale are realised. The UK has already started early integration studies with the F-35 (the missile fits nicely into the internal bays.) The market for this missile via F-35 and 6th-gen range is going to be huge - as the video here notes. It's early days for the missile and the platforms. The price will only come down over time.
The Meteor still costs a lot less than a fighter jet. Even the relatively cheap cold-war era fighters.
@Bessie Hillum First - the range depends on a ton of things, like how high was it launched (higher launch -> less drag -> more range), how fast the plane was moving at launch (more speed -> more range), how high the target it (diving into denser air -> less range), how fast it is moving (if the missile needs to catch up with a faster target it must throttle up, meaning more drag and less range). Sometimes the best case scenario is given (launched at max altitude and speed, to a stationary or slowly approaching target). A single number is not very useful. Even less if we assume the target will maneuver. But official data is: range more than 100 km, no escape zone 60km.
Second - you can bet real parameters are classified. I don't have them, and you are unlikely to get them online.
With all that said, Meteor uses a more efficient propulsion than other missiles, as it uses atmospheric air as work fluid. It is also more flexible, able to change throttle and this trade speed for range or the other way around. It should have longer burn time, so be less vulnerable to target evading. I would say that in equal situations the Meteor would have better performance than other missiles of its class. After all, this was the design goal when the program started.
Perhaps there are some missiles that have longer range, some of the Russian/Chinese designs are very long ranged, but they are 6 times heavier, can't be carried internally, and are mostly targeting slow moving aircraft like tankers and AWACS.
@Bessie Hillum What a silly comment. The pound isn't doing too great either since Brexit, in fact the Euro is doing a lot better in relationship... Which still doesn't change the fact that the Meteor is a very expensive missile, as is almost always the case with the latest and greatest weapons.
What a puny missile.
The Range is 200km.
...lookks like the French nuclear missile...
Good observation. The Meteor looks quite similar to the ASMP.
Great video. I think Turkey should acquire some Eurofighter and Meteor to balance the Greek Rafales.
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Is it comparable to Aim120D /260.
Aim260 in theory must be better weapon than meteor, the use of ramjet doesnt mean better performance🙉😅
😂😂😂Is only a logic thing. The country with most experience and knowledge in aa missiles, is developing a new product. I suppose must be better thing that all in the air actually. Anyway maybe you know more that all the classified info about aim260🙉🙉😂😂😂
Not agree😂🙉
@@EmperorLionflame America put cost and simplicity over kinematics. The 260 complements American doctrine better than the meteor, you will likely see each country commit to buying it and only ordering a small number
@@Aaron-wq3jz Simplicity? like the F-35? a plane that even your armies and your navy no longer want? ok ok beautiful, can't wait to see it
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I believe feel KNOW think and trust this missile should have a range of 250 miles to truly be effective 😉
long range != effectiveness against moving targets etc.
@@spencerstevens2175 Having an accurate longer range has a mental advantage for the USA and a extreme disadvantage against our for 😎
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I think that this missile could certainly give the F35 an amazing leg up and put Western fighters on par with the PL-15 missile that is most certainly carried by the J-20.
I'd like to see the Meteor on RAAF F-18's & F-35A's.
@Bob SaundersI'd say it's more of a political issue for us with another deal not going to the US. Dunno! We'll see!
@@corvanphoenix it's European
@@blairrobert3438 We're mates with them too. Plus they're the ones paying to put it on F-35 & F-18! So a hundred or so Meteors would be perfect. AIM-120 for the medium to close range stuff, AIM-9X for point blank, meteor for long range, high value targets. With a tanker waiting at the start/finish line, an F-35A would annihilate enemy AWACS platforms & get our before anyone can give chase. An F-18 of any kind will be far more survivable with the extra range too. Their Su-30 can do what it wants, it'll die before getting within range of our Rhino.
Can it fit in a 5th gen aircraft
Yeah
Is PL15 better?
No
@@emhyrvaremreis4540 Can you explain why?
Some people are stubborn about claiming pl15s 200-300km range is superior to meteor's 200km range.
@@direwolf7491 The PL-15 was designed to fight Awacs, tankers and bombers, so it cannot properly fight fighter jets. Or the Seeker isn't designed for that. Also, it's incredibly heavy and big so a fighter jet could fly 100+ km turns to lower the PL-15's fuel. In addition, the guided missile Meteor has the advantage that it has a ramjet, so it is much more manoeuvrable or it can still have 11g in 200km and still fly at 4+ the maneuverability and the speed of the PL-15 in turn passes quickly because it is not a ramjet owns.
@@emhyrvaremreis4540 Yes, but there are Chinese and Pakistani trolls that keep arguing about this. And there is no clear available data on the PL 15
@@direwolf7491 There is definitely data about the PL-15. How heavy it is or how big it is and other things like what it was created for.
Derby ER the same but Israeli it will be mounted on Israel Aircraft and else
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Baru ditembak!
ΗΕLLENIC AIR FORCE + RAFALE F3R + METEOR = Roasted Turkey.
IN YOUR DREAMS MAYBE! TURKEY HAS MUCH BETTER AIR TO AIR MISILES CALLED BOZDOGAN AND GÖKDAGAN! MAKE YOUR RESEARCH THEN TALK !
@@musti197000 If they are like Beko domestic appliances then they will catch fire and destroy the plane that they are attached to!!!
Wish you well
@@musti197000
Please demonstrate why you beleive these missiles are better than Meteor... bearing in mind that Bozdogan is not in the same class as either Meteor or Gokdogan. Please also demonstrate why Gokdogan is superior in your estimation when it is widely believed to be comparable with the Aim-120, the missile Meteor was designed to replace...
Gokhan is the closest Turkish analogue of Meteor, except it doesnt actually exist yet...
Seems you might want to do your own research... perhaps extend it beyond blindly believing anything made in Turkey must be better because of "no valid reason whatsoever".
Father of rafale that is s400 is ready to hunt any flying eagles out there😁
Not buying it unless it flies so fast it burns up completely in the air.
You don't have the money to buy it so I'm sure it's fine anyway
Rafael’s I-Derby ER missile is a an over 100 km long-range air-to-air missile with a dual-pulse rocket motor and an active radar seeker, providing combat aircraft with exceptional performance advantages both at short ranges or beyond visual range. The missile has fire-and-forget capabilities, allowing the operator to tackle multiple targets simultaneously. The missile’s lightweight allows it to be adapted to a variety of modern fighter jets, including the F-16, F-15, F-18, Gripen, LCA, Typhoon, and more.
India has bought both I-Derby ER(For Tejas Light Combat Multirole fighters) and Meteors (For Rafales). That, along with Indian Astra MK-1 Missile which has range of 110 kms (Astra Mk2 of 160 km is to be test fired later this year). We also use Russian R-77 Adder missiles which are our standard BVR missile but we are unhappy with it. It doesn't perform as good as Amraams which Pakistanis use. We also have R-27 semi active ones.
I-Derby is said to be very effective for its class however Meteor has the longest no escape zone. Rafaels Python-5 Short range missile is most impressive as per me. The thing has so many control surfaces that it manuevers like a beast.
anything works on a gripen tbh, just give it a little nudge
First launch 2006, first guided launch against a target in 2015. That's 9 years! What the hell were they doing for 9 years?
It took forever to develop, has only been operational for a few years and now with the emergence of PL 15 and AIM 260, it's not going to be the top dog anymore.
The PL-15 was designed to combat awacs or bombers. It weighs incredibly much compared to the Meteor, so it is incredibly slow in curves ect and logically loses more fuel in curves.
In addition, the teething troubles of the meteor have been eliminated and improvements have been made.
Making sure it works properly, that's what they've been doing. After all it is rocket science. 😉
A French missile !
Full 12.5% french
@@matsv201 as full as English says Star Streak is english lol Considering it's a French group that possess the company which build it lol
@@chrisa3661 that is not how national origin works
@@matsv201 Well, say that to people saying Bugatti is not French because owned by VW.
@@chrisa3661 well in that case they sort of got a point. There was not much left of the company when vw bought it.
Still if we talik about a specofic post vw ownership car, it start getting very complicated becuase a lot of the engineering was done by subcontractors that most of them was not frensh.
A more straight forward example is the Audi lambos that is pretty much a Italian build car from german parts.
A other example os the nohab locos. That was licensed from US loco but hevily modified, then ordered to Danmark, never sold in sweden... so is it danish, us ir swedish... and when it was ordered by norway a few years later.. did it become less danish? And this is 1950 so before most comoanies was international.
Is iPhone american, chinese or korean?
To me its pretty simple. The country where the most R&D was made is the country of origin. Who pays it while having impact on when it exist, not what it become.
If who pays it what would be important, the Nordic mobie telecomunication would be clasified as Saudi arabic... makes no sense
If ducted rocket ramjet concept is so good why isn't it being adopted by US and others.
Every best weapon isn't with the US. They are either developing those or don't want those. Requirements are not the same for every nation too.
@@mnd7381 Air superiority is something the US takes very seriously and has always been ahead. So this is hard to digest in this case.
Maybe because they haven't been able to pull out one so far, since the Meteor's proven performance is fairly recent, and what with a certain 5th generation fighter taking up so much of the research budget, maybe they just haven't been able to make a working one just yet
I don't know about the USA, but India/Russia have a running project now for their own under the Astra-3 name, and China I think had a project now for similar with pl-21. Both of those are rated at over 300 km and if one pokes around at various other info one gets the impression the MBDA Meteor might actually have a similar range and that they've just classified this.
But basically as you say, it's such a good concept that most other major nations have a known program to get their own now.
@@Quickshot0 I guess the Indian program is independent.
Pretty good apart from the EU "advertising" using Ode to Joy as background music. If Europe's history is anything to go by we will be using these against each other at some time and I bet it won't be the UK that starts it either. ;)
well maybe because the missile is EUROPEAN and not UK made, so music is kind of appropriate (as the video is about the missile) ;-)
With love from the continent.
Seeing how the UK doesn't want to be a part of Europe anymore, I guess it's fair to say the UK won't be an initial participant in a possible future European conflict.
@@herrakaarme Actually it just made them even more dependent to the US and even less likely to say no if any new conflict is to arise like for instance against China.. The EU is a lot less likely to collectively agree to an offensive war.
@@SFDPSFDP There obviously won't be an offensive war against China, so your example is kind of dodgy. If there was a defensive war, I doubt the EU would particularly oppose it, but as an entity the EU couldn't really do that much about it, as it's not a military union. NATO covers that.
@@herrakaarme If you say so i guess there won't be one, but the US is preparing for it since the possibility of a Taiwan invasion is far from a dodgy prospect, the massive increases in military budgets and deployments around the south China sea region is a fact. As for the EU, it does not have a military union yet but they are working on it, NATO has been fragilized by US unilateralism since the fall of the Soviet Union, the EU wants to remain close to the US but be more sovereign on the long term on defence issues.
THS MISSILE WOULD BE VERY VERY COST-EFFICIENT FOR UKRAINE
And then a Su-35 shows up with a R-37 :) 150-300KM!
And how much does the R-37 weigh? In corners it is not only extremely slow but also loses an incredible amount of fuel.
@@emhyrvaremreis4540 That doesn't matter! No one cared about the weight of the Phoenix either. But only the Tomcat could carry it. The 37 can be launched by 5 different Planes and only one of them is a high alt Interceptor. The rest are Multirole Fighters.
@@WanderfalkeAT Of course that makes something of TF🤦♂️ That's why the Phoenix was exchanged for the Aim-120, but you could still carry it with an F-18 or F-15. The point is that it consumes an unbelievably slow and unbelievable amount of fuel in curves. It is only good against awacs or bombers or why is the R-77 still being used? Even for the Mig-41, other versions of R-77 are planned lol.
@@WanderfalkeAT The R-37 is comparable to the PL-15 and not to the Meteor.
We’d be safe, the R37 would only home onto anything Malaysian. Hang on, silly me, Russians don’t shoot down civilian airliners, that would be separatists, who speak Russian, have been trained in Russian and born in Russia. Oh! and are part of the Russian military.
AIM-260 will be flight tested this year.
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Zadnego balansu nie zmienicie. Po co? Zeby wywolywac wojny napastnicze?
Like what Russia is doing now?
Turkish bayraktar tb2 please
what would be cool would be to be able to fire backwards like shitting to defend against incoming missiles...