I'm a little older (mid 60's) and I hope I live long enough to see this technology first hand. I believe within 5 to 10 years these will be commonplace and not so weird. I had one of the first Walkman's that played cassettes. People would look at you funny then as well.
I'm mid 60s also and I had one of the original Walkman also. I even had a little reel to reel player when I was 8 yrs old. Now I pay with my apple watch and iphone. I love tech also. And I think in the immediate future we will see a mergence between VR & AI. Just say ur AI's name and he/she will appear ready to do your bidding.
@@Martocciaweb i don't think they need to charge for a sales demo. they do free training/sales events in their stores (i'm not if they still do, but I know they used to)
I would love to try this out now. The emotions in your face talking about it. It sounds like the iPhone moment, but times ten because of the immersion.
Absolutely awesome review! At the end you said this is probably running too long, but I was ready to hear you say much more! Your excitement added a lot. I can’t wait to try one!
SOmetimes I think other reviewers feel they need to find something negative to play up to make for a "balanced" review and to not come off as a fanboy. But you've always been sensible, to the point, and put any questionable parts in proper perspective with everything else. Plus you haven't lost your sense of awe. 👍🏼👍🏼
Just like 2007, this is the ground floor for the next phase of personal computing. I can just imagine what this product might look like in 10 years. Think about the first iPhone vs the iPhone that came out in 2017 and the ones thereafter. The smart move might be to wait for version 2 or 3 before jumping in but umm.....I'm not going to wait this time. I don't want to be in a rocking chair before I can enjoy this technology. Overpriced with very early tech notwithstanding, I may just be purchasing a gen 1 product. Although most people will be waiting for gen 2 or 3 when the headset is smaller and cheaper. Which is what Apple is already planning on.
The introduction of the Apple Vision Pro felt like the iPhone moment for me. For the people who don't understand, the iPhone when it was announced wasn't the important part. That first one sucked, was too expensive and had missing functionality. It was the new canvas that Apple introduced to the world that was the important part. Something to be built upon. The AVP is a new canvas that Apple is giving to the world.
I mostly agree with that. When the first iPhone came out it did have a killer app though. It was mobile Safari. Every other phone browser at the time was terrible for browsing the web. I wonder if the Apple AR headset has a similar "killer" app. Perhaps the eye tracking will be good enough to enable apps to be more efficient. No longer a need for a mouse to focus a cursor. Another possibility is if they can tap into the Method of loci / Mind palace techniques to make creative tools better. I've always imagined a 3D code editor that enabled you to visualize the connections between files better. As a programmer navigating through 20 files in a tabbed interface isn't that great. At least in my experience... I'm excited for the future of AR / VR, I just wonder if Apple has cracked that nut yet, so to speak. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci Moonwalking with Einstein: The Art and Science of Remembering Everything
@@chatche Interesting comment. I like the idea of utilizing a 3D UI for the loci/mind palace technique. I'm curious to hear you elaborate more on how that might work. Also, I agree that Safari on iOS 1 was amazing, at least compared to the Blackberry and Palm BS we were stuck with during that time! 😂 I had a Treo 650 and I found it was easier to use a VNC app to remote in to my desktop computer and browse the web that way! After the iPhone came out, I didn't need to mess with that anymore.
@@Ryan256 For programming I could see a 3D space being super useful for debugging and visualizing the data flow through different classes / functions. Instead of stepping through a file line by line you could have the call stack color highlighted or something so that you could tell where it was called from in your field of vision. Also for method of loci to work well I think you would need somewhere to "put" the files so that your mind can remember where everything is. Like the rooms of your house never change, which is why you can walk around your house with your eyes shut pretty easily. Seems like there could be a way to tap into that same geo-spatial remembering for other knowledge based work. Just spitballing here 😀
I have watched all reactors’ videos after trying this headset, even the non fans journalists and all of them, literally, all of them saying it’s insanely good. Okay, if that’s their first reactions, imagine my first reaction when I first put it in.
Me too. They all consistently say the weight is noticeable too. I imagine the VisionAir would use plastic instead of metal and remove the front glass (as it serves no purpose to the user, only those around you) to lighten it.
@@k.vn.k I wonder if they could have made the unit into a helmet or thick head band of some kind, where most of the weighty stuff would be on top of the head, and have a visor that can drop down in front of the eyes. It should help with the weight issue, and easier to take with you.
I think apple is going to sell many more of these than they’re anticipating! Me personally I’m going to wait and see some videos of how this performs in the real world before buying it. To ensure it’s not a gimmick before spending $3500. But if it is truly an unreal movie, escape etc. experience from apple, I may have to try it.
Agreed. Even as broke as I am.....I want to start saving from now just to get it. I realise a few yrs later I'll kick myself when they have a newer version for a fraction....but I guess we all gotta live in the moment some time lol
Great review. This certainly does seem like the future. With such a glowing account of the experience by a number of TH-camrs I have to think this will sell fairly well despite the price. When you couple this immersion with AI it's all going to feel like an alternate world.
I'm glad every Apple user can share in the VR experiences that have existed for some time. Hopefully, this spurs the development of great content. VR180 video and 3D content are great in VR. I'm writing this video wearing my Quest Pro working on Mac. Although it works the quality leaves a lot to be desired. My main reason for purchasing this product would be to use it as a virtual monitor. Im excited about the future.
"I'm glad every Apple user can share in the VR experiences that have existed for some time…I'm writing this video wearing my Quest Pro." LOL…you didn't even watch this video. If you had you'd know two things: First, Apple Vision Pro's technology and capabilities are novel and unique and second, your Quest Pro is not at all comparable to the AVP.
So much for Meta. The sensor fidelity is unparalleled and the software possibilities are endless. For example, what if you could literally translate the deaf's hand gestures in realtime for us dummies who can hear as this device improves.
Or transcribe what we say into text or sign language for those who are hard of hearing. Or even something as simple as translating what a foreign person says to know and dictating how you should answer back 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Dear Dan, I’m wondering if you tried to bring the movie screen to its maximum size, and how that felt. No one seems to be addressing that, but in my mind, regardless of the 3D, being in front of an IMAX should feel pretty amazing, but I wanted some words about it from someone who actually tried it.
As someone who has watched Apple for 20+ years, I’m long term bullish on this. You’d think the people trashing the Vision with hot takes would be more humbled considering how many times Apple has proven people wrong and how baseless so many criticisms have proven in past product launches. You’d think people would give a little street cred to the company behind the Mac, PowerBook, iMac, OS X, iPod, iTunes, MacBook, iPhone, iOS, the App Store, MacBook Air, iPad, and Apple Watch. When you dismiss a stellar track record like that as irrational fandom you lose credibility IMO. Vision is not a direct competitor with PSVR2, Quest, etc. It is a bleeding edge mixed reality platform not just for games but personal life stuff, work, travel/remote, design, collaboration, and entertainment. It is a general computing device with a breakthrough new interface and display that nails or at least seriously addresses most of the issues holding back mixed reality systems from adoption: The performance and tracking responsiveness, display sharpness and immersion, seamless switching between AR/VR and at least taking a stab at the social isolation thing. There are potential wonders in store for the accessibility community. I see those digital eyeballs being weird for about 1 day and then moving on, as we have for countless other paradigms: buying digital music, keyboard-less phones, buttonless phones, large tablets, talking to digital assistants, wearing tech on the wrist and ears, drawing with digital pencils, biometric scanning of our fingerprints and face, etc. The core experience and user interface remind me of the quantum leap enabled not only by Multitouch hardware in 2007 but the accompanying software: gestures, finger chords, simulated physics, and generally the touch grammar of modern smartphones. The iPhone was mocked too for having no buttons and costing 3X as much as a BlackBerry. They all start off being mocked as being conspicuous high tech toy for Apple fanboys. The same was said of iPods, over-engineered museum pieces with giant hard drives; then 3 years later they are a fashion statement. Much the same for iPads. I distinctly remember feeling like a dweeb when I pulled out an iPad 2 on a train in 2011; now they are everywhere. The iPad was even mocked for its name. “It sounds like feminine hygiene…it should’ve been called iSlate…” Now it’s genericized and 3 year olds call every other brand of tablet an iPad. The Apple Watch was compared to watch calculators - obviously something only a nerd would wear. Niche, geeky toys for early adopters can quickly become mainstream in 1-4 years. They’re all just part of the tech landscape now. I would give 5:1 odds that any given person drops their skepticism the minute they try one in person, realize they can have nearly any content floating in the room at nearly any size in 3D with spatial audio. Yes $3,500 is a lot. But like so many previous Apple products there isn’t anything to directly compare it to - or people are comparing it to the wrong alternative. It’s expensive, yet nothing else on the market actually does the same thing at the same quality. Prices will drift down, more affordable and less bleeding edge models will splinter off. But to be clear, just being in this general price range, it is comparable to buying a Mac or high end display or TV. Low single digit million unit sales would still be a decent success (the first gen iPhone only sold 6 million). We should not define success as flying off the shelves in the hundreds or even tens of millions of units, just as Macs and displays (and everything except iPhones) still do not sell at that scale. For the first 2-3 years I see it being popular with early adopters, AV enthusiasts, designers, engineers, media content creators, executives, and people with accessibility issues. When content becomes richer, we get accustomed to seeing them, and the prices drop i could see this becoming one of those medium sized purchases you consider every few years (new TV, new Mac) and a gadget whose ownership level in the population is nowhere near universal but still socially understood - think robot vacuum, VR headset, electric car, smart home.
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M do you know how dumb this comment sounds? I own the Nreals and I own the quest pro. The quest pro doesn’t have high enough resolution, comfort, or pass-through for any of their promises to be fulfilled. I like my quest pro, but it’s kind of a gimmick. I also like my in real glasses, but they’re really just displays that get tracked with 3° or 6° of freedom - they are not really augmented reality and they are not really mixed reality or virtual reality. this headset does everything better than Varjo’s best headset that costs 7k - while being a standalone computational device. Stop being a hater. It’s a bad look.
I agree with your take. I see a lot of people failing to understand just how much more advanced this is compared to something like the Quest Pro. The Quest Pros colour pass-through is grainy, lacks depth, has janky colour and warps. Apples however is crisp and clean, has brilliant occlusion for hands when above digital screens an no visible warps. The fact that the demos we saw from inside the Vision Pro at WWDC, is footage captured from inside the headset, shows people everything. If you look at pass-through footage of the Quest Pro, Apples headset blows it out of the water by miles. It's very easy for people to look at the price, and call it "expensive", which it is. But "not worth it" I disagree with. It is 100% worth the price for the tech you are getting. Plus, if you use VR for games, the Vision Pro is not for you. The Vision Pro is meant for Media Consumption, Productivity and Connectivity. We saw this exact thing with Apples Pro XDR Display. Crazy expensive, however an absolute bargain for the specs compared to other similar displays. I've already decided I'm getting one, and once they show more stuff this headset can do I'm gonna be even more excited.
Tho have to say even as Apple has brought amazing products to life it has little credibility with regard to practical use of v.1 of its hardware products?
Dan, I really appreciate your honesty in how astonished you were! Some tech reviewers tried to play it cool, and act like there’s nothing new here and that this is just an iteration of existing headsets. Which seems like a gross misrepresentation of the truth. Thanks for communicating your wonder and awe!
Thanks for your great review on the Apple Vision Pro and so many other products. Two additional questions: 1. I have seen a few videos where passengers (not drivers) are having problems using the Apple Vision Pro in a moving car. Is there any existing way to fix this? 2. I use a Yubico NFC/USB-C security key for some apps and websites. I am guessing that there is no direct way to do this with the AVP? Maybe will need to do it on a trusted iPhone that is associated with the AVP you are using? Thoughts?
How does it deal with boundaries when in full immersive mode? When you get close to a wall or table, will it switch to pass through in the same way it does with a person?
Correct. Unlike meta where you set boundaries, Vision maps the world around constantly and either will alert you if you are going to bump into something or create virtual boundaries inside your world.
Thanks Dan, quick question... when you were reading text from Safari or other apps, was that text a normal size (say 10-12pt) or was it might higher (20pt-24pt) just to be readable? That has been my biggest issue with using desktop scenarios in other VR headsets. With the font so big, you can only see a few lines of text vs. a few paragraphs or the full page, making for tons of scrolling... Hopefully the high def of Vision PRO addresses that.
I cant tell what size the font was but it was very readable. It looks exactly like what I showed in the video but a lot closer to your face. Sorry if that’s not helpful but best I can explain haha
Very helpful thank you! I’m looking forward to the Vision Pro as a respite from a lot of airline travel. Vision Pro + AirPods Pro will be the perfect combo for more peaceful flights
I want to take my 60 year old mother to experience this. She would get her mind blown. However the 2 hr battery life is kind of off putting but this is first gen so no worries 😅
I wonder if there are potential applications for people with severe vision impairment or treating those with anxiety disorders (acrophobia, agoraphobia, etc).
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Or weird pain syndromes like phantom pain, or complex regional pain syndrome
What I’d like to know is will this work with someone with a blind eye? And the eye moves on its own. So it seems like unless they have some accessibility options it may leave some people out.
I think it probably would. If I close one eye in the quest pro it still looks like I’m in VR. Tracking just one eye shouldn’t be a big technical issue.
My question is how clear is the passthrough. On the meta quest pro is not good. Especially if the room is low light do you think is going to be noisy? Thank you so much.
I am already starting to wonder where they might cut down on specs if there ever was some kind of "Vision SE" for the more average consumer...surely displays like, for example, in the iPhone SE would be hard to accept no matter what the price of the device. Anyway, nice to see you SO happy - truly one of those moments you can later tell "I was there"!👍🙂
If it is that good, I don´t need my TV 2k$ maybe not my pc 1.5k$ no headphones 50$, no 1k$ cellphone. So you already saved enough to argue the cost. You most likely can buy it with a carrier.
I think it's more likely that they'll introduce an upgraded Pro version in three years and downgrade this to "Apple Vision" at $2000 or thereabouts, the way that top-of-line iPhones eventually become the budget models without a change in specs.
I am visually impaired. And I wonder if Apple has any accessibility with the Apple Vision Pro like they do their other devices. I would love to use an experience this. I know it would not be the same if I could see but getting the experience of being able to use the other features.
Great video! I think I’d probably felt the same way! If they’ve got down the interface, eye controls, hand gestures, I think that it would feel like magic. I would have never guessed your eyes could be such a precise cursor? Wowza.
I have no clue. With all the cameras and sensors that are needed, I doubt it. Five years down the road? 🤔🤔🤔 Just watching the keynote, I felt like this is Ready Player 1, now! I can’t wait to see more.
@@ArmandXP imagine you just need to move your eyes to select items everywhere. Yes, the future seems very interesting and we are only starting. Human is always progressing, what an amazing creature we are.
Yes but unclear exactly how audible it is. It seems like it’s similar to a phone or very loud headphones. If you’re in a quiet environment and blasting a movie, sure. People will hear it. A call probably not as much
can you change the battery mid use? like if you have multiple batteries and want to switch the current one for a new one, is that possible? is there an internal battery that lasts for like 30 seconds while you do the switch? also, will you be able to watch gopro 360 video?
Can you set it up so that others see what the wearer is seeing? I'm thinking of purchasing one and, for a nominal fee, allowing others to try it for 20-30 minutes. It would be great to see what they are seeing so I could say, "OK, see that screen to the left? Look at that and tap your fingers."
I mean that’s exactly how my demo was. The person had an iPad and was seeing exactly what i had on screen. I don’t know if that will be available to the public or not but it’s possible
Apple bought a company called NextVR that used to broadcast sports, live shows, and comedy in VR for the first PSVR. Then Apple bought the company and shut it down a couple years back. I’ve been so excited to see it return with apple. The PSVR was blurry and the players appeared smaller when they got closer and bigger when they were farther away (fisheye). Does it look better now?
The psvr2 is a huge improvement in the first one. I have both and always felt like the first one was not a finished product. The apple chips are all awful at 3D graphics so unless they get a proper PC 3D card i will stick with the Sony version even if it is much bulkier
It has its own OS (VisionOS) doesn’t need any other devices. Saying that, it can also works alongside other devices. You can check your iPhone and the screen will float like 3D, you can operate on Mac and the screen floats in any size you want, you can wear Airpods and use noise cancellation with it. Etc.
Awesome overview! Can’t wait to work with this and never use a mouse again. I bet I could save 1 hour a day just with the speed and accuracy of the eye trackers.
The next step is a kind of neuralink interface so i dont have to use my hand anymore. And the next step is a sensory deprivation tank with tubes so that i can immerse all my senses.
Being an Apple device user for almost 30 years I am used to seeing v1 of hardware products being very hobbled. It usually takes v.3 (v.2 in the case of the iPad) to live up to its basic potential. That would make the M4/R3 model the one to watch for. But you seem to have no reservations? Mr Cook says it replaces a powerful computer but gave no indication of the memory or storage capacity? ‘Sup?
While this is the first time Apple shows it to us, the first gen is actually back in 10 years ago. You are seeing the final form, any improvements in the next generation will be iterations.
I would like to know the EMF readings since it is on your face ... I am interested in safety with the M2 and the R1 chipsets so close to your head for periods of time.
When you did the FaceTime call did the person you were talking to look three dimensional? I ask this question because the demonstration that we saw shows the person’s head as being on a two dimensional flat panel. Could you expand the person’s head to occupy your full field of view so that the head appeared life-size?
I'm legally blind. I have some vision, but not a ton. Apple's usually great at accessibility, but even so I wonder how well this will work for me. I'm eager to find out.
You'd mention that the audio from the headset is good, just wonder if you are the only one hearing from the headset or people around you could hear the same
Guy who’s only ever used one other headset blown away by this headset. As a pseudo journalist it probably would have been a good idea to get familiar with the competition’s products from 2-3 years ago before contributing to the noise.
It’s not my usual space. We cover Apple here. Apple didn’t come out with a headset until just now. I’ve used some others but they all give me motion sickness so I don’t really like using them. My opinion is still valid despite lack of experience physically using them. I still know a lot about them in general.
As someone who is all in on the Apple ecosystem and an APPL shareholder, I watched the WWDC keynote with some trepidation, as I didn't see how another headset could be all that exciting. When it was over, I still wasn't sure what to think. It took me a while to digest just how different and capable this device is. VP has been years in the making, and it shows. While the keynote did a good job of presenting this thing, Dan's (@MacRumors) review confirmed my feeling that this is the beginning of a major shift in the computing paradigm. Spatial computing seems an apt description. I appreciate the genuine enthusiasm Dan brings to this initial review and I am really looking forward to trying it. In spite of the price, I think Apple has taken quite a large step forward by developing this platform.
Thank you Dan. How loud the audio is for someone next to you when you were watching a movie or in general? How does the audio behave when more than one are using headsets in the same room interacting with the same or different content?
I tried to get info on that but from what I gathered it’s probably like your phone. If it’s a quiet environment, people will probably hear it. Depends on what you’re doing too. Call? Probably not but movies might be audible
Is it a stand alone computer? I understand you can see your MacBook etc but I feel like everyone is missing the point. This can be its own discrete unit right?
Because part of the processing power goes to create the AR experience, it means it’s not gonna be able to run apps as well as a M2 Mac. i.e, I think we can forget Final Cut Pro running natively on the headset. We’re just gonna be able to virtualize a Mac screen running FCP, hence using the Mac’s computing power to run the app.
Thanks for the great review.. I am excited to know that the sound is so great, especially that it puts out good bass. I hope it mimics the Dolby Atmos that I get through my AppleTV and my 11.2 sound system setup. I assume you could use the Air Play for the sound to your AppleTV and have the sound go through your receiver set-up ? On my AppleTV app on my AppleTV box, I can select shows/movies, etc. from my other streaming services, like Netflix, Prime, etc. Will those still work on the AppleTV App on the Vision Pro ? Netflix has a good selection of Dolby Vision/Atmos movies that I would hate to loose. Anyway, I can't wait for Vision Pro to come out for sale. I will be on top of it ASAP after you can buy them in the Apple Online store or at my local Apple Store. CHEERS.
I want this for editing- if I can also use a mouse. I could edit laying down or sitting up and see things much larger. My eyes are getting old because I’m getting old…. This might help me see better. If it lessens my eye fatigue, gives me more comfort to relax and edit even laying down now and then / I’m all in
I won't be buying one but I sure do want one now. My question: When they showed the video during WWDC, the person on the plane was wearing AirPods. Are they required to prevent people around being able to hear the content that would otherwise be coming from the Vision Pro? Is the VP speaker an actual speaker or bone conduction?
How about magazines in Apple News+ that only have pics of the pages (like Mac Format). I rarely read articles on my MacBook Air due to having to zoom in to read text. How do magazines look in the Vision Pro? Is the small text readable?
It’s crazy to imagine that, with this headset, nearsighted people such as myself will be able to see all of the digital elements completely crisp and clear, since they may appear to be a few foot away in your environment but are actually an inch from your eyes 🤯🤯 Feeling like I can see clearly would definitely be an emotional and exciting experience
Great job, Dan! Just a question: since the product seems to be pretty solid even at this early stage, do you feel Apple could have let you use it a bit on your own? I mean, it seems you weren't even allowed to make a short video of you while trying it.
Wait….. it can record in 3D. So TH-cam should allow these 3D video uploads and those with headsets also see it in Apple 3D like the original upload…. Game changer for content creators!
this needs to be the size of glasses to sale like phones, this is like the new vr set with og, just like in back to the future kids. when i saw that i knew that person knew that would be the future as i
Still decide with your wallet. It is definitely not a must have device if you have mac, phone, display, tv, etc. already. But if you have spare money why not?
I dont know how the connection is going to work with that. Apple demoed in the keynote just looking at your MacBook and it will connect and display in Vision Pro but not sure how that works with Mac Studio
Very excited about it, the price is not that expensive. I just need to know if I can use it with Microsoft Windows as well. If not I am gonna keep working with a metaquest 3.
I'm a little older (mid 60's) and I hope I live long enough to see this technology first hand. I believe within 5 to 10 years these will be commonplace and not so weird. I had one of the first Walkman's that played cassettes. People would look at you funny then as well.
I'm mid 60s also and I had one of the original Walkman also. I even had a little reel to reel player when I was 8 yrs old. Now I pay with my apple watch and iphone. I love tech also. And I think in the immediate future we will see a mergence between VR & AI. Just say ur AI's name and he/she will appear ready to do your bidding.
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I had a Sony “CD” Walkman 😂❤ it would of been cool to live trough the cassette era 😌😌
It would be cool if Apple could host events at their Apple Store to let people demo these. $50 for 30 min would be totally worth it.
@@Martocciaweb i don't think they need to charge for a sales demo. they do free training/sales events in their stores (i'm not if they still do, but I know they used to)
I would love to try this out now. The emotions in your face talking about it. It sounds like the iPhone moment, but times ten because of the immersion.
It was pretty mind blowing honestly
Yeah it's a more expensive quest pro.
iPhone moment? LMFAO.
@@will201084 you never know. The iPhone was laughed at, at first too.
@@KNCPGT There is no equivalence. But if you think there is, enjoy your Quest, bro.
Absolutely awesome review! At the end you said this is probably running too long, but I was ready to hear you say much more! Your excitement added a lot. I can’t wait to try one!
The is perhaps the best account of the Vision Pro experience I've seen so far. Detailed, balanced and engaging. Great job👍
by any chance your name is KISSINGger?
SOmetimes I think other reviewers feel they need to find something negative to play up to make for a "balanced" review and to not come off as a fanboy. But you've always been sensible, to the point, and put any questionable parts in proper perspective with everything else. Plus you haven't lost your sense of awe. 👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you. I just try to be honest. And I was honestly impressed.
Just like 2007, this is the ground floor for the next phase of personal computing. I can just imagine what this product might look like in 10 years. Think about the first iPhone vs the iPhone that came out in 2017 and the ones thereafter. The smart move might be to wait for version 2 or 3 before jumping in but umm.....I'm not going to wait this time. I don't want to be in a rocking chair before I can enjoy this technology. Overpriced with very early tech notwithstanding, I may just be purchasing a gen 1 product. Although most people will be waiting for gen 2 or 3 when the headset is smaller and cheaper. Which is what Apple is already planning on.
You have always given your real opinion… and I appreciate it!
I can’t wait to experience it for myself!
Thank you 🙏
The introduction of the Apple Vision Pro felt like the iPhone moment for me. For the people who don't understand, the iPhone when it was announced wasn't the important part. That first one sucked, was too expensive and had missing functionality. It was the new canvas that Apple introduced to the world that was the important part. Something to be built upon. The AVP is a new canvas that Apple is giving to the world.
Please don't call it AVP...
Literally the worst movies 😔
My thoughts exactly. This is a new medium for apps, creativity, and content creation. I can’t wait!
I mostly agree with that. When the first iPhone came out it did have a killer app though. It was mobile Safari. Every other phone browser at the time was terrible for browsing the web. I wonder if the Apple AR headset has a similar "killer" app. Perhaps the eye tracking will be good enough to enable apps to be more efficient. No longer a need for a mouse to focus a cursor. Another possibility is if they can tap into the Method of loci / Mind palace techniques to make creative tools better. I've always imagined a 3D code editor that enabled you to visualize the connections between files better. As a programmer navigating through 20 files in a tabbed interface isn't that great. At least in my experience...
I'm excited for the future of AR / VR, I just wonder if Apple has cracked that nut yet, so to speak.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci
Moonwalking with Einstein: The Art and Science of Remembering Everything
@@chatche Interesting comment. I like the idea of utilizing a 3D UI for the loci/mind palace technique. I'm curious to hear you elaborate more on how that might work.
Also, I agree that Safari on iOS 1 was amazing, at least compared to the Blackberry and Palm BS we were stuck with during that time! 😂 I had a Treo 650 and I found it was easier to use a VNC app to remote in to my desktop computer and browse the web that way! After the iPhone came out, I didn't need to mess with that anymore.
@@Ryan256 For programming I could see a 3D space being super useful for debugging and visualizing the data flow through different classes / functions. Instead of stepping through a file line by line you could have the call stack color highlighted or something so that you could tell where it was called from in your field of vision. Also for method of loci to work well I think you would need somewhere to "put" the files so that your mind can remember where everything is. Like the rooms of your house never change, which is why you can walk around your house with your eyes shut pretty easily. Seems like there could be a way to tap into that same geo-spatial remembering for other knowledge based work. Just spitballing here 😀
I have watched all reactors’ videos after trying this headset, even the non fans journalists and all of them, literally, all of them saying it’s insanely good.
Okay, if that’s their first reactions, imagine my first reaction when I first put it in.
Me too. They all consistently say the weight is noticeable too. I imagine the VisionAir would use plastic instead of metal and remove the front glass (as it serves no purpose to the user, only those around you) to lighten it.
@@NT-or9wh the front glass is necessary evil. when you talk to somebody with glass on, it won’t feel like you talk to a brick of wall.
@@k.vn.k I wonder if they could have made the unit into a helmet or thick head band of some kind, where most of the weighty stuff would be on top of the head, and have a visor that can drop down in front of the eyes. It should help with the weight issue, and easier to take with you.
I think apple is going to sell many more of these than they’re anticipating! Me personally I’m going to wait and see some videos of how this performs in the real world before buying it. To ensure it’s not a gimmick before spending $3500. But if it is truly an unreal movie, escape etc. experience from apple, I may have to try it.
Agreed. Even as broke as I am.....I want to start saving from now just to get it. I realise a few yrs later I'll kick myself when they have a newer version for a fraction....but I guess we all gotta live in the moment some time lol
Great review. This certainly does seem like the future. With such a glowing account of the experience by a number of TH-camrs I have to think this will sell fairly well despite the price. When you couple this immersion with AI it's all going to feel like an alternate world.
Thank you for the energy you felt and imparted.
I'm glad every Apple user can share in the VR experiences that have existed for some time. Hopefully, this spurs the development of great content. VR180 video and 3D content are great in VR. I'm writing this video wearing my Quest Pro working on Mac. Although it works the quality leaves a lot to be desired. My main reason for purchasing this product would be to use it as a virtual monitor. Im excited about the future.
You have right attitude.
"I'm glad every Apple user can share in the VR experiences that have existed for some time…I'm writing this video wearing my Quest Pro." LOL…you didn't even watch this video. If you had you'd know two things: First, Apple Vision Pro's technology and capabilities are novel and unique and second, your Quest Pro is not at all comparable to the AVP.
So much for Meta. The sensor fidelity is unparalleled and the software possibilities are endless. For example, what if you could literally translate the deaf's hand gestures in realtime for us dummies who can hear as this device improves.
Or transcribe what we say into text or sign language for those who are hard of hearing. Or even something as simple as translating what a foreign person says to know and dictating how you should answer back 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Dear Dan, I’m wondering if you tried to bring the movie screen to its maximum size, and how that felt. No one seems to be addressing that, but in my mind, regardless of the 3D, being in front of an IMAX should feel pretty amazing, but I wanted some words about it from someone who actually tried it.
I dont know what the maximum size is but i also demoed a theater mode and it felt pretty close to just being in an empty movie theater.
As someone who has watched Apple for 20+ years, I’m long term bullish on this. You’d think the people trashing the Vision with hot takes would be more humbled considering how many times Apple has proven people wrong and how baseless so many criticisms have proven in past product launches. You’d think people would give a little street cred to the company behind the Mac, PowerBook, iMac, OS X, iPod, iTunes, MacBook, iPhone, iOS, the App Store, MacBook Air, iPad, and Apple Watch. When you dismiss a stellar track record like that as irrational fandom you lose credibility IMO.
Vision is not a direct competitor with PSVR2, Quest, etc. It is a bleeding edge mixed reality platform not just for games but personal life stuff, work, travel/remote, design, collaboration, and entertainment. It is a general computing device with a breakthrough new interface and display that nails or at least seriously addresses most of the issues holding back mixed reality systems from adoption: The performance and tracking responsiveness, display sharpness and immersion, seamless switching between AR/VR and at least taking a stab at the social isolation thing. There are potential wonders in store for the accessibility community.
I see those digital eyeballs being weird for about 1 day and then moving on, as we have for countless other paradigms: buying digital music, keyboard-less phones, buttonless phones, large tablets, talking to digital assistants, wearing tech on the wrist and ears, drawing with digital pencils, biometric scanning of our fingerprints and face, etc.
The core experience and user interface remind me of the quantum leap enabled not only by Multitouch hardware in 2007 but the accompanying software: gestures, finger chords, simulated physics, and generally the touch grammar of modern smartphones. The iPhone was mocked too for having no buttons and costing 3X as much as a BlackBerry.
They all start off being mocked as being conspicuous high tech toy for Apple fanboys. The same was said of iPods, over-engineered museum pieces with giant hard drives; then 3 years later they are a fashion statement. Much the same for iPads. I distinctly remember feeling like a dweeb when I pulled out an iPad 2 on a train in 2011; now they are everywhere. The iPad was even mocked for its name. “It sounds like feminine hygiene…it should’ve been called iSlate…” Now it’s genericized and 3 year olds call every other brand of tablet an iPad. The Apple Watch was compared to watch calculators - obviously something only a nerd would wear. Niche, geeky toys for early adopters can quickly become mainstream in 1-4 years. They’re all just part of the tech landscape now.
I would give 5:1 odds that any given person drops their skepticism the minute they try one in person, realize they can have nearly any content floating in the room at nearly any size in 3D with spatial audio.
Yes $3,500 is a lot. But like so many previous Apple products there isn’t anything to directly compare it to - or people are comparing it to the wrong alternative. It’s expensive, yet nothing else on the market actually does the same thing at the same quality.
Prices will drift down, more affordable and less bleeding edge models will splinter off. But to be clear, just being in this general price range, it is comparable to buying a Mac or high end display or TV. Low single digit million unit sales would still be a decent success (the first gen iPhone only sold 6 million). We should not define success as flying off the shelves in the hundreds or even tens of millions of units, just as Macs and displays (and everything except iPhones) still do not sell at that scale.
For the first 2-3 years I see it being popular with early adopters, AV enthusiasts, designers, engineers, media content creators, executives, and people with accessibility issues. When content becomes richer, we get accustomed to seeing them, and the prices drop i could see this becoming one of those medium sized purchases you consider every few years (new TV, new Mac) and a gadget whose ownership level in the population is nowhere near universal but still socially understood - think robot vacuum, VR headset, electric car, smart home.
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M do you know how dumb this comment sounds? I own the Nreals and I own the quest pro. The quest pro doesn’t have high enough resolution, comfort, or pass-through for any of their promises to be fulfilled. I like my quest pro, but it’s kind of a gimmick. I also like my in real glasses, but they’re really just displays that get tracked with 3° or 6° of freedom - they are not really augmented reality and they are not really mixed reality or virtual reality. this headset does everything better than Varjo’s best headset that costs 7k - while being a standalone computational device. Stop being a hater. It’s a bad look.
I agree with your take. I see a lot of people failing to understand just how much more advanced this is compared to something like the Quest Pro.
The Quest Pros colour pass-through is grainy, lacks depth, has janky colour and warps. Apples however is crisp and clean, has brilliant occlusion for hands when above digital screens an no visible warps.
The fact that the demos we saw from inside the Vision Pro at WWDC, is footage captured from inside the headset, shows people everything. If you look at pass-through footage of the Quest Pro, Apples headset blows it out of the water by miles.
It's very easy for people to look at the price, and call it "expensive", which it is. But "not worth it" I disagree with. It is 100% worth the price for the tech you are getting. Plus, if you use VR for games, the Vision Pro is not for you. The Vision Pro is meant for Media Consumption, Productivity and Connectivity.
We saw this exact thing with Apples Pro XDR Display. Crazy expensive, however an absolute bargain for the specs compared to other similar displays.
I've already decided I'm getting one, and once they show more stuff this headset can do I'm gonna be even more excited.
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M You're not aiming high enough. Based on features, it's a competitor to the Varjo XR-3, which isn't even available to consumers.
Tho have to say even as Apple has brought amazing products to life it has little credibility with regard to practical use of v.1 of its hardware products?
Nicely said. Yes, Vision is not directly competing with Meta, it more like the $10k Varjo XR3 but much better.
Will it work for the headless?! 😶
Can't wait to buy it. So good
Great review. I love how you shut down the comparison to Quest. It's truly in a class of its own and honest-to-God a glimpse at the future.
I can't wait to get one🤩
They’re making 100,000. Good luck.
Dan, I really appreciate your honesty in how astonished you were! Some tech reviewers tried to play it cool, and act like there’s nothing new here and that this is just an iteration of existing headsets. Which seems like a gross misrepresentation of the truth. Thanks for communicating your wonder and awe!
one of the best explanations that I have heard so far. Thank u!!!
Thanks for your great review on the Apple Vision Pro and so many other products. Two additional questions:
1. I have seen a few videos where passengers (not drivers) are having problems using the Apple Vision Pro in a moving car. Is there any existing way to fix this?
2. I use a Yubico NFC/USB-C security key for some apps and websites. I am guessing that there is no direct way to do this with the AVP? Maybe will need to do it on a trusted iPhone that is associated with the AVP you are using?
Thoughts?
How does it deal with boundaries when in full immersive mode? When you get close to a wall or table, will it switch to pass through in the same way it does with a person?
Correct. Unlike meta where you set boundaries, Vision maps the world around constantly and either will alert you if you are going to bump into something or create virtual boundaries inside your world.
Best description so far. Nice work!
Can't wait to try it. In a couple of years, it will probably be my next computer.
Thanks for the review. It's nice to hear a review from someone who has actually experienced the device.
Thanks Dan, quick question... when you were reading text from Safari or other apps, was that text a normal size (say 10-12pt) or was it might higher (20pt-24pt) just to be readable? That has been my biggest issue with using desktop scenarios in other VR headsets. With the font so big, you can only see a few lines of text vs. a few paragraphs or the full page, making for tons of scrolling... Hopefully the high def of Vision PRO addresses that.
I cant tell what size the font was but it was very readable. It looks exactly like what I showed in the video but a lot closer to your face. Sorry if that’s not helpful but best I can explain haha
The tech behind this thing is amazing...
Very helpful thank you! I’m looking forward to the Vision Pro as a respite from a lot of airline travel. Vision Pro + AirPods Pro will be the perfect combo for more peaceful flights
I want to take my 60 year old mother to experience this. She would get her mind blown. However the 2 hr battery life is kind of off putting but this is first gen so no worries 😅
Perhaps this is how Apple keeps you grounded in the real world, knowing that there is a 2-hr limit to this Shangri-la you've immersed yourself in ☺
Another reviewer said it can hotswap additional battery packs.
I wonder if there are potential applications for people with severe vision impairment or treating those with anxiety disorders (acrophobia, agoraphobia, etc).
Or weird pain syndromes like phantom pain, or complex regional pain syndrome
What I’d like to know is will this work with someone with a blind eye? And the eye moves on its own. So it seems like unless they have some accessibility options it may leave some people out.
I think it probably would. If I close one eye in the quest pro it still looks like I’m in VR. Tracking just one eye shouldn’t be a big technical issue.
It seems as if there will be something for that but I can’t really say what. There are loads of accessibility features though
When will it become budget price, and not the price of a high end vr desktop setup.
My question is how clear is the passthrough. On the meta quest pro is not good. Especially if the room is low light do you think is going to be noisy? Thank you so much.
It’s incredibly clear.
@@macrumors Thank you.
I think the phrase/term you were thinking of is "Phantom Touch"
I am already starting to wonder where they might cut down on specs if there ever was some kind of "Vision SE" for the more average consumer...surely displays like, for example, in the iPhone SE would be hard to accept no matter what the price of the device. Anyway, nice to see you SO happy - truly one of those moments you can later tell "I was there"!👍🙂
Get rid of the the front facing glass display for a start…
If it is that good, I don´t need my TV 2k$ maybe not my pc 1.5k$ no headphones 50$, no 1k$ cellphone. So you already saved enough to argue the cost. You most likely can buy it with a carrier.
I think it's more likely that they'll introduce an upgraded Pro version in three years and downgrade this to "Apple Vision" at $2000 or thereabouts, the way that top-of-line iPhones eventually become the budget models without a change in specs.
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Lower resolution LCD displays, no front eyesight screen, other than that I'm struggling to think of anything they could cheapen
I'm excited about the possibilities.
Awesome review!! btw, what camera/gear are you using? Video quality looks top notch 👍
Sony A7SIII with a 50m 1.4GM
I am visually impaired. And I wonder if Apple has any accessibility with the Apple Vision Pro like they do their other devices. I would love to use an experience this. I know it would not be the same if I could see but getting the experience of being able to use the other features.
Great overview!! Cheers 😊
Great video! I think I’d probably felt the same way! If they’ve got down the interface, eye controls, hand gestures, I think that it would feel like magic. I would have never guessed your eyes could be such a precise cursor? Wowza.
The eye tracking works great in enclosed environments but I wonder if they could bring that tech to iPhone. 🤔
I have no clue. With all the cameras and sensors that are needed, I doubt it. Five years down the road? 🤔🤔🤔 Just watching the keynote, I felt like this is Ready Player 1, now! I can’t wait to see more.
@@ArmandXP imagine you just need to move your eyes to select items everywhere. Yes, the future seems very interesting and we are only starting. Human is always progressing, what an amazing creature we are.
Best review. Better than MKBHD.
Dear Dan, can you sync to another headset to share theatre/entertainment experience for example to watch the same movie
I’m assuming yes but Apple never told us this for sure
Reading - how was it for reading? Nice sharp text and eyestrain-free reading? Do Tell!
Can other people hear the audio you are listening to while you have the headset on?
Yes but unclear exactly how audible it is. It seems like it’s similar to a phone or very loud headphones. If you’re in a quiet environment and blasting a movie, sure. People will hear it. A call probably not as much
can you change the battery mid use? like if you have multiple batteries and want to switch the current one for a new one, is that possible? is there an internal battery that lasts for like 30 seconds while you do the switch?
also, will you be able to watch gopro 360 video?
Everyone who tried the headset has the same look IM EXCITED
Can you set it up so that others see what the wearer is seeing? I'm thinking of purchasing one and, for a nominal fee, allowing others to try it for 20-30 minutes. It would be great to see what they are seeing so I could say, "OK, see that screen to the left? Look at that and tap your fingers."
I mean that’s exactly how my demo was. The person had an iPad and was seeing exactly what i had on screen. I don’t know if that will be available to the public or not but it’s possible
Nominal fee? People will just head to the Apple Store my friend!
Apple bought a company called NextVR that used to broadcast sports, live shows, and comedy in VR for the first PSVR. Then Apple bought the company and shut it down a couple years back. I’ve been so excited to see it return with apple. The PSVR was blurry and the players appeared smaller when they got closer and bigger when they were farther away (fisheye). Does it look better now?
The sports demo was absolutely incredible. Money can’t buy seats like what I saw
The psvr2 is a huge improvement in the first one. I have both and always felt like the first one was not a finished product.
The apple chips are all awful at 3D graphics so unless they get a proper PC 3D card i will stick with the Sony version even if it is much bulkier
Best review I have seen so far 😊 I cant wait to try this out..❤
This looks insane! One question - do you need a MacBook for this to work or just iPhone?
None of them. It’s standalone
It has its own OS (VisionOS) doesn’t need any other devices. Saying that, it can also works alongside other devices. You can check your iPhone and the screen will float like 3D, you can operate on Mac and the screen floats in any size you want, you can wear Airpods and use noise cancellation with it. Etc.
Basically it also enhances any other devices you have through its augmented power.
Ahh ok, sounds awesome
Awesome overview! Can’t wait to work with this and never use a mouse again.
I bet I could save 1 hour a day just with the speed and accuracy of the eye trackers.
I cant wait to wear this at thanksgiving dinner
and constantly making 3d pictures and video's, not awkward at all 😃
No need to wait, you probably already have your phone at the table.
The next step is a kind of neuralink interface so i dont have to use my hand anymore. And the next step is a sensory deprivation tank with tubes so that i can immerse all my senses.
Does it support the ability for multiple people, especially in the same family, to use the same headset? Don't hear anyone mention this.
Do the headset let you be fully immersed in a picture/video as in Virtual Reality, if say I wanted to feel like I am in space?
how many screens and apps can you add into your space? What's the limit?
Idk but every demo has 3. I’d imagine you can do more
Great video, as always. Curious to know what camera you are using here as you are clearly traveling, and it looks great. Thanks! :)
Sony A7SIII BUT a new 50mm 1.4 GM lens seems to be the trick here
Being an Apple device user for almost 30 years I am used to seeing v1 of hardware products being very hobbled. It usually takes v.3 (v.2 in the case of the iPad) to live up to its basic potential. That would make the M4/R3 model the one to watch for. But you seem to have no reservations? Mr Cook says it replaces a powerful computer but gave no indication of the memory or storage capacity? ‘Sup?
While this is the first time Apple shows it to us, the first gen is actually back in 10 years ago. You are seeing the final form, any improvements in the next generation will be iterations.
Hallucinogen + vision pro = 😵💫🤯
That’s risky lol
Can you please let us know how the field of view was?
Good video did you mentioned you can record and take photos like your iPhone
I would like to know the EMF readings since it is on your face ... I am interested in safety with the M2 and the R1 chipsets so close to your head for periods of time.
When you did the FaceTime call did the person you were talking to look three dimensional? I ask this question because the demonstration that we saw shows the person’s head as being on a two dimensional flat panel. Could you expand the person’s head to occupy your full field of view so that the head appeared life-size?
I'm gonna say it. 24fps for your coverage is kinda nice, Dan!
24fps for life!
I'm legally blind. I have some vision, but not a ton. Apple's usually great at accessibility, but even so I wonder how well this will work for me. I'm eager to find out.
You'd mention that the audio from the headset is good, just wonder if you are the only one hearing from the headset or people around you could hear the same
People can hear it, just unsure how loud it is to them
@@macrumors that’s why in the demo, the lady on the plane need to wear AirPods 🤔
Guy who’s only ever used one other headset blown away by this headset. As a pseudo journalist it probably would have been a good idea to get familiar with the competition’s products from 2-3 years ago before contributing to the noise.
It’s not my usual space. We cover Apple here. Apple didn’t come out with a headset until just now. I’ve used some others but they all give me motion sickness so I don’t really like using them.
My opinion is still valid despite lack of experience physically using them. I still know a lot about them in general.
What is the field of view? can you see frames like in other googles? how is the IPD set? manual or maybe the screens are electric and movable?
As someone who is all in on the Apple ecosystem and an APPL shareholder, I watched the WWDC keynote with some trepidation, as I didn't see how another headset could be all that exciting. When it was over, I still wasn't sure what to think. It took me a while to digest just how different and capable this device is.
VP has been years in the making, and it shows. While the keynote did a good job of presenting this thing, Dan's (@MacRumors) review confirmed my feeling that this is the beginning of a major shift in the computing paradigm. Spatial computing seems an apt description.
I appreciate the genuine enthusiasm Dan brings to this initial review and I am really looking forward to trying it. In spite of the price, I think Apple has taken quite a large step forward by developing this platform.
The phrase is phantom sense, or phantom touch. VR tricks your brain into thinking you are feeling something based on what you're seeing.
That makes sense. It’s real I can assure you that.
Excellent overview. Thanks.
I can’t wait to get one !
Thank you Dan. How loud the audio is for someone next to you when you were watching a movie or in general? How does the audio behave when more than one are using headsets in the same room interacting with the same or different content?
I tried to get info on that but from what I gathered it’s probably like your phone. If it’s a quiet environment, people will probably hear it. Depends on what you’re doing too. Call? Probably not but movies might be audible
You can wear Airpods, they integrate well.
Love your content. Keep it goin!
Do you think there will be a DevKit before the public release of the device? I think they should have a DevKit in the $2000 range...
Is it a stand alone computer? I understand you can see your MacBook etc but I feel like everyone is missing the point. This can be its own discrete unit right?
Because part of the processing power goes to create the AR experience, it means it’s not gonna be able to run apps as well as a M2 Mac. i.e, I think we can forget Final Cut Pro running natively on the headset. We’re just gonna be able to virtualize a Mac screen running FCP, hence using the Mac’s computing power to run the app.
Thanks for the great review.. I am excited to know that the sound is so great, especially that it puts out good bass. I hope it mimics the Dolby Atmos that I get through my AppleTV and my 11.2 sound system setup. I assume you could use the Air Play for the sound to your AppleTV and have the sound go through your receiver set-up ? On my AppleTV app on my AppleTV box, I can select shows/movies, etc. from my other streaming services, like Netflix, Prime, etc. Will those still work on the AppleTV App on the Vision Pro ? Netflix has a good selection of Dolby Vision/Atmos movies that I would hate to loose. Anyway, I can't wait for Vision Pro to come out for sale. I will be on top of it ASAP after you can buy them in the Apple Online store or at my local Apple Store. CHEERS.
I want this for editing- if I can also use a mouse. I could edit laying down or sitting up and see things much larger. My eyes are getting old because I’m getting old…. This might help me see better. If it lessens my eye fatigue, gives me more comfort to relax and edit even laying down now and then / I’m all in
Sounds amazing ... judging from your excitement it was impressive.
I can see myself getting the first gen as soon as I see the resale value holding up. Or maybe I go for a refurbished model if the price is good.
Do you know if you’ll be able to link two units? I’m thinking about two folks watching a movie together..
I won't be buying one but I sure do want one now. My question: When they showed the video during WWDC, the person on the plane was wearing AirPods. Are they required to prevent people around being able to hear the content that would otherwise be coming from the Vision Pro? Is the VP speaker an actual speaker or bone conduction?
Great review, I’m one of the original iPhone people. The first one in line at my store. I agree with you, I see this as an iPhone moment.
How about magazines in Apple News+ that only have pics of the pages (like Mac Format). I rarely read articles on my MacBook Air due to having to zoom in to read text. How do magazines look in the Vision Pro? Is the small text readable?
Does Smellivion finally have a chance?
It’s crazy to imagine that, with this headset, nearsighted people such as myself will be able to see all of the digital elements completely crisp and clear, since they may appear to be a few foot away in your environment but are actually an inch from your eyes 🤯🤯 Feeling like I can see clearly would definitely be an emotional and exciting experience
That makes no sense 😂 it doesn‘t work like that
Great job, Dan! Just a question: since the product seems to be pretty solid even at this early stage, do you feel Apple could have let you use it a bit on your own? I mean, it seems you weren't even allowed to make a short video of you while trying it.
Yeah it was locked down. Nobody was allowed to shoot any video of it. Only anecdotes!
Were the visuals JUST LIKE the promo videos?
Yes but even better because of the immersion (buzzword of the day)
Wait….. it can record in 3D. So TH-cam should allow these 3D video uploads and those with headsets also see it in Apple 3D like the original upload…. Game changer for content creators!
Can I ask you a question about the sound quality? Were they outwards facing headphones, or where they actually really high quality.
Do the glass will crash as an iphone?😊
Home Entertainment includes being able to hook my gaming consoles to the Headset. Can I hook my PS5 or Switch up to this thing?
Any updates/comparisons to the Quest 3?
this needs to be the size of glasses to sale like phones, this is like the new vr set with og, just like in back to the future kids. when i saw that i knew that person knew that would be the future as i
So it's an all in one Mac for your face! Display, audio included for only $3499!
Still decide with your wallet. It is definitely not a must have device if you have mac, phone, display, tv, etc. already. But if you have spare money why not?
Nice job. Hey Dan ... since it can act as a display for a mac, can you use a mac studio with it WITHOUT having to buy a mac studio display?
I dont know how the connection is going to work with that. Apple demoed in the keynote just looking at your MacBook and it will connect and display in Vision Pro but not sure how that works with Mac Studio
@@macrumors Thanks for the reply. I would appreciate if you ask them in your future communications with them. Tx
I’m buying two of them. One to use and the other sell on EBay for like $15k.
Very excited about it, the price is not that expensive. I just need to know if I can use it with Microsoft Windows as well. If not I am gonna keep working with a metaquest 3.