Exploring the Existence of Being
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ธ.ค. 2023
- In this discussion exploring being and existence a questioner says that when she asks herself the question, ‘Am I aware?’ she always feels unsure of the answer. She says she feels it’s because of her ingrained scepticism that she doubts her own experience.
Rupert says It's very good that you're so sceptical and that you doubt everything. But in order to doubt anything, there must be being, because doubt is. If there is doubt, there is being. The fact that doubt exists, is itself the evidence of being.
The fact that you can say there is an appearance means there is something. And if there is something, something must be - you couldn't have something in the absence of being. Now, if we can say that with absolute certainty, being must be known. How could we assert that being is, if being is not known? That's based on undeniable experience. Just ponder that. Don't jump to conclusions. Don't believe anything I say. But don't let your scepticism run ahead too quickly.
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0:00 Am I Aware?
1:57 Referring To ‘i’
2:48 Exploring Being
3:59 The Experience Of Being
4:58 The Only Fact Of Experience
6:12 Being Is Not In Doubt
7:30 Does Something Exist?
9:45 Proof That Being Is
10:50 The Only Certainty
11:29 Being Must Be Known
12:52 A Beautiful Koan
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Ever patient Rupert ❤
It is a superpower of his that's for sure
There's no Rupert ❤
The room deserves apraise too.
I admire that patience too
@@phantomhawk01😂😂😂😂😂
This is the best Rupert video I have seen yet. Her reticence to answering his questions is the characteristic of most people’s minds. She’s just way more honest than most
It's interesting because hurdle #1 is actually the last hurdle as well, perhaps the only hurdle.
This is turning the light of awareness inward or "Vipasana." Sustaining (stabilizing) the question is "Shamatha."
Ultimately the two are recognized as one moment called being.
Thanks for hanging in there Rupert 🙏
Beautiful. I can relate to this young lady's mind. I spent the first 37 years of my life telling anyone who would listen that 'science disproves all this new-age nonsense.' But then I decided to REALLY dive into science only to find that there is very little friction between the two. I wonder if anyone can relate to this roller coaster I seem to be on lately? I'll listen to Rupert in every free hour I have. His words resonate and make me 'remember' what and who I truly am. I'll meditate and investigate. Then three weeks pass by and I fall back into unconscious 'living'. It always ends in disaster and after a month or so, I'm back here again. I guess it's part of my 'journey' and I do feel like the unconscious 'drifting' is getting shorter in duration.
Rant over. God bless you all.
I get what you have written only the hardened mind brings this aspect of phenomena forwards. Cheers
I can relate very much with what you've written. Reality is nonlinear but all paths share common markers like the ones you're describing. Unconscious 'drifting' happens less and less 'here' as well. All the best on your journey, we can't fail either way :-)
"Guarda roupa cheio não cabe roupa nova." Do Brazil, com amor e carinho❤
Like the other commenter stated, the periods of returning to unconsciousness happens less and less as spiritual insight is integrated into our “normal” and everyday experiences. What you are going through is very typical of a spiritual awakening!
I can fully understand what you are writing. The challenge is to be aware the whole time 24x7. But I guess that this is really not very easy.
So patient is Rupert.
This is a good example of skepticism which denies everything except its own persistent doubt. She has full confidence in her doubt and chooses not to doubt her doubts. A true skeptic on the other hand doubts the doubt as well as the doubter. When you question every thought, you are left in a state of total confusion, which then brings you to silence.
Go on Miss. One last step!
This kind of profound questioning of reality may also lead to madness.
wonderful
When Rupert asked her to be silent, I achieved Nirvana.
When you posted this I achieved cutting thru b.s.
A Real Teacher , full of patience , Love and Understanding 🙏
Rupert once again brillant with a powerful, subtil being mind...
In truth this episode is the very first existencial question of all
Human being❤ thank you Rupert....
This is why Rupert is one of the most incredible people I have ever met. So grateful ✨🙏🏼✨
When we speak of existence, we must acknowledge the existence of nonexistence. I think this young ladies skepticism is based on the realization that when using language , existence is just another concept to be questioned. In many ways her dubiousness of an " I " has her ironically on the right track.
Non-existente must exist. Great analysis. We can’t go beyond Existence.
It's alright, Ma, it's life and life only.
Fantastic video. A few of my thoughts…
It sounds like this person’s skepticism could potentially be also a case of being lost in thought. For example, the skepticism is saying “how can I really know X?” That’s a thought. What is experience without reference to thinking about it?
Additionally, skepticism needs to be pointed at itself as well. We can be skeptical that it is possibly to know anything absolutely. However, true skepticism would allow for the possibility that we CAN know something absolutely. We don’t know whether we can or can’t. So, we’re open to both possibilities.
Additionally, the questioner may rightfully have problems with asserting absolute truth to any concept formulated via language. I sympathize with this, and tend to agree. For, language and symbols have all kinds of limitations and are not the thing itself. What do you *really* mean by “being” and “is”, etc. And yet, it’s all we have to talk about such matters. ”If you call this a short staff, you oppose its reality. If you do not call it a short staff, you ignore the fact. Now what do you wish to call this?”
We can doubt everything about experience, except the experience itself. You see a red car in a dream at night, and you can rightfully doubt its reality. But the ineffable qualia we may call “the subjective experience of seeing a red car” is beyond doubt. It is empirically true.
Further, it’s a great point that not only is there the subjective experience, but we can only be absolutely sure of its being due to the knowing of it. That was a profound point and deserves much contemplation.
Peace and blessings to all ❤
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone with that fundamental level of resistance to such simple logic and evidence of experience. Rupert was masterful at holding her hand in getting through that.
Brilliant! Another masterpiece! Thanks for sharing Rupert!
After the session the girls mind goes: So there is something and something that knows and something that knows that something knows that there is something and something knows all the previous and I AM watching all off this😂
Rupert is sooo patient. I just wish the young woman would take a few breaths to let his answer come in perhaps even sink in a little. She seems filled with resistance. Just listen young lady and be silent for a koment
Reactive mind is STRONG...
The statement “I don’t know” is a claim of knowledge - the knowledge of one’s existence, of the question, and of not knowing the answer.
Yes, but this is sophistry. A person saying “I don’t know” in response to some question is saying they don’t know the answer to that question. They’re not saying that they don’t know anything at all.
I appreciate the questions being asked. Have struggled with the same skepticism and confusion. Do I really exist? How can I be sure? Now I am thankful for the way Rupert explains stepwise and gives an opening to possibly help realize what 'I' is. Grateful to both, the questioner and to Rupert. Only wish this interaction did not end so soon.
@@joajoajbYou missed the point. Even illusion is _something_ . Hence there is being.
Why do you have to be sure? Lol, these type of questions are absurd to me. Personally, I don’t try to ”solve” life or make it into a problem. I just treat it like the great mystery it will always be. And aleast to me that gives great joy and fulfillment. And in happiness one doesn’t care weither one exists or not. The question doesn’t aply to life. So there is no answer to it. Closest to truth would be to say that you both exist and not exist, and at the same time you’re beyond those distinctions. Same goes for existence itself, it’s all one. But in the end, no words can ever express truth, so this answer is complete nonsence as well. In fact no one ever know what so called truth is. And I don’t even understand what the word ”truth” suppose to mean in the spiritual realm. But you can indeed feel great intimacy with existence when mind is silent. I guess that is what ”spiritual truth” means. It’s a ”thing” to experince, to feel. No way mind can grasp that. The so called truth resides outside the realm of mind. ❤️😊
@@snickaren111 Hmmm... I understand your point of view intellectually. But for me it does not resolve the 'who am I' question experientially. Thanks for your reply. Stay happy.
@@youssefalaoui4286but the sense of I comes from the mind right?I know I exist because of my mind..in deep sleep I don't feel like that feeling of "being"is there.The feeling of being is absent in deep sleep why's that?
@@hououinkyouma8135 In advaita teaching there is a small “I” and a big “I”. The small I is the sense of being a person. The big I is impersonal and is the awareness in the background. The big I is always “on”, while the small I needs to sleep.
That there is doubt to experience is evidence that there is something to experience that doubt. And who is that one experiencing?
Brilliant work.
Wonderful teaching ! 🙏
She's literally telling him "no self" and he's insisting that there's a self.
She is right, she doesn’t exist, no thing exists, all apparent appearance is the activity of awareness/knowing/consciousness/God/I am/I, isn’t this what Rupert usually teaches?
I need more supply of that Humble pie. The cheat code❤️🔥 is reveling in humility. I used to curse God for what seemed like purposely humbling me to begging him to never stop. And never let me feel arrogance. I find myself throughout the day remembering and sometimes I have to remind myself that EVERYTHING Good about me comes directly from SOURCE and EVERYTHING bad about me comes directly from me as a personal individual.
This is really an amazing and fantastic video, thank you very much for it. It is extremely interesting, because in order always to be aware of our existence, we need to feel it. It is not a solution to know it mentally like ok I am breathing that's why I exist. Sometimes in my opinion it is not so easy, especially in uncomfortable situations. The ability always to be aware, not only in situations, which we like and enjoy, is the highest level- meaning it is the highest state always to be aware independent of the situation.
She doesn’t doubt her own scepticism. So this is the minds final standpoint for her. She holds to a projection of what total beingness is and this blinds her to the experience.
The doubt is known....
Pain is a very sure indicator of the existence of I. I think we are too comfortable, and this perhaps allows this kind of over analysing and lack of intuition. This young woman seems lovely none the less and I hope she finds peace and joy.
Great observation😁
I understand her. This demonstrates the power of beliefs and deep conditioning. We simply need to check in again and again and again with our experience until the "mind" accepts certain direct and otherwise obvious aspects of our direct experience❤.
This clip reminds me of the bit "Who's on first". 😊
Maybe it's the re - "membering" of experience that perpetuates this tiresome continuous loop.
Maybe one should forget and land in the moment. 💙
There is only being.
Very good question and one that is hard to articulate. She did very well.
This is a perfect example of how this understanding needs a certain degree of development of the ego. The ego can be released only when it is mature enough.
It takes being to feel just being if not anything else.
the legend of doctor spira full of wisdom , i could listen to him for hours
Doubt the doubt
How so sweet ❤
Experience by the Heart!
She will continue asking these questions until she realize that she can’t use the mind to find the ultimate reality of all existence.
Intellectual realisation of one’s true nature is very much possible.
@@joajoajbi think what you might be alluding to is the paradox of experience. We are both knowers and un-knowers. We know deeply what Truth is, yet are completely naive to how that Source can possibly transmit it. I agree that Rupert could display more humility to ingratiate himself, but I don’t believe he “misunderstood” the question, I just think he’s transcended the paradox, or at least has accepted it, which the young woman doesn’t appear to be able to currently.
@@joajoajb an interesting perspective, thank you 🙏🏻 and be well
@@joajoajb, your reading is interesting. He may mean: "Only the Knowing Itself is real." On the other hand, how can there be a knowing of thoughts if the Knowing cannot know the finite?
@@joajoajb you pointed out very well, what I felt 😊
Beautiful!
This is brilliant
Please say yes...priceless...humour keeps it light
I haven't got time to explore the existence of being because I've got too many things to do every day! And if they didn't get done then life would become even more of a burden than it already is!
You do it in experience life everyday
Without the existence of being would you be able to do the many things you do everyday?
Is doing the many things in life separate from the existence of being?
Whether the things in life get done or not are you still the existence of being?
Who hasn't got time to explore the existence of being. Does existence need time to explore it's own existence?
Without the thought "life would become even more of burden" who would you be?
Ponder these
@@bam2385 Yeah, but you have to admit that spirituality is no different from politics insofar as to become either a politician or a spiritual teacher you don't need any real qualifications or previous experience and you can word things in any way you want as to make them sound impressive, relevant and truthful. They both simply 'explain away' this so-called 'reality' with essentially meaningless words while 'the actual show goes on' according to the dictates of those who from behind the facade are REALLY manipulating/running it (and NOT in our own interests either!).
@@robinhood6954 realisation is an inner experience and has nothing to do with the outside world.
Ultimately it boils down to how badly do you want truth. If spirituality is only recreational or entertainment then you will not have any deep experience and everything will be superficial. If you really want truth then your own discrimination will be able to know the teachers who speak from their own true experience and others only from head knowledge with no experience.
If your earnest and put truth first in your life you will be lead to the right teaching or scripture.
@@bam2385 Interestingly enough I was led to it from an early age. I started with the Evans Wentz versions of the 'Tibetan Book of the Dead' and the 'Tibetan Book of the Great Liberation' etc., and later read 'The "Life Story of Padma Sambhava'. And it went on from there. Then I became more politically aware and realised that we've all been told porkies about EVERYTHING from the very beginning. ☝️
A further Argument (borrowd by Francis):
There is something rather than nothing.
Is this true?
Yes, because of no human being ever could report credibly , that he/she had made an experience of "Nothing".
Because of to experience "nothing", there must necessarily be "something", and this is not "nothing".
This is the real teacher and is very interesting the doubt to know the reality
love it 💚
I think the lady is raising a genuine question and Rupert is somehow finding himself inadequate to answer it. I have heard truly realized people (this lady may be one herself) being unable to refer to themselves as "I" most of the time. They say "this body" instead. When such people are asked what will happen to them when they die, they usually say that they have always been here and will always be here. One lady (Amritanandamayee Maa) said, "Where can I go?" They just do not identify with the body, and this is the essence of Advaita Vedanta as well. The basic teaching is that our essential nature is consciousness, and it does not share the limits or the destiny of our minds and bodies. In other words, we are like the cinema screens on which movies are being played; the screen is not affected by anything happening on the screen (bombs exploding, fire, blood, gunshots, etc.).
Beautiful, Very nice, isn't there potential before existence?
The awareness with which you know that you are is the potential…prior to the thought I Am. Primary is that realization... secondary is the thought, the beginning of the story that appears and disappears in the I Am.
Wow. I am not patient
Being is the essence.
Existence is the essence.
The question how do I know that I exist? will also spontaneously answer, who is it that dies?
Before I even watch or read about this clip, I like to experiment to know I am of oneness mode.
There is a thing called the circadian body rhythm, whereas some guy sat around in observence and contemplation of Nature. There is a Chinese body chart clock, that when the 1 body is listened closely to, instructuons of the 'when' patterns arre revealed. 💙🌱
Of course, I come back to answer my own questions in the comments often. For who am I?, conversing with anyways buy my tru self.😊
Once again, it's a "what is memory?" inquiry. For I can only forget who I Am.
Maybe, it's the re-membering that make for a perpetual loop.
Maybe I should forget what I've been, because it's not of the NOW anyways.
.....all roads land at meditation, stillness, silence. 🎉
@@wattaura7621 I am on the edge of freewill but feel separate from oneness. Synchronicity
It takes a very deep-seated habit of contrarianism in order to deny the one fundamentally evident thing, and i wish her speed in coping with it. I hope she asks herself who she is saving from error, and perhaps more importantly, why?
It’s easier start thinking that Being is, but from what I’m not, and then Being stands from direct experience. If he had asked her - if you are not this and that, then remsins only Being.
She gave Rupert a gift, an opportunity to reenact the Cartesian insight-I think therefore I am. I doubt therefore I am. Savapriananda tells the story of the washerman who uses a diamond to clean clothing on a rock. Ignorance doesn’t recognize the absolute preciousness of the consciousness it is. That thou art.
❤️☀️🌙very sweet
It is a beautiful question, yes we can doubt our experiences too .
Imagine she’s an LLM or an AI agent. It speaks to you, follows the logic and reason but can not experience anything.
She's aware that she's not sure that she's aware.
Is the answer analogous to "I think therefore I am"?
Yes, i can make the experience of beeing. I feel, experience that there is something. But how can i experience that this is to be true even after death?
Where is the rest of this conversation?
I think what she is trying to say is that -- " I can't identify myself with this body or mind or anything inside the body" that " I can't find myself anywhere inside or outside" in that case, she would be quite right. Non identification of the I with body is a sign of spiritual advancement.
you can only experience everything as you are right now, 😅
5:08 👌🏻✌🏻
There is a fine line between skepticism and complete denial which then wouldnt be skepticism at all as shes not skeptic about her denials…
It is the same thought, dream, consciousness and illusory self that is thought to be, but it is nothing because it is only a dream in a thought.
If nothing exists and it is only a thought, is the thought real?
Consciousness is in thought along with dream, outside of that there is nothing but stillness, peace and silence.
thought and thought and between those two thoughts is nothingness, stillness, peace and silence.
If understanding comes, although in reality nothing has to come because you already are that.
💛is lT Not Obvious that it lS the sense mind that Always entangle itself in its own confusion since the sense mind is of dualistc tendencncies.. and to S t e p out of the sense mind and it's tendencies of confusion lS to Be-Come STILL.. "Be Still and Know That l in the midst of thee AM God".. or That l AM The Living Reality of Y-our Being ..and That l AM lS The Formeless SPIRIT Not a thought Not something Tengible Yet The L🌅i g h t of The PURE Knowing , Hence to Be STILL lS to K n o w that l Eternaly AM .. without Nothing added🙏
Deniability is the first step to Death. This means you are too attached to temporary delusions. As they are temporary they are bound to die. In a way knowing yourself is to make this strong deniability more and more porous with self inquiry and experience. It’s okay to question but honesty is required if you are truly seeking. Otherwise it’s comforting your arrogance which only promotes ignorance further and hence the death.
I still don't understand how this happened. She knew she was "being skeptical" right from the start. 🤷♂
Doubt is good but it need to be free from the leash… otherwise you turn into madness
I think, therefore I am
Very basic
THE NAME OF IT , IS CALLED THE ISNESS OF SOURCE THE FABRIC OF CREATIVITY THE INFINITISM OF THE INFINITE FAMILY THE CO CREATORS OF THE UNIVERSE . IT SIMPLY JUST IS AND SIMPLY JUST ARE
Because she can’t label it, she THINKS it doesn’t exist 😂
I feel for her. She could do with some psilocybin, loosen the hold her mind has over her experience.
I can’t take that woman anymore. I hope she’s honest about her skepticism.
Ever patient Rupert, indeed.
It's almost she wants to convince herself she is stuck... like here mind has found the ultimate defense mechanism 😅 if this was really what she thought or felt she wouldn't even have had the interest to investigate this, I think...
How Do I Know That I Exist?
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Seems to me that all is energy. The universe is an infinite field of energy.
So.......
The universe is infinite. If it wasn’t then somewhere out there all that dark space would have to become something other than space. What could replace the space? Nothing could replace it so it must go on forever - hence infinity.
What’s infinite has no boundaries and cannot be measured (or it wouldn’t be infinite.) Infinity doesn’t stop where “you” start - there can’t be infinity + “me.” So all there is, is infinity expressing itself in different shapes and patterns but all of those shapes and patterns never being anything other than THE TOTALITY or THE ABSOLUTE.
The experience of The Absolute is the experience of ONENESS - (That which we all desire whether we know it or not.)
Here’ seems to be the key:
95% of the universe is space. So if you want to experience ONENESS you have to include in awareness what 95% of the totality is! The space three or four feet around your body is EXACTLY the same space as the space a billion lightyears away! There is no place where the space here joins the space there. When you are CONSCIOUSLY aware of the space around you the experience is of ONENESS - which is all there truly is.
Seeing this and remaining consciously aware of the space around you is vital to your sense of wellbeing and your happiness. What you are is infinity appearing as a separate individual, but never being anything other than infinity. The only problem with being in this state is dealing with the constant stream of people wondering what you seem to be so happy about!
so......
IF YOU WANT A HAPPY FACE, YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THE SPACE!!
The lady Is lost. She does not know the fact that she Is
or- exploring the being of existence....
One can ask questions that are syntactically sound, but lack semantic validity. Such questions are nonsense.
“Nothing at all is justified by being “, Max Stirner,1844/2017 Landstreicher translation: “The Unique and Its Property.” Nothing to see here. The “creative nothing “ still as good as it gets.
even a mirage is real....its just not what it seems...😂
I think that this question has no ground and logic and her question confirms her illogical argue. Besides she seems to be impatient, interruptiv and simply annoying attendant in this dialogue with Rupert.
Young and very skeptical. Refuses to acknowledge her experience. Too much intellectualizing. As she grows older, her life experiences will overcome skepticism.
I'm first
Great stuff. Incredible. Congratulations!
Yah
You are 1,..... I Am 1 would be more accurate.😊
Just sit back ... relax ... and realize ... NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR #1 ...
Existence is absurd to the rational mind. Even awareness is absurd and ungraspable. Why it has to be the way it is, itslef absurd. Its the theatre of absurdity. Hah! The awareness itself depends on the belief that it exist. If one beliefs it does not exist it won't exist. Even if awareness, independent of human mind, exists, it's ungraspable. We experience and not experience it at the same time. If one forces some one by asking "are you aware?' There has to be an answer. One just utters to say either 'yes' or 'no', not necessaily from any sort of 'knowledge' or experience, or intuition. Experience itself is undefinable... Thus there can be no 'certainity' in the answere of yes or no to the question, until one adopts it as a belief. It sounds like this yes or no answer to the question ' r u aware?' comes from a belief like any belief, when one holds it sound to be the only truth, it would appear to do so, otherwise vanish from the scene. Belief is the root of all 'evils' as well as existence, I guess. All this, still, a myestry!!
She is not listening at all, that is problem.
Yeah, her mind jumps in before Rupert's words have a chance to sink in...
when i say "I'AM" i experience my sex (male or female)
She speaks and does not listen.
Non player character
lady does not allow RS to speak
She's in the wrong place. She needs a psychiatrist
What's this all about? Are people trying to become bees? Sheesh. What's next.
Zoomers…
You only experience though knowledge. If you do not have the knowledge of experience, then there would not be an experience or experiencer. That "being" is within the framework of what I know. You cannot speak on "being" if their is truth of it somewhere. Impossible. This is all made up assumptions.
This young lady knows too much for her own good. She, like millions of people make spirituality extremely complicated when they don't have to. First, listen to the teacher. He or she is the teacher for a reason. Secondly, get out of your own head and follow the instructions of the teacher. At that moment, they have knowledge and / or experience you don't have yet. Thirdly, practice operating by faith in what the instructor has given until you move from faith to knowing. "The unfolding of the word gives light"
Girl has a really strong reactive mind...hope she finds her 'way out'...
So little respect to continually interrupt and talk over the person to whom you’re asking a question, while attending his seminar. I’m sure she’s a perfectly fine person but someone needs to talk to her about conversational manners.
Sounds like the blind leading the blind. And people pay money for this?
Don't watch if you don't like it. There's no one that I've ever watched that explains thing as well as Rupert. Yes, he struggled a bit with this one, but his ability to explain things is so on point. If you have people who explain things better in ways that make more sense to you, then great, go watch them. But don't trash Rupert and the way he explains things. I gave up on spirituality and all of this years ago, and then I found Rupert and came back into learning more about spirituality because of the way he teaches.
He's the blind one. She just needs glasses to see that a salesman like Rubert is only selling mirrors to the blind.
Sounds like someone is full of themselves...
Well Mr Zen Master, it sounds an awful lot like youre judging. Not particularly zen, I don’t think.
@@stevej.7926 He's Zen Master My Ass