@@aidosbakhyt6978 пошёл он на хер не обращай внимание. Даже если напишем конкретно что мы внуки этих Казахов что он может против сказать. Это история мы казахи защитили мәкеу и ещё флаг на верстах поставили наши деда.
Well, there are a few problems. A tank would never advance without any infantry support. You simply cannot secure ground or trenches with tanks alone. This is also vice versa.
"In war, during firefights, if you're running and you're still on the run amid the blast around you, then keep running to the objective. If you suddenly drop, and you can still talk, encourage the objective and say goodbye to your mama" 😭💪
someone should tell these film makers the german tanks had machine guns and used to hammer the trench line plus the germans had mortar teams who would set up the tubes quickly and start plastering defences as soon as they opened up, for the first 3 years the germans were virtually unbeatable
Unbeatable? In 1941 December the Siberian motorized divisions made a huge gap in german lines, in 1942 November operation Uranus steamrolled the 6 army. Unbeatable when?
zaw zaw Yes but now it is evil monster putin sending his troops to invade the Ukraine and the Ukrainian soldiers and people are fighting to defend their nation! Shame on putin
@@user-lg1cl1tv3h В отличие от тебя - я как раз знаю настоящую историю. А это не более чем выдумка советской пропаганды от начала и до конца. То есть - ложь. Не было там ни такого количества танков, и панфиловцев было не 28, а наоборот- их после боя осталось 30 человек живых и по факту многие из "погибших панфиловцев" пережили войну.
Tell me how 28 men stopped a whole german tank division with infantry? A experienced division from polish and french campaign with very good commanders. Answers is Simple, they cant do this, so its a myth of propaganda.
@@Turloghan никакого пропаганды нет, открой историю и прочитай, у нас стоит огромный памятник на этом месте боев, миф отсутствует, когда человек сражается на смерть.
"I have watched the most shocking World War II movie"... No, sorry, this is basically propaganda (as is most Russian and US war films) "Come and See" is far, far more shocking.
Its based on true events. Ww2 soviets cannot compare with Putin's occupation legions in Ukraine. I see modrrn Ukrainian soldiers fighting as soviets in the movie, and germans in the movie represents Putins army.
As far as I remember, in the first two years of the war in the USSR, the Germans did not attach caterpillar tracks to their tanks, and there was also no fire from onboard machine guns
also VERY boring at times, some scenes seem to drag out forever. Very disturbing stuff also in there but i couldnt watch it without fast forwarding some parts.
The guy firing the PM M1910 (Maxim) machine gun used up 75 seconds at full cyclic rate (600 rpm x 1.25 min.) or 750 rounds, or three 250-round belts without pausing to change empty belts and he had three rounds to spare. Not even Hollywood can do better!!
From all of the wars our great grandfathers and grandfathers fought in and the modern wars we have had the appetites never seems to be quenched,, with the situation in the Ukraine,, once you all fought against nazis in the great patriotic war,, and now the brink of destruction is near,, don't we learn anything from the martyrs on memorial statues all over the world,, ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️from Northern Ireland great movie,,,
They fought against Nazis, then allowed a group of them to coopt their government and instigate the war they are now it. Don't get me wrong I mourn for the innocent dead on both sides of this conflict, but the picture being portrayed by western media isn't even accurate to the things they were reporting about at the time of ukrn's split.
3:14 minute of the movie - we can clearly see that this is a radio-controlled model - it is so light that it is not able to apply adequate pressure to the ground. In this movie, a lot of models were used. But despite the fact that we can still see that it is only a model and not a real tank, it still looks more realistic than CGI, which is often exaggerated to the point of absurdity, such as in the movie "T-34". The model is just a model, not a real tank - but still at least literally physical and not artificial like the CGI. Well done to the creators! Other makers should follow an example. Viewers are already overloaded with artificial exaggerated and brought to the limit of absurd computer graphics - we prefer something realistic! :)
Well, that movie was crowdfunded and produced by the team of enthusiasts. At the very end they recived some funding from ministry of culture but thats it, so give this movie some slack fellas.
My reaction to this film is positive, I don't avoid constructive criticism, but I emphasize its good points. I definitely prefer models rather than exaggerated to the point of absurd CGI. The Matrix is a good sci-fi movie, Star Wars is also spectacular, but squeezing such effects into war movies is a failure. Even movies like Tora Tora Tora (1970), where there are models (and real planes) is 10x better than modern movies like Midway (2019) or T-34 (2019). Not to mention the legendary Battle of Britain (1969) or Liberation "Освобождение" (1970), where there are real planes and tanks, even gems such as real German Panther, StuG III, Hetzer and original anti-aircraft guns and artillery, due to the fact that after WWII a lot of this equipment remained in Czechoslovakia. I don't know what budget and possibilities the filmmakers of the Panfilov's 28 had, but they did better job than many biggest high-budget studies, which by taking the CGI level to the point of absurdity, destroyed their own movies. The fact that sometimes you can see that this is a model and not a real tank is only a statement of an obvious fact, but after what the creators have shown, with some more possiblities they will certainly refine the technique, and we can expect even better movies to come:)
This is a truly excellent battle scene. I imagine that this is a mere representation of what war was like for both sides, the petty arguments about interpretation and authenticity should pale into insignificance when one realises how much courage was needed to put up with anything that even came close to the real thing.
@@xealit Who told you that? Probably Western historians? The battle near the village of Dubosekovo, which was led by a division of the Panfilov division, is confirmed by archival data. Go learn a normal story.
@@user-ql5gj5fq7r it was actually called a fabrication by Soviets authorities themselves soon after the war (1948). Somehow not all 'heroes' were dead, even the commander got arrested by NKVD for treason... Learn history yourself. The movie is of course also trash - like Germans were marching like dolls to be moved by a machine guns... yeah, sure
Слава советскому солдату..мой дед Матвеенко Иван Дмитриевич призывался с Алма -аты воевал в Панфиловский дивизии.погиб под Москвой.вечная память героям.
@@pierfrancescocusati9619 thats the same shit that mr. Hitler said, when he started II WW. Russia acts like nazis now. How did that end for whole world? Go and ask Putin about human rights in Russia 😂 about gey's rights etc...
Well, probably only those that were made without goverment support. Panfilov's 28 was made from the russian folks financial support and with a help of Gajin company, that is known for making War Thunder. That's why it looks so good. Wish we could've seen more movies like this, and not bs like "T-34" movie (or basically any other movie made with goverment support)
Maybe you've already seen it, but if not go watch Come and See. From 1984, I think, but it's a fantastic movie. That and Rzhev. Unbelievably good. I also like Star, but it's not so heart wrenching, although based on a true story (I think).
@@user-oz4yc8ob2q In fact it has all happened in reality. Sad that you, kazakh, betrayed your own kazakh heroes, who has bravely fought and died in this fight at Dubosekovo.
You have now 19.000 new ruskij "heroes" died on invasion Ukraine starting in 02.2022. VERY impressive amonut. 12.000 bodys of them are destroyed in Rusdisn creamatores beyond war line. You should be happy, You have many new "heroes" mass murdering Ukrainians childs and women in public executions,
@@maciekmazur4521 and before that German and Poland attack Czechoslovakia and took territory and Poland that territory was occupied from Ukraine and belorus that stalin returned in the 39 like Finland took Soviet territory karelia in the 1917 and stalin returned in the 39 and Japan empire took Russian territory kurilian Iceland and stalin was returned in the 45 , British and France make deal with nazi germany and Italy before USSR that Britain France and usa was helping the germans for making weapons factories and billions from American billionaires and American government makes political repression against Charlie Chaplin because he made movies great dictator about hitter and political repression against other Americans who not like hitter.... and the America denied entry to Jewish people who was run away from nazi euro also George bush,' grandfather have had a oil tankers and he asked to Hitler Jewish workers for free(slaves) in the tankers were working was very dangerous because of poisoning. And after war the Poland was occupied 3 German regions and make ethnic cleaning and genocide of German civilians and usa burn Dresden and Kyoto used napalm bombs. Like said American president Truman: for as is good many killed Soviets and germans we must help Germany and the Soviets in that .
Is it just me or does the soundtrack sound like it’s been made in a studio to dub over the original sound? Loads of sound effects missing, speech missing etc.
Кровь стынет в жилах, когда смотришь на эти кадры.!Вот так запросто со штыками,топорами,на вооружённого врага..!Это какая воля и самоотверженность должна быть..?Это уму не постижимо.Мы не имеем права забыть их подвиг.!ВЕЧНАЯ ПАМЯТЬ,и ВЕЧНАЯ СЛАВА Нашим Воинам.!
Героизм заключается в защите своей Родины. - Сегодня Россия является агрессором... Heroism lies in defending one's homeland. - Today, Russia is the aggressor ... Heldentum liegt darin seine Heimat zu verteidigen. - Heute ist Russland der Agressor ...
@@sergey1583 ты ещё не мобилизован? Тогда путин идёт за тобой. Единственные фашисты сегодня это русские твари. Говорю тебе, как человек, проживающий в Буче, и потерявший много знакомых. История про 28, 38 или там 58 панфиловцев это выдумка .
@@beastschalk The regiment participated in the battle, more than 100 people were killed. A list of 28 soldiers is used on the monument. This is a real 28 people.
6 выжили и это победа! Остановить и выжить! Читал как Норвежец говорил о русских бойцах! Я живу в северной Норвегии, но даже не мог понять, как он, солдат СССР может спать в - 40, в шинели и окопе, а потом воевать. Я замёрз, я не шевелился, а на штыковую пошёл! Как?!
@@MsLodir Для самых тупых: во время ВОВ коммунисты, ( Советские граждане. Там и твои предки были если что, и мои ) бились с напавшими на на них фашистами. А сейчас все фашисты. И Россия, и Украина.
The greatest movie I've ever seen in my life about the Great Patriotic War! I spent about two years promoting it on social networks and got into the credits of the film.
Are these the same Russians who had a treaty with Hitler for 2 years whilst they divided up Poland and various other countries? Also, WW2 lasted for 6 years not just the 4 that Russia took part in.
@@marosrokyta8292 такой страны как Польша никогда небыло . Это просто Иосиф Виссарионович Сталин разрешил вам на время границу себе нарисовать.... Польша это вымысел.
You just feel bad they retaliated and settled things... Anyways, what are your views about a freak with no shirt shooting down helicopters with a bow n arrow, then killing an army with tiny colt pistol...sure thats realistic huh?
@@visionary_8865 I have never heard that Rambo was based on official reports... I am sure I saw that book in "Fiction" section in a library... Unlike the supposedly frontline reports printed in newspapers...
@@maximblinkov1287 If you think "ONLY" 27M Soviets died in WII, you're sorely mistaken. FIrst of all, no one knows the real number, but estimates suggest it's 45 million dead ON THE LOW END. Assume everything you read about Soviets in WWII, written before 2000 to be propaganda. Which is the point here - the talk is about the movie, which even looks like it's the product of fiction. As is the official wartime reporting - after the war to be investigated and proven to be almost complete fabrication (for example - 6 people of the 28 survived and some were taken prisoner and after that joined Germans).
@@nikitadovidchenko6336 Don't get your pants twisted... dude. Poland lost about 20% of pre-war population, 45 mil is just under 25% of 1941 USSR population. Taking into account that fighting was much more brutal on the Eastern Front, especially for civilians, this number is not impossible.
You dont have to fully cycle a PTRD (the big anti tank rifle) because the action automatically cycle backward when you fire and eject the spent case. But you have to put in a new live round and close the bolt manualy... So it is not really accurate...
Tank mortars are tar more destructive than that. A mortar blowing up so close would create a Shockwave and heat that would deafen and blind you before causing a yon of fractures and 8nternal bleeding
@@federicofelici9703I mean it depends on the size of the charge, but yeah quite likely to be honest. The chemical compound explosives being utilised in the second world war were all very modern and by that measurement held a stupendous amount of energy within them. I know that I wouldn't want to be anywhere near one that was going to explode.
I was in the army but I was never in the front. Guys who got the Bronze Star in general never want to talk about it. That is the ones from Viet Nam. On the other hand in most cases infantry guys from WW 2 talked about their experiences in a matter of fact way and told it the way it happened. One WW 2 vet said that when he pulled the pin on the grenade, he had to wait a couple of seconds to let the timer run down. He said Germans were very gifted at picking up grenades thrown at them and throwing it back from where it came from. He said that they would aim high for an area so that the falling flak from the grenade would cause casualties. One Vet told me that in the film "It's a Wonderful Life", George Bailey was 4F because he couldn't hear in one ear. He told me that in 1940 he was called down to the draft board and was deferred because he had a problem with one of his arms and he could barely hear in one of his ears. He had a really good job in a factory at the time. Than in early 1942 they called him back to the draft board and they checked him out again and told him that they would put him in the artillery because "with the bad ear, what difference would it make and if he could work on the line in the factory with his arm, he'll do just fine in the army." I asked him even though he had those problems they still put him in. In his own words, "That was World War 2. Back then, if you were breathing you were going." He was in France 2 days after Normandy and had to battle the Germans in France as an infantry man. His unit along with others came into Holland. He said the Dutch people were glad to see them but they kept their distance because the soldiers had not bathed for a few days. So what the people did was, each family would invite a soldier into their home and let him wash up. Food there at the time there was not in full supply. The soldiers reciprocated by giving the people what they had saved from their C Rats, or things like cigarettes which all was highly valued. I would never embellish anything or make up a story up how I served and fought in the infantry. Wise not to pretend being a combat Vet nowadays. With the internet it's easy to it check out.
I think it's an interesting difference between vets from Vietnam and those from WWII. Those from WWII had a clear goal and enemy. The people at home knew it and they knew what they're fighting for. In their own eyes it justifies their actions. Those in Vietnam had many doubts as to why they were there, people at home thought the same so there wasn't any heroes welcome. The veterans felt confused and eventually it came down to getting all back home again for them.
@@darkjester53 Exactly, in my country the boys that came back werent allowed to drink in the Returned soldiers club for many years, disgracefull how the WW2 soldiers treated the Vietnam soldiers.
Not true my late father was on Russian front and never talked about it till close to when he passed away found out only small details Ive spoken to ex Vietnam vets and they spoke freely about it ..
Why is there no infantry support for the tanks? No way a tank will keep driving over the trenches like we see here. This panzer is deliberately isolating himself, making him an easy target. This is unrealistic like hell. Also when the German are close to the trenches, why do they not lobbing any grenades? The tank commander opening the hatch without even having a pistol for close combat? Lesson number 1 that tank crews learn: Never advance without infantry support. Large numbers of German armor in the rear standing idle. The tank commander knows that there is a Maxim machinegun decimating the German infantry. That position can easily be overrun by the German armor at that point.
When an 88 shell explodes it sends out such a violent shock blast that it if your right outside of the lethal fragment blast, the shock wave blast literally is so violent that many soldiers reported that it shook their internal organs so violently that you had to wait for the organs to stop shaking and re adjust back into their original position… just a horrific and terrifying experience for those who survived and of course died.
@@wojtek1582 The HE fillings of the Tiger 1s 8.8 and the Panzer 4s 7.5 cm are still comparatively close, so i assume they had a similiar effect on infantry. Only the Tigers far scarier appearance (engine noise, muzzle flash, firing pressure and size) and muzzle velocity, so far less time seing the shell coming will certainly make this a far different "experience" to soldiers
increíble pelicual..!! un realismo descarnado y cruel...cuestiones emocionales de la guerra, descriptas sin palabras, solo con imagenes.... como cuando el soldado aleman descubre que no le habian tirado una granada sino solo una piedra. La actitud corporal de los soldados alemanes presume una infinita crueldad de quien se sabe ya vencedor....todo el cuerpo y la mente quiere encontrar la forma de neutralizar esa crueldad que se plasmara en muerte unos segundos despues....y entonces...el milagro!!! hermosa pelicula....
Amigo, es solo una película, más una ficción periodística y propagandística soviética. Mira las fotos reales del ataque ruso a Ucrania, la última del asesinato de varios cientos de civiles, por ejemplo en Bucza.
@@user-uw8lz9rp7ynot entirely my dude, yes a lot of it did I will in no way deny that, but there was a lot of madness across the entire conflict. The war in the dessert for example was extreme in a number of ways that would have been impossible for the conflict in the former USSR.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS Войне в пустыне и не снился тот "экстрим",что присутствовал в 1941-1944 на территории СССР. Посмотрите упомянутый фильм "Иди и смотри", потом подумайте,что же творилось в реальности,раз в фильме такое показано. В ту войну в СССР погибло 13 000 000 только мирного населения.
When there is a war, all people wants is peace.
But when there is a peace, people forget about the horrors of war.
Absolutely Right 👍
This movie was making on people's money not professional.
Hhj
right now we have peace. Its just a special war operation and milita will discuss it with you
@@smitprmr good camrade, you can go now. But we will watch you
This one of the best russian world war two movies and well worth a watch. What a dreadful war. Pity the lessons were not learned by all.
Thanks too!!!
Мы внуки и правнуки этих героев. Советских солдат . Казахстан Алга!
@@alexlevashov348 если ты не заметил я написал Советских солдат . Ты этим что хочешь сказать ?
@@aidosbakhyt6978 , думай чуть шире
@@aidosbakhyt6978 пошёл он на хер не обращай внимание. Даже если напишем конкретно что мы внуки этих Казахов что он может против сказать. Это история мы казахи защитили мәкеу и ещё флаг на верстах поставили наши деда.
@@user-wr5pk9qr9k и казахи тоже в то время были Советские люди и защищали СССР ,вечная память всем Советским людям
Айдос успакоиса. это всего лишь один из лживых истории который придумал СССР. И это уже все знают. Я с Алматы, если что
Nước Nga mãi trong tim tôi. Từ Việt Nam gửi lời chào tới Nước Nga vĩ đại!
Не Россия .Советский союз. Именно СССР помогал Вьетнаму. Все 15 республик. Помните это !
Вьетнам - рай на земле. Тепло, солнечно. Снега нет, грязи нет, океан.
@@Thecubel21 в океане. Скаты хвостоколы, морские ежи, муррены.
@@to1tu_sr7_34b короче морепродукты, деликатесы...
@@Thecubel21 и барракуды . Так что 50/50 плюс малярия.
One of the best portrayed, without a doubt.
movie name please
Well, there are a few problems.
A tank would never advance without any infantry support.
You simply cannot secure ground or trenches with tanks alone.
This is also vice versa.
@@opoxious1592 This whole “feat of 28 Panfilov men” is fiction from beginning to end.
"In war, during firefights, if you're running and you're still on the run amid the blast around you, then keep running to the objective. If you suddenly drop, and you can still talk, encourage the objective and say goodbye to your mama" 😭💪
someone should tell these film makers the german tanks had machine guns and used to hammer the trench line plus the germans had mortar teams who would set up the tubes quickly and start plastering defences as soon as they opened up, for the first 3 years the germans were virtually unbeatable
Its Propaganda
Not mentioning grenades
Greetings from Germany 😜👍🖖
@@banderasbandita all movies it seems germans never had grenades and if they did the german would be shot just before throwing it
Unbeatable? In 1941 December the Siberian motorized divisions made a huge gap in german lines, in 1942 November operation Uranus steamrolled the 6 army. Unbeatable when?
Me encanta mirar, el heroísmo Ruso !!!
Не русский а советский.
💩💩💩💩💩
Вечная память предкам. Сильное поколение.
Von beiden Seiten. Ich Ehre alle dir in diesem Krieg gefallen sind. Deutsche und Russen dürfen sowas niemals mehr erleben
The movie is pretty good, and it's also good to see that it was shot after a lot of hard work
zaw zaw Yes but now it is evil monster putin sending his troops to invade the Ukraine and the Ukrainian soldiers and people are fighting to defend their nation! Shame on putin
That movies bloody frightening, we owe that generation a huge thank you.
This movie is based on propaganda fiction. This whole “feat of 28 Panfilov men” is a fiction from beginning to end.
@@oleksandr2234учи историю это собирательный образ о защитниках Москвы там на каждом шагу были герои.
@@user-lg1cl1tv3h В отличие от тебя - я как раз знаю настоящую историю. А это не более чем выдумка советской пропаганды от начала и до конца. То есть - ложь. Не было там ни такого количества танков, и панфиловцев было не 28, а наоборот- их после боя осталось 30 человек живых и по факту многие из "погибших панфиловцев" пережили войну.
😮
@@user-lg1cl1tv3h Вот и учи реальную историю, а не сказки, выдуманные пропагандистами.
If you really want to see a really "shocking movie" about WWII, go after "Come and See". But prepare your stomach...
One of the best movies ever made
OG yeah! A phenomenal piece of work! I've only seen it once though - once was enough.
Tell me another horrific ww2 film
@@EternalFlameProductions
Schindlers List ?
The Thin Red Line ?
- both pretty full - on
@@willdixon2349 watched them already.
Panfilov park in Almaty has an enormous memorial to the "Panfilov 28" .
Realistic movie.. i like it..😎👍
Buena informacion...gracias
Tell me how 28 men stopped a whole german tank division with infantry?
A experienced division from polish and french campaign with very good commanders.
Answers is Simple, they cant do this, so its a myth of propaganda.
This is one of the great false statements of Soviet Propaganda. I am Kazakh from Kazakhstan and everybody knows that
@@Turloghan никакого пропаганды нет, открой историю и прочитай, у нас стоит огромный памятник на этом месте боев, миф отсутствует, когда человек сражается на смерть.
"I have watched the most shocking World War II movie"... No, sorry, this is basically propaganda (as is most Russian and US war films) "Come and See" is far, far more shocking.
All quite on the western front too
Don't compare US movies with stavka's propaganda!!!
@@Salazar777US war movies are all propaganda too so....
Its based on true events.
Ww2 soviets cannot compare with Putin's occupation legions in Ukraine.
I see modrrn Ukrainian soldiers fighting as soviets in the movie, and germans in the movie represents Putins army.
This movie for children
Budget 1000$
Awesome movie 👌👍
War is enough ✋ everyone needs Peace @ this & forthcoming centuries..
Peace ✌️ comes through strength 💪 🙏
@@gregwilliams3210 😊☺️🤝🤝👍🙏🙏
Salud al Gran Pueblo Ruso.
Gracias .
🙋🏻♂️🇷🇺🤝
Buenas noches.
Sori ombre. Non ruso. Gran Pueblo sovetiko. SSSR.
Gracias .
@@to1tu_sr7_34b perdón, que sea Gloria
Eterna al gran pueblo Sovietico.
Смерть російським фашистам не паскудь пам'ять наших дідів
The sheer detail on that panzer iv, amazing
They r not real:)
@@83glacius obviously. im talking about the high defenition not historical authenticity.
As far as I remember, in the first two years of the war in the USSR, the Germans did not attach caterpillar tracks to their tanks, and there was also no fire from onboard machine guns
Outstanding performance 🤗🥰👏
The most shocking WWII movie in my opinion is “Come, See”. Be warned, it’s extremely harrowing.
"Иди и смотри". Да,фильм очень тяжелый. Видел его в детстве и нет желания смотреть еще раз.
also VERY boring at times, some scenes seem to drag out forever. Very disturbing stuff also in there but i couldnt watch it without fast forwarding some parts.
The guy firing the PM M1910 (Maxim) machine gun used up 75 seconds at full cyclic rate (600 rpm x 1.25 min.) or 750 rounds, or three 250-round belts without pausing to change empty belts and he had three rounds to spare. Not even Hollywood can do better!!
It was also nice of the Germans to carry on standing once the machine gun started firing making them easy targets. A little unbelievable.
“Glorious Soviet communist machine gun of the great patriotic revolution never run dry….strong like bull”
All those japanese tanks suited as panzers….
Also the tanks are 12 inches tall. Just enjoy the low budget production and poor storytelling without being the "well actually" guy.
@@jonfisher9214 плохо то, что находится в твоём черепе.
From all of the wars our great grandfathers and grandfathers fought in and the modern wars we have had the appetites never seems to be quenched,, with the situation in the Ukraine,, once you all fought against nazis in the great patriotic war,, and now the brink of destruction is near,, don't we learn anything from the martyrs on memorial statues all over the world,, ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️from Northern Ireland great movie,,,
Truly said brother. Eire32
Фашизм будет уничтожен в зародыше украины
Good times give birth to weak people. Weak people allow wars. Wars give birth to strong people. Strong people make times good. Everything repeats.
They fought against Nazis, then allowed a group of them to coopt their government and instigate the war they are now it.
Don't get me wrong I mourn for the innocent dead on both sides of this conflict, but the picture being portrayed by western media isn't even accurate to the things they were reporting about at the time of ukrn's split.
3:14 minute of the movie - we can clearly see that this is a radio-controlled model - it is so light that it is not able to apply adequate pressure to the ground. In this movie, a lot of models were used. But despite the fact that we can still see that it is only a model and not a real tank, it still looks more realistic than CGI, which is often exaggerated to the point of absurdity, such as in the movie "T-34". The model is just a model, not a real tank - but still at least literally physical and not artificial like the CGI. Well done to the creators! Other makers should follow an example. Viewers are already overloaded with artificial exaggerated and brought to the limit of absurd computer graphics - we prefer something realistic! :)
It was absolute crap. Obviously a model and a bad one at that, like a toy.
And your point is? So bloody what?
Well, that movie was crowdfunded and produced by the team of enthusiasts. At the very end they recived some funding from ministry of culture but thats it, so give this movie some slack fellas.
My reaction to this film is positive, I don't avoid constructive criticism, but I emphasize its good points.
I definitely prefer models rather than exaggerated to the point of absurd CGI. The Matrix is a good sci-fi movie, Star Wars is also spectacular, but squeezing such effects into war movies is a failure.
Even movies like Tora Tora Tora (1970), where there are models (and real planes) is 10x better than modern movies like Midway (2019) or T-34 (2019). Not to mention the legendary Battle of Britain (1969) or Liberation "Освобождение" (1970), where there are real planes and tanks, even gems such as real German Panther, StuG III, Hetzer and original anti-aircraft guns and artillery, due to the fact that after WWII a lot of this equipment remained in Czechoslovakia.
I don't know what budget and possibilities the filmmakers of the Panfilov's 28 had, but they did better job than many biggest high-budget studies, which by taking the CGI level to the point of absurdity, destroyed their own movies.
The fact that sometimes you can see that this is a model and not a real tank is only a statement of an obvious fact, but after what the creators have shown, with some more possiblities they will certainly refine the technique, and we can expect even better movies to come:)
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This is a truly excellent battle scene. I imagine that this is a mere representation of what war was like for both sides, the petty arguments about interpretation and authenticity should pale into insignificance when one realises how much courage was needed to put up with anything that even came close to the real thing.
“28 panfilovtsy” is actually a 100% lie. Literally nothing in that story is true, not even close.
@@xealit Who told you that? Probably Western historians? The battle near the village of Dubosekovo, which was led by a division of the Panfilov division, is confirmed by archival data. Go learn a normal story.
@@user-ql5gj5fq7rno offense but EVERYONE lies.
Dead. Dead. Dead and Dead
@@user-ql5gj5fq7r it was actually called a fabrication by Soviets authorities themselves soon after the war (1948). Somehow not all 'heroes' were dead, even the commander got arrested by NKVD for treason... Learn history yourself. The movie is of course also trash - like Germans were marching like dolls to be moved by a machine guns... yeah, sure
War, any war is a major tragedy for humanity.
sometimes it necessary like the fight for freedom
God save Ukraine !
PeACE. AND FREDOM ARE NOT FREE WE PAY IN HUMAN TREASURE
Battles must be fought to prevent War
Battles must be fought at times to prevent war
Спасибо казахскому народу за таких сыновей! Сложили головы но отстояли столицу.
Это Русские отстояли. Казахи не при чем.
Шовинисты так считают.
Они во всём уникальны и бесподобны.
@@user-zu2xs4hg8r Это история вымышлена. Казахи если и отстаивали Москву, то было их не более 5% от общего состава.
@@MrFuerst1
Общий состав чего? Дивизии, полка, армии?
Почитайте на досуге, где формировалась дивизия Панфилова.
Да, какая разница? Это были советские люди!
@@lexalex5843
Нет уж дружек, есть разница.
I watched this several years ago. Great scenes, so much for the glamour of war.
Movie name?
Don't know sorry.
@@jeremyphilipjohnpenrice462 it's okey
Слава советскому солдату..мой дед Матвеенко Иван Дмитриевич призывался с Алма -аты воевал в Панфиловский дивизии.погиб под Москвой.вечная память героям.
Мой дед (мамин отец) Стрепнёв Семён Степанович погиб под Москвой в 41-м при контрнаступлении, дервня Дедово.
Respect and admiration for your grand pa..."" 👍🙏💐
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Eternal disgrace for red army rapists and mass murderers
@@kazikowski1976 go home to sleep, you're drunk.
I salute the those who died defending their country with an utmost respect
It's sad that now they attack other countries, like nazis did 80 years ago...
They are taking back what Belongs to them, anyway even the Roman empire was the aggressor before bene attaccked by the barbarians
@@pierfrancescocusati9619 thats the same shit that mr. Hitler said, when he started II WW. Russia acts like nazis now. How did that end for whole world? Go and ask Putin about human rights in Russia 😂 about gey's rights etc...
What about the SS?
This 28 heroes are fiction. Just as always ruskija propaganda from ww2.
These Russian movies about WW 2 keep getting better and better... This one is outstanding.
Well, probably only those that were made without goverment support. Panfilov's 28 was made from the russian folks financial support and with a help of Gajin company, that is known for making War Thunder. That's why it looks so good. Wish we could've seen more movies like this, and not bs like "T-34" movie (or basically any other movie made with goverment support)
Maybe you've already seen it, but if not go watch Come and See. From 1984, I think, but it's a fantastic movie. That and Rzhev. Unbelievably good. I also like Star, but it's not so heart wrenching, although based on a true story (I think).
@@Asgard2208there are too many stupid anti-soviet propaganda in Rzhev
This is one of the great false statements of Soviet Propaganda .and everybody knows that. I am Kazakh from Almaty
@@user-oz4yc8ob2q is the mass heroism of the Red Army soldiers and the red flag over the Reichstag a lie? 😀
Some of the best film and sound work, ever.
"In a war like in a war" - Best film
Heroes will always live in our hearts! No one forgot, nothing forgotten...
This is one of the great false statements of Soviet Propaganda and everybody knows that. I am Kazakh from Kazakhstan
@@user-oz4yc8ob2q In fact it has all happened in reality. Sad that you, kazakh, betrayed your own kazakh heroes, who has bravely fought and died in this fight at Dubosekovo.
You have now 19.000 new ruskij "heroes" died on invasion Ukraine starting in 02.2022. VERY impressive amonut. 12.000 bodys of them are destroyed in Rusdisn creamatores beyond war line. You should be happy, You have many new "heroes" mass murdering Ukrainians childs and women in public executions,
@@user-oz4yc8ob2q
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it is just ruzzisn fairy tale, not true
Слава великому советскому народу победившему фашизм !
...перенявшему фашизм...
Only fascists we currently know are russhists. Stalinism and nazism are equal. Slava Ukraini! Death to ruZZia
Thanks videos👍👍
Absolutely shocking terrifying!! You got my subscription 🙌
Wow ! Amazing battle scene , brings it home to what these men went though.
@@maciekmazur4521 а до этого Польша и Германия разделили какую страну ? Не помнишь или это другое ?)))
@@maciekmazur4521 учи русский. В жизни пригодиться . хотя бы чтоб сдаться в плен.
@@maciekmazur4521 who care do u understand or not. It doesn't make u right when u say stupid staff! 😀
@@maciekmazur4521 учи великий Русский язык. Потом благодарить будешь.
@@maciekmazur4521 and before that German and Poland attack Czechoslovakia and took territory and Poland that territory was occupied from Ukraine and belorus that stalin returned in the 39 like Finland took Soviet territory karelia in the 1917 and stalin returned in the 39 and Japan empire took Russian territory kurilian Iceland and stalin was returned in the 45 , British and France make deal with nazi germany and Italy before USSR that Britain France and usa was helping the germans for making weapons factories and billions from American billionaires and American government makes political repression against Charlie Chaplin because he made movies great dictator about hitter and political repression against other Americans who not like hitter.... and the America denied entry to Jewish people who was run away from nazi euro also George bush,' grandfather have had a oil tankers and he asked to Hitler Jewish workers for free(slaves) in the tankers were working was very dangerous because of poisoning. And after war the Poland was occupied 3 German regions and make ethnic cleaning and genocide of German civilians and usa burn Dresden and Kyoto used napalm bombs. Like said American president Truman: for as is good many killed Soviets and germans we must help Germany and the Soviets in that .
Emocionante
Outstanding film....
Yeah! Make those tankers breath fire. Holy smoke, that is immersive.
Watch "The Captain "
Black and white German film. Not old just b&w.
Its utterly brilliant
The toy tanks are pretty hilarious
plastic toys..
Недоумки,у немцев в 1941 году других не было.
Is it just me or does the soundtrack sound like it’s been made in a studio to dub over the original sound? Loads of sound effects missing, speech missing etc.
This is a fantastic movie.
Кровь стынет в жилах, когда смотришь на эти кадры.!Вот так запросто со штыками,топорами,на вооружённого врага..!Это какая воля и самоотверженность должна быть..?Это уму не постижимо.Мы не имеем права забыть их подвиг.!ВЕЧНАЯ ПАМЯТЬ,и ВЕЧНАЯ СЛАВА Нашим Воинам.!
Героизм заключается в защите своей Родины. - Сегодня Россия является агрессором...
Heroism lies in defending one's homeland. - Today, Russia is the aggressor ...
Heldentum liegt darin seine Heimat zu verteidigen. - Heute ist Russland der Agressor ...
@@raykb.9398 Сегодня Россия, как и тогда - СССР, - уничтожает фашистскую гадину.
@@sergey1583 ты ещё не мобилизован? Тогда путин идёт за тобой. Единственные фашисты сегодня это русские твари. Говорю тебе, как человек, проживающий в Буче, и потерявший много знакомых. История про 28, 38 или там 58 панфиловцев это выдумка .
KK
Это кино. Для того и снимается, чтоб у вас кровь стыла
Una mas de las muchas y excelentes peliculas belicas rusas ambientadas en la II Guerra Mundial.
Lástima que sea solo un mito ese episodio bélico. Ya está desmentido desde el 2007.
@@beastschalk no
@@beastschalk Es la propaganda de USA-UK la que dice que no fue.
@@nonamenoname1544 Guerra basoluta Chriss bellamy pagina 307. Y fue decslasificado el 2013 por el museo de la guerra patria.
@@beastschalk The regiment participated in the battle, more than 100 people were killed. A list of 28 soldiers is used on the monument. This is a real 28 people.
Superbe de réalisme
Bravo
Saber que en la actualidad se voltearon los papeles que tristeza
"Peace is a condition in which no civilian pays any attention to military casualties that didn't achieve page-one lead-story prominence"
Good one!
Great film 👌👌👏👏👏
Những chiến sĩ hồng quân nước nga thật dũng cả🙏🙏🙏m tôi thật sự khâm phục họ 🙏🙏❤❤❤
6 выжили и это победа! Остановить и выжить! Читал как Норвежец говорил о русских бойцах! Я живу в северной Норвегии, но даже не мог понять, как он, солдат СССР может спать в - 40, в шинели и окопе, а потом воевать. Я замёрз, я не шевелился, а на штыковую пошёл! Как?!
Слава брати !
5 выжило. Добробабин не выжил на самом деле.
La película es buena en la vida real no
Вечная память всем участникам войны.
Кроме фашистов
Фашисты и коммунисты - одно и то же
@@Rainkonen43 Это невозможно. С кем тогда дрались?
Вечная память всем пережившим и гореть в аду всем кто войньі розвязует.
@@MsLodir
Для самых тупых: во время ВОВ коммунисты, ( Советские граждане. Там и твои предки были если что, и мои ) бились с напавшими на на них фашистами.
А сейчас все фашисты. И Россия, и Украина.
The greatest movie I've ever seen in my life about the Great Patriotic War! I spent about two years promoting it on social networks and got into the credits of the film.
you did your job comrade .
@@bond1326 Да, я об этом знаю, прости что на русском)))
Are these the same Russians who had a treaty with Hitler for 2 years whilst they divided up Poland and various other countries? Also, WW2 lasted for 6 years not just the 4 that Russia took part in.
@@moptopbaku6022 Learn the history and not the one that you decided to rewrite and fill with lies
@@user-iz2pt1zl5p You obviously don't like the truth. Please tell me what are my lies.
i saw this movie many time love this seen
War is hell. The post traumatic distress at subsconscious level must be terrible
Слава Советскому Солдату! Царствие небесное ушедшим 🙏✨🌹 ! Здоровья и благополучия живым!!!
Подвиг на века !!!!
vymysel... fantasmagoria
we Poles have a different opinion. A rapist horde that enslaved us for 50 years
@@marosrokyta8292
Это было по факту! И этому есть исторические подтверждения!
А вот ты точно вымысел!
@@eduardpinzaru žiadni Panfilovci nikdy neboli. Celé ste si to vymysleli. Vy okupanti.
@@marosrokyta8292 такой страны как Польша никогда небыло .
Это просто Иосиф Виссарионович Сталин разрешил вам на время границу себе нарисовать....
Польша это вымысел.
Ukrainian, russian and kazakh soldiers fight together in this movie.
Not only russian.
Soviets
And they did Not Like each other, l Heard....
Propaganda says so....
wtf is "rusian"?..
Была одна нация - советский человек.
Muito top
Never saw such a realistic ww2 scene turn into fantasyland that fast
You just feel bad they retaliated and settled things... Anyways, what are your views about a freak with no shirt shooting down helicopters with a bow n arrow, then killing an army with tiny colt pistol...sure thats realistic huh?
@@visionary_8865 I have never heard that Rambo was based on official reports... I am sure I saw that book in "Fiction" section in a library... Unlike the supposedly frontline reports printed in newspapers...
@@maximblinkov1287 If you think "ONLY" 27M Soviets died in WII, you're sorely mistaken. FIrst of all, no one knows the real number, but estimates suggest it's 45 million dead ON THE LOW END. Assume everything you read about Soviets in WWII, written before 2000 to be propaganda. Which is the point here - the talk is about the movie, which even looks like it's the product of fiction. As is the official wartime reporting - after the war to be investigated and proven to be almost complete fabrication (for example - 6 people of the 28 survived and some were taken prisoner and after that joined Germans).
@@gmaacentralfounder 45 mln dead? the only one writing fiction here is you dude
@@nikitadovidchenko6336 Don't get your pants twisted... dude. Poland lost about 20% of pre-war population, 45 mil is just under 25% of 1941 USSR population. Taking into account that fighting was much more brutal on the Eastern Front, especially for civilians, this number is not impossible.
You dont have to fully cycle a PTRD (the big anti tank rifle) because the action automatically cycle backward when you fire and eject the spent case. But you have to put in a new live round and close the bolt manualy... So it is not really accurate...
было две модели. Одна имела автоматическое заряжание патрона.
This film company making movie about female fighter pilot Lidiya Litvyak Soviet war hero.
Тоже будут избегать символов, которые победили нацизм? 😀 Красные звезды, красные знамёна, героические политруки???
Cheeww...is the most terrifying sound , The Bullet just missed u
very good story and cinematography
the sound score is shocking
War is sad, lets just trade man!
I love this.excelent
Великие воины из Казахстана.
Tank mortars are tar more destructive than that. A mortar blowing up so close would create a Shockwave and heat that would deafen and blind you before causing a yon of fractures and 8nternal bleeding
Even the old ones?
@@federicofelici9703I mean it depends on the size of the charge, but yeah quite likely to be honest. The chemical compound explosives being utilised in the second world war were all very modern and by that measurement held a stupendous amount of energy within them. I know that I wouldn't want to be anywhere near one that was going to explode.
0:00 That opening scene is a model vehicle... right? I Can’t decide 😄
Every war movie is a one sided propogenda against its enemy
Thankeu. 🤔👍
Great movie
It is a false story
ВЕЧНАЯ ПАМЯТЬ ВЕЛИКОМУ СОВЕТСКОМУ СОЛДАТУ
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La vi hace unos días y la verdad me encanto
One of the best flims.
Movies Name: Panfilov's 28 Men
The very first WW2 movie that I have seen that actually shows the conditions and the dirt, fear etc on the men. No shiny hollywood faces.
Have you seen 'FURY' starring Brad Pitt??
@@pauledmonds7316 You're right, it's a very good movie 👍
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Which movie is it?
I was in the army but I was never in the front.
Guys who got the Bronze Star in general never want to talk about it. That is the ones from Viet Nam.
On the other hand in most cases infantry guys from WW 2 talked about their experiences in a matter of fact way and told it the way it happened.
One WW 2 vet said that when he pulled the pin on the grenade, he had to wait a couple of seconds to let the timer run down.
He said Germans were very gifted at picking up grenades thrown at them and throwing it back from where it came from.
He said that they would aim high for an area so that the falling flak from the grenade would cause casualties.
One Vet told me that in the film "It's a Wonderful Life", George Bailey was 4F because he couldn't hear in one ear.
He told me that in 1940 he was called down to the draft board and was deferred because he had a problem with one of his arms and he could barely hear in one of his ears.
He had a really good job in a factory at the time.
Than in early 1942 they called him back to the draft board and they checked him out again and told him that they would put him in the artillery
because "with the bad ear, what difference would it make and if he could work on the line in the factory with his arm, he'll do just fine in the army."
I asked him even though he had those problems they still put him in.
In his own words, "That was World War 2. Back then, if you were breathing you were going."
He was in France 2 days after Normandy and had to battle the Germans in France as an infantry man.
His unit along with others came into Holland. He said the Dutch people were glad to see them but they kept their distance because the soldiers had not bathed for a few days.
So what the people did was, each family would invite a soldier into their home and let him wash up. Food there at the time there was not in full supply.
The soldiers reciprocated by giving the people what they had saved from their C Rats, or things like cigarettes which all was highly valued.
I would never embellish anything or make up a story up how I served and fought in the infantry.
Wise not to pretend being a combat Vet nowadays. With the internet it's easy to it check out.
Kudos
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I think it's an interesting difference between vets from Vietnam and those from WWII. Those from WWII had a clear goal and enemy. The people at home knew it and they knew what they're fighting for. In their own eyes it justifies their actions. Those in Vietnam had many doubts as to why they were there, people at home thought the same so there wasn't any heroes welcome. The veterans felt confused and eventually it came down to getting all back home again for them.
@@darkjester53 Exactly, in my country the boys that came back werent allowed to drink in
the Returned soldiers club for many years, disgracefull how the WW2 soldiers treated the Vietnam soldiers.
Not true my late father was on Russian front and never talked about it till close to when he passed away found out only small details Ive spoken to ex Vietnam vets and they spoke freely about it ..
Как много специалистов из компьютерных игр. Вас бы на войну. В реальный бой. Все ваши знания превратились бы в коричневую кучу и в желтое пятно.
전쟁 반대 평화를 기원합니다🙏🙏🙏🇰🇷
Illllma
Honor y gloria al soldado ruso, en la gran guerra patria
Ridicolous
Il existe un monument à la gloire des 28 près de Moscou.
@ Илья Сухов это сказки про панфловых. Это обычная практика пропаганды СССР придумывать лживые истории как этот.
@ Илья Сухов в том то и дело что это ложь, а не просто приукрасили. Ложь это ваша идеология, ваша история
Nice video 👍👍👍👌
Why is there no infantry support for the tanks?
No way a tank will keep driving over the trenches like we see here.
This panzer is deliberately isolating himself, making him an easy target.
This is unrealistic like hell.
Also when the German are close to the trenches, why do they not lobbing any grenades?
The tank commander opening the hatch without even having a pistol for close combat?
Lesson number 1 that tank crews learn: Never advance without infantry support.
Large numbers of German armor in the rear standing idle.
The tank commander knows that there is a Maxim machinegun decimating the German infantry.
That position can easily be overrun by the German armor at that point.
When an 88 shell explodes it sends out such a violent shock blast that it if your right outside of the lethal fragment blast, the shock wave blast literally is so violent that many soldiers reported that it shook their internal organs so violently that you had to wait for the organs to stop shaking and re adjust back into their original position… just a horrific and terrifying experience for those who survived and of course died.
Same as when the new Tigers fired there 88 type guns infantry had to be careful of the flash and sound and pressure wave from the muzzle brake.
Yeah, but no 88 here. This is scene clearly from winter 1941/1942 as Germans use early models of Pz III and Pz IV.
@@wojtek1582 “And now we know the rest of the story” - Paul Harvey. Thanks for the history check!
@@wojtek1582 The HE fillings of the Tiger 1s 8.8 and the Panzer 4s 7.5 cm are still comparatively close, so i assume they had a similiar effect on infantry. Only the Tigers far scarier appearance (engine noise, muzzle flash, firing pressure and size) and muzzle velocity, so far less time seing the shell coming will certainly make this a far different "experience" to soldiers
Heaviest gun was a short barreled 75mm on the commanders tank in the rear, I think maybe 50mm on attacking panzer 3s
increíble pelicual..!! un realismo descarnado y cruel...cuestiones emocionales de la guerra, descriptas sin palabras, solo con imagenes.... como cuando el soldado aleman descubre que no le habian tirado una granada sino solo una piedra. La actitud corporal de los soldados alemanes presume una infinita crueldad de quien se sabe ya vencedor....todo el cuerpo y la mente quiere encontrar la forma de neutralizar esa crueldad que se plasmara en muerte unos segundos despues....y entonces...el milagro!!! hermosa pelicula....
Amigo, es solo una película, más una ficción periodística y propagandística soviética. Mira las fotos reales del ataque ruso a Ucrania, la última del asesinato de varios cientos de civiles, por ejemplo en Bucza.
Подожди, скоро увидишь как снималась Буча!
@@user-hy8st4mn4t Szkoda, że nie ma na razie filmu z zatopienia "Moskwy"...
Cómo se llama la película
@@lilia9356 28 панфиловцев
Exciting
Sgt., USMC, 67 /71, Viet Nam 68, once told a person criticizing our military "you're lucky to have people like me to protect you from people like me"
'Come and See' is the most shocking WW2 movie
Это потому что на территории СССР и была самая шокирующая часть войны.
@@user-uw8lz9rp7ynot entirely my dude, yes a lot of it did I will in no way deny that, but there was a lot of madness across the entire conflict.
The war in the dessert for example was extreme in a number of ways that would have been impossible for the conflict in the former USSR.
@@WeWillAlwaysHaveVALIS Войне в пустыне и не снился тот "экстрим",что присутствовал в 1941-1944 на территории СССР. Посмотрите упомянутый фильм "Иди и смотри", потом подумайте,что же творилось в реальности,раз в фильме такое показано. В ту войну в СССР погибло 13 000 000 только мирного населения.
Tyhle filmy nás připravovaly na to co nás čeká: PEKLO VÁLKY .=(
Europe is uniting against Russia again. Such a tradition. Forgetting history, getting defeated by Russia again.
චන්දන නිමල් සේපාල මහතාගේ සිත 🇺🇲🎧🇺🇲
Thank you too. Horrific depiction which is sadly being played out for real each day
One of the best movies about Wv2. Much better than shit and fables of Holywood. My respect to makers.
ВЕЧНАЯ ПАМЯТЬ ГЕРОЯМ
What is this movie? Amazing 👏
10:50 These Wehrmacht soldiers must have run out of grenades!
here 28 against tank unit in ind 22 Sikh fought against 10000 afghans in saraghari war🙏👍