1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1 428 CJ/SCJ - Ridiculously Underrated
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- For the 1969 model year, Ford really upped the ante when it came to performance per dollar. The new 1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1 equipped with the 428 Cobra Jet (CJ) V8 or 428 Super Cobra Jet (SCJ) V8 had a purchase price an average buyer could afford yet had fantastic performance that was the envy of most muscle car owners.
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In the autumn of 69 I got to drive a new, dealer demo 70 Cougar Eliminator with a 428 cj, 4 speed, and 3.50 gear. (Mom was a secretary at the local Lincoln Mercury dealer). The car was complete blast to drive. The combination of torque, throttle response, and gearing was just spot-on. The polyglas tires hooked up pretty well and the exhaust/induction sound effects were priceless. It made excellent power right up to 6000 rpm with perfect torque at all rpm. I went through a whole tank of Sunoco 260 that night. I'll never forget the 428 cj.
D.M. ………...had a 70 Cougar XR 7 428 4speed etc. had 5 Deputy Sheriff cars arrive at the house after a little drag racing , Pop and Mom got a little pissed !!!!!
69 is my favourite Mustang year.
I had a simple 1969 Mach-1 with a 351-W, 4 speed.Very fun car for driving thru the mountains to get to the coast. Suspension was good for powering out of the corners. Nice car for cornering, very stable. Smaller engine meant less weight on the front end, & the 351 was no slouch for the day!
Very true. The lighter nose gave the small blocks the advantage in cornering.
Hi surfing36, I had one also and the first thing I did when the original tires wore out was to replace the rears with 235/70R15 radials and the front with 205/14 radials and I added on a ADCO brand rear sway bar. It handle vastly better.
That’s like my Dream car you just described
I had one, too, with the automatic. Great ride, would love to have it now.
My brother bought a 70 mach 1 new in 70. 4 speed 351, think it was Cleveland. Think the color was called dark ivy green. Awsome car.
I had a ‘69 Mach 1 428 Cobra Jet with shaker hood scoop. Ran out of gas on the test drive and bought it! What fun, amazing power!
This channel is ridiculously underrated, you deserve way more subscribers
As underrated as those horsepower numbers back in the day :D
friend had a '69 428 super cobra jet ram-air...was incredibly quick
A simple camshaft change to the Ford part number C8AX-6250 C made the Fe even quicker along with ignition and carb. tuning you could get 450hp for a few hundred dollars and have an everyday driver , too .
My favorite years for Mustangs. 1969 and 970
I remember in '74-'75, my friend was a car dealer. We would go to auto auctions and he would buy American muscle cars for practically nothing. '69 390 4speed mach1-$1200, '69 Z28-$1500, '70 Road Runner- $900, '70 440 six pack Challenger-$1500, etc.All cherry with low miles. Nobody wanted them, because of the so called gas crisis.Those were good times.
I ran a 1968, 396 Chevelle ( 375 HP ) with a 4 speed and 373 gearing during the late 60's. These 428 Mustangs, particularly with automatic transmissions, were what I hated most to meet at stop lights. They were incredibly fast and I got beat by them more than any of the Mopars or other GM products. Looking back, the Mustangs probably had a slight weight advantage also. Not saying they would always outrun the "Shevelle", but as quick as anything I ran in those days!
According to a dyno engineer that worked at Ford during the late 60s and early 70s the 428 Cobra Jet put out an actual 428 horsepower on the dyno. So the 428 CJ was grossly underrated.
I worked at a Ford dealer in 69. And I remember first time transporter pulled in with 6 brand new Mach 1s everybody came out of the showroom and their jaws just dropped to the ground those cars were beautiful compared to the 68. The 69 70 Mustangs are cars that look fast even sitting still.
I have never seen a pure stock CJ produce that much. I am sure that the Ford engineers dyno tuned their 428CJ prototype to get that HP figure. That engineer built and tuned motor also turned a 13.40 quarter mile times in a '68 mustang. But the best time Hot Rod magazine could squeeze out of an assembly line built 428CJ mustang was 13.56 seconds. Assembly line built 428 cobra jets tuned by factory recommendations pulled about 20-25HP less than engineer built and tuned CJ's The great performance of the 428CJ's was not due to a super high HP figure but due to its flat torque curve coming off the line with over 400 pounds of torque but still pulling between 440 to 465 pounds at higher RPMs (depending on the car and motor - they varied!). Most high HP motors, including the 426 HEMI and the ford 427MR were more peaky, offering more HP and torque than the 428CJ at high RPMs but less at low RPMs making the 428CJ appear to have similar HP when drag raced when it really didn't. The real HP figures for the 426 HEMI and 427FE depended on the year. Although advertised figures for both motors with 2 four barrel carbs was 425HP, actual HP for both motors continued to climb as the year's went by. Ford increased their valve size on their LR heads and then produced a new, more powerful MR head with even bigger valves. The 426 HEMI got a hotter cam in '68 and in '70 went to hydraulic valve lifters on the same hot cam which increased actual valve lilt due to 0 valve lash.
Such styling!!! The car just screams FLOOR IT
From what I remembered, Ford took an early lead, but eventually Chevy caught up and won the trans am series in 69, and then Ford came back with a vengeance in 70 and won the trans am with Parnelli Jones and George Follmer driving the 'factory' cars. It was a great era for pony car racing.
@@d.e.b.b5788 Ford saw how Chevy had stepped up their game in the trans am series. So in 67-68 the brought out the tunnel 302 and it was a disaster. Too much port volume for such a small displacement. They had to wind them up to 7/8 k rpm. The bottom end just couldn’t handle it. Then the Boss heads came out. The rest is history.
I like that Acapulco Blue the Mach 1 Mustangs came in.
I well remember when this car hit our streets in 1969 and I agree that it was one of the truly great American cars ever.
I never was a Ford guy, or into Mustangs. Old room mate had a Boss 351. Impressive car.
Im not a Ford guy but for some reason I love Mustangs and I have 2 of them. I think Mustangs are great and everything else Ford makes is meh.
I am a Chevy guy all the way, but one of my favorite all time cars is a yellow 1970 Mach 1 with the 428 SCJ, Shaker hood, and matte black Mach 1 striping.
Both the 69 Dodge Charger and the 69 Mach 1 were 2 of the very coolest muscle cars ever.
My father had a 69 428 super cobra jet with drag pack. This was Australia in the late mid 70's it was a very fast car completely stock.
The Mustang Mach 1 along with the Boss 302 and 429 were the sought after collector Mustangs.
How could anyone thumbs down this?
Got my license in 66, saw a few of these on the street. I'm a fan of lightweight muscle cars. According to the NHRA charts a 1968 notchback 4 speed 428 CJ mustang weighs 3241. This gives it the lowest pounds per cubic inch of any big block muscle car of the 60s-70s. They went fast.
I kept trying to buy one from a guy I knew who got stuck in a snow bank and blew his up but he wouldn't sell it without it running so I ended up 2 Cobras and a Talladega . They were very fast after some serious tuning and a cam change . 428's were a much better street engine than the 427's because you didn't need to work on them to keep them at the top of their game .
3241 wow that's pretty light .
Best looking Mustang of them all.
Yes my absolute favorite hands down and candy apple red!!!
I agree.
My favorite year Mustang.
I had one with a 351c, I can only imagine what a 428, 429 would do. Pure rocket 👍
I had one in like new original and unrestored condition with 12k miles. Dyno'd at 510HP at the wheels and it was stock except for better mufflers and a Holley 780 instead of the Holley 735...
430 Detroit locker launched that thing to victory after victory against all comers.
Underrated? Understatement lol
Wish I had the knowledge back in the mid 70's when I got my driver's license to buy one of these.
I had one that came with traction bars. I want my car back:(
There"s a lot of us here wanting their old car back
Good job! Ive had quite a few big block Mustangs & cougars. Love them lots! you will too!
At 72 Years Old I Can Tell You All That I Grew Up In The Best Of Time
In The 60s & 70s We Had The Best Music And The Best Cars
I've Owned Over 35 Cars From Corvettes To Coronets But The Best Car I Had Was A 1966 Galaxie 500 That I Dropped A 1968 428 SCJ Engine Into. That Car Gets Faster As I Get Older LOL
( In Those Days 57 Chevys Were Throw-A-Way Cars, I Would Love To Have Just A Tail Light Off One Today)
The 428CJ and SCJ were available in all Mustang lines, not just the Mach 1.
I've tried to read through these comments....you guys make my head hurt
In fourth grade, my buddy told me that this car could travel at the speed of Mach 1. I believed him.
Haha, 4th grade logic.
With the right drugs it could...
Not a Ford guy so to speak, however, the 69 Mach 1 is a most beautiful car.
I'm a Ford guy but love all the American Muscle Cars built by the Big 3 back in the day ✔️❗
Unpopular opinion, the 1969 Mach 1 Mustang is the best-looking muscle car period.
ryan spence
I give the nod to the ‘69 Boss 302. Clean sides and quad headlights
don't think that's really an unpopular opinion
The "stigma" back then prevented Fords amazing products from being recognized. I lived it. My little Mustang GT would stomp a 396 Chevelle, yet the popularity was all about GM or Dodge/Plymouth and Mustangs were largely ignored.
@@Future-Preps35 The 396 was only 46 cubic inches bigger than the new 350 small blocks, 200 pounds more dead weight on the wrong end of the car, and not nearly as efficient at making power. I would take a 350 or even 327 in a Vette or Camaro.
@@Future-Preps35 Owned a '67 Camaro 350 CI, 4 SP with 4:10 gears. Never was outrun by anything in it's own class. First weekend I had the car I outran a buddies '70 Nova 396/375. It was the strongest engine I've ever owned.
TO CHEVROLET. AFTER ALL, THE FACT REMAINS, CHEVROLET IS THE MOST WINNING CAR COMPANY IN THE HISTORY OF NASCAR. CASE CLOSED. HURT'S DOESN'T.
@@brianreed7959 Wasn’t Ford beating Ferrari when Chevy was still trying to figure out how to make a big block stay together. And then in trans- am Ford took 66,67 and 70 the only year every manufacturer had factory backing, everyone was there. Only reason Ford didn’t win 69’ was because a huge wreck took most Ford cars out early in the season but they had finished first first four races before the wreck. In top fuel the SOHC went drag racing and won only triple crown in top fuel. Bob glidden, roush and gapp dominated in pro stock too. Ford was also just getting started in Formula one racing with the DFV dohc 4 valve V8 that ended up becoming the most successful engine in Formula One history. My favorite class was NHRA asking each manufacturer to come out and prove which one was the quickest baddest of them all. They could use whatever engine, body, trans, rear- end they wanted. A Frankenstein of all the manufacturers best parts. Ford won so much they killed the class. But yeah you and your trailer park buddies running 15’s down the 1/4 in 1972 in that rust bucket chevell makes cheby the fastest and bestest ever. Magazine ran all these cars stock back in 60’s and 70’s Fords were the fastest many many times. The Mercury Cougar Xr-7 cj ran 13.2 bone stock making quickest muscle car tested in 1970
When I was young, all my friends drove Chevys and swore by them. I owned a 65 Galaxie 500 LTD (black) with the 352 intercepter package and they were jealous. And I've owned exactly one Chevy and it was a freaking lemon.
Great videos!! Keep um coming. Thank you from all of the "the older I get the faster my car was" club.
Nice to see a good report on the CJ. Still have a 69 CJ fb 4spd bought June 1969 sitting out in my garage. A few years of ownership but only one of many like my 67 GT500 24yrs or 70 Boss9 3 yrs. Although - maybe cause I am gittin a bit old - has a few of your facts different. Engine HP rating was for playing the NHRA class game. FACTORY advertised HP/pound. IF you look at FORD's own Muscle Parts book from 1969 (?) you can find a HP torque graph that put the CJ at 415HP. Think that rule was changed in 1971. CJ 428 was a very good street engine just like the 440, 455 430 from other mfg. Ford did a lot to promote it with Muscle Parts & with the Ford Drag Teams using both Stang, Torinos and even Mavericks. There was a lot of factory technical support in the mid-late 1960s. Win on Sunday, sell on Monday.
Will -yes and it will probably come into play all too soon. I was born at that time when muscle was about to become a whole new craze. Born as the 3rd generation of family car business so I had a few dozen. 56&7 TBirds, 60 Vette, 64 max Wedge Coronet, 65 Cyclone, solid lifter Z28, Judge, RR, Super Bees GTX Charger, SS Chevelles, SS 396 Elk, Shaker hood Ranchero GT, 70 Boss9, a dozen Shelbys, factory super stripped Drag Pack stang. Hate to say what books I have - still have the sales brochure for my 67 GT500 (24 yrs). Complete Ford Master Parts books from before they went to microfich (mid 70s) Owner's manuals for a dozen 60s cars. Most of the the Ford performance manuals of the 60s Hot Rod & Car Craft from 1964 and hundreds of others of the day. Been weeding out a lot of that old stuff the last couple of yrs. Expect most will go in a dumpster when I die as its all online now.
That was with the engine in its heavily modified NHRA "stock" C class state, fully blueprinted, competition cam, open long tube headers no engine accessories, etc.
Get real.
As they drive off the showroom floor, the 428 CJ was at best a 285 HP - as it sat in the car with al engine accessories and full factory exhaust system in place.
Today, garden variety turbo 4 and V6 family sedans are every bit as quick and fast.
In 1978, when I turned 16 and was shopping for my first car, I test drove a '69 Mustang fastback with a 302 CU engine. But I ended up with a '71 Merc Cougar 351 C instead. The Cougar was still pretty fun and would spin that one passenger side tire pretty easily, but I still think back and wonder how it would have been with the '69 Mustang.
I learned how to drive this car, was a super low miles car I got from a guy who rarely drove it, was my dream car, he had put 12" Mickey Thompson 50's on the rear and air shocks, it was crazy fast car. The guy I sold it to wrapped it around a tree, you had to be light on the throttle, that thing would slide all day long, I had the SCJ version... monster! Mine was green with the shaker, loved that option.
Ahhhh my grandpa's car. Thank you for doing a vid about this
My dad had a '69 428 CJ. He owned it from new. A few years ago, my uncle decided to move the car from the street and put it in the garage for my dad. He thought it would be cool to try squealing the tires.... the car ended up in a neighbours front room. First time i ever saw my dad cry...
I am crying thinking about it. Mine since June 1969 is out in my garage.
My dad too. Had his stolen, twice, the second time it was crashed into a telephone pole
kcotte59 they still don't speak too each other...
Never allow an idiot thrill seeker behind the wheel of a muscle car. They will wreck it every time.
I’m not a violent man, but at that moment Uncle would have been strangled, maybe I’d get a motor head judge would understand and release you!
This was a tremendously fast car. Raced a few of these and they were some of the fastest on the road at that time.
Excellent and highly interesting and informative narration😃👍
Thanks for another interesting and informative video
All '69 428 CJ/SCj's were rated at 335 HP, regardless of Shaker/non=Shaker, drag pack/ non-drag pack.
Big $$$ today. Awesome car. Work of art.
John Wick sure love this year of Mustang.
Great car handled much better than earlier models. The big 3 were building badass cars in 69
Great channel !!
These 69 Mach 1's have always been my favorite Ford muscle car, especially with the 428 CJ. It's just a great looking car. And that is my opinion. And it isn't surprising to me their cost my be rising.
I had a 69 Mustang Fastback 250CID straight 6 automatic back in 1975. Bought it used for $900.
No power steering or brakes.
I loved it. A drunk ran into and totaled it.
Maybe it was a 200cid straight 6.
This is a really cool channel.
Cool stuff. Thanks
This should make everyone in here ill like it made me when it happened. My father bought a 69 fastback in 71 with a Windsor and clutch 3 speed, dark blue with black interior, he told me that I could buy it from him when I got my license in 6 years. Two years later he used it as a trade in down payment for a new Toyota Celica ST, I still get sick to my stomach when I think about it all these years later. My father has since passed away so I can't bust his chops about it anymore. What a shame it was losing that beautiful machine.
The 1966 Ford GT40 MkII went 0-60 in 5.2 seconds with 485 horsepower. It was also a much lighter mid-engined car, indicating that the SCJ Mustang, capable of 5.5 s to 60, was indeed much more powerful than the factory claimed.
The GT40 has much different gearing. Like the Boss 429, it was geared for speed vs. acceleration -- even more so.
what a monster lol happy new year to everyone from me in Hamilton Ontario Canada
This car was an engineering marvel at the time. Trying to get the big block to fit inside of a mass produced car like that was truly a miracle.
How was it a "marvel" when GM was stuffing Chevy big blocks into Camaros and Corvettes earlier?
Lol I was conceived in 1969! I am a huge Ford Mustang fan especially from the 60s'. I think it is so cool to share my birth year as these iconic automobiles. I love the comments from you fellow gear heads on here, best regards to you all!
I saw this on Jay Leno’s channel awhile back. What an awesome car.
great video...your comments on their sturdiness, very accurate.....but they blew up the big wedge left and right back in the day,....really just being a beefed up and upstroked 390 with big valve medium riser heads.....with the 428, rpm was critical,...stay at or under it, they,d live all season,..go above it, and ka-pow,...better never, miss a gear or kapow....they were known for living longer in automatics....they weren't cross-bolted 427s...people just wouldn't stay with factory limits so...of course the partially restricted main oiling passages being half closed in the all fe,s but the 427...[actualy 425 cubes] didn't help matters much, but they owned stock eliminator slots in the late 60s and 1970...rated the same 335 as some of the 390s?.....ha!!!....with that big arm crank?....oh sure.....great coverage of a legendary engine......
I had a ride in a 1969 Cobra Jet a few years later. I was at a School at NAS Pax River and a guy in my class had one and that sucker moved. It was the first time I was really sucked back into the seat.
This was my dream car when I was in high school.
Timeless auto. Luv this car. The 68 coupe.
I'm a fan of both cars and I'll tell you why chevy engines are more interchangeable and ford I Believe gives you more material to work with and this is my belief. Thank you guys what a Great Show!
Most of that comment doesn't make any sense! How are Chevy engines more Interchangeable than Fords?
The original owner of my Mustang told me he wanted a 428, but the dealer told him there weren't any left so he got the GT 390 instead. H also added air and an 8 track.
Dan Hayami; A 1969 GT390 is almost non existent. I think it was also the last year of the Mustang GT until Ford revived it again in 1983?
My cousin bought a '69 390 GT 4 speed and at the time I couldn't figure out why he didn't go for the 428. I had a 67 390 GT at the time and knew it's limitations which made it all that much more bizarre to me. Also, I seem to remember that either in 68 or 69 Ford also had a 427 option in the Mustang. Now that was the Hi-po engine to get but I'm sure it was a very expensive option and very few built as I've never seen one. Had a neighbor at the shore in the mid 60's who stuffed a 427 hi riser in 56 T-bird.....what hoot!
I had a friend in the late 70's got a 390 4 speed car from the original owner who special ordered it. Pretty much regular Mustang except odd choices in that it had a non-posi and i think a 3.00 gear. Even with L60 tires you had to launch easily. But the TORQUE ! I was in the car when he short shifted 3rd to 4th on top of the torque curve and left a black streak about 6ft long with one tire. It also was great on street races starting from 70 mph. Great pull away speed since it had low numerical gears
My two favourite Mustangs are the Mach I and Mach II, despite the fact that I consider myself a MOPAR guy. These two were classic cars; and despite being bigger cars, were surprisingly nicer to drive.
There was never any such thing as a Mark 2 in a Mustang or anything. What type of drugs are you taking? To be a Mopar guy, you would have to be taking drugs.
What's a Mach ll ? No such thing Bud.
Mach ll mustang? Is it Australian or something?
@@jerryparks6123
Read my previous response, just above yours. 😋
Good show
Owned my 1970 428CJ RA 4-speed from 1973 through 1977. Stock except for headers, 750 4150 Holley and with the cam degree'd with +2 advance. Very few cars were faster yet, the car was very tractable at low speed and thoroughly fun to drive. Sold it to by a 1969 Boss 429 Mustang which I owned until 2002. Now the Boss was a completely different animal altogether..... I wish I still had my 70 Mach I.
69 was my first Mustang ❤❤😊
You were definitely right about the price shooting up lol
Nobody I know ever "underated" the 428CJ - The engine that's far too often overlooked is the "Baby Boss 429" - The (1970 model) 351 Cleveland (4 barrel) It's a true high performance engine which actually has much larger valves and ports than the big block 428, putting out (actual, not advertised) around 340HP! Plus, in the Mach 1 it offered much better handling. The 351C responded nicely to bolt on performance upgrades, too. I know . . I owned 'em both back in the good old days.
kcotte59 1979 F150 4x4 351M got 4 mpg
The quenched chambered 351C-4V was a great engine but its HP was not 340. I owned one back in the day. It was great fun once you got the engine up to speed but its torque suffered at lower RPMs. The valves and ports were too big for smallish cam that Ford stuck in there - low intake charge velocity. I assume they planned to go with a better cam but was forced to settle so the engine could pass emissions. An aftermarket cam, even an aftermarket street cam would make that motor. But even stock with an automatic transmission, it would whip 350 powered Camaros. But that engine is more like a round engine than drag racer . For drag racing, its not close to the 428CJ. The 428 provides more torque at 2500 RPMs than the Cleveland had at peak RPMs. The 428CJ only weighs 75 pounds more than the Cleveland. In a '70 Mach 1 (the one with front and rear anti-sway bars) it handles a lot better than people think. I have one in a '70 Mach 1. The 351C block is light but those 351-4V heads are heavy . Worst thing about the 428 is its freaking intake which weighs close to 90 pounds! Swap out that for an aluminum one and the weight drops down close to what a Cleveland weighs.
Evidently he never heard of the one Boss 429 Cougar, or the Boss 429 King Cobra Torino?
There was actually two Boss 429 Cougars!
No, you missed something. He described the 428 CJ/SCJ as the best performing Mustang that the average person could buy. The average person wasn't buying the Boss 429 as an everyday driver.
my cobra jet was tranplanted into my '73 gran torino. never had any problem's, it always started. and layed rubber for block'(s).
I have two '69s. One is a 351W powered SportsRoof (fastback) with an FMX tranny and 3.73 9" TracLoc and the other is a 302 convertible with a C4 and 3.55 open 8". I've never run the fastback at the drag strip, but, as I mechanically modified the convertible, it made several trips there. My best pass with the car was a 14.308 @ 99.1mph on street tires. Not bad considering I'm giving up over 120 c.i., a four speed top loader and a lot taller gears to an SCJ that turns, according to the video, 13.9 @ 103mph. My 302 is bored .040 over to 308, has a Road Demon 4V, GT40P heads, custom tri-Y headers, KB flat top pistons, a Comp 351W single profile cam (224 duration, .500 lift), Edelbrock Performer manifold, Ford Motorsport roller rockers, anti pump-up lifters, and a shift kit in the C4. Could I call my convertible a "302 SCJ"? :-)
My father had a 428cj he used to tell me on drag nights at the local mile stretch when he would roll up all the Dodge owners would leave with their tail between their legs after the first time he ran it
depsite all the fanboyism...all the big block chevy and mopar got destroyed by the fords simply because GM and mopar cars were all 500 lbs or more heavier than ford .
but that wont stop the legend 'muh uncle have a 440 charger and he eat everyone'
'muh dad have a 4200 pound chevell ss with a 454 no one could beat him' etc etc etc
when actually you check 100% stock muscle cars shootout all those guys not only get wreck by ford small blocks, but they also end up very VERY close to the same car they own but with the 383 and 396
stock for stock a big mopar with the 383 finish the 1/4 with almost the same time as the 440, and yes the HEMI (i know its so cool to say HEMI but yeah stock they were marginally faster than a 383) same thing for those chevelle 454 and 502: their 396 equipped cousins wreck them
The FE is such an awesome Block as it’s really a Mid Block if you look at the other Big Blocks.
What a machine;)
You could tell something special was happening during the 60s
Great pictures and footage. We had a 68 Torino GT 390 4brl that screamed good too! But NASCAR size I'd prefer the Stang.
Those car's couldn't get out of the mid 15 second/93 MPH quarter mile range. Real pigs - even by the standards of the day.
@@harddrivin1le-970 Headers helped the 390 GT somewhat. Don't forget, the 390 was not engineered as a high performance engine in 69, that job fell to the 428CJ.
The 428 CJ benefited greatly from a set of headers due to rather awful stock manifolds. My first ride in a fast car was my Uncle's Torino Talladega with a 428 Cobra Jet. He had to have several front fenders and related parts replaced due to running 130 plus on bias ply tires that kept exploding.
hahaha good ol days!
I ran one Cobra to 170mph and had no issues with Radial T/A Goodrich tires but had to make a front spoiler to keep it on the road .
I Hads A 1966 Galaxie 500 That I Dropped A 428 SCJ 4 sd Into I Can Tell You That Putting A Set Of Long Headers On That Monster Brought The Torque & Horse Power Up On An Already Amazing Engine To Unbelievable Heights
Nice
69 and 70 are the best years for the mustang in my opinion
When I was a landscaper in college one of the old guys told me he had a '69 Mustang with the 428 CJ engine and if he got on it on the expressway ramp he could literally see the gas needle move....
My R code '70 Mustang looks exactly like the '70 R code mustang in the video, condition, paint and all. I'd love to see them side by side at a car show. In real life, I have only seen one other '70 R code and it was in an international mustang show around 20 years ago.
I drove one my pal owned when I was a kid. I had a red 68 390hp Convertable Mustang at one time in my youth.
You sure that wasn't 390 cubic Inches?!
@@jerryparks6123 Woops. It was 390 ci . You are correct. Thanks for response.
Race it on Sunday, sell it on Monday. The good o'l days. We had the same here in AU in the 70's.
now 95% of cars are FWD shitbox that no one care about even the buyers
REcorded performance times were all done back then on factory street tires which mean either feathering the throttle or risk burning rubber all through first gear . Sad. Image those cars on modern stickey tires it'll knock it into high 12s. Close your eyes and imagine a modern 6 speed trans and we are talking mid 12s.
The BEST Mustangs were: '69/'70 BOSS 302 ; '69/'70 BOSS 429 and '68 Shelby GT 500KR! OldCarMemories needs to do videos on THESE Mustangs!
Respect for the FE, but I can't resist the Shotgun!
well 427 sohc was even better so ford had a great range of exotic motors - john cosse now makes a complete kit to BOSS your 460 v8 ford = put a stroker kit and get 900 hp !
Ronnie Boucher - I believe it is Jon Kasse that you refer to. His version of the engine are buildable to 600 CID and 1,000 street HP.
SOHC are again pretty. The 90 day wonder engine was the first attempt to have a NASCAR hemi beater and was immediately outlawed by NASCAR as too exotic. It had a few Ford promotional installments but for the most part was delegated to drag racing. It had a great deal of successes along with its issues. Prudhome once commented that you never had to worry about doing oil changes as it was all over the outside of the car by the end of a run. Pete Robinson tried making gear drives to overcome the 6' long chain issues. Ed Pink probably came the closest to synchronizing the cams at rpm. He spent time with strobe lights and high speed camera to see what was happening. Later someone built a Gilmer belt drive.
I am MBT INTJ. Born in the 40s to 2nd gen car dealers.. new for many yrs - father's hot rodding and if you handed him the wrong wrench you were sent in the house. Knew my fractions before kindergarten. Along with reading about horses (I had two Arabs but too much work & cars you didn't have to clean their stalls or carry grain & water in winter) I read almost anything I could get through the library on engine theory & designs (lot of WWII stuff was fascinating) same for gears, suspensions. Supportive parents to my racing dalliances which probably from stories of my father's youth which were not that different. Made certain friends because males who were sure of themselves probably felt sorry for me. I had nothing to lose so I would call X on the phone and ask advice and if it wasn't totally stupid and I had sound basis for questions I suppose it intrigued people. Thank you notes. Car business was our lives. Hustling cars paid for racing. Find out what a customer wants, make them happy and they tell people. Name almost any muscle car from the first rambler Rebel in 1957 to the 1971 death of muscle and we owned and I drove most of them. Most were widgits to sell but that didn't stop the "road testing".
Now I search for answers as to what hominids are. Why IF evolution is true that hominids have 46 chromosomes and all the apes have 48? Why did man need to create gods or were the gods the result of other forces still hidden from us. Why are there identical pictures, statues and carvings of beings 10-30,000 years old all around the planet Peru Turkey Egypt Ireland Siberia Thailand and on & on? What are we missing from when the oceans were 500 feet lower 15,000 yrs ago?
I still play with vehicles. daily driver 76 Bronco (not stock), an ATV - 69 Ranchero GT - and since June 1969 CJ fb stang 4 spd+++ Spares of couple of 427s 428 8V 6V 4V HiRiser 4 big input T&C, 5 nodular pumpkins with different ratios. That was just the life I chose to live. My way.
10susan10; You're a girl?!!! YES!!! I was born in 58 and my Mom and Dad's brothers were big into the muscle car craze. I was fortunate to have cool uncles. My neck was whiplashed every time they took me for a ride. 64 Falcon, not sure if it had the 260 or 289?, but it smoked the tires for what seemed like forever! 67 Fairlane GTA, 68 Charger R/T 440, 69 Roadrunner 383 auto and 69 Chevelle SS 396 4spd. I have Ford blue blood but I consider myself a MOFO. I currently own a 69 Cobra 428 4spd, a 69 Roadrunner 440 4spd (engine swapped out in 1980) 09 GT500, and 2013 Challenger R/T Classic. So cool to read your comments. Thank you. John
JW edgerly - John - still was the last time I went to the bathroom. WOW I am amazed at your current collection. Did you mean a 69 Torino Cobra? Never had the opportunity to drive the new Shelbys. Nor Stangs. Guess old age has me stuck in age old cars. So many things that can be done today that were barely dreams then, Screwing with changing the FI pill and wishing there was an easier way now EFI where exhaust gas tells the system what is needed, I have argued with myself on going EFI for yrs. Latest Holley has me tempted. Last 5-8 yrs have been a resurgence of the 1960s that for a long time I never thought we would see again. One bit of advice, enjoy yours as much as you can cause each year gets more precious and you don't even realize it.
10susan10; Yep! It's a Fairlane/Torino Cobra. Candy Apple. The 69 cobras didn't share the Torino/Fairlane name. I bought a 1970 Cobra with 429scj drag pack auto in 1975 for $800. It had the Torino script on the drivers side of the hood. I sold it in 85 to my best friend to try to get my wife and 2 sons to come back home. He in turn sold it(much to my dismay) to a young man in Ok., who sold it to a Shelby collector. The Shelby collector managed to get my phone# in 89(i live in Maryland) to get more information about the 70 Cobra. No lie, the Shelby collector called me in 91 to see if I'd be interested in buying the 70 Cobra! His wife left him!The problem was, I just bought the 69 Cobra in Feb of that year. Had some$ tied up in it but the Shelby guy said he'd let me have it for $6k! He claimed he invested $9k in it.(he restored it) I tried but had about $3,800 and that was committed to the 69. I called him about a month later and he told me a Vietnam vet, his wife and kids travelled from north east Oklahoma to pick up the 70 Cobra. He didn't get a chance to buy it new because he was serving our country in Nam. Hopefully he's enjoying it with his family. I might just have to take a trip to Ok. Talk at ya later! John
Great engine just looking for a decent set of clothes. It found them. From 1966 to 1973 AC cars in Thames Ditton in the South of England fitted these engines into the Cobra 427 chassis and clothed it in a beautiful coupe/soft-top body by Italian coachbuilder Frua. Sadly, almost all of the AC 428s were autos (clutch weight too heavy) but today a light clutch could be achieved with a concentric thrust bearing and a Tremec 5 speed box would complete my dream car.
I had one of these, Mach 1 SCJ, same color. It's the only car that ever scared me! Too light in the rear end for the power. I never got a chance to take it to the strip, we only had it about a month when my Dad let his friend drive it. It got away from him and was totaled around a light pole on I 75. They were lucky to survive, glad I wasn't with them. Too bad we didn't have the handling tech we have now, the car would have been a beast you could hold on to.
I had a 70 CJ.... wish I still had it
I had a '71 Ranchero with a 460/AT. Scary car,but it was a GAS HOG! I sold it when gasoline hit $3.50 a gallon. 7 MPG,no matter how I drove it.
'69 Mustang is the best looking Mustang EVER
Ian Ireland what difference between 1969 mach 1 scj vs a 1970 mach 1 scj vs a 1969 boss 302 vs 1970 boss 302
Cobra jet sweet hard to find but must have for mustang fans
When I first saw this car back in the day I said to myself ,how do you change plugs in this thing ?
I had a 70 cougar 351 Cleveland.
My brother helped me change the plugs and I can tell ya... It was an ordeal.
Cobra Jet and Super Cobra Jet.
I have one near me for sale for $16k, 1969 Mach 1, red with the black details. Sounds like a dream, manual too. I might have to bite the bullet then spend 3-6k for a good black paint job.
A tidbit of info. Back in the 1970's when the began putting disc brakes on the front of the Camaro ___ they were the same pads, calipers and rotors they were using on Suburbans and full size blazers and they had great stopping power although they had shoes on the rear. The brakes in my 69 mustang really sucked.
That red 69 Mustang color was called Candy Apple Red.
i had one just like the last one in 1976 ..
The '71 Mach-1 Mustang is the best looking of them all.
There is a video on TH-cam by Ramairguy where they dyno test a stock 1970 428 SCJ. They got 405 hp and 447 ft. lbs. of torque.
Nice Mailbox BURNOUT!!!