If you do all of this and still find your bass drowns out your kick or your kick drowns out your bass, you can also try a gentle sloping hi cut filter on the bass. this will lower the volume of the bass as it goes deeper, and thus will cut how boomy the bass is.
I don't even know how I ended up on this link.....I sure as hell don't know 1 thing that you have just said, but......I couldn't stop watching and stayed to the end. Mind blown.......nothing better than listening and watching a master in there field at work...BRILLIANT (I think)
I wouldn't worried about having a good punchy waveform before putting the sidechain because it will not make it feel the punchiness when it's activated. I would work on the transients and the punchy waveform when the Kick and Bass are together and just trying to separate the bass to the next kick to make the bass feel deeper.
That was brilliant. I must buy LFO tool some time. My biggest struggle with making music is writing Baselines and melodys. Trying to come up with catchy patterns. I wish I could learn music theory but I don't have the patience. Each tune I make I get better with practice but still I feel I'm a noob despite making tunes with 2 years now
So just for people’s info, the smooth setting on LFO tool isn’t the same as bringing the trailing LFO edge in like in the video. It’s actually like a short release into the attack. So chronologically it’s effect appears at the start of your lfo. Programming wise, it’s probably some cubic interpolation. And personally I like to do what he did in the video over using smooth. Maybe I’ll use a but if smooth, but I don’t like how it will technically allow sound into your kick since it takes place at the start of the new beat.
All I make is tech these are dope videos still can’t get that hypnotizing percussions with the hypnotizing basss I’m stuck on the 909 kicks and kit as well . My sound is pretty descent but not the type of tech I listen to ! But love ur videos bro ponlÉ compa I’m watching 👌
Imanbek Bass if you can please. You have inspired me from the start man all these years seeing you make tracks and I am always waiting on your tutorials like what would be his next series ok techno then tech House now what. All love Zen ❤️
Are you finishing this off with a kick/bass bus compressor to glue them together? That's like the icing on the cake is it not? Also I'm curious to know when you use a longer kick vs a shorter in combination with these baselines. I find some kicks have a perfect tone for certain baseelines but can be too long, and then if i cut off/re shape the end with LFO or envelope then you lose the weight behind it. If you have a more in-your-face bassiine, are you using shorter punchier kicks?
7:11 What if we use Sidechain Ducking (like this, using LFOTools or Volumeshaper) as well as SoundRadix Pi (Dynamic Phase rotation Plugin) for Phase alignment between Kick and Bass so that all the low ends always stays in Phase? at 15:37, the click happens due to the fact that the attack time is too low and the compressor is working on the peaks and trough of the signal instead of its volume contour because the attack time is fucking 0.020 ms and it is low frequesncy. Timeperiod = 1 upon Frequency and so the time period of a 100 Hz signal is 10 ms. So in cases like this, we need lookahead compression or just using Custom sidechain compression. Say we want to compress, contents of track A with 0 attack time. so duplicate Track A and name it Track A1. Now shift Track A1's contents to the left by 20 ms. Now put compressor on Track A and use Track A1 as the Key input to the external sidechain of the compressor and set attack time to 20 ms. That way, contents of Track A will be compressed with 0 attack time (In a way, this is the concept that created lookahead feature)
That's an interesting experiment to try. As for the Compressor clicking yeah I should of setup that a bit more properly but was just trying to get the example out. I personally never run attacks that low on my bass.
@@ZenWorld I know, that you are pretty much aware of these things and I also know that you didn't check the compressor attack time just because you were in a hurry to make this video quickly. 😁. You are a great teacher. No disrespect to you. I just wrote this comment down for others. (On the context of this experiment, you can acrually try sound radix Pi and Powair. I think, as far as the digital technology goes, soundradix is the only company that uses digital domain to its full potential. Othereise the Track shifting technique works pretty well both in theory and practicality)
I have watching your videos for 2 years and a half now.... You also mentioned in your stream a year ago and I was so happy im making a request Can you please make a tutorial on kpop
just a tip, stop filming in 60 fps or higher film in 24fps, pretty much all movies you watch are in 24fps anything about makes it look jittery and just unpleasant to look at. awesome content though thank you!!! legend
If you do all of this and still find your bass drowns out your kick or your kick drowns out your bass, you can also try a gentle sloping hi cut filter on the bass. this will lower the volume of the bass as it goes deeper, and thus will cut how boomy the bass is.
Fun tip for subs and basses. Take a one waveform from the kick and put it into serum or what you want, dyro made a tutorial on it long ago.
can you link to the tutorial? I'm not sure what you mean by this?
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Finally Tech house tutorials again! 👏😃
I don't even know how I ended up on this link.....I sure as hell don't know 1 thing that you have just said, but......I couldn't stop watching and stayed to the end. Mind blown.......nothing better than listening and watching a master in there field at work...BRILLIANT (I think)
I wouldn't worried about having a good punchy waveform before putting the sidechain because it will not make it feel the punchiness when it's activated. I would work on the transients and the punchy waveform when the Kick and Bass are together and just trying to separate the bass to the next kick to make the bass feel deeper.
Great tutorial. That compressor rlly made that bass punchy 🤯
That was brilliant. I must buy LFO tool some time. My biggest struggle with making music is writing Baselines and melodys. Trying to come up with catchy patterns. I wish I could learn music theory but I don't have the patience. Each tune I make I get better with practice but still I feel I'm a noob despite making tunes with 2 years now
You have to play the long game. Notice where your weaknesses are and work on them bit by bit. No one writes a hit overnight.
Hey Zen, Just wanted to thank you making really great packs and really great tutorials. Currently enjoying the Deciever Vol.2 pack.
Appreciate the support my man and glad you are enjoying it!
So just for people’s info, the smooth setting on LFO tool isn’t the same as bringing the trailing LFO edge in like in the video. It’s actually like a short release into the attack. So chronologically it’s effect appears at the start of your lfo.
Programming wise, it’s probably some cubic interpolation. And personally I like to do what he did in the video over using smooth. Maybe I’ll use a but if smooth, but I don’t like how it will technically allow sound into your kick since it takes place at the start of the new beat.
2am on a Monday still watching zen 🫡🔥🔥🔥🔥
All I make is tech these are dope videos still can’t get that hypnotizing percussions with the hypnotizing basss I’m stuck on the 909 kicks and kit as well . My sound is pretty descent but not the type of tech I listen to ! But love ur videos bro ponlÉ compa I’m watching 👌
Good tutorial. Diggin the track too. Finish this one!
Imanbek Bass if you can please.
You have inspired me from the start man all these years seeing you make tracks and I am always waiting on your tutorials like what would be his next series ok techno then tech House now what. All love Zen ❤️
Tight using lfo tool to check the waveform. This honestly helped me a lot lol
Thank you so much for all your videos and packs. :)
Class tutor you zen 👊🏻
Thank you for this one your tutorials have helped me alot past 2 years
Good in-depth tutorial with some really good tips. Thanks
Ya boiiii is back. Yes Zen!
Thanks !
Invaluable. Thank you, man.
quality content. solid tips on the bass compression.
Hi Zen World, could you teach us how to make Guaracha like daniel parranda please I really want to learn it.
Great vid thx! Can you show us how to mix Tech House Drums please?
Are you finishing this off with a kick/bass bus compressor to glue them together? That's like the icing on the cake is it not? Also I'm curious to know when you use a longer kick vs a shorter in combination with these baselines. I find some kicks have a perfect tone for certain baseelines but can be too long, and then if i cut off/re shape the end with LFO or envelope then you lose the weight behind it. If you have a more in-your-face bassiine, are you using shorter punchier kicks?
I love u dad, I learn a lot from my dad :)
Zen do you do a low cut on the sub bass, to avoid a messy mix!!
Please answer. Ive seen KC Lights do this too.
I do it here and there the problem is I've read it can mess with phase! I do it though
Thanks boss!!
Hi there! Would you make a start to finish progressive house tutorial? Or Future House... But start to finish :)
THX MY MAN!
7:11 What if we use Sidechain Ducking (like this, using LFOTools or Volumeshaper) as well as SoundRadix Pi (Dynamic Phase rotation Plugin) for Phase alignment between Kick and Bass so that all the low ends always stays in Phase?
at 15:37, the click happens due to the fact that the attack time is too low and the compressor is working on the peaks and trough of the signal instead of its volume contour because the attack time is fucking 0.020 ms and it is low frequesncy. Timeperiod = 1 upon Frequency and so the time period of a 100 Hz signal is 10 ms. So in cases like this, we need lookahead compression or just using Custom sidechain compression. Say we want to compress, contents of track A with 0 attack time. so duplicate Track A and name it Track A1. Now shift Track A1's contents to the left by 20 ms. Now put compressor on Track A and use Track A1 as the Key input to the external sidechain of the compressor and set attack time to 20 ms. That way, contents of Track A will be compressed with 0 attack time (In a way, this is the concept that created lookahead feature)
That's an interesting experiment to try. As for the Compressor clicking yeah I should of setup that a bit more properly but was just trying to get the example out. I personally never run attacks that low on my bass.
that's so much physics involved.
@@ZenWorld I know, that you are pretty much aware of these things and I also know that you didn't check the compressor attack time just because you were in a hurry to make this video quickly. 😁.
You are a great teacher. No disrespect to you. I just wrote this comment down for others.
(On the context of this experiment, you can acrually try sound radix Pi and Powair. I think, as far as the digital technology goes, soundradix is the only company that uses digital domain to its full potential. Othereise the Track shifting technique works pretty well both in theory and practicality)
zen you are awesome
Really cool!!!
Thank you.
But there's a 4th step in this progress...
...get 200 bucks to have Decapitator... :-)))
But the video helps a lot...
Oh nice
Thanks Bobby
I have watching your videos for 2 years and a half now....
You also mentioned in your stream a year ago and I was so happy
im making a request
Can you please make a tutorial on kpop
I am the first viewer and commenter..🤗
Bro, stop reading my mind! are you in my studio?
He bugged ur studio
People think zen is all about pumping and thrusting to release. But he listens too bro.
Yes Below everything
Beep beep xx
15:30 XD
Bring some tutorial of trap and heavy bass genres.
just a tip, stop filming in 60 fps or higher film in 24fps, pretty much all movies you watch are in 24fps anything about makes it look jittery and just unpleasant to look at. awesome content though thank you!!! legend
Thanks I'll give it a shot. I thought 60fps with a camera stand would work good but I can see what you mean!