I like on Yesterday's Enterprise, Guinan tells Picard "you gotta let Tasha go back, don't be a jerk." Then, in Reunification when Sela makes contact, Guinan says to Picard "this is all your fault, you sent Tasha back in time." Poor guy just can't get a break.
Riker: "You were right. Somebody blew out the hatch. They were all sucked out into space." Data: "Correction, sir, that's blown out." Riker: "Thank you, Data." Data: "A common mistake, sir."
What gets me pissed is that those nanoprobes were never used again to resurrect anyone, so apparently Joseph Carey (assistant chief engineer) was less vital to the mission than bad cook Neelix?
Wouldn’t the next gen episode Cause and Effect fit on this list? Technically, the Enterprise blows up and kills everyone on board for a few seconds before the time loop kicks in.
“These are the voyages” is only redeemed by the novel series that starts with ‘The Good that Men Do” where “dead” Trip is surgically altered to infiltrate Romulus to try to stop the Romulan War.
Which is weird because that malfunctioning holodeck program that Riker and Troi used was about a supposed event that happened after the Romulan War. The TATV story and the books are totally messed up.
@@GoGreen1977 According to the novels, that holodeck program and all official records regarding Trip's death were deliberate fabrications. You could tell that the authors REALLY had no love for the episode whatsoever.
In deadlock wasn't it actually all matter on the ship was split in two. It was only the antimatter that couldn't duplicate. So both Harry's were the Harry we followed from episode one.
Ensign Lyndsay Ballard in Star Trek Voyager episode 6e18 “Ashes to Ashes” After her body is jettisoned into space, a race known as the Kobali reanimated her and renamed her Jhet’leya.
Harry Kim also died in Emanations (S01E09) when he has to go into the death chamber that transports him back to the "cemetary" planet covered in cocoon and the crew can revive him.
If I'm not mistaken it was written by Berman and Braga very early in the series run, so they would have a ready-made finale (only slightly tweaked) whenever the show got canceled
It’s not a great episode, and they did Tripp dirty, but it’s really not the worst thing ever. It would have been fine if it wasn’t the last episode, but then, it wouldn’t fit anywhere else.
It’s not perfectly clear that he actually dies, but I’m pretty surprised McCoy getting lanced in Shore leave isn’t on the list. Makes for an interesting thought when paired with that scene mentioned from ST IV
I'm not sure I do, actually. I thought that Talarian was supposed to be his replacement. It's funny bringing Shax back with literally no explanation, but it's also lazy writing and proving the point you can't take the series seriously, which I otherwise would love to.
I guess it's intentional - to avoid full spoilers in a way, perhaps? Like they alluded to it, showing his picture and him alive, so maybe they didn't want to just straight up say it when the episode is only very recently out.
Jeffery Combs is the so cool, meet him about two years ago and my oldest got his autograph as Transformers Prime Ratchet and wrote, I needed that. His catch phrase from Transformers.
Denise Crosby is a class act. I was once working at an event which had an actor from Stargate listed as the headline personality/speaker, (the only acting personality, probably the least known, most background character, you might recognize and whose name I won't mention,) and he dropped out at almost literally the last minute. Somehow someone was able to reach Denise Crosby and she came in, and I never saw her with the fans, but I did see her, and her beautiful smile, behind the scenes and she was so nice, friendly and warm to everyone it was marvelous. And yeah, I too hated That death on Enterprise. As always thank you so very much for the video.
Just like to point out, there is a book, called The Return, written by Shatner (I've got a copy), where a Romulan, after making an alliance with the Borg, brings kirk back after the fight with Soran, and tries to use him against Starfleet. Also, STO addresses the lose ends around Kai Opaca and the first Harry kim (who gets found by the species that are basically trek's answer to Necromorphs)
What about "Cause and Effect," where the entire Enterprise-D crew gets blown to bits all before the introductory credits? And it gets destroyed again and again.
I think the way the Borg queen returns is a similar way to how cyberleaders work in doctor who which is that the body is destroyed but the conscience is uploaded to a new one
I think it's implied that the scene with Trip alive was actually an event with chef/Riker that happened before he died, and they decided to show it in that order. Not that in the actual trek timeline he was resurrected. So I think it's not worth even mentioning on this list.
personally I hope Q turns Picard back into a human in season 2. That whole exposition about his consciousness being uploaded, but still having the same lifespan that he would have had before (like Patrick Stewart no doubt) felt completely unnecessary. I didn't want Picard to die, but it felt like a cop out.
I suspect he'll offer it (or even do it) but Picard would say no (or demand to be returned to his previous state) because Picard really has a thing against Q changing things that shouldn't be. Or rather, he's against Q messing with humanity or the Federation in any way whatsoever because it removes their urgency and free will.
I came here to say this. The episode was mortal coil. Also technically in voyager Janeway and Torres both die in "Before and after" makes way more sense than seskas inclusion on this list
I sometimes wonder if Harry Kim has just forgotten he came from another Voyager or if he always thinks about it. Also...if everyone knew what Naomi would become. I'd left her on Voyager 2.
I agree wholeheartedly that "These Are the Voyages" has MYRIAD problems. My recommendation? Read the novel The Good that Men Do. The novel does the best possible job that anyone could do at fixing that horrible episode without just discarding it entirely, and it is and shall remain my own head canon unless or until something definitively makes it impossible.
That novel struck me as Shatner having an incredibly self-serving moment and giving the finger to whomever decided Kirk was going to die in Generations.
Didn't the two Voyagers have the exact same experiences until the episode Deadlock? So it's the same Harry and Naomi for all intents and purposes. I don't want to think about what they did with the other Naomi's remains but I'm pretty certain Neelix served her up for breakfast at some point.
Yes the two timeliness diverged so close to each other that Both Harry's have the same memories up to the last few hours and if I recall correctly its actually our prime voyager that gets destroyed so the living Harry is actually the original Harry not the duplicate.
Love how Into Darkness glossed over Dr McCoy experimenting on another life form, seemingly just for shits and giggles. And why did he even have a tribble? Where did it come from?? How does he only have one tribble???
btw theres also a Mission in Star trek online where you have Harry Kim from the episode as a transforming into an Kobali the mission for opaka is in gamma quadrant arc amristice the harry kim 1 is in the delta quadrant arc dust to dust
That's always been my take on it. The Borg are more like bees than just the "hive-mind." Either the cubes are like individual hives, each with their own queen, or there's one queen for the entire Borg race, and when she dies, a new queen is created.
It *is* the same Harry Kim that was on Deep Space 9. The duplication only happens in the episode itself, so everything before that is just as rightfully his true timeline as it is the other Voyager's.
Miles o’Brian watched himself die from the phaser blast while he was phasing back & forth in time. He died twice in that episode. Man is the most important man in starfleet so can’t be killed
The Borg Queen that appeared in Voyager was not the same Borg Queen that died in First Contact, so that does not count. The were not the same Borg Queen, so it does not count.
I have to say (but am not too happy to say it!) that Kai Opaca was most likely content with staying on the moon in Battle Lines because facing the possibility of her people finding out her betrayal would have been too terrible for her.
The one with Harry Kim and Naomi Wildman, in my opinion, that episode should never have been made. It's a very sad and tragic one, and it doesn't help that you're just a duplicate. Especially for Naomi and her Mom. That's too sad.
maybe they could do a crossover with The Princess Bride universe, and you could include their Wesley ... "only MOSTLY dead." and Wouldn't the Borg Queen "naturally" be replaced with another Borg Queen 'replicant'? (I know that's not the word they use, but ... it makes sense, yeah?) ... even if she's 'replaced' by a cyborg that's given a memory-wipe (kinda like that queen in the DOCTOR WHO episode) and "Umm, Actually ..." Harry Kim is not "sucked" into space, he's "expelled" (a science-fact I actually learned from one of Data's smarty-pants quips)
10. You forgot a Worf Death. Season 3 episode "Transfigurations", again, death by cargo container. The Alien with crazy powers brings him back shortly afterwards.
I never liked the Borg Queen. She was nothing more than Cenobite in Space to me. Plus her existence provided a highly exploitable weakness that crippled how scary the Borg were. As for sexy? She looked like a rotting corpse. Agree about Jeffrey Combs needing to be in all Star Treks.
I like on Yesterday's Enterprise, Guinan tells Picard "you gotta let Tasha go back, don't be a jerk."
Then, in Reunification when Sela makes contact, Guinan says to Picard "this is all your fault, you sent Tasha back in time."
Poor guy just can't get a break.
Perhaps the Enterprise C would not have done what history needed without her…a necessary evil.
It was some good Sci Fi to bring Sela into the picture but I feel it cheapens Tasha choosing to go back with the Ent C
Worf _also_ died in “Transfigurations”, only to be healed seconds later by “John Doe”.
"B'Elanna gets to watch Harry get sucked out into space."
Blown out.
Sure?
Riker: "You were right. Somebody blew out the hatch. They were all sucked out into space."
Data: "Correction, sir, that's blown out."
Riker: "Thank you, Data."
Data: "A common mistake, sir."
I don't think Harry-prime cares... anymore
@@ranwolf7650 That's a fair point.
Harry Kim had a Resurrection experience in “Emanations” a whole year before “Deadlock”. Dr. McCoy also died & was resurrected in “Shore Leave”.
Was just going to mention McCoy in Shore Leave. ;)
You missed Janeway in Coda, and then the entire Voyager crew in Relativity.
You forgot the episode in TNG, where Picard is shot in the chest and dies on the table when his artificial heart stopped.
But was he dead? Wasn't he in a "in between" state?
@@lykan2 "This is the afterlife. You are dead. I am god." - Q
@@countluke2334 I can counter that with two words: “It’s Q”
true.
I am somewhat bummed out that Picard is missing from the list with his death and Q giving him the chance to "undo" his life in Tapestry.
@Scitch87...I think because they left it open to interpretation as whether Picard really died or if it was a Q trick.
That episode was meant as a nod to Frank Capra’s Its A Wonderful Life.
@@bonusbaby801 might be but in that case Seska never really came "back" from the dead since she was just a hologram.
I would also include Picard being assimilated by the Borg, as that is effectively death.
OK, I really can't believe Neelix wasn't number one on this list from mortal coil where he was dead for 18 hours and was only saved by nanoprobes.
What gets me pissed is that those nanoprobes were never used again to resurrect anyone, so apparently Joseph Carey (assistant chief engineer) was less vital to the mission than bad cook Neelix?
@@tigerbread78Agreed! I thought that same thing.
That's what I was waiting for I'm stunned that's not even on the list.
Neelix is dead in most people's heads, and they're more than happy for him to stay that way heh.
Thank you.
I agree, Jeffrey Comes should be in every star trek series going forward.
It's too bad JJ Abrams didn't use Jeffrey somewhere!
Wouldn’t the next gen episode Cause and Effect fit on this list? Technically, the Enterprise blows up and kills everyone on board for a few seconds before the time loop kicks in.
Harry's the original Harry. It's the alt-Voyager that was the clone!!
“These are the voyages” is only redeemed by the novel series that starts with ‘The Good that Men Do” where “dead” Trip is surgically altered to infiltrate Romulus to try to stop the Romulan War.
Which is weird because that malfunctioning holodeck program that Riker and Troi used was about a supposed event that happened after the Romulan War. The TATV story and the books are totally messed up.
@@GoGreen1977 According to the novels, that holodeck program and all official records regarding Trip's death were deliberate fabrications. You could tell that the authors REALLY had no love for the episode whatsoever.
These are the voyages was fake and Riker just made some weird holodeck fake Programme.
In deadlock wasn't it actually all matter on the ship was split in two. It was only the antimatter that couldn't duplicate. So both Harry's were the Harry we followed from episode one.
Ensign Lyndsay Ballard in Star Trek Voyager episode 6e18 “Ashes to Ashes”
After her body is jettisoned into space, a race known as the Kobali reanimated her and renamed her Jhet’leya.
Worf also kicks the bucket in TNG's Season 3 Transfigurations and is resurrected by the guy who's slowly evolving into his species next form.
The caption said "Ki Alpaca" the first time.
When I rewound to see it again, it said "Kai Opaca".
I laughed more than I want to admit.
Tubthumping could be Star Trek's unofficial theme song.
"I get knocked down, but I get up again
You're never gonna keep me down" 🎵🎶
Totally agree
lately its.. "we get locked down.. and up again" haha!
Harry Kim also died in Emanations (S01E09) when he has to go into the death chamber that transports him back to the "cemetary" planet covered in cocoon and the crew can revive him.
Why is Seska on this list? She didn’t come back from the dead. 🙄
"These are the voyages" is a sloppy middle schoolers homework that any teacher would fail.
I'm sorry, but I liked it.
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 You may have liked it, but it would still fail a class assignment
If I'm not mistaken it was written by Berman and Braga very early in the series run, so they would have a ready-made finale (only slightly tweaked) whenever the show got canceled
@@boriszakharin3189 figures
It’s not a great episode, and they did Tripp dirty, but it’s really not the worst thing ever. It would have been fine if it wasn’t the last episode, but then, it wouldn’t fit anywhere else.
Another well done job presenting some cool fact in Star Trek by the TrekCulture team. Thank SEAN
It’s not perfectly clear that he actually dies, but I’m pretty surprised McCoy getting lanced in Shore leave isn’t on the list. Makes for an interesting thought when paired with that scene mentioned from ST IV
To clarify, Alice Krige returned for the final Voyager episode, Endgame. I know that was implied, but I felt it needed pointing out.
No Shax? Disappointed. I love how Lower Decks handled that.
I'm not sure I do, actually. I thought that Talarian was supposed to be his replacement. It's funny bringing Shax back with literally no explanation, but it's also lazy writing and proving the point you can't take the series seriously, which I otherwise would love to.
I guess it's intentional - to avoid full spoilers in a way, perhaps? Like they alluded to it, showing his picture and him alive, so maybe they didn't want to just straight up say it when the episode is only very recently out.
The whole "These are the voyages" thing.... I agree.
You also forgot about Wilson Cruz's character in Discovery (Dr Hugh Culbver) but manages to come back.
What can I say... I enjoy your work! Keep it up! Live long and prosper!
In Star Trek Online, a storyline revisits Kai Opaka, and she was successful at bringing peace to the Nol and Ennis.
Nomads mission was to find inhabited planets. Tan- Ru mission was to sterilize planets. Once merged, Nomad was sterilizing inhabited planets.
If you want to see what happened to Kirk after Generations, may I suggest a book from William Shatner called The Return
In Shore Leave McCoy _DID_ die. He was pierced through the chest by a knight on horseback!
When McCoy comes back, he says he never died.
When McCoy comes back, he says he never died.
Jeffery Combs is the so cool, meet him about two years ago and my oldest got his autograph as Transformers Prime Ratchet and wrote, I needed that. His catch phrase from Transformers.
Denise Crosby is a class act. I was once working at an event which had an actor from Stargate listed as the headline personality/speaker, (the only acting personality, probably the least known, most background character, you might recognize and whose name I won't mention,) and he dropped out at almost literally the last minute. Somehow someone was able to reach Denise Crosby and she came in, and I never saw her with the fans, but I did see her, and her beautiful smile, behind the scenes and she was so nice, friendly and warm to everyone it was marvelous.
And yeah, I too hated That death on Enterprise.
As always thank you so very much for the video.
She is amazing, love her as an actress, and incredible individual.
I sat down to watch this thinking "If Harry Kim isn't #1, this gets a thumbs down".
You got.your thumbs up.
👍
Just like to point out, there is a book, called The Return, written by Shatner (I've got a copy), where a Romulan, after making an alliance with the Borg, brings kirk back after the fight with Soran, and tries to use him against Starfleet.
Also, STO addresses the lose ends around Kai Opaca and the first Harry kim (who gets found by the species that are basically trek's answer to Necromorphs)
What about "Cause and Effect," where the entire Enterprise-D crew gets blown to bits all before the introductory credits? And it gets destroyed again and again.
Oh, I love that episode! I don’t think I do much as blinked during the entire commercial break.
love the moments where Sean tries to rationalise what happened and the signal cuts out as if to say he gave up lol - brilliant :)
13:30 and he is back again in STO
And Kai Opaka is freed from the Ennis prison planet in the Victory Is Life arc.
I think the way the Borg queen returns is a similar way to how cyberleaders work in doctor who which is that the body is destroyed but the conscience is uploaded to a new one
Also the Cylons
Do we know that it's the same Borg Queen? Might it be that each Borg cube has a Queen?
Awesome episode Sean love the way you deliver each episode
I think it's implied that the scene with Trip alive was actually an event with chef/Riker that happened before he died, and they decided to show it in that order. Not that in the actual trek timeline he was resurrected. So I think it's not worth even mentioning on this list.
I love this channel. Sean is my favorite :D THANKS
What about the whole ship in TNG "Cause and Effect"?
When watching ds9 I was certain jadzia was going to come back, spoiler alert, she didn’t 😢
Don't tell my wife. I've finally got her into ds9 and she loves Jadzia
McCoy-"Shore Leave". Skewered by a knight on horseback.
And Chekov, killed by The Earp Clan.
15:48 That's straight up a D'deridex class warp nacelle in Bashir's hands.
personally I hope Q turns Picard back into a human in season 2. That whole exposition about his consciousness being uploaded, but still having the same lifespan that he would have had before (like Patrick Stewart no doubt) felt completely unnecessary. I didn't want Picard to die, but it felt like a cop out.
I didn't want him to die either but how they kept him alive was so bad I wish he'd stayed dead. Hopefully Q reverses it.
I suspect he'll offer it (or even do it) but Picard would say no (or demand to be returned to his previous state) because Picard really has a thing against Q changing things that shouldn't be. Or rather, he's against Q messing with humanity or the Federation in any way whatsoever because it removes their urgency and free will.
@@andromidius I would say making Picard an android removes his agency, but I get your point
Neelix and the nanoprobes? Or did I miss it as wasn't paying attention due to cooking.
I came here to say this. The episode was mortal coil. Also technically in voyager Janeway and Torres both die in "Before and after" makes way more sense than seskas inclusion on this list
Great video loved it i love the messed up time travel duplicate episodes
I sometimes wonder if Harry Kim has just forgotten he came from another Voyager or if he always thinks about it.
Also...if everyone knew what Naomi would become. I'd left her on Voyager 2.
I agree wholeheartedly that "These Are the Voyages" has MYRIAD problems. My recommendation? Read the novel The Good that Men Do. The novel does the best possible job that anyone could do at fixing that horrible episode without just discarding it entirely, and it is and shall remain my own head canon unless or until something definitively makes it impossible.
While not live action, Kirk escaped death AGAIN (after Generations) after the Borg reanimated him in the Star Trek novel The Return.
That novel struck me as Shatner having an incredibly self-serving moment and giving the finger to whomever decided Kirk was going to die in Generations.
At least Trip is alive in the books
Neelix in mortal coil would have been a good one to include
Side note on Harvey Kim on Star Trek Online the other Kim's body is found by the Kobali and gets rebirth.
Neelix - Mortal Coil
And Tuvix
There are too many temporary deaths in Star Trek to keep in one video. I expect part two.
Probably a part 3, 4 and 5 too.
I always forget the episode with Harry Kim dying. Voyager manages to kill a baby then make it better latter.
Star Trek VI
Scotty: Then we’re dead.
Spock: I’ve been dead before!
Didn't the two Voyagers have the exact same experiences until the episode Deadlock? So it's the same Harry and Naomi for all intents and purposes. I don't want to think about what they did with the other Naomi's remains but I'm pretty certain Neelix served her up for breakfast at some point.
Yes the two timeliness diverged so close to each other that Both Harry's have the same memories up to the last few hours and if I recall correctly its actually our prime voyager that gets destroyed so the living Harry is actually the original Harry not the duplicate.
Technically, the entire Enterprise D crew multiple times in 'Cause & Effect'.
Impressive list!
Captain Kirk always knew he would die on the Bridge.
Well he was close, he died under a bridge.
Love how Into Darkness glossed over Dr McCoy experimenting on another life form, seemingly just for shits and giggles. And why did he even have a tribble? Where did it come from?? How does he only have one tribble???
btw theres also a Mission in Star trek online where you have Harry Kim from the episode as a transforming into an Kobali the mission for opaka is in gamma quadrant arc amristice the harry kim 1 is in the delta quadrant arc dust to dust
I completely forgot about Harry Kim's death.
There are many queens in the Borg hive, like Weyouns in the Dominion.
That's always been my take on it.
The Borg are more like bees than just the "hive-mind." Either the cubes are like individual hives, each with their own queen, or there's one queen for the entire Borg race, and when she dies, a new queen is created.
It *is* the same Harry Kim that was on Deep Space 9. The duplication only happens in the episode itself, so everything before that is just as rightfully his true timeline as it is the other Voyager's.
This is why "Star Trek death" entered the common vernacular.
Suddenly Rick and Morty replacing their dead selves in an alternate universe doesn’t sound so outlandish lol
Seven died multiple times in 'Relativity'?
Dennis I meet her this year and I think that she did wish she stayed on. I wish she never left either.
Best way to describe Visionary: Wibbly wobbly timey wimey.
Great video!
Miles o’Brian watched himself die from the phaser blast while he was phasing back & forth in time. He died twice in that episode. Man is the most important man in starfleet so can’t be killed
Wesley was also killed and brought back in "Hide & Q"
We didn't get Sisko when he was killed and then stuck in subspace and Jake spent his whole life trying to get him out.
The Borg Queen that appeared in Voyager was not the same Borg Queen that died in First Contact, so that does not count. The were not the same Borg Queen, so it does not count.
What about neelix?
The Borg queen was also in Gretel and Hansel as the witch
Tom Paris didn't "de-evolve". Breaking the warp 10 barrier sped up his evolution.
Who cares, it didn't make sense anyway.
It is more like transformation than evolution.
I have to say (but am not too happy to say it!) that Kai Opaca was most likely content with staying on the moon in Battle Lines because facing the possibility of her people finding out her betrayal would have been too terrible for her.
I'd like to see the Ceritos visit the planet she stayed behind on. Would be good to see if she managed to bring peace to the two warring factions.
How did Shaxs put it? "Scientific depravity."
What about that once or twice used sick Bay machine that could Jump start your brain . it was used at least twice on TNG s first season.
I always thought that DS9 episode *Battle Lines* was very similar to the Space 1999 episode *Death's other Dominion*
You're right, they are connected
#2 sounds like something Steven Moffat might write
Technically both Harrys are the original Harry.
Harry Kim had another 'death' experience in the episode "Emanations" When he was in the egg-shaped contraption that sends him back-it kills him first
Romulan warbird at 15:48!
The one with Harry Kim and Naomi Wildman, in my opinion, that episode should never have been made. It's a very sad and tragic one, and it doesn't help that you're just a duplicate. Especially for Naomi and her Mom. That's too sad.
maybe they could do a crossover with The Princess Bride universe, and you could include their Wesley ... "only MOSTLY dead."
and Wouldn't the Borg Queen "naturally" be replaced with another Borg Queen 'replicant'? (I know that's not the word they use, but ... it makes sense, yeah?) ... even if she's 'replaced' by a cyborg that's given a memory-wipe (kinda like that queen in the DOCTOR WHO episode)
and "Umm, Actually ..." Harry Kim is not "sucked" into space, he's "expelled" (a science-fact I actually learned from one of Data's smarty-pants quips)
What about Riker (and then probably the whole Enterprise D) in Yesterday's Enterprise?
Don't forget how everyone died multiple times during "Cause and Effect" as well.
In Transfiguration Worf is also hurled onto the shuttle bay and killed, only for John Doe to heal him.
you missed Rao Vantika - DS9 and Bareil Antos- DS9
"Bridge on the Captain."
but we all know, Kirk was resuscitated after this incident in Shatners insane novels.
I'm actually surprised Culber wasn't on there.
10. You forgot a Worf Death. Season 3 episode "Transfigurations", again, death by cargo container. The Alien with crazy powers brings him back shortly afterwards.
Fun watch!
Shaxs should've been #1. Because he's able to tell Rutherford what being dead was really like
Kirk in Amok Time. And also in The Enterprise Incident.
I never liked the Borg Queen. She was nothing more than Cenobite in Space to me. Plus her existence provided a highly exploitable weakness that crippled how scary the Borg were. As for sexy? She looked like a rotting corpse.
Agree about Jeffrey Combs needing to be in all Star Treks.
I had questions about O’Brien’s consciousness. I mean what happened to it. It made my head hurt thinking about it.