Read this a long time ago and so some underlying patterns that may explain why the seven plots have this order. These story structures roughly follow our life arc. As a kid, we love "overcoming the monster" movies (Spiderman, Superman stuff) given the innocent certainty of a child though as we grow we see more nuances in these monsters (and many a times within us). In our teens, we are insecure and uncertain about being accepted and so want to overcome the likely ridicule that we are poor, not good looking, too weak, less knowledgeable etc. Hence the rags to riches structure appeals more to this age group though as we grow the kind of ridicule we face changes. In our youth, our goals become a little more clear and so story structures around the Quest make sense more (even romance feels like a pursuit or probably a teenage fantasy as in the rags to riches story!). By the time we hit the middle age, we see the irony in our lives and so learn to appreciate it with fresh eyes as an experience to be savoured, of a voyage and return story. As we age further but still a little away from old age, we see the comedy of it all. In old age, we have two choices...seeing life as a tragedy of errors or as a lesson to pass on the wisdom learnt to others. Hence we breathe our life into the lives of others...a kind of immortality gained through rebirth of our ideas and memory of a well lived life. I see a rough correlation of story structure to the life stage personas as well. If nothing else, it is a useful way to remember the seven plots.
Book recommendation: "A swim in a pond in the rain" by George Saunders. The book does an amazing job of analyzing seven wonderful short stories by Russian masters such as Tolstoy, Chekov and Gogol. Can't say the stories fit into the seven basic plots discussed here, but anybody who enjoyed this episode will surely enjoy the book.
Hey guys! i think there is one more basic plot you could include. the five parts are: Introduction, Methodology, Results, Discussion, and Conclusion. I'll leave the title of this plot as an exercise for the reader
This book explores the structures of mythologies around the world and how they have common themes running across them and that’s the 12 stages of development / transformation that these mythological heroes go through. Fascinating book
I wonder if we could employ De Zwart’s framework to better understand the seven basic plots. In each story, there will be actions (intended, unintended) and consequences (anticipated, unanticipated).
Loved this episode! Reminded me of this beautiful lecture by Kurt Vonnegut called “The Shape of Stories” th-cam.com/video/GOGru_4z1Vc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8U8EH-OFQxaqhCJd
Read this a long time ago and so some underlying patterns that may explain why the seven plots have this order. These story structures roughly follow our life arc. As a kid, we love "overcoming the monster" movies (Spiderman, Superman stuff) given the innocent certainty of a child though as we grow we see more nuances in these monsters (and many a times within us). In our teens, we are insecure and uncertain about being accepted and so want to overcome the likely ridicule that we are poor, not good looking, too weak, less knowledgeable etc. Hence the rags to riches structure appeals more to this age group though as we grow the kind of ridicule we face changes. In our youth, our goals become a little more clear and so story structures around the Quest make sense more (even romance feels like a pursuit or probably a teenage fantasy as in the rags to riches story!). By the time we hit the middle age, we see the irony in our lives and so learn to appreciate it with fresh eyes as an experience to be savoured, of a voyage and return story. As we age further but still a little away from old age, we see the comedy of it all. In old age, we have two choices...seeing life as a tragedy of errors or as a lesson to pass on the wisdom learnt to others. Hence we breathe our life into the lives of others...a kind of immortality gained through rebirth of our ideas and memory of a well lived life. I see a rough correlation of story structure to the life stage personas as well. If nothing else, it is a useful way to remember the seven plots.
When I read the title, I assumed it's going to be Ajay telling us about how to make the 7 basic plots in Python.
Magnificent assumption!
Lev Said - How much does a man require? , I say - Everything is Everything and The Seen and the Unseen!
thats answering "what does a man require?" not "How much does a man require?".
I'll show myself out.
Book recommendation: "A swim in a pond in the rain" by George Saunders. The book does an amazing job of analyzing seven wonderful short stories by Russian masters such as Tolstoy, Chekov and Gogol. Can't say the stories fit into the seven basic plots discussed here, but anybody who enjoyed this episode will surely enjoy the book.
Hey guys! i think there is one more basic plot you could include. the five parts are: Introduction, Methodology, Results, Discussion, and Conclusion. I'll leave the title of this plot as an exercise for the reader
"Mohan Joshi Hazir Ho!" - Fits the Overcoming the Monster (Indian State) trope :)
44 mins is too less. I wait the entire week for this, atleast 1.5 hours toh banta hai. Please?
Quality matters, I expect quality from EIE, length doesn’t matter
Listen to the seen and the unseen for 10 hrs
@@und1sputedsaura972Quality of the highest order is a given with both of them. The heart wants more and more content buss😂
To Ajay's question, the poignant and subtle comedy genre does exist. I'm reminded of "A man called Ove".
Just hearing the first few minutes, the book “The Hero with a thousand faces” by Joseph Campbell comes to mind!
This book explores the structures of mythologies around the world and how they have common themes running across them and that’s the 12 stages of development / transformation that these mythological heroes go through. Fascinating book
@@shashankprabhakar4976 Yes, that's a foundational classic, and Christopher Booker refers to him often in his book, I think.
Wish it was longer
I wonder if we could employ De Zwart’s framework to better understand the seven basic plots. In each story, there will be actions (intended, unintended) and consequences (anticipated, unanticipated).
Thanks, this sounds interesting, will look it up!
@@amitvarma Thanks so much for the response! ♥️🙂
✅ What an excellent topic ❤❤❤Love from WEST BENGALI ❤️❤️❤️ Thanks a lot.🙏🙏🙏
My Fridays are sorted with EIE.
Loved this episode! Reminded me of this beautiful lecture by Kurt Vonnegut called “The Shape of Stories”
th-cam.com/video/GOGru_4z1Vc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8U8EH-OFQxaqhCJd
Thanks, will check that out!
I came here to post the exact same thing!
Ajay shah you Beauty.
25:35 " Zindagi na milegi dobara"
The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho- The Quest.
this time i want to know the amits Outfit details! EIE team can i know the details? PLEASE
Patiala salwar and kurta. I'm a bit fan of patialas.
@@amitvarma 🥰