Mike, I agree with your review! My SS is 92 mph Driver, and today was the first day I was able to trial the Air after testing the 2024 Pro Plus and finding it too firm for my liking with less forgiveness than what Nick’s data showed. I HAVE FOUND MY GOLFBALL. The seemingly never ending search has ended! Best way for me to describe the Pro Air is to imagine the current 87 compression ProV1 with a compression of 75 (That’s the compression of the Air). For those who want to feel soft and springy, with very good control, this is Nirvana. I’ll be backing up the truck when the next FreePrint offer is available.
Greetings Nick, I tried the Vice Pro Air after watching your review. Wow! What a ball! This fits my 88 - 90 mph driver swing speed. I experienced excellent distance and all the checkup I needed on the green. Also, just enough feedback to let me know how well I hit or mishit the ball. Vice balls seem to have better durability than the Snell balls. The Pro Air is now replacing the Snell Prime as my ball of choice.
After watching your reviews and trying several balls, these are now my go to ball. Just ordered 6 dozen. Can't beat them (or the price.) They are straighter and longer off my driver, great in the wind and hold greens as good as the pro v1 for me.
So I played this ball today and it’s now in the bag! Also I use a 2024 phantom 5 putter which is blade like for a mallet and it felt great. Provided a click and didn’t feel dead. Just thought I would share that. Also I would describe this ball as like an ion off the tee box and a urethane around the green. Thanks for your reviews!
I have been using the Vice Pro for some time. In my humble opinion they are THE best ball on the market. I experimented with a few balls, (including the alleged best ball in golf), Snell,Kirkland,Inesis etc, and found the vice pro the most consistent. Cant wait to test their irons.
Anytime friend. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment and watch. I really strive to make sure my reviews are 100% authentic. They always will be
I love that you take so much time to review each ball. I'm a loyal Vice player, and I've been interested in trying the Pro Air. Their site says it still works for higher swing speed players, but I just compress the Pro Soft (and the former Pro Zero) too much. Thanks for these reviews! Off to check out your review of the Tour Ball!
Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. The vice air is an amazing golf ball and has a premium soft feel. Very few golf balls feel like that on the market
Hi, Nick. Thanks as always for another thoughtful, thorough review. This is a ball I really like and it looks like Vice is doing a tremendous job with its updates! One note: I don't think I saw a mention of forgiveness on this review or the review of the new Drive ball. I know you've said your swing is improving (congrats on that!), but I hope you'll continue to give feedback on forgiveness, as you have in the past. Forgiveness is a major factor in my search for golf balls I like and your channel has been incredibly helpful for that. Your assessment of forgiveness helped me discover the Cut Red, Wilson Zip, regular Q-Star and the ERC. And in the past, you've also helped me steer clear of a few balls like the TruFeel since my swing is still kind of a mess and your review spoke about the TruFeel being a punisher on mis-hits. I really like the older Vice Pro Soft and Drive models, and I'm glad those balls are improving, but I'd also like to know how the new balls compare to the older models for forgiveness. Thanks again for all you do!
Nick, what a service you provide for us 'average joe's'. Mishit forgiveness and lower compression has helped me enjoy the game so much more. Plus saved me a whole bunch of cash not trying out every ball on the market! Love the channel- thanks. Is the background picture you use to display 'the numbers' happen to be n The Short Course at RTJ Grand National in Opelika Alabama?
Thank you very much for the kind words. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment as much as you do. Honestly I'm not sure. I get it from a free picture website. I absolutely love the picture though and I've just ran with it ever since
I have now used the Vice Pro Air's several rounds. I do think they go a little further than my Speed softs. I also like the fact that they have that urethane cover. Overall feel is off the charts awesome. I have decided to use them as my main ball now. Being a senior with 85 mph swing speed these are a great answer. What Vice has accomplished is amazing throughout their line. If you buy in quantity you really get an amazing deal. Thanks G.B.A. Joe
A few months late with this comment, but I wanted to chime in on the “deadness” on putts and the Bouncy ball effect. I had around 90mph SS and they went straight for me usually, but in mid summer with hard ground… these things bounced SO many times and ended up constantly bouncing out of bounds, which killed me. And then I also switched to a mallet putter this year and I couldn’t get any feedback. It was brutal. I probably should have paid more attention to your words in the video as you did call both of these things out 😂. Currently back to Vice Pro, and the firmness is MUCH better for me. And they aren’t bouncing out of bounds. Not sure if this comment was supposed to be feedback or what.. maybe a potential buyer will read this before they grab some lol.
I actually really appreciate this comment. The channel's been getting a lot more viewers lately, this means new people who haven't seen the channel before. And one of the comments I keep getting from them is how I just talk about too much information. I'm too detailed. No I'm not making that up. The reason I go into such detail is because golfers are pretty meticulous when it comes to their golf balls. We all like them to feel and react a certain way to different clubs and in the short game. There are golf balls that I have absolutely loved every aspect of, but just didn't like how they came off the putter a little bit. I won't use them if that's the case. Every detail matters. Thank you so much for taking the time to come and share your feedback
Having gamed this ball the last few rounds I’ve played I can safely say it has become my official gamer ball. I get good distance, feedback without being hard or clicky, good free side spin, and nice off the putter. It is hard to get away from the Supersoft, but this is definitely the ball for me. Added bonus I can still use a neon green ball, but it isn’t matte finish.
All great points. I honestly Love the entire vice lineup this year. I also love the air for shorter courses or distance isn't as important, but I really want some good spin and feel
Played this ball yesterday. For my slower speed driver worked great, as did everything else. I did notice on a toed 8 I got feedback, but somehow still pin high. Great ball new gamer
I just played my first round with the Vice Air Pro and overall I really like it. I usually use the Srixon Q-Star Tour and the Air definitely was longer overall, but it wasn't as nice around the green chipping and putting, at least for the first time. I'll give it a few more rounds before I decide if I want to switch or not, but impressed overall.
Nice. Thank you so much for taking the time to share the feedback with me. I've been using it on shorter courses where I need a little more feel opposed to distance. I liked it as well
I tested some Vice Pro Air's today on my round of golf. I ordered the neon pink ones. They went quite far off my various clubs. With the urethane cover they feel like they have an extra measure of control about them. Seemed very smooth off the putter and they did well for my chipping as well. I use a 5 wood instead of a driver most of the time. 3 guys let me play through and I teed off with the 5 wood using the Pro Air . Right down the fairway and a good distance. I over heard one of the 3 some say holy friggin crap lol. I have about an 85 mph swing speed being a senior and all. These Pro Air's seem to jump off of my clubs. Between the Vice Pro Air and Taylormade Speed Softs I am pretty happy.
That's awesome. Two great golf balls you've been playing. I think the air is an amazing sequel to The prosoft. I think it does everything a little better. I actually love the feel of it coming off the clubs even for a faster swinger
@@GolfBallAddict I was using a Spider Tour S putter. I really loved the feel of the Pro Air coming off of it. There is an extremely special feel to these as they come off the clubs. Its soft and seems pretty precise. Its hard to totally explain the feel of them but Vice said they really worked on it and I say they got it exactly right. Very unique feel to them. I agree with you that it does everything a little better than the Pro Softs. Vice definitely advanced the tech on these. I will definitely order these again. P.S. What is your first name?
I've actually heard that and seen it a couple times. I would love to try it out and see how it actually looks once the balls printed. It's a great idea I just wish they would advertise it more
Just checked the alignment tool and see what year model it is. The new ones are light years better. Of course to be fair if it is an air that would be the brand new one
It is an amazing deal, the only thing to keep in mind is that it's not the new version. They are selling the old version for that price. And in my eyes, with the data I have, the new version is light years better than the old version
I’ve literally just found this channel and been a long time Titleist player, currently on the Pro V1 but I have just got a deal in the UK for Tour Gold & Z-Stars! Once they go, I’ll need to search for a new ball but just turned 65 & high spin player! I was considering the Triad but this Pro Air looks better! Must have a look at the Tour! It would be great if you could look at the Seed range, if they are available in the US! Haven’t been through all your vids yet so don’t know if you HAVE tested them!
I was checking out their website and in the customization section you can add three different alignment tools. One is like the triple track, but only for a quarter of the ball. One looks like the Taylormade Distance plus, and the third is three arrowheads. It's costs a little more, but it could be worth it if this line is your gamer maybe.
For me the air launched, true to its name, quite high giving me some extra yards. For almost 3 euro's a piece in Europe this ball is far from cheap, but the greenish ones are amazing and can be found in roughs/woods a little easier, saving some money on lost balls. The feel on the green is great for me, even with a mallet.
I got a box of these and have played 2 rounds with them. I am an older golfer who has lost some distance and a lot of swing speed. This is supposed to be for slower swing speeds (I'm around 80 with the driver). I have never had a ball perform so well off the irons and hybrids! 5-7 yards longer than the Titleist AVX that I have been playing. Good feel off the putter. However, the driver was a disaster. Lost 10 - 15 yards on every drive compared to the AVX. What was worse was the dispersion was all over the place. With the AVX I not only hit the ball farther, but I also usually hit about 80% of the fairways. With the Pro Air I hit about 20%. It wasn't due to a bad driving day, but repeated every time I used it. To say I was shocked by the driver performance is an understatement. If I could get it to perform off the driver like the irons and hybrids it would be my exclusive ball. Sadly, these are not going in the bag.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your feedback. I'll be completely honest, this sounds like a fitting issue. The AVX is extremely firm, especially for that swing speed. If golf balls aren't hitting the fairway, it's more of a swing issue. The reason I also think it could be a driver fitting issue, is because the AVX is designed to launch low. Which with a slow swing speed would be even worse. What I'm almost wondering, is are you hitting the AVX what you are supposed to be hitting every other golf ball. It's actually more common than you think. The AVX could be launching higher than it should be, which would help your numbers whereas most other golf balls will then in turn launch too high. Just a suggestion. Honestly I have no idea without seeing data. Thank you so much for watching and sharing your feedback.
@@GolfBallAddict Thanks for your reply. As a matter of fact I am hitting the AVX very high. I got fit for a new driver at the first of the year - the Taylormade Qi10 Max - and at that time I was playing Pro V1's. I had previously played Titleist Tour Speed, but had switched when I found out that Titleist had discontinued them in favor of a new revamped AVX. I wanted to hit higher drives, but found the new driver with my swing was hitting them a little too high, so switched to the AVX. Have been pleased with the performance, but was looking to try other "value" urethane balls. Went out yesterday and played 9 holes and hit two drives on each - one AVX and one Pro Air. Same results - AVX reasonably long and straight. Pro Air all over the place. Sounds like I need a ball fitting in the near future. I give Vice high marks, but this one isn't working for me off that one club. Love your channel. Keep up the good work.
Actually contacted Vice and the Pro Air isnt yet in stores like WalMart or Target. Something about getting rid of the old Soft version first which the Air replaced. I had to order the dozen online direct from them. Luckily I had a coupon but still was $46
I've used the pro soft for a couple of years. I get as much distance if not more than the pro v. Have not tried the pro air yet. Wish they had not done away with the red.
Hey me again!! I have never tried any DTC balls, but was very curious on the Snell 3 and Vice Air. The issue is the Snell compression at 81. I can't find the Vice Air but the Soft which you say was replaced by this was 65. I currently play Srixon Q Star, so feel this may be a good comparison. Maybe you could do a Q Star Tour vs Vice Air comparison?
It's got a mild amount of workability. The soft feel add some forgiveness but takes away some workability. The pro and the Pro Plus are definitely more workable, but I love the feeling forgiveness the air offers. You can definitely still hit draws and fades but good luck hitting any bubba Watson hooks
I don't have a direct comparison but just off the top of my head and by looking at my data here in front of me, the air is definitely in the top three. Value and performance really give it an advantage. Personally the Chrome soft might be a little bit better but it's way more expensive. I don't know if it's worth paying almost double the price.
@@GolfBallAddict when i order from vice it does take about a week to get my order so its nice to know that in an emergency situation i can get a standard chrome soft if im desperate although not ideal. ill be putting my order in for 5 pro airs to avoid the situation
Hi Nick, great review! Based on your review of the Snell 3.0, it seems like these 2 balls are pretty comparable with the edge of short game spin to the pro air, and driver distance edge to the Snell 3.0. Any thoughts on which ball you think might have an overall edge between these two, as you describe both balls as ‘soft/er’, but realizing the compresion is higher with the 3.0. Thanks for your thoughts!
Great question. Honestly it's a really tough battle that probably goes the distance. I think the air ultimately wins out due to a short game spin and its durability. I just can't trust Snell's durability right now
I agree. I think another consideration is how much mishit forgiveness do you want. both balls perform well. I've played them both and I would say that the Pro Air is better for those seeking forgiveness and Prime 3.0 is for better ball strikers.
I been playing the Chrome Soft ball a lot lately and really like it but $50 a dozen is alot. How does this ball compare to the Chrome Soft? I used to play the Vice Pro a few years ago but I found that ball a little too firm for my liking.
I actually think it would be a great trade off. The air is very soft and squishy and reminds me a lot of the Chrome soft. I can't guarantee it would be better because I'm not sure of your swing speed but I think it's a good comparison
I've done the old snell balls. The new ones will be done as soon as I get through vice. The balls that have the most spin around the green for chipping and pitching tend to be the tp5, the Bridgestone xs, and honestly even the brand new vice Pro I just tested. I don't recommend the tp5 usually just because it's so unforgiving.
compare the Air to the Pro Plus. My swing speed etc. indicates the Air would be the ball i should be using. I have been using the Pro Plus with really good results. Would they be better with the Air?
Is the vice pro air just as forgiving as the Wilson Zip? I have noticed a big difference in how straight my drives are now since switching to the Zip. Since it’s discontinued trying to find a new ball to try. Thanks!
It's pretty close but not quite the same. Honestly at this point, I don't know if the zip is really discontinued at this moment. People are still able to get them in Walmart and all kinds of stores. And it's been 10 months into the year.
I've been playing the Pro Plus for 2 years. This ball may be better for me because my driver swing speed is 90MPH. I have a box coming and very curious.
@@GolfBallAddict Your numbers comparing the Plus and Air are really close. The only reason there is a driver difference is that your ball speed on the Plus is 7mpf faster. Could you have just been swinging better testing the Plus? If your swing speed was close on both balls and you got 7mph more ball speed from the Plus, it is a no brainer for me. I want the extra 15 yards. If club head speed is identical, can there be a difference in ball speed? Sorry for all the questions and I really like the Air but 15 yards is 15 yards since the spins on the irons and short game are close.
@@GolfBallAddict Absolutely. I am taking delivery of 3 dozen Vice Pro Air's tomorrow. I do love the Speed Softs but I used to use theVice Pro Softs and liked them so I have a feeling I will like the Pro Air's too. I ordered them in Neon Pink because I think they will show up well on the course. I will keep you posted. Thanks for all you do G.B.A. Joe
If you are a high handicapper, I would stick to a two piece model. You would probably over compress the air. I would honestly try the Vice drive or tour.
@@GolfBallAddictthank you! I tried the vice pro since I wanted to see what it would be like to play something similar to a ProV1 type ball and the Vice Pro is too spinny for me. I may give the tour a chance.
Nick, Love your channel but it is getting really confusing. First of all the Chrome tour did not replace the Chrome soft. There is still a new 2024 Chrome soft golf ball. You have to test it to see how it compares to the Chrome tour. You also can't really compare the current reviews to last years since you are using a new launch monitor. The Vice tour numbers were sick. I am a senior with a slow swing speed. Do you still think the tour or the soft would be a better ball for me?
Thank you for the comment. The Chrome tour as of this moment has not replaced the Chrome soft. However I have heard from the Callaway rep that the future plan is for the tour to ultimately replace it. I don't mind still testing the 24 version though As for the monitor switch. I tested multiple golf balls side by side with both monitors. The ball speed was within 99 percent accuracy on both. So some of the previous data is definitely still viable. The vice air will definitely work better for sure. It's allot more soft and forgiving
Honestly I've had a lot of trouble with those golf ball fitter tools I see online. Titleist has always given me trouble and it doesn't surprise me vice is iffy
I'll be retesting that one soon since they dropped a new model for 2024. But my experience with the old one was not as good. Hopefully the retest is better
@@GolfBallAddict yeah not saying it’s as good as the vice pro air. But at $19.99 per dozen. It will work for a lot of players. Just doesn’t work for their ego.
Love your channel. Big fan. Recommend your content to family and friends. I think I'm that one person that just doesn't jive with vice. I've tried them all. I hit one shot then goes back in the bag. They decorate my golf ball cases. Love the look and colors. Lol
Mike, I agree with your review! My SS is 92 mph Driver, and today was the first day I was able to trial the Air after testing the 2024 Pro Plus and finding it too firm for my liking with less forgiveness than what Nick’s data showed. I HAVE FOUND MY GOLFBALL. The seemingly never ending search has ended! Best way for me to describe the Pro Air is to imagine the current 87 compression ProV1 with a compression of 75 (That’s the compression of the Air). For those who want to feel soft and springy, with very good control, this is Nirvana. I’ll be backing up the truck when the next FreePrint offer is available.
That's awesome I'm glad you like it
Greetings Nick, I tried the Vice Pro Air after watching your review. Wow! What a ball! This fits my 88 - 90 mph driver swing speed. I experienced excellent distance and all the checkup I needed on the green. Also, just enough feedback to let me know how well I hit or mishit the ball. Vice balls seem to have better durability than the Snell balls. The Pro Air is now replacing the Snell Prime as my ball of choice.
That's awesome. I am so glad you liked it. 😁
I think I’m going to grab some too. I am right around 90mph. Seems like a good fit. Awesome review!
After watching your reviews and trying several balls, these are now my go to ball. Just ordered 6 dozen. Can't beat them (or the price.) They are straighter and longer off my driver, great in the wind and hold greens as good as the pro v1 for me.
So I played this ball today and it’s now in the bag! Also I use a 2024 phantom 5 putter which is blade like for a mallet and it felt great. Provided a click and didn’t feel dead. Just thought I would share that. Also I would describe this ball as like an ion off the tee box and a urethane around the green. Thanks for your reviews!
Thank you so much for sharing your feedback and your support. I'm glad you shared a similar experience
I have been using the Vice Pro for some time. In my humble opinion they are THE best ball on the market. I experimented with a few balls, (including the alleged best ball in golf), Snell,Kirkland,Inesis etc, and found the vice pro the most consistent. Cant wait to test their irons.
I want to try their iron so bad. I'm going to try to save up and see if I can test some of their wedges and stuff first.
Thanks for not being an AI robot like so many golf ball reviews. Great review!
Anytime friend. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment and watch. I really strive to make sure my reviews are 100% authentic. They always will be
I love that you take so much time to review each ball. I'm a loyal Vice player, and I've been interested in trying the Pro Air. Their site says it still works for higher swing speed players, but I just compress the Pro Soft (and the former Pro Zero) too much. Thanks for these reviews! Off to check out your review of the Tour Ball!
Thank you very much for the kind words and for watching. Just reviewed the Pro as well
Swing speed (on screen) would really help to contextualize the numbers. Thanks for these reviews.
I can do that
@@GolfBallAddict Thanks!
Agreed, knowing what a ball does at certain swing speeds combined with your actual data really helps in selecting the right golf ball. 👌🏾
I like your reviews. I've tried many, many golf balls. I like the Vice Pro Air more than almost anything.
Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. The vice air is an amazing golf ball and has a premium soft feel. Very few golf balls feel like that on the market
Hi, Nick. Thanks as always for another thoughtful, thorough review. This is a ball I really like and it looks like Vice is doing a tremendous job with its updates!
One note: I don't think I saw a mention of forgiveness on this review or the review of the new Drive ball. I know you've said your swing is improving (congrats on that!), but I hope you'll continue to give feedback on forgiveness, as you have in the past. Forgiveness is a major factor in my search for golf balls I like and your channel has been incredibly helpful for that. Your assessment of forgiveness helped me discover the Cut Red, Wilson Zip, regular Q-Star and the ERC. And in the past, you've also helped me steer clear of a few balls like the TruFeel since my swing is still kind of a mess and your review spoke about the TruFeel being a punisher on mis-hits.
I really like the older Vice Pro Soft and Drive models, and I'm glad those balls are improving, but I'd also like to know how the new balls compare to the older models for forgiveness.
Thanks again for all you do!
Thank you very much for the kind words and the comment. Forgiveness has been touched on in the new video
Nick, what a service you provide for us 'average joe's'. Mishit forgiveness and lower compression has helped me enjoy the game so much more. Plus saved me a whole bunch of cash not trying out every ball on the market! Love the channel- thanks.
Is the background picture you use to display 'the numbers' happen to be n The Short Course at RTJ Grand National in Opelika Alabama?
Thank you very much for the kind words. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment as much as you do.
Honestly I'm not sure. I get it from a free picture website. I absolutely love the picture though and I've just ran with it ever since
I ordered the new Neon Drip today. Saved $4 with the “GBA” discount code. Thanks Nick! 😎
Thank you so much. I appreciate you doing that. It really helps out a lot. I love that new drip design as well. It's sick
I have now used the Vice Pro Air's several rounds. I do think they go a little further than my Speed softs. I also like the fact that they have that urethane cover. Overall feel is off the charts awesome. I have decided to use them as my main ball now. Being a senior with 85 mph swing speed these are a great answer. What Vice has accomplished is amazing throughout their line. If you buy in quantity you really get an amazing deal. Thanks G.B.A. Joe
Anytime! I'm so glad you have enjoyed them as much as you have. 😀
@@GolfBallAddict To be honest I am really shocked they are this good. What a golf ball !!!!
A few months late with this comment, but I wanted to chime in on the “deadness” on putts and the Bouncy ball effect. I had around 90mph SS and they went straight for me usually, but in mid summer with hard ground… these things bounced SO many times and ended up constantly bouncing out of bounds, which killed me. And then I also switched to a mallet putter this year and I couldn’t get any feedback. It was brutal.
I probably should have paid more attention to your words in the video as you did call both of these things out 😂.
Currently back to Vice Pro, and the firmness is MUCH better for me. And they aren’t bouncing out of bounds.
Not sure if this comment was supposed to be feedback or what.. maybe a potential buyer will read this before they grab some lol.
I actually really appreciate this comment.
The channel's been getting a lot more viewers lately, this means new people who haven't seen the channel before. And one of the comments I keep getting from them is how I just talk about too much information. I'm too detailed. No I'm not making that up.
The reason I go into such detail is because golfers are pretty meticulous when it comes to their golf balls. We all like them to feel and react a certain way to different clubs and in the short game.
There are golf balls that I have absolutely loved every aspect of, but just didn't like how they came off the putter a little bit. I won't use them if that's the case. Every detail matters.
Thank you so much for taking the time to come and share your feedback
Having gamed this ball the last few rounds I’ve played I can safely say it has become my official gamer ball. I get good distance, feedback without being hard or clicky, good free side spin, and nice off the putter. It is hard to get away from the Supersoft, but this is definitely the ball for me. Added bonus I can still use a neon green ball, but it isn’t matte finish.
All great points. I honestly Love the entire vice lineup this year. I also love the air for shorter courses or distance isn't as important, but I really want some good spin and feel
Played this ball yesterday. For my slower speed driver worked great, as did everything else. I did notice on a toed 8 I got feedback, but somehow still pin high. Great ball new gamer
That's great. Glad you enjoyed it. May the birdies be with you
@@GolfBallAddict well missed a couple 6 and 10 foot birdie putts and shot 85. Not good
I just played my first round with the Vice Air Pro and overall I really like it. I usually use the Srixon Q-Star Tour and the Air definitely was longer overall, but it wasn't as nice around the green chipping and putting, at least for the first time. I'll give it a few more rounds before I decide if I want to switch or not, but impressed overall.
Nice. Thank you so much for taking the time to share the feedback with me. I've been using it on shorter courses where I need a little more feel opposed to distance. I liked it as well
I tested some Vice Pro Air's today on my round of golf. I ordered the neon pink ones. They went quite far off my various clubs. With the urethane cover they feel like they have an extra measure of control about them. Seemed very smooth off the putter and they did well for my chipping as well. I use a 5 wood instead of a driver most of the time. 3 guys let me play through and I teed off with the 5 wood using the Pro Air . Right down the fairway and a good distance. I over heard one of the 3 some say holy friggin crap lol. I have about an 85 mph swing speed being a senior and all. These Pro Air's seem to jump off of my clubs. Between the Vice Pro Air and Taylormade Speed Softs I am pretty happy.
That's awesome. Two great golf balls you've been playing. I think the air is an amazing sequel to The prosoft. I think it does everything a little better. I actually love the feel of it coming off the clubs even for a faster swinger
@@GolfBallAddict I was using a Spider Tour S putter. I really loved the feel of the Pro Air coming off of it. There is an extremely special feel to these as they come off the clubs. Its soft and seems pretty precise. Its hard to totally explain the feel of them but Vice said they really worked on it and I say they got it exactly right. Very unique feel to them. I agree with you that it does everything a little better than the Pro Softs. Vice definitely advanced the tech on these. I will definitely order these again. P.S. What is your first name?
Been using the Air model since it came out, great ball. Just a note, you can choose your alignment marker on their product pages.
I've actually heard that and seen it a couple times. I would love to try it out and see how it actually looks once the balls printed. It's a great idea I just wish they would advertise it more
Can't wait to find these new vice balls at Walmart. Great video as always.
Please let me know how you end up liking them! 😀
This is going to be my gamer. I already use the vice pro soft. 🙌
It's an amazing upgrade
Looks like you found your new gamer ball! I'm pretty sure I have but will wait for the new Snell reviews :)
That's honestly what I'm really interested in. Seeing the snell reviews on how they directly compare to these vice lines.
Found one in the drink the other day, maybe I’ll play it this weekend
Just checked the alignment tool and see what year model it is. The new ones are light years better. Of course to be fair if it is an air that would be the brand new one
Sams had the Vice pros for $29.91 for 24 balls for most of July. They are back to $49.98 for 24. Best bargin around if you catch them below $30.
It is an amazing deal, the only thing to keep in mind is that it's not the new version. They are selling the old version for that price.
And in my eyes, with the data I have, the new version is light years better than the old version
Whole new Vice line is now available on Amazon and the Tour is priced at $28/box.
That's awesome
I’ve literally just found this channel and been a long time Titleist player, currently on the Pro V1 but I have just got a deal in the UK for Tour Gold & Z-Stars! Once they go, I’ll need to search for a new ball but just turned 65 & high spin player! I was considering the Triad but this Pro Air looks better! Must have a look at the Tour! It would be great if you could look at the Seed range, if they are available in the US! Haven’t been through all your vids yet so don’t know if you HAVE tested them!
I’m waiting hard for the next installment in the vice series!!!
It just came out my friend. Give it a watch and tell me what you think 😃
I was checking out their website and in the customization section you can add three different alignment tools. One is like the triple track, but only for a quarter of the ball. One looks like the Taylormade Distance plus, and the third is three arrowheads. It's costs a little more, but it could be worth it if this line is your gamer maybe.
Well if that's the case I'll have to eat crow.
Not really though since you have to pay extra for it. You're still on point for value!
For me the air launched, true to its name, quite high giving me some extra yards. For almost 3 euro's a piece in Europe this ball is far from cheap, but the greenish ones are amazing and can be found in roughs/woods a little easier, saving some money on lost balls. The feel on the green is great for me, even with a mallet.
My driver swings at 100 mph btw, the compression didn't bother me
Thanks so much for sharing your experience. The feel is what will draw a few people to this ball. Reaaaaly soft off the club.
I got a box of these and have played 2 rounds with them. I am an older golfer who has lost some distance and a lot of swing speed. This is supposed to be for slower swing speeds (I'm around 80 with the driver). I have never had a ball perform so well off the irons and hybrids! 5-7 yards longer than the Titleist AVX that I have been playing. Good feel off the putter. However, the driver was a disaster. Lost 10 - 15 yards on every drive compared to the AVX. What was worse was the dispersion was all over the place. With the AVX I not only hit the ball farther, but I also usually hit about 80% of the fairways. With the Pro Air I hit about 20%. It wasn't due to a bad driving day, but repeated every time I used it. To say I was shocked by the driver performance is an understatement. If I could get it to perform off the driver like the irons and hybrids it would be my exclusive ball. Sadly, these are not going in the bag.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your feedback.
I'll be completely honest, this sounds like a fitting issue. The AVX is extremely firm, especially for that swing speed. If golf balls aren't hitting the fairway, it's more of a swing issue.
The reason I also think it could be a driver fitting issue, is because the AVX is designed to launch low. Which with a slow swing speed would be even worse. What I'm almost wondering, is are you hitting the AVX what you are supposed to be hitting every other golf ball. It's actually more common than you think. The AVX could be launching higher than it should be, which would help your numbers whereas most other golf balls will then in turn launch too high.
Just a suggestion. Honestly I have no idea without seeing data. Thank you so much for watching and sharing your feedback.
@@GolfBallAddict Thanks for your reply. As a matter of fact I am hitting the AVX very high. I got fit for a new driver at the first of the year - the Taylormade Qi10 Max - and at that time I was playing Pro V1's. I had previously played Titleist Tour Speed, but had switched when I found out that Titleist had discontinued them in favor of a new revamped AVX. I wanted to hit higher drives, but found the new driver with my swing was hitting them a little too high, so switched to the AVX. Have been pleased with the performance, but was looking to try other "value" urethane balls. Went out yesterday and played 9 holes and hit two drives on each - one AVX and one Pro Air. Same results - AVX reasonably long and straight. Pro Air all over the place. Sounds like I need a ball fitting in the near future. I give Vice high marks, but this one isn't working for me off that one club. Love your channel. Keep up the good work.
Suggestion: forgiveness rating, 1-5? Good ball! Thanks
That's a great point. Thanks. 😀👍
@@GolfBallAddict it just came to me out of the blue!
Actually contacted Vice and the Pro Air isnt yet in stores like WalMart or Target. Something about getting rid of the old Soft version first which the Air replaced. I had to order the dozen online direct from them. Luckily I had a coupon but still was $46
Dang that seems really expensive. Are you overseas or something?
@@GolfBallAddict no Tampa. That’s with shipping
Jeez. Well if you like them then at least next time you can get the bulk discount. Hopefully they come to retail soon.
So, I bought a dozen of these, put them on my ball spinner they all came up on the direction mark! I was surprised! Thanks
I apologize for the question but I am a little ignorant on this. Is that a good thing? Does it mean the balance of all them is good?
@@GolfBallAddict That’s a good thing! Either they balance them at the factory or their production quality is super!
Just checked and they finally have the Vice Pro Air on Amazon $39.99
Nice. Hopefully they will come into box retail soon
I've used the pro soft for a couple of years. I get as much distance if not more than the pro v. Have not tried the pro air yet. Wish they had not done away with the red.
I've heard that from a couple people. I'll put in a good word and hopefully they'll bring it back 😀
Hey me again!! I have never tried any DTC balls, but was very curious on the Snell 3 and Vice Air. The issue is the Snell compression at 81. I can't find the Vice Air but the Soft which you say was replaced by this was 65. I currently play Srixon Q Star, so feel this may be a good comparison. Maybe you could do a Q Star Tour vs Vice Air comparison?
Sounds like a good idea. Wouldn't mind that at all
Its like the AVX👍
Will give this a try and compare to Precept extreme. Cool hat- what's the brand? thnks
Awesome. Thank you so much. I'm not sure about the brand, all I know is it's a valspar championship hat I got at the tournament
Are you able to work this ball? I like to play a fade off the tee and seeing if you have any experience with that. Appreciate what you’re doing!
It's got a mild amount of workability. The soft feel add some forgiveness but takes away some workability.
The pro and the Pro Plus are definitely more workable, but I love the feeling forgiveness the air offers. You can definitely still hit draws and fades but good luck hitting any bubba Watson hooks
anywhere i can find a comparison of yours between the new vice pro air compared to the other major brand softs?
I don't have a direct comparison but just off the top of my head and by looking at my data here in front of me, the air is definitely in the top three. Value and performance really give it an advantage. Personally the Chrome soft might be a little bit better but it's way more expensive. I don't know if it's worth paying almost double the price.
@@GolfBallAddict when i order from vice it does take about a week to get my order so its nice to know that in an emergency situation i can get a standard chrome soft if im desperate although not ideal. ill be putting my order in for 5 pro airs to avoid the situation
Hi Nick, great review! Based on your review of the Snell 3.0, it seems like these 2 balls are pretty comparable with the edge of short game spin to the pro air, and driver distance edge to the Snell 3.0. Any thoughts on which ball you think might have an overall edge between these two, as you describe both balls as ‘soft/er’, but realizing the compresion is higher with the 3.0. Thanks for your thoughts!
Great question. Honestly it's a really tough battle that probably goes the distance. I think the air ultimately wins out due to a short game spin and its durability. I just can't trust Snell's durability right now
I agree. I think another consideration is how much mishit forgiveness do you want. both balls perform well. I've played them both and I would say that the Pro Air is better for those seeking forgiveness and Prime 3.0 is for better ball strikers.
I been playing the Chrome Soft ball a lot lately and really like it but $50 a dozen is alot. How does this ball compare to the Chrome Soft? I used to play the Vice Pro a few years ago but I found that ball a little too firm for my liking.
I actually think it would be a great trade off. The air is very soft and squishy and reminds me a lot of the Chrome soft. I can't guarantee it would be better because I'm not sure of your swing speed but I think it's a good comparison
@@GolfBallAddict my swing speed is around 90-95mph
Can you check the if the paint rubs off on the lime colored golf ball?
I can try. I know this has been a problem in the past
@@GolfBallAddict Thanks, keep up the good work!
Sounds like a good ball. Have you done a review on the new snell balls? Also in your opinion what is the best spiniest ball for the short game?
I've done the old snell balls. The new ones will be done as soon as I get through vice.
The balls that have the most spin around the green for chipping and pitching tend to be the tp5, the Bridgestone xs, and honestly even the brand new vice Pro I just tested. I don't recommend the tp5 usually just because it's so unforgiving.
Can you do the Q Star Tour with the new equipment to see how this stacks up to it?
Absolutely.
compare the Air to the Pro Plus. My swing speed etc. indicates the Air would be the ball i should be using. I have been using the Pro Plus with really good results. Would they be better with the Air?
Is the vice pro air just as forgiving as the Wilson Zip? I have noticed a big difference in how straight my drives are now since switching to the Zip. Since it’s discontinued trying to find a new ball to try. Thanks!
It's pretty close but not quite the same. Honestly at this point, I don't know if the zip is really discontinued at this moment. People are still able to get them in Walmart and all kinds of stores. And it's been 10 months into the year.
I've been playing the Pro Plus for 2 years. This ball may be better for me because my driver swing speed is 90MPH. I have a box coming and very curious.
The air or the pro will most likely be better optimized for your swing speed. Either should work great. It's your call with the feel though.
@@GolfBallAddict Your numbers comparing the Plus and Air are really close. The only reason there is a driver difference is that your ball speed on the Plus is 7mpf faster. Could you have just been swinging better testing the Plus? If your swing speed was close on both balls and you got 7mph more ball speed from the Plus, it is a no brainer for me. I want the extra 15 yards. If club head speed is identical, can there be a difference in ball speed? Sorry for all the questions and I really like the Air but 15 yards is 15 yards since the spins on the irons and short game are close.
Sorry if you said it in the video, but do you know the compression on this?
Should be around 95
@@GolfBallAddict 95? Did you mean 75? 95 would be in the range of alot of X balls out there.
Yes, it’s 75 compression
I think I’m gonna switch and try these over the q star tours I’ve been playing
Definitely worth a shot. One of my favorite golf balls of 2024
Hey for us guys watching on TV, could you extend the end of your videos a bit so I can like them before it cuts away 😂
Lol yes my bad.
I am going to try some of these and see how I like them vs the speed softs .
Please do. Please let me know any feedback you experience or how they go
@@GolfBallAddict Absolutely. I am taking delivery of 3 dozen Vice Pro Air's tomorrow. I do love the Speed Softs but I used to use theVice Pro Softs and liked them so I have a feeling I will like the Pro Air's too. I ordered them in Neon Pink because I think they will show up well on the course. I will keep you posted. Thanks for all you do G.B.A. Joe
Curious how it compares to last year's pro soft.
That would be a great comparison
@@GolfBallAddict If only you and I knew someone who did golf ball reviews.... :)
Will this work for a swing speed above 105mph that’s a high handicapper?
If you are a high handicapper, I would stick to a two piece model. You would probably over compress the air. I would honestly try the Vice drive or tour.
@@GolfBallAddictthank you! I tried the vice pro since I wanted to see what it would be like to play something similar to a ProV1 type ball and the Vice Pro is too spinny for me. I may give the tour a chance.
Does Walmart carry the Pro Air or are they just available online currently
I don't believe Walmart has the new models yet
Nick,
Love your channel but it is getting really confusing. First of all the Chrome tour did not replace the Chrome soft. There is still a new 2024 Chrome soft golf ball. You have to test it to see how it compares to the Chrome tour.
You also can't really compare the current reviews to last years since you are using a new launch monitor. The Vice tour numbers were sick. I am a senior with a slow swing speed. Do you still think the tour or the soft would be a better ball for me?
Thank you for the comment. The Chrome tour as of this moment has not replaced the Chrome soft. However I have heard from the Callaway rep that the future plan is for the tour to ultimately replace it. I don't mind still testing the 24 version though
As for the monitor switch. I tested multiple golf balls side by side with both monitors. The ball speed was within 99 percent accuracy on both. So some of the previous data is definitely still viable.
The vice air will definitely work better for sure. It's allot more soft and forgiving
Nick,
Thanks for the followup. Are you going to review the three new snell.balls?
what makes no sense, it says its for slower swing speed...but then the optimizer on their website recommends it for higher speeds??
Honestly I've had a lot of trouble with those golf ball fitter tools I see online. Titleist has always given me trouble and it doesn't surprise me vice is iffy
All y’all like a soft ball that spins, easy to putt. Cheap. Low compression, easy for lower swing speeds.
Wilson fifty elite.
I'll be retesting that one soon since they dropped a new model for 2024. But my experience with the old one was not as good. Hopefully the retest is better
@@GolfBallAddict yeah not saying it’s as good as the vice pro air.
But at $19.99 per dozen. It will work for a lot of players. Just doesn’t work for their ego.
Maxfli tour s or vice pro plus or vice pro air
Great question. Right now I would rate them:
Pro Plus
Pro air
S
All top tier golf balls
Again,Vice live up to their word and improve an already great golf ball.
Men of their word!
I believe Costco now sells these balls !
Any idea what the price is?
Vice sucks
I respect your opinion, but the data, performance, price, designs, and reviews disagree
Love your channel. Big fan. Recommend your content to family and friends. I think I'm that one person that just doesn't jive with vice. I've tried them all. I hit one shot then goes back in the bag. They decorate my golf ball cases. Love the look and colors. Lol
I love playing the vice pro!!