@BellularNews I believe that you love Path of Exipe 2, but I worry a bit at sponsorship deals like this, if you for example have to report negatively on some development in the future regarding PoE or the developers of it. It can just create murkiness when there shouldn't be. I love your work still. This comment comes from a good place. Stay awesome
I was hoping you would talk about it. The decision to scrap it as a Warbond and instead sell it off at a MUCH higher price as 2 Super Store pages seems like a step in the wrong direction, but also a decision that most likely came from Sony, not AH.
It is so fucking ironic they do this right as you release this video. Sony really is trying to beat out EA and Activision Blizzard as the premier villains of the gaming industry.
Fun fact: When the first planet was invaded the invasion level was 96.. we were totally supposed to lose judging by the level, but so many people came back to the game that we actually LIBERATED it. It was incredibly fun to test weapons agaisnt them and try to figure what works and what doesnt. The first day people were getting absolutely curbstomped by the Illuminates to the point that most matches were focused on main objetives and rush to extraction. AND without mentioning that these Illuminate forces are just the "scouts" so to speak(like said in the video), we didnt meet their full invasion force. Alot of their most powerful units didnt even appear yet
I would correct. The meta-system is solely based on Ratio, Like how much of the active players are on that planet. So player count itself wasn't what pushed it over the edge, but everyone being willing to ignore bots and bugs in favor of trying out the squids.
Hd2 Release super hype -> lots of nerf patches, railgun nerfed, game sucks -> hmg buff patch, super hype -> more nerfs, game sucks -> eof release super hype -> it actually sucks, game sucks -> 63 day patch, super hype -> 2 months of no updates and no communication, game sucks -> illuminate drop, mad hype THE CYCLE CONTINUES
Helldivers has already experienced two events that would sink a normal game and it still keeps on ticking. They need to add difficulty through content and not through balancing, and the Illuminate have done an excellent job of that here. If they want to have more success then they need to continue to test and create events in an evolving fashion as they appear to be doing right now. It seems they have learned their lessons now they must continue to create excellent events that shape the galactic war and drive narrative, like Meridia.
a friend of mine is obsessed with helldivers. I was watching the game awards and when i told him over a call "there is the illuminate and looks like vehicles as well" he about lost his mind. then he really went crazy when i told him it said out now.
Playing on the Illuminate planets is like playing a multiplayer third person XCOM, except without Dr. Vahlen telling you not to use explosives and instead using a 380mm Orbital Barrage and a 120mm Orbital Barrage on the same location.
To be fair, the stun baton in the store was probably to give a cheaper option to players who didnt want to spend 1000 SC to get the new warbond which the only other melee weapon is locked behind.
One would think he would mention that was the actual reason for the incredibly bad ratings. But instead he praised how they "did so good" communicating with their base 🤡🌍
@@gensofury Not really. The game was buggy af still, had garbage weapon balance and no real new missions or maps. Most casual players dont consume gaming news.
Sadly...no. If one looks at the player-trend and compares it with other peers in the co-op genre :the number went down, because the genre just doesn't have a high-sustaining number. Stuff like Sony's meddling and the balancing batches that were according to many "killing the game", can not be pinpointed. Co-Op games by their nature are more casual than competitive multiplayer and will often taper out to a sustained population between 15k to 45k. For people just eventually have had their fill and take a break from it. On that HD2's swinging inbetween ~30k as a floor and spiking to ~60k after a patch was honestly very healthy.
About the "FOMO" for the stun-baton, it should be pointed out that items in the store rotate. In other words if you don't get it now (maybe because you don't have enough Super Credits) you can just buy it the next time it's back with credits you've earned in-game of you don't want to spend the cash.
Now we really just need damned Kusony to unlock the currently locked regions.. And there would be sooo many more people who would get the game and get us so many more players..
Harsh reality is that you might get a few hundred....max. Majority of the nations locked out do not have the Infrastructure or Economy to enable a luxury like Videogames. With vast majority of the world's population of gamers being concentrated within the 1st world, with Helldivers player-base being like 95% North-americans and West-Europeans. Though many cry foul at the sudden lockout. If you look at the graphs you genuinely cannot spot the shenanigans having done anything.... Don't get me wrong. What Sony did was an inexcusable thing to do suddenly out of nowhere with no regard of consumer-base. But lets not delude ourselves in thinking like there are tens of thousands of players that will suddenly rush in if the lock was lifted.
Arrowhead's decisions to not take the knee-jerk reactions that so many others would and have done are what I think are the best moves for the game and the studio. Their humility as well to go "We've screwed up. We might screw up again. But we're going to keep putting out what we think are the best things for you, the player."... that's refreshing. And their slow work toward what seems to be long-term goals feels far more sustainable than almost any other company might have done.
I had about 8 000 SC just from playing so I buy the Warbonds without having to spend real money,and after buying all the Killzone colab items, I still have over 5 000 SC.
Did they fix their community management problems? Did they reverse the country restrictions? Did they properly apologize for the Sony account situation, or at least the cape based off the negative reviews they teased?
They were the ones who decided to lift the account restriction knowing it had to come back eventually. They stole money from a lot of people and never addressed it, we're happy to let Sony be the scapegoat for something that they've been requiring forever.
Nope lel, The cows got angry because they squeezed a bit too hard last time. So now that the cows are happy again its time for another squeeze. And would you look at that another greedy 'mistake' has just happened. Nothing will ever change with how spineless the gaming community is as a whole.
The cape is reserved for when Sony gets their fingers out of their arses and lets other countries buy the game again. Cape's been ready for months, but releasing it would be in very poor taste while Sony has all those countries by the balls.
@@LethalOwl sony never planned to release in those countries. Arrowhead was the one who didnt play by their deal and now were supposed to pretend their the victims in this. Sony required psn from the start arrowhead didnt implement it and decided to sell to countries they shouldnt. Sony came to enforce the terms of their deal fair and square and now apparently they are satan for being proper businessmen that follow contracts.
@@kenethernandez6246 i think people are more concerned about how this monetization might affect future content releases, i.e. gutting warbonds and instead putting weapons in the store (with these higher prices)
@Bobbysan Those are fair points to make and I want people to speak out so it doesn't happen. I simply think that the reaction is bit extreme from some people acting like the game is ruined over optional content. I think it's fair to tell the devs the price was too high and to not include weapons in the super store. Some people are doing a bit too much is my only problem.
And the biggest step they took was the CEO stepping down to take the creative director role to directly pull back the power-ripping, player-adversarial lead balance designer who seems to hate people enjoying the games he works on.
I’ll say this. 200 credits for a baton isn’t bad at all. I would much rather pay once for something rather than pay monthly for a ton of things I may or may not get, much less even get around to using. The unspoken and important part is that it is possible to get that many credits in two matches, unlikely but possible. So, if you really want that item, just play for a bit and you’ll get it. You can do it in less than a full gaming session.
Part of me wants to be glad it is doing well, but until 177 nations worth of people are allowed to buy and play it again without risk of their accounts being banned for TOS violations it wont get another second out of me. It took them over half a year to stop being toxic to their own community, and even then the devs act like pissant children in interviews while the CEO is doing his damnest to earn the communities trust back after their community leads and pr team actively killed their own game
Aaand then they added weapons to the superstore... Democracy damn you Arrowhead. I love you for being so near perfect, and hate you for missing the mark when it's so very close.
You should try the first game, where half the stratagems and weapons were hidden behind DLC (with no way to unlock through gameplay). This is mild compared to the past.
Lets be honest here sony will never allow those countries back. At this point its basically their punishment to helldiver devs for renaging on the deal. They lost their psn users so helldivers loses 100+ countries of possible players its tit for tat.
@@Sinaeb neither arrowhead nor sony ever wanted to sell to those countries in the first place. Arrowhead signed a deal requiring psn account then screwed sony over by not implementing it and selling to countries they shouldnt. Not to mention judging from the comment section around videos mentioning the region lock a non insignificant part of the community are glad the poors arent ruining their online experience. The amount of comments saying to get a vpn or fk off is disgusting tbh.
Yeah, I would check the community again, the crossover store bullshit has just nuked all that good work, I would expect the numbers to drop off again quickly and the reviews to get bombed again. This one smells seriously of Sony interference. Its the equivalent of a 4 times price increase on a war-bond, Pay to Win mechanics and as has been mentioned they have halved the amount of super credits you can find in game. This feels like a really bad direction and I think they are going to get slammed for it
The system of hard counters arrowhead initially envisioned might have been ideal on paper, but having experienced the actual implementation it became miserable because their optimization clearly slanted in specific styles gameplay. If everyone needed to bring specific weapons just to handle one or two chargers, then that’s what the game becomes about.
"The most painful lessons are the ones that stick" Whelp, Sony has PLENTY of Goo Gone. I can only hope that Arrowhead won't suffer from their horrid mistake much longer.
Oh but the squeeze has begun. 1975 SC for one armor set, one weapon, and some cosmetics from what should have been a warbond is ridiculous. The Concord Tax has begun and it will get worse before it gets better.
10:22 You aint even lying my friends and I usually play on impossible and occasionally helldive playing against the illuminates we had to drop the difficulty to extreme and the first mission we played we couldnt even do half of the objectives.
The Arrowhead cycle reset in the time it took you to make and ship this video. Obvious failure > backlash > single step in right direction > forgiveness > start over. They're already trying to charge more than 600 credits for a single weapon in their store. They're not going to change. This studio went from my favorite to my black list in under a year by doing the same thing again and again. The longer consumers are gullible, the lower they'll go.
But at the same time, how much of these negative events were because of Arrowhead themselves. The only one we can confidently blame on them is the poor balancing the game experienced for a while. But the PSN, and the overpriced items weren’t (likely) due to them, but Sony. People suspect the item prices weren’t their fault because in the files, it shows a Killzone war bond. Which means that initially it was supposed to be a collab war bond. Which also means this change is likely due to Sony’s interference. The studio themself has only shown constant growth (with the CEO willing to step down to be more involved with the dev etc.), and adding and changing things the community wanted
Okay, I'm gonna say my 2 cents here. The Killzone Collab is not as big of a deal you might think it is, mainly, because of one key factor I see, that being that the Killzone armor and weapon. Now, Super Credits can be farmed, it's a very slow farm, but if you wanna build up some Super Credits, it's an option. But given the free content the game has cranked out, I am more than willing to help. Now, I am not concerned about it one bit so long as one thing stays true. The Killzone armor and such are just _in Superstore Rotation._ Basically meaning, that this isn't their only time in the shop, so if say, your not quite willing to shell out the cash right away, you can pick it up later. Also, the devs are looking into reworking the SuperStore, and relooking at how how their microtranasctions are working. Frankly, I think they just honestly fumbled this one.
Agreed it's not as bad as the community reaction makes it seem. Game isn't ruined or anything over optional content. They just need to get their prices right and not put weapons in the super store.
@@memes_the_dna_of_the_soul5487 It still sets an unease in me. Back when the game started they basically stated only cosmetics would be in the superstore. But here we are where they first put the stun button melee weapon, and now plan to have 3 primaries for the collab be set in the store. Oh and let’s not forget stratagems being in the warbonds too. Yeah sure we can farm SC but at the rate you can get farming and for all these warbonds and store things combined? It definitely seems not worth the time to get so much for a newer player.
As long as they don't make the game avialable where they removed it I keep my negative review. And sony is on my blacklist. Honestly with how expensive games are. Beeing more hostile towards big game devs who do things you don't agree with can help save money or put it more effectively in other games that interest you.
Helldivers 2 can be a lot of fun at times, but it is a super buggy mess. And that's putting it lightly. I can't land with the jump pack without it causing my Helldiver to go tumbling over due to impact with the air. The extreme ragdolling has caused my Helldiver to fuse with the ground upon impact on several occasions, resulting in me temporarily navigating mission maps while stuck in the prone position (back against the ground). I've had my Helldiver get stuck in a perpetual falling animation due to getting trapped in the most stupidest places-like a tiny divet between a tree and a boulder, or an extremely thin gap between a rockface and barricade. I've even had my Helldiver go flying off the ship to his death during a successful exfiltration. And don't get me started on the horrible hit reg! I've shot so many enemies point blank and watched as the projectiles phase right through them, with absolutely zero effect. This is all happening on the latest patch of Helldivers 2. This game has been out for too long to have so many persistent bugs and glitches.
And no PSN access countries still won't have the ability to buy it and those who did will eventually lose access to it, unfortunately for arrowhead Sony still has them in their grasp and has managed to manipulate its existing community to be satisfied about not pushing for PSN linking FOR NOW They never said never, hopefully they don't but its sony
ive only gotten 10 super credits per pick up for like months now, that was nerfed back in the early daays because frankly, it was really easy to get to 1000
Loving PoE2, but hate to break it to you, the slow deliberate gameplay with the souls-like bosses.... that's just untill you break the barrier a bit. And you'll be twinking every subsequent alt to break that even sooner. After that happens, all the carefull work the devs put into the bossess, doesn't matter anymore because you'll be running and killing in a flash again, just like in every other ARPG. I loved the first 20 hours though. It just doesn't make it through. Also, with the mapping, that would become tedious. And they know this, because you loose your map after 1 attempt. Where I would die to bosses for an hour to just to beat them. It was great! But that's just a little bit of the game.
Game is still packaged with a rootkit for PC users, can we stop heaping blind praise on a team that ignores a clear cut problem with their product just because the game says "lol democwacy xD"? I could almost swear this channel has turned into Helldiver News.
At no point the incoming faction was a mystery. It was known since launch that it was gonna happen at some point later in the development. The genius is more the fact they are using this kind of event to keep playerbase opinion positive while milking them with new microtransactions with every single new update.... The game is already 60 bucks, so yeah it's a bit scummy to add more than 10$ of microtransaction with every new update (and not just for cosmectics, it's actually a price wall locking new gameplay elements like stratagems). Arrowhead is just going downhill in term of business practice and joining all other bullshit live service games.... Which is definitely disappointing.
I disagree with the idea that player counts are representative of the quality of the game, and is in fact detrimental to the health of the game if taken seriously by any developer. This is a PvE game with lots of repetitive gameplay supported by a smaller dev team who can barely put out a small content patch every month. This is the kind of game that most people will play for a bit, leave, and then come back when there is something new. This is not the kind of game that uses tricks like FOMO events or excessive progression mechanics that are designed purely to boost player numbers so the publisher has a good metric to share with their stock holders. Those kinds of games have lots of players who have more hours in the game, but less hours actually having FUN in said game. This is basically like saying game X is a better game than game Y because game X takes 50 hours to complete while game Y only takes 6 hours. The playtime (or player count) has no bearing on the quality of the game, and making changes with the desire to boost this arbitrary metric can actively make the game worse.
I'm surprised the backlash against the devs giga-nerfs didn't kill the game. Wasn't there a lot of doomposting around that time? and why does it feel like the game is being marketed as if it's only releasing just now? lol
It did for me. Couldn't take them killing every fun weapon in the game. Balance in pve is a meme. Two months was all I could give to a game that has nothing other than extraction mode.
Because they did a massive balance rework over a 2 month period. And the reason it’s getting remarketed is from the pattern, every MAJOR update adds a sub title, signifying that it’s a big update. And yeah, the illuminates are huge freakin deal
The nerfs took me from steamrolling the game to there being some actual challenge on higher difficulties. People who were complaining about nerfs just needed to turn down the difficulty to something matching their skill level.
Personal sentiment was remembering the devs insulting us for not liking the way they wanted us to play, calling us names on discord when we point out that the constant nerfs are bad, the rebalance of enemies was bad and the game was getting less fun with every update. Im done with helldivers, i refuse to believe they made a new faction anything less than not fun to play against, like spamming bot drops while getting kicked for not following the current meta
I do not trust you on this topic. And others shouldn’t either. And that makes me really sad, because I like your content. I am playing the crap out of the game, but my friends and I all refused to spend more money until Sony allows the game to be sold in this 177 countries again.
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@BellularNews I believe that you love Path of Exipe 2, but I worry a bit at sponsorship deals like this, if you for example have to report negatively on some development in the future regarding PoE or the developers of it. It can just create murkiness when there shouldn't be. I love your work still. This comment comes from a good place. Stay awesome
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Congrats on the POE2 sponsor!
I don't pay for beta releases.
@@williamyoung9401 good for you
I'll talk about the Killzone 2 colab soon - I wanted to wait a little longer to get dev responses & see if Arrowhead flinch.
The Helldiver Saga is wild, so many peaks and valleys in their success lol
I was hoping you would talk about it. The decision to scrap it as a Warbond and instead sell it off at a MUCH higher price as 2 Super Store pages seems like a step in the wrong direction, but also a decision that most likely came from Sony, not AH.
all you do is shill anyway
It is so fucking ironic they do this right as you release this video.
Sony really is trying to beat out EA and Activision Blizzard as the premier villains of the gaming industry.
Honestly the Killzone Collab drama is so overblown
Fun fact: When the first planet was invaded the invasion level was 96.. we were totally supposed to lose judging by the level, but so many people came back to the game that we actually LIBERATED it. It was incredibly fun to test weapons agaisnt them and try to figure what works and what doesnt.
The first day people were getting absolutely curbstomped by the Illuminates to the point that most matches were focused on main objetives and rush to extraction. AND without mentioning that these Illuminate forces are just the "scouts" so to speak(like said in the video), we didnt meet their full invasion force. Alot of their most powerful units didnt even appear yet
Yeah, I remember doing level 10 helldives in a due with one other friend and using the car to try and escape the city until we got vaporised
I would correct. The meta-system is solely based on Ratio, Like how much of the active players are on that planet.
So player count itself wasn't what pushed it over the edge, but everyone being willing to ignore bots and bugs in favor of trying out the squids.
The meme is real:
We are so back --> It's Over --> We are so back --> It's Over --> We are so back --> It's Over....
@@NIkolla13 ever seen the destiny 2 community?
The true human experience XD
Hd2 Release super hype -> lots of nerf patches, railgun nerfed, game sucks -> hmg buff patch, super hype -> more nerfs, game sucks -> eof release super hype -> it actually sucks, game sucks -> 63 day patch, super hype -> 2 months of no updates and no communication, game sucks -> illuminate drop, mad hype
THE CYCLE CONTINUES
Helldivers has already experienced two events that would sink a normal game and it still keeps on ticking. They need to add difficulty through content and not through balancing, and the Illuminate have done an excellent job of that here. If they want to have more success then they need to continue to test and create events in an evolving fashion as they appear to be doing right now. It seems they have learned their lessons now they must continue to create excellent events that shape the galactic war and drive narrative, like Meridia.
yeah
more mission that are harder
and maybe some liniear ones
I think the only other game I see do similar is No Man Sky. It was reviled at launch but they didn't abandon it.
Getting John helldiver himself on stage was amazing.
As soon as my internets working again I'm diving..FOR SUPER EARTH!!
a friend of mine is obsessed with helldivers. I was watching the game awards and when i told him over a call "there is the illuminate and looks like vehicles as well" he about lost his mind. then he really went crazy when i told him it said out now.
The helldivers update trailer was the best part of the game awards
@@TurtleChad1 True
i agree but in my opinion there were other trailers that didn't get enough attention such as The Long Dark 2 trailer
And then comes the Killzone collab prices from the top rope!
sony likes to destroy the game when its at its peak i guess
It's a collab something most games would consider deluxe and cost more than premium it being a bit pricey isn't to off.
Playing on the Illuminate planets is like playing a multiplayer third person XCOM, except without Dr. Vahlen telling you not to use explosives and instead using a 380mm Orbital Barrage and a 120mm Orbital Barrage on the same location.
I never left. Helldivers is still my favourite multiplayer experience of the last few years.
the same for a whole lot of people as made apparent for best multiplayer game award
To be fair, the stun baton in the store was probably to give a cheaper option to players who didnt want to spend 1000 SC to get the new warbond which the only other melee weapon is locked behind.
1:07 As someone who's worked with two Swedish game dev studios, I can confirm that they take their Summer holiday very seriously.
I was here. Democracy Stands.
FOR FREEDOM!!!!
mindless automaton
stun baton rotating store. no this is a failure
remember that the number went down all because of PlayStation's greed.
One would think he would mention that was the actual reason for the incredibly bad ratings. But instead he praised how they "did so good" communicating with their base
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@@gensofury Not really. The game was buggy af still, had garbage weapon balance and no real new missions or maps.
Most casual players dont consume gaming news.
Sadly...no. If one looks at the player-trend and compares it with other peers in the co-op genre :the number went down, because the genre just doesn't have a high-sustaining number. Stuff like Sony's meddling and the balancing batches that were according to many "killing the game", can not be pinpointed.
Co-Op games by their nature are more casual than competitive multiplayer and will often taper out to a sustained population between 15k to 45k. For people just eventually have had their fill and take a break from it. On that HD2's swinging inbetween ~30k as a floor and spiking to ~60k after a patch was honestly very healthy.
About the "FOMO" for the stun-baton, it should be pointed out that items in the store rotate. In other words if you don't get it now (maybe because you don't have enough Super Credits) you can just buy it the next time it's back with credits you've earned in-game of you don't want to spend the cash.
Now we really just need damned Kusony to unlock the currently locked regions..
And there would be sooo many more people who would get the game and get us so many more players..
Harsh reality is that you might get a few hundred....max.
Majority of the nations locked out do not have the Infrastructure or Economy to enable a luxury like Videogames. With vast majority of the world's population of gamers being concentrated within the 1st world, with Helldivers player-base being like 95% North-americans and West-Europeans. Though many cry foul at the sudden lockout. If you look at the graphs you genuinely cannot spot the shenanigans having done anything....
Don't get me wrong. What Sony did was an inexcusable thing to do suddenly out of nowhere with no regard of consumer-base. But lets not delude ourselves in thinking like there are tens of thousands of players that will suddenly rush in if the lock was lifted.
Arrowhead's decisions to not take the knee-jerk reactions that so many others would and have done are what I think are the best moves for the game and the studio. Their humility as well to go "We've screwed up. We might screw up again. But we're going to keep putting out what we think are the best things for you, the player."... that's refreshing. And their slow work toward what seems to be long-term goals feels far more sustainable than almost any other company might have done.
If I could afford it, I'd be part of the new wave of divers. Sadly, no money.
I'm in the same boat brother. Just know that us reserves are rooting for democracy and the divers
Felt
I had about 8 000 SC just from playing so I buy the Warbonds without having to spend real money,and after buying all the Killzone colab items, I still have over 5 000 SC.
Did they fix their community management problems? Did they reverse the country restrictions? Did they properly apologize for the Sony account situation, or at least the cape based off the negative reviews they teased?
They were the ones who decided to lift the account restriction knowing it had to come back eventually. They stole money from a lot of people and never addressed it, we're happy to let Sony be the scapegoat for something that they've been requiring forever.
Nope lel, The cows got angry because they squeezed a bit too hard last time. So now that the cows are happy again its time for another squeeze. And would you look at that another greedy 'mistake' has just happened. Nothing will ever change with how spineless the gaming community is as a whole.
The cape is reserved for when Sony gets their fingers out of their arses and lets other countries buy the game again. Cape's been ready for months, but releasing it would be in very poor taste while Sony has all those countries by the balls.
@@LethalOwl sony never planned to release in those countries. Arrowhead was the one who didnt play by their deal and now were supposed to pretend their the victims in this. Sony required psn from the start arrowhead didnt implement it and decided to sell to countries they shouldnt. Sony came to enforce the terms of their deal fair and square and now apparently they are satan for being proper businessmen that follow contracts.
This video about Helldivers is brought to you by the game that is trying to take over hd2's place in my day
and straight into controversy with the killzone collab prices
we're back -> it's over -> repeat
Modern video game players do be like this
@zgliu8018 even with my own gamer friends, what's back/ not back changes weekly. I don't envy anyone getting into the gaming biz these days.
The prices are bad but also this is not as big of an issue as people are making it out to be for optional content after we got a huge update for free.
@@kenethernandez6246 i think people are more concerned about how this monetization might affect future content releases, i.e. gutting warbonds and instead putting weapons in the store (with these higher prices)
@Bobbysan Those are fair points to make and I want people to speak out so it doesn't happen. I simply think that the reaction is bit extreme from some people acting like the game is ruined over optional content. I think it's fair to tell the devs the price was too high and to not include weapons in the super store. Some people are doing a bit too much is my only problem.
NEVER FORGET ABOUT THE PSN RUGPULL
True but blame Sony publishing for that, not Arrowhead Devs.
the game is still an abject failure by every metric. the new faction is just a ploy to falsely inflate numbers
@@MauseDays In what world is an AA dev raking millions of sales and having 6 digits worth of active players for a coop game a failure?
Over it.
@@MauseDayswomp womp
And the biggest step they took was the CEO stepping down to take the creative director role to directly pull back the power-ripping, player-adversarial lead balance designer who seems to hate people enjoying the games he works on.
Hearing that the patch was out NOW during the Game Awards was really cool. Saw the trailer and went to reinstall the game there and then.
Where do I find those "slow moving tanky zombies" you mention in the video?
The Voteless I was facing are fast and squishy.
Imagine what the numbers would be, if all the countries that were previously able to play the game got access again.
I’ll say this. 200 credits for a baton isn’t bad at all. I would much rather pay once for something rather than pay monthly for a ton of things I may or may not get, much less even get around to using. The unspoken and important part is that it is possible to get that many credits in two matches, unlikely but possible. So, if you really want that item, just play for a bit and you’ll get it. You can do it in less than a full gaming session.
The part of financial fears turned into the collab. However, the devs have already answered and seem to honestly want to adjust. Arrowhead is the GOAT
Part of me wants to be glad it is doing well, but until 177 nations worth of people are allowed to buy and play it again without risk of their accounts being banned for TOS violations it wont get another second out of me.
It took them over half a year to stop being toxic to their own community, and even then the devs act like pissant children in interviews while the CEO is doing his damnest to earn the communities trust back after their community leads and pr team actively killed their own game
Screw it. I guess I'll buy the game now.
Aaand then they added weapons to the superstore... Democracy damn you Arrowhead. I love you for being so near perfect, and hate you for missing the mark when it's so very close.
You should try the first game, where half the stratagems and weapons were hidden behind DLC (with no way to unlock through gameplay). This is mild compared to the past.
GO helldivers 2!
Then that killzone store situation and still 100+ countries deserving to comeback!
Lets be honest here sony will never allow those countries back. At this point its basically their punishment to helldiver devs for renaging on the deal. They lost their psn users so helldivers loses 100+ countries of possible players its tit for tat.
@@rawrmonster6782 it's still sony
@@Sinaeb neither arrowhead nor sony ever wanted to sell to those countries in the first place. Arrowhead signed a deal requiring psn account then screwed sony over by not implementing it and selling to countries they shouldnt. Not to mention judging from the comment section around videos mentioning the region lock a non insignificant part of the community are glad the poors arent ruining their online experience. The amount of comments saying to get a vpn or fk off is disgusting tbh.
Killzone store, other than FOMO part is a fair criticism, is just people making a fuzz of it, it costs money to make a Collab.
What about the 170+ servers being blacklisted and players from said servers not being able to play?
Yeah, I would check the community again, the crossover store bullshit has just nuked all that good work, I would expect the numbers to drop off again quickly and the reviews to get bombed again.
This one smells seriously of Sony interference. Its the equivalent of a 4 times price increase on a war-bond, Pay to Win mechanics and as has been mentioned they have halved the amount of super credits you can find in game.
This feels like a really bad direction and I think they are going to get slammed for it
The system of hard counters arrowhead initially envisioned might have been ideal on paper, but having experienced the actual implementation it became miserable because their optimization clearly slanted in specific styles gameplay. If everyone needed to bring specific weapons just to handle one or two chargers, then that’s what the game becomes about.
People came for the campain but stayed because the game is at its peak
"The most painful lessons are the ones that stick"
Whelp, Sony has PLENTY of Goo Gone. I can only hope that Arrowhead won't suffer from their horrid mistake much longer.
I'm still trying to decide between Helldivers and Space Marine 2.
We are back as fuck.
Checks if HD2 is available to purchase in the countries they originally released to -> still no -> I still am not diving, I ain't no sheep.
Oh but the squeeze has begun. 1975 SC for one armor set, one weapon, and some cosmetics from what should have been a warbond is ridiculous. The Concord Tax has begun and it will get worse before it gets better.
CDPR, thinking of Cyberpunk: "Excuse me, what?"
10:22 You aint even lying my friends and I usually play on impossible and occasionally helldive playing against the illuminates we had to drop the difficulty to extreme and the first mission we played we couldnt even do half of the objectives.
I still can't support any sony published games while they are still banning it in more then half the countries in the world for no valid reason.
It’s just that they can’t really shake Sony of their back
The Arrowhead cycle reset in the time it took you to make and ship this video.
Obvious failure > backlash > single step in right direction > forgiveness > start over. They're already trying to charge more than 600 credits for a single weapon in their store.
They're not going to change. This studio went from my favorite to my black list in under a year by doing the same thing again and again. The longer consumers are gullible, the lower they'll go.
But at the same time, how much of these negative events were because of Arrowhead themselves. The only one we can confidently blame on them is the poor balancing the game experienced for a while.
But the PSN, and the overpriced items weren’t (likely) due to them, but Sony.
People suspect the item prices weren’t their fault because in the files, it shows a Killzone war bond. Which means that initially it was supposed to be a collab war bond. Which also means this change is likely due to Sony’s interference.
The studio themself has only shown constant growth (with the CEO willing to step down to be more involved with the dev etc.), and adding and changing things the community wanted
Interesting day to post a video with that title.
If they fixed the crashes ill be back
It's been funny to see the fluctuating WE'RE SO BACK and IT'S SO OVER MAN with the Helldiver community in just the span of the week
they will patch spawn rates etc in a few weeks to flush this all down the drain same as they did just after launch
Still not available to my steam ,
Hair transplant is looking real good my dude.
Killzone Colab is launching as a major fail (pricing, etc)...so get ready for the review bombs
It's the holidays, it's only superficial. They can study all they want, if they don't come to this conclusion there will be nothing of value learned.
The Illuminate and Killzone collab in one week is wild. They got me back full-time with that.
Went from the highest highs to the lowest lows. Then they tore their way to the top again
that ad was a bit long
We gonna have a review bomb 2.0
So we have bots bugs and aliens if they have a fourth, should it be mammals like animals with a military? or something like orcs?
Okay, I'm gonna say my 2 cents here.
The Killzone Collab is not as big of a deal you might think it is, mainly, because of one key factor I see, that being that the Killzone armor and weapon. Now, Super Credits can be farmed, it's a very slow farm, but if you wanna build up some Super Credits, it's an option. But given the free content the game has cranked out, I am more than willing to help.
Now, I am not concerned about it one bit so long as one thing stays true.
The Killzone armor and such are just _in Superstore Rotation._
Basically meaning, that this isn't their only time in the shop, so if say, your not quite willing to shell out the cash right away, you can pick it up later.
Also, the devs are looking into reworking the SuperStore, and relooking at how how their microtranasctions are working. Frankly, I think they just honestly fumbled this one.
Agreed it's not as bad as the community reaction makes it seem. Game isn't ruined or anything over optional content. They just need to get their prices right and not put weapons in the super store.
@@memes_the_dna_of_the_soul5487
It still sets an unease in me.
Back when the game started they basically stated only cosmetics would be in the superstore. But here we are where they first put the stun button melee weapon, and now plan to have 3 primaries for the collab be set in the store. Oh and let’s not forget stratagems being in the warbonds too. Yeah sure we can farm SC but at the rate you can get farming and for all these warbonds and store things combined? It definitely seems not worth the time to get so much for a newer player.
they do need a superstore rework imo, as time goes on it will take longer to reach the same page the next time
I dont care about the price. I care about the weapons just sucking ass. I dont want another liberator bro.
As long as they don't make the game avialable where they removed it I keep my negative review. And sony is on my blacklist. Honestly with how expensive games are. Beeing more hostile towards big game devs who do things you don't agree with can help save money or put it more effectively in other games that interest you.
Helldivers 2 can be a lot of fun at times, but it is a super buggy mess. And that's putting it lightly. I can't land with the jump pack without it causing my Helldiver to go tumbling over due to impact with the air. The extreme ragdolling has caused my Helldiver to fuse with the ground upon impact on several occasions, resulting in me temporarily navigating mission maps while stuck in the prone position (back against the ground). I've had my Helldiver get stuck in a perpetual falling animation due to getting trapped in the most stupidest places-like a tiny divet between a tree and a boulder, or an extremely thin gap between a rockface and barricade. I've even had my Helldiver go flying off the ship to his death during a successful exfiltration. And don't get me started on the horrible hit reg! I've shot so many enemies point blank and watched as the projectiles phase right through them, with absolutely zero effect. This is all happening on the latest patch of Helldivers 2. This game has been out for too long to have so many persistent bugs and glitches.
I'm not diving until everybody can dive again. Fck that Sony greed!
And now we are having a problem with the crossover. Stuffs are too expensive for a paid game.
Aaand they immediately threw the regained goodwill down the drain by releasing a pack of ridiculously overpriced content in the super store.
@@AsG_Alligator you don’t have to buy it hoss
@@abstructa.uptempo yOu DOnT hAvE tO BuY iT
Over reacting my guy. It's optional content not game breaking stuff lmao.
@@kenethernandez6246 Absolute copium
@@AsG_AlligatorAbsolute over reaction.
If they reversed the region lock they'd be golden
That’s Sony’s fuck up. Arrowhead has no power over Sony.
Did they unblock the blocked countries yet?
where is the stun baton
Now the question is can they keep it?
The stun baton sucks, it’s exactly the same as the lance
Boutta fall down a cliff again with this collab stunt they are pulling lmao
More power to em
And how to they capitalize on the resurgence? More predatory monetization!
Hail Super Earth
Will not play this game until they reverse the country restrictions.
And no PSN access countries still won't have the ability to buy it and those who did will eventually lose access to it, unfortunately for arrowhead Sony still has them in their grasp and has managed to manipulate its existing community to be satisfied about not pushing for PSN linking FOR NOW
They never said never, hopefully they don't but its sony
Tell me
Have they fixed that nonsense sony tried to force? Cause im not going back if it means that other regions are stil locked out of the game
Too bad they started going down the greed lane
They nerfed the super credit spawn rates and how much you get to 10 only and didn’t tell anyone
@chadjohnson2035 that is not true you can still get 100 credit packs
ive only gotten 10 super credits per pick up for like months now, that was nerfed back in the early daays because frankly, it was really easy to get to 1000
@@snakeeyes941 wrong
@@invertedv12powerhouse77 thanks I knew I wasn’t tripping
@@invertedv12powerhouse77 absolutely a lie. I got it not too long ago. Sounds like you’re just unlucky.
You didnt mention the actual issue was the furry discord mod.
Loving PoE2, but hate to break it to you, the slow deliberate gameplay with the souls-like bosses.... that's just untill you break the barrier a bit. And you'll be twinking every subsequent alt to break that even sooner. After that happens, all the carefull work the devs put into the bossess, doesn't matter anymore because you'll be running and killing in a flash again, just like in every other ARPG.
I loved the first 20 hours though. It just doesn't make it through. Also, with the mapping, that would become tedious. And they know this, because you loose your map after 1 attempt. Where I would die to bosses for an hour to just to beat them. It was great! But that's just a little bit of the game.
Game is still packaged with a rootkit for PC users, can we stop heaping blind praise on a team that ignores a clear cut problem with their product just because the game says "lol democwacy xD"? I could almost swear this channel has turned into Helldiver News.
OH THE BAD TIMING
Damn, further from failure.
Holy cow that ad lol… way to make poe2 look like Poe 2 a mobile throw away lol
and yet over 100 countries still cant play ya no not coming back without other divers
Quality
At no point the incoming faction was a mystery. It was known since launch that it was gonna happen at some point later in the development.
The genius is more the fact they are using this kind of event to keep playerbase opinion positive while milking them with new microtransactions with every single new update....
The game is already 60 bucks, so yeah it's a bit scummy to add more than 10$ of microtransaction with every new update (and not just for cosmectics, it's actually a price wall locking new gameplay elements like stratagems).
Arrowhead is just going downhill in term of business practice and joining all other bullshit live service games.... Which is definitely disappointing.
I disagree with the idea that player counts are representative of the quality of the game, and is in fact detrimental to the health of the game if taken seriously by any developer.
This is a PvE game with lots of repetitive gameplay supported by a smaller dev team who can barely put out a small content patch every month. This is the kind of game that most people will play for a bit, leave, and then come back when there is something new. This is not the kind of game that uses tricks like FOMO events or excessive progression mechanics that are designed purely to boost player numbers so the publisher has a good metric to share with their stock holders. Those kinds of games have lots of players who have more hours in the game, but less hours actually having FUN in said game. This is basically like saying game X is a better game than game Y because game X takes 50 hours to complete while game Y only takes 6 hours. The playtime (or player count) has no bearing on the quality of the game, and making changes with the desire to boost this arbitrary metric can actively make the game worse.
Do they still have rootkit access on PC? There were other things that even stopped me from buying it on ps5
Most online PC games have that, people just refuse to believe it. EAC being a great example and people dgaf about games using that.
Let me remove cape, its distracting and the physics look shit
Me waiting for it to come Xbox
Having “it’s back” on the thumbnail is clickbait, it’s still banned in most of the world
I'm surprised the backlash against the devs giga-nerfs didn't kill the game. Wasn't there a lot of doomposting around that time? and why does it feel like the game is being marketed as if it's only releasing just now? lol
It did for me. Couldn't take them killing every fun weapon in the game. Balance in pve is a meme. Two months was all I could give to a game that has nothing other than extraction mode.
Because they did a massive balance rework over a 2 month period.
And the reason it’s getting remarketed is from the pattern, every MAJOR update adds a sub title, signifying that it’s a big update.
And yeah, the illuminates are huge freakin deal
The nerfs took me from steamrolling the game to there being some actual challenge on higher difficulties. People who were complaining about nerfs just needed to turn down the difficulty to something matching their skill level.
Still needs the 180 countries to be able to play the game again but sony is still being weird...
Then new expensive super store items drop and its so joever 😂 (its fine)
Yeah, people just can't stop crying. Addicted to drama xD
Personal sentiment was remembering the devs insulting us for not liking the way they wanted us to play, calling us names on discord when we point out that the constant nerfs are bad, the rebalance of enemies was bad and the game was getting less fun with every update.
Im done with helldivers, i refuse to believe they made a new faction anything less than not fun to play against, like spamming bot drops while getting kicked for not following the current meta
Did they fix the sony fuck ups with accounts? Can global steam access it as they should be able to?
Nope. PSN still hasn’t been fixed (and honestly, I don’t think they’re planning too, which sucks)
I do not trust you on this topic. And others shouldn’t either.
And that makes me really sad, because I like your content.
I am playing the crap out of the game, but my friends and I all refused to spend more money until Sony allows the game to be sold in this 177 countries again.