dig the time lapse , good job , I ve seen shops where they put Duraglas body filler over welds , then bondo . this stops any vibration of body panel from cracking bondo and paint
This was a $100 a side repair on a beater work truck.. I could have done a better job but then the repair would have been worth more than the truck.. Up here in New England we patch up rusty work rigs...
Good solid job. Back in the day, I used to wrap, rivet, & weld sheet metal and then blend it all in with bondo. It wasn't factory perfect by any means, but it would last a long time and pass inspections every year. Thanks for making this video.
this helped me get a beeter idea I have to do the same type of rust repair on my front drivers fender its an 1983 saab 900 anyone know where I could get the fender patch like he has here for my saab up here in canada
No this is not car show trophy winning bodywork. But if a guy can keep a shitbox passing inspection until major catastrophic mechanical disintegration.Because the cost of replacement of parts well past wear limits the manufacturers & engineers thought conceivable.And its still operable.Then this is great bodywork for the price.
Great video, I enjoyed it! Also, I know it's not a show truck and I don't know crap when it comes to body-work...random question though. What about the very thin gap between the bottom of the edge of the old metal and the top of the fresh metal where the weld is? Since it's in a wheel well, surely mud and dirt and moisture is going to fly up and get trapped up in there, no?
Yea, this isn't the best way to fix it, but it gets the job done. To avoid further rusting from the dirt and moisture that is bound to get up there, you need to spray some undercoating in that gap, as well as spray some fluid film all through there at least once every fall. If you do that religiously, as well as spray your hose in there a few times a year, this patch will easily last the remaining life of the truck
I have no clue how thick it is but I would imagine it possible at least. Granted I'm just a shitty comment mechanic but I do know that I may look weird when it is done.
As good a job as you did, wouldn't it have made more sense for the customer to have gone to a panel shop? Also I really feel for you guys having to deal with rust. I guess I'm lucky that in Australia (at least the part where I live) rust is rarely much of an issue, even on 20 year old cars.
How much does a repair like that cost? I've got a 03 powerstroke that needs this repair very bad and I'm gonna have it fixed soon and I'd like and idea of what these repairs run.
+Evan Hebert I overlapped it to help give a bit more strength at the cost of appearance. Ideally you would want to line up the patch and butt weld it in like you said.
Nice Job Amesie. If you want to have a rant, Body work is a completely different trade. Ideally we all know the rights and wrongs. If your a body work guy and your thinking about commenting, firstly watch Amesie repairing engines with no room to get your hands in, ask yourself could you do his job as well as him?
Harvey Smith i could do hell of a lot better, shit i do it ICAR Toyota Specified, firstly the whole panel should have been replaced and not a piece of it, second i don't even need to feel it to tell you that bondo work was not complete and i can assure you it was not straight.
Well I'm glad he ain't fixing my truck . All that steel behind there behind that patch panel is going to rush through. All that should have been cut out and a butt welded together
Customer didn't have the budget for a work truck that only had to last the winter.. Would you be happy if you wanted it this way for cheap to come to pick it up and the bill is more than the trucks worth?
Hi Amesie.I just bought a 2002 Ford F150XLT extended cab . I'm going to make one good truck out of the two. Those panels are going to make that part of the job fairly easy for me and it will also be my first stab at this type of work. I have a question. Right in front of the rear bumper and below the tail light, the bottom corner is rusted out (a pretty good hole) A guy mentioned that you can get pre-molded metal pieces that once you cut away the rust, you can slap these on like the panels in the video. Amesie, what are they called exactly? Lastly, where are you located? If you're not too far away, maybe I just bring you the work. Thanks.
Maybe it's because I'm not a social media guru I'm just a motorhead type guy..But I do know for a fact I would rather see you describing your process while actually looking at the subject matter and not following your face around the shop while you guys talk into your NEW go pro ..And YES the drivers side panel does in fact have more going on then just some rust ..So if you could show us how you cut the old section away to get it ready to accept the new panel . Did you Butt weld it Or did you overlap Or did you use the Flange tool to create a step in the panel ?
nathan linder even if you were to argue that it needed to quickly go back to work ASAP, you could have put a whole bed side on it, or even if you put in a whole new Box ITS ACTUALLY EASIER AND FASTER TO PUT A WHOLE BOX ASSEMBLY!!!!! RIP Truck. SAD!
Andrew Stevens way too much that's why I burrowed a welder and am at this site. I've seen this way or cutting out the whole panel but I don't wire feed weld that much and I'm afraid if I weld but to but I'll end up with a. Much of holes Why wasn't I born rich ! I hate body work . I think I'll do it this way.. I don't know how you don't see that it's thicker on top. Forget. Bondo use drywall mud with a 12 " knife lol
We did something like that years ago on a car. However, due to the cold winters here, the metals tend to expand and contract at different rates. Eventually, we started to see the rivets under the paint and next the seams started to show. I'd recommend spot welding it.
I had one side done on an F350. It cost about $2500. It included the outer and inner fender rust repair, matched paint, replacement "FX4" sticker and body trim. Parts and paint was just over $500, the rest was labor. In my case, the truck was worth it, since it was the only rust area and it brought the value up and looked like new again.
+Um No also, not criticizing, y would you go through the trouble of spot welding, and not just finish weld and grind? for what reason? labor hours or something? again asking, i think $$$ reasons.
+Um No you spot weld panels to keep the heat down. if you try to run a bead you can burn through the panel or if you dont burn through your panel will buckle and youll have one wavy son of a bitch that not even bondo can fix.
Why is it so hard for everyone to understand that this is a shit box work truck that's just getting a patch job if this was a 2015 $50k superduty then I could see all the butt hurtness but it's not
go reds I don’t get it either! It’s an old probably half miles out super duty, this is going to be a fine fix for the rest of the useable life of this truck, easy to criticize work you didn’t do I guess
You must have missed the part where I explain that it was what the owner of that worktruck that only had to pass inspection and last one season wanted.. If you want I can give the next job like this your info and you can pay the difference to do it right.
@@AmesiesCorner I still would not have done it that way. As I said, a little more work and you would have a panel that is not going to rust out again. If you can't afford to do the job correctly don't do it.
How come when you traced the new panel onto the box of the truck you just removed where the rust was and welded the whole panel over the existing box side? Why not just cut it all out to fit the whole new panel? Isn't that going to make the body work more difficult when trying to hide where you welded? Asking because ill be tackling the same job soon.
Bray91 he traced it to know where he would have to soft brush down to the bare metal so when he welds the new panel on the paint won't contaminant the weld bead. And also, he left the metal on to make the new panel strong since there is no inner structure behind the panel, assuming it rusted out just like the wheel wells.
People seem to gloss over the fact that this was a work truck and this job had a very low budget to get the truck an inspection sticker and get back to work.. People are quick to bash this job but it's what the front office and the customer agreed to meet the amount of $ the customer wanted to spend..
Wow....you shouldn't be allowed to make videos showing people how to do something if you yourself do not know how to do it....not only does he now have a piece welded to the outside of the original panel, making the new piece stick out further and not being flat and straight, but he also now has no inner wheel well. The thing is just going to rust out again. I would be filing a lawsuit if someone did this to my vehicle
Why would you not replace the whole panel? Wtf dude that is horrible work poor truck. Take this from a certified Toyota Repair Technician, this is NOT how you repair a Truck. Did you cut off that panel from a new OEM panel?
Nope, it's a patch panel. Costs like $25. Must be nice to be able to throw a customers money around.. It's a beater work truck this was done in a few hours for minimal cost.
Certified Toyota Autobody Repair Tech. I work with insurance companies and if it is customer pay we do it the proper way, it is a lot faster to replace the whole panel dude.
I'm just a tech broh, I do what the boss tells me. In this case it was what you see here. Just the piano player in the whorehouse, I play what I'm told. What do you think the cost of a whole bedside for that truck is vs the patch panel. Is one even still available?
Amesie's Automotive Corner it may seem faster but in the real world on a truck like that a boxside from the dealer is about $700 an aftermarket is about $500 to do a box side u get prolly about 13 hrs labor time plus an inner which is another $100 and another 1.5 hrs so call it 15 hrs at even $50 per hr so that $750 + 700 +100= $1550 plus paint time and paint and material so ur lookin at $2000 or a patch panel for $50 and 8hrs labor plus inner I don't need to do the math it's much cheaper not the right repair but it's a good bandaid most of my customers opt for paint fender flares but that's an even worse bandaid if ur goin to do these I recommend buying a flange tool to over lap the weld butt welding is great when it works but can be a pain honestly this guy could have done a great job with a flange tool and spreading out his weld more for heat
Thats absolutely fucking terrible bro thats going to rust immediately are you kidding me wtf are you even doing thats totally wrong. Holy shit dude. You welded it right ontop of the other panel wtf?!?!?!?! WHAT?!?!?!!?!?!!? WHAAAAAAATTTTTTT!!!!!
I'm watching thinking, "He's NOT going to overlay that is he?"
Hahaha that’s what I was saying
Brooo samee
I was curling my toes and biting my tongue thinking the same thing
Hey Yes your not a full time auto body guy but you did what had to be done and awesome job you did. Excellent video.
That time lapse camera makes it a whole lot better with taking notes on the process. Nice job🖒
thanks man, that is exactly what i am going to do on my 1991
good video; quick and right to business. thx!
dig the time lapse , good job , I ve seen shops where they put Duraglas body filler over welds , then bondo . this stops any vibration of body panel from cracking bondo and paint
Good video overlaying makes it easier and probably stronger
Ready to rust out again.
Question do you think it would lay more flush if I cut out the size of the whole panel?
Folks, this a good lesson in NOT how to do body work! Wow, I can't believe you went right over the old metal!
This was a $100 a side repair on a beater work truck.. I could have done a better job but then the repair would have been worth more than the truck.. Up here in New England we patch up rusty work rigs...
Not too bad it will look pretty good when you are done.
The music in this ROCKS!
man bro. you seriously can do it all. I really appreciate your videos. thanks.
Good solid job. Back in the day, I used to wrap, rivet, & weld sheet metal and then blend it all in with bondo. It wasn't factory perfect by any means, but it would last a long time and pass inspections every year. Thanks for making this video.
I'm about to replace both of mine. Looks like you got a bigger flair. I'm glad I got a long box I don't like how close you are to the fuel tank
Love the music!
Good video on how to do half the job right. As 'CallmeRodgerRodger' said.
Where can I go to get this done and how much generally
this helped me get a beeter idea I have to do the same type of rust repair on my front drivers fender its an 1983 saab 900 anyone know where I could get the fender patch like he has here for my saab up here in canada
Fine job
How long did it take for both sides? And about how much does it cost for your average person to do it vs a shop?
Next time trim up patch panel. Easier to Bondo. Trim to circle shape. Keep repair as small as possible
That's my thought and why doesn't anyone flange edges?
Thank you!
Just go to a place that installs service bodies. They sell boxes for about a grand around here.
Good luck finding a box for a 10+ year old truck. New box lines are different for the F150.
Who did you get the replacement panels from I have a 2006 f350 need to fix any help would be appreciated
Looks good
No this is not car show trophy winning bodywork. But if a guy can keep a shitbox passing inspection until major catastrophic mechanical disintegration.Because the cost of replacement of parts well past wear limits the manufacturers & engineers thought conceivable.And its still operable.Then this is great bodywork for the price.
Doesn't matter. With just a little more work the joint could be butt welded.
Hello.. do you think that my lincoln 140. Welder will work for this type of repair. ..? Thank you ..
Yes it will.
the machine will work. but will the welder be able to handle it? thats a totally different question.
Great video, I enjoyed it! Also, I know it's not a show truck and I don't know crap when it comes to body-work...random question though. What about the very thin gap between the bottom of the edge of the old metal and the top of the fresh metal where the weld is?
Since it's in a wheel well, surely mud and dirt and moisture is going to fly up and get trapped up in there, no?
Yea, this isn't the best way to fix it, but it gets the job done. To avoid further rusting from the dirt and moisture that is bound to get up there, you need to spray some undercoating in that gap, as well as spray some fluid film all through there at least once every fall. If you do that religiously, as well as spray your hose in there a few times a year, this patch will easily last the remaining life of the truck
Hi buddy where do you get the part please let me know thakns
My silverado needs the same repair could I just use metal pop rivets I have fender covers so I'm not worried about bulges in the paint
I have no clue how thick it is but I would imagine it possible at least. Granted I'm just a shitty comment mechanic but I do know that I may look weird when it is done.
@@ohnojt I don't mind weird as long as it extends the life I could always get some of those brush guards to put on it
How u do it
Good video, great music!
More like head banging shit music, with all due respect .
tack welding faster
and better smooth
As good a job as you did, wouldn't it have made more sense for the customer to have gone to a panel shop? Also I really feel for you guys having to deal with rust. I guess I'm lucky that in Australia (at least the part where I live) rust is rarely much of an issue, even on 20 year old cars.
JSVSouth Body shops take weeks to turn around a project like that. Being a work truck it needed to go back to work fast.
i think its not the weather its the cheap materials they use at the factory
did u see the rise at all?
How much does a repair like that cost? I've got a 03 powerstroke that needs this repair very bad and I'm gonna have it fixed soon and I'd like and idea of what these repairs run.
whats the average price for something like this ??
When I do body work I do little spot welds where the metal lines up I don't overlap is that not a good style?
+Evan Hebert I overlapped it to help give a bit more strength at the cost of appearance. Ideally you would want to line up the patch and butt weld it in like you said.
Tine lapse came out good 1
How much this cost
Nice job Amesie
What settings is your welder at? I am new to welding but very interested. I am just afraid of overpowering it and screwing up the metal.
What about any fumes coming out of the fuel filler,i would be shitting myself welding that close to it.
heh
Nice Job Amesie.
If you want to have a rant, Body work is a completely different trade. Ideally we all know the rights and wrongs.
If your a body work guy and your thinking about commenting, firstly watch Amesie repairing engines with no room to get your hands in, ask yourself could you do his job as well as him?
Harvey Smith i could do hell of a lot better, shit i do it ICAR Toyota Specified, firstly the whole panel should have been replaced and not a piece of it, second i don't even need to feel it to tell you that bondo work was not complete and i can assure you it was not straight.
Don't worry. He's gonna roll some texture paint on then spray bomb it. ;-)
i dont understand how this is bad. how is rust not stopped
@@hitheros8223 what is the name of your channel
I thought he was tracing it to create a cut line.......not a prep line! ugh
Your not scared to weld next to the gas fill cap? Are there any preventive measures you take when welding next to the gas fill cap?
bob arvello it’s diesel
Well I'm glad he ain't fixing my truck . All that steel behind there behind that patch panel is going to rush through. All that should have been cut out and a butt welded together
Customer didn't have the budget for a work truck that only had to last the winter.. Would you be happy if you wanted it this way for cheap to come to pick it up and the bill is more than the trucks worth?
Nice work.
I need this pieces for my 04 F350 Ford.
Where to buy please
Estuardo Urrutia eBay
Where can you by body parts for a Nissan. I couldn't find any good online catalogs.
The junkyard
+Evan Hebert Salvage yard won't do. All Nissan Sentras of that vintage rust out really badly at the rocker and A-Pillar joint.
Them tasty riffs
Amesie, I need to do this on my 1992 Bronco. Looking to find a local guy here in California to do it - What do think this would cost for two fenders?
Hard to say, probably about $400 or so a side for a quality job.
Thanks for the quick reply and great video!
to me...there's something about doing something right the first time
And there's something you have to do when the customer has a budget to get a work truck working again..
What music
+Evan Hebert It's all on the TH-cam free music. I think that was mostly Ethan Meixsell.
Hi Amesie.I just bought a 2002 Ford F150XLT extended cab . I'm going to make one good truck out of the two. Those panels are going to make that part of the job fairly easy for me and it will also be my first stab at this type of work. I have a question. Right in front of the rear bumper and below the tail light, the bottom corner is rusted out (a pretty good hole) A guy mentioned that you can get pre-molded metal pieces that once you cut away the rust, you can slap these on like the panels in the video. Amesie, what are they called exactly? Lastly, where are you located? If you're not too far away, maybe I just bring you the work. Thanks.
Maybe it's because I'm not a social media guru I'm just a motorhead type guy..But I do know for a fact I would rather see you describing your process while actually looking at the subject matter and not following your face around the shop while you guys talk into your NEW go pro ..And YES the drivers side panel does in fact have more going on then just some rust ..So if you could show us how you cut the old section away to get it ready to accept the new panel . Did you Butt weld it Or did you overlap Or did you use the Flange tool to create a step in the panel ?
Why not cut out the hole piece ?
Would it not have been more practical and cheaper to find a clean donor box? Or is it better to repair.
nathan linder It's a work truck and needed to go back to work asap.
Oh okay. Makes sense
nathan linder even if you were to argue that it needed to quickly go back to work ASAP, you could have put a whole bed side on it, or even if you put in a whole new Box ITS ACTUALLY EASIER AND FASTER TO PUT A WHOLE BOX ASSEMBLY!!!!! RIP Truck. SAD!
I need the exact same repair on my f250 Powerstroke. I need both sides done. What does a job like this cost?
Andrew Stevens I just ordered 2 rear panels for my 04 f250. woth panels provided how much will labour cost approx?
Andrew Stevens way too much that's why I burrowed a welder and am at this site. I've seen this way or cutting out the whole panel but I don't wire feed weld that much and I'm afraid if I weld but to but I'll end up with a. Much of holes Why wasn't I born rich ! I hate body work . I think I'll do it this way.. I don't know how you don't see that it's thicker on top. Forget. Bondo use drywall mud with a 12 " knife lol
Mark Schuster I think you could just poprivet the new panel in and skip welding couldn't you? And just grind the rivets down smooth.
We did something like that years ago on a car. However, due to the cold winters here, the metals tend to expand and contract at different rates. Eventually, we started to see the rivets under the paint and next the seams started to show. I'd recommend spot welding it.
I had one side done on an F350. It cost about $2500. It included the outer and inner fender rust repair, matched paint, replacement "FX4" sticker and body trim. Parts and paint was just over $500, the rest was labor. In my case, the truck was worth it, since it was the only rust area and it brought the value up and looked like new again.
Tear it off and put a new flatbed on
Should you overlap like that lol
Kept looking for the part where you cut away the overlap. Not so. Poor repair.
I can only do what the customer asks for. I can't increase their budget..
do you like megadeth? kinda marty friedman style guitar runs. i like megadeth.
+Um No also, not criticizing, y would you go through the trouble of spot welding, and not just finish weld and grind? for what reason? labor hours or something? again asking, i think $$$ reasons.
+Um No you spot weld panels to keep the heat down. if you try to run a bead you can burn through the panel or if you dont burn through your panel will buckle and youll have one wavy son of a bitch that not even bondo can fix.
it should of been welded all the way not just tacked. you can weld it in sections to keep done on heat.
I thought it was dangerous to weld or grid near the fuel tank.
No takes a lot of heat and fumes to exploded
no that's not a standard work dammit. . maybe replace both body side panel. . .a lot of body filler. that's not so easy to apply filler. .
Why is it so hard for everyone to understand that this is a shit box work truck that's just getting a patch job if this was a 2015 $50k superduty then I could see all the butt hurtness but it's not
go reds I don’t get it either! It’s an old probably half miles out super duty, this is going to be a fine fix for the rest of the useable life of this truck, easy to criticize work you didn’t do I guess
I wouldn't do my truck like that. Therefore I would not do someone else's truck like that. Why repair the bedside just to set it up to rust out again?
You must have missed the part where I explain that it was what the owner of that worktruck that only had to pass inspection and last one season wanted.. If you want I can give the next job like this your info and you can pay the difference to do it right.
@@AmesiesCorner I still would not have done it that way. As I said, a little more work and you would have a panel that is not going to rust out again. If you can't afford to do the job correctly don't do it.
@@AmesiesCorner How many hours do you bill for a job like this in the procedure you used?
How much to do my Ram? I'll trade for those shirts you need...
Rt Carolina Possibly.
Amesie's Corner We should hook up on email or send a private message. I'm about 3 hours south of you. A youtube collaboration could be fun.
How come when you traced the new panel onto the box of the truck you just removed where the rust was and welded the whole panel over the existing box side? Why not just cut it all out to fit the whole new panel? Isn't that going to make the body work more difficult when trying to hide where you welded? Asking because ill be tackling the same job soon.
Bray91 he traced it to know where he would have to soft brush down to the bare metal so when he welds the new panel on the paint won't contaminant the weld bead. And also, he left the metal on to make the new panel strong since there is no inner structure behind the panel, assuming it rusted out just like the wheel wells.
i went to college for this and that bondo work looks bad. sorry
People seem to gloss over the fact that this was a work truck and this job had a very low budget to get the truck an inspection sticker and get back to work.. People are quick to bash this job but it's what the front office and the customer agreed to meet the amount of $ the customer wanted to spend..
First haha nice vid
Ummmm.....NO.
skin over skin...hmm.
Wow....you shouldn't be allowed to make videos showing people how to do something if you yourself do not know how to do it....not only does he now have a piece welded to the outside of the original panel, making the new piece stick out further and not being flat and straight, but he also now has no inner wheel well. The thing is just going to rust out again. I would be filing a lawsuit if someone did this to my vehicle
It's a work truck. This was what the customer wanted done to get it by another plowing season.
Musique de marde.
Why would you not replace the whole panel? Wtf dude that is horrible work poor truck. Take this from a certified Toyota Repair Technician, this is NOT how you repair a Truck. Did you cut off that panel from a new OEM panel?
Nope, it's a patch panel. Costs like $25.
Must be nice to be able to throw a customers money around..
It's a beater work truck this was done in a few hours for minimal cost.
I'm curious as to why a certified Toyota tech would need to know bodywork?
I was a certified Mazda tech and we left the bodywork to the body techs.
Certified Toyota Autobody Repair Tech. I work with insurance companies and if it is customer pay we do it the proper way, it is a lot faster to replace the whole panel dude.
I'm just a tech broh, I do what the boss tells me. In this case it was what you see here.
Just the piano player in the whorehouse, I play what I'm told.
What do you think the cost of a whole bedside for that truck is vs the patch panel. Is one even still available?
Amesie's Automotive Corner it may seem faster but in the real world on a truck like that a boxside from the dealer is about $700 an aftermarket is about $500 to do a box side u get prolly about 13 hrs labor time plus an inner which is another $100 and another 1.5 hrs so call it 15 hrs at even $50 per hr so that $750 + 700 +100= $1550 plus paint time and paint and material so ur lookin at $2000 or a patch panel for $50 and 8hrs labor plus inner I don't need to do the math it's much cheaper not the right repair but it's a good bandaid most of my customers opt for paint fender flares but that's an even worse bandaid if ur goin to do these I recommend buying a flange tool to over lap the weld butt welding is great when it works but can be a pain honestly this guy could have done a great job with a flange tool and spreading out his weld more for heat
Thats absolutely fucking terrible bro thats going to rust immediately are you kidding me wtf are you even doing thats totally wrong. Holy shit dude. You welded it right ontop of the other panel wtf?!?!?!?! WHAT?!?!?!!?!?!!? WHAAAAAAATTTTTTT!!!!!
You must have missed the part where there was a tiny budget to get this pos work truck back on the job.
stop with the tweeker music ruined your vid.