My favourite moment this year HAS to be Bambie crowning Nemo after they won. Bambie's 'catchphrase' this entire season was "Crown the witch" and then they crowned Nemo after their win!! A song about breaking the binary code won and Nemo represented both non-binary artists in their winner performance. Absolutely loved it and I hope to see more of their friendship in the future!
Me: I know he said it, but I don't understand how Gabe can be straight! Gabe: I don't understand it (Zorra), I've never gotten it at all Me: THERE it is! We still love you anyway Gabe!
I think that you have to have experienced societal shame to understand Zorra (and the catharsis of a song that joyously rejects that shame), so it makes sense that Gabe would struggle with it. We still love him, even if he cannot appreciate Zorra.
Jay, if you're reading this, I need to know that your editing style is IMMACULATE. Makes me laugh every. single. time. and I'm not exaggerating. I hope you know how much we all appreciate your work, kudos to you!
I agree with Gabe that Estonia is the best televote bait entry. Its just so perfect and fun and catchy even without knowing a single word in Estonian. I wish they did better with the televote. They deserved like 100+ points in the televotes
Israel televoting: it was warned long ahead of the contest that there was an organized conspiracy involving VPNs and sim cards, usable in other countries, which explains quite well the insane breadth and number of televotes for such a shitty song.
It almost makes me feel better about the whole thing, knowing that there were some people stubborn enough to waste their actual money on mass voting, cheating, and promoting that song only for it to not even get into top 3. Like... imagine all that organized effort, the whole budget on YT adds, bending the rules. And then you lose to a guy singing about missing his cat and a person making puns about gender. It makes them look so desperate and pathetic, looking back at the whole context.
@@MariaMariamuzieklove It's mindblowing, how nationalistic right-wing people are always like: "our country FIRST" and "WE are the most important"... But then they'll literally waste their own money to support other conservative governments or foreigners, just to spite the left or something, when it's convenient. How does it make sense for them to be so loudly "pro-Israel" or "pro-Russia" etc. when they are not from those places? How is throwing money for a different country's gain supposed to patriotic? No moral backbone and consistency with those people...
I have to strongly agree with you Gabe. There is no universe where Croatia is a televote baiting/ joke song. Just because it won the televote doesn't change that the goal was to win the whole thing. It doesn't have the necessary silliness or focus on only appealing to the audience that true contenders like Finland and Estonia have. Only looking at the televote results would mean Ukraine and Israel were also 'televote bait'. And I don't think anyone would think that about those songs.
I think that the most underrated song at Eurovision has to la noia by Angelina mango from 🇮🇹 to be the 2nd most listened to song only beaten by euorpa is crazy and shows how good the song is and I think it would be number 1 if europpa wasn’t disqualified a 7th place and no 12 points is criminal and I also think she has the best chance to become world wide famous bc nemo sinning is ridiculously good but not many people listen to opera and if they keeps that idk how many people would listen to them and joosts music is heavily built for live preforms in my opinion and also hope you are feeling well gabe and class video
Not to diminish Angelina and La Noia, she's an amazing performer with an amazing song. But Italian entries are often on top of the Eurovision streaming charts cause of the popularity of Sanremo in Italy. It's hard to say how much that impacted the ranking. Tho obviously Italy always send amazing entries!
25:27 I hundred prosent agree with the balkan guy about Ireland. It's one of those songs that don't work so well outside of the eurovision stage. When I watched the recap of Ireland's national final songs I wanted bambie to go forward mainly because it would be remembered and it would stand out. But I had not prepared for the performance and vocals to be that great compared to eurosong.
@@Eggplant_Emoji No it wasn't. The first video was on this channel as well. And they said at the timestamp that this was supposed to be posted on his channel.
Ukraine was definitely one of the most unique. They mixed Gospel with Rap. How wasn't that unique? Especially for Eurovision? Plus Jerry Heil was by far the most beautiful lady
not shocked luxembourg did better than expected. the song is dedicated to her idf soldier brother and all of the national final organizers were israeli. not shocked if she got a bump from sponsors and the televote from the few israelis that didn't buy extra phones and sim cards to vote multiple times. not that no one else cheats, but this was so blatant and should be punished.
I’m confused why Italy is considered mid-tempo and Greece high-tempo: I think both are mid-tempo. Other than that, I enjoyed your discussion. I may not agree with some choices, but you both explain your reasoning well. I like the song by Spain, even if I feel it was scored properly in the final, but the message is very important.
Interesting. I agreed with so many things said in this video but this repeated major love you both have for Ramonda is so mysterious because that just did not happen for me. It would be my lowest ranked of the finalists because both the song itself and the staging were so boring.
Talking about my country 🇵🇹 Iolanda made us sooo proud, we in Portugal don't care much about Eurovision like many countries, but making two top 10s in 3 years makes me think we are doing a great job but RTP is doing a stinky job at promoting ESC here and to our emigrants abroad, beyond that they are rubbish in making Eurovision "cool" to the younger audiences.
As beautiful and amazing a Slimane's performance was, I cant reward such a cliche' and boring song lyric wise as Best Ballad. Best ballad performance? tossup between him, Iolanda, and Teodora
"I looove youuuu, I don't know wwhyyyy! [...] Doooon't you looove meee?" I despise the lyrics, I'm sorry Slimane. Might be cause my broken french only clocks the most basic phrases but it's so... Whiney 🙈 Great performer and singer! My personal favourite ballad has to be Iolanda, what a strong entry.
I agree with you about the lyrics. Honestly, the whole song. Slimane being so incredibly charismatic, charming, and talented, is why the song scored highly. The song itself isn't anything special, and in the hands of many other singers, it would have even been ignored. Slimane is what was special about it, not anything within the song itself.
Amer, my fieind, I grasp how significant it is to you, a Bosnian, of the timing of all those qualifications on such an ironic date. But it cant really be "the biggest moment of the year" when it applies to such a tiny fraction of the viewers/fanbase. Nearly the same thing for that press conference - very view people actually saw that and have any idea what you're referring to. For that category you really need to look beyond what was a big moment to YOU, and think about the bigger picture - what was a big moment to at least a majority of fans/viewers, if not nearly all. as Gabe mentioned a perfect example would be Latvia qualifying against every prediction. THAT shocked the entire fanbase/expert community.
51:07 Digga was ein Disrespect gegen Isaak nur weil er die Sache auf den Punkt bringt Im sorry but thats a scandal I dont like Isaak but his personality is just wow
Yeah Croatia's televote bait - the call and response, the memable dance and the iconic lines - i sold my cow, meow cat please meow back. That said the Netherlands and Estonia are even more so.
Sorry Balkan guy i hate We Will Rave - that's the equivalent of what Zorra is to Gabe - it doesn't even have a good message. I agree with Gabe - Norway and Estonia were robbed.
Eh, I don't know him, but Baby Lasagna doesn't seem like someone who'd be calculating like that. To me it seems like he just entered with a song that was fun for him to perform. The televote liking it was predictable but not the main purpose of the song. That's just my impression, of course.
@@emdovesure, i don’t think he calculated more than anyone else, every artist were true to them selves. For example Estonia, Finland, Netherlands, Ireland, it’s just a fact that certain type of music does better with televote than Jory. Croatia is totally televote bait, but I also think he was true to him self even this song seem bit more rockier that his other songs.
As a Spainish FtM, I take high offense to you saying we didn't deserve those points, it was the anthem of all the spanish women and was very emotional to us that it won and made it to eurovision; tho I should expect such disrespect for a man, as you know nothing about how women are treated even by newspapers. Honestly I wish you even faced the one percent of things were subjected to face every single day.
i wish esc gabe was real
😭😭😭
same
Same Kat, same...
wishful thinking fr
i wish thebalkanguy was real
My favourite moment this year HAS to be Bambie crowning Nemo after they won. Bambie's 'catchphrase' this entire season was "Crown the witch" and then they crowned Nemo after their win!! A song about breaking the binary code won and Nemo represented both non-binary artists in their winner performance. Absolutely loved it and I hope to see more of their friendship in the future!
Me: I know he said it, but I don't understand how Gabe can be straight!
Gabe: I don't understand it (Zorra), I've never gotten it at all
Me: THERE it is!
We still love you anyway Gabe!
I think that you have to have experienced societal shame to understand Zorra (and the catharsis of a song that joyously rejects that shame), so it makes sense that Gabe would struggle with it.
We still love him, even if he cannot appreciate Zorra.
Ha. That’s my usual reaction to Italy’s entries.
Wait, surely he isn't straight??
Something about the way Gabe talks makes me trust him more than I should.
Gabe clarifying he’s straight as if his takes on Spain don’t make that abundantly clear
I dont even care about the categories im here for the beef between estonia man and spain man
For me Jerry Heil was the most gorgeous - the flowing dress, the background, and the choreo with those powerful poses and movements!
Jay, if you're reading this, I need to know that your editing style is IMMACULATE. Makes me laugh every. single. time. and I'm not exaggerating. I hope you know how much we all appreciate your work, kudos to you!
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It kinda has a DankPods vibe to it, and that's why I love it so much.
Loved the Hurricane clip XD
Am I the only one who doesn't like them?
I agree with Gabe that Estonia is the best televote bait entry. Its just so perfect and fun and catchy even without knowing a single word in Estonian. I wish they did better with the televote. They deserved like 100+ points in the televotes
50:23 so real, THIS is the only hurricane that should be allowed in esc
For me - Ireland's performance and staging is the best I've ever seen. Someone needs to do a video on every part of it.
A million agreeing!
as an estonian i appreciate it man
Estonia was brilliant
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I didnt realise all the ex Yugoslav countries Qed on Tito's birthday - iconic!
Israel televoting: it was warned long ahead of the contest that there was an organized conspiracy involving VPNs and sim cards, usable in other countries, which explains quite well the insane breadth and number of televotes for such a shitty song.
It almost makes me feel better about the whole thing, knowing that there were some people stubborn enough to waste their actual money on mass voting, cheating, and promoting that song only for it to not even get into top 3. Like... imagine all that organized effort, the whole budget on YT adds, bending the rules. And then you lose to a guy singing about missing his cat and a person making puns about gender.
It makes them look so desperate and pathetic, looking back at the whole context.
In the Netherlands right wing politicians asked their followers to vote for Israel, and they did, that’s why they won our tele-vote
@@MariaMariamuzieklove It's mindblowing, how nationalistic right-wing people are always like: "our country FIRST" and "WE are the most important"... But then they'll literally waste their own money to support other conservative governments or foreigners, just to spite the left or something, when it's convenient. How does it make sense for them to be so loudly "pro-Israel" or "pro-Russia" etc. when they are not from those places? How is throwing money for a different country's gain supposed to patriotic? No moral backbone and consistency with those people...
Gabe - i felt the same about the final split screen - literally win/win.
as a spanish person, seeing someone so passionate about nebulossa just makes me SO happy 🥹
I have to strongly agree with you Gabe. There is no universe where Croatia is a televote baiting/ joke song. Just because it won the televote doesn't change that the goal was to win the whole thing. It doesn't have the necessary silliness or focus on only appealing to the audience that true contenders like Finland and Estonia have. Only looking at the televote results would mean Ukraine and Israel were also 'televote bait'. And I don't think anyone would think that about those songs.
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I think that the most underrated song at Eurovision has to la noia by Angelina mango from 🇮🇹 to be the 2nd most listened to song only beaten by euorpa is crazy and shows how good the song is and I think it would be number 1 if europpa wasn’t disqualified a 7th place and no 12 points is criminal and I also think she has the best chance to become world wide famous bc nemo sinning is ridiculously good but not many people listen to opera and if they keeps that idk how many people would listen to them and joosts music is heavily built for live preforms in my opinion and also hope you are feeling well gabe and class video
Not to diminish Angelina and La Noia, she's an amazing performer with an amazing song. But Italian entries are often on top of the Eurovision streaming charts cause of the popularity of Sanremo in Italy. It's hard to say how much that impacted the ranking. Tho obviously Italy always send amazing entries!
gabe *handshake emoji* me
yapping for hours about the estonians
I loved that split screen moment when you knew it was between Croatia and Switzerland. It was indeed very calming and a big sense of relief.
For good looking people - yup Slimane (not just his looks but his warmth and kindness of his persona) but I'm cool with Bambie and Marina.
25:27 I hundred prosent agree with the balkan guy about Ireland. It's one of those songs that don't work so well outside of the eurovision stage. When I watched the recap of Ireland's national final songs I wanted bambie to go forward mainly because it would be remembered and it would stand out. But I had not prepared for the performance and vocals to be that great compared to eurosong.
honestly the most shocking reveal here was the fact that you're straight LOLLL but anyway thanks for all the nominations for estonia we appreciate it
i met gabe once and he called me a spanner
Love these additions to the video as it is on your own channel now lol.
Here we gooooo
Why does your weird guest keep talking about Estonia?
OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING
Im in canada and Joost just played here, and he's booked shows in the US for next year, so it does look like he's going global!
0:06 Why wasn't this posted on his channel?
Because the first part was posted on his channel. It’s how this works! It’s how they share their veiwership.
@@Eggplant_Emoji No it wasn't. The first video was on this channel as well. And they said at the timestamp that this was supposed to be posted on his channel.
Ukraine was definitely one of the most unique. They mixed Gospel with Rap. How wasn't that unique? Especially for Eurovision? Plus Jerry Heil was by far the most beautiful lady
"it was such a calming moment" no it was not, no matter what, those last seconds are nerve wracking. Every year 😂
Finally Spain is being seen! 👀✨
not shocked luxembourg did better than expected. the song is dedicated to her idf soldier brother and all of the national final organizers were israeli. not shocked if she got a bump from sponsors and the televote from the few israelis that didn't buy extra phones and sim cards to vote multiple times. not that no one else cheats, but this was so blatant and should be punished.
I’m confused why Italy is considered mid-tempo and Greece high-tempo: I think both are mid-tempo. Other than that, I enjoyed your discussion. I may not agree with some choices, but you both explain your reasoning well. I like the song by Spain, even if I feel it was scored properly in the final, but the message is very important.
Croatia is not televote bait
Agreeing with songs that are overrated! Except I also love zorra 😍
Tito was a very much loved dictator, as you said, Amer 😂
I don't think people outside ex Yu area can understand this.
the intro is so kawaii :3
NORWAY GOT OUT OF THE NOMENIES YEEEES 😭
Croatia the Best 😊😊😊😊😊
Croatia is not televote bait lmao, Gabe is right
I like both Spain and Estonia 😅
When they talk about Greece?
48:04 Italy and obviously Israel
Interesting. I agreed with so many things said in this video but this repeated major love you both have for Ramonda is so mysterious because that just did not happen for me. It would be my lowest ranked of the finalists because both the song itself and the staging were so boring.
Talking about my country 🇵🇹
Iolanda made us sooo proud, we in Portugal don't care much about Eurovision like many countries, but making two top 10s in 3 years makes me think we are doing a great job but RTP is doing a stinky job at promoting ESC here and to our emigrants abroad, beyond that they are rubbish in making Eurovision "cool" to the younger audiences.
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As beautiful and amazing a Slimane's performance was, I cant reward such a cliche' and boring song lyric wise as Best Ballad. Best ballad performance? tossup between him, Iolanda, and Teodora
"I looove youuuu, I don't know wwhyyyy! [...] Doooon't you looove meee?"
I despise the lyrics, I'm sorry Slimane. Might be cause my broken french only clocks the most basic phrases but it's so... Whiney 🙈
Great performer and singer! My personal favourite ballad has to be Iolanda, what a strong entry.
I disagree - Je t'aime Slimane.
I agree with you about the lyrics. Honestly, the whole song. Slimane being so incredibly charismatic, charming, and talented, is why the song scored highly. The song itself isn't anything special, and in the hands of many other singers, it would have even been ignored. Slimane is what was special about it, not anything within the song itself.
Amer, my fieind, I grasp how significant it is to you, a Bosnian, of the timing of all those qualifications on such an ironic date. But it cant really be "the biggest moment of the year" when it applies to such a tiny fraction of the viewers/fanbase. Nearly the same thing for that press conference - very view people actually saw that and have any idea what you're referring to.
For that category you really need to look beyond what was a big moment to YOU, and think about the bigger picture - what was a big moment to at least a majority of fans/viewers, if not nearly all. as Gabe mentioned a perfect example would be Latvia qualifying against every prediction. THAT shocked the entire fanbase/expert community.
it's personal awards, that was the biggest moment for me
Okay, giving my HURRICANE QUEENS their flowers as they so much DESERVE
51:07 Digga was ein Disrespect gegen Isaak nur weil er die Sache auf den Punkt bringt Im sorry but thats a scandal I dont like Isaak but his personality is just wow
Gott, was ist das für ein schlechtes Englisch bitte?
Yeah Croatia's televote bait - the call and response, the memable dance and the iconic lines - i sold my cow, meow cat please meow back. That said the Netherlands and Estonia are even more so.
Sorry Balkan guy i hate We Will Rave - that's the equivalent of what Zorra is to Gabe - it doesn't even have a good message. I agree with Gabe - Norway and Estonia were robbed.
Croatia is televote bait. Not a joke entry. But televote bait.
Eh, I don't know him, but Baby Lasagna doesn't seem like someone who'd be calculating like that. To me it seems like he just entered with a song that was fun for him to perform. The televote liking it was predictable but not the main purpose of the song. That's just my impression, of course.
@@emdove I agree. I suppose some people might call something televote bait if there was an intention to appeal to the televoters.
@@emdovesure, i don’t think he calculated more than anyone else, every artist were true to them selves. For example Estonia, Finland, Netherlands, Ireland, it’s just a fact that certain type of music does better with televote than Jory. Croatia is totally televote bait, but I also think he was true to him self even this song seem bit more rockier that his other songs.
@@norax3212 And yet Ireland did better with the jury.
meh, balkan guy... shame - how they all were when eden was performing and both results, poor form.
what
Cry please😍
@@Tylantia Because IMO the delegation and Eden herself deserved it.
As a Spainish FtM, I take high offense to you saying we didn't deserve those points, it was the anthem of all the spanish women and was very emotional to us that it won and made it to eurovision; tho I should expect such disrespect for a man, as you know nothing about how women are treated even by newspapers. Honestly I wish you even faced the one percent of things were subjected to face every single day.