Picked up a Yoga 370, the model before this with a faulty keyboard for next to nothing. Absolutely brilliant machine. Been a Thinkpad user for a long time, started with a T420 and have owned multiple more. Still have my 420. This is probably my favorite one right next to the 420. Other than the faulty keyboard destroyed by the previous owner this machine looks and feels like new after 7 years of daily use. Just cleaned the heatsink and put new thermal paste on it and replaced the keybord, fresh Windows install and she is good as new. Even the battery still holds for hours. The screen is gorgeous and the pen is super nice to use. Whole machine is just superb to work on. Highly recommend picking one up.
The 370 Yoga has upgradable RAM (up to 32GB) on the non-4G modem models. I bought the fastest available CPU variant (i7 7600) from eBay in mint condition for $100 and upgraded it with a 1TB NVME SSD, 32GM RAM and an Intel AX210 WiFi 6e card.
I got x380 .I love x380 its size its pen and its working . No issue in daily use been using it for past two weeks . Just install any software and stop its fan . Like any other laptop .And there will be no heat and give alot more battery life . I m loving it . Its charging is pretty fast ⏩
Second video of yours that leads me to a purchase, bought a X390 6 months ago and now I will buy a X380 Yoga for my wife because her Acer Laptop decided to finally die (5 weeks of me trying to keep him alive my wife finally gave me green light to kill the acer and buy a ThinkPad for her)
I adore the smaller size of X380 yoga (which I remember is not much bigger than 260 yoga), but X1 yoga's 2560x1440 really provides lots of screen estates for multitasking (I use them at 96 dpi), so I have a pair of X1 Yoga now :). WWAN slots on these Kabylake machines actually only provide 1 lane of PCIe channels, so it's much slower than the main 2280 port. My pair of X1Y3s is running with a 2280 512G main SSD, 2242 512G SSD on WWAN for pagefiles and virtual machines, and a 1T microSD for my books and Wikipedia mirrors. The largest SSD that fits in WWAN slot is WD SN520 2242 512G, not because of the PCIe restrction, but because of M.2 slot keying. Newer 2242s using M-keying, which can never fit into that slot. Kabylake-R (i5/7 8th gen on these machines) is super hot, but with ThrottleStop doing undervolting and TDP controlling (25 W seems like a sweet spot), better with Honeywell PTM7950 thermal pad and TPfancontrol, you can squeeze some performance out of these small machines. Only Icelakes and later can truly beat it in Cinebench R15 with the same thread count, product line (U-class SKUs) and chassis size. These CPUs are really heat dissipate restricted, you can even try 45 W TDP and be surprised. Abandoning lift-and-lock keyboards for presumably weight and thickness saving on later Thinkpad Yoga models is really one of the reasons that I may stay on X1Y3 in the foreseeable future (the other reason is X1Y3 and alike is the last platform on which Windows 10 1607 could run without too much hiccup). The only thing different on new Thinkpad Yogas than products from other vendors is the Track Point, and really the Track Point on X1Y3 is with a somewhat worse handle feeling than X1Y1 and before. I do miss the huge rectangle power port. :)
One small thing I forgot to mention. Change the WiFi module to AX210 and let the X1 Yoga Gen 4 and X390 Yoga users drooling with envy. (AX210 helps with 802.11ac networks too, as it's more stable).
How do you like X1 Yoga Gen 5? I love the look of that machine, and recently missed the chance to get one for $200 (with i5-10310U and 8 GB DDR4, albeit with non-working touch panel).
Just picked up an X390 Yoga for 400 CAD, with i7 8665 and 16GB/512GB. Excellent condition and a great piece of tech. Love that it's USBC powered. I use a Thinkpad X1 Extreme for work; can't beat a Thinkpad
The yoga L380 is actually a nice substitute to the x380. It is cheaper, not as good quality, not TB3, no WWAN, but the same screen as the x380. However it is more upgradability as it has 2 ram slots so it can actually support 64gb of ram !
Hello, reading your comment I am interested with the L380 now. But I could not found any mention of L380 supporting up to 64GB of RAM. All mentioned support only up to 32GB RAM. Can you confirm? Thanks
I use it for work since 5 years and I am very happy with this laptop! But just a heads up: The battery lifetime is also nearing its end after 5 years and this will set you back another 70 or 80 Euros/USD.
I'm watching this vid on X380 Yoga right now :) My favourite daily laptop now. Mine has i5-8350U CPU, 16GB RAM (sadly soldered), 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD and I'm using Endeavour Linux now. I even have LTE 3xCA modem here but works in Windows only... Battery is not that great, only 2-3 hours when watching YT but I'm using charrger at home or car anyway.
These are a nice piece of kit. I've been running a 370 Yoga (so prior model, but pretty much the same chassis as this) as my travel machine since late 2017. It's /just/ starting to feel its age a little bit now, but works fine for the light internet/word/movies/light image editing I use it for. Of course it doesn't hurt that the 370 still had socketed RAM, so when I upgraded my home machine I was able to throw one of the old 16GB sticks into the Yoga and give it a cheap boost. And yes, that base is a bit of a faff to get off. I think I've broken at least one clip.
The 370 has single-channel ram sadly. How do you think it's 7th gen cpu manages for office tasks these days? I am thinking of getting a L380 i5-7200u for the ram upgradability and cheap price (£117) or a x380 i5-8250u 8gb for the 4-core cpu and build quality (£160)
@@VV-wl8gb the 7th gen does fine with basic office tasks, and I can still do light photoshop work and run my project planning software on it… though it’s not my primary for any of that, and noticeably slower than something with more grunt (not frustratingly slow, but you just note it took a bit longer). Bear on mind too I’m currently running 16Gb of RAM in mine (temporarily 32Gb, long story), and have so far avoided versions of Office and Adobe that require a subscription, so take that as you will. My work issued laptop also still has 7th gen/8Gb of ram, and bogs down pretty badly with all the extra stuff work puts on it or when opening large spreadsheets, big drawing packs, etc. Part of me would be tempted to go for 8th gen, as I remember it being quite a substantial jump forward at the time, but it depends on what your using it for.
My 370 is totally pimped out. Win 11 installed without any issues and runs perfectly. All updates work fine. I put in 16gb of ram and a very fast Adata SX8200 512gb SSD. And last month I finally got around to putting in an AX210 card for wifi6e. The bottleneck will always be the two-core CPU, but I haven't noticed any difference versus my X380 when using it for work. Gaming is a tiny bit slower on the 370 though. But I love my 370 so much because you simply cannot find it's combination of features anymore like retractable keyboard, swappable ram, and perfectly sized category 13-14 inch laptops. My daily carry is my 370 and 2022 Zephyrus G14 for gaming.
The previous generation of this, the 370 Yoga, has upgradable RAM (up to 32GB) on the non-4G modem models. I bought the fastest available CPU variant (i7 7600) from eBay in mint condition for $100 and upgraded it with a 1TB NVME SSD, 32GM RAM and an Intel AX210 WiFi 6e card.
One of these was issued to me about five years ago. To be honest, I don't like it. It runs hot, the fan is almost always audible, and the battery life kind of sucks. Can't wait until IBM sends that email saying that I'm up for an upgrade.
I can see it meeting some needs better than others. At the time I wonder if some of the higher specs worked as well as they could have with the hardware configuration.
I only see a these ultrabooks being only good for light duty use rather than as an daily driver for a lot of reasons including those you've said. Personally I prefer heavier laptops as that usually solves at least some of the problems that plague the thinner models especially when it comes to thermals and upgrades.
The X1 will probably not upgrade to Windows 11 (without a hack). Usually you need 8th gen cpu, or maybe 7th in some cases. But it does have that nice 2k screen!
Hi , whats the difference between x380 and x390 other than change in weight and dimensions and removal of keyboard dock and lock, does x390 i5 perform more consistently for long use compare to x380? I read some where that in continuous load the x380 performance is dropping but not in x390 is it true?
If I get the chance to see an X390 I'll try and let you know. In the meantime, if you haven't already you may wish to compare the PSREF docs for both devices.
The X1 Yoga Gen 4 has 10th Gen Intel so newer internals and a slightly larger screen size. Port selection is also different I think. Screen options are also different as well.
I bought a refurbished one (8th Gen I7; 16gb) for my life. It cost me 380 euros with 2y warranty. I was looking for this version because of the better screen with 98% RGB and 2000:1 contrast. Recommending finding this version just for the amazing screen. Battery with 13% degradation is good for 5-7 hours screen on time. The processor is downvolting realy nice and its benefiting for more battery life and performance! With no problem you can get -200mv off the chip. Since it has a Windows Pro license I recommending un update to 11 for better battery life. I'm glad choosing this model over Hp Elitebook 1030 G2 for benefiting of nice screen much more performance and integrated Wacom pen. Missing the bare aluminium chassis though ... P.S. It is easier to open the back cover starting from the front size and unclipping to back.
Alright I will always keep you posted. I just bought a Lenovo x380 yoga with 256 SSD,which I feel it is not enough for me,so thts why I was proposing or asking if it's possible to add a second SSD or put in a bigger one.thanks for always replying in time dear
My employer is getting rid of a bunch of laptops including these. I'm on the waiting list to purchase one for the equivalent of $55. Slap Linux on it and I can hand off my current laptop (Ideapad Flex 5, with similar specs) to my wife! For the both of us laptops are not a necessity. My wife barely uses a laptop outside of work (for which she has her work laptop) and I casually use a laptop for watching shows and occasionally for productivity. But I also have a PC and a Steam Deck I can use. And we have an iPad, but for media viewing I would like something that uses their screen a little more efficient. $55 for a 2 in 1? That's no more dualbooting for a serious bargain.
@Thaprill probably will need to be more specific. Lots of different versions of those programs. One thing to note is it does not have a dedicated GPU so if that is needed then you'll need to look at something else.
I'm not an engineer but I'd research the system requirements of the most demanding software you plan to run, then talk to other people that have done or are doing the work you are about to do they can tell you the reality. I know workstation grade units like the P-series are often popular choices since they have dedicated GPUs.
My Touchscreen only responds to my pen and not my finger. I have pen and touch with 10 point Touchscreen and I'm using windows 11 pro .I have ugaded the HID Touchscreen drivers you name it I have done it but no luck. If you have any suggestions I would appreciate you very much
@LaptopRetrospective YES I have .I have used the trouble shooter .Hardware trouble shooting and Commandlines: msdt.exe -id DeviceDiagnostic in the command terminal. I have disabled and re-enable the HID touchscreen driver. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and the list goes on and on lol 😆
@LaptopRetrospective I have upgraded the BIOS when I went to windows 11 and the firmware as well. Everything that could be updated that needed to be was done but will definitely take your advice and try that
@@LaptopRetrospective i see, i looked at the i5 13gen but some people told me even 13 gen i5 would struggle in some applications if the Gpu is intel graphics so might as well look into cheaper options
I have a thinkpad L13 yoga with amd. The bluetooth and wifi keeps disappearing and the only eay to get it back is to restart the laptop, worse part is the that sometimes i had to restart it twice. Did everything they told me on faq. None of it fixed it. Also just a week ago the hinge broke. Its a thinkpad so i thought it was as tough as my previous unit. It was held by only two screws on the screen cover. Not three like on my previous thinkpad. Quality is becoming less thinkpad it seems. Very disappointed
@@LaptopRetrospective funny as i was just replying to your message awhile ago. my bluetooth disappeared. so i instead used the laptops keyboard and trackpad. only to realize my wifi also disappeared. so i hat to reset the device. and wifi returned but bluetooth was still missing. so i had to shut it down and turn it on again. and still bluetooth was missing. this forced me to push the button behind the laptop to disengage the battery to remove all the static left on the laptop. now im back and it all works again. this happens a lot.on my previous laptop, i use to just put my laptop on sleep and i never had any problem with battery draining or wifi bluetooth going missing. i have reported this to lenovo. as its a year old warranty no longer is applicable and i do not have another laptop to use to have it serviced in another country (which will probably take more than a month with the shipping etc) my L13 yoga i believe is the gen 3 with amd ryzen pro 7 . i hope lenovo does listen to complaints. because this is a hardware issue and not software. lenovo is the only laptop company that still seems to keep the buttons for the touchpad and keep the trackpad. so i do hope they improve quality. this is gen 1 th-cam.com/video/s8xS1GzTcfY/w-d-xo.html . it has three screws on the screen. the L13 gen 3 only has 2, the plastic that holds the screw is actually broken on mine. tried searching for replacement online and only found gen 2 gen 1 screen. so im left with one option, super glue. which did work. but i am not comfortable with this solution, so now i no longer fully 360 turn the hinge. i just use it like a regular laptop.
Just bought a 16gb x380 i5 with LTE to replace my iPad Pro 2nd gen and a x270, I'm a developer and sucks that I can't work with code with my iPad. We will see how it will be the performance on this machine.
Ngl, when i started looking at these i was put off by the soldered down ram, but then thought, hey, if its soldered down, at least it'll be loads faster. Just gotta cough up the extra for a 16gb variant rather than 8 and ill be happy
Loads faster due to it being soldered? Haven't heard that before. Main reasons it is normally soldered is to reduce cost and thin out the profile of the machine. That and businesses don't upgrade their existing tech as much as they replace it once the warranty is out.
@@LaptopRetrospective i may need to check my sources but I recall it being a case of shorter paths needing to be travelled when soldered down leading to increased speed. May have been newer soldered ram tech though
If you find those sources please post back the names of the websites or articles. TH-cam gets wacky when people post links sometimes and doesn't post comments with them.
Price? 8th gen is getting old, or every gen is really not comparable after 12th gen and latest amd processors. Old laptops have to fall in price significantly.
I give price ranges at the end of the video. 8th gen will run Windows 11 and if you look at how long people hold onto a ThinkPad on the used market, it's usually a significant amount of time. It's not always about comparable but usable vs cost of new/cutting edge vs needs of the user.
@@LaptopRetrospective yes, exactly, i am myself using T430. However i just want to point out that 12th gen processors and AMD processors are really cheap atm and have significant advantage in performance. In Vienna, for example you can buy new laptop for 750 euro with 12th Intel, and a restored Thinkpad T480 for 450 euro, the difference in performance would be more than triple, so is there any point buying them knowing this? I think prices have to fall significantly.
@@LaptopRetrospective any cpu benchmark site. i7-8650U will get around 6000 points, but any 12th/amd zen 3+ today’s processor will get whooping 19000. Now looking at it, ebay prices are better, but it is usually US, shipment will cost around 50-80 dollars.
I love these Thinkpad Yoga laptops. As the RAM is soldered to the motherboard, you can get stuck with 4 GB of RAM with older models but they could still be useful. Actually, I have a Thinkpad Yoga 12 Gen 2 mounted on the Kitchen wall so I can watch TH-cam videos while making pancakes :) It's still better than Android tablets...
@@LaptopRetrospective Yep :) mounting 14" models is even better because of the bigger screen plus some of those actually have a RAM slot (at least the Yoga 14 does) so you can still have 8GB of RAM.
i'm a simple man. i see a ThinkPad; i click
Sounds like a good existence to me. 😁
Picked up a Yoga 370, the model before this with a faulty keyboard for next to nothing. Absolutely brilliant machine. Been a Thinkpad user for a long time, started with a T420 and have owned multiple more. Still have my 420. This is probably my favorite one right next to the 420. Other than the faulty keyboard destroyed by the previous owner this machine looks and feels like new after 7 years of daily use. Just cleaned the heatsink and put new thermal paste on it and replaced the keybord, fresh Windows install and she is good as new. Even the battery still holds for hours. The screen is gorgeous and the pen is super nice to use. Whole machine is just superb to work on. Highly recommend picking one up.
So glad you've given it another life.
The 370 Yoga has upgradable RAM (up to 32GB) on the non-4G modem models. I bought the fastest available CPU variant (i7 7600) from eBay in mint condition for $100 and upgraded it with a 1TB NVME SSD, 32GM RAM and an Intel AX210 WiFi 6e card.
Whats the battery life on it ?
Whats the battery life on it ?
Just ordered a Yoga myself. It’s been a dream. 💕
Which one did you get?
Thank you so much, your video solved my issues with the bios code on my laptop from my old job
Glad to hear I was able to help.
I got x380 .I love x380 its size its pen and its working . No issue in daily use been using it for past two weeks . Just install any software and stop its fan . Like any other laptop .And there will be no heat and give alot more battery life . I m loving it . Its charging is pretty fast ⏩
Glad to hear it's working well for you.
@@LaptopRetrospective u mean . There sonething wrong with it
Whats the battery life on it ?
I suffer from high temperature when running a light game
Define "light game", it only has integrated graphics.
Second video of yours that leads me to a purchase, bought a X390 6 months ago and now I will buy a X380 Yoga for my wife because her Acer Laptop decided to finally die (5 weeks of me trying to keep him alive my wife finally gave me green light to kill the acer and buy a ThinkPad for her)
They are great machines. The person that this specific one went to enjoys it very much.
Very nice machine, good to see 8th Gen units on the used market at decent prices.
Very decent indeed!
I adore the smaller size of X380 yoga (which I remember is not much bigger than 260 yoga), but X1 yoga's 2560x1440 really provides lots of screen estates for multitasking (I use them at 96 dpi), so I have a pair of X1 Yoga now :).
WWAN slots on these Kabylake machines actually only provide 1 lane of PCIe channels, so it's much slower than the main 2280 port. My pair of X1Y3s is running with a 2280 512G main SSD, 2242 512G SSD on WWAN for pagefiles and virtual machines, and a 1T microSD for my books and Wikipedia mirrors. The largest SSD that fits in WWAN slot is WD SN520 2242 512G, not because of the PCIe restrction, but because of M.2 slot keying. Newer 2242s using M-keying, which can never fit into that slot.
Kabylake-R (i5/7 8th gen on these machines) is super hot, but with ThrottleStop doing undervolting and TDP controlling (25 W seems like a sweet spot), better with Honeywell PTM7950 thermal pad and TPfancontrol, you can squeeze some performance out of these small machines. Only Icelakes and later can truly beat it in Cinebench R15 with the same thread count, product line (U-class SKUs) and chassis size. These CPUs are really heat dissipate restricted, you can even try 45 W TDP and be surprised.
Abandoning lift-and-lock keyboards for presumably weight and thickness saving on later Thinkpad Yoga models is really one of the reasons that I may stay on X1Y3 in the foreseeable future (the other reason is X1Y3 and alike is the last platform on which Windows 10 1607 could run without too much hiccup). The only thing different on new Thinkpad Yogas than products from other vendors is the Track Point, and really the Track Point on X1Y3 is with a somewhat worse handle feeling than X1Y1 and before.
I do miss the huge rectangle power port. :)
Thanks for sharing your experiences and observations! I too have a love for small and compact laptops.
One small thing I forgot to mention. Change the WiFi module to AX210 and let the X1 Yoga Gen 4 and X390 Yoga users drooling with envy. (AX210 helps with 802.11ac networks too, as it's more stable).
Noted!
How do you like X1 Yoga Gen 5?
I love the look of that machine, and recently missed the chance to get one for $200 (with i5-10310U and 8 GB DDR4, albeit with non-working touch panel).
Thank you for the comprehensive review
Hope you found it useful.
Just picked up an X390 Yoga for 400 CAD, with i7 8665 and 16GB/512GB. Excellent condition and a great piece of tech. Love that it's USBC powered. I use a Thinkpad X1 Extreme for work; can't beat a Thinkpad
Excellent find and solid price. 👍
Whats the battery life on it ?
@@thedragoonikingdom3313 I get maybe 5-6 hours watching youtube videos. Probably a couple hours doing more CPU intensive tasks
Thanks for another review on thinkpad legacy lines!
Glad you enjoyed it.
The yoga L380 is actually a nice substitute to the x380. It is cheaper, not as good quality, not TB3, no WWAN, but the same screen as the x380. However it is more upgradability as it has 2 ram slots so it can actually support 64gb of ram !
Noted, thanks for the information.
Hello, reading your comment I am interested with the L380 now. But I could not found any mention of L380 supporting up to 64GB of RAM. All mentioned support only up to 32GB RAM. Can you confirm? Thanks
@revraitah check forums and message boards. When the official documentation was written, it may have predated 32GB modules.
I use it for work since 5 years and I am very happy with this laptop!
But just a heads up: The battery lifetime is also nearing its end after 5 years and this will set you back another 70 or 80 Euros/USD.
Yep, good advice for buying older used machines to save room in the budget for a new battery.
I'm watching this vid on X380 Yoga right now :) My favourite daily laptop now. Mine has i5-8350U CPU, 16GB RAM (sadly soldered), 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD and I'm using Endeavour Linux now. I even have LTE 3xCA modem here but works in Windows only... Battery is not that great, only 2-3 hours when watching YT but I'm using charrger at home or car anyway.
Thanks for sharing your experience. What is the health of the battery in the one you have?
@@LaptopRetrospective 83%, battery not replaced, from end of 2018, I set charging limit to 90%
Nice!
Nice little machine, great review!
Thanks Ted!
These are a nice piece of kit. I've been running a 370 Yoga (so prior model, but pretty much the same chassis as this) as my travel machine since late 2017. It's /just/ starting to feel its age a little bit now, but works fine for the light internet/word/movies/light image editing I use it for. Of course it doesn't hurt that the 370 still had socketed RAM, so when I upgraded my home machine I was able to throw one of the old 16GB sticks into the Yoga and give it a cheap boost.
And yes, that base is a bit of a faff to get off. I think I've broken at least one clip.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the tight fitting clips and the upgradability of the X370.
The 370 has single-channel ram sadly. How do you think it's 7th gen cpu manages for office tasks these days? I am thinking of getting a L380 i5-7200u for the ram upgradability and cheap price (£117) or a x380 i5-8250u 8gb for the 4-core cpu and build quality (£160)
If official Windows 11 support matters to you then the 8th gen is the way to go.
@@VV-wl8gb the 7th gen does fine with basic office tasks, and I can still do light photoshop work and run my project planning software on it… though it’s not my primary for any of that, and noticeably slower than something with more grunt (not frustratingly slow, but you just note it took a bit longer). Bear on mind too I’m currently running 16Gb of RAM in mine (temporarily 32Gb, long story), and have so far avoided versions of Office and Adobe that require a subscription, so take that as you will. My work issued laptop also still has 7th gen/8Gb of ram, and bogs down pretty badly with all the extra stuff work puts on it or when opening large spreadsheets, big drawing packs, etc. Part of me would be tempted to go for 8th gen, as I remember it being quite a substantial jump forward at the time, but it depends on what your using it for.
My 370 is totally pimped out. Win 11 installed without any issues and runs perfectly. All updates work fine. I put in 16gb of ram and a very fast Adata SX8200 512gb SSD. And last month I finally got around to putting in an AX210 card for wifi6e. The bottleneck will always be the two-core CPU, but I haven't noticed any difference versus my X380 when using it for work. Gaming is a tiny bit slower on the 370 though. But I love my 370 so much because you simply cannot find it's combination of features anymore like retractable keyboard, swappable ram, and perfectly sized category 13-14 inch laptops. My daily carry is my 370 and 2022 Zephyrus G14 for gaming.
finally getting mine in a few days.. got it instead of the l380 and x1 carbon all three are around 300 usd
Cool, hope you enjoy it.
where did you find them with that price plz ?
Thank you🌺🙏🌺
You're welcome 😊
Great video! Can you specify the type of the second HDD? Thanks in advance!
It will be a 2242 M.2, the specifics may be in the PSREF or a quick Google search. 👍
I managed to get an x13 yoga gen1 for 200 pounds, really good deal. Only thing is the screen is far too small for 1080p
I've found 1080p a good match but each to their own.
gonna need an upgrade from my x250 soon, this looks good
Let us know what you decide!
Thanks for the review, will you advise a T470s or a X380 yoga at same price
X380. Newer CPU and it's a notable jump.
technically the first "yoga" was the Lenovo S230 Twist. It was a sweet machine at the time.
Was the Twist classified as a Yoga? That mechanism goes back to the X41T
@@LaptopRetrospective I don't know what it was called but I'll make a quick video about it. once I get it unglued and working
Unglued?? 😂
The previous generation of this, the 370 Yoga, has upgradable RAM (up to 32GB) on the non-4G modem models. I bought the fastest available CPU variant (i7 7600) from eBay in mint condition for $100 and upgraded it with a 1TB NVME SSD, 32GM RAM and an Intel AX210 WiFi 6e card.
Not bad at all. Especially if you can get away without 8+ gen Intel.
@@LaptopRetrospective sadly, I think the 370 was the last in the Yoga series to feature upgradeable/non-soldered RAM.
I bought x380 yoga today a used one , great condition. 512 gb storage, 16gb ram , i7 8th gen, windows 10pro with 1 month warranty for Rs.30000 India
Cool. 👍
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One of these was issued to me about five years ago. To be honest, I don't like it. It runs hot, the fan is almost always audible, and the battery life kind of sucks. Can't wait until IBM sends that email saying that I'm up for an upgrade.
I can see it meeting some needs better than others. At the time I wonder if some of the higher specs worked as well as they could have with the hardware configuration.
I only see a these ultrabooks being only good for light duty use rather than as an daily driver for a lot of reasons including those you've said. Personally I prefer heavier laptops as that usually solves at least some of the problems that plague the thinner models especially when it comes to thermals and upgrades.
Sound reasoning.
How does this compare to the newer x13? In terms of both portability and performance
Also image quality
Hope to tell you soon. I have a X13 G2 to review.
How is this in sunlight? The screen looks very reflective.
It has good brightness and contrast. The new owner hasn't mentioned any issues reading the screen.
I appreciate how you respond to all of your subscribers.
Could you please advise me on which one I should buy?
< Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga (198$) used (I guess it is G1) >
-cpu: i5-6300u 2.50GHz
-ram: 8
-gpu : intel hd520 graphics
-storge : 256 ssd
-screen and size : touch screen 2 in 1 Laptop 14.0 inch (2560x1440)
-battry: 4-cell (56wh)
-came with a pen
< Lenovo ThinkPad X380 Yoga (220$) used >
-cpu: i5 8th gen
-ram: 8 DDr4
-gpu : Intel UHD Graphics 620 GPU
-storge : 512 ssd
-screen and size : touch screen 2 in 1 Laptop 13.3 inch (1920 x 1080) IPS
-battry: 4-cell (51wh)
-came with a pen
The X1 will probably not upgrade to Windows 11 (without a hack). Usually you need 8th gen cpu, or maybe 7th in some cases. But it does have that nice 2k screen!
Would it be better to go for an X1 Carbon 2nd gen or the X380? Both are at similar used prices here in the UK
X380, no question. The G2 Carbon is pretty old.
I have the x380 for almost 9 years now and I am very happy with it. Time has come to switch the battery and now it won’t recognize it :/
Swapped it out with an aftermarket battery that may not be very good?
Bought original battery from Lenovo, even bought a 2nd one because I thought the battery was damaged
Strange it wouldn't recognize an authentic battery.
Hi , whats the difference between x380 and x390 other than change in weight and dimensions and removal of keyboard dock and lock, does x390 i5 perform more consistently for long use compare to x380? I read some where that in continuous load the x380 performance is dropping but not in x390 is it true?
If I get the chance to see an X390 I'll try and let you know. In the meantime, if you haven't already you may wish to compare the PSREF docs for both devices.
@@LaptopRetrospective thanks for replying ❤️
No problem!
I have a 4th gen X1 yoga.. what's the main differences between that and this one? Thanks for the video btw
The X1 Yoga Gen 4 has 10th Gen Intel so newer internals and a slightly larger screen size. Port selection is also different I think. Screen options are also different as well.
Can i use x380 yoga for gaming and engineering
This is not a gaming laptop. Set your expectations accordingly.
what type of storage is used in the wwan slot?
You might want to give this a read: www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/hm0w7s/nvme_in_thinkpad_yoga_x380_wwan_slot/
Sad that only the L380 features non-soldered RAM. Otherwise, the X380 is great. Thanks for the video.
You're welcome!
L380 / L390 & L480 / L490 offer a lot of value for little money : gen 8 cpu (win 11!) and upgradable ram. Only the screen is a bit less.
Is 8GB enough for photoshop and web editor?? Thank you
For modest projects it should be fine.
I bought a refurbished one (8th Gen I7; 16gb) for my life. It cost me 380 euros with 2y warranty. I was looking for this version because of the better screen with 98% RGB and 2000:1 contrast. Recommending finding this version just for the amazing screen.
Battery with 13% degradation is good for 5-7 hours screen on time.
The processor is downvolting realy nice and its benefiting for more battery life and performance! With no problem you can get -200mv off the chip.
Since it has a Windows Pro license I recommending un update to 11 for better battery life.
I'm glad choosing this model over Hp Elitebook 1030 G2 for benefiting of nice screen much more performance and integrated Wacom pen. Missing the bare aluminium chassis though ...
P.S. It is easier to open the back cover starting from the front size and unclipping to back.
Nice buy, the two years of warranty is great as well.
Tiny11 might just squeeze out even more battery life, so you might want to check that out too!
is the stlylus good for note's taking for students
I'd think so.
Is it possible to add a second SSD to this laptop, because mine less ssd of 256.i want more storage
Best bet if a WWAN slot won't do is to just replace the drive. 256 can be cloned over to a bigger one then swapped out.
Thank you
Keep me posted on your progress. 👍
Alright I will always keep you posted. I just bought a Lenovo x380 yoga with 256 SSD,which I feel it is not enough for me,so thts why I was proposing or asking if it's possible to add a second SSD or put in a bigger one.thanks for always replying in time dear
My employer is getting rid of a bunch of laptops including these. I'm on the waiting list to purchase one for the equivalent of $55. Slap Linux on it and I can hand off my current laptop (Ideapad Flex 5, with similar specs) to my wife! For the both of us laptops are not a necessity. My wife barely uses a laptop outside of work (for which she has her work laptop) and I casually use a laptop for watching shows and occasionally for productivity. But I also have a PC and a Steam Deck I can use. And we have an iPad, but for media viewing I would like something that uses their screen a little more efficient.
$55 for a 2 in 1? That's no more dualbooting for a serious bargain.
Crazy good price!
I have the same one.mine cost like between 150.00-200 Canadian
Good purchase. 👍
please tell me about this pen nib issues 😢
Can you give us more information?
Is it good for a engineers programs ?
Depends on the programs and their system requirements. Have any specifics?
@@LaptopRetrospective Like AutoCAD
And 3D programs ?
@Thaprill probably will need to be more specific. Lots of different versions of those programs. One thing to note is it does not have a dedicated GPU so if that is needed then you'll need to look at something else.
@@LaptopRetrospective Do you recommend any laptop that can run engineering programs?
I'm not an engineer but I'd research the system requirements of the most demanding software you plan to run, then talk to other people that have done or are doing the work you are about to do they can tell you the reality. I know workstation grade units like the P-series are often popular choices since they have dedicated GPUs.
Is the display glossy or semi-glossy? Thanks!
The video shows it off in spots. I wouldn't say it's the glossiest panel I've ever seen, but definitely not matte.
@@LaptopRetrospective Appreciated!
My Touchscreen only responds to my pen and not my finger. I have pen and touch with 10 point Touchscreen and I'm using windows 11 pro .I have ugaded the HID Touchscreen drivers you name it I have done it but no luck. If you have any suggestions I would appreciate you very much
You run Lenovo System Update?
@LaptopRetrospective YES I have .I have used the trouble shooter .Hardware trouble shooting and Commandlines: msdt.exe -id DeviceDiagnostic in the command terminal. I have disabled and re-enable the HID touchscreen driver. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and the list goes on and on lol 😆
Have you tried using it in the BIOS or booting a live Linux USB to see if it's related to the operating system or if it is a hardware failure?
@LaptopRetrospective I have not that's a good idea. I will try that
@LaptopRetrospective I have upgraded the BIOS when I went to windows 11 and the firmware as well. Everything that could be updated that needed to be was done but will definitely take your advice and try that
What’s the size of ssd in this
The 2.5" or the NVMe? I know the max size officially supported in the 2280 is 512GB and I suspect that has to do with the cover and clearance.
can you tell me how many cameras are there in yoga380? IS there any camera at the corner of screen please telll me?
Cameras in the corner of the screen? Nope.
@@LaptopRetrospective can i email you a picture of laptop? Can you check it ?
@@LaptopRetrospective how can i email you the picture of laptop?
You can contact me via my website or my social media handles.
just paid £120 for i5 8th gen 256gb 8gb ram windows 11 worth it or not
Doesn't sound unreasonable. Regional pricing varies across the world.
Between a ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 6 ($278) & Thinkpad Yoga X380 ($317), which one do you prefer?
Both got i7 8th gen with 16gb + 256gb.
Oh that's a tough one. I'd probably lean towards to the Carbon.
Can you still change the battery on these?
Yes, it isn't a hot swap like 10 years ago but it can be removed with just a Phillips screwdriver.
@@LaptopRetrospective thanks man! That is good to know
But what kind of ssd drive is it? nvme? sata3? bkey? m+b key?
For the details, I recommend the PSREF link in the description. 👍
would i be able to play games on it? like minecraft, roblox ect..
Light gaming is possible, check your system requirements.
X380 or t490s ? Which 1 better
That's really going to come down to personal preference, configuration and price.
My x380 windows 11 cannot autorotate, can anyone giveme a solution with that?
Have you run Lenovo System Update?
Is it possible to change the video card of the thinkpad x380 yoga?
No, having a laptop where you can do that is pretty rare.
The only laptop i know where you can change the graphic card is a framework laptop and i don't think that product is out yet
There are some older computers from the mid 2000s that had GPU modules but definitely not common.
can i upgrade the ram to 16 if i bought the 8gb one
RAM is soldered so you will need to swap the whole system board.
Can i5 8th gen run windows 11 and is it good for 1080p video editing?
16gb of ram
Yes and yes. Keep in mind complex projects will be taxing, simpler ones less so.
@@LaptopRetrospective i see, i looked at the i5 13gen but some people told me even 13 gen i5 would struggle in some applications if the Gpu is intel graphics so might as well look into cheaper options
Depending on how you render projects, yes that would be a factor.
@@LaptopRetrospective much appreciated for your help mate 🤝 I'll test that laptop tomorrow in that shop and decide
You're welcome, glad you can check it out before you buy. Very handy.
I have a thinkpad L13 yoga with amd. The bluetooth and wifi keeps disappearing and the only eay to get it back is to restart the laptop, worse part is the that sometimes i had to restart it twice. Did everything they told me on faq. None of it fixed it.
Also just a week ago the hinge broke. Its a thinkpad so i thought it was as tough as my previous unit. It was held by only two screws on the screen cover. Not three like on my previous thinkpad. Quality is becoming less thinkpad it seems. Very disappointed
The L is built to a different price point than the X series. How old was it?
@@LaptopRetrospective funny as i was just replying to your message awhile ago. my bluetooth disappeared. so i instead used the laptops keyboard and trackpad. only to realize my wifi also disappeared. so i hat to reset the device. and wifi returned but bluetooth was still missing. so i had to shut it down and turn it on again. and still bluetooth was missing. this forced me to push the button behind the laptop to disengage the battery to remove all the static left on the laptop. now im back and it all works again. this happens a lot.on my previous laptop, i use to just put my laptop on sleep and i never had any problem with battery draining or wifi bluetooth going missing. i have reported this to lenovo. as its a year old warranty no longer is applicable and i do not have another laptop to use to have it serviced in another country (which will probably take more than a month with the shipping etc)
my L13 yoga i believe is the gen 3 with amd ryzen pro 7 . i hope lenovo does listen to complaints. because this is a hardware issue and not software. lenovo is the only laptop company that still seems to keep the buttons for the touchpad and keep the trackpad. so i do hope they improve quality.
this is gen 1 th-cam.com/video/s8xS1GzTcfY/w-d-xo.html . it has three screws on the screen. the L13 gen 3 only has 2, the plastic that holds the screw is actually broken on mine. tried searching for replacement online and only found gen 2 gen 1 screen. so im left with one option, super glue. which did work. but i am not comfortable with this solution, so now i no longer fully 360 turn the hinge. i just use it like a regular laptop.
Is it good in 30k Indian rupees..? 8gb/256ssd ? i7/8th gen
I can't speak to local pricing.
@@LaptopRetrospective same as 380 dollar..
Seems about right then.
Just bought a 16gb x380 i5 with LTE to replace my iPad Pro 2nd gen and a x270, I'm a developer and sucks that I can't work with code with my iPad.
We will see how it will be the performance on this machine.
Keep us posted. 👍
Ngl, when i started looking at these i was put off by the soldered down ram, but then thought, hey, if its soldered down, at least it'll be loads faster. Just gotta cough up the extra for a 16gb variant rather than 8 and ill be happy
Loads faster due to it being soldered? Haven't heard that before. Main reasons it is normally soldered is to reduce cost and thin out the profile of the machine. That and businesses don't upgrade their existing tech as much as they replace it once the warranty is out.
@@LaptopRetrospective i may need to check my sources but I recall it being a case of shorter paths needing to be travelled when soldered down leading to increased speed. May have been newer soldered ram tech though
If you find those sources please post back the names of the websites or articles. TH-cam gets wacky when people post links sometimes and doesn't post comments with them.
Price? 8th gen is getting old, or every gen is really not comparable after 12th gen and latest amd processors. Old laptops have to fall in price significantly.
I give price ranges at the end of the video. 8th gen will run Windows 11 and if you look at how long people hold onto a ThinkPad on the used market, it's usually a significant amount of time. It's not always about comparable but usable vs cost of new/cutting edge vs needs of the user.
@@LaptopRetrospective yes, exactly, i am myself using T430.
However i just want to point out that 12th gen processors and AMD processors are really cheap atm and have significant advantage in performance. In Vienna, for example you can buy new laptop for 750 euro with 12th Intel, and a restored Thinkpad T480 for 450 euro, the difference in performance would be more than triple, so is there any point buying them knowing this?
I think prices have to fall significantly.
Triple the performance? What measurement are you using?
@@LaptopRetrospective any cpu benchmark site.
i7-8650U will get around 6000 points,
but any 12th/amd zen 3+ today’s processor will get whooping 19000.
Now looking at it, ebay prices are better, but it is usually US, shipment will cost around 50-80 dollars.
You have me curious, what specific benchmark site are you using? I'd like to see how they are calculating their points.
I love these Thinkpad Yoga laptops. As the RAM is soldered to the motherboard, you can get stuck with 4 GB of RAM with older models but they could still be useful.
Actually, I have a Thinkpad Yoga 12 Gen 2 mounted on the Kitchen wall so I can watch TH-cam videos while making pancakes :) It's still better than Android tablets...
That's an awesome solution. I believe the minimum these came with is 8GB so they learned their lesson about 4GB. 😂
@@LaptopRetrospective Yep :)
mounting 14" models is even better because of the bigger screen plus some of those actually have a RAM slot (at least the Yoga 14 does) so you can still have 8GB of RAM.
Excellent stuff!
nice
Sure is.
also, linux support isn't great :(
When the hardware gets unique, support can be hit and miss, sad but the reality.
Why use an old and underperformed laptop in 2023?
Whether it underperforms or not is up to the user. I know the new owner is very happy with it for what they need.
@@LaptopRetrospective but battery life
Is fine?