I'll be 69 years old this November & still listening to John since 1971...Miles, him, Jaco, Zawinul, Cream & Hendrix have created the sounds of the last 50+ years... musical genius and cool modest soul (well, minus Miles :)
AMAZING. After a physically exhausting day I opened a bottle of saison beer and I somehow wanted to watch a live music show (which I don't do often). I was totally blown away by this music and performance. Wow. McLaughlin is a legend and this band is beyond amazing.
Guess what, I'm 55 and started listening so many years ago. To my shame I have never seen him live BUT today got tix for a hot seat at Ronnie Scott's where he is playing in march '17. Can't describe my excitement.
Second that. Lucky enough to talk to John, Zakir and Selvaganesh backstage after a gig in Kendal in 2000. They'd just finished what must have been a punishing Remember Shakti gig, yet they chatted to my friend and I for a good 20 minutes. My friend was looking for a guitar teacher, and asked John if he gave lessons. John said he wasn't giving lessons at that time, but asked where my friend was from. Devu said 'Bombay', to which John replied, 'I know some teachers in Bombay', and gave him some addresses. After which he let me have a photo with him, and they left to go back to the hotel. A kinder bunch of world-class musicians it'd be hard to imagine.
I was lucky and saw them at the Montreux Jazz Festival - 50 edition this year. Wow - mind blowing see the master play and exceptional musicians - and what a bass player E. M`Bappe. I drove home - whith the amazing music still in my head - next day I bought the Boston Record - Stunning
planets danny I sometimes feel the same way, but my faith in John's talent makes listen and re-listen, and I often find the beauty or structure on his playing I may not have seen at first. But lyrical and slow it often isn't. Pat Metheny is my usual lyrical, occasional fast guitar music guy.
There ARE melodic lines in his solos! Just not the norm, mainly cause he's WAY above all other guitarists and is operating on a level most people, and I DO mean musicians, don't understand! That is NOT my opinion! Just a stone cd fact!!🎼🎻🎸🎹🎶🎵
Same for me. Just turned 59. Still enjoy listening to John. Started around 15 as well. Saw him live once with Chick Corea and the 5 peace band about 15 years ago(taking a guess here, time flies)
I had to stop during a red light today while in my car listening to Clap Your Hands from the Black Light album (recorded when McLaughling was 73 I believe). In front of me there was this elder people sitting on a bench in this park... The contrast was simply sick.
Some of these comments get down right ugly over which guitarist is better. The fact is they all studied the same music theory and developed different styles. I prefer JM over anybody. My technique was developed by studying JM's music so I am biased. But my humble preference doesn't make him the best in the world, although I believe he is. :)
JOHNNY BARTEE Amen. And personally, I don't think I'd ever feel comfortable posting negative or demeaning comments about any artist. Whether you like an artist or not, we're talking about their livelihood, possibly their life's passion. None of them deserves to read demeaning comments about their work, I think you'd agree.
It's fantastic to see John return to his original playing style! His tone is back, he is bending the strings, he is making that guitar squeal again. Best of all, he had finally abandoned his attempts to be a bebop guitarist :)
There is some absolute shredding going on here, very cool! The guy is always so interesting to listen to. His music now might not have the edge of 1970s JMMO, but his solos still do.
thanks for the continued search, one of the most amazing journeys in music ever!!!! keep on pushing the envelope!!! look forward to next years tour!!!!!!!! a guitar and group supreme!!!
Spiritual energy, the non religious kind is at play here, where John connects directly to the universe for this genius level that transcends physical boundaries. It is reason his music is not fully understood by many. There is no comparison and a person can only grasp this level of musicality if they are an ascended soul, e.g. Jesus, John McLaughlin, Michael Brecker, Ursula Rucker and other old souls reincarnated here to show people how its done.
I love John McLaughlin. He comes from my home town, I met him once. My Brother in law even owns one of Johns guitars. John sold it to his Dad so he could have enough money to move to the States and my brother in law inherited it when his dad died . John reminds me of artists like Picasso. who learned how to paint realistic looking art and got board. then just started doing his on own thing. John know how to play straight Jazz but he has to do his own thing. Listening to John McLaughlin is like scratching an unbearable itch.
sure you have to be a musician to love this music ! a master ! i like these fast licks and the strange sound he plays ! some guys i know they hate his sound lol ! but this is his sound on an electric guitar ! not so many musicians who have their own sound ! sorry im not english ...i do my best !
There is no other voice from stringed instruments like John's. He captures every age, every era, every style, with superlative skill. I pray that he one day discover the glory of "Jesus Christ and him crucified." For only the Creator of All could redeem us from a world of hurt.
31:29, free handed Gary Husband visualizes the beat. so much happiness. (Gary is on keyboards, but can serve, as well, as Mclaughlin's - Or Allan Holdsworth's - drummer...)
Was just reading Pete Townshend's auto biography and just learned that John McLaughlin talked him into buying one of his first fender pro amps. Inspired me to check him out! This is fucking sweet
Back to the Nightimers eh John!! with your Parker riffs on top .......Gomelski started something. I thought I''d look you up - it's a long way from Pandora Road but I like where you've landed!! Best wishes Pete
@muzizlife OK muziz here IMO is a mighty psychedelic snapshot of everything JM has created - his Coltrane compostion style, his note clusters laid as though tiles on the steps of a grand staircase - that radical instrument and amp tone, via Dunlop pedal I believe, which is close enough to Electric Guitarist LP for me - his phrasing way on the backbeat - other tunes are arranged classic be-bop combo fashion - and the drummer this time the baddest of all Ranjit Barot gets to star, as in every JM band - there's a drum duet with the leader Shocking, how flash this JM group. This has the abandon & ecstasy of One Truth 78 or Mahavishnu 75 - and this stage line-up is actually his last. Among the messages I took as I giggled with delight at this tape: the life divine, is yours & mine.
I bought The Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame (1971) - Full Album when I was about 17 when it first came out . Everything was affordable back then . The lp only cost me about four bucks . Live concerts for top acts was like 5 to ten bucks . In 1974 the minimum wage was $2.22 an hour but you could live on it because cost of living and inflation had limits on them . The inflation today is artificial . Its because corporations and the robber barons of today have no limits on them and they don't pay their fair share in taxes, and so on . All of us have limitations and that is correct and right because we are only human . But for the corporations and fat cats there is no limit on their wealth addiction and the tax codes are a game that only the super wealthy can beat because they got the money for the tax lawyers to exploit all the loopholes for them. If you adjusted that 2.22 for inflation and cost of living you'd need a minimum wage of 20 to 25 bucks an hour . If we did that , the greedy would just raise cost of living and inflation . The people don't run the governments in this neoliberal economics world . The corporations and the robber barons run our governments and militaries . Noblesse Oblige is dead . That French term roughly translated means from those who have much , much is expected back to the society .
Im with you on some of what you say but the real reason for inflation is pretty easy actually - money has no real value as it did pre 1972 ish - when the dollar left the gold standard. The fed from 2009 to 2016 printed out of thin air almost a trillion dollars per year - moved it into the economy to sustain the market as they say - what did they call it? quantitative easing…just print it - and for all the years prior with the oil cartel of OPEC running the price of oil fixed to the world - controlling it like a monopoly, restricting the true market flow of supply and demand really shifted everyones economic reality. Gas was .33 cents a gallon in the US until 'bout '79 when it went to 66. cents or so then over a dollar in 80,81 and on and on. - of course in europe it was far more expensive due to they way it was taxed. Add to that the fact that a large part of the population did not use cars made the market cost a lot different than in the US. (The US and Europe were the 2 biggest economies sans Japan in those days right? The oil embargo effected the record industry right - due to oil being used to make records…Music was the 6 largest industry in the world back then…we had to buy records to get music …what a concept… Corporations, the coming together of individuals to co-operate and build and sell products that are needed is a natural event really but it is the way governments effect the population and distort the markets artificially that causes the biggest problems. Give to ceaser his due but don't have ceasar over burden the producers and take too much - otherwise the producers will stop producing - then what? Let the man create, let him play - and let him get paid - and pay his dues righteously and invest where needed and we all will be in a better place right? Each persons mental and physical worth is all we have to monetize and put value to - we cant just go and print money and use it. Lets all find a real balance somewhere between liberty and creativity in society.
I am a guitarist. I was an understudy of Ray Gomez, an amazing guitarist in his own right (the only times I took lessons). I found this an interesting conversation. I find it interesting how, when people are very into something, it always has that my way or the highway feel to their conversations. I heard McLaughlin at a girlfriends house. Her name was Mary and she was from NY. She knew John. At the time, I was very into Hendrix. When I heard John, I was amazed at his clarity. I ran through his then existing catalog which was small. I love all music, so I was impressed he played on In A Silent Way and Bitches Brew. I could hear In A Silent Way had influenced his direction an playing. His release Extrapolation gave no clue as to what was to come. After meeting Sri Chinmoy and spending a lot of time meditating and playing all that was known on guitar over and over while meditating, he took on an understanding of playing nuances and dynamics that few achieve. HIs pivotal Inner Mounting Flame was to make a new direction for all guitarists to venture into, including Holdsworth. John has remade his sound so many times and has been remarkable at doing so. Holdsworth, while being a great guitarist in his own right, seems to wander around chromatic a lot, using a lot of chromatic scaling to get to from A to B. It is impressive, but not as impressive as John is. I have seen him live from a few feet away. There is no comparison. When you listen to something like My Goal's Beyond, Inner Mounting Flame and Electric Guitarist, then listen something like Secrets, it is obvious how much of an influence John was on Allen. I took my then wife to see the Maestro (Andres Segovia), prior to him passing away. It was amazing. The same with McLaughlin. We are lucky that this time that we are here again, that us reading these conversations have had the chance to see such great players as McLaughlin and Holdsworth. But to say that John is a distant second shows short vision. If you see what he is playing, it's not smoke and mirrors, but note per note hit and run notes that express a fire inside of him. This comparison is like pitting VanHalen to John. There is no comparison. Acrobatics VS music.
It's wrong to compare JM and AH. They are both different kinds of musicians. AH is indeed a very unique guitarist to the extent that he invented his own style, including harmonic whereas JM is steeped in elements of Jazz, Blues Rock and obviously the huge indian influence on his music. Nothing wrong with prefering one over the other as they are very distinct. But it's wrong to say one is better than the other and extremely foolish to say that if you can't play acoustic then you can't play guitar. A person is a musician before they are anything and it should be know that AH also plays the violin. So yorkshire (great britain) is famous for three things. Allan Holdsworth, John Mclaughlin and beer.
Sad that we would argue about two great guitarists instead of looking at what they have contributed to music and to players who endeavor to be great. But, I like Arnab's ending, "Stop taking yourself, and everything else, so seriously! Cheers and peace!" Thanks Arnab. No two people see a painting in the same vision and no one knows what the artist was seeing anyway, so yes, life is too short to be so serious.
Always get a kick out of the fashion senses of these guys. Two most valuable wrists in music history and my idol JML wears a simple rubber band on the right one. What a cool cat!
Robert Dore good question but i get the comparison. I hear it too. Whammy bar touches. See JM and JB together could produce some very interesting music.
No, Jeff Beck was influenced by Jan Hammer, who in turn was influenced by McLaughlin. So it's actually Jeff Beck's sound that should remind us of John McLaughlin.
A great musician. One of my favorite through my close to 70 years of life. However, melodic coherence sometimes difficult to find out. Frank Zappa told once that JM is the living example that someone can play a guitar like a machine gun. Some truth in it.
Same here Michel.....I will be 59 in one week....Ive seen JM many times here in s. fla. he is a treasure ...every generation has its heroes...JM ..Steve Howe ..page santana allman betts the list goes on oh yeah wes tal farlow lennon harrison....sorry Im digressing......nice to share this earthtime with these guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Oh yeah, and my family too....!
I love John's ole guitar sounds, acoustic & electric the ole tube amps , I am the generation after the baby boomers & if you are a guitar player that loves the sounds from that generation, Jeff Beck, Frank Zapper, masters at their sounds of expressions in their tone selection, the new high tech computer micro digital is being used to reprogram those ole guitar sounds & it's not really the essence of the sound anymore, the substance of the purity is gone, so I guess I understand most of the new generation won't understand the essence of that ole school stuff, in those days you have to be really creative to find your sounds including music arrangements, groups like BLOOD SWEAT & TEARS! YES! etc.....Great Talent of bands of the time. It's all gone, really I miss that!
Shieldyreyes.....the gloves are a special ultra-thin and light material which allows for tremendous sensitivity and simultaneously protecting the players fingers from friction, moisture and pressure. I’ve seen only a handful of bassists use them but they are simply a preferential thing for the few!
I'll be 69 years old this November & still listening to John since 1971...Miles, him, Jaco, Zawinul, Cream & Hendrix have created the sounds of the last 50+ years... musical genius and cool modest soul (well, minus Miles :)
Me to bro I’m 65
AMAZING. After a physically exhausting day I opened a bottle of saison beer and I somehow wanted to watch a live music show (which I don't do often). I was totally blown away by this music and performance. Wow.
McLaughlin is a legend and this band is beyond amazing.
Once again, no cliche-I continue to go to McLaughlin for something I've never heard before. Thanks John, all your bands and band-mates!
Amen Brother!!!!
I'm 59 years old & still listening John...start at 15! Isn't it cool?
52 and also started about 15. It has been rewarding to follow such an eclectic and inventive career. I love his music. That's all I can say.
Guess what, I'm 55 and started listening so many years ago. To my shame I have never seen him live BUT today got tix for a hot seat at Ronnie Scott's where he is playing in march '17. Can't describe my excitement.
Michel Bernard first heard John play on bitches brew....
For me was ''Extrapolation''...& after Mahavishnu of course!
Aloha gents first time for me was Maha Vishnu orchestra at the Whiskey a go go
Garry Husband ,Piano and drums ,a fantastic phenomenal musician
Good enough drummer for Holdsworth, good enough keys for Mahavishnu John. Not too many can claim that feet...
His skills with keys raised my eyebrows... I had to check who the heck was playing there🤘🤘
one of the nicest guys ive ever met,even invited me to his home,legend
Second that. Lucky enough to talk to John, Zakir and Selvaganesh backstage after a gig in Kendal in 2000. They'd just finished what must have been a punishing Remember Shakti gig, yet they chatted to my friend and I for a good 20 minutes. My friend was looking for a guitar teacher, and asked John if he gave lessons. John said he wasn't giving lessons at that time, but asked where my friend was from. Devu said 'Bombay', to which John replied, 'I know some teachers in Bombay', and gave him some addresses. After which he let me have a photo with him, and they left to go back to the hotel. A kinder bunch of world-class musicians it'd be hard to imagine.
My God John is so gifted what a truly amazing musician. The guys in the band are just so awesome. They play as One.
Thank goodness for youtube. Started listening to John at age 12. It was a vital transformation, that would continue through my life.
Thank you gais for special music! It's music forever շնորհակալություն Ջոն ես քեզ լսում եմ 35 տարի
This is proof that John still has it and the band is great.
I'm 54 years old & listening John...start at 20! and yeah this is very very cool
I saw him with Paco de Lucia and Larry Corryell in Madrid, 1979, Wow!
Faa amigo si que tuviste suerte, tres grandes en un concierto, eso no se ve todos los días.
you're so lucky
John McLaughlin
Fantastic oeuvre. God keep it long.
74 and still kicking butt!!
talent rust never sleeps
like a fine wine
I was lucky and saw them at the Montreux Jazz Festival - 50 edition this year. Wow - mind blowing see the master play and exceptional musicians - and what a bass player E. M`Bappe.
I drove home - whith the amazing music still in my head - next day I bought the Boston Record - Stunning
I'm looking forward to the concert of JohnMcLaughlin & 4th Dimension and Alan Parson Project at the Montreux Jazz Festival this year, July 11th.
sometimes it s hard to find the melodic lines of John McLaughlin solos, but he s one of the greatest jazz rock musician of the century, band fantastic
Maybe we'll hear one before he drops his guitar?
Then you ain't listening.
planets danny I sometimes feel the same way, but my faith in John's talent makes listen and re-listen, and I often find the beauty or structure on his playing I may not have seen at first. But lyrical and slow it often isn't. Pat Metheny is my usual lyrical, occasional fast guitar music guy.
There ARE melodic lines in his solos! Just not the norm, mainly cause he's WAY above all other guitarists and is operating on a level most people, and I DO mean musicians, don't understand! That is NOT my opinion! Just a stone cd fact!!🎼🎻🎸🎹🎶🎵
England-Cameroon-France-India...the shit that happens when cultures and influences meld this way.
Same for me. Just turned 59. Still enjoy listening to John. Started around 15 as well. Saw him live once with Chick Corea and the 5 peace band about 15 years ago(taking a guess here, time flies)
Thanks, John!!! You `re incredible!!! I love you!!!
I had to stop during a red light today while in my car listening to Clap Your Hands from the Black Light album (recorded when McLaughling was 73 I believe). In front of me there was this elder people sitting on a bench in this park... The contrast was simply sick.
Some of these comments get down right ugly over which guitarist is better. The fact is they all studied the same music theory and developed different styles. I prefer JM over anybody. My technique was developed by studying JM's music so I am biased. But my humble preference doesn't make him the best in the world, although I believe he is. :)
JOHNNY BARTEE Amen. And personally, I don't think I'd ever feel comfortable posting negative or demeaning comments about any artist. Whether you like an artist or not, we're talking about their livelihood, possibly their life's passion. None of them deserves to read demeaning comments about their work, I think you'd agree.
There aren't enough thank you's in this world to convey.
Wow. JM and the 4th Dimension continue to get better. More nuanced, less frenetic, very tuned in to each other.
Thanks for posting!
I am noticing this too.
YouzTube99 this is like his best group he's had recently
@Rey Gonzalez
Agreed. The more I listen to their performances, the more I hear and appreciate what they do.
It's fantastic to see John return to his original playing style! His tone is back, he is bending the strings, he is making that guitar squeal again. Best of all, he had finally abandoned his attempts to be a bebop guitarist :)
There is some absolute shredding going on here, very cool! The guy is always so interesting to listen to. His music now might not have the edge of 1970s JMMO, but his solos still do.
thanks for the continued search, one of the most amazing journeys in music ever!!!! keep on pushing the envelope!!! look forward to next years tour!!!!!!!! a guitar and group supreme!!!
Looking forward to seeing John November 2017 NYC ! Been a huge fan since the 70s .Saw him years ago at Stony Brook University !
Yes at 61 I was also listening to J.McL in the Mahavishnu back in 1970 when Inner Mounting Flames was brought out, I was 13 !!!
mahavishnu introduced me to new format jazz/rock mahaishnu orchestra birds of fire ooooh
Gary husband is so good !
SEEING HIM TOMORROW NIGHT IN PORTLAND, OR...CAN'T WAIT!!
JM me hace llorar.
Pura Clase.
Fusion Hero.
As good as it gets and still evolving, still seeking the edge.
Excellent. On ne fait pas mieux Super morceau
Really wonderful....
Spiritual energy, the non religious kind is at play here, where John connects directly to the universe for this genius level that transcends physical boundaries. It is reason his music is not fully understood by many. There is no comparison and a person can only grasp this level of musicality if they are an ascended soul, e.g. Jesus, John McLaughlin, Michael Brecker, Ursula Rucker and other old souls reincarnated here to show people how its done.
I love John McLaughlin. He comes from my home town, I met him once. My Brother in law even owns one of Johns guitars. John sold it to his Dad so he could have enough money to move to the States and my brother in law inherited it when his dad died . John reminds me of artists like Picasso. who learned how to paint realistic looking art and got board. then just started doing his on own thing. John know how to play straight Jazz but he has to do his own thing. Listening to John McLaughlin is like scratching an unbearable itch.
Fantastisch !!!!!!!!
sure you have to be a musician to love this music ! a master ! i like these fast licks and the strange sound he plays ! some guys i know they hate his sound lol ! but this is his sound on an electric guitar ! not so many musicians who have their own sound ! sorry im not english ...i do my best !
I was going to post the same comment! I like his sound/tone, it's processed, but it's not a generic over-distorted tone, it has its own character.
Amazing as always
Dear Michael same here and am going to see him at Ronnie's next month - cant wait.
There is no other voice from stringed instruments like John's. He captures every age, every era, every style, with superlative skill. I pray that he one day discover the glory of "Jesus Christ and him crucified." For only the Creator of All could redeem us from a world of hurt.
Gary McAleer lol
I'm 54 and John is great
that guitar sounds so pure.
I actually cannot stand his tone on this. Its like he has a really fast chorus or tremolo, or delay on it.
Etienne Mbeppe on bass? With black silk gloves??
prelijepo nice
Einfach geniale Musiker!!!
Gary on keys!! awesome perfomance. (he's a drummer, if you didn´t know)
ex level 42 drummer, but what a keyboardist!
I'm sure Gary would simply call himself a MUSICIAN :-)
Yes, he's awesome - I believe Gary's first instrument was the piano, though - just like Jack DeJohnette and Kirk Covington.
This is special music! Thenk yu gais
57 and still listening
thanx
Lovely
31:29, free handed Gary Husband visualizes the beat. so much happiness.
(Gary is on keyboards, but can serve, as well, as Mclaughlin's - Or Allan Holdsworth's - drummer...)
37:43 Getting up from the Keyboards to the Drums.
MClaughin, demuestra que los años no pasan para el. EXCEPCIONAL
"remember shakthi" is my first ever cd bought with my fist ever salary.
Terrific
Coming to the Florida Theater in Jacksonville, the day after Thanksgiving. Two tickets to paradise.
Was just reading Pete Townshend's auto biography and just learned that John McLaughlin talked him into buying one of his first fender pro amps. Inspired me to check him out! This is fucking sweet
Is John McLaughlin at his peak yet? I doubt it. He just seems to get better and better!!!!!!!!!
his goals beyond
His fast picking is definitely better in older age than in the 70s, he's continued to drive himself forward.
Back to the Nightimers eh John!! with your Parker riffs on top .......Gomelski started something. I thought I''d look you up - it's a long way from Pandora Road but I like where you've landed!! Best wishes Pete
E' sempre un grande!!
old cosmic blues master🤟🏼
@muzizlife
OK muziz here IMO is a mighty psychedelic snapshot of everything JM has created - his Coltrane compostion style, his note clusters laid as though tiles on the steps of a grand staircase - that radical instrument and amp tone, via Dunlop pedal I believe, which is close enough to Electric Guitarist LP for me - his phrasing way on the backbeat - other tunes are arranged classic be-bop combo fashion - and the drummer this time the baddest of all Ranjit Barot gets to star, as in every JM band - there's a drum duet with the leader
Shocking, how flash this JM group. This has the abandon & ecstasy of One Truth 78 or Mahavishnu 75 - and this stage line-up is actually his last.
Among the messages I took as I giggled with delight at this tape: the life divine, is yours & mine.
I bought The Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame (1971) - Full Album when I was about 17 when it first came out . Everything was affordable back then . The lp only cost me about four bucks . Live concerts for top acts was like 5 to ten bucks . In 1974 the minimum wage was $2.22 an hour but you could live on it because cost of living and inflation had limits on them . The inflation today is artificial . Its because corporations and the robber barons of today have no limits on them and they don't pay their fair share in taxes, and so on . All of us have limitations and that is correct and right because we are only human . But for the corporations and fat cats there is no limit on their wealth addiction and the tax codes are a game that only the super wealthy can beat because they got the money for the tax lawyers to exploit all the loopholes for them. If you adjusted that 2.22 for inflation and cost of living you'd need a minimum wage of 20 to 25 bucks an hour . If we did that , the greedy would just raise cost of living and inflation . The people don't run the governments in this neoliberal economics world . The corporations and the robber barons run our governments and militaries .
Noblesse Oblige is dead . That French term roughly translated means from those who have much , much is expected back to the society .
Im with you on some of what you say but the real reason for inflation is pretty easy actually - money has no real value as it did pre 1972 ish - when the dollar left the gold standard. The fed from 2009 to 2016 printed out of thin air almost a trillion dollars per year - moved it into the economy to sustain the market as they say - what did they call it? quantitative easing…just print it - and for all the years prior with the oil cartel of OPEC running the price of oil fixed to the world - controlling it like a monopoly, restricting the true market flow of supply and demand really shifted everyones economic reality. Gas was .33 cents a gallon in the US until 'bout '79 when it went to 66. cents or so then over a dollar in 80,81 and on and on. - of course in europe it was far more expensive due to they way it was taxed. Add to that the fact that a large part of the population did not use cars made the market cost a lot different than in the US. (The US and Europe were the 2 biggest economies sans Japan in those days right? The oil embargo effected the record industry right - due to oil being used to make records…Music was the 6 largest industry in the world back then…we had to buy records to get music …what a concept…
Corporations, the coming together of individuals to co-operate and build and sell products that are needed is a natural event really but it is the way governments effect the population and distort the markets artificially that causes the biggest problems. Give to ceaser his due but don't have ceasar over burden the producers and take too much - otherwise the producers will stop producing - then what? Let the man create, let him play - and let him get paid - and pay his dues righteously and invest where needed and we all will be in a better place right? Each persons mental and physical worth is all we have to monetize and put value to - we cant just go and print money and use it. Lets all find a real balance somewhere between liberty and creativity in society.
Do not be under any illusions, Mr. Mclaughlin is the greatest guitarist Britain has ever produced.
JOOSE So what if a person only plays an acoustic guitar but not an electric? Does it still mean they can play the guitar?
There are many great ones,,but there is no best!
I am a guitarist. I was an understudy of Ray Gomez, an amazing guitarist in his own right (the only times I took lessons). I found this an interesting conversation. I find it interesting how, when people are very into something, it always has that my way or the highway feel to their conversations. I heard McLaughlin at a girlfriends house. Her name was Mary and she was from NY. She knew John. At the time, I was very into Hendrix. When I heard John, I was amazed at his clarity. I ran through his then existing catalog which was small. I love all music, so I was impressed he played on In A Silent Way and Bitches Brew. I could hear In A Silent Way had influenced his direction an playing. His release Extrapolation gave no clue as to what was to come. After meeting Sri Chinmoy and spending a lot of time meditating and playing all that was known on guitar over and over while meditating, he took on an understanding of playing nuances and dynamics that few achieve. HIs pivotal Inner Mounting Flame was to make a new direction for all guitarists to venture into, including Holdsworth. John has remade his sound so many times and has been remarkable at doing so. Holdsworth, while being a great guitarist in his own right, seems to wander around chromatic a lot, using a lot of chromatic scaling to get to from A to B. It is impressive, but not as impressive as John is. I have seen him live from a few feet away.
There is no comparison. When you listen to something like My Goal's Beyond, Inner Mounting Flame and Electric Guitarist, then listen something like Secrets, it is obvious how much of an influence John was on Allen. I took my then wife to see the Maestro (Andres Segovia), prior to him passing away. It was amazing. The same with McLaughlin. We are lucky that this time that we are here again, that us reading these conversations have had the chance to see such great players as McLaughlin and Holdsworth. But to say that John is a distant second shows short vision. If you see what he is playing, it's not smoke and mirrors, but note per note hit and run notes that express a fire inside of him. This comparison is like pitting VanHalen to John. There is no comparison. Acrobatics VS music.
It's wrong to compare JM and AH. They are both different kinds of musicians. AH is indeed a very unique guitarist to the extent that he invented his own style, including harmonic whereas JM is steeped in elements of Jazz, Blues Rock and obviously the huge indian influence on his music.
Nothing wrong with prefering one over the other as they are very distinct. But it's wrong to say one is better than the other and extremely foolish to say that if you can't play acoustic then you can't play guitar. A person is a musician before they are anything and it should be know that AH also plays the violin.
So yorkshire (great britain) is famous for three things. Allan Holdsworth, John Mclaughlin and beer.
Sad that we would argue about two great guitarists instead of looking at what they have contributed to music and to players who endeavor to be great. But, I like Arnab's ending, "Stop taking yourself, and everything else, so seriously! Cheers and peace!" Thanks Arnab. No two people see a painting in the same vision and no one knows what the artist was seeing anyway, so yes, life is too short to be so serious.
maravilha da alma...
LOVE
THE Master
I love that early tune in the set when John is just playing that repetitive funk riff !
Fantastico
Always get a kick out of the fashion senses of these guys. Two most valuable wrists in music history and my idol JML wears a simple rubber band on the right one. What a cool cat!
I love the Indian beats
Godlike !!!!! ♥️JM
Hia best work since Mahavishnu!
Only thing missing is Mike Stern comping in the background to fill out the painting and spill out just enough onto the frame...
words can not be spoken .... im speach less
Space space and more space!
Otherworldly!
this guitar sound reminds me jeff beck :)
Or...was that the other way around???
Robert Dore good question but i get the comparison. I hear it too. Whammy bar touches. See JM and JB together could produce some very interesting music.
baptistedu54psn you're right. They have common roots. JB was often playing pieces written by Jan Hammer. But Hammer was part of JM's bands.
Their tone is a bit similar as well. Both guitar masters :)
No, Jeff Beck was influenced by Jan Hammer, who in turn was influenced by McLaughlin. So it's actually Jeff Beck's sound that should remind us of John McLaughlin.
Dazzling!!!
Shakti was the first concert i ever saw.
Got my tickets. Manchester.
WAW.....
In this, John McLaughlin is a 55 year old 76 year old!
popular music is where it's at
michael gonzales that’s unfortunate
Why are you trying to be Jeff Beck? You don't have to, you're fkn John McLaughlin the greatest!!
A great musician. One of my favorite through my close to 70 years of life. However, melodic coherence sometimes difficult to find out. Frank Zappa told once that JM is the living example that someone can play a guitar like a machine gun. Some truth in it.
I do not understand why 29 souls marked thumbs down.
Easy....they listen to Justin Beiber
Úmmm...they have no taste and don´t understand music. At all.
God on Earth
супер
Same here Michel.....I will be 59 in one week....Ive seen JM many times here in s. fla. he is a treasure ...every generation has its heroes...JM ..Steve Howe ..page santana allman betts the list goes on oh yeah wes tal farlow lennon harrison....sorry Im digressing......nice to share this earthtime with these guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Oh yeah, and my family too....!
hahahahaha these “shreds” videos crack me up!
oh shit wait
I feel the same... love some Mahavishnu stuff but this was pretty discombobulated to my ears...
24:20 Mother Tongues
■Dear Mr,John McLaughlin Did You Know Jeff Beck?
My greatest influence but he needs a little more edge to the sound. Always inspirational, to say the least.
I love John's ole guitar sounds, acoustic & electric the ole tube amps , I am the generation after the baby boomers & if you are a guitar player that loves the sounds from that generation, Jeff Beck, Frank Zapper, masters at their sounds of expressions in their tone selection, the new high tech computer micro digital is being used to reprogram those ole guitar sounds & it's not really the essence of the sound anymore, the substance of the purity is gone, so I guess I understand most of the new generation won't understand the essence of that ole school stuff, in those days you have to be really creative to find your sounds including music arrangements, groups like BLOOD SWEAT & TEARS! YES! etc.....Great Talent of bands of the time. It's all gone, really I miss that!
Why is the bass player wearing gloves?
Shieldyreyes.....the gloves are a special ultra-thin and light material which allows for tremendous sensitivity and simultaneously protecting the players fingers from friction, moisture and pressure. I’ve seen only a handful of bassists use them but they are simply a preferential thing for the few!
Is that a PRS? Should I get a PRS ? :)
Is it my impression or are they all wearing a watch?
Transcriptions anyone?
bass player Etienne M'Bappé is amazing ! Be so grateful if someone can tell me why he wears gloves . Please reply any and all !
His sweat is very acidic and drastically reduces the string life and tone