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Costco vs Trojan 6 volt
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มิ.ย. 2018
- In this video we revisits the Trojan 6 volt Pacer model mfg in California. We find the Trojan Pacer has a long life for an inexpensive price. We discuss the various applications the Trojan Pacer is acceptable for. Not as robust as the Trojan T-105, the Trojan Pacer is built for more longevity when compared to other inexpensive 6 volt batteries.deepcyclebatterystore.com/gol...
Hi, you made a good source of information about 6v battery, but next video don't add music as background, it's annoying...or low the level of the music. Thanks for your help.
Great video! Thanks for taking my call today. Very educational.
Franklins Tower. Nice.
And thanks for the battery info, also.
The people complaining about the music messing with their equilibrium don't appreciate a "Freebie." Thanks for the battery info.
Turn off the music, thank you, want to hear u not the music.
Why do so many video makers think they need to play music? The music sucks.
I have traveled full time in our rig for over 4.5 years using two 6 volt Interstate batteries with our solar and they are still running strong.
Escape Pilot - Since you do not state your *Daily* Depth-of-Discharge, that makes your statement meaningless. This video about severe 80% DOD ...
I love the Grateful Dead. I also am grateful for your video. It helped a lot.
Thank you for your knowledge
@Berry McGregor - Did he state his source of this so-called "knowledge"? Or is he a Trojan salesman?
Nice GD you got me going at my night job in Mississippi. 5/17/2021 😎✌️
I like the music!!
Can you share the source for the laboratory testing for the Trojan and JCI Interstate battery? When you say a lifecycle of 500 cycles or 300 cycles are you stating to 80% of initial capacity?
discharge and recharge cycles to 20% state of charge
There is no laboratory. He works for Trojan
I'm looking at the T-105 vs the Costco battery. The reports on the Costco site for the Interstate battery are all negative. What's your take on the bad reviews. Thanks, didn't the music.
Thanks for Franklin's Tower ⚡
Dude, anyone who plays Franklin's for their videos immediately has my approval and appreciation. 😊
Yep I noticed that to.. Jerry👍🏻🍻
Any reviews on The Battery Source batteries? seems a lot of people are selling carts with those batteries in it.
Whats you best price all in shipping and everything for 8 trojan pacers?
This is not an advertisement by a battery dealer at all! No bias in any way, shape, or form. :)
You prolly dont give a shit but if you're bored like me atm you can watch all of the new series on InstaFlixxer. I've been watching with my brother for the last couple of weeks :)
@Myles Silas Yup, I've been using InstaFlixxer for years myself =)
Wast it 80$ back then. The prices quadruple since then
How much is the price NOW ,, ???? per battery , i need 4 , for my rv
with the trojan, inparticular the T105 does the 80% discharge still apply when two are wired to 12v or does this then revert them to 50% recommended depth of discharge ?
Very same question I've been seeking the answer to. Have you found a definite answer yet?
It's a bit difficult to understand what you're asking. I'm assuming you're asking if you wire two trojan 6-volt batteries in series to supply 12 volts will it affect the maximum recommended 80% discharge rating. the answer is no since they are in series the total capacity would be 210AH at 12 volts.
A single 6-volt battery would be 210 amp hours at 6 volts by stringing two 6 volt batteries in series you double the voltage but retain the same capacity. if you wire two 6 volt batteries in parallel you double the battery banks amp hour capacity but retain the 6-volt rating
Either way you retain the same nominal wattage capacity.
12x210=2520 watts
6x420= 2520 watts
Dan Nelson yes it was the charge cycle figure in 12v configuration I was interested in.
Series and parallel voltages I’m familiar with 👍
@@ajpepe72 its the same DOD no matter what
I think it was 600kw*hr rather than 600kw. and 400 kw*hr (for costco). So, a unit of total energy rather than total power.
If you believe his numbers, without any URL links to each manufacturers "%DOD vs Cycle" graphs. And who discharges down to 80% DOD ( only 20% remaining ) ???
Good to know
I have no idea what the "lifetime power" means in the math section - power is a rate, not an amount of energy. What seems most relevant are the number of cycles in a battery lifetime and the amp hours extractable upon reaching 80% discharge. Are the battery amp hour ratings saying how many amp hours can be drawn upon reaching 80% discharge?
That's what lifetime power is. . . AH * USABLE CYCLES*VOLTAGE=LIFETIME POWER. It's a bit more than just capacity of a fully charged battery. It also takes into account how well/many times a particular battery will cycle from discharged to charged before replacement.
If two 6v batteries are connected in series and one battery develops a defect, will the current return to 6v or hover somewhere between 6v and 12v?
a 6V battery is actually three 2V cells in series inside, and a 12V battery is six 2V cells. If any one cell dies, the battery is generally dead and should be recycled. Also, current is measured in amps , not volts.
I just am dubious of your prices mentioned 80.00 a battery? Where are you getting only 80.00 ? 440.00 is the lowest I can find for the Trojan
@Kenton Ward - No, the price for a Trojan Pacer T-605 6V is *NOT* $440.00 ...
JERRY!!!😎
Thanks for the info. Hi, I'm looking at the US2200 XC2 vs Trojan T-105. Which one should be better for a golf cart? Also, is there T-105 Plus?
Looking up the history of both batteries they seem to last equal to 232 amp power us battery probably has a 30-minute discharge rate advantage over the t105 both are strong batteries mfg in usa
I don’t deep discharge my golf carts on the boat past 50%. I wonder what the results would have been if you had done your comparison down to 50% depth of discharge. 80% really would tax the plate grids. But given similar price, it would seem Trojan would be the better buy where you are. In Canada, I think the Trojans are quite a bit more expensive. BTW, that should be 630kwh and 417kwh for total energy (not power) for the life of the batteries. You forgot to propagate the “hours” unit.
@SVaramoana - Assuming his "facts" are valid. Did he supply the source of the data ?
Do NOT Buy Trojan Batteries!!! Here's Why.
Enough of the music already!
We’re comparing the competition to what we sell - take a wild guess which one wins?
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Do you have a outlet in the Utah Idaho area? Your cost on the trojan is better than I can find near this area
Sorry we do not and currently Trojan has a severe backorder situation
I've been getting a year plus on four costco batteries in a bank for 24v. Its warranty is my main reason. 1 year return no questions asked. My inverter only discharges the batt. To 80% before alarm. Ive had a couple last 2 years. But mostly around a year.
Thats not that good,,,only a year or 2 ? Then replace them again? Lot of money
This unsubstantiated claim made in the video is actually a reason not to buy from this company.
@@milliondollar2981 Something is severely wrong if he gets only 1 YEAR with a discharge down to 80% SOC. BUT, if it a discharge down to 80% DOD, every day, then 356 cycles is correct !
@@MrSummitville yeah if he did 50% yea
Trojan Pacer is made to complete with the inexpensive golf cart battery market. Go with the Trojan T-105 golf cart batteries, you will get 5 years of life and no problems vs. 3 years with the Duracell, Exide, Crown, and Interstate golf cart batteries.
Do NOT Buy Trojan Batteries!!! Here's Why.
Jesus Christ!!! The music!!!
Anyone have good luck with interstates on a golf cart? I've heard about 3 years life compared to 5 years from Trojans. But now trojan is making interstates they say, any input will be appreciated
I change mine every 3 years no matter. Plus they’re 1/3 to 1/4 cost so yes I run the cheap ones.
Do NOT Buy Trojan Batteries!!! Here's Why.
are the cycle life ratings based on nameplate data or from some results?
@leecyrille - NOTE: He did *not* name his source. I would only trust an independent testing lab. Data from manufacturers, for lifetime CYCLES are usually not obtainable in the real world.
There is no absolute or definitive answer to the question asked. Every person who shares info like this is a 3rd party individual sharing info we civilians can't get from the manufacturers. They share some info and cloak other stuff in marketing BS. I personally thank this fellow for what he shared. Each guy tries to summarize and dumb down the complex subject. They are not battery test engineers who test not only their own on performance but most others well. Costco like WallyMart contract with the battery manufacturers and didictste the price point. The manufacturer has to meet it to get the contract. Then the engineers go back to redesign that battery so they not only meet the price point but make the margin (profit) to stay in business. They can only squeeze their suppliers for cheaper raw materials like lead, the most expensive item in a battery. Or they can take out material, lowering the performance. I don't know if WallyMart still does this but they did this to the more expensive dlsr's they sold with the same model number as name of the manufacturer like Cannon. Walmart's was cheaper than what you thought was the same model from another source. But those identical cameras were not identical. The Wallmart camera was cheapened down either using less robust components or materials, etc.
So. . .he's right on as far as he ever could be according to you.
Why do BOTH graphics at 1:45 (500 cycles) and 2:15 (300 cycles) have "Trojan 6 Volt" listed at the top?
Yeah he has the graphics wrong.
What is the difference between the T105 and the Pacer?
The Trojan Pacer is a weaker battery.
Love the tunes....Who doesn't want to listen to Jerry Garcia while learning about batteries!!
Johnson controls also make delkors
Nice compare 👍
Annoying with the music 👎
Why music at all!?
Yeah mate sorry. I could only handle 3 minutes of that video before that music started screwing with my equilibrium. That music is way too loud and just plain ridiculous. Its a shame cause the info was handy.
Love the tunes! Ignore the haters!
I cannot find any information on where to buy a trojan pacer battery like you talk about. Is there another name for that model?
At HIS store ...
Both your comparisons were labeled Trojan btw. Where do you get that Costco is only 300 cycles?
Hello how is Maintenance of gel batteries for deep cycle gel???
Charge with GEL battery parameters (available from mfg) discharge no more than 80% DOD
Excuse me, that's Franklin bro lol
JCI is not the manufacturer of that battery
Music was distracting
Great video totally enjoy the music which song was that and where can I get download it
Grateful Dead - Franklin's Tower.
Grateful dead never suck!
stopped by today after watching video - Pacer is now almost $20 higher than shown in the video.
Jim
Trojan infomercial. Check the advertisement sign on the right! Trojans are great, but this is NOT an unbiased review.
bro whats up with the music lol
Good video. But it is kWh, not kW.
Please fact check this with interstate. My interstate rep states that jci no longer makes the Costco interstate branded batteries and that in fact Trojan now makes the batteries for interstates 6v line. Trojan has been making them for almost 18months now for interstate
You are correct. We reached out to Trojan to get specs on current battery sold at Costco to do analysis. We will do a new video on the Costco /Interstate
@@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego Hello Mr. Deep Cycle, what's your opinion on the Sam's club DURACELL batteries...they cost 97.00 each 6vlt.....thank you sir
@@DeepcyclebatterystoreSanDiego Thanks for the confirmation. Heading to Costco tomorrow!
great video thanks! could do without the loud music though.
@Ben Furitin - Where is the source for these so-called *facts* ?
junk
music takes away from your message, very annoying, other than that this vide is informative.
If I have to listen to that music, then you should have to drop that battery repeatedly on your foot,
Had to cut your presentation short because of the over volume music.
Good lord the music is so loud I can't hear what you're saying
Hillbilly music is as loud as you... It's called "background music" for a reason...
When I saw all of the comments complaining about the music I thought people were just whining. I made it to 2:15 and had to stop the video. I appreciate you trying to compare the two batteries to help consumers, but the music is too much.
Good information. Get rid of the background music it was an annoying as hell
More Dead please, don't listen to these dudes!! Hahaha
What
I like the information. Very informative. But Please kill that music. It is very distracting and does not make your video more entertaining it actually takes away from your presentation. Just a thought.
Broom the music. Please........
Please remove your back ground music
Funny Trojans here are twice that price American greed or remans
You are welcome ...
Dead,...Morning Dew?
Franklin's Tower
Your graphics incorrect bozo. You have the Trojan listed both times.
He is Trojan dealer. He needs to keep advertising Trojan as their quality drops ...
Background music made this unwatchable
The music is annoying so i stopped watching your vid.
Judith is annoying
The music SUCKS, SUCKS, SUCKS, and still SUCKS.
At the beginning of the video I said I wasn’t gonna say anything about the music. But it got so freaking annoying I can’t focus on your important information 👎🏼 could you pls get rid of it. Thanks
Far too long and incredibly irritating music in the foreground.
annoying music. Please stop playing music with your videos.
BS If you go to 100% discharge any lead acid battery will die young.
@Solexx X - He is comparing two different batteries at the *same* severe DOD. You clearly do not understand this video...