I agree. Traditional Cadillac model names from yesteryear, like the Eldorado, Seville, Coupe/Seadan DeVille, Fleetwood, etc are far better, that these "Euro-style" Alpha-numeric monikers , like CT-5, C66 etc. It doesn't provide the car with the property identity that it deserves !!
Yeah I miss the old names like deville and seville and fleetwood and brougham. They are now going to have the lyriq optiq and I can’t remember the other two but they are the same weird naming scheme as the lyriq. Mystiq? I don’t remember haha
Cadillac is king! ... I’ve had a BMW, Lexus , and most recent a Mercedes ... they just don’t do it for me , I purchased the Cadillac CTS v sport and wow it’s just amazing !
Just found a Unicorn. 2019 CT6-V Blackwing with 24k miles on it. In Shadow Metallic too. 10/10 showroom condition. Super lucky. I sell Cadillacs and a GM Executive traded it in for a 2022 CT5-V Blackwing. I'll never hit the lotto but every now and then the universe opens up and gives me a lil taste and my new car is it. It's so sick. Still can't believe it. Happy driving yall!
Steering feel and chassis tuning has been GM's forte, I mean really been one of the best since the ATS came out in 2013. I really hope GM will at least use this hand built dream of an engine in the upcoming Z06
CT6s are exceedingly rare in the upper class areas of Charlotte, NC. The Germans still reign supreme (when it isn’t a crossover that is), but I saw a CT6 the other day and it was pretty striking. I don’t know if my money would be spent here, but I’m excited that Cadillac makes a very convincing argument with this car.
This engine was developed by a 3rd party contractor. GM had more of a refining role in development. The first prototypes arrived in late 2015, and as far as resources went, this was far from the budget you think it was, much testing was done with salvaged parts and pieces from failed prototypes. We actually took the blocks out to machine shops to have the shrapnel cleaned out when they failed so we could re-use the blocks since we had no way of getting more. I don't know what the plan was from the beginning but it certainly wasn't profit or volume.
A certified future classic when you consider that the modern Audis and BMWs have lost so much of their inherent character with forced aspiration and the production run is so tiny, although AMG conversely seems to have struck a winner with their 4.0. A shame that the CT6 has only come into fruition so late into its production run and is effectively discontinued outside of China. Hopefully this engine can make its way into the likes of the Escalade and other GM vehicles. For the price hard to pass the likes of the W222 or A8 though. As a European, I'm not massively familiar with Cadillac as a brand but this grabbed my attention from over the pond! Great Review!
I don't know who keeps telling people this car is discontinued because it's not. This engine won't be in the Escalade unless it gets detuned with a boost in torque.
@@lilbuddylee131I believe that production ended February this year in non-Chinese markets to make way for plant retooling of upcoming Cadillac EVs although I may be wrong
Concur totally. I cannot afford one now. But were I to acquire the money - THIS would be my first car treat. Yes, there are other also wonderful vehicles, some which are 'more' or possibly 'better' in various, narrow points of view, but THIS one would be the perfect overall car for me.
I sold Cadillacs for a year. They suffered from an identity crisis. The sales program was based on competing directly against the Germans, especially BMW. We got one of the first XTS sedans in our region and the sales manager made it a point that we needed to pitch it as an American series 7. The CTS-V was described as "better than an M5" None of it made sense to me and when I sold them, I never brought up competition, just to try to sell the merits of the car. The XTS was a sales failure (they had very high hopes for it) and the CTS-V was always a low numbers car. It was a sad as approach on their part
Can't wait to see the reviews on the CT5-V Blackwing! Upgraded performance over this car, but with a lighter chassis! I will say that the CT6 is probably the best looking of the CT series though. Very elegant.
Too bad that fabulous old XLR is no longer in play. This engine...In that frame beefed up of course...The convertible that cadillac should have made...could have made...Wishing it was still made...
"Other GM cars"= 2022 C8? I continue to be perplexed by how Americans continue to pay well over 100K for BMW and AMG "performance" sedans, while sending to the grave American sedans. I would not touch a Panemera or an AMG. Their rate of depreciation is horrendous, and maintenance is outrageous. Sad to see the demise of the American sedan in the horizon. I'm 60, and I remember riding in our neighbor's in 1971 Conti. A Caddy and Continental were the epitome of luxury. Don't get me wrong, I would not buy either today. A 2020 Lexus LC500 convertible would be my choice. Gorgeous, great build quality, and an even better V8 than the 4.2 Blackwing V8 in the Caddy.
What are you talking about? There is a CT4 and CT5 blackwing both available with a manual transmission and big power. In fact, none of the new caddy sedans are EV?
I will never get to own a ct6 blackwing. So I’ll be happy with the 3.0 TT. Really sucks they built this motor to basically kill it off after putting it in one model for just couple years. I love the northstar V8’s and man I would’ve loved this V8 too!
I was hoping that you'd do a review of this car at some point. The CT6 was always a good car in search of a great engine. And like the Allante before it, it got the engine it needed right before it got axed. The Road and Track article from Jun 18th speaks the in the most detail I've seen on the subject. Why was the CT6 discontinued in the States (still available in China)? Why after Cadillac decided to shift to EVs did the Blackwing V8 even see the light of day? My opinion is that we are still seeing the after effects of the GM bankruptcy in 2009, which like a tsunami caused catastrophic waves through the organization that are still being felt. After the axing of Pontiac, Olds, Saab and Saturn, there were still barely enough funds to operate and continue with new product. We would have seen the C8 mid-engine Corvette years ago had it not been for that so we got the C7 instead. Opel was sold off so goodbye Buick Cascada and the end of a Buick/Opel relationship that dates back to the late 60s (my late father and his sister both had Opel Kadetts...his sister still had hers but is hasn't run in 30 years). And as for Cadillac, I remember my friend who owns the local Caddy dealership show me slides of future product John de Nysschen had promised the dealers. The road map was a complete fleshing out of all of their product holes. But some of those cars either didn't see the light of day or ended up different than the original vision (the XT6 was supposed to be an Omega-based car...instead we got something half-assed based on other existing GM product). There is supposed to be a mid-engine sports car Caddy based on the C8 Corvette somewhere....hell, a keyfob was even leaked to the press. Will we ever see that halo car? At this point I have my doubts. This car was supposed to have gotten the Blackwing V8. The CT5 Blackwing should have gotten that engine too but we've been told not to wait up for it. And I consider it to be marketing malpractice to the upcoming 2021 Escalade didn't feature this engine as a differentiator for the Tahoe and Yukon products. Why isn't the Blackwing in the new 'Slade? No more money for engineering? Who knows. Could Cadillac have sold a ton of them at high profit? Absolutely. You know me as a huge Cadillac fan. I've driven six of them in my adult life. I really want the CT6 Blackwing as a daily but that's not going to happen. But it still should be on sale. As it stands, there are a few scattered around the country on dealer lots languishing when they should be marketed as a flagship product. I hope the EV products finally get this right. Because it looks from where I sit like they took a lot of the available engineering dollars from products currently in the showrooms for a promise in the new 1-4 years.
From everyth8ng GM has said this engine won’t fit in the corvette. The CT5 v whatever is supposed to get the 6.2 supercharged V8. I hate to say I can see GM being dumb enough to waste the money on R&D. They did it in the CT6 chassis.
10:59 Fun fact its 2022 and Caddi only used this powerplant for the 2019 & 2020 model year CT6 Plat and V. Still not seen on ANY car anywhere. What a waste of R&D dollars. I think personally they developed this state of the art engine at the very last moments until the entire company said omg we need to move to BEV asap. Stupid but there it is. So they dropped the line. Odd thing is the CT5 V doesn't use this. Instead it uses the 6.2L...but why? Id say they didn't have the tooling but they did, the engine ran for 2 production years. So why? I dunno.
Thanks MotoMan! All 9 builders of the 4.2 Twin Turbo Blackwing V8 in Bowling Green, Kentucky (Chris Dillon, Todd Good, Justin Haynes, Durek Neblett, Steve [Stephen] Stinson, Brian Walker, Kathy Walker, Charisse Walters, and Jennifer Cline) are normal, decent people who do their job with pride and humility . . . a credit to GM and their country.
The blackwing program was cut, as was the omega chassis. All signs point to complete discontinuation, so don't hold your breath on seeing that V8 again.
The CT6 I never really understood, why not continue making the inside the nicest Cadillac. They never refreshed the interior and to call it V with the XT5 steering wheel has always been hard for me imagine. To give you an example the M5 has a different steering wheel over the regular one. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised since the only Cadillac that I know of that got a interior update was a SRX.
MotoManTV btw no body does it like you. Something as simple as the cover of the engine, no body that I seen do a video on a black wing pointed that out. I’m curios how different this engine runs compared to my LT1
Isn't it weird that of AAALL the American brands that have existed in the last 100 years - CADILLAC (!) is the one that finally makes good driving cars! Well - they've been at it for a while now, but still. The number one brand for those needing a rolling plush sofa is the one that make sharp handling sport sedans!? :D
What a waste. You're correct on both counts. 1) Rumor has it the engine will end up in the Corvette, not the Escalade, not the CT5-V (6.2SC) & not the CT4-V (3.6TT). 2) They built just under a 1000 CTS V Wagon with 3 pedals. As always, excellent work, M.
Yes it is a granny car. I proudly own a 2018 CT6 Blackwing and get offers from the dealership and random people often. It's a big body Cadillac that even my kids love riding in. You can keep that CT4 that looks like a Honda Accord.
@@staceygantt1119 Hey. Didn't mean it like that. I would gladly own either car at their inception. It's just some designs age better than others and Cadillac is on a learning curve in that respect in my opinion. Both are made with pride to be as close to halo-ish cars as possible.
I hate that so many CT6s were sold without the V8 option. I support what Caddy is doing, but I don't like this practice. The CT5V and 4V are being released with underperforming motors only to come back with bigger badder motors for 2021. The technology across the line ups don't add up. You have new Escalade with the OLED display so how long does it take to get that in the CT6 and other newly released vehicles. Lets get everything upgraded at the same time so people don't have to waste their money. If I was in a 3.0TT platinum CT6 I purchased brand new, right now I'd be pissed. This V8 is the same price as the 3.0TT when it was new.
Wasn't that engine sitting on the shelf since bankruptcy? The R&D was mostly done from what I remember. It was gonna be their master engine. It was already paid for with reorganization maybe? Cafe probably isn't helping because they don't have anything else to balance it with. Wish I had $80k. I saw a V for sell weigh no miles for just that. 😭😭😭
0:25 Do you ride motorcycles too?! I love the MV Agusta, my friend has a special edition F3 all kitted out with AMG sponsorship. LOVE IT. He rides it like my mother would ride a bike. SLOW. So consequently I hate riding with him. 😂
I got rid of My Caddy CTS months ago . I finally learned my lesson and bought a Lexus . The Caddy was full of issues from the start . Everything from the infotainment system to the suspension gave me nothing but agita . Buyer beware !
It just won't hold it's value like your buddies CTS-V wagon did. A NA v8 with a manual gearbox in a wagon is something never to be seen again which is sad. Cadillac should use the Blackwing badge as a performance label like AMG or M and work with GM performance to say, fit optional manuals or dct, into these things.
I’am absolue certain that General Motor will definitely, share some of that technology and power train with the 2021or 2022 model the famous corvette. That is lookout Eurosport car Cadillac is on the move seriously.👍🇨🇦
I dunno man, I mean I really want old lady GM to put the 4.2tt in waaaay more cars. But they aren’t doing it!?! Why?!? It really seems like they spent all that time and money developing the blackwing v8 for nothing. Which really saddens me.
Maybe. I've been hearing that Cadillac is considering building CT6's again if they can find a place to put the line (the old factory was converted over to making electric vehicles) 🤷🏽♂️
I sure hope it isn't dead. I have actually driven a couple (no, not of this performance level) but the regular model levels, and I LOVED them. For a big car, mind you, which is what you are discussing here when you consider the CT6, it is wonderful.
MotoManTV, George, I feel that the CT6 is a masterpiece and that the recently exited CEO of the Cadillac division doomed it by insisting that it be compared to and marketed against a 7 Series or S Class when from the start it wasn’t intended nor engineered to be. The CT6 would have been better marketed as a competitor to a 6 Series, CLS or GS where it competed against driver’s sedans and offers a legitimate offering and was priced correctly in each option package. Had this been a success despite the market’s shift, Cadillac might have maintained its place and in fact regained much of its strength in the upper level sedan market as some have, and been able to produce a Ct8 or Escala, Ciel and Xt8. This engine could have been in the highest option levels of any of them. He was just wrong for everyone.
MotoManTV Leasing limited production cars in Canada is wonderful :). I prepay the full principal via down payment and then sell privately near the lease end and nearly make my down payment back in equity since I sell them at near MSRP 2.5-3 years later with low buyouts (worked on my S5, C63S and to a lesser extent my previous G37). And my credit score is still 850 :)
@@giggiddy I’m lucky enough here in Canada that my last 3 $100k performance cars haven’t depreciated much at all over the lease term. Therefore with my large down payment which covered almost all of the principal for the lease term, I have that same amount in equity and use that equity as the large down payment for the next car. Monthly payments are just a few hundred dollars and not much of it is wasted to interest. It’s the best option for not being able to come close to buying it outright new. One day a car will depreciate and I’ll finally lose that $30k down payment...but for now, the same cash has paid for 3 cars :)
4:02 Thats whats missing from BEV's sure some of them have sound but they don't ring out like a real truely fantastic mechanical engine does. Id argue if you want ppl to have a true love for BEV's this needs to be reproduced. I know BMW finally hired a real professional on their last BEV but even that doesn't continue to ring out. They cap it to keep you from wanting to go the extra mile. Personally I think that's a miss.
MotoManTV. The size would be a positive factor if it didn’t affect the drive. I see them as competitors because of the price. But I’m coming from a 00’ M5/17’ RR sport supercharged. I’d think the CT6 V is something that is in that realm.
But come on, you can still buy a Cadillac with a Blackwing name stick to it. It won't have the engine but it will have the name. I believe that's called " BAIT AND SWITCH "!
@DasherDk Yeah no problem. He was hinting at the fact that this car might be a future collectable since it's so rare, and he was comparing it to the CTSV wagon which was a rare car also.
@DasherDk Lol yeah I agree with you it seems kinda odd for them to go through all the trouble for only a few hundred cars. Makes me wonder what wen on behind the scenes, but hey I also can't afford one so w.e. lol
Mm-hmm. There's a high-profile name that has no business running Cadillac (that *isn't* Mary Barra) that I'll leave unsaid, but they're a GM lifer, not that that narrows it down. Suffice it to say that their choices for engineering have run the brand into the ground. But hey, at least they love the Corvette...
SO WHAT ABOUT ALL THE EXTRA TURBOS & OVERHEAD CAMS AND CRAP???!!!! AS A WORKING MAN MY CONCERN IS LONG TERM RELIABILITY & AFFORDABLE MAINTENANCE!!!! FOR THE SUPER RICH THIS CAR MAY BE OK AS A MONEY PIT!!!!!
The CT6 is still being made.... in China. As a PHEV and a 2.0L turbo 4. Cadillac is now the EV division of GM..... perhaps the Corvette will get the Blackwing?
TODAYS ENGINES WITH ALL THE TURBOS AND SUPERCHARGERS ARE JUST DISGUSTING IN THE LONG TERM. AN INTELLIGENT PERSON DOES T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOUR STIOID RAVES OVER A NEW CAR LIKE THIS WHICH IS OVERLY ENGINEERED AND TOO DAMN COMPLEX AND TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE. AND WILL BE NOTHING BUT A .MONEY PIT TO REPAIR!!!!!!
Johan de Nysschen made a mess at Infiniti before apparently continuing his total bobble head marketing spiel at Cadillac. Supposedly there will be less to destroy at Volkswagen NA, which has already made a mess without his help.
The only thing I don't like about modern Cadillacs is their naming system. These are awesome cars! Love those rear view mirrors.
Yeah, they need to be American, and give the cars proper names without numbers. Let the others play with all the silly number naming.
I agree. Traditional Cadillac model names from yesteryear, like the Eldorado, Seville, Coupe/Seadan DeVille, Fleetwood, etc are far better, that these "Euro-style" Alpha-numeric monikers , like CT-5, C66 etc. It doesn't provide the car with the property identity that it deserves !!
Exactly. No one knows what a Ct6 or ct5 is🤣
CT5 should be a Seville. CT6 should be a Deville. Cadillac should build an even bigger sedan and call it the Fleetwood.
Yeah I miss the old names like deville and seville and fleetwood and brougham. They are now going to have the lyriq optiq and I can’t remember the other two but they are the same weird naming scheme as the lyriq. Mystiq? I don’t remember haha
Cadillac is king! ... I’ve had a BMW, Lexus , and most recent a Mercedes ... they just don’t do it for me , I purchased the Cadillac CTS v sport and wow it’s just amazing !
Just found a Unicorn. 2019 CT6-V Blackwing with 24k miles on it. In Shadow Metallic too. 10/10 showroom condition. Super lucky. I sell Cadillacs and a GM Executive traded it in for a 2022 CT5-V Blackwing. I'll never hit the lotto but every now and then the universe opens up and gives me a lil taste and my new car is it. It's so sick. Still can't believe it. Happy driving yall!
Steering feel and chassis tuning has been GM's forte, I mean really been one of the best since the ATS came out in 2013. I really hope GM will at least use this hand built dream of an engine in the upcoming Z06
they used a better engine
CT6s are exceedingly rare in the upper class areas of Charlotte, NC. The Germans still reign supreme (when it isn’t a crossover that is), but I saw a CT6 the other day and it was pretty striking. I don’t know if my money would be spent here, but I’m excited that Cadillac makes a very convincing argument with this car.
This engine was developed by a 3rd party contractor. GM had more of a refining role in development. The first prototypes arrived in late 2015, and as far as resources went, this was far from the budget you think it was, much testing was done with salvaged parts and pieces from failed prototypes. We actually took the blocks out to machine shops to have the shrapnel cleaned out when they failed so we could re-use the blocks since we had no way of getting more. I don't know what the plan was from the beginning but it certainly wasn't profit or volume.
A certified future classic when you consider that the modern Audis and BMWs have lost so much of their inherent character with forced aspiration and the production run is so tiny, although AMG conversely seems to have struck a winner with their 4.0. A shame that the CT6 has only come into fruition so late into its production run and is effectively discontinued outside of China. Hopefully this engine can make its way into the likes of the Escalade and other GM vehicles. For the price hard to pass the likes of the W222 or A8 though. As a European, I'm not massively familiar with Cadillac as a brand but this grabbed my attention from over the pond! Great Review!
I don't know who keeps telling people this car is discontinued because it's not. This engine won't be in the Escalade unless it gets detuned with a boost in torque.
@@lilbuddylee131I believe that production ended February this year in non-Chinese markets to make way for plant retooling of upcoming Cadillac EVs although I may be wrong
This is a car that if I had the means, I would add to my car collection!!!
Love these cars! That engine will definitely be in future vehicles
Yes, it's fun to drive and I've got the tickets to prove it.
I want one of these so bad
Your spoon 😂😂😂
@@thewiseman5948 huh?
Concur totally. I cannot afford one now. But were I to acquire the money - THIS would be my first car treat. Yes, there are other also wonderful vehicles, some which are 'more' or possibly 'better' in various, narrow points of view, but THIS one would be the perfect overall car for me.
Amazing video man!! If you’re in Texas I’d love to visit that cool barn/garage you’ve got haha!
I sold Cadillacs for a year. They suffered from an identity crisis. The sales program was based on competing directly against the Germans, especially BMW. We got one of the first XTS sedans in our region and the sales manager made it a point that we needed to pitch it as an American series 7. The CTS-V was described as "better than an M5" None of it made sense to me and when I sold them, I never brought up competition, just to try to sell the merits of the car. The XTS was a sales failure (they had very high hopes for it) and the CTS-V was always a low numbers car. It was a sad as approach on their part
They should have kept the "DTS" in production if you ask me.
Can't wait to see the reviews on the CT5-V Blackwing! Upgraded performance over this car, but with a lighter chassis! I will say that the CT6 is probably the best looking of the CT series though. Very elegant.
These will be a collector's item in 6 years... Also the 2016 - present Toyota Land cruisers.
Too bad that fabulous old XLR is no longer in play. This engine...In that frame beefed up of course...The convertible that cadillac should have made...could have made...Wishing it was still made...
I love my 16 ATSV Sedan! Just handles amazing
I have a ‘16 atsv also totally agree - going to 2nd home, 132 miles, I can average 32+mpg love the way it handles the best of my 3 Vs.
The Best Cadillac so far , CT6 V 👍👍
"Other GM cars"= 2022 C8? I continue to be perplexed by how Americans continue to pay well over 100K for BMW and AMG "performance" sedans, while sending to the grave American sedans.
I would not touch a Panemera or an AMG. Their rate of depreciation is horrendous, and maintenance is outrageous. Sad to see the demise of the American sedan in the horizon. I'm 60, and I remember riding in our neighbor's in 1971 Conti. A Caddy and Continental were the epitome of luxury. Don't get me wrong, I would not buy either today. A 2020 Lexus LC500 convertible would be my choice. Gorgeous, great build quality, and an even better V8 than the 4.2 Blackwing V8 in the Caddy.
Killed off to copy Tesla and the EV craze. It’s a sad time to be a gear head.
What are you talking about? There is a CT4 and CT5 blackwing both available with a manual transmission and big power. In fact, none of the new caddy sedans are EV?
I will never get to own a ct6 blackwing. So I’ll be happy with the 3.0 TT. Really sucks they built this motor to basically kill it off after putting it in one model for just couple years. I love the northstar V8’s and man I would’ve loved this V8 too!
The northstar v8's are straight trash lol
I was hoping that you'd do a review of this car at some point. The CT6 was always a good car in search of a great engine. And like the Allante before it, it got the engine it needed right before it got axed. The Road and Track article from Jun 18th speaks the in the most detail I've seen on the subject. Why was the CT6 discontinued in the States (still available in China)? Why after Cadillac decided to shift to EVs did the Blackwing V8 even see the light of day? My opinion is that we are still seeing the after effects of the GM bankruptcy in 2009, which like a tsunami caused catastrophic waves through the organization that are still being felt. After the axing of Pontiac, Olds, Saab and Saturn, there were still barely enough funds to operate and continue with new product. We would have seen the C8 mid-engine Corvette years ago had it not been for that so we got the C7 instead. Opel was sold off so goodbye Buick Cascada and the end of a Buick/Opel relationship that dates back to the late 60s (my late father and his sister both had Opel Kadetts...his sister still had hers but is hasn't run in 30 years). And as for Cadillac, I remember my friend who owns the local Caddy dealership show me slides of future product John de Nysschen had promised the dealers. The road map was a complete fleshing out of all of their product holes. But some of those cars either didn't see the light of day or ended up different than the original vision (the XT6 was supposed to be an Omega-based car...instead we got something half-assed based on other existing GM product). There is supposed to be a mid-engine sports car Caddy based on the C8 Corvette somewhere....hell, a keyfob was even leaked to the press. Will we ever see that halo car? At this point I have my doubts. This car was supposed to have gotten the Blackwing V8. The CT5 Blackwing should have gotten that engine too but we've been told not to wait up for it. And I consider it to be marketing malpractice to the upcoming 2021 Escalade didn't feature this engine as a differentiator for the Tahoe and Yukon products. Why isn't the Blackwing in the new 'Slade? No more money for engineering? Who knows. Could Cadillac have sold a ton of them at high profit? Absolutely. You know me as a huge Cadillac fan. I've driven six of them in my adult life. I really want the CT6 Blackwing as a daily but that's not going to happen. But it still should be on sale. As it stands, there are a few scattered around the country on dealer lots languishing when they should be marketed as a flagship product. I hope the EV products finally get this right. Because it looks from where I sit like they took a lot of the available engineering dollars from products currently in the showrooms for a promise in the new 1-4 years.
RICK! You, sir, would LOVE this car. Don't tell your wife I told you or she will come murder me.
@@MotoManTV Yes she would. :)
From everyth8ng GM has said this engine won’t fit in the corvette. The CT5 v whatever is supposed to get the 6.2 supercharged V8. I hate to say I can see GM being dumb enough to waste the money on R&D. They did it in the CT6 chassis.
They can throw it in a silverado ZR2 if they ever make it
Impressive and Elegant
One of the best cars ever
That's y they need to bring the darn car back! What's up w Cadillac?!!
Best full size sedan under $100k.
10:59 Fun fact its 2022 and Caddi only used this powerplant for the 2019 & 2020 model year CT6 Plat and V. Still not seen on ANY car anywhere. What a waste of R&D dollars. I think personally they developed this state of the art engine at the very last moments until the entire company said omg we need to move to BEV asap. Stupid but there it is. So they dropped the line. Odd thing is the CT5 V doesn't use this. Instead it uses the 6.2L...but why? Id say they didn't have the tooling but they did, the engine ran for 2 production years. So why? I dunno.
I hope at some point Todd Browning sees this video!
I hope so too!
Thanks MotoMan! All 9 builders of the 4.2 Twin Turbo Blackwing V8 in Bowling Green, Kentucky (Chris Dillon, Todd Good, Justin Haynes, Durek Neblett, Steve [Stephen] Stinson, Brian Walker, Kathy Walker, Charisse Walters, and Jennifer Cline) are normal, decent people who do their job with pride and humility . . . a credit to GM and their country.
The blackwing program was cut, as was the omega chassis. All signs point to complete discontinuation, so don't hold your breath on seeing that V8 again.
Um, the CT5 and CT4 Blackwing come out next year.
The CT6 I never really understood, why not continue making the inside the nicest Cadillac. They never refreshed the interior and to call it V with the XT5 steering wheel has always been hard for me imagine. To give you an example the M5 has a different steering wheel over the regular one. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised since the only Cadillac that I know of that got a interior update was a SRX.
The steering wheel on this one had a better set of leather coverings which gave it a different feel from other recent Cadillacs I have driven.
MotoManTV btw no body does it like you. Something as simple as the cover of the engine, no body that I seen do a video on a black wing pointed that out. I’m curios how different this engine runs compared to my LT1
Isn't it weird that of AAALL the American brands that have existed in the last 100 years - CADILLAC (!) is the one that finally makes good driving cars! Well - they've been at it for a while now, but still. The number one brand for those needing a rolling plush sofa is the one that make sharp handling sport sedans!? :D
Yeah, crazy huh. I have switched from Lincoln to Cadillac. I just got a 16 CTS and boy does it handle well.
What a waste.
You're correct on both counts.
1) Rumor has it the engine will end up in the Corvette, not the Escalade, not the CT5-V (6.2SC) & not the CT4-V (3.6TT).
2) They built just under a 1000 CTS V Wagon with 3 pedals.
As always, excellent work, M.
Thank goodness, the CT4 BW in 2022 aren't as flat/dull in the interior. This is still the old granny cadillac iterior
Yes it is a granny car. I proudly own a 2018 CT6 Blackwing and get offers from the dealership and random people often. It's a big body Cadillac that even my kids love riding in. You can keep that CT4 that looks like a Honda Accord.
@@staceygantt1119 Hey. Didn't mean it like that. I would gladly own either car at their inception. It's just some designs age better than others and Cadillac is on a learning curve in that respect in my opinion. Both are made with pride to be as close to halo-ish cars as possible.
I hate that so many CT6s were sold without the V8 option. I support what Caddy is doing, but I don't like this practice. The CT5V and 4V are being released with underperforming motors only to come back with bigger badder motors for 2021. The technology across the line ups don't add up. You have new Escalade with the OLED display so how long does it take to get that in the CT6 and other newly released vehicles. Lets get everything upgraded at the same time so people don't have to waste their money. If I was in a 3.0TT platinum CT6 I purchased brand new, right now I'd be pissed. This V8 is the same price as the 3.0TT when it was new.
1st time seeing this video
I got right ✌️☺️ $98,000
Still want one, ik ik just dreaming
🤤🤤🤤
I could see that engine or a version of it making its way into a version of the new Corvette.
Please do a video on the beautiful Plane behind you! Now, That's very, very Interesting!😎
Already did: th-cam.com/video/VNq820peQ8U/w-d-xo.html
Wasn't that engine sitting on the shelf since bankruptcy? The R&D was mostly done from what I remember. It was gonna be their master engine. It was already paid for with reorganization maybe? Cafe probably isn't helping because they don't have anything else to balance it with. Wish I had $80k. I saw a V for sell weigh no miles for just that. 😭😭😭
Motoman would say: È magnifico!
:)
0:25 Do you ride motorcycles too?! I love the MV Agusta, my friend has a special edition F3 all kitted out with AMG sponsorship. LOVE IT. He rides it like my mother would ride a bike. SLOW. So consequently I hate riding with him. 😂
I got rid of My Caddy CTS months ago . I finally learned my lesson and bought a Lexus . The Caddy was full of issues from the start . Everything from the infotainment system to the suspension gave me nothing but agita . Buyer beware !
We really let this car just die...
It just won't hold it's value like your buddies CTS-V wagon did. A NA v8 with a manual gearbox in a wagon is something never to be seen again which is sad. Cadillac should use the Blackwing badge as a performance label like AMG or M and work with GM performance to say, fit optional manuals or dct, into these things.
I’am absolue certain that General Motor will definitely, share some of that technology and power train with the 2021or 2022 model the famous corvette. That is lookout Eurosport car Cadillac is on the move seriously.👍🇨🇦
I dunno man, I mean I really want old lady GM to put the 4.2tt in waaaay more cars. But they aren’t doing it!?! Why?!? It really seems like they spent all that time and money developing the blackwing v8 for nothing. Which really saddens me.
I want one!
Great work on the engine! BUT, Cadillac, released an Escala on this engine!!!
i heard that the 4.2 was killed off right after it made it to production.
Exclusivity. That's all, they down want to mass produce a car that doesn't sell much.
Isn’t the CT6 dead? I thought there just making the ct4 and ct5
Maybe. I've been hearing that Cadillac is considering building CT6's again if they can find a place to put the line (the old factory was converted over to making electric vehicles) 🤷🏽♂️
It might return as the ct8
I sure hope it isn't dead. I have actually driven a couple (no, not of this performance level) but the regular model levels, and I LOVED them. For a big car, mind you, which is what you are discussing here when you consider the CT6, it is wonderful.
@@evanhoffman3517 that ideal is dead too!
You are so lucky!
Dream car
This guy has been reviewing cars for years and still drives like a cop lol.
GREAT VIDEO.....USA USA
Thanks, Mike. Loved this car.
MotoManTV, George,
I feel that the CT6 is a masterpiece and that the recently exited CEO of the Cadillac division doomed it by insisting that it be compared to and marketed against a 7 Series or S Class when from the start it wasn’t intended nor engineered to be. The CT6 would have been better marketed as a competitor to a 6 Series, CLS or GS where it competed against driver’s sedans and offers a legitimate offering and was priced correctly in each option package. Had this been a success despite the market’s shift, Cadillac might have maintained its place and in fact regained much of its strength in the upper level sedan market as some have, and been able to produce a Ct8 or Escala, Ciel and Xt8. This engine could have been in the highest option levels of any of them.
He was just wrong for everyone.
The Ciel . . . THAT was a stunning car.
oh my lanta!
THIS ENGINE is coming with supercharger in New CT5 v supposedly.
this engine need to be in the new Escalade.Its a shame that a car has more power than something heavier.
Aw, no leasing options on the CT6-V. Off my list for my SVR’s replacement.
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MotoManTV Leasing limited production cars in Canada is wonderful :). I prepay the full principal via down payment and then sell privately near the lease end and nearly make my down payment back in equity since I sell them at near MSRP 2.5-3 years later with low buyouts (worked on my S5, C63S and to a lesser extent my previous G37). And my credit score is still 850 :)
Why not just buy it? Why lease?
@@giggiddy I’m lucky enough here in Canada that my last 3 $100k performance cars haven’t depreciated much at all over the lease term. Therefore with my large down payment which covered almost all of the principal for the lease term, I have that same amount in equity and use that equity as the large down payment for the next car. Monthly payments are just a few hundred dollars and not much of it is wasted to interest. It’s the best option for not being able to come close to buying it outright new. One day a car will depreciate and I’ll finally lose that $30k down payment...but for now, the same cash has paid for 3 cars :)
@@CapnT87 Right on brother. Enjoy!
Hope the ct6 comes back on a different platform
Black interior is the only option for the blackwing. It disqualifies this car for me
4:02 Thats whats missing from BEV's sure some of them have sound but they don't ring out like a real truely fantastic mechanical engine does. Id argue if you want ppl to have a true love for BEV's this needs to be reproduced. I know BMW finally hired a real professional on their last BEV but even that doesn't continue to ring out. They cap it to keep you from wanting to go the extra mile. Personally I think that's a miss.
If I were in that market would it be best to get a M5 or a E63 instead of a CT6V?
Not comparing apples to oranges. Totally different size and class of car even though the prices are similar.
MotoManTV. The size would be a positive factor if it didn’t affect the drive. I see them as competitors because of the price. But I’m coming from a 00’ M5/17’ RR sport supercharged. I’d think the CT6 V is something that is in that realm.
M5 and E63 would be more comparable to the new CTS-V
Oof... That hand position is giving me anxiety.
The BLACKWING NAME IS MORE THAN OK GET IT RIGHT
I can sell my house and live in this car!
But come on, you can still buy a Cadillac with a Blackwing name stick to it.
It won't have the engine but it will have the name.
I believe that's called " BAIT AND SWITCH "!
12:15 I’m picking up what you’re laying down 😉
@DasherDk Yeah no problem. He was hinting at the fact that this car might be a future collectable since it's so rare, and he was comparing it to the CTSV wagon which was a rare car also.
@DasherDk Lol yeah I agree with you it seems kinda odd for them to go through all the trouble for only a few hundred cars. Makes me wonder what wen on behind the scenes, but hey I also can't afford one so w.e. lol
your gonna shit a brick when you see the ct5 blackwing
Hope you will cover the new Cadillac Escalade as well soon
Lots of new 2019 Blackwings (Plat and V) for sale with $10k+ discounts off sticker.
That ain’t no Tupperware
Beautiful car but the interior leaves much to be desired.
Typical GM! Make a car perfect and then cancel it!
Mm-hmm. There's a high-profile name that has no business running Cadillac (that *isn't* Mary Barra) that I'll leave unsaid, but they're a GM lifer, not that that narrows it down. Suffice it to say that their choices for engineering have run the brand into the ground. But hey, at least they love the Corvette...
站在的凯迪拉克一味的降低配置然后降低价格，这不是我们想要的。还好在2019年买了一辆顶配的ct6，站在的ct6发动机功率真的太低了
SO WHAT ABOUT ALL THE EXTRA TURBOS & OVERHEAD CAMS AND CRAP???!!!!
AS A WORKING MAN MY CONCERN IS LONG TERM RELIABILITY & AFFORDABLE MAINTENANCE!!!!
FOR THE SUPER RICH THIS CAR MAY BE OK AS A MONEY PIT!!!!!
but the interior.....
The CT6 is still being made.... in China. As a PHEV and a 2.0L turbo 4. Cadillac is now the EV division of GM..... perhaps the Corvette will get the Blackwing?
TODAYS ENGINES WITH ALL THE TURBOS AND SUPERCHARGERS ARE JUST DISGUSTING IN THE LONG TERM.
AN INTELLIGENT PERSON DOES T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOUR STIOID RAVES OVER A NEW CAR LIKE THIS WHICH IS OVERLY ENGINEERED AND TOO DAMN COMPLEX AND TOO DAMN EXPENSIVE.
AND WILL BE NOTHING BUT A .MONEY PIT TO REPAIR!!!!!!
Johan de Nysschen made a mess at Infiniti before apparently continuing his total bobble head marketing spiel at Cadillac. Supposedly there will be less to destroy at Volkswagen NA, which has already made a mess without his help.
He always talking shit about caddy
That's the worst luxury interior I've ever seen.
Cadillac is the next division
To
Fold due to poor research and development 👎🏾
I would have to go with the Mercedes S Class or BMW 7 Series.