I think the problem with trying to find evidence of Norse settlement is that the obvious places to settle along the North American coastline were probably also occupied by later settlers so that the remnants are buried beneath subsequent layers of occupation.
that's also a reason why it has been very difficult to find early human remanants and old civilization, Jericó was a town that was just there as an old village but nothing special and then BOOM oldest city (known to the moment)
Inuit are also across northern Canada - Nunavut, Northern Québec, northern Labrador, and all the way across the Northwest Territories and into Yukon www.rcaanc-cirnac.gc.ca/eng/1100100014187/1534785248701
@@xochiltepetzalailhuicamina2322Thanks for that historical hidden fact. Truly learn something new every single day, especially when it comes to the secret origins of world history.
The biggest issue that prevented the Vinland settlements from flourishing and surviving was a lack of people. There were already very few people living on Greenland and those were pretty much the only people the Vinland settlement could draw on. Unlike later European settlers they didn't have the backing/support of a centralised nation state and in the end there simply weren't enough of them to resist Native raids/aggression.
One other thing that amazed me when I first learned of this is that the contact between the Norse and the Inuit likely marks the first time humans, who we believe evolved in North Africa, had made it all the way around the globe and met on the other side. Not a big deal in the history of any one nation or region, but a landmark in the history of the species.
Humans migratated from the Russian/ Ukrainian steppes regions not Africa, that is a modern myth to encourage mass imigration and race mixing. how would we have gone back to Africa and they were still chucking spears at each other if this was not the case.
Modern Europeans evolved in Europe. And we do not originate from Africa whatsoever. The proof in this is both our immediate physical and mental differences. But genetic proof lies in extensive Cromagnon and Neanderthal in our blood. Something which the Africans have 0 of.
offa of Angeln no substantial evidence of such, all of our ancestors were hominids who evolved in eastern africa, this doesn’t mean all humans ancestors are modern day africans, or that modern day africans created all other races, we all had the same ancestors and split off while theirs stayed in africa. stop taking incels who never left their moms basement /pol/ seriously
What if... Mars was the original homeland of the vikings and Earth was the planet that got invaded 0o0 Makes sense, doesn't it? The planet itself is named after a god of war. Midgard, the 4th realm, is the realm of humans. Mars is 4th planet from the sun. It all makes sense. *Bruh... aliens*
@@davidm9214 - your statement that "people have been in North America before the last ice age" is clearly not the case. The last Ice Age started over one hundred thousand years ago. There is no evidence of human occupation of the Americas that comes anywhere near being that long ago.
@90z Rather odd statement on your part. My very point is there is no evidence of human occupation of North America prior to the last Ice Age. Your contention is there was human occupation of North America before the Ice Age, thus the onus is on you to support your position with evidence.
I've read that leif erikson is basically the most reasonable guy in his insane bloodthirsty family, instantly after he tell the tale of this land his big bro take his ship and going there wishing to kill as much natives as possible(viking back then were basically Christian version of ISIS) let's say that he look like a porcupine after messing with the wrong tribe and get honored as the first European to get buried in American soil.
I read a great story about a Welsh king that made it to America and ended up mixing with the natives and became the Mandon Indians that had blue eyes and legends that sounded like they were the same people. I dont know it was probably pure fiction but it's a cool story
They found a viking coin near Bath Maine back in the 60s..... I've always believed they had a settlement there. It's a perfect harbor for ships even today, that's why the Navy has a base there..... love your channel
@@Belenus3080 Is that what it is? I saw a navy ship there when I was a kid. I guess it got stuck in my head it was a navy base.😂 thanks for the help my friend👍🏻
I was born in Bath Maine. The shipyard it Bath Iron Works. Navy destroyers are built there on the kennebec river. I was thinking about the coin they found. I believe it was a little further up the coast.
The coin is thought to be a hoax, planted at the archaeological site. Oddly, the archaeological records for the dig are few and do not support a finding of the coin.
First of all. I am half Mig'Maw (Native American from New Brunswick). We have our own runic writing system said to be brought by a priest, but the elders talk of it being the writing of our ancestors. We are all a little bit taller then the other aboriginal groups around us and even some ELDERS have blue and green eyes and it is said that we had some of these features before the French arrived. Even our beliefs system has some taboos that fit with Norse traditions. Just funny to say they may have gone to NB...No WE DID and mingled with the ones here and it made us...
If johnny's situation was because of viking somebody would have done the research because there's a reason the British where looking for a white tribe in Africa okay like even with bias being pro White scientist looking for lost white tribes oooooh found nothing and haven't found anything in 300 years still nothing nada.
I like the thing you did with the fog of war on the map of the known world, to accentuate the fact that they were basically venturing into the unknown.
Norse exploration of North America is fascinating. I wish more sound evidence of their presence in what is now the U.S. would be discovered. Perhaps they actually did travel to the interior of America, but we need more concrete proof.
I think it's important to note that Norse Greenland starts just after the Medieval Warm Period begins (950-ish), and starts its decline just after it ends (1300-ish, being finally abandoned 1408). Other North American settlements follow similar dates, such as Cahokia for instance.
I live in Newfoundland, The island has a huge amount of wild blue berries which grow very big. Maybe these might be the grapes they thought they found.
@@KaliBoyinPDX Like y'all weren't fighting each other all the time anyway. Plus, I bet you wouldn't give up medicine, anesthetic, media, cars... you know 95% of what is called modern that we brought with us. Oh well, hope the bitterness doesnt kill ya.
@@justinkennedy3004 Bruh the planet is dying due to western society. Wtf type crack are you on? Maybe its all the opiates your magical western medicine gives out to kids like candy. 1 in 4 kids in America are on some type of meds. When the world is burning you can thank europeans for that to. Ignorant ass genocide supporter
@@shuheihisagi6689 I work and support myself you lile shit. which country has it better and a more civilized society than the west. And do you think other parts of the world had done better if the tables was turned. You're just a spoiled shit. as one I know Said if you don't like it leave ooo i forgot to ask you if you are a part of Black and brown community😂 a person of color😂👌
from Greenland it would actually take the Vikings two to three weeks to sail no north America, I personally don't think that the Vikings found ore in America, I believe that the colony would be way more successful if they did, but I would really be exciting to see more research in the area, imagine if they found Norse DNA in the natives from that area
It's actually very possible that Colombus read the books from the very Vikings them selfs, he was a sailer sense a very young age, and read everything that he could get his hands on. It's is said that he collected books from all over europ including Norway
You do realize that the Vikings did not speak or write Italian don't you? Not Spanish either. I doubt the Vikings could write at all. Only monks and priests could read and write. BTW there were no printing presses so books were all handwritten. Maybe think about some of these historical facts.
Well yeah the books where probably writhing in Latin just like the epics that lead to the discovery of the settlement in vinland, plus Columbus did speak multiple languages and is know to have very talented people on his crews that probably could also speak a multiple languages. Soo yea Im sure that my ideas are full of holes and are only conspiracy theories hahaha
@@Peggyt-jp6mt Vikings were literate in their own norse languages, which could be interpreted, dumbass. They literally wrote "Ulfbhert" on the Ulfbhert sword. They knew how to fuckin write
@@joelrivera4874 I thought the sagas were written in old norse and didn't leave Iceland in written form. That it would be translated into latin from there seems like a stretch tbh
.and of course not forgetting John Cabot who sailed from England in 1497 and was the first European since the norsemen, to set foot in mainland North America. He was the first to also make the return journey to Europe with news of his discovery.
There is evidence of pollen showing that Concord grapes grew as far north as the Massachusetts / New Hampshire border, but there is no pollen evidencee that they grew any farther north than that. If they found grapes they had to reach at least the Gulf of Maine and Massachusetts Bay at least as far south as what is today Seavey Island between Maine and New Hampshire which is a short row from the Mass / NH border down the coast. There are many navigable rivers all along the New England coast. There is some scarse evidence that is disputed and reputed to be of Norse interaction. Recent discovery of a second settlement on Newfoundland Island on the southern tip proved that the viking settlement was producing and smelting iron locally for the first time in the Americas. No other group of people among the natives had this technology Only the Norse had it at this time and place in the Americas. th-cam.com/video/EJ11Khg4qyU/w-d-xo.html
Making the blanket statement that Native Americans had no technology is not correct. Corrupt historians have covered up the abilities of North American natives throughout early United States history. This was used to subjugate and control them. Parroting these lies is still happening today.
I once heard someone call the Greenland Colony unsuccessful because it disappeared. But I reminded them that the colony lasted about 500 years. The USA is about 200 years old
I hope you can find the amazing Viking research of the Norwegian author Kåre Prytz, and his incredibly interesting research into the Norse discovery of North America. His work is some of the best I've seen. There are so much evidence that points to the vikings having sailed further south - all the way to grand bahamas and the tip of Florida - I mean - why wouldn't they? They were very well used to travelling south to France and Spain and even Sicily and Constantinople and would know full well that there would be other resources to catch, warmer, more berries or whatever. Kåre Prytz compares all the known copies of norse maps, or maps based on norse tales, and the museums of Denmark and Iceland contain a vast archive of icelandic writings that have not yet been transcribed, translated and interpreted by modern historians - what Prytz did was compare many of the more unknown stories - or rather not so famous stories - and shown how Vikings landing all the way to southern united states is really very plausible. His main book is called "Lykkelige Vinland" in Norwegian (Happy Vinland - directly translated) and his second main book "Westward Before Columbus", is even available on amazon
No,Basques,they had been fishing cod off the grand banks before Columbus (they think), they might have been.It would make sense that fishermen would keep their grounds secret.
@@theotterguy With the North Atlantic coasts subject to Northeaster storms, it makes sense to believe fishing boats would have been driven west. The forests were a source of supplies for repair of any ship.
@@PowersOfDarkness That may not actually be the case. There are records in the UK that seem to indicate fisherman sailing to Newfoundland decades prior to Columbus arriving in the Americas
Do something on the klinker built ships and how seaworthy they were. These ships gave the Scandinavians a real advantage over many others at that time and explains a lot about how they could be so successful. I think they are beautiful and deserve to be a topic on their own.
It is sad but mostly the Vikings are remembered for their Warrior culture but they are so much more open trade routes discovered North America 500 years before Columbus and wonderful Craftsman shipbuilders and sailors the reason they ventured out was probably due to overpopulation and a very harsh climate so they wanted to discover new lands were there people could start a new life but make no mistake I have left unavailable Mark effect on history
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts Who pissed in your cereal, dipshit? Why so mad? Anime or not, the Vinland saga is actually more historically accurate than “History” channels Vikings. Just take out the superhuman like strength some characters seem to have.
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts The main character of the Vinland Saga is Thortinn Karlsefani which depicted the real life character, how about you go check that anime first and before saying obnoxious nonsense you psuedo-intelligent egotistical man child.
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts Hey youre alive! I thought youre dead but the characters in the anime were real even Canute the King of the Danish were real but some other plots of the anime werent even connected to real life but the manga artist did studied the Sagas of the Vikings, BUT did I mentioned them going to North America? I was talking about the characters and not the actual event.
@@Tanner2056 Yes but Miqmaks were allied with the Acadians and even before them they traded with the earlier Basque/French/Spanish fishing vessels. The Iroquois were probably perceived as a greater threat, whereas the first Europeans were a novelty or partners.
@@j.obrien4990 By the time of Acadians settlement most of my people had dies to diseases so we became less aggressive to outsider but that didn't stop all skirmishes
@@Tanner2056 - The Mi'kmaq were great traders. They saw an opportunity to acquire European goods which they could then trade to other tribes living farther south and west. If you are interested see if you can find a copy of 'Tarrentines and the Introduction of European Trade Goods in the Gulf of Maine' by Bruce J. Bourque and Ruth Holmes Whitehead
Vikings: "Here are two skrælings that lies unattended eating food consisting of raw bone and marrow. They must surely be "fredløse". Kill them!" (Natives get the wind of this) Natives: "WTF?? Don't they know we might be more than a few???" OR: The time they killed all but one who escaped and brought others? :D Fucking stupid to venture into a strange land flaunting hostile behaviour. I think the trade took over, though, and continued...
This is the basis of an alternate history I like to speculate on. I think the Norse would likely worked out a deal with a local people who I believe were an Algonquin tribe. Vinland become a port for further Nordic trade Expedition into the st. Lawrence River. There wasn't much of a population pressure for Europeans to move at the time. The Algonquin and Ojibwa within the past 200 years had introduced to the three sisters (Corn, beans, Squad). I would imagine that they would introduce the vinlanders to them while being introduced to old world livestock ie cattle and horses in return. Most North America used the dog as a pack animal which is not as good for that as bovines or equines (horses and asses). Horses are known as tall dogs among some Plains people as it filled the same roles for the European. Contact with cattle would unknowingly give them a greater immunity to smallpox via exposure to cowpox. I think within the first couple of decades you'd an epidemic spread across the Northeast trade routes likely killing 10-20% of the population of natives. However without Wars of the Conquistadors that brought famine and caused economic collapse , they're able to recover within a few decades from their first plague. Vinland which would have seen a decent influx of Norse Pagan immigrants wanting to avoid the church may start a campaign of exploration and expansion. If they have a decent relationship they may annex some neighboring lands either through marriage or vassalization kind of like the Aztecs. They would also made contact with the Mississippian culture inland.
Is told vin means wine and still insists the idea that it means land of grapes. That's Intelligence for you today folks. Parroting conventional wisdom despite what they see.
It would be cool if you could do a video of Amerigos Vespucci. A lot of people doesn't even know who he is, and that the Americas were named after him. I believe that as much detail that you put into your videos, it would be a good idea. That's just my opinion.
Also there are descriptions in the sagas that describe areas that appear to be NY Harbor, Delaware Bay and the Eastern Shore maybe even more of the Chesapeake Bay as places of at least exploration.
Yeah it sounds fun not having proper supplies that maximizes the risk of dying. I hope one does not wish to return to such difficult times, but rather appreciate the hardships your ancestors went through.
Most ppl in Iceland were Norwegians, plus all the famous ppl in the tales are Norwegians. U might wanna point that out, i nstead of coloring the map "Norse" as if it was a joint effort by all Norse ppl
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts True, but I was high and thought to myself I'm commenting just to vent, not to change the world 🌍✌️ so I didn't really care then and not now, but one thing I do care about is facts, at least when it's a subject I know well 😉
I saw a carving in Chichen Itza in the Yucatan (southern Mexico), of a tall bearded, long nosed Norseman, standing among a row of the locals (lot shorter, rounded headed and beardless), on the side of the "Ball Court" there . The tour guide sad there is more, but I didnt bother. Viking/Norsemen scouts had made it into the Caribbeans and southern Mexico (Yucatan) a long time before Cortes and the Spaniards
People, Vinland is newfoundland, Canada. That is the only place on the content with concrete evidence of a Viking civilization and the Beothuck (a long gone Indian tribe) perfectly match the tribe the Vikings interacted with.
So cool I truly love this stuff. I have often wondered About how far south the Norris would have traveled. And then I realize they would have been very far south. They had good sea wreathe boats and were settled for years. Fishing and hunting along the cost could have taken them as far as Florida easily. That's why I think Vinland could have been far enough south for grapes to grow. like maybe the Hudson bay. Or the Chesapeake Bay. However I think the distance from their home country was the biggest reason for their failed colonization of North America. No way to have steady commerce with their homeland. Yet What a grand and hardy people they must of been. They had come so close. But operantly Their government was not organized well enough. And the need for the land was not strong enough for them to settle permanently.
The Scandinavians went all over North America. They went down the river systems as far a Minnesota and Oklahoma. There are signs of them all over North America. They just found a new settlement 300 miles south of L’Anse aux Meadows.
There is no real evidence of the Norse "all over north America". The "settlement 300 miles south of L’Anse aux Meadows" has proven not to be a settlement at all but a natural formation.
@@SineMacula - Why would I not. The evidence is just not there to show its a Norse site. In fact there are no artifacts at all to point to an occupation of the site. Is it some kind of conspiracy to cover it up? To what end would that serve? If it truly was a Norse site this would be good news for the an economically deprived region. The site would generate tourism.
They most likely found muscadine grapes. Which are native to North America. Perhaps paw paws as well. An overlooked fact is that the Vikings were in Greenland before the Inuits. And a bit of trivia. In the mid 15 hundreds, a ship from the Kingdom of Denmark (I think it was.), found a Norseman's body floating near Greenland. And before they found it, they were wondering if anyone of the previous colonies survived. The man's body was clad in a whale skin outfit, with a very corroded ancient dagger. They documented it. Kept the dagger, and gave him a Christian burial at sea. He also didn't seem to be dead very long. They wanted to follow up and explore to see if any of the colonies survived. But that was not their mission nor did they have time. So they survived a lot longer than previous thought. With the climate shift, they could grow no fodder for their livestock. And other crops would fail in the shorter and shorter growing seasons. No sheep or cattle after awhile. No more wood coming in either, nor the ability to build ships. They had to make their wooden handles for tools last. And no more iron ore being brought in. They had to resort to whaling and sealing for skin for clothing and meat for food. Fights with the Inuits over resources started as well. I suspect no one believes the long winters were going to last. That's why a sizeable number stayed. Due to icebergs, going back became impossible. It must have been a grim somber existence.
Hey Fiddleback - I believe it was an Icelandic crew who found the body. The body was found on a beach and was clothed in sealskin and homespun. The last record from the Norse colonies was a marriage recorded in 1408.
Makes perfect sense that Norse would get really good at shipbuilding and resort to raiding and exploration (albeit somewhat by accident). They literally had a cold Scandinavian peninsula with virtually no arable land.
Vikings also settled close to shore often....sea levels rise mixed with erosion and new settlements in the future and the rapid growth of the forest up here it would make it very hard to find anything
The Viking settlements were very high, not at the shore line. The best example is Anse aux Meadows....Newfoudland, the Viking settlement. It is high and they could see on both side of the ocean, the East and the West. Also, could be defended a lot easier than at the sea level or shore.
One note for you mate, as a British-English speaking Dane who also speaks Old Norse, just because you're rolling your R's doesn't mean you're saying the names in Old Norse.. You're rolling your R's well - but still maintaining the American accent. If you're working on it then good job 👍 keep on going. But if you're not, exaggerate the vowels more and do a bit of research on the Viking alphabet and how to pronounce the letters. For example when you mentioned Erik the Red's name in Old Norse at 3:58, - "Eríkr" - was perfect, but - "Rauði" - was pretty shite no offence. The letter, "ð" is the equivalent of a voiced "th" and the "i" is a stressed "ee". So it should sound like, "Rowthee-", rather than what you said, "Rowdeh". Just giving you a heads up cause you seem to be trying to speak Old Norse 👍.
During the Medieval Climate Optimum Iceland and Greenland were both far warmer. Wine grapes were even grown in England during this period. Greenland probably was just poor grassland at best, the Norse supposedly raised sheep there until the mini-Ice Age made the Greenland colony unstainable.
it was not just losing grassland to ice which made it unsustainable when they settled in greenland which had far more dangerous waters because of its temperature they began changing by relying more on the land and that meant they had less fish oil which was what gave them vitamins, without that they ended with weaker bones and scurvy
Natives have words in their language that are are old Norse. I think they had a much larger impact than you suggested. More discoveries are waiting to be uncovered.. I seems there were larger settlements and influence especially further south where dogs only found in Denmark somehow made their way to South America. Also legends of red bearded white men ruling in South America looked at as gods coming on dragons (ships) to the land... caves with hundreds of runes carved into it in Bolivia..and the cloud people civilization that was a legend until they were found by the Spanish and later the remains by scientist . There is a lot of impact by the Norse it’s just covered up by big institutions like Smithsonian etc that have an agenda of erasing Europeans and their achievements to be PC
African Americans be like " We're the true Vikings, Ireland was black at one time. They seem to claim the whole world, Europe, China, Japan you can name any Country, they claim that as well.
Greenland was named by people in Iceland. They lived in a raiding culture and Norse would even raid each other at times. They wanted raiders to go to Greenland and by pass Iceland.
The sagas were written centuries after the fact. Just because the sagas say it was a bamboozle doesn't mean it actually was. It may very well be a retroactive folk etymology for the name Greenland.
@@fastertove I imagine Iceland must have been equally "green" in that same period, so maybe a bit of false promises? Would like to have seen pictures of it though, and also, would like to know how if trees even growed there at all. That's why they relied of Markland more and more. Lanse aux Meadows is just an outpost in Markland, not Vinland, Vinland is down the st. Lawrence river.
@@GhostInPajamas This is correct ! It was only to attract settlers ... It is true that the climate at that time was milder at the tip of Greenland, however , in two or three hundred years , it was gone... most, returning to Iceland.
Can you do the first filipino in america in 1587 when they came to america through spanish galleon trade (they help the conquistador because they were really skillful at sea and some boats were made by the ancient kingdoms in the philippines) the spanish conquistador use the ancient filipino warriors to talk to the natives because they were very similar looking and the natives welcome the filipinos very openly but when the spanish came out on their ships they were speared which killed 1 filipino and 1 spanish dude some of the filipinos escape the spanish dudes and settles with the natives and some settles by themselves.
We amerikand got 60,000+ temples land n sea... the phillipines pull up on me like the spanish... but they aint like them spanish i assume... we amerikans not citizen or from a baby nation of 2k awesome temple hidden from whiteman and 200in africa giza which he found already...
I once saw a genetic map of north American natives and there was a lot of north European DNA up through the st Lawrence River and the Great lakes. I also read an article about the similarities between the Mandan Sioux and the North European cultures.
In their day the Vikings conquered many lands, Russia, Jerusalem, Normandy, Britian but they generally adopted the local language and culture. One of the things to consider in the "what if" question is that the Vikings were not interested in spreading Norse culture.
data spell true there, the first arabic invasion was a Christian one. They killed our wifes and sons, set fire on our ”Holy” treeds and Told us we were sons of satan and dogs. I disslike christianity as much as islam. They sre from the same desert death religion. And people do not see that, how dum can people be
LOL the danes gave 0 fucks about stopping the spread of christianity but keep revising history to suit your beliefs atheist ideologue dimwit. @data spell
LOL the first arabic invasion>? you mean the first crusades are we just ignoring the entire ummayyad caliphate the invasion of hungary albania georgia and anatolia?? do we have to farther back because the first invasion of the middle east was by the greeks and they were made aggressive by both cyrus the great of persia and darius the third. its odd how you fucks always ignore anything prior to the invasion of manzikert and then play the victim. @@galenbjorn443
I appreciate my northern heritage , but I'm also native American and I will say if the northmen confronted the Toltec Aztec or Mayans , that would be a good match!!!!!
@GluttonousDragon there are white people who think Vikings were the first to discover America, a land inhabited by people. Is that not more crazy than thinking Vikings were black
NEW SUBSCRIBERS for it appears that you want to delve into the Norse in North America. They were here much earlier than 1000. The time period is between 100 - 800 ad. This is carved in stone. Language used was "Proto-Norwegian". Much of the Indian mounds were associated with the trade system established by the Norse men from the Gulf of Mexico to Canada and from the Grand Canon to the Appalachian mts. I have been studying this aspect of history for over 20 years. I am a retired college professor of Archeology and Ancient History.
*FUN FACT;* Age of the Vikings lastest less then 300 years from 793-1066CE. Either you're full of bull or you really don't know how to use the device in your hands and much rather go by your idiotic feelings as facts.
If that is the case how do you explain the existence of mound building cultures in both North and South America that predate your " time period is between 100 - 800 ad." by many centuries?
@@EdinburghFive Hello EdinburghFive, South American mound building is out of my area of study, thus I have no knowledge of those. As for the area covered by the expansive central portion of North America, there are two periods of mound building. One period of mound building is before 100 a.d.. A second period of mound building is after 100 a.d.. Those more ancient mounds were built for various reasons by folks of a much earlier period. Concerning the more modern mound building activity, 100 a.d. and later, it is seen that these mounds were constructed for the primary purpose of a "Trade Day" commercial reason. Is it possible to find a body buried in one of these mounds? Of course, someone could die tomorrow and be buried on a mound. A map of the central US can be laid out, and without leaving your home, it is possible to pinpoint the most logical places to look for a mound. By adding a USGS "Waterways" map, it becomes even simpler to detect mounds. Waterways were the highways of trade, before the horse & cart. The Missouri River, Mississippi River, and Illinois River converge at St Louis. Without a doubt, there will be several mounds to be located at and near this area. If a mound is in the way of modernized progress, the mound will be leveled. One such very large mound was in the way of a bridge, at St Louis, across the Mississippi River, so it was leveled. Fortunately the Cahokia Mounds were bypassed. These mounds are just East of the St Louis area. This was the largest city in the world by 1200 a.d. The mounds, across Central US, that were built after 100 a.d. were constructed as a gathering point for trade purposes. They are found on waterways. These are constucted to a height, necessary to be seen from a long distance. It is suggested that a bond fire atop the mound could serve as a directional beacon observed from a great distance in various directions. If a more ancient mound existed, there was no necessity to construct a new mound. The ancient mounds were repurposed. In some places, the natural lay of the land offered a convenient elevated area for the trading purposes. Jackson, Tennessee has just such a promontory that rises above the convergence of two waterways. It was used for the trade purposes without construction of a mound. The population of central North America was massive by 1200 a.d. This central portion population cratered by at least 1600. That is a different story.
Hi @Glen McCall Great to hear from you. What you write is all very interesting but it is a bit off point from your initial post. You stated with respect to the Norse "They were here much earlier than 1000." and further stated "Much of the Indian mounds were associated with the trade system established by the Norse men from the Gulf of Mexico to Canada and from the Grand Canon to the Appalachian mts." You are thus saying the rise of the Mississippian cultures came about due to the Norse. This seems to have the taint of the nineteenth-century white racist attitude that the Indigenous people of the region were not capable of creating such advanced cultures. In other words, it had to be people from elsewhere, usually defaulting to white Europeans. This also appears to give no credit to influence from the flourishing Central American cultures. Trade routes do not just bring goods, ideas also flow across the routes. With the trade routes for the Mississippian cultures ranging from Mexico to the Great Lakes and beyond there were vast resources to be tapped. Amongst the trade network and associated towns that arose, where are the Norse settlements and associated artifacts, the evidence of their European trade goods they would have used in exchange for the Indigenous goods, where are the Norse references and influences within the art of the Mississippian people, etc? Where is the evidence in Europe of trade goods coming from the New World in this earlier period you reference? It can be fun to think along such lines but to promote the idea of early and extensive Norse contact in the New World is a bit nonsensical. To even have a hope of putting forward such a theory there has to be some evidence. In this case there just isn’t any evidence whatsoever to support your contention.
@@EdinburghFive If I left the impression that the indigenous folks here did not have the know-how to construct a mound, then I fear that my great grandmother would come back to haunt me, definitely a shrewd Indian lady. I would seriously doubt that the Norse would dirty their hands, making a mound. Making suggestions, sure. Taking an already working trade system, making it bigger and better, sure. Making canoes, bigger and better, sure. Got go now, but I will offer a few more thoughts later.
I would make one observation. The Native Americans first discovered America. The Vikings did discover America before Columbus. The NAs should be considered explorers too. But this was a great video. The Vikings were a brave and industrious people and deserve more recognition in history. Thanks.
My people are The Anishinaabe and Cree. They fought off the Vikings when they tried landing in various areas around Hudson Bay coastline. They didn’t last longer than 6 months in the region due to constant fighting. They seen gold, obsidian, iron, and copper and they tried coming for it but subsequently failed due to poor communications between Vikings themselves. Three viking chieftains made peace with my peoples only for a brief period before more viking chieftains arrived for “support”. They tried doing a Normandy landing and tried pushing inland only to find 15,000 warriors consisting of nearby tribes & nations where then they were pushed backed out to the sea and never seen again.
@Smoking_Phat_Doobies they followed the northern passage way into the Hudson Bay leading into the arctic. But hey you didn’t know that I take it. And can you call us Cree and our names instead of adding Indian to it. It’s like calling an American an American-American. Get the picture. There is a lot of history about the Vikings that are not taught in the public. In indigenous history here in the North. They teach who they fought and why they fought. So keep trying to deny actual history. They got pushed off the continent.
@Smoking_Phat_Doobies sounds like you want to pick and choose history you shmuck. Sorry bud Vikings are aren’t that glorious as you seen. They were the true heathens.
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts keep being a racist towards people than you’ll get hit with bans. 🤣🤣 And no bitch. I didn’t do that so go point your scrawny fingers else where 🤣
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts umm here’s the thing. I’m not American nor am I a trump supporter. I just like the character. So I don’t really give a care about your opinion or what is going on in America. The world doesn’t revolve around America bud. So you can fuck off and take ya shit back down south.
I live in Newfoundland a.k.a. Vinland and the native people they met were most likely the Beothuk who had numbers in the thousands on the Island at their peak. Unfortunately we can never know for sure because the last of the Beothuk died in the 1800s after European settlers began to hunt them the Beothuk were known to have oral storytelling much like the Scandinavian Vikings and if only they had lived to tell these stories we could have some clarification on where these Vikings landed, but as far as the evidence shows I’m pretty sure they landed in Newfoundland
The reasons why the Vikings did not colonize North America in Vinland and stay there was the fault of one woman Freya leif's sister who in a rage killed a woman and her children for their colony which was deemable offense to be put to death therefore it put Leaf in a strange predicament because the law stated that if you killed a woman you were to be put to death and he would have had to put her to death and then be killed himself because he killed a woman therefore they went back saying that the people died on the voyage and they found nothing
The existance of a western continent was proposed since the Late Antiquity by hellenist geographers and mathematicians such as Erastothenes who calculted the circumference of the Earth using the different shadows of produced by sunlight at Cyrenaica and Alexandria. He then concluded that to maintain Earth's balance, other continents would be needed (that's why we see a supposed Antarctica in maps before it's discovery). This idea was somewhat known by medieval scholars and after the mentioning of a heathen attack in that document, it's most likely that by the time, they knew that there was something in that side of world. People didn't believe Columbus would fall in a abysm where the sea ended, they had two hypothesis, the most likely is that he would fail to get to the East because the sea would kill him before he did unless Asia was bigger than it seemed (the majority of the investors and Columbus himself were counting on that) or he would stumble upon the legendary and hypothetical western land. That's why his voyage was so daring in the first place.
Growing up in a region of Québec called the Eastern Townships, I recall a news paper article mentioning the discovery of a rock in a farmer's field with runic inscription on it. Would it be possible that the Vikings ventured in the area ?...
I don't think that Columbus was in competition with the Vikings. They landed on completely different ends of the country, and it wasn't even settled as one country at the time of either landing. As far as bringing Christianity to America... This is exactly what Columbus did. He brought missionaries who converted thousands of Indians to Christianity. Remember, Catholicism was the only Christianity when the Vikings came (who were also Catholic) as Protestantism didn't even exist at the time of Columbus or the Vikings. Know your history before making claims. Columbus was a great man who is being attacked today.
I wouldn't necessarily say he was a great man, but no need to attack the deceased. It show's how weak these Social Justice Warriors are, they are even attacking J.R.R. Tolkien. Hopefully his family don't pander to them. Vikings where pagan, by the way.
Columbus never set foot on the North American continent and was only once in South America ( probably in what is Venezuela today ) - most of his time in the region was spent on the islands of the Caribbean Sea.
They were no respect, only flying arrows. There were no ''battles'', mostly skirmishes, clashes, fights... Mi'kmaqs fought in small group of combatants and hiding ( why get killed in a rows , on a battlefield...better to hide behind a tree !! ) and also on water, in their canoes...
a month ago I got my results back from ancestry and I found out that I am from Norwegian descent I am very proud of my Viking heritage I am also Scottish and Finland and English and Irish what a great combination don't wonder why I'm like I am LOL...
Actually, from a geographical point of view, all settlements in Iceland on the west half of the island (split from the Reykjanes peninsula to the east-north tip) are in North America. The island is split by the rift between the North American plate and the Eurasian plate.
I think the problem with trying to find evidence of Norse settlement is that the obvious places to settle along the North American coastline were probably also occupied by later settlers so that the remnants are buried beneath subsequent layers of occupation.
A very good point! I hadn't considered that.
they already found the viking settlement of vinland....
Or accidently destroyed by early farmers who came to Canada centuries later.
that's a good point, l'anse aux meadows was already a town long before the settlement was discovered
that's also a reason why it has been very difficult to find early human remanants and old civilization, Jericó was a town that was just there as an old village but nothing special and then BOOM oldest city (known to the moment)
Level 1: Owning a farm (Mainland Europeans)
Level 10: Raiding a farm (Norse)
Level 100: Raiding the raiders who raided the farm (Inuit)
inuit are in greenland....and as far as i know never had a major conflict with the norse if im wrong feel free to correct me.
Inuit are also across northern Canada - Nunavut, Northern Québec, northern Labrador, and all the way across the Northwest Territories and into Yukon
www.rcaanc-cirnac.gc.ca/eng/1100100014187/1534785248701
@@maxmoore3204 and also alaska
Inuit never came into contact with Vikings who never went west enough to find them
@@dosran5786 I think they did I’m sure the Norse had mass skirmishes with Natives
Imagine if the Vikings were to have kept exploring more and more south until they reached mesoamerica and found civilizations like the maya
You usually find something that is lost.
@@xochiltepetzalailhuicamina2322Thanks for that historical hidden fact. Truly learn something new every single day, especially when it comes to the secret origins of world history.
im here for this fan-fic
The biggest issue that prevented the Vinland settlements from flourishing and surviving was a lack of people. There were already very few people living on Greenland and those were pretty much the only people the Vinland settlement could draw on. Unlike later European settlers they didn't have the backing/support of a centralised nation state and in the end there simply weren't enough of them to resist Native raids/aggression.
Probably did just didn't make it back to tell the tale
Hinga Dinga Durgen
Nice Spongebob reference
Happy Lief Erickson's day Patrick!
Hei Brodre
Bork bork bork
What does that mean?
One other thing that amazed me when I first learned of this is that the contact between the Norse and the Inuit likely marks the first time humans, who we believe evolved in North Africa, had made it all the way around the globe and met on the other side.
Not a big deal in the history of any one nation or region, but a landmark in the history of the species.
Humans migratated from the Russian/ Ukrainian steppes regions not Africa, that is a modern myth to encourage mass imigration and race mixing.
how would we have gone back to Africa and they were still chucking spears at each other if this was not the case.
Modern Europeans evolved in Europe. And we do not originate from Africa whatsoever. The proof in this is both our immediate physical and mental differences. But genetic proof lies in extensive Cromagnon and Neanderthal in our blood. Something which the Africans have 0 of.
humans are from africa and no amount of racist fantasies will be enough to ignore the mountains of evidence
offa of Angeln no substantial evidence of such, all of our ancestors were hominids who evolved in eastern africa, this doesn’t mean all humans ancestors are modern day africans, or that modern day africans created all other races, we all had the same ancestors and split off while theirs stayed in africa. stop taking incels who never left their moms basement /pol/ seriously
Inuits were evolved in Mongolian steppes
The Vikings were the first to land on Mars.
Nah the Nazis did though nobody wants to hear that
@@lesgrossman96 you're right, nobody does.
Johnny Thunder Home run, pal. 👍
What if... Mars was the original homeland of the vikings and Earth was the planet that got invaded 0o0 Makes sense, doesn't it? The planet itself is named after a god of war. Midgard, the 4th realm, is the realm of humans. Mars is 4th planet from the sun. It all makes sense.
*Bruh... aliens*
Johnny Thunder plot twist
The native Americans in Greenland actually migrated across the artic from Alaska
New evidence suggests people have been in North America before the last ice age.
@@davidm9214 - your statement that "people have been in North America before the last ice age" is clearly not the case. The last Ice Age started over one hundred thousand years ago. There is no evidence of human occupation of the Americas that comes anywhere near being that long ago.
@@EdinburghFive yes you are right, oldest evidence is about 33,000 years old and double what the last theory was.
Hey@90z I look forward to hearing about any credible evidence that there were people in North America prior to the last Ice Age.
@90z Rather odd statement on your part. My very point is there is no evidence of human occupation of North America prior to the last Ice Age. Your contention is there was human occupation of North America before the Ice Age, thus the onus is on you to support your position with evidence.
Vinland Saga made me study about Vikings.
same it’s weird vinlands a actual place but we never hear ab it
@@zaraiwzara lol okay
Same
Odd, that most of it takes place in Viking land. I get the feeling that it has nothing to do with Vinland.
Typical Japanese tripe.
I've read that leif erikson is basically the most reasonable guy in his insane bloodthirsty family, instantly after he tell the tale of this land his big bro take his ship and going there wishing to kill as much natives as possible(viking back then were basically Christian version of ISIS) let's say that he look like a porcupine after messing with the wrong tribe and get honored as the first European to get buried in American soil.
Christopher Colombus is the type of dude who steals your joke but says it louder and better
Sounds like Amy Schumer but the opposite by being still unfunny
One day I will get my revenge on Aaron Siegel. One day, one day
That assumes he knew the jokes of the person to begin with.
@@AudioArticuno and albert einstein
Sounds like Carlos Mencia, lol.
I read a great story about a Welsh king that made it to America and ended up mixing with the natives and became the Mandon Indians that had blue eyes and legends that sounded like they were the same people. I dont know it was probably pure fiction but it's a cool story
Remnants of this civilisation are found in the Ohio river valley
Of Wales
@@axelespinoza29 ?
Prince Madoc in 1170
Actually it's not fiction.
They found a viking coin near Bath Maine back in the 60s..... I've always believed they had a settlement there. It's a perfect harbor for ships even today, that's why the Navy has a base there..... love your channel
Valhalla Bound not a base but a contracted shipyard
@@Belenus3080 Is that what it is?
I saw a navy ship there when I was a kid. I guess it got stuck in my head it was a navy base.😂 thanks for the help my friend👍🏻
I was born in Bath Maine. The shipyard it Bath Iron Works. Navy destroyers are built there on the kennebec river. I was thinking about the coin they found. I believe it was a little further up the coast.
@@thenarrator869 Thank God - They Found it !
The coin is thought to be a hoax, planted at the archaeological site. Oddly, the archaeological records for the dig are few and do not support a finding of the coin.
First of all. I am half Mig'Maw (Native American from New Brunswick). We have our own runic writing system said to be brought by a priest, but the elders talk of it being the writing of our ancestors. We are all a little bit taller then the other aboriginal groups around us and even some ELDERS have blue and green eyes and it is said that we had some of these features before the French arrived. Even our beliefs system has some taboos that fit with Norse traditions. Just funny to say they may have gone to NB...No WE DID and mingled with the ones here and it made us...
@Troy Kell The Mi'kmaw were there looong before. They are not a European tribe. Possible mixing yes. But blue eyes is recessive and wouldn't express.
@Troy Kell Yes. And the blue eyes would come post colonization, not from the Vikings. There wasn't enough.
@Vercingetorix there's a lady in Africa with blue because of a eye condition " do not jump to conclusions "
If johnny's situation was because of viking somebody would have done the research because there's a reason the British where looking for a white tribe in Africa okay like even with bias being pro White scientist looking for lost white tribes oooooh found nothing and haven't found anything in 300 years still nothing nada.
Vikings?
British?
Hello, From Newfoundland, Canada! Probably due to my Irish heritage, I found out from ancestry dna test that I am 3% Norwegian :)
Så bra ;) hello from me.
Everybody Has Viking Roots - Thaks to Vinland !
Thanks that is !
@@VikingNorway-pb5tm829 hallo, hvordan er deg? Eg heter gunar gunarsonson.
@@stonedape2406 Hei hvordan er det med deg? Jo takk bare bra ;) så hyggelig at du lurte på det. Håper du har det bra :)
You are the man, Justin. Pretty common to listen to your docs all throughout the day. Thank you much for all of your uploads!
I like the thing you did with the fog of war on the map of the known world, to accentuate the fact that they were basically venturing into the unknown.
Norse exploration of North America is fascinating. I wish more sound evidence of their presence in what is now the U.S. would be discovered. Perhaps they actually did travel to the interior of America, but we need more concrete proof.
Imagine spending months in a small boat with a bunch of vikings. "Är vi framme snart? "
ett tjat till så vänder jag om båten
That's totally me.
I think it's important to note that Norse Greenland starts just after the Medieval Warm Period begins (950-ish), and starts its decline just after it ends (1300-ish, being finally abandoned 1408).
Other North American settlements follow similar dates, such as Cahokia for instance.
I live in Newfoundland, The island has a huge amount of wild blue berries which grow very big. Maybe these might be the grapes they thought they found.
You forgot to explain the devastating impact of the Little Ice Age on Viking colonization of North America ... the expansion ended in the 1300s
@@KaliBoyinPDX Like y'all weren't fighting each other all the time anyway. Plus, I bet you wouldn't give up medicine, anesthetic, media, cars... you know 95% of what is called modern that we brought with us. Oh well, hope the bitterness doesnt kill ya.
@@justinkennedy3004 Bruh the planet is dying due to western society. Wtf type crack are you on? Maybe its all the opiates your magical western medicine gives out to kids like candy. 1 in 4 kids in America are on some type of meds. When the world is burning you can thank europeans for that to. Ignorant ass genocide supporter
@@shuheihisagi6689 stop using the internet stop using electronic equipment and move out into the Woods and there you can sit and gnaw on a bone bruh
@@shuheihisagi6689 I work and support myself you lile shit. which country has it better and a more civilized society than the west. And do you think other parts of the world had done better if the tables was turned. You're just a spoiled shit. as one I know Said if you don't like it leave ooo i forgot to ask you if you are a part of Black and brown community😂 a person of color😂👌
@@shuheihisagi6689 damn you are really stupid
“You have no enemies”
It was a 2 day sail from Greenland. The vikings came to North America regularly for lumber and mining ore
from Greenland it would actually take the Vikings two to three weeks to sail no north America, I personally don't think that the Vikings found ore in America, I believe that the colony would be way more successful if they did, but I would really be exciting to see more research in the area, imagine if they found Norse DNA in the natives from that area
It doesn’t change history it only adds to it
It's actually very possible that Colombus read the books from the very Vikings them selfs, he was a sailer sense a very young age, and read everything that he could get his hands on. It's is said that he collected books from all over europ including Norway
You do realize that the Vikings did not speak or write Italian don't you? Not Spanish either. I doubt the Vikings could write at all. Only monks and priests could read and write. BTW there were no printing presses so books were all handwritten. Maybe think about some of these historical facts.
@@Peggyt-jp6mt Or Maybe that Columbus was Italian and knew many languages, before you comment study some history dumbass.
Well yeah the books where probably writhing in Latin just like the epics that lead to the discovery of the settlement in vinland, plus Columbus did speak multiple languages and is know to have very talented people on his crews that probably could also speak a multiple languages. Soo yea Im sure that my ideas are full of holes and are only conspiracy theories hahaha
@@Peggyt-jp6mt Vikings were literate in their own norse languages, which could be interpreted, dumbass. They literally wrote "Ulfbhert" on the Ulfbhert sword. They knew how to fuckin write
@@joelrivera4874 I thought the sagas were written in old norse and didn't leave Iceland in written form. That it would be translated into latin from there seems like a stretch tbh
.and of course not forgetting John Cabot who sailed from England in 1497 and was the first European since the norsemen, to set foot in mainland North America. He was the first to also make the return journey to Europe with news of his discovery.
So Columbus only get bronze?? What a cheat! I also hear the chinese made contact on the west coast of the USA with gigantic barges, btw.
Cult-umbus!
There is evidence of pollen showing that Concord grapes grew as far north as the Massachusetts / New Hampshire border, but there is no pollen evidencee that they grew any farther north than that. If they found grapes they had to reach at least the Gulf of Maine and Massachusetts Bay at least as far south as what is today Seavey Island between Maine and New Hampshire which is a short row from the Mass / NH border down the coast. There are many navigable rivers all along the New England coast. There is some scarse evidence that is disputed and reputed to be of Norse interaction. Recent discovery of a second settlement on Newfoundland Island on the southern tip proved that the viking settlement was producing and smelting iron locally for the first time in the Americas. No other group of people among the natives had this technology Only the Norse had it at this time and place in the Americas.
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Also they might of reached Minnesota.
@Jonathan Williams It was grapes.
Making the blanket statement that Native Americans had no technology is not correct. Corrupt historians have covered up the abilities of North American natives throughout early United States history. This was used to subjugate and control them. Parroting these lies is still happening today.
The inca’s all the way south in Peru also mentioned meeting big, white, red haired men.
I recommend to read vinland saga manga, its good. the anime adaptation starts juli 7th
Yeah, I was looking for this comment!!
Is it about vikings going to north america?
@@user-ok8yq6nc6x sorta
Magicjetsrock eventually
I once heard someone call the Greenland Colony unsuccessful because it disappeared. But I reminded them that the colony lasted about 500 years. The USA is about 200 years old
technically the colony did fail since it revolted and became independent
We should instead celebrate the first English and Germans who came to north America since we have been most successful
@NauticTL Wow I didn't know all of this!
The English, norse and Germans are close cousins, we are all Germanic people.
I hope you can find the amazing Viking research of the Norwegian author Kåre Prytz, and his incredibly interesting research into the Norse discovery of North America. His work is some of the best I've seen. There are so much evidence that points to the vikings having sailed further south - all the way to grand bahamas and the tip of Florida - I mean - why wouldn't they? They were very well used to travelling south to France and Spain and even Sicily and Constantinople and would know full well that there would be other resources to catch, warmer, more berries or whatever. Kåre Prytz compares all the known copies of norse maps, or maps based on norse tales, and the museums of Denmark and Iceland contain a vast archive of icelandic writings that have not yet been transcribed, translated and interpreted by modern historians - what Prytz did was compare many of the more unknown stories - or rather not so famous stories - and shown how Vikings landing all the way to southern united states is really very plausible. His main book is called "Lykkelige Vinland" in Norwegian (Happy Vinland - directly translated) and his second main book "Westward Before Columbus", is even available on amazon
Do you know anything about the Basques cod fishing off Newfoundland? There seems like there were ties to the Norse and to Columbus.
Solutreans?
No,Basques,they had been fishing cod off the grand banks before Columbus (they think), they might have been.It would make sense that fishermen would keep their grounds secret.
we will never know since we oly have records of them fishing there after the discovery of the Americas
@@theotterguy With the North Atlantic coasts subject to Northeaster storms, it makes sense to believe fishing boats would have been driven west. The forests were a source of supplies for repair of any ship.
@@PowersOfDarkness That may not actually be the case. There are records in the UK that seem to indicate fisherman sailing to Newfoundland decades prior to Columbus arriving in the Americas
Do something on the klinker built ships and how seaworthy they were. These ships gave the Scandinavians a real advantage over many others at that time and explains a lot about how they could be so successful. I think they are beautiful and deserve to be a topic on their own.
There is a anime series about this called vinland saga and is actually good
Read the manga and its still ongoing..
@@AbyssWatch3r there finally getting there
@@muffthekillerz6699 in think they are going to Germany first
Jc Almadrones they skipped the trip to greece
@@everygrillindude5317 Now time to go for vinland
It is sad but mostly the Vikings are remembered for their Warrior culture but they are so much more open trade routes discovered North America 500 years before Columbus and wonderful Craftsman shipbuilders and sailors the reason they ventured out was probably due to overpopulation and a very harsh climate so they wanted to discover new lands were there people could start a new life but make no mistake I have left unavailable Mark effect on history
We stil are, craftsman on boats osv.. ;)
In Norway the wildlings in GoT are subbed to Skræling
Tell us about your review on the historic anime Vinland Saga.
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts Who pissed in your cereal, dipshit? Why so mad? Anime or not, the Vinland saga is actually more historically accurate than “History” channels Vikings. Just take out the superhuman like strength some characters seem to have.
@@williamp2736 Village pilling scene were accurate. Vikings was more of hairstyle ad.
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts found the redditoid
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts The main character of the Vinland Saga is Thortinn Karlsefani which depicted the real life character, how about you go check that anime first and before saying obnoxious nonsense you psuedo-intelligent egotistical man child.
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts Hey youre alive! I thought youre dead but the characters in the anime were real even Canute the King of the Danish were real but some other plots of the anime werent even connected to real life but the manga artist did studied the Sagas of the Vikings, BUT did I mentioned them going to North America? I was talking about the characters and not the actual event.
It weird to think my people (Mi’kmaq/L’nu) may have met and potentially fought vikings
Maybe they met the vikings traded and had sex, why do we always assume ancient people are violent? Maybe you have some Viking DNA?
@@j.obrien4990My people are very Territorial, We have attacked Iroquois to force them out of the Maritimes.
@@Tanner2056 Yes but Miqmaks were allied with the Acadians and even before them they traded with the earlier Basque/French/Spanish fishing vessels. The Iroquois were probably perceived as a greater threat, whereas the first Europeans were a novelty or partners.
@@j.obrien4990 By the time of Acadians settlement most of my people had dies to diseases so we became less aggressive to outsider but that didn't stop all skirmishes
@@Tanner2056 - The Mi'kmaq were great traders. They saw an opportunity to acquire European goods which they could then trade to other tribes living farther south and west. If you are interested see if you can find a copy of 'Tarrentines and the Introduction of European Trade Goods in the Gulf of Maine' by Bruce J. Bourque and Ruth Holmes Whitehead
Vikings:"Here is some milk and cheese, natives."
(Natives get the hersey squirts)
Natives:"Poison! This means war!"
I mean, they didn't really have cows to get cow's milk, and so, may have been rather lactose intolerant
Chess-Playing Skeleton that's literally exactly what the video says
Vikings: "Here are two skrælings that lies unattended eating food consisting of raw bone and marrow. They must surely be "fredløse". Kill them!"
(Natives get the wind of this)
Natives: "WTF?? Don't they know we might be more than a few???"
OR:
The time they killed all but one who escaped and brought others? :D Fucking stupid to venture into a strange land flaunting hostile behaviour. I think the trade took over, though, and continued...
This is the basis of an alternate history I like to speculate on.
I think the Norse would likely worked out a deal with a local people who I believe were an Algonquin tribe. Vinland become a port for further Nordic trade Expedition into the st. Lawrence River. There wasn't much of a population pressure for Europeans to move at the time. The Algonquin and Ojibwa within the past 200 years had introduced to the three sisters (Corn, beans, Squad). I would imagine that they would introduce the vinlanders to them while being introduced to old world livestock ie cattle and horses in return. Most North America used the dog as a pack animal which is not as good for that as bovines or equines (horses and asses). Horses are known as tall dogs among some Plains people as it filled the same roles for the European. Contact with cattle would unknowingly give them a greater immunity to smallpox via exposure to cowpox.
I think within the first couple of decades you'd an epidemic spread across the Northeast trade routes likely killing 10-20% of the population of natives. However without Wars of the Conquistadors that brought famine and caused economic collapse , they're able to recover within a few decades from their first plague. Vinland which would have seen a decent influx of Norse Pagan immigrants wanting to avoid the church may start a campaign of exploration and expansion. If they have a decent relationship they may annex some neighboring lands either through marriage or vassalization kind of like the Aztecs. They would also made contact with the Mississippian culture inland.
I don’t know old Norse but I know vin means wine in Swedish
And norwegian
Vinland means land of grapes
And Norway and Denmark..
Is told vin means wine and still insists the idea that it means land of grapes. That's Intelligence for you today folks. Parroting conventional wisdom despite what they see.
It would be cool if you could do a video of Amerigos Vespucci. A lot of people doesn't even know who he is, and that the Americas were named after him. I believe that as much detail that you put into your videos, it would be a good idea. That's just my opinion.
Also there are descriptions in the sagas that describe areas that appear to be NY Harbor, Delaware Bay and the Eastern Shore maybe even more of the Chesapeake Bay as places of at least exploration.
I'm born and raised in Alaska and I can tell you that Inuit and Eskimo are different tribes
One of them fights Vikings on Iceland. Inuits?
Cape Breton, we have a site here with not just viking but almost all tribes in the area , most likely a trading post . We have storys of them also .
Who here
Often imagines
Himself as a Viking ?
APE X ME!!!! And I imagine Lagartha as my companion!!!! :)
I imagine my self as the Knight's Templar
The idea of sailing around, seeing new lands, going on adventures... It sounds so fun! :)
Sith Lord mostly..
Yeah it sounds fun not having proper supplies that maximizes the risk of dying. I hope one does not wish to return to such difficult times, but rather appreciate the hardships your ancestors went through.
Great video my friend. I remember writing an article on the Norse exploration and colonization of North America. Fascinating subject.
Do You still have ? It could be a SAGA in Europe !
Du er min favoritt historiker, og du lager veldig flotte videoer.
Takk
:)
Er han norsk??
Sigurd Riseth Nei han er Amerikaner.
Är han ens historiker då ? Är han inte bara en youtuber som lägger upp videor om historiska händelser.. ?
@@More_Row Jo jag tycker också att han är bra och gör intressanta videor. Var bara nyfiken på om han är en regelrätt historiker så att säga 👍🏻
VikingsRBloodyAwsome Skjønner! 👍
Most ppl in Iceland were Norwegians, plus all the famous ppl in the tales are Norwegians. U might wanna point that out, i nstead of coloring the map "Norse" as if it was a joint effort by all Norse ppl
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts True, but I was high and thought to myself I'm commenting just to vent, not to change the world 🌍✌️ so I didn't really care then and not now, but one thing I do care about is facts, at least when it's a subject I know well 😉
I saw a carving in Chichen Itza in the Yucatan (southern Mexico), of a tall bearded, long nosed Norseman, standing among a row of the locals (lot shorter, rounded headed and beardless), on the side of the "Ball Court" there . The tour guide sad there is more, but I didnt bother. Viking/Norsemen scouts had made it into the Caribbeans and southern Mexico (Yucatan) a long time before Cortes and the Spaniards
You’ll get there one day thorfin
It’s not pronounced Vinnland you have to drag out on the i like Viiinland
Hdkfsh Kskfe coming from someone with one vowel in their whole name I’m gonna take your word for it.
Vínland “Veenlaand”
Who's here after going to Vinland un AC Valhalla
I watched The Vinland Saga anime.
Not me
People, Vinland is newfoundland, Canada. That is the only place on the content with concrete evidence of a Viking civilization and the Beothuck (a long gone Indian tribe) perfectly match the tribe the Vikings interacted with.
Amazing information.! I love it.!
So cool I truly love this stuff. I have often wondered About how far south the Norris would have traveled. And then I realize they would have been very far south. They had good sea wreathe boats and were settled for years. Fishing and hunting along the cost could have taken them as far as Florida easily. That's why I think Vinland could have been far enough south for grapes to grow. like maybe the Hudson bay. Or the Chesapeake Bay. However I think the distance from their home country was the biggest reason for their failed colonization of North America. No way to have steady commerce with their homeland. Yet What a grand and hardy people they must of been. They had come so close. But operantly Their government was not organized well enough. And the need for the land was not strong enough for them to settle permanently.
The Scandinavians went all over North America. They went down the river systems as far a Minnesota and Oklahoma. There are signs of them all over North America. They just found a new settlement 300 miles south of L’Anse aux Meadows.
There is no real evidence of the Norse "all over north America". The "settlement 300 miles south of L’Anse aux Meadows" has proven not to be a settlement at all but a natural formation.
@@EdinburghFive I'm sorry you actually believe them.
@@SineMacula - Why would I not. The evidence is just not there to show its a Norse site. In fact there are no artifacts at all to point to an occupation of the site. Is it some kind of conspiracy to cover it up? To what end would that serve? If it truly was a Norse site this would be good news for the an economically deprived region. The site would generate tourism.
Didn't pronounce "Íslendingasögur" too bad, coming from an Icelander
They most likely found muscadine grapes. Which are native to North America. Perhaps paw paws as well. An overlooked fact is that the Vikings were in Greenland before the Inuits. And a bit of trivia. In the mid 15 hundreds, a ship from the Kingdom of Denmark (I think it was.), found a Norseman's body floating near Greenland. And before they found it, they were wondering if anyone of the previous colonies survived. The man's body was clad in a whale skin outfit, with a very corroded ancient dagger. They documented it. Kept the dagger, and gave him a Christian burial at sea. He also didn't seem to be dead very long. They wanted to follow up and explore to see if any of the colonies survived. But that was not their mission nor did they have time. So they survived a lot longer than previous thought. With the climate shift, they could grow no fodder for their livestock. And other crops would fail in the shorter and shorter growing seasons. No sheep or cattle after awhile. No more wood coming in either, nor the ability to build ships. They had to make their wooden handles for tools last. And no more iron ore being brought in. They had to resort to whaling and sealing for skin for clothing and meat for food. Fights with the Inuits over resources started as well. I suspect no one believes the long winters were going to last. That's why a sizeable number stayed. Due to icebergs, going back became impossible. It must have been a grim somber existence.
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts No!
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts You're completely wrong about everything. LOL! Just quit while you're ahead and stick to smoking the Ganja man. 😄😃😀😆😁😂
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts Go smoke your blunt and fry what's left of your hippy brain. LOL! 🤘😎👌
Hey Fiddleback - I believe it was an Icelandic crew who found the body. The body was found on a beach and was clothed in sealskin and homespun.
The last record from the Norse colonies was a marriage recorded in 1408.
@@EdinburghFive Nah.
Makes perfect sense that Norse would get really good at shipbuilding and resort to raiding and exploration (albeit somewhat by accident). They literally had a cold Scandinavian peninsula with virtually no arable land.
Love these videos! Awesome job!
Vikings also settled close to shore often....sea levels rise mixed with erosion and new settlements in the future and the rapid growth of the forest up here it would make it very hard to find anything
The Viking settlements were very high, not at the shore line.
The best example is Anse aux Meadows....Newfoudland, the Viking settlement.
It is high and they could see on both side of the ocean, the East and the West.
Also, could be defended a lot easier than at the sea level or shore.
I'm here due to Assassins creed Valhalla and Vinland mission
Good to know😂😂 barely made it to England
That's sad
@@j.jonahjameson5729 never really studied vikings a whole lot
@@j.jonahjameson5729 ok anime lover
One note for you mate, as a British-English speaking Dane who also speaks Old Norse, just because you're rolling your R's doesn't mean you're saying the names in Old Norse.. You're rolling your R's well - but still maintaining the American accent. If you're working on it then good job 👍 keep on going. But if you're not, exaggerate the vowels more and do a bit of research on the Viking alphabet and how to pronounce the letters.
For example when you mentioned Erik the Red's name in Old Norse at 3:58, - "Eríkr" - was perfect, but - "Rauði" - was pretty shite no offence. The letter, "ð" is the equivalent of a voiced "th" and the "i" is a stressed "ee". So it should sound like, "Rowthee-", rather than what you said, "Rowdeh".
Just giving you a heads up cause you seem to be trying to speak Old Norse 👍.
I doubt the mans speaking old Norse or non or his viewers would know what the fuck he is saying.
During the Medieval Climate Optimum Iceland and Greenland were both far warmer. Wine grapes were even grown in England during this period. Greenland probably was just poor grassland at best, the Norse supposedly raised sheep there until the mini-Ice Age made the Greenland colony unstainable.
it was not just losing grassland to ice which made it unsustainable
when they settled in greenland which had far more dangerous waters because of its temperature they began changing by relying more on the land and that meant they had less fish oil which was what gave them vitamins, without that they ended with weaker bones and scurvy
I want to go there! - Vikings.
Are you sure? Because they had slave trade and slavery was so bad, Vikings were inslaving eachother.
Natives have words in their language that are are old Norse. I think they had a much larger impact than you suggested. More discoveries are waiting to be uncovered.. I seems there were larger settlements and influence especially further south where dogs only found in Denmark somehow made their way to South America. Also legends of red bearded white men ruling in South America looked at as gods coming on dragons (ships) to the land... caves with hundreds of runes carved into it in Bolivia..and the cloud people civilization that was a legend until they were found by the Spanish and later the remains by scientist . There is a lot of impact by the Norse it’s just covered up by big institutions like Smithsonian etc that have an agenda of erasing Europeans and their achievements to be PC
This is funny. Thank you
Takk skal du ha!
bosto23 eyyy en norsk bror!
@@TheFyoshichannel eyyy!
ᛋᛋ 𝕭𝖔𝖊𝖗𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖗𝖘 ᛟ
This is an English video
@@meginna8354 My comment was more relevant to the video then yours.
African Americans be like " We're the true Vikings, Ireland was black at one time. They seem to claim the whole world, Europe, China, Japan you can name any Country, they claim that as well.
🤦🏾♂️ Your stupidity really does know no bounds, does it Renedrag Mazzaroth?
Greenland was named by people in Iceland. They lived in a raiding culture and Norse would even raid each other at times. They wanted raiders to go to Greenland and by pass Iceland.
The Greenland settlements were agricultural, resource exploitation based and lasted for more than three hundred years.
The sagas were written centuries after the fact. Just because the sagas say it was a bamboozle doesn't mean it actually was. It may very well be a retroactive folk etymology for the name Greenland.
You need to read “Collapse” by Jared Diamond to explain the downfall of European culture in Greenland due to the “the Little Ice Age”.
Agreed. A good book on the subject.
it was called greenland because of the aurora that would shine on the snow and make it appear all green
No. It's called Greenland because the northern part is and was green during summer.
I heard they called it Greenland to lure other cultures and traders to the settlement, even though it was very icy and sterile
@@fastertove I imagine Iceland must have been equally "green" in that same period, so maybe a bit of false promises? Would like to have seen pictures of it though, and also, would like to know how if trees even growed there at all. That's why they relied of Markland more and more. Lanse aux Meadows is just an outpost in Markland, not Vinland, Vinland is down the st. Lawrence river.
@@GhostInPajamas This is correct ! It was only to attract settlers ...
It is true that the climate at that time was milder
at the tip of Greenland,
however , in two or three hundred years , it was gone...
most, returning to Iceland.
Can you do the first filipino in america in 1587 when they came to america through spanish galleon trade (they help the conquistador because they were really skillful at sea and some boats were made by the ancient kingdoms in the philippines) the spanish conquistador use the ancient filipino warriors to talk to the natives because they were very similar looking and the natives welcome the filipinos very openly but when the spanish came out on their ships they were speared which killed 1 filipino and 1 spanish dude some of the filipinos escape the spanish dudes and settles with the natives and some settles by themselves.
We amerikand got 60,000+ temples land n sea... the phillipines pull up on me like the spanish... but they aint like them spanish i assume... we amerikans not citizen or from a baby nation of 2k awesome temple hidden from whiteman and 200in africa giza which he found already...
I couldn't be more proud to be Swedish.
Ja men snart e sommeren over å då begynner langrenn sesongen😉
kudos for being one of the few people not from here who can pronounce newfoundland properly instead of saying 'new finland'
I once saw a genetic map of north American natives and there was a lot of north European DNA up through the st Lawrence River and the Great lakes. I also read an article about the similarities between the Mandan Sioux and the North European cultures.
It has nothing to do with that, Norwegians migrated to America in the lates 1700’s or so, most of good land was already taken.
In Canada I learnt about Leif Erikson, but, my teacher indeed pronounce “Leif” as “Leaf” soooo..... that was interesting.
lol it's technically pronounced like a very short spoken "life"
@@omega1231 LOL me to .
I called him Eric the Leaf fan.
Thanks to TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS ?
In their day the Vikings conquered many lands, Russia, Jerusalem, Normandy, Britian but they generally adopted the local language and culture. One of the things to consider in the "what if" question is that the Vikings were not interested in spreading Norse culture.
I see you've includes the Normans there
data spell true there, the first arabic invasion was a Christian one. They killed our wifes and sons, set fire on our ”Holy” treeds and Told us we were sons of satan and dogs. I disslike christianity as much as islam. They sre from the same desert death religion. And people do not see that, how dum can people be
the vikings never conquered jerusalem genius unlless you are ntalking about the varangian guard but that was after the viking age.
LOL the danes gave 0 fucks about stopping the spread of christianity but keep revising history to suit your beliefs atheist ideologue dimwit. @data spell
LOL the first arabic invasion>? you mean the first crusades are we just ignoring the entire ummayyad caliphate the invasion of hungary albania georgia and anatolia?? do we have to farther back because the first invasion of the middle east was by the greeks and they were made aggressive by both cyrus the great of persia and darius the third. its odd how you fucks always ignore anything prior to the invasion of manzikert and then play the victim. @@galenbjorn443
I appreciate my northern heritage , but I'm also native American and I will say if the northmen confronted the Toltec Aztec or Mayans , that would be a good match!!!!!
Very good work
Takk skal du ha,
for making this video for us to watch
Jai ær från Nårrje. Kan ni fØrstå mig?
We wuz vikangz!
We wuz vikangs and shiieeet
@GluttonousDragon me or the other guy?
@GluttonousDragon there are white people who think Vikings were the first to discover America, a land inhabited by people. Is that not more crazy than thinking Vikings were black
@GluttonousDragon if speaking the truth is low IQ to you, what does that say about yourself
This comment got my fuckin weak 😂😂
Vinland Saga, i always wondered if they will ever reach it.
NEW SUBSCRIBERS for it appears that you want to delve into the Norse in North America.
They were here much earlier than 1000.
The time period is between 100 - 800 ad.
This is carved in stone.
Language used was "Proto-Norwegian".
Much of the Indian mounds were associated with the trade system established by the Norse men from the Gulf of Mexico to Canada and from the Grand Canon to the Appalachian mts.
I have been studying this aspect of history for over 20 years.
I am a retired college professor of Archeology and Ancient History.
*FUN FACT;* Age of the Vikings lastest less then 300 years from 793-1066CE. Either you're full of bull or you really don't know how to use the device in your hands and much rather go by your idiotic feelings as facts.
If that is the case how do you explain the existence of mound building cultures in both North and South America that predate your " time period is between 100 - 800 ad." by many centuries?
@@EdinburghFive
Hello EdinburghFive,
South American mound building is out of my area of study, thus I have no knowledge of those.
As for the area covered by the expansive central portion of North America, there are two periods of mound building.
One period of mound building is before 100 a.d..
A second period of mound building is after 100 a.d..
Those more ancient mounds were built for various reasons by folks of a much earlier period.
Concerning the more modern mound building activity, 100 a.d. and later, it is seen that these mounds were constructed for the primary purpose of a "Trade Day" commercial reason.
Is it possible to find a body buried in one of these mounds? Of course, someone could die tomorrow and be buried on a mound.
A map of the central US can be laid out, and without leaving your home, it is possible to pinpoint the most logical places to look for a mound. By adding a USGS "Waterways" map, it becomes even simpler to detect mounds. Waterways were the highways of trade, before the horse & cart.
The Missouri River, Mississippi River, and Illinois River converge at St Louis. Without a doubt, there will be several mounds to be located at and near this area. If a mound is in the way of modernized progress, the mound will be leveled. One such very large mound was in the way of a bridge, at St Louis, across the Mississippi River, so it was leveled. Fortunately the Cahokia Mounds were bypassed. These mounds are just East of the St Louis area. This was the largest city in the world by 1200 a.d.
The mounds, across Central US, that were built after 100 a.d. were constructed as a gathering point for trade purposes. They are found on waterways. These are constucted to a height, necessary to be seen from a long distance. It is suggested that a bond fire atop the mound could serve as a directional beacon observed from a great distance in various directions.
If a more ancient mound existed, there was no necessity to construct a new mound.
The ancient mounds were repurposed.
In some places, the natural lay of the land offered a convenient elevated area for the trading purposes. Jackson, Tennessee has just such a promontory that rises above the convergence of two waterways. It was used for the trade purposes without construction of a mound.
The population of central North America was massive by 1200 a.d.
This central portion population cratered by at least 1600. That is a different story.
Hi @Glen McCall Great to hear from you.
What you write is all very interesting but it is a bit off point from your initial post.
You stated with respect to the Norse "They were here much earlier than 1000." and further stated "Much of the Indian mounds were associated with the trade system established by the Norse men from the Gulf of Mexico to Canada and from the Grand Canon to the Appalachian mts." You are thus saying the rise of the Mississippian cultures came about due to the Norse.
This seems to have the taint of the nineteenth-century white racist attitude that the Indigenous people of the region were not capable of creating such advanced cultures. In other words, it had to be people from elsewhere, usually defaulting to white Europeans. This also appears to give no credit to influence from the flourishing Central American cultures. Trade routes do not just bring goods, ideas also flow across the routes.
With the trade routes for the Mississippian cultures ranging from Mexico to the Great Lakes and beyond there were vast resources to be tapped. Amongst the trade network and associated towns that arose, where are the Norse settlements and associated artifacts, the evidence of their European trade goods they would have used in exchange for the Indigenous goods, where are the Norse references and influences within the art of the Mississippian people, etc? Where is the evidence in Europe of trade goods coming from the New World in this earlier period you reference?
It can be fun to think along such lines but to promote the idea of early and extensive Norse contact in the New World is a bit nonsensical. To even have a hope of putting forward such a theory there has to be some evidence. In this case there just isn’t any evidence whatsoever to support your contention.
@@EdinburghFive
If I left the impression that the indigenous folks here did not have the know-how to construct a mound, then I fear that my great grandmother would come back to haunt me, definitely a shrewd Indian lady.
I would seriously doubt that the Norse would dirty their hands, making a mound.
Making suggestions, sure.
Taking an already working trade system, making it bigger and better, sure.
Making canoes, bigger and better, sure.
Got go now, but I will offer a few more thoughts later.
I would make one observation. The Native Americans first discovered America. The Vikings did discover America before Columbus. The NAs should be considered explorers too. But this was a great video. The Vikings were a brave and industrious people and deserve more recognition in history. Thanks.
This just in...Native Americans are human beings. They discovered the Americas.
i discovered a chinese restaurant downtown
discovery is based on perspective
Christopher Columbus is the type of dude that steals your joke, but says it louder and better.
Say it louder though Chris. LOL
@@achillesmann1773 cheers buddy, at least somebody got the joke. All my love.
Just like you stole that comment
@@parceni4098 I know, that was the joke
Just louder. And now it's just an embarrassing echo.
My people are The Anishinaabe and Cree. They fought off the Vikings when they tried landing in various areas around Hudson Bay coastline. They didn’t last longer than 6 months in the region due to constant fighting. They seen gold, obsidian, iron, and copper and they tried coming for it but subsequently failed due to poor communications between Vikings themselves. Three viking chieftains made peace with my peoples only for a brief period before more viking chieftains arrived for “support”. They tried doing a Normandy landing and tried pushing inland only to find 15,000 warriors consisting of nearby tribes & nations where then they were pushed backed out to the sea and never seen again.
@Smoking_Phat_Doobies they followed the northern passage way into the Hudson Bay leading into the arctic. But hey you didn’t know that I take it.
And can you call us Cree and our names instead of adding Indian to it. It’s like calling an American an American-American. Get the picture.
There is a lot of history about the Vikings that are not taught in the public. In indigenous history here in the North. They teach who they fought and why they fought. So keep trying to deny actual history. They got pushed off the continent.
@Smoking_Phat_Doobies sounds like you want to pick and choose history you shmuck.
Sorry bud Vikings are aren’t that glorious as you seen. They were the true heathens.
@Smoking_Phat_Doobies Ojibwa is anishinaabe.
Ojibwa was a slur used against the anishinaabe now natives called themselves Ojibwe...
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts keep being a racist towards people than you’ll get hit with bans. 🤣🤣
And no bitch. I didn’t do that so go point your scrawny fingers else where 🤣
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts umm here’s the thing. I’m not American nor am I a trump supporter. I just like the character. So I don’t really give a care about your opinion or what is going on in America.
The world doesn’t revolve around America bud. So you can fuck off and take ya shit back down south.
But no, seriously. Great video, well researched. You bomb.
I live in Newfoundland a.k.a. Vinland and the native people they met were most likely the Beothuk who had numbers in the thousands on the Island at their peak. Unfortunately we can never know for sure because the last of the Beothuk died in the 1800s after European settlers began to hunt them the Beothuk were known to have oral storytelling much like the Scandinavian Vikings and if only they had lived to tell these stories we could have some clarification on where these Vikings landed, but as far as the evidence shows I’m pretty sure they landed in Newfoundland
In Newfoundland the Norse could have met the Beothuk or Innu.
The reasons why the Vikings did not colonize North America in Vinland and stay there was the fault of one woman Freya leif's sister who in a rage killed a woman and her children for their colony which was deemable offense to be put to death therefore it put Leaf in a strange predicament because the law stated that if you killed a woman you were to be put to death and he would have had to put her to death and then be killed himself because he killed a woman therefore they went back saying that the people died on the voyage and they found nothing
Wtf?
The existance of a western continent was proposed since the Late Antiquity by hellenist geographers and mathematicians such as Erastothenes who calculted the circumference of the Earth using the different shadows of produced by sunlight at Cyrenaica and Alexandria. He then concluded that to maintain Earth's balance, other continents would be needed (that's why we see a supposed Antarctica in maps before it's discovery). This idea was somewhat known by medieval scholars and after the mentioning of a heathen attack in that document, it's most likely that by the time, they knew that there was something in that side of world. People didn't believe Columbus would fall in a abysm where the sea ended, they had two hypothesis, the most likely is that he would fail to get to the East because the sea would kill him before he did unless Asia was bigger than it seemed (the majority of the investors and Columbus himself were counting on that) or he would stumble upon the legendary and hypothetical western land. That's why his voyage was so daring in the first place.
@raspoutin they suggested that there might be a continent, not that they knew of the one that was there
@raspoutin does it matter? even so the greeks havent shown any real proof they knew about america
I bet you’ll blow up. This things are what TH-cam’s missing
I hope so, thank you!
Really fascinating part of history
Growing up in a region of Québec called the Eastern Townships, I recall a news paper article mentioning the discovery of a rock in a farmer's field with runic inscription on it. Would it be possible that the Vikings ventured in the area ?...
I don't think that Columbus was in competition with the Vikings. They landed on completely different ends of the country, and it wasn't even settled as one country at the time of either landing. As far as bringing Christianity to America... This is exactly what Columbus did. He brought missionaries who converted thousands of Indians to Christianity. Remember, Catholicism was the only Christianity when the Vikings came (who were also Catholic) as Protestantism didn't even exist at the time of Columbus or the Vikings. Know your history before making claims. Columbus was a great man who is being attacked today.
I wouldn't necessarily say he was a great man, but no need to attack the deceased. It show's how weak these Social Justice Warriors are, they are even attacking J.R.R. Tolkien. Hopefully his family don't pander to them. Vikings where pagan, by the way.
they also landed centuries before that italian grease ball
a great man he fled war in his nation conned the queen of spain and is only famous because he got lucky.......how was he great hahahahah
@@dosran5786 We already knew that.
Columbus never set foot on the North American continent and was only once in South America ( probably in what is Venezuela today ) - most of his time in the region was spent on the islands of the Caribbean Sea.
Natives and Vikings respected each other when they met in battle
They were no respect, only flying arrows.
There were no ''battles'',
mostly skirmishes, clashes, fights...
Mi'kmaqs fought in small group of combatants and hiding
( why get killed in a rows , on a battlefield...better to hide behind a tree !! )
and also on water, in their canoes...
a month ago I got my results back from ancestry and I found out that I am from Norwegian descent I am very proud of my Viking heritage I am also Scottish and Finland and English and Irish what a great combination don't wonder why I'm like I am LOL...
Quite the interesting saga
Actually, from a geographical point of view, all settlements in Iceland on the west half of the island (split from the Reykjanes peninsula to the east-north tip) are in North America. The island is split by the rift between the North American plate and the Eurasian plate.
@Smoking_Phat_Blunts - 'proofread' not 'proof-read'